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You are the one who is insulted with butt hurt ego when I pointed out you don't know how to read the thread before you comment

You are like a spoiled brat who can't get what he wants

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.

YOU WILL NEVER CODE A COIN.

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Crafty slimy weasel.

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This useless blob of flesh is going on ignore now.

Giving negative trust on some argument is very immature smoothie, i would say abuse of trust system

Smoothie abused the Trust rating system which is supposed to be for bad trades, by giving his antagonist an negative rating to take revenge against the user which he incited and engaged in a bitch slap flame war. He submitted this box I am submitting with the following radio button selected, "Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.". He doesn't provide any documented claim that he was scammed nor that the antagonist is a scammer. Thus he is by definition a scammer because he submitted a false statement to the trust reporting system. He knows very well that the antagonist is me and I have a long very well respected reputation on the forum under various usernames such as Anonymint which reached Hero level with none of my usernames having any bad trust reports. This submission is to test the honesty of this trust system. If my report is not honored, I will know the mods are corrupted. I will remove this report when he removes he scam report and apologizes for his actions.

c'mon smoothie, a thread like this is really not necessary and not helping in any way.

edit: I don't consider the trust smoothie left on ion.cash abusive, but I certainly don't share his view, that anonymint's behaviour indicates untrustworthiness.

I have waited long enough for Smoothie to remove his scammy report against ion.cash.

I filed the following Negative report on his Trust.

on the contrary, negative trust on the sole basis of "Huge ego" is abusive.
However I certainly share his view that his behavior indicates untrustworthiness. A lot of untrustworthiness. But that's just my opinion and I can't prove that he shouldn't be trusted so I don't give him negative trust.

Haha, Sybil attack him/trust system.

Smoothie abused the Trust rating system which is supposed to be for bad trades

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer

However, I don't think it is trust abuse, within the context of the cryptocurrency marketplace. Hype of vaporware and conveniently selective disclosure of information is something that has been used by scammers and has a high risk of being employed by someone who is scamming.

This is not quite right and is a common misconception. The instructions on the trust page say:

Smooth you live in a fantasy world. You know damn well I am not hyping vaporware because you've even seen the Blake2 hash I coded in Scala this past week.

The scamming is supposed to be relative to BTC value, as the form asks for the BTC value involved.

If this devolves to a judgement of personality, then it is a meaningless metric. Surely you are smart enough to see that and I shouldn't have to explain that to you.

What I've seen is irrelevant as I'm not the one making a scamming allegation, though I have told you a few times now that your hyping without willingness to back it up with evidence will raise that suspicion. Which it does and will.

Now after sleeping, neither of those Trust ratings as submitted by TPTB_need_war have appeared publicly. They do appear if I login as TPTB_need_war. Does anyone know if this is due to some action or failure of action of the part of the mods? Or is this an automated function of the forum that someone with 0 trust can't make a public Trust report?

His trust rating states 0 BTC, which is accurate. (Unlike, for example, the trust abuse against me by one of the Bytecoin scammers which claims 10 BTC risked or lost, something which is made up out of thin air.)

The trust system is inherently subjective for better or worse.

I don't "strongly believe" that you are scamming but maybe smoothie does. I'm asking him to reconsider that assessment carefully (especially with emphasis on "strongly").

Again another of your epic logic fails.

My signature line clearly points to a Hero reputation from 2013.

Hero users can and do scam. Often via purchased Hero accounts (or lower Sr, etc. accounts that are mined up to Hero), sometimes not.

Or someone could falsely claim to be a new version of an old Hero account, without proof.

I'm not saying I believe these things, but others might.

And again you argue ad nauseum on a point that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

He has provided no strong evidence of any of these things. His evidence links to the opening post of this thread, which is a bunch of links to a cat fight.

Smooth when I evaluate people for their efficacy, one thing I look it is how well they reason to the effective point of it. Logic ad nauseum isn't logical.

Ion is (from what most of us can tell or guess) a crypto/coding genius with little patience for the slower people asking bothersome questions. Not saying smoothie is one of the 'slower people' at all.  I think Ion's responses are a little defensive and impatient, but then again I do not see at all how this can be worthy of a negative trust rating. He said he would not divulge anything that gives competition any hints into his epiphanies.

Smoothie did just seem genuinely interested and kind of respectful and just got a little bit roughly treated. I'm sure you guys can work it out and get the negative trust removed for now until some real evidence for scamming/untrustworthy behaviour can be found.

[1] Also the timing of his Trust report is when I told him to his face that he was making Freudian slips with his use of the words "humble" and "immaturity" and that he was employing psychological warfare. I outed him and he didn't like it. So he proceeded to use every weapon in his toolchest to try to discredit me. The circumstances along with the evidence presented clearly show his motivation is revenge. And the reason is clear also. He was embarrassed because he started off initially attacking me over the definition of the 'delegated'. And then I pointed out that only a simpleton, non-skilled programmer assumes that delegation must be married to trust. Rather than eating humble pie, he turned Freudian and blamed me for not being humble and not putting the entire thread in the opening post.

Here he starts the conflation of 'delegated' and 'trusted':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12374689#msg12374689

So then I explained to him not to conflate the two, yet he repeats for the second time that he doesn't understand the definition of 'delegated':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12374976#msg12374976

After r0ach tried to explain it to him, then I explained it to him yet again and asked him kindly to not start a word war:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375049#msg12375049

Then for the third time he repeated his insistance on conflating the words 'delegated' and 'trusted' even after he has been told already 3X and by 2 experts not to do that:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375107#msg12375107

Then after r0ach tries to warn him the 4th time, he then defiantly states he is not trolling:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375170#msg12375170

But then he proceeds over to my thread to repeat the same nonsense some more as follows...

First, I had to explain it to him again for the 5th time and again caution him that I wasn't going to reveal the secrets of how I unconflate the delegation and the trust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12375146#msg12375146

Yet for the 5th time he repeats his same insistence that delegation must be married to trust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12375327#msg12375327

Around that point he started blaming me for his inability to read and saying I wasn't humble:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12377982#msg12377982

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12378045#msg12378045

I asked they move that detailed delegation issue discussion to another thread and it looked like maybe he was going to be reasonable, so I allowed his link to the new thread to remain in my thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375430#msg12375430

And I even pointed out to monsterer that it seemed to me like Smoothie was starting to genuinely think about a potential middle ground and I thought he had opened his mind and become more reasonable finally:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375644#msg12375644

But then he backslides and joins in with the VanillaCoin investors who want to attack me:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375676#msg12375676

And he starts attacking me ad hominem:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375708#msg12375708

Again I apologize profusely (2X) and beg one more time for mutual respect and level headedness (am I am not humble  ???):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375715#msg12375715

Then smooth jumps on the bandwagon too with them all attacking me:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375982#msg12375982

Then Smoothie starts with his Freudian slips attacks where he is projecting his lack of humbleness and immaturity as accusations on me when in fact he is covering for big ego and butt hurt over being told 5 times not to conflate delegation and trust by both myself and r0ach:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12377446#msg12377446

Re-read my prior post. I have provided a chronology which makes my case irrefutable.

Yes, the case for you being the most tedious, unproductive, cranky, self-pitying poser in the history of Trolltalk is irrefutable.

I have to say the negative trust bothers me, I don't support it, and I think it should be removed. But that is based on my personal opinion that ion.cash is sincere and is not scamming.

It's entirely legitimate to give someone a new positive rating just to negate a negative rating.

Just like when I delegate the transfer of my internet packets to my ISP and all the router hops along the way, thus my participation in the internet is no longer decentralized.  ::)

That is the fabulous logic of Smoothie which he tried to ram down our throat 5 or more times (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175752.msg12386678#msg12386678).

As I tried to explain to that young punk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12387338#msg12387338) several times, if the routers are fungible, replaceable, and can't be monopolized, then the packets find their way to the destination, without need to trust or centralize. Delegation should not be conflated with centralization, nor trust. We told him this 5 or more times, yet he still insisted.

And he claims to be a software developer. I wouldn't let him any where near my code.

Because you don't believe smoothie was scammed by ion.cash and you don't strongly believe ion.cash is a scammer (as per the very definition of the negative trust) you can place positive trust on him to negate negative rating.

