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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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im sorry for the last question, i dont read all. Well my doubt now is, there are swap limits. you will burn the not swapped coins?
For the rest of your answer... blablabla.... nothing more, you want control the coin, not help people. We are doing thing as you want, not comunity want, at least not all as i told post before. And no i dont leave because im part of this like you.
PS: one thing to clarify. Is simple, if you are swapping only 40% you are stolen the rest.
that is your problem - you just didn't read all ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) yes, we will burn not swapped coins. yep, i'm the villain, i want to control free coins, i'm eager for your money, MWAHAHAHA read again my previous post where i explain how these 3 votes we did estimate and establish things you thought are not voted at all. You are troll, right? If we're swapping 7.74 out of 10, giving away another 10M via in-wallet faucet, and holding 2.26M in escrow for bounties - where do you see stolen 60%? So by this logic if you download yourself new coin wallet and start getting new free coins via faucet - you are stealing them from old FindYou coin holders? *triple facepalm with my feet*
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December 24, 2014, 10:19:29 AM |
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It's simple for me. I own 110k findyoucoins. They are worthless now. If i change this coins for the new findcoin, mabey i can make a small profit, otherwise i lose nothing.
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December 24, 2014, 10:20:18 AM |
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I'd prefer FIND to die ,rather than controlled by a handful of persons and fool the community,though I have 50K Find or so
ok, with such high standarts you have, consider it's dead for you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) because there will be endless questions trying to prove we are scheming here, trying to create scam coin. i'd rather wish such guys farewell than waste my time on explaining myself. i think i told enough in old FindYou thread and in this thread for anyone who wants to make such hard decision - to get or not to get these free coins. i rest my case now and will ignore any questions for things that have been already discussed here.
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December 24, 2014, 10:22:31 AM |
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Will FindCoin have a pure Linux wallet at launch? When I say pure, I mean one that will run on any Linux distro, such as Centos 7, as opposed to one that will only run on Ubuntu. If you launch with a Linux wallet, I'm in, otherwise, I'm out. I haven't run Windows in years, and I have no plans of going back. I haven't been able to run any wallets in Wine on Centos 7, so I now only invest in coins that maintain Linux wallets (Bitcoin, Litecoin, NuBits/NuShares, Darkcoin etc.). Thank you in advance ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . sorry for delay with answer. we're working on it. we have Ubuntu build now that works 100%, e1ghtSpace and Quadmium are working on compiling working build for other Linux OS.
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December 24, 2014, 10:26:44 AM |
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+1 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Decentralized coin should not be controlled by certain person. ok, decentralised coin should compile itself, pay for node vps itself, premine itself and start in-wallet faucet by itself, right? If you don't trust us - please, please, please just stay with old FindYou coins, since it's way more honest coin with more responsible dev, and forget about us. Please.
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December 24, 2014, 10:28:41 AM |
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I'd prefer FIND to die ,rather than controlled by a handful of persons and fool the community,though I have 50K Find or so
+1000 @littlefaucet @wopin just send your findyoucoins here FVLSNFpyhcRuDAkmHCBJehVowJj3QbzU7B and you will achieve two goals: - you can consider find dead since then - you wil have a new friend here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) be cool hopenotlate
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December 24, 2014, 10:29:10 AM |
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It's simple for me. I own 110k findyoucoins. They are worthless now. If i change this coins for the new findcoin, mabey i can make a small profit, otherwise i lose nothing.
yep, at least consider that, guys...
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December 24, 2014, 11:16:36 AM |
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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A. OK B. Nobody votes for 10 M faucet. if for oldcoins faucet, left to distribute 22.6M, and reduce /4 market cap, the real faucet must be 5.65M. When all people swap coins, will get less coins for faucet increase. a Math Fact. C. Where is the vote for this?? link please. you supose a lot of things. where is the facts?? D. We must to do this with a votation. because you impose it. NOT VOTED. You are imposing an unfair swapping, /10 instead of /4. You are imposing a bounty that people dont vote. When you swap the coins, you will use coins for bounty and developers. I dont want that. Please Votation E. The rest of the text is smoke. You want to be important. And dont be angry. Im just thinking in all people who have old coins. like you i think.
