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I do see how this coin can compete with currencies like DASH and SDC in terms of anonymity at this time. Unless there are more anonymity features planned for the future i do not see how the anonymity in CRAVE is competitive. Since duel key stealth addresses by themselves are not a particularly strong form of anonymity, SDC for example has many layers build on top of the duel key stealth addresses, by using zerocash style creation and destruction of tokens, whereas DASH uses coinjoin style mixers for example, I do not see any great innovation in terms of anonymity with CRAVE, furthermore the anonymity features that are implemented do not seem to be able to compete with other anonymous cryptocurrencies like SDC, DASH and XMR for example.
Are you serious? Or are you just a traditional SDC troll? CRAVE is much better than dark/dash, and shadow is a joke. Here everything that was in roadmap 1 was delivered in 2 weeks. On shadow thread you have just pretty pics and videos. You really believe in that market made on photoshop? Have you ever thought about how the anon system of shadow works? It's almost the same thing as you exchange your sdc for monero (ring signatures), then the receiver must sell monero and buy back sdc. So why use shadow? Use just monero or other cryptonote (ring signatures) or better, use crave Just remembering: CRAVE is the first anon colored coin with dark markets on blockchain and masternodes Anyone will can create their own darkmarket within blockchain if have 10,000 crave. Each crave can be burned for blur, which is an anon colored coin to be used in these markets. 1 crave = 5 blur. Only 520k coins and this number should decrease, as many will be burned for blur and other used to create markets and masternodes. These are some interesting insights thank you for helping me understand, to be fair this is not explained in the OP and I could not find a whitepaper. As far as I understand it though compared to these other anonymous cryptocurrencies CRAVE does not have any anonymity features in terms of anonymous transactions other then the duel key stealth addresses which by themselves are an inadequate anonymity solution. I do not understand how that could possibly be better then its competitors. Furthermore you say that people can create their own dark market within blockchain, is that even desirable considering that this is a completely transparent blockchain? I also do not understand why you would want to send transaction across tor network when the Bitcoin network itself does not record IP addresses, granted there are some advantages to run it across tor, however if you did this then you might as well run it across I2P network anyway since that would be superior. So there are colored coins for these markets but without ring signatures or mixers or some other anonymity solution I do not understand how this could possibly be better then all of the other projects you have mentioned. I also find it a bit ironic that you describe SDC as being a joke considering how much the two projects actually have in common. Furthermore you say that CRAVE is also much better then DASH, however as far as I understand it these CRAVE masternodes do not perform any specialized functions within the network like DASH does, therefore I do not understand why they even need to exist. I could be mistaken in my assessment of this project but I am finding it difficult finding in depth information about CRAVE so please correct me if am wrong about anything that I am saying.
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Johal8888
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April 10, 2015, 12:01:39 AM |
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I do see how this coin can compete with currencies like DASH and SDC in terms of anonymity at this time. Unless there are more anonymity features planned for the future i do not see how the anonymity in CRAVE is competitive. Since duel key stealth addresses by themselves are not a particularly strong form of anonymity, SDC for example has many layers build on top of the duel key stealth addresses, by using zerocash style creation and destruction of tokens, whereas DASH uses coinjoin style mixers for example, I do not see any great innovation in terms of anonymity with CRAVE, furthermore the anonymity features that are implemented do not seem to be able to compete with other anonymous cryptocurrencies like SDC, DASH and XMR for example.