I see this - http://s3.postimg.org/7ndf8rq81/smoothie.png

trust is not only used for busting scammers, many use it that way though.

I can understand OPs logic, as it's perfectly fine to distrust an altcoin dev who's hyping / promising the world. also, he stated that he will delete the trust if the coin is fully released as promised.

and insulting people leads to situations like this. very unprofessional behavior.

I can understand OPs logic, as it's perfectly fine to distrust an altcoin dev who's hyping / promising the world. also, he stated that he will delete the trust if the coin is fully released as promised.

and insulting people leads to situations like this. very unprofessional behavior.

The definition of 'logic' is not 'literally true', rather a logical metaphor is one that doesn't have an obvious case of dissimilarity or where the similarity does not exist.

MtGox was programmed in PHP thus Java has an obvious direct dissimilarity with MtGox which is stronger than the transitive similarity you argued comes from popular websites because in fact you would be arguing every popular website is both MtGox and Nxt.

Logic fail. And this is why you are not worth shit. Go hide under a rock loser. You aren't worth another second of my time.

Note to readers I am treating iCEBREAKER so harshly because he is so incredibly disrespectful to everyone. Just read his archives.

It sure feels like this community is devolving into frustrated suicide.

Seriously the community is dying. All sorts of dysfunctional crap going on.

No strong leaders since Satoshi left.

Lots of self-important masturbation ever since.

Recently every few comments of yours is about how you solved world hunger

I have never claimed that.

The claims I have made about having two unpublished white papers which explain how to do the features I have claimed are factually true statements.

If you want to wager enough BTC (put your money where you mouth is), we can arrange for an independent third party to verify and then I will appreciate taking that BTC from you.

I'm not saying they are not true, but you don't prove it so it is nothing else, but hype. Expected you to understand my simple comment since you seem like a clever guy.

since you announced your project I have been eating potatoes and drinking tap water to save up for investing in it.

Please disable your network adapter and start coding, thank you :)

My claims were made in my one thread and made in a very subdued manner. I didn't go around hyping. The amount of attention and energy directed at slandering me is incredibly disproportionate to the amount of attention I actually solicited. Have fun with your useless masturbation.

I think you need to learn how to use a dictionary:

hype1

noun
1.
extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion.

verb
1.
promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, often exaggerating its importance or benefits.

The current focus of my development on this coin is to complete a novel consensus network design which has proposed the following fixes to flaws in Satoshi’s design while retaining proof-of-work as unbounded entropy[1]:

• Censorship resistance even if mining is entirely centralized.
• Attack-free instant zero confirmation instantaneous transactions.
• Impervious to selfish mining and 51% attacks.
• Transaction rates virtually unbounded by block chain bandwidth and size.
• Resilient against network fragmentation.
• Decentralization of pools and ASICs by making them uneconomic.
• Non-heuristic Sybil and DoS resistance.

None of the above is a joke nor exaggeration. I am entirely serious. My programming background and expertise is documented in the archives of my prior usernames.

The correct solution is invent a decentralized ecosystem coin that will be used by millions of people every day.

Aiming lower is slower, lower, and not my style. Then you worry about being pecked off by a larger small bird.

I have produced million user software back when the internet population was 1/10 of its current size.

Anyone viewing your comment history can decide if your hyping or not.

trust is not only used for busting scammers, many use it that way though.

I can understand OPs logic, as it's perfectly fine to distrust an altcoin dev who's hyping / promising the world. also, he stated that he will delete the trust if the coin is fully released as promised.

and insulting people leads to situations like this. very unprofessional behavior.

If that is the idiotic system you want, then you deserve the fact that serious software developers refuse to develop for your dysfunctional community and that is why you end up with shitcoins instead.

I would agree if *mint was soliciting money for his project which at this point is vapour ware but to the best of my knowledge he is just tooting his horn without asking for money.

You can decide if he is soliciting money based on the below post or not...

If I don't need to go to Australia for fecal transplant before launch of the project, then that is perhaps $5000 - $10,000 less that isn't needed.

You can decide if he is soliciting money based on the below post or not...

I have not solicited money from the general community nor from n00bs.

I have two angel investors, both of whom are programmers and developers and understand very well what they are investing in.

Thus you have no right whatsoever to "protect the community" from your allegations of my untrustworthiness.

You are digging around trying to slander me because you are embarrassed that you didn't understand that "delegation != requires trust != requires centralization",, even after I explained it to you 3 times politely and then 2 more times slightly more forcefully, before you went off slandering me which was well before I called you an asshole.

Little weasel punks like you will get what you deserve in the end.

Any more non-meritorious, unprofessional FUD?

All I did was repost your post.

You did the interpretation of the rest by your post above ^

All you did was abuse the Trust rating system for your own personal problem.

Any one with half a brain can see you are trying to be weasel.

Sticks and stones...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticks_and_Stones_(nursery_rhyme)

Smoothie, I am going to put it to you a different way and I hope you can understand. My father is a very powerful attorney. He was the former West Coast Division head attorney running the entire Alaska operation for Exxon. He rose up higher than that being a general counsel for THUMS the consortium of the oil companies.

Remove the slander or you may find yourself in a lawsuit that could be very damaging to your financial well being.

And next time, don't play games with people's reputations, because this isn't a fucking game.

Every day that you leave that abuse of ion.cash, which is being recorded and accrued for damages on a daily basis, the more you are digging your grave.

I hope I put that in a language that a little punk weasel like you can understand.

I don't think you understand the definition of slander nor the purpose of the trust system on Bitcointalk. You cannot sue someone for leaving you negative trust because in their opinion they do not find you trustworthy.

I've left negative trust for people, a couple have left some for me based upon their opinion. One of my neg trust I left was based on a trade, the rest was based on opinion, a couple of my positive trust I left was based on trade, the rest were opinion.

The trust system is subjective, these forums are opinionative. If you do not like peoples opinions, just create your own forums or use a moderated thread.

I don't think you understand the legal system.

If you take advantage of a feature which allows you to put a red warning label on a user's profile as seen every where in the community, and you do so without sufficient evidence, you have created a culpability under the law. Damages can be sued for as a civil court matter. Now whether one can win such a case is open to opinion.

Actually the correct technical term in this case is libel, not slander, as it is a written statement he has made.

Let me add that simply expressing an opinion in a forum would be much more difficult to prove since I chose to participate in the forum. And the nature of a forum is to express opinions in threads.

However, the feature which enables any person to put a red warning of scammer on another user's 2.5 year reputation without any requirement for sufficient evidence, is not a normal forum feature which one submits to by joining a discussion forum.

He is making a global impact on the user's profile ex post facto (every past post of the user gets that new red warning label).

I think the idea of suing someone because they left a negative trust rating against an anonymous nick on an interwebs forum is laughable.

If you think investing 2.5 years of my life in this space is a joke, then I assume you don't understand the value of work.

I was referring to the fact that the "victim" in this case is an anonymous internet pseudonym.  I understand the value of work very well.

He is not anonymous. I already know his name and where he lives.

I don't think you understand the legal system.

If you take advantage of a feature which allows you to put a red warning label on a user's profile as seen every where in the community, and you do so without sufficient evidence, you have created a culpability under the law. Damages can be sued for as a civil court matter. Now whether one can win such a case is open to opinion.

Actually the correct technical term in this case is libel, not slander, as it is a written statement he has made.

Let me add that simply expressing an opinion in a forum would be much more difficult to prove since I chose to participate in the forum. And the nature of a forum is to express opinions in threads.

However, the feature which enables any person to put a red warning of scammer on another user's 2.5 year reputation without any requirement for sufficient evidence, is not a normal forum feature which one submits to by joining a discussion forum.

He is making a global impact on the user's profile ex post facto (every past post of the user gets that new red warning label).

You are joining this forum but you may create your own forum if you do not like the rules, or create a moderated thread.

The assertion of negative trust dolled out is correct and you would not win a legal case on the matter.

You are wasting your time arguing about the point when you could simply prove him wrong by creating the product being toted.

You do not understand the way property rights work.

I have 2.5 years of reputation here in this forum. That is my personal property right. I own my reputation here on this forum.

