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[marioantonini]

When i have low amount of satoshi and click to "max bet" appared error "insoufficient balance".
Example, i have 0,00000018 satoshi and click max, bet is 18 satoshi, but i can bet only 17

[dadice]

everyone aware of that kind of troll account who just created for that purpose because they are afraid to see the current awesome growth and success of dadice, these kind of person are just crap and nobody care about them.

Its probably just Pocketrocketcasino who commented on here before. No one else will create a new account and not post from their original one.

Right! Thank you ShetKid.

But that doesn't change the fact that you are right to not share your investment wallet address. You guys likely without sharing it are going to hurt yourself .

No it wont. DaDice is not build around investments. That is a tiny part of what dadice is all about. I am even tempted to disable investment for 6 months or a year....

[Quickseller]

Plus they are having a scammer represent them and paying a scammer to advertise for them. This only strengthens concerns that DaDice is in fact a scam. Why else would they hire a scammer to advertise for them if they were not planning on scamming themselves?

Sorry mate, if you don't mind can you shed some light on what this is all about - since I have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks!

Scammer's profile link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138744
They are being allowed to participate in your signature campaign even though he received negative trust and is a scammer.
Refrence thread1 shows where the scammer had scammed. Refrence post1 shows how it is impossible for the scammer to make the conclusion that he did not in fact scam. Refrence thread2 is where the scammer attempted to bully me into removing the negative rating. Additionally he has been trolling me for well over a month now because of the negative rating that I left him.

As long as he is a paid representative/advertiser of your site I would personally consider your site to be untrustworthy.

[dadice]

When i have low amount of satoshi and click to "max bet" appared error "insoufficient balance".
Example, i have 0,00000018 satoshi and click max, bet is 18 satoshi, but i can bet only 17

Yes that is a rounding issue mate. Already on our to-list and will be sorted soon.

Let me explain: Our system is working with 12 decimals, bitcoin only with 8. So if your actual balance is 0,000000175100 for example it will be rounded up to 0,00000018.

[RHavar]

As a matter of fact the investor came to our public chat to discuss his concerns and that it was witnessed by many other members. The reason behind the investors statements: Privacy concerns

If this is something you need help with, I'd be happy to offer my assistance. I would be able to waive the typical 1% fee on our cold address service (that will guarantee you get unrelated coins back) for the first 300 BTC. If your major investor is concerned about privacy, I would advice that you do mix the coins sooner rather than later as if you have a big withdrawal you will likely need to source his investment to pay for it.

[dadice]

Plus they are having a scammer represent them and paying a scammer to advertise for them. This only strengthens concerns that DaDice is in fact a scam. Why else would they hire a scammer to advertise for them if they were not planning on scamming themselves?

Sorry mate, if you don't mind can you shed some light on what this is all about - since I have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks!

Scammer's profile link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138744
They are being allowed to participate in your signature campaign even though he received negative trust and is a scammer.
Refrence thread1 shows where the scammer had scammed. Refrence post1 shows how it is impossible for the scammer to make the conclusion that he did not in fact scam. Refrence thread2 is where the scammer attempted to bully me into removing the negative rating. Additionally he has been trolling me for well over a month now because of the negative rating that I left him.

As long as he is a paid representative/advertiser of your site I would personally consider your site to be untrustworthy.

Well he is one of our signature campaign participants, not a representative of dadice. We are also well aware that you have a personal vendetta with him.

[NLNico]

list of addresses that are known to belong to dadice

address that has a high probability of belonging to DaDice.

After a quick look at the transaction histories, there are no other obvious wallets and/or addresses that belong to DaDice.

Neither of the above have ever had a significant balance
It should also be noted that DaDice chooses to be affiliated with a known scammer and chooses to use a known scammer to advertise for them. Based on this I would certainly question their ethics.

the second link (1HmA...) is their hot wallet.

you also missed this adress I think https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

should be one of those single investor cold storages.

I looked at the address published on their signature campaign thread (the one controlled by devthedev) and it looks like it is funded by this address which has inputs from this address, this shows nothing however that address has inputs from this address which spent funds to both the previous address and an address linked to blackbankmarket which is a dark market site. It could be a consequence however if you go back two more transactions then you find this address which also sent funds to blackbankmarket. Going back further, there are addresses that sent funds to bitcoin fog multiple times, and it eventually traces back to localbiitcoins. Looking at the other address that sent funds to the address that funds the escrow address, only a few hops go back to LBC.

This makes me conclude one of two things, one that DaDice is potentially associated with blackbankmarket or two that they are going to great lengths to hide their source of funds.

Edit: how do you know that belongs to DaDice?