Are you serious? Or are you just a traditional SDC troll? CRAVE is much better than dark/dash, and shadow is a joke. Here everything that was in roadmap 1 was delivered in 2 weeks. On shadow thread you have just pretty pics and videos. You really believe in that market made on photoshop? Have you ever thought about how the anon system of shadow works? It's almost the same thing as you exchange your sdc for monero (ring signatures), then the receiver must sell monero and buy back sdc. So why use shadow? Use just monero or other cryptonote (ring signatures) or better, use crave Just remembering: CRAVE is the first anon colored coin with dark markets on blockchain and masternodes Anyone will can create their own darkmarket within blockchain if have 10,000 crave. Each crave can be burned for blur, which is an anon colored coin to be used in these markets. 1 crave = 5 blur. Only 520k coins and this number should decrease, as many will be burned for blur and other used to create markets and masternodes. These are some interesting insights thank you for helping me understand, to be fair this is not explained in the OP and I could not find a whitepaper. As far as I understand it though compared to these other anonymous cryptocurrencies CRAVE does not have any anonymity features in terms of anonymous transactions other then the duel key stealth addresses which by themselves are an inadequate anonymity solution. I do not understand how that could possibly be better then its competitors. Furthermore you say that people can create their own dark market within blockchain, is that even desirable considering that this is a completely transparent blockchain? I also do not understand why you would want to send transaction across tor network when the Bitcoin network itself does not record IP addresses, granted there are some advantages to run it across tor, however if you did this then you might as well run it across I2P network anyway since that would be superior. So there are colored coins for these markets but without ring signatures or mixers or some other anonymity solution I do not understand how this could possibly be better then all of the other projects you have mentioned. I also find it a bit ironic that you describe SDC as being a joke considering how much the two projects actually have in common. Furthermore you say that CRAVE is also much better then DASH, however as far as I understand it these CRAVE masternodes do not perform any specialized functions within the network like DASH does, therefore I do not understand why they even need to exist. I could be mistaken in my assessment of this project but I am finding it difficult finding in depth information about CRAVE so please correct me if am wrong about anything that I am saying. the masternodes are to trap people when the Major dump comes
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April 10, 2015, 12:04:50 AM |
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I do see how this coin can compete with currencies like DASH and SDC in terms of anonymity at this time. Unless there are more anonymity features planned for the future i do not see how the anonymity in CRAVE is competitive. Since duel key stealth addresses by themselves are not a particularly strong form of anonymity, SDC for example has many layers build on top of the duel key stealth addresses, by using zerocash style creation and destruction of tokens, whereas DASH uses coinjoin style mixers for example, I do not see any great innovation in terms of anonymity with CRAVE, furthermore the anonymity features that are implemented do not seem to be able to compete with other anonymous cryptocurrencies like SDC, DASH and XMR for example.
Are you serious? Or are you just a traditional SDC troll? CRAVE is much better than dark/dash, and shadow is a joke. Here everything that was in roadmap 1 was delivered in 2 weeks. On shadow thread you have just pretty pics and videos. You really believe in that market made on photoshop? Have you ever thought about how the anon system of shadow works? It's almost the same thing as you exchange your sdc for monero (ring signatures), then the receiver must sell monero and buy back sdc. So why use shadow? Use just monero or other cryptonote (ring signatures) or better, use crave Just remembering: CRAVE is the first anon colored coin with dark markets on blockchain and masternodes Anyone will can create their own darkmarket within blockchain if have 10,000 crave. Each crave can be burned for blur, which is an anon colored coin to be used in these markets. 1 crave = 5 blur. Only 520k coins and this number should decrease, as many will be burned for blur and other used to create markets and masternodes. These are some interesting insights thank you for helping me understand, to be fair this is not explained in the OP and I could not find a whitepaper. As far as I understand it though compared to these other anonymous cryptocurrencies CRAVE does not have any anonymity features in terms of anonymous transactions other then the duel key stealth addresses which by themselves are an inadequate anonymity solution. I do not understand how that could possibly be better then its competitors. Furthermore you say people can create their own dark market within blockchain, is that even desirable considering that this is a completely transparent blockchain? I also do not understand why you would want to send transaction across tor network when the Bitcoin network itself does not record IP addresses, granted there are some advantages to run it across tor, however if you did this then you might as well run it across I2P network anyway since that would be superior. So there are colored coins for these markets but without ring signatures or mixers or some other anonymity solution I do not understand how this could possibly be better then all of the other projects you have mentioned. I also find it a bit ironic that you describe SDC as being a joke considering how much the two projects actually have in common. Furthermore you say that CRAVE is also much better then DASH, however as far as I understand it these CRAVE masternodes do not perform any specialized functions within the network like DASH does, therefore I do not understand why they even need to exist. I could be mistaken in my assessment of this project but I am finding it difficult finding in depth information about CRAVE so please correct me if am wrong about anything that I am saying. my thoughts the same. just so you know i am holding am deciding when to sell. the coin is known for its master node known and payouts. the rest is just being hyped alongside the rise. crave is not on sdc or dash level. to me it seems coin was built to pump. if you were around when it was 50k you would know. 270 pages of mostly cheer leading. another coin will just build a coin with master nodes with attractive payout and then everyone will rush to that im enjoying the rise here that the master nodes are causing.
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April 10, 2015, 12:08:48 AM |
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I do see how this coin can compete with currencies like DASH and SDC in terms of anonymity at this time. Unless there are more anonymity features planned for the future i do not see how the anonymity in CRAVE is competitive. Since duel key stealth addresses by themselves are not a particularly strong form of anonymity, SDC for example has many layers build on top of the duel key stealth addresses, by using zerocash style creation and destruction of tokens, whereas DASH uses coinjoin style mixers for example, I do not see any great innovation in terms of anonymity with CRAVE, furthermore the anonymity features that are implemented do not seem to be able to compete with other anonymous cryptocurrencies like SDC, DASH and XMR for example.