I can't just move that investment some where and have it retain its value.

Any libel (unproven statements which damage that reputation) against that personal property is culpable under the law.


The red warning message says I am a scammer. There is not sufficient evidence I am a scammer. Thus it is not correct and is culpable under the law.


I am not wasting my time by notifying him that he is accruing potential financial culpability for his actions.

Whether I pursue that or not, depends on the level of damages that accrue.

Personally I hate to use the legal system. But I also hate punks who steal from others with impunity. We end up with a thug mentality society.

given your multiple personality disorder here on this forum

You do not understand the way property rights work.

I have 2.5 years of reputation here in this forum. That is my personal property right. I own my reputation here on this forum.

I can't just move that investment some where and have it retain its value.

Any libel (unproven statements which damage that reputation) against that personal property is culpable under the law.


The red warning message says I am a scammer. There is not sufficient evidence I am a scammer. Thus it is not correct and is culpable under the law.


I am not wasting my time by notifying him that he is accruing potential financial culpability for his actions.

Whether I pursue that or not, depends on the level of damages that accrue.

Personally I hate to use the legal system. But I also hate punks who steal from others with impunity. We end up with a thug mentality society. Actually Hawaii has this reputation. The young locals will treat you very poorly if you are an outsider. They live in their insular, spoiled world. And perhaps Smoothie needs to learn about the real world and about the cost of fucking with people for no good reason.

You do not understand the way property rights work.

I have 2.5 years of reputation here in this forum. That is my personal property right. I own my reputation here on this forum.

I can't just move that investment some where and have it retain its value.

Any libel (unproven statements which damage that reputation) against that personal property is culpable under the law.


The red warning message says I am a scammer. There is not sufficient evidence I am a scammer. Thus it is not correct and is culpable under the law.


I am not wasting my time by notifying him that he is accruing potential financial culpability for his actions.

Whether I pursue that or not, depends on the level of damages that accrue.

Personally I hate to use the legal system. But I also hate punks who steal from others with impunity. We end up with a thug mentality society. Actually Hawaii has this reputation. The young locals will treat you very poorly if you are an outsider. They live in their insular, spoiled world. And perhaps Smoothie needs to learn about the real world and about the cost of fucking with people for no good reason.

You are toting a system that you say will solve all the flaws of Bitcoin and are promoting it on the Bitcoin forums without any solid technical proof to backup your claims. I would not trust someone to give them my money without owning the Coins and knowing what are the technical details that would ensure that I would make a return on my investment.

If you truly believe that your project will be the killer project that you believe then you do not need to be here and it can survive without Bitcointalk.

Dude, seriously. You're going to have to either grow some thicker skin or adopt a better PR ethic if you even want a chance at your project surviving. You can be the best coder in the universe, but if you don't have a positive and credible means to promote yourself then it's over. I'm interested in what ion.cash can deliver but this negative petulance is doing you no favours.

Dude if you don't understand how hard I have worked and that I do not want a red warning label on my user profile stating erroneously that I am a scammer, then I perhaps you shouldn't invest in my efforts if they ever come public.

I am perfectly happy if you miss the train. Your loss not mine.

At this rate you will never complete your project because you are spending all your time arguing over peoples opinions on the matter.

I already asked could we wrap this up.

You keep hoping against hope that I am a failure. Amazing human trait. Is it jealousy or what? People love to see other people crash and burn, especially when that person isn't an ass licker.

Dude if you don't understand how hard I have worked and that I do not want a red warning label on my user profile stating erroneously that I am a scammer, then I perhaps you shouldn't invest in my efforts if they ever come public.

I am perfectly happy if you miss the train. Your loss not mine.

I am so proud of this forum where the baboons are allowed to dominate.

how many attorneys are going to be looking for a simple civil case where they are given let's say 80% of the proceeds of the case

Is it a joke, like the old 'their food is terrible, and the portions are so small' saw?

"There are a few crybabies crying 'lawyer', which is absurd in bitcoin culture. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3kfmuw/great_job_everyone_bitcoiners_are_ddosing_bitcoin/cuxavxu)"

I just noticed that Trust doesn't display in most of the forums. Apparently only in the altcoin forums?

Smoothie, I am going to put it to you a different way and I hope you can understand. My father (same name as myself) is a very powerful attorney. He was the former West Coast Division head attorney running the entire Alaska operation for Exxon. He rose up higher than that being a general counsel for THUMS the consortium of the oil companies.

Remove the slander or you may find yourself in a lawsuit that could be very damaging to your financial well being.

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Lol what a fucking douchetaco. Watch out Smoothie, he's gonna call his dad on you. Don't sue me bro :P

Don't fuck with people's reputation like it is toy. Just like you wouldn't do that in the middle of the road to someone walking down the street. Douchetacos hide behind the  internet, because in real life they'd get their ass kicked for doing what they do on the internet.

Have some respect for humans please.

I know you younger generation think life is just swiping. You've lost all touch with reality.

And you are another fool who can't read. Try again to read about how I said I might go about incentivizing an attorney. I mention my father meaning I have some comprehension about the law having grown up reading legal briefs laying around the house and I suppose some of my father's intellect has been inherited. Also you might imagine that I can also get access to a quick legal opinion. And yes I have been advised that he probably doesn't have enough networth to make it worthwhile and the best is to try to move on.

I can call people funny mexican food-based insults.

If you make outlandish claims without backing them up (with code), why is it unreasonable for senior members of the forum to mark you as untrustworthy?

The current focus of my development on this coin is to complete a novel consensus network design which has proposed the following fixes to flaws in Satoshi’s design while retaining proof-of-work as unbounded entropy[1]:

Censorship resistance even if mining is entirely centralized.
Attack-free instant zero confirmation instantaneous transactions.
Impervious to selfish mining and 51% attacks.
Transaction rates virtually unbounded by block chain bandwidth and size.
Resilient against network fragmentation.
Decentralization of pools and ASICs by making them uneconomic.
Non-heuristic Sybil and DoS resistance.

None of the above is a joke nor exaggeration. I am entirely serious. My programming background and expertise is documented in the archives of my prior usernames.

Attack-free and instant zero confirmation txs? Sounds like bs to me. And it's not labeling you as a scammer, it's labeling you as untrustworthy. If you promise the moon and demonstrate nothing, then you're probably untrustworthy. If you promise the moon and hold an ICO before releasing any code, then you're probably a scammer.

Is it unreasonable to label someone as "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" if they're making ridiculous claims when they've demonstrated nothing.

If by your criteria I am untrustworthy, then you should also mark ... John Conner.

I have demonstrated 2.5 years of astute analysis on wide ranging topics. I have been working for a long time on these technologies, going back to discussions in 2013 between myself as Anonymint and the author of Decrits, which was one of the early Emunie-like attempts.

If by your criteria I am untrustworthy, then you should also mark Fuseleer the author of Emunie with the same warning label, because he is making similar claims. Ditto John Conner. Ditto the author of InstantDEX, etc, etc.

If you are really diligent maybe you can drive away every superstar developer from the community and languish with shitcoins forever.

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You've demonstrated jack shit as far as trustless, zero-confirmation txs are concerned, which is about as much as Fuseleer, johnconner, and jl777 have demonstrated as well.

Multiple Sclerosis
Chronic Fatigue

haha the baboon betamales are so offended. Who can thump their chest the loudest? Who can cut down Anonymint the most for the tribe?

Look here Princess AttentionWhore.  Those medical terms aren't capitalized.  You are just puffing up your self-pity party with cheap theatrics.

What is capitalized is the phrase Munchausen syndrome, which is among the mental problems you are actually suffering from.

What anonymint should do is ignore the rating and keep working to get something out first. If it is truly what you say, shaming smoothie endlessly would be fun ;D

I only wish all of you had to go through even 1 month of the past 3 year hell I been going through with M.S.. You have no way to understand the debilitation of the effects until you've experienced it.

But I don't want any fucking sympathy. Instead I want to kick your asses.  :-*

Yes, I understand living with M.S. (Munchausen Syndrome) is very debilitating...for everyone who has to put up with your attention seeking self-pity parade.

