geoffreyqp (OP)
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 01:29:50 PM |
|
can they prove that the gift cards are not "carded".
from what i've read on other sites, even if i buy something. i'm likely to not get in trouble. however, my address can get blacklisted so amazon won't ship to me anymore.
the recent threads are getting a lot of hits, yet a couple months ago people were making the same offer at 30-35% off amazon prices and those threads got ignored to some extent compared to the ones being posted now. i ordered a few things for xmas, and all seems well so far about 1-2 months later. but i decided to stop using the service back then.
if they can prove that the gift cards are legit, i would order a couple thousand $'s worth of stuff for sure just so i can resell it for profit.
if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
not saying that you aren't legit. actually i hope they are because it's an amazing deal. but just stating the obvious to protect others in this thread just in case.
|
|
|
|
TookDk
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 01:46:25 PM |
|
Well... I was tempted too. But I came to my own (personal) conclusion that it is not worth the "risk" just to save a few hundred dollars. Basically I do not want to risk my name and address to be associated with anything shady on the internet - not worth it for saving some dollars.
|
Cryptography is one of the few things you can truly trust.
|
|
|
camolist
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 02:06:03 PM |
|
someone has a $100 birthday gift they want to turn into BTC and willing to take a 50% loss
ok... i mean still risky ive seen people scam for less than that
someone has unlimited amounts of amazon credit at anything over 10% discount
you are participating in a crime...
|
|
|
|
thebitcoinquiz.com
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 02:30:05 PM |
|
See if the offers are too good then they are just scams! No one will sell you things worth 100$ for 1$ but if someone does this then he is scamming. Better to stay away from such scams. Don't give in no matter how much you are tempted.
|
Stay hungry. Stay foolish.
|
|
|
amazon4u
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 04:06:27 PM |
|
To all the naysayers here, I own an Amazon selling service and I also have a couple of questions for you. Number 1 : Do you think Amazon is retarded ? 2. Do you think Amazon lets you buy gift cards and with stolen credit cards and after the owner chargebacks, they don't cancel the gift cards and lets you use it forever and ever until the end of time ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 3. Do you believe in fairy tales ? If Yes, in which one ? 4. Do you honestly think that you can buy a gift card anywhere in the world (not just Amazon) and than chargeback your credit card afterwards and get away with it ? What do you think it will happen ? Please try it and see what Amazon does to your account. Than come here and tell us, if it's possible to "steal" from Amazon. I am ready to make a 100 BTC bet with all the naysayers here, that your account will be closed in less than 48h after the chargeback . Are you in ? Now if you take just 1 min of your time and go onto the part of internet where you never gone before, you will have a revelation : http://www.giftcardgranny.com/sell-a-gift-card/https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/gift-cards/2000-amazon-gift-card-for-sale-at-1500this is just a fraction of the websites from where you can acquire gift cards at under 75% of the value (if you buy in bulk of course). So yes people, there are plenty of legitimate businesses that sell gift cards at a significant discount when buying in bulk. Now that the conspiracy is over I hope you can now live in peace with yourself and with others who are trying to make an honest buck.
|
|
|
|
OgNasty
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4830
Merit: 4535
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 05:08:27 PM |
|
I took 1 minute of my time to check out your claims. Looks like giftcardgranny has a single amazon code for a 4% discount, with the rest being 1% discounts. The cryptothrift seller you linked is brand new, and could be a total scam for all anyone knows. I'm a bit disappointed with the argument you're trying to make here.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
elephantas1
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 05:13:55 PM |
|
3. Do you believe in fairy tales ? If Yes, in which one ?
Actually yes i believe in some. there is one called Snow White which might have happened in real world
|
|
|
|
Blazed
Casascius Addict
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 05:24:56 PM |
|
People wouldn't notice the fraudulent charges for a month at least. If you receive the goods bought with a carded code Amazon will pursue you. It could be months down the road also. People taking upto 10% I could see versus LBC prices, but 25% screams scam.