Interesting. Yeh the sig escrow addy is https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/8379764fd173ff82 and this has been funded by (must be all in control of DaDice!):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/530ca0f7083ee47f
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/DaDice.com
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/186737e657cfc1c7
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/e341c2059ee65039
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/6a37977cce57e5f0

In theory that wallet e341c2059ee65039 can be a deposit address of DaDice though (so player deposited 10 coins and they used it to fill signature campaign funds.) It is definitely clear that the player funds go directly to the sig escrow at least. This can be okay if they had this 540 coin cold wallet, but now it is obviously concerning since we do not know if they are solvent. Actually it looks like they have only a 2 figure bitcoin amount - all connected addresses get relatively small amounts and deposits are going straight to signature campaign and withdrawals. No wonder they don't want to show a cold wallet.

The first filling of sig coins was obviously not yet from players since site was brand new. The first 8 coins were from: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/25310a847341f5b1 (first 8 coin in 530ca0f7083ee47f) One of the sources is "EvolutionMarket" and some other like Bitstamp.net, Bit-x.com, LB. It's pretty interesting to withdraw from several sites (including a dark market) if you got 500 coins, just to scrape that 8 coins together, but okay.

1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS is indeed part of DaDice wallet and cold wallet of that user. But walletexplorer is ~11 blocks behind so didn't update this yet.


Cool site that walletexplorer.com

[ndnh]

Plus they are having a scammer represent them and paying a scammer to advertise for them. This only strengthens concerns that DaDice is in fact a scam. Why else would they hire a scammer to advertise for them if they were not planning on scamming themselves?

Sorry mate, if you don't mind can you shed some light on what this is all about - since I have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks!

Scammer's profile link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138744
They are being allowed to participate in your signature campaign even though he received negative trust and is a scammer.
Refrence thread1 shows where the scammer had scammed. Refrence post1 shows how it is impossible for the scammer to make the conclusion that he did not in fact scam. Refrence thread2 is where the scammer attempted to bully me into removing the negative rating. Additionally he has been trolling me for well over a month now because of the negative rating that I left him.

As long as he is a paid representative/advertiser of your site I would personally consider your site to be untrustworthy.

We have already investigated into it. And I don't really think he should be removed from the campaign because of that singular issue you have mentioned.

The trust is not valid as per the current rules. And I don't think I am not the only one (nor dadice or other representatives/moderators of Da Dice) that say he shouldn't be allowed to participate in the campaign.

Dunno what that has to do with you trusting the site

Anyway, lol, not feeling like arguing here..


Edit: I get the impression that you are taking your personal opinion to such extent

[dadice]

list of addresses that are known to belong to dadice

address that has a high probability of belonging to DaDice.

After a quick look at the transaction histories, there are no other obvious wallets and/or addresses that belong to DaDice.

Neither of the above have ever had a significant balance
It should also be noted that DaDice chooses to be affiliated with a known scammer and chooses to use a known scammer to advertise for them. Based on this I would certainly question their ethics.

the second link (1HmA...) is their hot wallet.

you also missed this adress I think https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

should be one of those single investor cold storages.

I looked at the address published on their signature campaign thread (the one controlled by devthedev) and it looks like it is funded by this address which has inputs from this address, this shows nothing however that address has inputs from this address which spent funds to both the previous address and an address linked to blackbankmarket which is a dark market site. It could be a consequence however if you go back two more transactions then you find this address which also sent funds to blackbankmarket. Going back further, there are addresses that sent funds to bitcoin fog multiple times, and it eventually traces back to localbiitcoins. Looking at the other address that sent funds to the address that funds the escrow address, only a few hops go back to LBC.

This makes me conclude one of two things, one that DaDice is potentially associated with blackbankmarket or two that they are going to great lengths to hide their source of funds.

Edit: how do you know that belongs to DaDice?

Interesting. Yeh the sig escrow addy is https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/8379764fd173ff82 and this has been funded by (must be all in control of DaDice!):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/530ca0f7083ee47f
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/DaDice.com
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/186737e657cfc1c7
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/e341c2059ee65039
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/6a37977cce57e5f0

In theory that wallet e341c2059ee65039 can be a deposit address of DaDice though (so player deposited 10 coins and they used it to fill signature campaign funds.) It is definitely clear that the player funds go directly to the sig escrow at least. This can be okay if they had this 540 coin cold wallet, but now it is obviously concerning since we do not know if they are solvent. Actually it looks like they have only a 2 figure bitcoin amount - all connected addresses get relatively small amounts and deposits are going straight to signature campaign and withdrawals. No wonder they don't want to show a cold wallet.

The first filling of sig coins was obviously not yet from players since site was brand new. The first 8 coins were from: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/25310a847341f5b1 (first 8 coin in 530ca0f7083ee47f) One of the sources is "EvolutionMarket" and some other like Bitstamp.net, Bit-x.com, LB. It's pretty interesting to withdraw from several sites (including a dark market) if you got 500 coins, just to scrape that 8 coins together, but okay.