#R3KT

It is time to squash Proof-of-Stake once and for all. It can NEVER remain decentralized. Satoshi's Proof-of-Work is the only known solution to the Byzantine General's Problem (was a known unsolved problem since at least the 1970s).

Apologies I've been busy and hadn't had time to squash bytemaster's latest N.A.O.D. (nonsense algorithm of the day).

First of all, he never was able to address the issues I raised about Transactions as Proof-of-Stake quoted as follows.

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The bottom line is that no proof-of-stake system can ever remain decentralized.

They all will require some sort of delegation of reputation to achieve consensus. I would have to go through a laundry list of examples to cover all the cases. For example, in Transactions as Proof-of-Stake it is required to delegate trust of propagation to the other nodes as I explained above. Thus there needs to be some reputation system to enforce this, e.g. blacklisting, whitelisting, etc.. All the other proof-of-stake systems have a requirement for some form of delegated reputation.

I have many times explained to bytemaster and others the fundamental problem is that any system that attempts to replace proof-of-work will rely on some form of reputation, and reputation is centralization. And centralization is precisely what decentralized crypto-currency is not supposed to be because centralization will always end up control and manipulated (i.e. it is a fiat system).






P.S. I won't have time to go back here and debate. I am technically qualified and I am 100% sure I am correct.

TooDumbForBitcoin

I think the idea of suing someone because they left a negative trust rating against an anonymous nick on an interwebs forum is laughable.

If I tried to sue everyone that called me a scammer, conman, clown, douchebag, and a whole host of other names, I'd never have written a line of code yet!

Thus as I pointed out in 2013 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=340686.msg3681159#msg3681159), a very high incentive exists to centralize mining, because transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons. We keep coming back to the research I did in 2013. I had already figured all this stuff out back then.

I had even pointed out the block size issue back in 2013, which is now the raging problem today with BitcoinXT alias GavinCoin.

This is what attorneys are for. You give them a task and share profit in the end. Smoothie feels himself protected because of lack of real life experience. Once he gets his arse slapped by guys in uniform he will change his behavior on the Internet, no doubt.  :D

Well, I still couldn't be arsed, attorneys can be as difficult to deal with as the people you are suing!

Id just rather not cry over split milk for something as trivial as some name calling and push on.

Please go elsewhere given you already asked people not to discuss delegation and this thread is simply about ion delegation.

Thanks  :-*

I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear.

Or you could just go under the radar for 12 months like I did, concentrate on what you are doing, and pop up when you have more concrete stuff to show.

Indeed. All that really matters is who delivers something to the users. Again the users are not here in Bitcointalk.

If you have the users, the investors will flock in and fight to be line.

Doesn't matter if your users are here on Bitcointalk or not, there is now a public record of your reaction to something that is trivial, and it will only hinder you later.

Nonsense. Users can't even research what a Satoshi is. They could care less.

This issue is not trivial.

And now you're calling your users stupid, in public....

I'm respectfully just offering my sincere advice regarding things Ive witnessed over the years that can, and does sometimes come back to bite you hard....do what you will with it

Users know they are stupid. They like easy to use stuff. They don't want to be bothered.

Do you realize you are talking to someone who has successfully marketed to users.

You've taken (so far) 2 years or whatever to write a paper and form your ideas, so I hope you were stating the time I've spent as a negative.

Yes 2.5 years to go from Bitcoin 101 to getting to the point where I could make better anonymity than Zerocash and Blockstream combined!

But also remember I was suffering extremely debilitating CFS where I would spend the entire day trying to keep my eyes open and try to ignore the headache and abdominal pain. You try working in that condition.

Just here in September I got so pissed off at this lame condition, that I decided to not eat for 10 days. Then I started drinking this Kombucha tea and only eating vegetables and coconut, nothing else. No meat, no carbos, no protein. I am nearly certain now I have correlated my M.S. to gut dysbiosis. I was about to do a self-administered fecal transplant as a desperate last resort attempt to get my ability to work restored. Luckily appears the fasting + Kombucha + change in diet is going to work.

Do you realize the same?

So even if they are stupid, and they know it, they won't appreciate being told that they are.

Could you imagine if Apple launched a new product and at the launch talk they implied that all users were stupid and told them as such?  There would be a boycott of all Apples products.

Don't make the mistake of confusing stupidity with a desire for convenience.

We're yet to see the validity of those claims so I'm not going to comment on it.

Know who your "friends" are, and don't treat them with contempt.

I discovered that here in cryptoland, you can never be quite sure who your friends are.

You were gleeful when you thought I had destroyed my political reputation with users. As if that is going to help you compete with me.

Gleeful??? Oh man!  ??? :o

Not everyone is out to get you, seriously.

I look forward to the opportunity to go head to head with you, and may the best tech+marketing+direction+everything in between win....I'd feel cheated out of potential victory if you were to screw things up yourself before we got the chance.

What are oracle avatars?

TPTB - you are becoming a nuisance to read..
At least Fuserleer is keeping it to the tech stuff, which is what I (we?) want to hear about.
I am getting tired of reading about what you think and don't think.
Give me some tech facts about what you are working on, and then I will re-evaluate if you are worth reading..

I always enjoy reading what Fuserleer writes about, because it is real tech - whereas I have no idea if you are just all hot air..

I have followed most of the threads about emunie over time, and Fuserleer always keep a controlled and impartial tone - OK a few times he might blow a fuse, but to me that's perfectly OK - considering that various oracle avatars are all over him insulting him and his project!

Isn't it a fucking shame how much time we lose trying to please every fickle ego on this forum. This thread is an abomination.

Linus Torvalds says almost are the people are dumb as shit. And nobody uses Linux because of that?

Steve Jobs was well known to tell everyone around them frankly they were under performing. And nobody uses or respects Apple's products? Do you think my gf gives a fuck what Steve Jobs said or did. If I give her a new iPhone, she will be ears-to-ears grinning.

Bill Gates was known to do the same berating of employees that Steve Jobs did. Did Microsoft not kick ass during his prime years?

You all can whine as much as you want, but it won't matter in the end. All that matters is who is going to deliver the product that users have a very strong use case to use.

If I deliver a product to a millions users, you will be right there licking my butt. And that is what I mean when I say "I want to kick your ass". I mean I want to show you what fucking whining ass losers you are.

I don't give a fuck what you think. Show me your technical abilities and maybe I might respect you.

Seriously you do not matter. What matters is the code and product I release.

P.S. Can you tell my M.S. is going into remission, hehe. Feeling too strong!

Except they can. It is called a Share Withholding Attack which I learned from reading Meni Rosenfeld's 2011 white paper, where the miner withholds the shares which are winning blocks, thus stealing the work of the other honest miners in the pool. And his proposed solution oblivious shares was apparently never adopted by Bitcoin.

Given the high variance afaik this sort of cheating can't be detected statistically very well.

The motivation for doing this could be for the purposes of monopolizing pooling to drive up transaction fees, when debasement ends, because transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=340686.msg3681159#msg3681159).

Steve Jobs may have pushed his employees but he did not go on public forums to call his potential investors "dumb as shit" and "losers"

If you cannot respect others and their point of view then they will not respect you, nor will they invest in you when there are literally thousands of other projects to choose from where they can have a civil discussion.

I really do not care about your MS and please stop playing the victim game.

Steve Jobs may have pushed his employees but he did not go on public forums to call his potential investors "dumb as shit" and "losers"

If you cannot respect others and their point of view then they will not respect you, nor will they invest in you when there are literally thousands of other projects to choose from where they can have a civil discussion.

I really do not care about your MS and please stop playing the victim game.

I would never use any product you are behind, for one simple reason: yourself and your foul mouth and your self-righteousness!

Ah stop your whining. You are not the users. You are jealous losers, soon to be butt lickers. And I will kick your ass in code. End of story.

After that I might even call an attorney so I can spend some of my stash on a little payback.


Just imagine if one could get paid for butt licking and whining like a bitch. Then you wouldn't be such a sorry ass jealous loser.

You wanted a fight. Now you got one.

Perfect.

You are so damn self-important. You do not matter. Sorry to inform you.

Haha, you thought you had won with your political bullshit. You fucking losers are so damn predictable.