Oh and of course always brand new accounts offer them...
|
|
|
|
TheButterZone
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3024
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 06:32:57 PM |
|
The only way you'll find out they're carded is when you hear "police, open up, search warrant!" at your door after Amazon reports you for receiving fraudulently paid-for goods.
|
Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
|
|
|
|
|
|
amazon4u
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 06:55:57 PM |
|
Bulk means everything above $10k...I have $33000 USD right now in Amazon codes...so let me get this straight, you just want the Silver/Gold right ? I'm ok with this...no probs... But what happens if I order your stuff and you don't show up ? I will have 33k in silver or gold at 25% less the market prices ...correct ? how would you expect this to work for both parties ?
|
|
|
|
amazon4u
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:02:14 PM Last edit: February 11, 2015, 07:13:37 PM by amazon4u |
|
People wouldn't notice the fraudulent charges for a month at least. If you receive the goods bought with a carded code Amazon will pursue you. It could be months down the road also. People taking upto 10% I could see versus LBC prices, but 25% screams scam.
Oh and of course always brand new accounts offer them...
I wonder how quickly you notice $1000 USD missing from your credit card ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ...I bet it takes you months, maybe years till you notice that your card is used fraudulently ? Well, are you in a coma ? Because it is either that, or you are way too rich to notice 1k gone the wrong way... With all due respect here, this discussion is getting ridiculous with all sorts of "SnowWhites in a coma" posting here. If you have arguments I am ready for an open discussion , if not I will stop answering you guys.
|
|
|
|
camolist
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:02:40 PM |
|
Bulk means everything above $10k...I have $33000 USD right now in Amazon codes...so let me get this straight, you just want the Silver/Gold right ? I'm ok with this...no probs... But what happens if I order your stuff and you don't show up ? I will have 33k in silver or gold at 25% less the market prices ...correct ? how would you expect this to work for both parties ?
i misread your post to be 25% of value instead of 25% off so a $100 purchase you would want $75 (i was misreading as $25) but no problem this might still be doable If i did not show up you would have spent these gift cards which i can only assume you are obtaining for less than $75 at their full face value on gold which just about every city in the world has a shop that would pay you more then you paid amazon at that 25%+ discount - but i would not be against btc held in escrow on the condition i showed up what state are you in? (thread hijacking but i think people would be more willing to do something like this if you showed you had no problem shipping the product to yourself and doing the trade in person)
|
|
|
|
amazon4u
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:22:52 PM |
|
Bulk means everything above $10k...I have $33000 USD right now in Amazon codes...so let me get this straight, you just want the Silver/Gold right ? I'm ok with this...no probs... But what happens if I order your stuff and you don't show up ? I will have 33k in silver or gold at 25% less the market prices ...correct ? how would you expect this to work for both parties ?
i misread your post to be 25% of value instead of 25% off so a $100 purchase you would want $75 (i was misreading as $25) but no problem this might still be doable If i did not show up you would have spent these gift cards which i can only assume you are obtaining for less than $75 at their full face value on gold which just about every city in the world has a shop that would pay you more then you paid amazon at that 25%+ discount - but i would not be against btc held in escrow on the condition i showed up what state are you in? (thread hijacking but i think people would be more willing to do something like this if you showed you had no problem shipping the product to yourself and doing the trade in person) Let's take this discussion elsewhere ...send me a PM and we can work something out if you are really interested... As for " people would be more willing to do something like this if you showed you had no problem shipping the product to yourself and doing the trade in person" ... Well that's impossible for the kinds of deals I am doing right now...I am selling one antenna , one SSD, one Trezor etc people are ordering one product at a time, and they live all across the USA...I even have a client from Honolulu ...are you suggesting meeting them all in their locations with their products ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What you suggest works only for a bulk buyer, which I don't have right now, but maybe I will have one in following months ..once I find one buyer ready to buy all my vouchers or just stuff I can do deliveries...but right now for a SSD or other items it's just pointless to even think at your method... This is a business experiment that should work given the allocated time and funds for it...however only time will tell...
|
|
|
|
redsn0w
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:25:26 PM |
|
I think this practice is illegal and obviously dishonest, why someone should request a refund (or better a partial refund) after receiving the "object" that he ordered?
|
|
|
|
Bralex
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:34:34 PM |
|
The old saying goes if something is to good to be true then it usually is, you are right to be weary op it seems to good to me.