1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS is indeed part of DaDice wallet and cold wallet of that user. But walletexplorer is ~11 blocks behind so didn't update this yet.


Cool site that walletexplorer.com

Well, actually the sig campaign address was never funded from any our receiving wallets. You don't even have a clue on which address we will receive the next deposit...  But continue with your nonsense, I have popcorn ready to read your interesting comments.

[dadice]

We have already investigated into it. And I don't really think he should be removed from the campaign because of that singular issue you have mentioned.

The trust is not valid as per the current rules. And I don't think I am not the only one (nor dadice or other representatives/moderators of Da Dice) that say he shouldn't be allowed to participate in the campaign.

Dunno what that has to do with you trusting the site

Anyway, lol, not feeling like arguing here..

Well mate, they have a hidden agenda, it's obvious, isn't it 

[marcotheminer]

Solution: be transparent.

Also the way you (dadice) address or will address concerns from players and investors will say a lot about you and your site.

[dadice]

Solution: be transparent.

Also the way you (dadice) address or will address concerns from players and investors will say a lot about you and your site.

Well, your agenda is very well known, you tried twice to hijack our campaign away from ndnhc. Must I post our Skype conversations here

Also your trust level is awesome, wondering why any serious company would let you run their campaign.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Too much hate and arguing going on in this thread today.
Seriously Da Dice is a great site, the staff & admin are really helpful.
Not sure how many times it has to be said but NOBODY has been scammed by Da Dice.
As for Quickseller & the poster in question I don't know or want to know anything about their feud but it's got nothing to do with the legitimacy or trustworthiness of Da Dice.
That poster is part of Da Dice's signature campaign, he has no control over Da Dice funds, no control over their site & quite frankly questioning Da Dice over that is ridiculous.
He's in their sig campaign, what has that got to do with anything?

Nothing to see here - Let's all move along.

[dadice]

Too much hate and arguing going on in this thread today.
Seriously Da Dice is a great site, the staff & admin are really helpful.
Not sure how many times it has to be said but NOBODY has been scammed by Da Dice.
As for Quickseller & the poster in question I don't know or want to know anything about their feud but it's got nothing to do with the legitimacy or trustworthiness of Da Dice.
That poster is part of Da Dice's signature campaign, he has no control over Da Dice funds, no control over their site & quite frankly questioning Da Dice over that is ridiculous.
He's in their sig campaign, what has that got to do with anything?

Nothing to see here - Let's all move along.

Well mate, the problem is that there is a jealous competitor, who suddenly saw their hopes being swept away by dadice and now they are trying hard to play dirty instead of minding their own business. Nothing we can do - but it's amusing, since it doesn't hurt us at all

[NLNico]

No hate at all. Just a 100% valid concern, they are the only dice site w/ investments and w/o public cold address.

I consider the whole story as a public attack.

LOL.

Your own site says:

Do you have proof of solvency?

90% of the coins are held in one cold storage address which will be displayed to our members, thereby allowing for full transparency to all of DaDice members.

And then when I start asking about the actual cold storage address, which is not an attack at all - a completely valid request, you come up with several bad excuses:

- Need more investments first. WRONG.
- Other sites also don't have it. WRONG.
- It's impossible because of kelly investments. WRONG.
- This investor is asking to not show it. WRONG.
- We show solvency by private cold addresses. WRONG.

I have given a lot of valid arguments and proof for each bad excuse.

And now the conclusion is "I consider the whole story as a public attack". Lol.

Well... situation seems pretty obvious to me...

They claim that it is because of the "largest investor". Note that DaDice still haven't replied to this:

1.

Your "largest investor" excuse is a complete joke. First of all by just putting 90% of the funds in 1 address, you are not necessarily giving out information of this investor. Secondly, since you claim to still own more than 90% of the funds, you can simply move only your own funds to 1 cold address and this "big investor" is not even included(!!)

5. Getting privacy for this situation is dead easy and cheap. Just deposit and withdraw from a known bitcoin exchange. Costs the investor 0.0002 BTC and few minutes of time.

The only reason why DaDice doesn't show their 500 bitcoins (that they claim to have -themselves- not from investors!), is because they do not have it. "Largest investor" has nothing to do with it, because they can just show their OWN funds only, still they won't.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Why would a site scam people for a couple of hundred bitcoin or whatever is held on a site at one time when said site can earn themselves thousands of bitcoin over a number of years.
That's the question you ask if you're questioning a site.
Some brand new sites may scam that have cheap websites etc.
Da Dice is a good site & they've put a lot of time, effort & money into it.
To scam and run off with coins at this point in time would be counter productive.
I'm done on this subject any way.