CoinCube it is going to be interesting to see to what degree that ominous potential you describe plays out (you draw a lot from some themes I have popularized on these forums).

I am still working hard and hoping for a more widely and rapidly adopted Knowledge Age. Thinking the Asians are poised to adopt my new software coming. I am over here in Asia and ready to market to them. Think new social networks accepting micropayments (remember I coded an entire such site in April and have it on standby, etc). I don't think they give a flying fuck about Bitcointalk.org.

It is painfully clear to any level-headed person that you attackers started to go ballastic when the poll on the ion.cash name was running in the 80% approval zone.

I never seen so many whining crybaby jealous fools in one forum in my life.

It is so incredibly obvious that this is all about jealousy.

Why should I emulate a loser? Change for what? I'll keep doing what made me very successful in my life. Which is code, market, and win.

And stop trying to be nice to a bunch of irrelevant fools who are jealous and insatiably fickle any way.

Perhaps he would be a good role model.

80% of this is about entertainment.

Come-from-beyond, someone kindly informed me that I typoed your username upthread as come-from-behind. I apologize that wasn't intentional. I will correct it.

Ah stop your whining. You are not the users. You are jealous losers, soon to be butt lickers. And I will kick your ass in code. End of story.

After that I might even call an attorney so I can spend some of my stash on a little payback.


Just imagine if one could get paid for butt licking and whining like a bitch. Then you wouldn't be such a sorry ass jealous loser.

You wanted a fight. Now you got one.

Perhaps the bitcoin saga includes the story of a brilliant, generous cryptographic programmer who faced medical challenges and continued to make solid contributions throughout his ordeal, making his family proud despite their loss, and the community grateful for his presence, short though it was.

Perhaps he would be a good role model.

I am interested in creating software and not having to deal with childish idiots who attack and throw hissy fits as Smoothie did when I didn't give away my intellectual property on demand.

That is what Bitcointalk is. Guys masturbating and enjoying to tear each other down. All I see all day is bickering.

No one actually working and no one actually trying to act sane with mutual respect and focus on working together.

Blame it all on me. Yeah that will work.  ::)

Stay there in your fishbowl. There is enough entertainment and fist fucking to get your daily fixes.

You are going to call your dad an attorney to fight your battles for you because you cannot tell the difference between constructive criticism and libel (previously painted as slander). As I said before, you are digging yourself a hole by acting in such an unprofessional way, complaining about peoples point of view and threatening lawsuits which will never hold up in court, ultimately hurting your own chances at success.

I am a potential investor, everyone here is but I value professionalism as much as I do the code backing the product.

Then just go code.

Forums are inherently and inescapably a social environment. In that environment you have to deal with other people, including "childish" ones. (Dealing with them can include ignoring them, of course.)

And everyone said I was a kook in 2013 when I said FATCA was the framework that would lead to a global taxation cooperation. The Europeans in this forum were particularly upbeat at that time  ::)


Now they attack the messenger again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175752.msg12404182#msg12404182). When will these fools ever learn?

Matthew 7 New International Version (NIV)

Judging Others
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

I was actually serious.  If I thought I had invented the best cryptocurrency ever and the entire world would be forced to use it, I would name it something like "Dog coin" or "Cryptoshekel".

The name discussion is in my thread. I stated my logic there. You are welcome to post any serious logic there.

Your prior post was trolling. You offer a name which is some b-lister attack on my personality.

Cryptoshekel is for gold bugs, biblical followers, and crypto enthusiasts. Somewhat interesting, but I am trying to create a coin for the masses.

I already explained that I am targetting microtransactions, thus ions.

Stop with your condescending, childish self-flagellation. Don't you have any work to do?

I already stated clearly that the actions taken by Smoothie are culpable under the law. If he chooses to risk it, he can face the consequences.

Stop trying to tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Mutual respect begins with understanding I am 50 years old and I don't need your childish concepts of how I should be if only I could meet your expectations. I am perfectly capable of running my own life.

Apparently you do not understand what the phrase "mutual respect" means. When dealing with childish boys who don't understand this, the only way to teach them is to defeat them. Then they start to learn.

It has been a long time since you boys have met a man who will tell you frankly when you are abusive and it is not acceptable.

Leaving you negative trust because you are promoting vaporware is perfectly acceptable.

If you were capable of running your own life and earning mutual respect from people...

Lie. Warning you've just libeled me.

I made it very clear in my thread that I was only interested in a poll on the name and potentially recruiting developers.

You have just entered the realm of legal culpability.


Again you continue to try to be my mother. You have not yet learned to be mature and understand what mutual respect means.

Mutual respect means respecting that people have their own choices and to respect their choices for as long as their choices do not hurt you.

You are trying to force your will down my throat and accusing me of a victimless crime and in fact even lying about my actions.

Despicable.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking

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Smooth, I know how to deal with these asshole bullies. Watch and observe how I shut them up. Truth is on my side. I have done nothing wrong.

Vaporware is often announced months or years before its purported release, with development details lacking. Developers have been accused of intentionally promoting vaporware to keep customers from switching to competing products that offer more features

"[Stalking] is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom he has no relationship (or no longer has), with motives that are directly or indirectly traceable to the affective sphere. Moreover, the separated acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but do taken together (cumulative effect)."

1-b. Within the potential crownsourcing there is mention of wanting to use investors funds for a fecal transplant, this is securities fraud.

It is vapourware until I can use the product and you have produced it.

Also your definition of Cyberstalking is also false since I am only replying in this thread, about a particular subject at hand, it's merits and faults.

I suppose you could be defined as Cyberstalking by replying and harassing people as well since it is a fairly loose definition.

If you are unhappy with the feedback people are posting, there is the ignore button, or you could simply not reply......

How is it fraud of any kind if the investors are told that's what their investment will (or may) be used for?

You are probably right about this but I still see it as a red flag as he suggested using investors funds for personal use rather than on the software itself. I think the best course of action is simply not to handle investors funds directly and avoid that situation altogether, then you never have to worry about cases of securities fraud or the trolling that can come as a result of investors not happy with the use of those funds.

I realize I only bolded 4 of your words and perhaps your IQ is really challenged by 4 words, but I am not 'promoting'. I asked for a vote on the name and discussion that could help me spur other developers to help me code. This is what open source is all about you fucking idiot.

Open source is not about programming by yourself in a cave as you bullies would force me to do.


We'll let a judge decide if your posting of abusive images is stalking or not, especially after I have stated numerous times to stop abusing me.


Harrassment is a form of bullying and defamation, especially to the extreme degree you are going with it. And especially coupling it with lies and libel.


Why do you force me to repeat myself by lying about my upthread statements.

I am not unhappy about "feedback" in the normal use of the forums. That is why we are here is to discuss matters.

I have already warned Smoothie that he has abused the trust system out of revenge and libeled me, and unilaterally abused the fact that he appears in the obscure notion of Default Trust which is buried from most readers' awareness, to place an accusation that I am a scammer on my user profile.

He has not provided evidence that I am scammer. This is serious libel and he will pay for it one day.

Ok so a more serious questions now.

Here's a few things I see fault with in your plan of investment and lacktherof discussion of rewards.

1. How do you plan on investors receiving ROI on their investment in Ion?

1-a. There is mention about trying to crowdsource a million dollars in capital for the development of Ion and instanteous, anonymous transactions, however you also mention that the chain is going to be POW but in that model, the price each Coin ultimately falls to the cost of production then then inconceivable for holders to keep their investment with additional Coins continually driving down the price.

1-b. Within the potential crownsourcing there is mention of wanting to use investors funds for a fecal transplant, this is securities fraud.

1-c. The problem that even if you are successful that you may end up being ties up in legal battles over petty squabbles, wasting valuable time and money only to try to prove a point.

2. What is your plan on adoption and use of the system? Instantaneous transactions are largely irrelevant if it cannot be used by the general population and with Bitshares, eMunie, NXT or Ethereum, what makes your Ion concept superior and a better investment to these systems which are already better established? If Bitshares has 1 second transaction times then why should I choose Ion if the cost of POW mining will be continually devaluing the investment, making it somewhat of a trap where in order to get my investment out, there needs to be more investment than the cost of mining and the users leaving the system.

