Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow.

[nwfella]

All the best Ross, you got a long road ahead of you mate.
Fuck all the people here putting you down, you didn't push drugs, you helped people who wanted to score get them and that should not be a crime in my books, ok maybe you went a bit over the top with hiring the hitman (if true) but still a legend to many.

Try get a hold of a laptop or mobile while inside and tells us the truth, you still have a lot of support in the community.
Keep your spirits up!

lmao...I'm just wondering what kind of shuffling gait the inmate that managed to successfully keister a netbook into prison would look like.

As for DPR's plight.  I suspect he will have the proverbial book thrown at him to be sure.  They will try and make an example out of him to dissuade potential future DPR's from taking his place.

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[bitkilo]

All the best Ross, you got a long road ahead of you mate.
Fuck all the people here putting you down, you didn't push drugs, you helped people who wanted to score get them and that should not be a crime in my books, ok maybe you went a bit over the top with hiring the hitman (if true) but still a legend to many.

Try get a hold of a laptop or mobile while inside and tells us the truth, you still have a lot of support in the community.
Keep your spirits up!

lmao...I'm just wondering what kind of shuffling gait the inmate that managed to successfully keister a netbook into prison would look like.

As for DPR's plight.  I suspect he will have the proverbial book thrown at him to be sure.  They will try and make an example out of him to dissuade potential future DPR's from taking his place.

Well obviously your jails are more secure than ours her because whatever you want the warden will bring it in for you, at a price.

This seems like good timing, Ross goes to trial today and silk road is back online as silkroadreloaded.i2p.

[bf4btc]

They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

[flipstyle]

They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

That's a good point.  They may just throw the book at him in order to set a precedence and try and cast a public black eye on the currency.  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..

[bf4btc]

They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

That's a good point.  They may just throw the book at him in order to set a precedence and try and cast a public black eye on the currency.  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..

I think they have thrown the book at him. I don't think they will outright not accept any plea deal at all, however there will not be part of any deal that involves him trying to help catch someone "bigger". The government may offer a deal that would involve in pleeding guilty in exchange for a lesser sentence so the government would not need to bear the expense of trying him and risk loosing on 4th amendment appeals.

[jonald_fyookball]

  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..

We do?

[haploid23]

  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..

We do?

Of course! The government loves crypto. In fact, they're trading tons of it themselves, and they don't have a bigger brother to oversee them.

[2btc]

They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

That's a good point.  They may just throw the book at him in order to set a precedence and try and cast a public black eye on the currency.  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..

I think they have thrown the book at him. I don't think they will outright not accept any plea deal at all, however there will not be part of any deal that involves him trying to help catch someone "bigger". The government may offer a deal that would involve in pleeding guilty in exchange for a lesser sentence so the government would not need to bear the expense of trying him and risk loosing on 4th amendment appeals.

He's not pleading guilty though. He's admitted to creating it but seems to be trying to say he passed ownership onto someone else. I don't see how they're gonna buy that when they caught him red handed logged in as DPR.

[TheDreadPirateDickstein]

You don't doubt that he's the mastermind yet you think he should get off easy?  He's a criminal that probably deserves to spend a very long time in prison.

NO

You are mistaken...about quite....many....things....you do not deserve to be in my sacred digital homeland.

Fuck off bagholder.

Ok so dude:
1. Ran huge drug site
2.Bought forged documents for multiple countries
3.Tried to have a guy MURDERED


soooo why should we give any shits on how much time he gets?

ONE:  Self-reliant and free access to drugs and healthcare are an inalienable right according to Thomas Jefferson's opinion of the United States constitution, which is frankly, the only one that matters.

TWO : I give two shits

THREE : THE MAN HE TRIED TO KILL I DECLARE TO BE AN ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC. He was going to reveal the identities of all SR users. If I were DPR...I'd have done the same thing. Allah u Akbar

[darkota]

They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life.  

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

Lol, 1 billion a year being exchanged on an online drug site is Small Change compared to what some drug cartels exchange yearly. Yes, Ross's Silk Road was the biggest drug exchange ever on the internet, but it is very far from being the biggest drug operation ever. Leaders of drug cartels have been making billions since the early 1900s, Ross is nothing in comparison.

[BADecker]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

[thriftshopping]

Lol, 1 billion a year being exchanged on an online drug site is Small Change compared to what some drug cartels exchange yearly. Yes, Ross's Silk Road was the biggest drug exchange ever on the internet, but it is very far from being the biggest drug operation ever. Leaders of drug cartels have been making billions since the early 1900s, Ross is nothing in comparison.

I don't think many of these drug cartels are located in the US. Even if they were located in the US it would be very difficult for Ross to help catch and prosecute them because the government already has most/all of the evidence he could potentially turn over in the silk road servers

[mayax]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

[jonald_fyookball]

http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-ceo-mark-karpeles-implicated-silk-road-trial/

discuss.

[BADecker]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

[jonald_fyookball]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

Do you have actual experience in the legal system, or are you just spouting theories?
I have several lawyers in my family... And from what they tell me, anything is possible.
It's really up to the judges and juries.

[Bit_Happy]

http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-ceo-mark-karpeles-implicated-silk-road-trial/

discuss.

I would never have expected that! You really cannot make this stuff up.

[cryptworld]

it looks that the trial has bring some really strange possibilities

some times life takes over fiction

[mayax]

http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-ceo-mark-karpeles-implicated-silk-road-trial/

discuss.

I would never have expected that! You really cannot make this stuff up.

it is a bullshit. Ross Ulbricht owned Silk Road. FBI will bring the evidence next weeks. You will see.

Karpeles remains a thief and money launderer as most of the Bitcoin exchangers

[flipstyle]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

lol@implying the government can't get their way one way or another.

'Government' and 'uphill' in the judicial system are antonyms.  If you haven't noticed, the government is the judge, juror and executioner.    It's essentially synonymous to suing google in their own in-house legislative court.


Even in your unrealistic dream world scenario, should either of the two magically escape sentencing, then the government always has alternate ways to quietly erase them 'off the map,' so to speak.

They can and will do as they please...without recourse.

And I can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could defend either of the two.  I'd be completely fine with an underground craigslist type selling world that strictly prohibits black market fire arms and hard drugs (no, marijuana isn't a hard drug).   But supporting either one of these ass-clowns is essentially stating your support for heroin addicts and child pornography.  i.e. you are a sick f___  (insert the blank)