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January 28, 2015, 07:07:12 AM
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I'm not going personal. I want simple answers to simple questions.

Fair enough. In the mean time, let me remind you theymos' suggestion:

Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware.

...then I'd be glad to reinstate my votes Wink

I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?

Nicely put. Let's have some transparency about what happened.
I think that it's very important.

Wait and see, I guess Smiley
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January 28, 2015, 07:08:43 AM
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Look at it from my presepective:
The poll questions were DELETED, not moved.
It's unbelievable hostile action.

We get it.  You paid good BTC for those polls and are upset they got nuked from space.

But deploying minions to spam the HW sub is also an arguably "hostile action" and will predictably result in moderation.

Again, I suggest you



instead of being a Spamdoolie.

You have a successful ASIC company and should have much better things to do than badger Thermos.

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January 28, 2015, 07:13:24 AM
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Look at it from my presepective:
The poll questions were DELETED, not moved.
It's unbelievable hostile action.

We get it.  You paid good BTC for those polls and are upset they got nuked from space.

But deploying minions to spam the HW sub is also an arguably "hostile action" and will predictably result in moderation.

Again, I suggest you



instead of being a Spamdoolie.

You have a successful ASIC company and should have much better things to do than badger Thermos.

If you need help brainstorming ideas, let us know.
No, I didn't pay good BTCs for the polls.
I asked Philip what he wants for running it, he wanted token payment. He also stated that he'll donate it.

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January 28, 2015, 07:15:31 AM
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I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?


I will do this last post before I let it cool down and see how it plays out.  I am not wanting to become a troll.

If you will read my whole last post I ask for transparency, please re-read my previous comment.  I have not said a name and will not, as again i can just suspect.  I do think it is important on how it happened, this is why I think being open is easier.

If you read "Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware."   Why were threads not moved to there instead of being deleted?
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January 28, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
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Having 6 open topics about the same thing isn't OK. It's not fair to people who read/post other topics, since they'll tend to have a disadvantage when it comes to position in the topics list.

Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware.
Thank you for the explanation and the solution how to do the poll.

However, it raises more questions:

Why not simply to move the poll questions to Archival and ask Philip to change his post ?
Why the aggressive delete without any explanation ?
Are you covering for another mod action with an explanation after the fact ?
Was the deleting was done due to another Dogie complain ?

Back to topic. Can I get some transparency about what happened and get simple answers to simple questions?

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January 28, 2015, 07:26:19 AM
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Having 6 open topics about the same thing isn't OK. It's not fair to people who read/post other topics, since they'll tend to have a disadvantage when it comes to position in the topics list.

Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware.
Thank you for the explanation and the solution how to do the poll.

However, it raises more questions:

Why not simply to move the poll questions to Archival and ask Philip to change his post ?
Why the aggressive delete without any explanation ?
Are you covering for another mod action with an explanation after the fact ?
Was the deleting was done due to another Dogie complain ?

Back to topic. Can I get some transparency about what happened and get simple answers to simple questions?

You already got transparency about what happened and simple answers.

Now you are demanding a proprietary right to discipline moderators and detailed answers with exhaustive explanations.

That reflects poorly on Spamdoolies otherwise perfect record.

You really should




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January 28, 2015, 07:31:53 AM
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More spondoolies spam? There's no conspiracy here for once. Spam gets deleted. Grow a thicker skin - it's in the newbies advice thread.

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January 28, 2015, 07:39:02 AM
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I've been around here for over 3.5 years and can tell you this 100% certainty.

Posting six nearly identical threads will get them deleted no matter where they are.

In addition most people would be banned for a few days.



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January 28, 2015, 08:23:24 AM
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I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?


I will do this last post before I let it cool down and see how it plays out.  I am not wanting to become a troll.

If you will read my whole last post I ask for transparency, please re-read my previous comment.  I have not said a name and will not, as again i can just suspect.  I do think it is important on how it happened, this is why I think being open is easier.

If you read "Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware."   Why were threads not moved to there instead of being deleted?

Because spam gets deleted. If you want specific action like this taken you need to work it out with a moderator beforehand. Not just post it and hope they deal with it the way you hope they will.

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January 28, 2015, 08:30:28 AM
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I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?


I will do this last post before I let it cool down and see how it plays out.  I am not wanting to become a troll.

If you will read my whole last post I ask for transparency, please re-read my previous comment.  I have not said a name and will not, as again i can just suspect.  I do think it is important on how it happened, this is why I think being open is easier.

If you read "Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware."   Why were threads not moved to there instead of being deleted?

Because spam gets deleted. If you want specific action like this taken you need to work it out with a moderator beforehand. Not just post it and hope they deal with it the way you hope they will.
Those threads contained poll questions and forum members took the time to answer them.
They weren't spam.
Granted, Philip posted them in the wrong place.
Can I get answers to my questions?

