GoldBits - Newbie scammer

[markj113]

Seen as Goldbits has locked his first thread and made his other a self moderated thread I thought I would raise the scammer here

Profile -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454486

Thread -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964758.0


Accusation -

Offering 1 X 1oz Gold Buffalo @ 4BTC about 20% under spot  

He is also very proficient at deleting posts from his thread he doesn't like  

Usual scammer profile applies -

Newbie member - check
No trade history - check
Refusing Escrow - check
Wants you to send 1st - check
No pics of goods on offer - check
Goods offered at amazing price - check

1 of 3 scenarios apply -

1) Either he doesnt have the coin full stop and its a scam.
2) He has one but has no intention of sending it so a scam.
3) He has a piss poor fake/copy hoping to pass it off as the real thing.

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[KWH]

There are a few other clues as well, such as this "newbie" knowing how start a moderated thread. Many "newbies" are really the same old scammers trying to burn someone. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

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Newbie selling gold below spot. Seems legit. Who are you using for escrow?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

He's lightening fast on the delete button Like a cowboy.

[Quickseller]

He's lightening fast on the delete button Like a cowboy.

He is very fast indeed. I even expressed interest in buying (with escrow) and he deleted it within a minute.

[markj113]

The idiot is still at it.

How does he even earn the money to buy the gold when he spends all day deleting posts from his scam thread.

This idiot needs banning.

Amazing how greed still draws people in even though its an obvious scam, human nature I suppose 

[the joint]

[xetsr]

Is he using a bot to delete posts or something? Posts are deleted within a minute, sometimes seconds. I tried  posting several times yesterday. Waste of time using that account anyway now that it's all red. Kind of hard to miss..

[hilariousandco]

Is he using a bot to delete posts or something? Posts are deleted within a minute, sometimes seconds. I tried  posting several times yesterday. Waste of time using that account anyway now that it's all red. Kind of hard to miss..

I think he might be. I don't see how he can be online all day and delete posts within well under a minute. He deleted my post to stop bumping the thread with seconds ha. Nobody is going to fall for this anyway.

Weird how he isn't deleting this guys posts:

will u selling me 1 gram bit? future will order more because i have proofs of you

and monies back guarante?

I wonder if he's using him to bump the threads? The last four posts of ManyProofs are in his threads.

[Quickseller]

I wonder if he's using him to bump the threads? The last four posts of ManyProofs are in his thread.

I reported his posts for making too many illegal bumps, and it looks like the various updates were consolidated into one post so someone probably said something to him about bumping too much.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are one and the same.

[AJRGale]

well, he doesn't want to come here and clear their name because "Sorry but I won't get involved in flame wars..." and also wants to know ".. If there is an official rule broken or someone who has lost money to me, then by all means point it out." (from PM'ing the person with: you have a accusation to clear https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964881.0 )

[xetsr]

Did he just waste an alt account or did someone really just send 4 BTC? 

[hilariousandco]

I don't believe this. Either very fishy or very stupid. He seems way too defensive and understanding of a newb:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964758.msg10559707#msg10559707

I'm sure he will "receive" the coin and profess what a great service the op offered and how he's totally legit. Then more gold will likely be sold this way.

[xetsr]

I don't believe this. Either very fishy or very stupid. He seems way too defensive and understanding of a newb:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964758.msg10559707#msg10559707

I'm sure he will "receive" the coin and profess what a great service the op offered and how he's totally legit. Then more gold will likely be sold this way.

Which is why nobody should remove the negative feedback that was left. There is something wrong here. Planned long term scam?

[hilariousandco]

I think a long con is very likely though I still don't think anyone would send him money first just based on that transaction (assuming the buyer is an alt).

[Quickseller]

I don't believe this. Either very fishy or very stupid. He seems way too defensive and understanding of a newb:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964758.msg10559707#msg10559707

I'm sure he will "receive" the coin and profess what a great service the op offered and how he's totally legit. Then more gold will likely be sold this way.

Which is why nobody should remove the negative feedback that was left. There is something wrong here. Planned long term scam?

it wouldn't need to even be that long term of a scam. The fact that there is a delay between the time payment is received means that he could potentially sell several "coins" before anyone says anything. It would only take a week or so to get a good amount of money.

It should be obvious that the person who bought the coin is somehow associated with the person selling. Anyone with any level of trading experience should know not to send first in this kind of transaction

[markj113]

Even if the sale was genuine and not a puppet account and he offers further coins at stupid prices I would not go near without escrow.

For what your paying - 20% or greater under spot I would also destructive test the gold to ensure there is no tungsten core hiding inside, you loose any coin premium but still a nice profit at melt value.

[Anixs]

SCAMMER WARNING

I think that poor guy lost his 4BTC

I noticed something VERY interesting this morning!!!  Someone posted this link: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2015-high-quality-Replica-custom-1_1926641179.html

When I refreshed the page, GoldBits already deleted it!! (can an admin recover the deleted post?)

Where am I going with this???  Well I have a RCM gold bar & can vouch that each one has a unique serial #.  But these fakes don't! (see the picture on alibaba.com)

Honest GoldBits taking a photo with his RCM bars for our assurance.. What a kind soul! But wait: NOTICE HOW ALL THE SERIAL NUMBERS ARE COVERED?

Amazing coincidence doncha think? 

[markj113]

SCAMMER WARNING

I think that poor guy lost his 4BTC

I noticed something VERY interesting this morning!!!  Someone posted this link: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2015-high-quality-Replica-custom-1_1926641179.html

When I refreshed the page, GoldBits already deleted it!! (can an admin recover the deleted post?)

Where am I going with this???  Well I have a RCM gold bar & can vouch that each one has a unique serial #.  But these fakes don't! (see the picture on alibaba.com)

Honest GoldBits taking a photo with his RCM bars for our assurance.. What a kind soul! But wait: NOTICE HOW ALL THE SERIAL NUMBERS ARE COVERED?

Amazing coincidence doncha think? 

The guy has delete hundreds of posts from his thread.

Fake bars can also come with serials some nice example of Pamp Suisse bars on google.

[hilariousandco]

Just post the messages here if you want but he was deleting most posts in that thread. The guy who he sold to is very likely an alt but the bars and coins could very well be fake. You can buy the fake gold bars on ebay easily enough.