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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
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irritant
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December 14, 2012, 12:04:14 PM |
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so now everybody hates ASICMINER? where did this come from... just because some think they are building centralized farm? IIRC they want to sell the hardware later..
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December 14, 2012, 12:18:18 PM |
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My guess is it is because people are starting to doubt BFL ever delivering.
The 50TH farm ASICMINER wants to set up will be deployed over a period of months. Back in the day when this project was started up BFL had already sold 100's of TH in pre-orders with a promise to deliver in October 2012 as they had "learned from their mistakes". ASICMINER and its 50TH farm would have never been a problem if BFL had delivered.
Now people are seeing it as a threat as 50TH would be enough to take over the block chain should BFL fail to produce a single working chip.
But it would not be in the interest of the shareholders if ASICMINER became a threat to Bitcoin as the value of BTC would plummet.
Should BFL go bust then I think it is in everyone's interest if ASICMINER changed it's business plan to make sure everyone understand and sees it is not a threat to anything or anyone.
As it stands at the moment, ASICMINER will be the first ASIC around and small enough to NOT be a threat to Bitcoin. Doe sit suck for people that invested heavily with BFL, of course it does.... but does that mean that ASICMINER is a threat? NO !
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December 14, 2012, 01:15:06 PM |
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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
Look at the entire changelog. He removed ASICMINER completely from the wiki.
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December 15, 2012, 01:13:55 AM Last edit: December 15, 2012, 01:44:35 AM by gmaxwell |
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gmaxwell has on a number of occasions edited my posts for no reason, and on a few occasions deleted my posts coz Luke-Jr asked him to - with no basis to actually delete them other than lies from Luke-Jr I'm not sure why you would wonder about what gmaxwell does. He's Luke-Jr's lapdog of course.
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December 15, 2012, 11:54:25 AM |
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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
Look at the entire changelog. He removed ASICMINER completely from the wiki. As I already said, I agree with luke-jr that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't belong on that page.
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December 15, 2012, 03:20:13 PM |
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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
Look at the entire changelog. He removed ASICMINER completely from the wiki. As I already said, I agree with luke-jr that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't belong on that page. Technically, if he removes ASICMINER from vendors he has to add them to contractors... Due to the relationship between planned shareholder dividends and mining profits...
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December 15, 2012, 11:15:42 PM |
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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
Look at the entire changelog. He removed ASICMINER completely from the wiki. As I already said, I agree with luke-jr that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't belong on that page. okay, so, can you tell me, what company is actually offering ASICS right now? (pre-orders with multiple delays dont count) so just remove the complete ASIC section of the hardware comparison wiki... it doesnt really exist
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December 15, 2012, 11:44:30 PM |
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DiabloD3, as much as I dislike BFL, luke-jr actually postponed their shipping date from dec 2012 to jan 2013. He quoted ngazhang with Avalons shipping date. And I agree with him that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't go on to that page.
I suggest you wear your mod-hat with ice inside it, as you must remain objective when moderating. Calling luke-jr a BFL shill in a pinned topic is a bit harsh, and just shows poor judgement as everyone know how much you loathe BFL.
Look at the entire changelog. He removed ASICMINER completely from the wiki. As I already said, I agree with luke-jr that as long as ASICMiner is not offering any consumer-products, it doesn't belong on that page. okay, so, can you tell me, what company is actually offering ASICS right now? (pre-orders with multiple delays dont count) It makes sense for the wiki to document upcoming consumer products.
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December 16, 2012, 10:46:04 PM |
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so now everybody hates ASICMINER? where did this come from... just because some think they are building centralized farm? IIRC they want to sell the hardware later..
I don't really think that's the case. People are trying to make profits, and thats why they purchase a ASIC. Whoever seems to be first, or have an idea that might take their profit vanish (or lot less profitable) will be their enemy's. Earlier it was BFL when they announced (** oh no, can't be true, scam scam), then it became bASIC (after BFL postponed), then people turned over to Avalon, and now it's ASICMINER. I think that's how people reason, unfortunately human kind are sons of bitches every one in a while .
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December 28, 2012, 02:13:43 AM Last edit: December 28, 2012, 09:59:35 AM by friedcat |
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UpdateAfter a long and anxious waiting, we have finally got our packaged chip samples at hand. Everyone would be busy in the following 2-3 weeks. The following pics are taken from my cellphone. 30GHash/s of computing power on one table: Top and bottom side of the chips: A closer look at our baby:
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DiabloD3
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December 28, 2012, 02:18:57 AM |
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Update
After a long and anxious waiting, we have finally got our packaged chip samples at hand. Everyone would be busy in the following 2-3 weeks.
The following pics are taken from my cellphone.
I came.
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December 28, 2012, 02:35:09 AM Last edit: December 28, 2012, 02:53:16 AM by Transisto |
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30ghs with 120 chips ? What's the hash-rate of single chips ?
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December 28, 2012, 03:08:07 AM |
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30ghs with 120 chips ? What's the hash-rate of single chips ? 95 chips. That'd be 315.789473684211MH/s per.
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"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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punin
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December 28, 2012, 03:12:18 AM |
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W000000000T!
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December 28, 2012, 05:09:47 AM |
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A 5830 in a 6mmx6mm package. Pretty sweet.
Congrats ASICMINER on being first to the party. I hope your chips work.
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December 28, 2012, 05:28:33 AM |
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And so the first true bitcoin ASIC photos arrive. If the chips work as expected the mining community will soon be changing. Too bad it seems I have gambled with the wrong horse so-to-speak
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December 28, 2012, 06:40:12 AM |
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December 28, 2012, 06:45:18 AM |
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Most excellent! Now let's see if this engineering team did a better initial job than BFL and bASIC.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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