You are probably right about this but I still see it as a red flag as he suggested using investors funds for personal use rather than on the software itself. I think the best course of action is simply not to handle investors funds directly and avoid that situation altogether, then you never have to worry about cases of securities fraud or the trolling that can come as a result of investors not happy with the use of those funds.

Ok so a more serious questions now.

Here's a few things I see fault with in your plan of investment and lacktherof discussion of rewards.

1. How do you plan on investors receiving ROI on their investment in Ion?

1-a. There is mention about trying to crowdsource a million dollars in capital for the development of Ion and instanteous, anonymous transactions, however you also mention that the chain is going to be POW but in that model, the price each Coin ultimately falls to the cost of production then then inconceivable for holders to keep their investment with additional Coins continually driving down the price.

1-b. Within the potential crownsourcing there is mention of wanting to use investors funds for a fecal transplant, this is securities fraud.

1-c. The problem that even if you are successful that you may end up being ties up in legal battles over petty squabbles, wasting valuable time and money only to try to prove a point.

2. What is your plan on adoption and use of the system? Instantaneous transactions are largely irrelevant if it cannot be used by the general population

You said you are going to solve all the problems in Cryptocurrency, then suggested a million dollar IPO with little to no information as to how it would work, this is promotion.

And how are you going to pay these developers to help you with the coding? Please stick to the questions I have asked a couple posts back and lets move away from arguing about legal definitions.

You are probably right about this but I still see it as a red flag as he suggested using investors funds for personal use rather than on the software itself. I think the best course of action is simply not to handle investors funds directly and avoid that situation altogether, then you never have to worry about cases of securities fraud or the trolling that can come as a result of investors not happy with the use of those funds.

First of all, if you had bothered to read further in the Economic Totalitarianism thread that Smoothie quoted, you would see I made a statement that the proposed ICO plan was unteneable because the controlling group could borrow money and buy its own ICO and then pay the loan back. So I said that plan had been scrapped and we'd have to come up with a new one. We did not announce any new plan.

Also I made it clear that if ever I am involved with a coin and even the lead developer, then I won't be the controlling group. I will be paid by the controlling group for my services. So you'll need to ask my controlling group. I think at this time they are not yet ready to come public because there is no coin and no announcement of any coin.

I do hope you are able to discern the distinction between the Altcoin Announcements and the Altcoin Discussion threads. I realize you seem to be a bit challenged by big words. But I am hopeful a dictionary can help you to learn.

I don't remember any mention of raising a $million dollars now. I think you may be referring to some hopes of what could maybe be raised if the coin was launched and some money was raised in an ICO to fund further developments. The latest internal proposal I saw from the controlling group was to raise funds in very small amounts for specific tasks that need to be funded, i.e. a trickle ICO.

Given that it will be open source, these developments can only help everyone in cyptoland. With a trickle ICO, then there comes some proof of results before money is raised again. Therefor one would assume the price would increase. And yes of course once coins are sold, then there must be an exchange and a market price.

Perhaps the coins would be sold on the exchange in a trickle after announcing the sale or perhaps in a transparent bid auction.

But none of that applies in the here and now. That was all hypothetical discussion about what might happen if we ever launch the coin.

Also there is still the option of distributing all coins in PoW and not raising any funds at all. But I don't know why anyone would develop the coin in this case.

Of course many coins will be distributed by PoW. It is absolutely necessary because the users will be the miners in this design. And they will need coins to avail of the microtransaction ecosystem (think new social networks, dating sites, etc). Thus the small morsels they mine will mean big time features they can avail of. They will perceive a much higher value.

You think I am joking when I say I am going to kick your loser ass.

Smooth you see I told you the bullies would try to attack with the SEC. It is always like that. They are such assholes. They only know how to destroy cryptoland. Btw, the SEC has no jurisdiction of non-USA persons and controlling groups.

First of all, you are conflating. I said I might raise some angel investor funds to go to Australia to get a fecal transplant. The SEC has nothing to do with angel investment via the controlling group which pays to me for my services rendered. The talk about raising money at an ICO was future looking and has nothing to do with my current health needs.

Also since that time, my research revealed that the doctor in Australia likes to use high doses of antibiotics pre-FMT and I believe high dose antibiotics is one of the factors that caused my gut dysbiosis and resultant M.S.. Thus I was preparing for a self-administered fecal transplant locally here in the Philippines using my gf's sister as the donor and putting her on a strict diet before hand. But since I've had some success treating myself with an all vegan diet (after a 10 fasting in late August) coupled with Kombucha tea, I have for the moment put the self-administered fecal transplant on hold.

You are so cruel. You rub salt into the wound of a severely ill person with a disability. I'll be sure I remember this when you have some bad luck.

You bullies are searching for any means possible to try to scare investors and discredit my work. It is so obvious.

Watch and learn.

You are too damn lazy to do your research properly and then you libel me as a result.

You've got all the facts wrong. First you have the chronology wrong. Back in July or August, we entertained some potential angel investors via our controlling group. I also made a series of posts over in the Economic Totalitarianism thread for those who were asking me to help fix problems in cryptoland, explaining about how we might go about distributing coins and raising money in the future at some unknown future launch date. This was all hypothetical discussion about what may or may not take place. It was to help those who might want to be angel investors make some decision about whether they wanted to be in contact with our controlling group. However, the controlling group did not raise any money from them. There was communication with about a dozen individuals in private and only communication.

There is one angel investor (apologies I misspoke earlier and said I have two, meaning there is another one ready to invest at any time) who funded my controlling group and the controlling group has provided me some operating funds, i.e. paid for my services on developing the coin and doing public communication. So far, I have written two earth shattering white papers, ported the I2P EdDSA code to Scala, ported my Javascript implementation of Blake2 to Scala. If I wasn't here answering you, I'd be coding right now.

After all that, I made a thread here in the Altcoin Discussion to get some feedback on the name and potentially solicit interest from other developers that might want to work on the project. That is not 'promotion' of a coin nor is about raising funds, because we don't need any funds. I have another angel investor willing to give the controlling group $25,000 any time I ask. There are a dozen other angel investors potentially interested in investing $3 - 5K each, although you assholes probably scared them away, but it doesn't matter because I have enough cash to pay my expenses until I finish the coin.


If you tell me what to do again, I am going to purposefully not do what you instructed. Stop talking down to me. I don't take commands from you.

Obviously we could pay developers from angel funds, future coins, or work for free in exchange for higher salary after launch. All of these possibilities have been discussed. For now I am the only developer, and I am taking the minimum financial assistance to pay my very low living expenses since I live in the Philippines. For example, my rent is only $350 per month. I also have some funds locked up at precious metal dealer for the past couple of years and still hoping he will give me my money. I think I may receive the last installment soon so then I am self-funded.


I am not handling angel investor funds directly. The one angel investor coursed the funds through the controlling group and I was paid for services rendered.

I did do some consultation work (on anonymity designs) for one of the other developers in Cryptoland and received some income for that recently.

You should note that the controlling group has already paid 4 BTC to the author of Compact Confidential Transactions to hold an exclusive over all discussions we had in private. I fixed that design and also extended it to hide values, payer, and payee.

Believe it or not, I am going to shock you.

So you have no plan as of yet as to how you will distribute the Coins, nor of this controlling group or any project costs, is this correct?

It does not seem like you know yet how you will achieve initial funding or continued funding, nor the effects of price vs. mining as that concept assumes that you will have constant investment in order to counteract the falling price due to the cost of mining.

This is not to discredit your work, I'm sure if it gets completed one day it will rest on it's own merits, however if you are spending money on lawyers and trying to sue everyone for libel any time someone challenges your ideas then you are going to waste a lot of money, which could be put to better use elsewhere.

This is not an acceptable answer and equates to "I don't know"

So to summarize, you have no inflation or distribution models, no plans for adoption, no method for initial or future funding, no examples for tests or product, yet are threatening lawsuits for people calling it vapourware.

Do you have links to your whitepapers you published?

I believe the controlling group is fairly certain it will distribute some coins via trickle ICOs post launch as specific development assignments are tasked to build the ecosystem. And it will distribute the rest of the coins via proof-of-work to the users of the coin. Mining will be unprofitable if we achieve that technical design goal. Only users that send transactions or who don't count their insignificant electricity cost will mine.