I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

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January 28, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
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-snip-
Those threads contained poll questions and forum members took the time to answer them.
They weren't spam.

Mods (as well os other members reporting them) seem to think differently. Theymos even gave you an explanation why in his opinion they are spam.

Granted, Philip posted them in the wrong place.
Can I get answers to my questions?

In my experience: Nope you wont. You seem to take it way to personal anyway.

I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

Thanks for making my point.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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January 28, 2015, 08:39:59 AM
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We get it.  You paid good BTC for those polls and are upset they got nuked from space.

No, I didn't pay good BTCs for the polls.
I asked Philip what he wants for running it, he wanted token payment. He also stated that he'll donate it.






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You already got the answer to your question, which was "because spam gets deleted."  There is no conspiracy against you, just normal forum rules.

At this point, you need to stop digging and start doing damage control.  I suggest a 'Sorry Thermos' apology thread.

Your company has a lot of goodwill in the community (a rare thing) and this is a ludicrous issue to waste it on.


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-snip-
Those threads contained poll questions and forum members took the time to answer them.
They weren't spam.

Mods (as well os other members reporting them) seem to think differently. Theymos even gave you an explanation why in his opinion they are spam.

Granted, Philip posted them in the wrong place.
Can I get answers to my questions?

In my experience: Nope you wont. You seem to take it way to personal anyway.

I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

Thanks for making my point.
The correct action would have been to move the poll questions and not deleting them without explanation.

As time pass and I don't get real answers and transperacy about what happened, I admit that my suspicious grows.

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I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

As time pass and I don't get real answers and transperacy about what happened, I admit that my suspicious grows.




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go away iCEBREAKER!!!!! nobody wants you on this forum besides other trolls like you!

Do you believe there is a moderator conspiracy singling out poor Spamdoolies for oppression?


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I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?


I will do this last post before I let it cool down and see how it plays out.  I am not wanting to become a troll.

If you will read my whole last post I ask for transparency, please re-read my previous comment.  I have not said a name and will not, as again i can just suspect.  I do think it is important on how it happened, this is why I think being open is easier.

If you read "Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware."   Why were threads not moved to there instead of being deleted?

Because spam gets deleted. If you want specific action like this taken you need to work it out with a moderator beforehand. Not just post it and hope they deal with it the way you hope they will.
Those threads contained poll questions and forum members took the time to answer them.
They weren't spam.
Granted, Philip posted them in the wrong place.
Can I get answers to my questions?

I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

No, because you've already made up your mind, and I don't care enough to try and change it. Maybe someone else will, maybe they won't.

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go away iCEBREAKER!!!!! nobody wants you on this forum besides other trolls like you!

Do you believe there is a moderator conspiracy singling out poor Spamdoolies for oppression?

just go wash some dishes, change the engine oil, ride on a broom!
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I'm not trying to troll just wondered the timeline of what happened for it to be removed.  I know this forum is a place I do enjoy, and it is a "Privilege" not a "Right" to be able to use the site.  I just wish on a incident like this the community was not so in the dark.

And I'm not saying you are.

Yes, I think that plain deletion of these polls without any comment from the mods was kind of brutal. However, after theymos' answer, I would assume good faith from the mods, i.e. not make it a big deal, and just move forward. Even if Dogie were indeed the one reporting philipma1957's polls, 1) it's not public information, and 2) it doesn't really make any difference, does it?


I will do this last post before I let it cool down and see how it plays out.  I am not wanting to become a troll.

If you will read my whole last post I ask for transparency, please re-read my previous comment.  I have not said a name and will not, as again i can just suspect.  I do think it is important on how it happened, this is why I think being open is easier.

If you read "Post the polls in Archival, and lock all of them. Then link to the polls from one topic in Hardware."   Why were threads not moved to there instead of being deleted?

Because spam gets deleted. If you want specific action like this taken you need to work it out with a moderator beforehand. Not just post it and hope they deal with it the way you hope they will.
Those threads contained poll questions and forum members took the time to answer them.
They weren't spam.
Granted, Philip posted them in the wrong place.
Can I get answers to my questions?

I'm getting strong sense of coverups and excuses after the fact for a very brutal / hostile mod action directed to hurt us due to the poll results.

No, because you've already made up your mind, and I don't care enough to try and change it. Maybe someone else will, maybe they won't.
I didn't made up my mind. Please read the thread.
Direct question: Did you delete the poll posts ?

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January 28, 2015, 09:42:09 AM
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ok spamdoolie.. you have good equipment and great support.  don't throw it all away and become a spam monster.  it was enough when you had the giveaway and all hardware posts were yours.. but one poster and all those posts.. that's a bit much.
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