VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position

[SavellM]

I'll leave you to decide how you wish to take it.

That is one of the issues that I have, its not black and white.

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[Vod]

You knew you were breaking the terms of our agreement when you made another loan request on BTCJam.

Then I realized why the hell should I listen to you?

[Muhammed Zakir]

You knew you were breaking the terms of our agreement when you made another loan request on BTCJam.

Then I realized why the hell should I listen to you?

https://archive.is/cNpq3

[SavellM]

Your terms were not black and white.

And how do you know there were no other issues, eg an emergency that I needed funds for desperately?
I know the above isn't the case but just saying.

You saying I would have to put my life on hold, come seek your approval, and then do it.
And knowing you no matter what the emergency would be you would never approve it.
Or wait for the 15th while my family matters become a bigger issue?

So I dont need to seek your approval how I use a different website. Thanks but no thanks.

[Benevolentia]

Once again VOD has gone too far and has now left me negative trust because he did not like the fact I criticized his abuse of the trust system. In order to prove he does not abuse the trust system he has abused the trust system to leave me a negative rating:

Vod 16: -0 / +9(9)   2015-01-06  0.00000000    "Constantly posts lies about me in an effort to have me removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis.

Not trustworthy."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15728

My goal was not to have you removed from the default trust list until now.

Previously I was simply trying to get you to check your behavior, but now I can see you have no interest in that only digging your trust abuse hole even deeper by accusing me of lying about you and attacking my reputation with a false trust rating. This is clearly an abuse of the trust system in order to silence my criticism of his activities in his abuse of the trust system. I have told no lies about VOD, and I challenge any one to quote anything untrue I stated about VOD. Regardless, he accuses me of things that are not scam related in a very clear attempt to put a chill effect on his criticism, posted in the appropriate areas where such criticism belongs.

I challenge the staff to now remove him from the default trust, because he clearly has no intent of restraining himself if this is how he responds to just criticism. He seems to believe he has some kind of special authority from staff that protects him when he abuses the trust system. Staff, here is your chance to back your denials of preferential treatment for Vod with actions.

He's quick to jump into conclusion, makes assumptions, blatantly shit-talks and becomes the "savior" and "does justice". While the intention's are to do good and prevent scammers, he goes too far. I'll prove my points.

Background: I'm helping to fundraise for homeless veterans and children or homeless women and children. I have some knowledge on how to use bitcoin and want to see if people could help with donations, I go through websites and find this one.

1. First of all he goes to the conclusion to assume my gender first of all, I am not a "she". I'm a guy. Also he doesn't have any knowledge of the law, he doesn't understand the fact that charities can be tax exempted or not (Image below)
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2. I am raising money for a charity to get tax exempted status, I stated it in my first post. He doesn’t have knowledge again of what a charity is.

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SOURCE: My first post
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Of course the money is unknown where its going, it's an anonymous bitcoin transaction.
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3. He goes to the assumption that I'm confused but I've stated FOUR TIMES that it is my friend's website

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SOURCE: MY THREAD, POST #5 AND POST #21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074543.20
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(TWO PRIVATE MESSAGES)
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4.He goes to the extent in going to the fundraising website and automatically assume it's a scam, degrading my fundraising efforts and the reputation of further fundraising.
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I show legal paperwork that it isn't a scam:
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5. He automatically assumes that he talked to the site owner again(Which he thinks its me), and after I post the legal paperwork, he goes to the extent of saying it is not a nonprofit organization when the papers have already been filed.
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Yet the papers state "This corporation is a nonprofit Public Benefit Corporation and is not organized for the private gain of any person. It is organized under the Nonprofit Public Benefit corporation Law for: (checked: public purposes) (checked: charitable purposes)" SOURCE: My thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074543.20
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EVIDENCE: Officially filed by the government also

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6. He also is ignorant of the fact that corporations can be charities which I already showed the papers. He again shows he is ignorant of the law he states that I am not a real charity for the fact that there is no tax exempted status yet.