Project costs will be as high as we can find ecosystem projects to fund and the market cap can bear. Because that is a virtuous upward spiral.

I assume all these specifics will be set by launch.


Are you deaf, dumb, and blind? Did I not tell you we had nearly $75,000 of angel funding lined up and ready to go. We haven't availed of it but it is there. And I haven't even included my friend rpietila in that.

I told you that the latest plan is trickle ICO after launch for continued funding.

Miners won't be selling. They will be spending the coins in the ecosystem, driving the velocity of money higher, driving the prices of the coin higher.

Did I mention I am going to kick your ass. And you should just watch and learn some new tricks.


How I spend my personal funds is none of your business.

Why the fuck are you trying to control my life? What is wrong you people?


You were told earlier in the same post and that was a test of your reading comprehension.


Did I not write already that the Smoothie's libel is accusing me of being a scammer and having no evidence that I am a scammer.

Have I not explained to you that I am not promoting any coin. I am here in the Altcoin Discussion forum and was discussing the idea for a name of the coin I am in development on and soliciting discussion on the development and potential developers. This is a normal mode of open source development.

Open source development is not scamming.

You guys have some serious retardation with reading comprehension and definitions of words.

No. I will repeat for the 10th time, that I am not going to reveal the intellectual property to non-developers of the coin before launch. Why should we give away our secrets to our competition. Duh.

If you do a trickle ICO with POW mining then miners will sell their Coins, at some point the mining will be profitable and if not then people will not mine it. Miners always sell because they need to make ROI on their investment in the mining hardware.

If your project costs are as much as the marketcap can bear then it will cause a crash in price and investors will be left holding the bag for years.

If I were an investor in your project and gave you my money, you could be damn sure it would be my business to know what that person is spending my money on and whether it can be justified.

You want people to "trust" you but will not go out of your way to provide undeniable proof of the things that you are claiming, this equates to negative trust.

You said you produced some whitepapers, I wrongly assumed that would mean that you would produce some technical papers or proof of the things that you are claiming, my bad.

Mining will be unprofitable if we achieve that technical design goal. Only users that send transactions or who don't count their insignificant electricity cost will mine.

How is it fraud of any kind if the investors are told that's what their investment will (or may) be used for?

I suppose you are thinking that if I want people to believe my predictions of a Bitcoin low price this Spring, then a raging bull market after that, then I need credibility?

Have you ever considered that I don't really care if fools want to lose their money. I offer information for serious people. Fools will do what ever they want to do. It is not my job to make my credibility perfectly politically correct so that fools won't be fools. You wish for the implausible, as any good socialist does.


My signature line has my former usernames.

Again perfect credibility is implausible and when it seems to appear, it is the lie of the politician that says everything everyone wants to hear, i.e. socialism and promising the implausible. Remember Ethereum?

Did you know that Ethereum was basically hatched by Charles Hoskinson. Do you know who he was recruiting to be the lead developer after he split with Daniel Larimer and before he found Vitalik Buterin. Yes he was talking to me in Skype. But I told him my ideas weren't yet well formed enough and I could sense he wanted to create a bloated financial structure, so I declined and after that he found Vitalik. He asked me to look at Vitalik's white paper for his early version of a proof-of-work hash function and I told him frankly it wouldn't be resistant to parallelization. Later Vitalik realized I was correct.


Incorrect. Armstrong's model is a statistical and structural A.I. model of chaos. This is science. And no he is never wrong about the major trends.

And no we are not wrong about the dollar. Fools again will choose to not believe us and again they will lose. Just like when we told them back in 2011 that was the peak in gold and they rode the damn thing all the way down. And we are still telling them the coming lows are below $850 (< $700 likely) and for Bitcoin below $150 ($100 likely). Just like when oil was $100 in 2014, and Armstrong predicted the closing price for 2014 at $54, which ended up being exactly the case. No one else saw that one coming. Or for example how in May of this year when Bitcoin was in the low $200s, I said the summer high would be $315 and then it would head back down for the coming lows under $150. Or just like my silver prediction in 2010:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article23786.html

Please I don't have time for the fools. I can't write a refutation every time they spout off their foolish mouths. They will be wrong yet again.

Did you just reveal that mining has a proof of burn involved because I don't see any other way for that statement to work otherwise.

Does it really matter why I choose to do what I do with my personal matters?

I created ion.cash username, so it will be clear the distinction between official posts for that effort to develop a coin versus anything I might post that is my personal commentary on divergent topics.

Anonymint was closed by Theymos on my request (because I didn't think of the idea of just scrambling my password, apologies to Theymos) to try to discipline myself to stop wasting so much time posting in forums.

I came back after some weeks hiatus. I tried a few more times to quit the forum by scrambling my passwords. Finally with this current username, I started to gain some traction of followers who were starting to observe that my predictions had been coming to fruition. Thus I decided not to change it even though it was a poor choice for a user name.

For those who are doubting how there would be natural cycles that repeat, remember the Sun has a cycle and it deeply effects our food supply and climate which thus impacts our economy. I hope you all are ready for the Little Ice Age coming over the next decades, which will radically reduce the ability of Northern Europe and other areas to feed itself:


http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/34854


http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/37141




http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33918



http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35118

I already told you that if users are required send PoW with each transaction and they don't care about their insignificant electrical cost then PoW will be unprofitable, especially if the CPU-only hash has been well designed to be within an order-of-magnitude of the potential ASIC optimization. In my recent archives (July?), smooth and I estimated this order-of-magnitude for Cryptonite at between 1 and 2, and I believe mine may be slightly better than Cryptonite.

There is your first example of me doing something technical you formerly thought is impossible. And there will be many more such cases. Stay tuned...

Crestington I couldn't discern upthread if you were just setting me up to attack me. I see that I think you are sincere. I agree I shouldn't be doing the PR dialogue with users. There was a time when I was younger and more idealistic, when I was better suited for that. Life has beat me down and I am not so cheerful all the time (years of chronic physical pain and struggle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc)). Maybe if my M.S. remains in remission, then some of my former passions for interacting with people and making them happy will return.

Why Armstrong Can Predict The Future Inspite of the Butterfly Effect of Chaos


I bring to readers' attention the link to my posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=372346.msg11563576#msg11563576) within that "triggering the double pendulum" argument about the unpredictability of the Butterfly Effect of chaos.

Order is relative to the observer. For the macroscopic observer, the chaos at the microscopic level is significantly irrelevant to the order that is perceived at the macroscopic level. This can be further extended to the chaos (Butterfly Effect) we perceive at the human level, is significantly irrelevant to the order that the Earth perceives relative to the Sun's cycles. This can be further extended to the chaos the solar system perceives is significantly irrelevant to the order that the Milky Way galaxy perceives.

And these relative perspectives are not just on the scale from microscopic to macroscopic, but also in terms of the number of dimensions considered. For example, if a human considers space and time orthogonally (http://unheresy.com/The%20Universe.html) (what most humans perceive except for the occasional Doppler effect that humans can typically perceive with their senses), one gets a different reality than if one considers spacetime as in relativity (what governs quantum mechanics and astrophysics). Armstrong's model has pulled such multi-dimensional order out of what we normally perceives as chaotic because we only consider the market price data in one or two orthogonal dimensions.



Edit: the "strange attactor" is a hidden order in what normally appears to be chaotic from a different perspective. Thus finding that order is about reorienting your perspective:

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/research/economic-thought/by-topic/chaos-theory

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Edit#2: Why Cycles Must Exist

I provided a theoretical proof of that in my 2012 essay on the The Universe in the section Matter as a continuum (http://unheresy.com/The%20Universe.html#Matter_as_a_continuum).

Armstrong explained it with less theoretical precision than I did above.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/11934


Armstrong's point is that energy is required for change, i.e. for any system to be alive and not static and dead or in other words for any system to exist and be perceived. Without energy, life does not exist. And then he notes that energy moves as a wave through a medium.