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December 24, 2014, 11:27:57 AM |
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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A. OK B. Nobody votes for 10 M faucet. if for oldcoins faucet, left to distribute 22.6M, and reduce /4 market cap, the real faucet must be 5.65M. When all people swap coins, will get less coins for faucet increase. a Math Fact. C. Where is the vote for this?? link please. you supose a lot of things. where is the facts?? D. We must to do this with a votation. because you impose it. NOT VOTED. You are imposing an unfair swapping, /10 instead of /4. You are imposing a bounty that people dont vote. When you swap the coins, you will use coins for bounty and developers. I dont want that. Please Votation E. The rest of the text is smoke. You want to be important. And dont be angry. Im just thinking in all people who have old coins. like you i think. So you want a /4 swap? So now all of the new people will need to buy the coins off the holders. Great idea! This is so decentralised! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) When we were voting we allowed people to suggest other specs. You didn't. So don't complain that you missed it.
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December 24, 2014, 11:30:30 AM |
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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A. OK B. Nobody votes for 10 M faucet. if for oldcoins faucet, left to distribute 22.6M, and reduce /4 market cap, the real faucet must be 5.65M. When all people swap coins, will get less coins for faucet increase. a Math Fact. C. Where is the vote for this?? link please. you supose a lot of things. where is the facts?? D. We must to do this with a votation. because you impose it. NOT VOTED. You are imposing an unfair swapping, /10 instead of /4. You are imposing a bounty that people dont vote. When you swap the coins, you will use coins for bounty and developers. I dont want that. Please Votation E. The rest of the text is smoke. You want to be important. And dont be angry. Im just thinking in all people who have old coins. like you i think. So you want a /4 swap? So now all of the new people will need to buy the coins off the holders. Great idea! This is so decentralised! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Decentralised is like you do. Reduce market cap to /4 but swapping /10 to people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A. OK B. Nobody votes for 10 M faucet. if for oldcoins faucet, left to distribute 22.6M, and reduce /4 market cap, the real faucet must be 5.65M. When all people swap coins, will get less coins for faucet increase. a Math Fact. C. Where is the vote for this?? link please. you supose a lot of things. where is the facts?? D. We must to do this with a votation. because you impose it. NOT VOTED. You are imposing an unfair swapping, /10 instead of /4. You are imposing a bounty that people dont vote. When you swap the coins, you will use coins for bounty and developers. I dont want that. Please Votation E. The rest of the text is smoke. You want to be important. And dont be angry. Im just thinking in all people who have old coins. like you i think. So you want a /4 swap? So now all of the new people will need to buy the coins off the holders. Great idea! This is so decentralised! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Decentralised is like you do. Reduce market cap to /4 but swapping /10 to people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) When we were voting we allowed people to suggest other specs. You didn't. So don't complain that you missed it. Can you please explain exactly what you want to see as the specs for this coin? I want to see.
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
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POS 1% to 25% --> VOTED Initial Supply 100M to 22M --> VOTED 10M FIND will be distributed via faucet --> NOT VOTED - if X millions left to deliver via faucet, this is what should be, of course reduced like market cap reduction percentage. Swap old coins to new coins for /10 --> NOT VOTED 7.74M FIND will be swapped with existing FindYouCoin holders --> NOT VOTED - the market cap only reduces /4 times but you want to swap coin /10?? thats not fair for the people who believes in the coin at the beginning, using the first faucet. You will only swap the 40%, the rest will be for things that comunity dont voted, like faucet or bounties and development.... 2.26M FIND will be used for bounties and development --> NOT VOTED - I dont know why the developer will get to 2 million coins, that supose 10% of total market cap, coins that you remove from people. This coin uses a faucet distribution. A fair distribution. With this, you broke the fair distribution that begins with old coin. Donations would be better, isnt a problem. As i say, you wil remove coins from people to do this things that nobody voted. Thas unfair. But is unfair because you are broken the faucet distribution. And thats is why i think, if we cant vote this things, this probably will be a relaunch scam. Simple Maths. PS: When i refer "you" i want to refer to developers or relaunch bosses. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Where did you get these numbers? A. We've voted on 20M cap, not 22M B. 10M distro via faucet - think a little. Read again voting thread. We did three votes. 1) 20M cap / 40k per hour distribution; 2) 25% Pos; 3) 10 days (40k per hour) time of distribution. Count it. 3rd vote = 10 days x 24 hours x 40k = how much? VOTEDC. Let's continue our math lessons ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If we are voted on 10M faucet and 20M total, how much for exchange left? VOTEDD. I agree with you, we didn't vote for exact exchange rate, but considering voted decisions we've made, we have 20M total - 10M for faucet = 10M for exchange and, thus, rates spread from zero to 10:1. So we've picked the highest rate possible - 10:1. Now, we all know how much FindYou coins were distributed - 77.4M. Other 22.6M stuck in faucet forever. That's 7.74M new coins for exchange for 1:10. 