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Legality explained, by the legal dictionary this time that corporations can be charities
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In return the real founder of the fundraiser and the website in replies to the mess, noting his assumptions and confusion, he didn’t remove the comments, leaving it there and she had to get the site moderators to pull it down, the charity leader graduated from UCLA, MAJORING IN LAW and was an outstanding student volunteering in many goodwill activities such as soup kitchens, etc.:
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He quits before I can even clear my name
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This guy has jeopardized my efforts in fundraising for homeless people and smeared the reputation of it. I ask the audience to make a judgement if he's going too far.

[duckydonald]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

[SavellM]

Ah good old Vod abusing his position even more.

GJ buddy... Well done

[Lauda]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

None. If this ever happens I'll reach out and relocate him to a safe place because he doesn't deserve to get sued. He probably prevented hundreds of scams. What people don't realize is that he is not perfect, he is a human like all of us. It is normal for him to make a mistake or sometimes get carried away a bit.

One would try suing Vod who is (was) trying to prevent scams rather than trying to sue people who ran scams (especially in the altcoin section). This just shows the overall intelligence of people in this place.


I wonder though why this goes on? Vod has left the forum for the time being, why are you trying to annoy everyone with this nonsense?

[XinXan]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

None. If this ever happens I'll reach out and relocate him to a safe place because he doesn't deserve to get sued. He probably prevented hundreds of scams. What people don't realize is that he is not perfect, he is a human like all of us. It is normal for him to make a mistake or sometimes get carried away a bit.

One would try suing Vod who is (was) trying to prevent scams rather than trying to sue people who ran scams (especially in the altcoin section). This just shows the overall intelligence of people in this place.


I wonder though why this goes on? Vod has left the forum for the time being, why are you trying to annoy everyone with this nonsense?

Because he is a butthurt scammer like all the otheres, from all the accusations against vod and his supposed abuse of power how many have you seen that are legit? Maybe 1 in 100? I have seen none honestly, they are all stupid shit, you ask for a loan of 7 btc with no collateral, you get red trust like anyone else, whats the big deal?

[Blazr]

I noticed something interesting today:


Vod was somehow taken off my custom trust list (I didn't have him on it directly he was on it via a few different people on depth 2 IIRC). I'm not sure how I feel about it, thought it was interesting anyway.

[Alex194]

Whatever who cares anymore, he is leaving the forum, you scammers cant complain anymore and your red will stay there, good luck.

[luka1987]

I got the same negative trust for selling keys. Like people doesn't know how to read, in my thread there is warning about risk of buying those...

anyway, this guy should be banned permanently

[Benevolentia]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

None. If this ever happens I'll reach out and relocate him to a safe place because he doesn't deserve to get sued. He probably prevented hundreds of scams. What people don't realize is that he is not perfect, he is a human like all of us. It is normal for him to make a mistake or sometimes get carried away a bit.

One would try suing Vod who is (was) trying to prevent scams rather than trying to sue people who ran scams (especially in the altcoin section). This just shows the overall intelligence of people in this place.


I wonder though why this goes on? Vod has left the forum for the time being, why are you trying to annoy everyone with this nonsense?

The law is the law, and nobody is above the law. Lady Justice is blind and does not discriminate. While I don't think anyone feels like pursuing litigation, nobody is exempted from it, even if someone has a good reputation.

In a perfect world there should be equal justice for all. If someone does something wrong, an equal and fit punishment shall fit the crime. A police officer who saves lives and protects will still be answerable to the law if he breaks it.

[pissedoff]

I got the same negative trust for selling keys. Like people doesn't know how to read, in my thread there is warning about risk of buying those...

anyway, this guy should be banned permanently

What would he be banned for? the trust system is not moderated or lightly moderated and he doesn't troll.

[ibminer]

I got the same negative trust for selling keys. Like people doesn't know how to read, in my thread there is warning about risk of buying those...

anyway, this guy should be banned permanently

You never put the warning on there when Vod left his feedback for the keys, you put the warning on there this week after I left you negative feedback and said I would make it neutral if you added the warning.

You seem to love misleading people.  

[duckydonald]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

None. If this ever happens I'll reach out and relocate him to a safe place because he doesn't deserve to get sued. He probably prevented hundreds of scams. What people don't realize is that he is not perfect, he is a human like all of us. It is normal for him to make a mistake or sometimes get carried away a bit.

One would try suing Vod who is (was) trying to prevent scams rather than trying to sue people who ran scams (especially in the altcoin section). This just shows the overall intelligence of people in this place.