Are you serious? Or are you just a traditional SDC troll? CRAVE is much better than dark/dash, and shadow is a joke. Here everything that was in roadmap 1 was delivered in 2 weeks. On shadow thread you have just pretty pics and videos. You really believe in that market made on photoshop? Have you ever thought about how the anon system of shadow works? It's almost the same thing as you exchange your sdc for monero (ring signatures), then the receiver must sell monero and buy back sdc. So why use shadow? Use just monero or other cryptonote (ring signatures) or better, use crave Just remembering: CRAVE is the first anon colored coin with dark markets on blockchain and masternodes Anyone will can create their own darkmarket within blockchain if have 10,000 crave. Each crave can be burned for blur, which is an anon colored coin to be used in these markets. 1 crave = 5 blur. Only 520k coins and this number should decrease, as many will be burned for blur and other used to create markets and masternodes. These are some interesting insights thank you for helping me understand, to be fair this is not explained in the OP and I could not find a whitepaper. As far as I understand it though compared to these other anonymous cryptocurrencies CRAVE does not have any anonymity features in terms of anonymous transactions other then the duel key stealth addresses which by themselves are an inadequate anonymity solution. I do not understand how that could possibly be better then its competitors. Furthermore you say people can create their own dark market within blockchain, is that even desirable considering that this is a completely transparent blockchain? I also do not understand why you would want to send transaction across tor network when the Bitcoin network itself does not record IP addresses, granted there are some advantages to run it across tor, however if you did this then you might as well run it across I2P network anyway since that would be superior. So there are colored coins for these markets but without ring signatures or mixers or some other anonymity solution I do not understand how this could possibly be better then all of the other projects you have mentioned. I also find it a bit ironic that you describe SDC as being a joke considering how much the two projects actually have in common. Furthermore you say that CRAVE is also much better then DASH, however as far as I understand it these CRAVE masternodes do not perform any specialized functions within the network like DASH does, therefore I do not understand why they even need to exist. I could be mistaken in my assessment of this project but I am finding it difficult finding in depth information about CRAVE so please correct me if am wrong about anything that I am saying. my thoughts the same. just so you know i am holding am deciding when to sell. the coin is known for its master node known and payouts. the rest is just being hyped alongside the rise. crave is not on sdc or dash level. to me it seems coin was built to pump. if you were around when it was 50k you would know. 270 pages of mostly cheer leading. another coin will just build a coin with master nodes with attractive payout and then everyone will rush to that im enjoying the rise here that the master nodes are causing. Only if that is as far as the dev is willing to go. The dev has more plans and delivering on them which will put Crave in it's own category. Think about the timeline so far and how long it took the other coins to achieve what they have.
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Yaremi
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April 10, 2015, 12:12:33 AM |
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SDC trolls ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I go to thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745352.0This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. no thanks. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 10, 2015, 12:12:50 AM |
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I do see how this coin can compete with currencies like DASH and SDC in terms of anonymity at this time. Unless there are more anonymity features planned for the future i do not see how the anonymity in CRAVE is competitive. Since duel key stealth addresses by themselves are not a particularly strong form of anonymity, SDC for example has many layers build on top of the duel key stealth addresses, by using zerocash style creation and destruction of tokens, whereas DASH uses coinjoin style mixers for example, I do not see any great innovation in terms of anonymity with CRAVE, furthermore the anonymity features that are implemented do not seem to be able to compete with other anonymous cryptocurrencies like SDC, DASH and XMR for example.