10M - 7.74M = 2.26M for bounties. We could use 10M coins left out of faucet to exchange for 77.4M old coins - but that's 7.74:1 exchange rate and no coins for bounties. I personally don't want to use such not round rates because it will eventually lead to errors and it's harder to count in mind. So - please pay more attention with what is happening with FindCoin - and use your math skills and logic a bit.Hmm... To count a little more - to recount my salary on per minute basis, it's like around $1.14 per working hours minute. And it took me 15 completely wasted minutes to write this answer, explaining things that don't need explanation. I'm thinking to start billing you guys for such questions Wopin, you owe me $17 now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let's here more questions from you ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A. OK B. Nobody votes for 10 M faucet. if for oldcoins faucet, left to distribute 22.6M, and reduce /4 market cap, the real faucet must be 5.65M. When all people swap coins, will get less coins for faucet increase. a Math Fact. C. Where is the vote for this?? link please. you supose a lot of things. where is the facts?? D. We must to do this with a votation. because you impose it. NOT VOTED. You are imposing an unfair swapping, /10 instead of /4. You are imposing a bounty that people dont vote. When you swap the coins, you will use coins for bounty and developers. I dont want that. Please Votation E. The rest of the text is smoke. You want to be important. And dont be angry. Im just thinking in all people who have old coins. like you i think. So you want a /4 swap? So now all of the new people will need to buy the coins off the holders. Great idea! This is so decentralised! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Decentralised is like you do. Reduce market cap to /4 but swapping /10 to people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) When we were voting we allowed people to suggest other specs. You didn't. So don't complain that you missed it. Can you please explain exactly what you want to see as the specs for this coin? I want to see. I voted for a reduction of market cap. For a sustantial thing, get more value to the coin for the purpose to find scammers. And the expanded faucet is not for that. And the bounty?? the same, only for developers.
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December 24, 2014, 11:46:55 AM |
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
Im sorry you are doing a relaunch. that not new, same algo, faucet distribution... you are doing a relaunch for a copy of miraclecoin.
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December 24, 2014, 11:49:12 AM |
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
Im sorry you are doing a relaunch. that not new, same algo, faucet distribution... you are doing a relaunch for a copy of miraclecoin. I would rather do that. I'm going to leave the conversation now.
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December 24, 2014, 11:55:34 AM |
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
Im sorry you are doing a relaunch. that not new, same algo, faucet distribution... you are doing a relaunch for a copy of miraclecoin. I would rather do that. I'm going to leave the conversation now. Of course, for your own benefit. 10% of coins for developers.
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December 24, 2014, 12:02:12 PM |
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
Im sorry you are doing a relaunch. that not new, same algo, faucet distribution... you are doing a relaunch for a copy of miraclecoin. I would rather do that. I'm going to leave the conversation now. Of course, for your own benefit. 10% of coins for developers. Where does it say such thing? I'm probably never going to receive anything.
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December 24, 2014, 12:22:08 PM |
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is it possible to download the wallet before the distribution starts?
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December 24, 2014, 12:25:42 PM |
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Ok here are some facts. This coin isn't made to recoup the losses people have faced from FindYouCoin. It is an entirely new coin. This coin wasn't made to be an upgrade of FindYouCoin. It is a DIFFERENT coin. So if you are saying it is unfair that we aren't giving you the exact same ratio of findyoucoins then you obviously are wondering how we are going to give away coins from our faucet. That's exactly what I'm wondering about your expectations. You should be glad that we are letting you exchange your coins. Not angry that you aren't getting more.
Im sorry you are doing a relaunch. that not new, same algo, faucet distribution... you are doing a relaunch for a copy of miraclecoin. I would rather do that. I'm going to leave the conversation now. Of course, for your own benefit. 10% of coins for developers. at first you were saying we stealing 60%, now 10%, what number is next? and considering bounties - you don't want FindCoin bounties at all, because you think we will "steal" them, right? even if we put it to 3rd party escrow? here's another point you didn't think about - our another great FindCoin scam. we are holding 7.74M coins for exchange and 2.26M coins for bounties, so we'll earn 25% PoS on this 10M FOR DOING NOTHING MWAAHAHA the only problem with this theory is that we - devs - turned off staking in our wallets for coin exchange period. So when you all guys will be having your 25% PoS returns on free faucet coins - there will be no PoS for us. Not on exchanged coins, not on faucet coins. Zero interest.
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