I wonder though why this goes on? Vod has left the forum for the time being, why are you trying to annoy everyone with this nonsense?

Because he is a butthurt scammer like all the otheres, from all the accusations against vod and his supposed abuse of power how many have you seen that are legit? Maybe 1 in 100? I have seen none honestly, they are all stupid shit, you ask for a loan of 7 btc with no collateral, you get red trust like anyone else, whats the big deal?

where shows me asking for a 7 bitcoin loan, it was a 0.005 and it was filled, Im not butthurt people on default abuse the feedback system, and techshare was one of them who shows it proof, just because newbie gets a false feedback from an accusation, dont mean is true,  good fly him where you want, cause that is illegal.  Theymos has to release info, if a court order if not he housing a criminal.  Online defamation is illegal. someone already got sued for it.  Yeah If I had the money I would take many people to court for it.  Just to teach them, just cause there on the default list dont give them the right to judge others.  yeah I found a way to make money with amazon cards, buy amazon cards for cheap and redeem them.  who the fuck, dont do that?  There are many website who sell cheap amazon cards.  If I redeem them and sell them to a friend what is the big deal about that.  again, VOD abused his default trust. and Im sure many of you old members who didnt get one yet like techshare will be crying later when you get that neg, for an account you took them time to build trust with.  one dumb person can end that.

[jonald_fyookball]

Vod you should stop before you get yourself into trouble you know how many people can sue you for online defamation?

None. If this ever happens I'll reach out and relocate him to a safe place because he doesn't deserve to get sued. He probably prevented hundreds of scams. What people don't realize is that he is not perfect, he is a human like all of us. It is normal for him to make a mistake or sometimes get carried away a bit.

One would try suing Vod who is (was) trying to prevent scams rather than trying to sue people who ran scams (especially in the altcoin section). This just shows the overall intelligence of people in this place.


I wonder though why this goes on? Vod has left the forum for the time being, why are you trying to annoy everyone with this nonsense?

Because he is a butthurt scammer like all the otheres, from all the accusations against vod and his supposed abuse of power how many have you seen that are legit? Maybe 1 in 100? I have seen none honestly, they are all stupid shit, you ask for a loan of 7 btc with no collateral, you get red trust like anyone else, whats the big deal?

where shows me asking for a 7 bitcoin loan, it was a 0.005 and it was filled, Im not butthurt people on default abuse the feedback system, and techshare was one of them who shows it proof, just because newbie gets a false feedback from an accusation, dont mean is true,  good fly him where you want, cause that is illegal.  Theymos has to release info, if a court order if not he housing a criminal.  Online defamation is illegal. someone already got sued for it.  Yeah If I had the money I would take many people to court for it.  Just to teach them, just cause there on the default list dont give them the right to judge others.  yeah I found a way to make money with amazon cards, buy amazon cards for cheap and redeem them.  who the fuck, dont do that?  There are many website who sell cheap amazon cards.  If I redeem them and sell them to a friend what is the big deal about that.  again, VOD abused his default trust. and Im sure many of you old members who didnt get one yet like techshare will be crying later when you get that neg, for an account you took them time to build trust with.  one dumb person can end that.

Leaving a negative trust for someone isn't defamation.  You can sue anyone for any reason, but good luck getting a court to hear you.
Actually Vod has more of a case to sue people for defamation who were calling him a pedo etc.

[SavellM]

This is the best news I've heard all day.

Pitty the -neg will stay, but if he is no longer in default trust surely that will go too??

[Muhammed Zakir]

This is the best news I've heard all day.

Pitty the -neg will stay, but if he is no longer in default trust surely that will go too??

If Vod is not in default trust list, his feedback will still be there but won't affect your trust rating.

[TECSHARE]

Leaving a negative trust for someone isn't defamation.  You can sue anyone for any reason, but good luck getting a court to hear you.
Actually Vod has more of a case to sue people for defamation who were calling him a pedo etc.

No, but making up stories about people based on zero evidence is. I should add he resides in Canada, which follows similar defamation and libel laws to the UK, which are extremely broadly enforced. When you start attacking nonprofits trying to become tax deductible charities, you start to attract lawyers working probono looking to make a name for themselves in the public eye.