[Quickseller]

Plus they are having a scammer represent them and paying a scammer to advertise for them. This only strengthens concerns that DaDice is in fact a scam. Why else would they hire a scammer to advertise for them if they were not planning on scamming themselves?

Sorry mate, if you don't mind can you shed some light on what this is all about - since I have no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks!

Scammer's profile link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138744
They are being allowed to participate in your signature campaign even though he received negative trust and is a scammer.
Refrence thread1 shows where the scammer had scammed. Refrence post1 shows how it is impossible for the scammer to make the conclusion that he did not in fact scam. Refrence thread2 is where the scammer attempted to bully me into removing the negative rating. Additionally he has been trolling me for well over a month now because of the negative rating that I left him.

As long as he is a paid representative/advertiser of your site I would personally consider your site to be untrustworthy.

We have already investigated into it. And I don't really think he should be removed from the campaign because of that singular issue you have mentioned.

The trust is not valid as per the current rules. And I don't think I am not the only one (nor dadice or other representatives/moderators of Da Dice) that say he shouldn't be allowed to participate in the campaign.

Dunno what that has to do with you trusting the site

Anyway, lol, not feeling like arguing here..


Edit: I get the impression that you are taking your personal opinion to such extent

At this point he is literally getting paid by DaDice to troll me consistently. This is absolutely unacceptable regardless of if he is a scammer. It is not my fault that I found out that he scammed and there is no reason why I should be subject to such trolling. Every time that a trolling post is made, it is paid for by DaDice, and every time someone reads it, everyone will see a DaDice advertisement under it.

All scammers will receive negative trust after one incident of scamming and most scammers can only scam once because once they do they receive a trade with extreme caution tag.

If DaDice is willing to pay for someone to troll someone then I can only imagine what other unethical things they would be willing to do.

[marcotheminer]

Solution: be transparent.

Also the way you (dadice) address or will address concerns from players and investors will say a lot about you and your site.

Well, your agenda is very well known, you tried twice to hijack our campaign away from ndnhc. Must I post our Skype conversations here

Also your trust level is awesome, wondering why any serious company would let you run their campaign.

I was stating something that most companies should (or already do) know. Not starting yet another argument.

[NLNico]

Why would a site scam people for a couple of hundred bitcoin or whatever is held on a site at one time when said site can earn themselves thousands of bitcoin over a number of years.
That's the question you ask if you're questioning a site.
Some brand new sites may scam that have cheap websites etc.
Da Dice is a good site & they've put a lot of time, effort & money into it.
To scam and run off with coins at this point in time would be counter productive.
I'm done on this subject any way.

You are wrong.

dice.ninja was also technically a very good website and also had signature campaigns etc. They scammed for 2000+ bitcoins. Dicebitco.in also scammed while having a technically great site and good campaigns. There are much more examples of dice sites that have scammed. The fact that they put time and money in it -definitely- does not prove anything as history has shown us.

However a single public cold address, that takes an hour to set up and is basically free to do so... DOES prove that they are at least solvent. Although this is not proof that they will not scam, at least they show they have the coins they claim to have. Why are they unable to do this simple thing that all dice sites do?

[dadice]

No hate at all. Just a 100% valid concern, they are the only dice site w/ investments and w/o public cold address.

I consider the whole story as a public attack.

LOL.

Your own site says:

Do you have proof of solvency?

90% of the coins are held in one cold storage address which will be displayed to our members, thereby allowing for full transparency to all of DaDice members.

And then when I start asking about the actual cold storage address, which is not an attack at all - a completely valid request, you come up with several bad excuses:

- Need more investments first. WRONG.
- Other sites also don't have it. WRONG.
- It's impossible because of kelly investments. WRONG.
- This investor is asking to not show it. WRONG.
- We show solvency by private cold addresses. WRONG.

I have given a lot of valid arguments and proof for each bad excuse.

And now the conclusion is "I consider the whole story as a public attack". Lol.

Well... situation seems pretty obvious to me...

They claim that it is because of the "largest investor". Note that DaDice still haven't replied to this:

1.

Your "largest investor" excuse is a complete joke. First of all by just putting 90% of the funds in 1 address, you are not necessarily giving out information of this investor. Secondly, since you claim to still own more than 90% of the funds, you can simply move only your own funds to 1 cold address and this "big investor" is not even included(!!)

5. Getting privacy for this situation is dead easy and cheap. Just deposit and withdraw from a known bitcoin exchange. Costs the investor 0.0002 BTC and few minutes of time.

The only reason why DaDice doesn't show their 500 bitcoins (that they claim to have -themselves- not from investors!), is because they do not have it. "Largest investor" has nothing to do with it, because they can just show their OWN funds only, still they won't.

Well, why should we? Others much larger than us refuse this all the time as well.....