[ANN][Pre-Launch][ICO][DAO] The 420 Alliance Joint Force Store

[djm34]

because fiat is totally free from the government?

and your point is ?

[MickGhee]

i like this because if u actually do it it will create crypto users which benefits us all

[djm34]

i like this because if u actually do it it will create crypto users which benefits us all

you mean slave ? 

[MickGhee]

no i mean the part where they educate customers in their shops

[Joint Force]

Im not here to hate... Im really interested..

But why do you need ICO btc?? In other words.. If you want to start a shop... Why do you need our btc? You are asking us to pay for your business? Whats in it for us besides the currencies you accept...? This way we need to pay you, before you accept other currencies then btc And at the same time we pay for your store and merchanise, which you are selling back to us for marijuana related cryptos?

I need to run an ICO for 4 reasons. #1 I do not have funds to rent a store and buy merchandise. #2 to allow a better distribution of coins (If I paid for everything = I get all the coin = not good). #3 to be transparent and reduce scams throughout all businesses. #4 to train new users to use crypto.

point 3, doesn't protect the user from dev abuse (which occured during most of the ICO of last year) actually this is a terrible argument...

ICOs have been used for many scams. This is sad.

I will research ziftrcoin to see what they are doing.

[Joint Force]

Im not here to hate... Im really interested..

But why do you need ICO btc?? In other words.. If you want to start a shop... Why do you need our btc? You are asking us to pay for your business? Whats in it for us besides the currencies you accept...? This way we need to pay you, before you accept other currencies then btc And at the same time we pay for your store and merchanise, which you are selling back to us for marijuana related cryptos?

I need to run an ICO for 4 reasons. #1 I do not have funds to rent a store and buy merchandise. #2 to allow a better distribution of coins (If I paid for everything = I get all the coin = not good). #3 to be transparent and reduce scams throughout all businesses. #4 to train new users to use crypto.

point 3, doesn't protect the user from dev abuse (which occured during most of the ICO of last year) actually this is a terrible argument...

ICOs have been used for many scams. This is sad.

I will research ziftrcoin to see what they are doing.

ziftrCOIN looks pretty amazing!

THE GATEWAY COIN TO MAINSTREAM CRYPTOCURRENCY ADOPTION
ziftrCOIN, the gateway coin to mainstream cryptocurrency adoption, aims to onboard the next 10 million cryptocurrency users by putting cryptocurrency into the hands of consumers and enabling them to conduct simple, secure transactions at their favorite online merchants.

It looks like ziftrCOIN ran an ICO. Do you know if they ran it all themselves?

TOTAL SOLD DURING OUR PRESALE:
https://www.ziftrcoin.com/presale/
4,141,444 ziftrCOINs
Value: $878,695* USD

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I think its possible for this 420 Alliance Joint Force to raise even more money!

If more people are interested in being public supporters we can try to raise more than the initial $90,000 goal and open 2 stores for 1 year.

[Joint Force]

Theres problems with ICO managment websites. They all suck in some form or another. They all want less transparency and large percentages of coins. Im going to have to put together something like ethereum did. It would be helpful to add in some public figures on a page like this: https://www.ethereum.org/team

Theres going to be a need for a vector graphic designer, 3d video creator/video editor and a social media person. In an effort to save money these people must be bitcoin and 420 enthusiasts. They will receive BTC as payment.

[P4ndoraBox7]

What do you need about the social media person ? 

[Joint Force]

What do you need about the social media person ?  

- Someone that knows how to target one city (Vancouver Canada)

- Someone that can work with the graphic designer to get pics posted/make pages.

- Someone that can make some posts viral enough that they get like 30+ Vancouver shares/comments/retweets making them come up for friends of friends to see that shit.

- Can manage as many social media sites as possible.

I have heard good things about: https://hootsuite.com , Something like hootsuite will be purchased with the funds.

*MOST IMPORTANT: Someone who will accept 2 BTC a month payment but do 4 BTC worth of work cause they love marijuana cryptocoins. (posting marijuana coin donation addresses for extra pay is fine)*

Is 2 BTC a month enough to manage something like this? I'm not sure how much effort something like this would take.

The whole point of the social media person is to get influential people to come to the store with groups of friends.

If you know more tricks than that and are reading this, then you can be part of the team.

[P4ndoraBox7]

Thank you very much.

I'll send you a PM in the next minutes to continue the conversation.

[fartbags]

Im not here to hate... Im really interested..

But why do you need ICO btc?? In other words.. If you want to start a shop... Why do you need our btc? You are asking us to pay for your business? Whats in it for us besides the currencies you accept...? This way we need to pay you, before you accept other currencies then btc And at the same time we pay for your store and merchanise, which you are selling back to us for marijuana related cryptos?

