Calling you forth, Coinographic

[Saigonsmokes]

FURTHER I SUGGEST NOBODY REGISTERS A PETITION TO WIND UP THE COMPANY! THIS WILL ONLY ASSIST COINOGRAPHIC IN RUNNING AWAY FROM THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES

[smoothie]

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253462#msg253462

1. No I don’t expect our customers to pay to wind up our business.  I simply stated that neither the company nor I could afford to do it.  The option is available should anyone wish to wind up the company

2. The 45 bull, 29 chicken and 38 LA coins that we did have in stock have now been retained and collected by the coin manufacture for outstanding invoices.   This stock was not sold and Charles Lee DID NOT buy them nor did anyone else.  We have no silver coins.

3. We had molds and dies made for all of our upcoming collection, including a prototype for the 5 BTC coin and prototype boxes for all coins.  In addition we paid for and ordered the holograms for the 5 BTC and 2btc coins.  We also paid for a surplus stock of boxes for our 25LTC and 10 LTC coins.  We also have 50 boxes for each of the 5BTC and 2 BTC coins.

4. I did not forget any of the conversations I had on the phone and I am glad you recorded them all.  At the time we were talking I had every single intention of filling all orders.  I tried all possibilities to raise additional finance to fund the company and fill all obligations ( I can also prove every avenue that was explored).  All possibilities failed.  I have all invoices and receipts for everything that has been paid.  When this is presented to the court it will account for 100% of the monies received.

5. The designer received 1000’s of euros in payment from us.  It was only the last coins he did not receive payment from us which is a total of 1500 euro. All payments made to the designer can also be proved.

7. Neither of my offices were virtual, they were both physical offices and I can also prove that we occupied those offices. All my evidence will be presented to the court when required.

8. Greg was an investor in the company.  His circumstances changed and he was no longer able to put money in to the company. Greg has not been paid back a penny and has received no money form company funds what so ever.  Delia used to work for us but we had to let her go as we could not afford her wages

9. We have never received any payment in cash, only digital currency

I have tried my best to answer as many questions as possible but it seems people have made up their mind.  Anything else will be presented in court when requested.  I will no longer post here

Is that why you keep avoiding answering the question about funding amounts paid to you for coins purchased that you had in stock that you never shipped?

You are a sorry excuse for a human being by taking people's money, making countless promises, now running away like a coward and not paying a single customer back.

Utterly pathetic.

[IronMarvel]

Just checked this thread for news...

Coinographic, thats just some fucked up shit that you are pulling here...
Only lies and cheating. You are officially a SCAMMER!

[monkeynuts]

Has anyone ever redeemed a Coinographic coin ? Was everything in order with the private key ?

[monkeynuts]

Any more news ?

[smoothie]

I received this message from Coinographic yesterday morning. I replied "Sorry to hear that. Can I ask what you plan to do with the pre-sale funds for the gold collection?"

As of this morning, I haven't heard back. 

For the record, I had offered to purchase one of Coinographic's silver pieces recently, and I expressed an interest in
a trade with them as well.

I am not posting this to tear them down. I don't know the entire story. I am posting this because after reading the comments below I believe this information could prevent others from pre-ordering a product that may never show up.

as far as i am aware every order has been shipped.  We will look into this for you

I ordered and paid on 09th december and still wait for shipping information!!!

Paid two weeks ago and their account went dark since then. No responses to PMs. I'm starting to get concerned......

They've been online 3 days ago on the litecointalk forum. I'm starting to think there wasn't any plans to make physical bitcoins at all  but I don't want to cause any FUD.

I haven't seen any member here receives physical bitcoin from Coinographic.  It is alarming that the shipping due date is fast approaching and there is no words or reply from Coinographic on the pre-order coins.  I was preparing to order the silver physical bitcoin from them but now I am backing out  concern that they may be facing some kinds o ffinancial or cash flow trouble.

Looks like coinographics claims that he had lots of stock and wanted to trade with Kialara was a lie.

[smoothie]

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg263397#msg263397

UPDATE ON COINOGRAPHIC LEGAL PROCEEDINGS BY SAIGONED:

Update:

Claim History

Your claim was issued on 16/02/2015
You submitted a judgment against Mr Mark Hamilton on 10/03/2015 at 03:08:25
Your judgment against Mr Mark Hamilton was issued on 11/03/2015 at 19:19:12
You can issue a Warrant of Execution against Mr Mark Hamilton on 14/04/2015 at 14.00.00.

I will be issuing a warrant of execution this week - that will enable baliffs to enter his home, a County Court Judgement will also be applied against his credit rating.

I will be reporting this as fraud to the police once the court procedures are completed. I have evidence that our funds were not spent on manufacturing and business costs, rather Mark purchased thousands and thousands of dollars worth of Litecoin Gear shares in Oct/Nov/Dec and obviously we know what happened there. I have details of all of these transactions:)

So the funds were misappropriated, if you wish to be involved in criminal charges against Mark - please PM me. Fraud has been committed and I now have evidence.

[nicolasgramlich]

**grabs popcorn**

[Mitchell]

Cross posting these quotes so that everybody, who was involved with Coinographic, knows about it. If you have a Coinographic coin, be sure to check your balance!

I just checked my Coinographic coin and it was loaded until 2016-05-24. They emptied the coin a week ago, which means that they kept the private keys. I'm not surprised though.