If you have these brilliant discounts why do you not buy something from there that is already pretty cheap then sell it on i what i would want to know.
Don't risk you're personal details address etc for saving a couple of bucks when you run the risk of there being no amazon discount anyway lol
|
|
|
|
camolist
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:36:53 PM |
|
Let's take this discussion elsewhere ...s end me a PM and we can work something out if you are really interested... As for " people would be more willing to do something like this if you showed you had no problem shipping the product to yourself and doing the trade in person" ... Well that's impossible for the kinds of deals I am doing right now...I am selling one antenna , one SSD, one Trezor etc people are ordering one product at a time, and they live all across the USA...I even have a client from Honolulu ...are you suggesting meeting them all in their locations with their products ? What you suggest works only for a bulk buyer, which I don't have right now, but maybe I will have one in following months ..once I find one buyer ready to buy all my vouchers or just stuff I can do deliveries...but right now for a SSD or other items it's just pointless to even think at your method...
This is a business experiment that should work given the allocated time and funds for it...however only time will tell... i like openness especially in a case like this you are trying to weasel out of this "only works for a bulk buyer" i'm right here making a bulk offer http://www.amazon.com/2015-American-Gold-Eagle-U-S/dp/B00SCIPXN6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423683159&sr=8-1&keywords=gold+eagle1,429.95 free shipping * 10 * 0.75 = 10724.63 USD worth of bitcoin assuming you live within the continental US and would be willing to meet in a secure+public location i come to you so no worries about travel expenses for you edit: i would actually find 10 or 15 more such coins if this deal was serious to use up all 33,000 usd worth of cards you have i would be willing to escrow some amount to guarantee my appearance at the location but this should not be a big worry for you as you would be buying gold at a 25% discount for yourself and you could just turn around and sell it and instant profit in cash i would expect you to escrow enough btc to cover my travel expenses to guarantee i am not traveling for nothing
|
|
|
|
amazon4u
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Selling Stuff 20% OFF ! See my signature
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 11, 2015, 07:48:00 PM Last edit: February 11, 2015, 10:50:05 PM by amazon4u |
|
Let's take this discussion elsewhere ...s end me a PM and we can work something out if you are really interested... As for " people would be more willing to do something like this if you showed you had no problem shipping the product to yourself and doing the trade in person" ... Well that's impossible for the kinds of deals I am doing right now...I am selling one antenna , one SSD, one Trezor etc people are ordering one product at a time, and they live all across the USA...I even have a client from Honolulu ...are you suggesting meeting them all in their locations with their products ? What you suggest works only for a bulk buyer, which I don't have right now, but maybe I will have one in following months ..once I find one buyer ready to buy all my vouchers or just stuff I can do deliveries...but right now for a SSD or other items it's just pointless to even think at your method...
This is a business experiment that should work given the allocated time and funds for it...however only time will tell... i like openness especially in a case like this you are trying to weasel out of this "only works for a bulk buyer" i'm right here making a bulk offer http://www.amazon.com/2015-American-Gold-Eagle-U-S/dp/B00SCIPXN6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423683159&sr=8-1&keywords=gold+eagle1,429.95 free shipping * 10 * 0.75 = 10724.63 USD worth of bitcoin assuming you live within the continental US and would be willing to meet in a secure+public location i come to you so no worries about travel expenses for you we need an Escrow deal for this, i am not buying 10k worth of coins at 25% less the market price just because you said so...No offense man , but your trust is 4...We work out an Escrow deal or it's the highway...If you think your word is worth $10k on this forum , well I'll say just this : "not to me" Put the money in an escrow trust and I am doing this...I am not moving one finger just because you said you'll buy all those coins...what you said and what you will do are 2 different things, so put your money where your mouth is and let's do this... You've already hijacked this thread, common sense tells me that we should PM , or at least open another thread which is on topic... P.S - Did you just gave me a negative feedback for no reason man ? Chill Robocop....Or better said : take a pill detective Mulder... You have a trust level of 4, and you dont wanna do escrow and you give me a negative feedback just because you think ? Well , I don't believe you think anything my friend...You are not capable of thinking..
|
|
|
|
|