Are you serious? Or are you just a traditional SDC troll? CRAVE is much better than dark/dash, and shadow is a joke. Here everything that was in roadmap 1 was delivered in 2 weeks. On shadow thread you have just pretty pics and videos. You really believe in that market made on photoshop? Have you ever thought about how the anon system of shadow works? It's almost the same thing as you exchange your sdc for monero (ring signatures), then the receiver must sell monero and buy back sdc. So why use shadow? Use just monero or other cryptonote (ring signatures) or better, use crave Just remembering: CRAVE is the first anon colored coin with dark markets on blockchain and masternodes Anyone will can create their own darkmarket within blockchain if have 10,000 crave. Each crave can be burned for blur, which is an anon colored coin to be used in these markets. 1 crave = 5 blur. Only 520k coins and this number should decrease, as many will be burned for blur and other used to create markets and masternodes. These are some interesting insights thank you for helping me understand, to be fair this is not explained in the OP and I could not find a whitepaper. As far as I understand it though compared to these other anonymous cryptocurrencies CRAVE does not have any anonymity features in terms of anonymous transactions other then the duel key stealth addresses which by themselves are an inadequate anonymity solution. I do not understand how that could possibly be better then its competitors. Furthermore you say people can create their own dark market within blockchain, is that even desirable considering that this is a completely transparent blockchain? I also do not understand why you would want to send transaction across tor network when the Bitcoin network itself does not record IP addresses, granted there are some advantages to run it across tor, however if you did this then you might as well run it across I2P network anyway since that would be superior. So there are colored coins for these markets but without ring signatures or mixers or some other anonymity solution I do not understand how this could possibly be better then all of the other projects you have mentioned. I also find it a bit ironic that you describe SDC as being a joke considering how much the two projects actually have in common. Furthermore you say that CRAVE is also much better then DASH, however as far as I understand it these CRAVE masternodes do not perform any specialized functions within the network like DASH does, therefore I do not understand why they even need to exist. I could be mistaken in my assessment of this project but I am finding it difficult finding in depth information about CRAVE so please correct me if am wrong about anything that I am saying. my thoughts the same. just so you know i am holding am deciding when to sell. the coin is known for its master node known and payouts. the rest is just being hyped alongside the rise. crave is not on sdc or dash level. to me it seems coin was built to pump. if you were around when it was 50k you would know. 270 pages of mostly cheer leading. another coin will just build a coin with master nodes with attractive payout and then everyone will rush to that im enjoying the rise here that the master nodes are causing. Only if that is as far as the dev is willing to go. The dev has more plans and delivering on them which will put Crave in it's own category. Think about the timeline so far and how long it took the other coins to achieve what they have. give it some time youl see the next fad masternodes
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April 10, 2015, 12:15:10 AM |
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This is a train you can't stop.
The dev, the idea, the tech its just better already and its only just started.
Crave is over 1 dollar a coin and holding with a solid backbone of holders and 12% already locked away in masternodes. Pump and Dump? um no! People in early already made their money back! Now its long term.
Next stop 5 dollars.
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Yaremi
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April 10, 2015, 12:16:29 AM |
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This is a train you can't stop.
The dev, the idea, the tech its just better already and its only just started.
Crave is over 1 dollar a coin and holding with a solid backbone of holders and 12% already locked away in masternodes. Pump and Dump? um no! People in early already made their money back! Now its long term.
Next stop 5 dollars.
Totally agree. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 10, 2015, 12:17:43 AM |
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Nearly 1000btc vol on trex in 24hrs!!!!!
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April 10, 2015, 12:20:26 AM |
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Some news from onion. One admin will be try crave for market ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So he wait for market technology I have a great communication to the onion ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We'll see who wins.
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April 10, 2015, 12:23:44 AM |
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Bitcoin - Blockchain 1.0 (2009) Ethereum - Blockchain 2.0 (2015) Partisia - Blockchain 3.0 (2021)
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April 10, 2015, 12:25:20 AM |
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SCAMALERT BOB SURPLUS PUMP THE OWN 60% OF COINS
hahaha award for worst fud attempt
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April 10, 2015, 12:25:50 AM |
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5O 5O 5O hurry run nga Brand new ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 10, 2015, 12:26:07 AM |
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i'm definitely not confident of the coins future but its a coin you wanna be in until the music stops
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April 10, 2015, 12:30:09 AM |
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Alot of people here realize it has no future but are trying to add to the pump. Just time your sells
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April 10, 2015, 12:41:32 AM |
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If you want to invest in a coin that is making good on its promises take a look at Bitbay! It's about to release the first ever decentrAlized market. It's in week 3 of Beta currently and all looks good! Will be getting pegged to the dollar very soon also. Price will rocket in the next few months. It's not built on hype or promises, it's a coin with a function other than just buying and selling on trading sites. A decentralised ebay! It will be huge!
first first Ha-ha. Next, bitshares, and more have decentrAlized market. Yes FIRST!! No. first decentrAlized market in NXT.
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April 10, 2015, 12:51:06 AM |
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Devs are unloading this Crave shitcoin with the speed of light. Keep fantasizing about great masternode payments.
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The absolute worst people in history, ranked by the wisdom of the crowd: "Vlad the Impaler", "Mihnea the Evil", "Ivan the Terrible" and "Evan the Instaminer".
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April 10, 2015, 12:52:18 AM |
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huge diff in exchge rates yobit v/s bittrex???
This coin is being manipulated..ive reviewed the code as well. Junk. lmao Shadow Accounts are the future. We all know this. People in SDC have made accounts here to help add to the hype...then people are going to dump and throw their profits into SDC. That kind of shit makes me sick. You all have been warned. Again, please report this guy. There are no real questions just vitriol with nothing to back it up.
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April 10, 2015, 12:52:27 AM |
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Guys, how is the job with crave website ? Is there anyone working on it ?
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April 10, 2015, 12:53:01 AM |
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everyone should just stop feeding the trolls..
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