Woah.
You paid for the funded one, right?

I bought this coin from ErikVanBreen on 09-07-2015 (dd-mm-yyyy) at which point it was already known that Coinographic turned into a scam. The coin was loaded at that point in time, so yes, I did pay for a funded coin. It seems that the guy behind Coinographic desperately needs money, why else would he steal something as little as 1LTC.

He probably swept all the LTC keys at once, so it wasn't about 1 LTC for him.
But still, what an asshole. :/

I have a couple of funded Lealanas, but I'm sure smoothie wouldn't do something like this.

Confirmed. Coinographic emptied at least 21 coins: http://ltc.blockr.io/tx/info/5e05007cb26ae85ef6091868b2a0d4625224c2899f387015433b0ade3620aa42.

21 * 4,72 = 99.12$ at the current market price, which is not a lot.

[AT101ET]

That is just disgraceful.
I was quite involved when the whole scam took place and I actually spoke to their CEO (Mark) at the time. His reason for closure, for not funding coins and for not fulfilling orders was due to a lot of accumulated debt. As a result he filed for bankruptcy. Although that whole episode was extremely shady, he had some legal protection as a limited company. However, this is just pure theft and a blatant crime.

[monkeynuts]

Low blow that.

Sounds like I need to check the coins I have then.

Back in the original saga, I never did find out if anything ever happened .... I seem to remeber Saigon had a large claim on Coinographic, and didnt look like letting it go quietly

[Poloherb]

Low blow that.

Sounds like I need to check the coins I have then.

Back in the original saga, I never did find out if anything ever happened .... I seem to remeber Saigon had a large claim on Coinographic, and didnt look like letting it go quietly

You do not have to check the coin that I bought from you is empty now.
http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/Lg58QfBBLdF6vWfDxctnwMVbW987WpPArY

I guess that all coins are empty, see transfers over 12696 LTC

[monkeynuts]

Low blow that.

Sounds like I need to check the coins I have then.

Back in the original saga, I never did find out if anything ever happened .... I seem to remeber Saigon had a large claim on Coinographic, and didnt look like letting it go quietly

You do not have to check the coin that I bought from you is empty now.
http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/Lg58QfBBLdF6vWfDxctnwMVbW987WpPArY

I guess that all coins are empty, see transfers over 12696 LTC

http://ltc.blockr.io/#!/address/info/LKQ75Dsz8ZHPhedZtCpbKnYvaRvxYQ2Bdk

You figuring all transactions made to this wallet are part of coins being swept ?

Not able to check my coins yet .... has anyone else checked and found that they do in fact still have funded coins ?

[Poloherb]

Any questions?
1LTC -->   http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/Ld5QScdmpmefADDFkjUXYt4cS2Uf8L2avd
25LTC --> http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/Lg58QfBBLdF6vWfDxctnwMVbW987WpPArY

Coin from Mitchełł 
http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/LZQqEJAsb22kbaFepEQfHUdY96sKoM7KEL

[bithalo]

Confirmed that all 4 of my 4 LTC coins had their funds recently stolen on May 24:

25 LTC - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LPbQFibg6VySZRc2TeFijV3H1NWpoL5KFn
10 LTC Chickun - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LRA4QHRq6LEpzh73dNCNfFRiW2z5c4PmBq
10 LTC Foundation - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LeyAD2P2SeDmdRckGzWGqAbzASAoRN6f4c
1 LTC - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LLK4mLHG2zJ3yqaRfkFxyUu3fSbQohPF6X

I knew of the risks, but didn't want to destroy the holos, so I left the coins intact. 

This is in addition to the 1B and 2B coins I paid for and never received. 

Thanks Mark. 

[LazerViking]

Confirmed that all 4 of my 4 LTC coins had their funds recently stolen on May 24:

25 LTC - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LPbQFibg6VySZRc2TeFijV3H1NWpoL5KFn
10 LTC Chickun - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LRA4QHRq6LEpzh73dNCNfFRiW2z5c4PmBq
10 LTC Foundation - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LeyAD2P2SeDmdRckGzWGqAbzASAoRN6f4c
1 LTC - http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LLK4mLHG2zJ3yqaRfkFxyUu3fSbQohPF6X

I knew of the risks, but didn't want to destroy the holos, so I left the coins intact. 

This is in addition to the 1B and 2B coins I paid for and never received. 

Thanks Mark. 

Same here.....didn't want to mess with the precious hologram.  In retrospect, that wasn't very smart.  I even could have made a new address with the extra stickers that were included.

[LazerViking]

So it looks like he got 10LTC from my chikun coin on May 24th

and then stole the 25LTC from my Bull coin on May 26th.

[LazerViking]

Low blow that.

Sounds like I need to check the coins I have then.

Back in the original saga, I never did find out if anything ever happened .... I seem to remeber Saigon had a large claim on Coinographic, and didnt look like letting it go quietly

You do not have to check the coin that I bought from you is empty now.
http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/Lg58QfBBLdF6vWfDxctnwMVbW987WpPArY

I guess that all coins are empty, see transfers over 12696 LTC

so he stole 12,696 LTC?

That is almost $60k

[TookDk]

Karma will eventually get you Mark.

[bitenvy]

F U Mark.  You will be prosecuted and sitting in jail soon.