I need to run an ICO for 4 reasons. #1 I do not have funds to rent a store and buy merchandise. #2 to allow a better distribution of coins (If I paid for everything = I get all the coin = not good). #3 to be transparent and reduce scams throughout all businesses. #4 to train new users to use crypto.

point 3, doesn't protect the user from dev abuse (which occured during most of the ICO of last year) actually this is a terrible argument...

ICOs have been used for many scams. This is sad.

I'm helping @Joint Force on a way to prevent scams. My hope is that every business/charity/co-op/government will use cryptocoins so that they can prove they are not a scam.

[Joint Force]

I'm still thinking that the way money is going to be raised is by using this trade secret:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=963493.0

I'm going to be transparent with marketing and hopefully people can accept that this is currently how people raise money. I don't like it. It seems like a scam to me but it's just how it goes. There's going to be a 10% fee given to people who bring in investors. I will try looking at ways that people can quickly become "sales people" so they can make 10% back on what they invest. This will hopefully make everyone happy.

[Joint Force]

I'm still thinking that the way money is going to be raised is by using this trade secret:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=963493.0

I'm going to be transparent with marketing and hopefully people can accept that this is currently how people raise money. I don't like it. It seems like a scam to me but it's just how it goes. There's going to be a 10% fee given to people who bring in investors. I will try looking at ways that people can quickly become "sales people" so they can make 10% back on what they invest. This will hopefully make everyone happy.

Breaking News:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999166.0

In order to support Jyri Hovila (Visionary of The 420 Alliance Joint Force), I'm going to allow the option for Investors to either receive 10% back OR donate that 10% to Jyri Hovila.

[Joint Force]

I believe this idea is what people are calling a "DAO". It's a great idea that will create jobs. Crypto jobs!

[Joint Force]

In the mean time...

It would be helpful if anyone wants to go on https://alibaba.com and suggest products for sale at The 420 Alliance Joint Force.

Note: The bong/vape/pipe market is quite over saturated in Vancouver Canada. Only recommend the very best items in that category if you recommend those products. I don't see why the store has to sell any certain type of thing. I want to sell things that no other store has and that people want to buy.

Any product that someone has already sourced and knows the supplier would be a great help.

The product doesn't have to be from alibaba either. If someone has a connection, then I would love to sell a product from somewhere else.

I'm thinking a discounted Canadian hemp protein powder could be a popular seller if the right kind of people find out about it.

[Joint Force]

Testing the creation of Crypto Jobs.

It will be interesting to see which wouldve beeen more beneficial. Working for 1 year at minimum wage or working for 1 year for a payment of 20 BTC worth of weed niche coins at todays prices. I hope that I can prove working less than 8 hours a day at a crypto job is more beneficial than working 8+ hours a day at any minimum wage job. This would be world changing.

Wal-mart is currently winning the race to the bottom, but crypto could change that! We could undercut Wal-mart and create a new bottom by paying workers in crypto instead of $. No store that uses $ would be able to compete with a store using crypto.

[Hippie Tech]

Has anyone bothered to check fartbags' rep ? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=181645

[Joint Force]

Has anyone bothered to check fartbags' rep ? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=181645

I see two things from two different users.

kryptologist 0: -0 / +0(0)
chiznitz 0: -0 / +0(0)

Is that good or bad?

[Hippie Tech]

Has anyone bothered to check fartbags' rep ? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=181645

I see two things from two different users.

kryptologist 0: -0 / +0(0)
chiznitz 0: -0 / +0(0)

Is that good or bad?

Now try murderouskirk's rating. lolz  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942371.msg10324852#msg10324852

[fartbags]

Has anyone bothered to check fartbags' rep ? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=181645

I see two things from two different users.

kryptologist 0: -0 / +0(0)
chiznitz 0: -0 / +0(0)

Is that good or bad?

I have been calling out scams since 2013



Read hear about How I called out the "Instamine Scam" on mooncoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg4234827#msg4234827

I like to keep things clean.



I consider manual coin swaps to be scams.

I called out AeroMe as being a high risk manual coin swap scam. More info on what the "Manual Coin Swap Scam" can be read here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942371.0

In return they effected my reputation.


I have a problem with DopeCoin for doing it but have relaxed on them since they created http://info.dopecoin.com/coin_swap.php and said they will accept swaps forever.


The manual coin swap caused a lot of problems for CANN. CANN was, and possibly still is, in possession of over 14,000,000 unswapped CANN. The loss of transparency during the manual coinswap process causes this unknowing.





I'm in favor of all coin swaps being automatic and wallets being forward compatible.

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For your safety,


The following guidelines should always be followed when performing a coinswap.

Transparent Coin Swap Guidelines
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880220.0

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@Joint Force, please end this conversation on this thread if it continues further.