But why a wave (i.e. with a frequency and thus a cycle)? Friction. Without friction, then the speed-of-light would be infinite and the past and present would collapse into an infinitesimal point and nothing would exist. You see that for energy to exist, friction is required. But friction then gives rise to momentum and inertia. And momentum and inertia cause overshoots and undershoots, which thus leads to oscillation and coupling (resonance). And thus the fundamental matter of the universe is frequency and phase.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/armstrongeconomics-wp/2013/05/Starlings.jpg

Anonymint, good to see you're still around. Ethereum was a joint effort with many people involved from the beginning. I did my part as did Vitalik and the rest; apparently, the Ethereum org doesn't want to call me a founder thus I guess my role was minimal, but it was a lot of fun. It is true Mint and I had many discussions about finance both during my time at Invictus and after. My memory fails to recall all the things that were said, but I do like his outside of the box thinking and also love of Scala. Although I'm still a Haskell man.

Cheers

I don't know much about Armstrong.  I have a feeling it's not really modeling any of this stuff to the extent people claim, and is only using primitive calculations like figuring out the total amount of liquid capital on earth, finding what markets it resides in, then just like how wind is a pressure gradient, uses past market history as a prediction model, then calculates where money flows from there.

So yea, it's a lot of work linking together all those prediction models of each sector, but it could give you very accurate analysis.  The only problem is, you're not being told to "buy google on X day", you're just being told when things like gold are likely to be in a bear or bull market.  This prediction analysis is probably used to shave money from the market with indexes yearly, and I bet it gets them wrong a decent amount of time as well.  There's no way it can't get things wrong a lot when we have a centrally controlled market, unless he has a friend working at the 50 tentacle squid.

Not sure what thread is now the right place to post technical questions, so gonna post here:

* If there is no mining incentive, why mine the chain?

* If difficulty is low enough for joe public to mine their own transactions (and assuming only the sender can mine his own transactions), doesn't that open the chain to attack by server farms under the control of one individual?

This guy's post and my response to it I think define what "Blockchain 3.0" will be and what metrics are actually important for it:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18434.0.html

Armstrong has stated that predicting specific events and the short-term is much more noisy. Precisely for the reasons I have stated, which is that the chaos relevant to our needs is much more dominant in that case.

His model is incorporating the largest database every assembled on this subject matter. He invested over $1 billion in inflation adjusted dollars just compiling the database. His A.I. models have searched for hidden order in many dimensions. And thus the model is likely more sophisticated than you are contemplating.

It does do short-term prediction, but with time and price as orthogonal predictions, thus leaving a wide variability for outcomes. For example, back when oil was $100+ the model predicted that if time and price coincided, then the closing price for 2014 for oil could be $54, which was precisely the outcome.

So yes the big turns of major macro economic trends are much more predictable. For example, back in 2012 he predicted that the DJIA stock market would reach at least 18500 by 2015. It was unclear if the phase transition would be before 2015.75 or after, and it was dependent on whether the public confidence in US stock market would invert its public vs. private role and join private assets for their renewed bull market after 2015.75.

We Are in the 21st Year of Declining Temperatures

It is amazing how government is trying to claim the existence of global warming, simply to introduce a carbon tax. We are entering the 21st year (http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/17/satellites-earth-is-nearly-in-its-21st-year-without-global-warming/) of declining temperatures; not rising temperatures. This is akin to the tax on cigarettes; people smoked less and governments cried that they were losing revenue, causing many places to tax electronic cigarettes. Governments are also losing tax revenue as cars have become more efficient. Gasoline sales have declined as many cars now have pollution controls with better gas mileage. Additionally, more people are buying from the internet and driving to the local mall less. The solution to the collapse in tax revenues: states are now preparing to tax people based upon the number of miles they drive, requiring odometer readings to register cars. It is never about what they pretend to care about – it is just a new scheme to raise taxes. Regardless of the truth about global warming, governments need this bogus research to raise taxes.

The global warming crowd is the MOST unethical and corrupt group of pretend scientists ever to exist. When I was called upon for research to form the G5, I wrote the White House a warning that manipulating the dollar down would create volatility and a crash within two years (1987). I was told I would never again be asked by government for anything. They told me outright that I was to conduct the studies –– government would provide the conclusion up front –– and I would earn millions each year for bogus research reports. I said, “No thanks!” This is how the government conducts and funds studies. They ALWAYS tout the desired end result to support some predetermined objective. Government studies are simply an exercise in political corruption, no matter what the field.

Global warming is another great scam. Clearing the air – yes, we all want that. Yet it is extremely arrogant to assume we have the capability to alter the climate cycle.

The reason I say this is that in the last 20 years we have seen the hottest years on record.

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be been funding lies.

There is not really a cooling "trend" shown by his source.

Sea Ice Has Expanded Hundreds of Miles — Welcome Global Cooling!

Volatility has been greater perhaps but fact is we have a 21 year cooling trend and the powers-that-be have been funding lies.

And humans can't alter the climate. They can alter their environment yes. But we can't have that debate here. There is an entire thread about that in Politics & Society thread entitled something like, "Reddit bans debate on Global Warming".

The debate is uninteresting to me. Only people who haven't really studied the science or who lack IQ (or rationality and motivation) will think there is still a question on this matter. For example, the smart posters such as Spendulus and Wilikon know this.

I am saying I don't want to debate it. Waste of my time. Apologies I am not trying to be condescending to you. I hope you expend the effort I did to study. I am done on that topic. I raise your attention to the Little Ice Age that is already starting. Btw, anecdotal the weather is getting much cooler in the Philippines. Used to be so damn hot here when I first arrived in the 1990s. Now I can jog in the middle of the day. Maybe I've acclimated, but we have all these other strange effects going on such as severe drought. The USA climate is radically changing too with drought and the Pacific NorthWet is now the NorthDry. My mother in Washington State loves the change in the climate. I went into great detail about how the volatility in warming was part of the shift into global cooling some where in my archives of one of my usernames. I can't possibly go dig that up now.

Edit: a Little Ice Age is not the same as an ice age. It is sufficient lowering of temperature to cause drastic climate effects which impact food supply and natural disaster frequency. It will not be ice every where.

He is drawing on all his database and knowledge.

He linked a specific source. The source not only doesn't support his claim (if you read the text), it contradicts it (if you look at the graph).

His conclusion may be correct. His data in his secret database may be different. There may be all sort of supporting or contradicting evidence that can be linked from many different sources. I don't want to debate temperatures either.

I'm just saying he's either confused or bullshitting in that answer, when viewed on its own merit.

North America, Australia and New Zealand have all seen their hottest years on record recently, I've been there and experienced that.

U.S. Continuous Average Temperature Index – Discontinued

The National U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) monthly temperature updates have been discontinued. The official CONUS temperature record is now based upon nClimDiv. USHCN data for January 1895 to August 2014 will remain available for historical comparison. However, one must wonder if the data, which was demonstrating a cooling period rather than global warming, was conflicting with political agendas to raise taxes based upon false information.

Sea Ice in Arctic Sea Expanded by 33% As Earth Turns Colder

The BBC has reported that the sheer volume of Arctic sea ice increased significantly by about 33% after an unusually cool summer unfolded in 2013. Researchers confirm that the same pattern of sea ice expansion has taken place in 2014. The BBC reports that the scientists involved believe changes in summer temperatures have a greater impact on ice than previously thought. This is part of the long-term cycle. It is going to get colder in the years ahead and there will be more volatility. Those who continue to believe in global warming do so because that is what they want to believe. You cannot accept cycles in everything else, including markets, but deny that they exist in nature.

Meanwhile, real scientists who study the cyclical movement within nature are observing what we have been warning – a coming Ice Age, not global warming. We should see the collapse in temperatures faster than we suspect, for it will mimic a Waterfall Event in our market terminology. This is the true nature of how things simply move. Real scientists are starting to warn that we will see temperatures plummet by 2030. We are entering the Maunder Minimum Petri Dish of Political Change and nobody seems to comprehend the political ramifications ahead.

During my European tour, I packed only summer closes. I had to go buy sweaters for it rarely went over 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15 Celsius). It did not get warm until I arrived in Italy and Spain.

Our model tracks everything including climate for that too is a major influence within the development of the global economy. It just seems that whatever could go wrong is going to go wrong in the coming 26 years from 2007 in many areas, so the other side of 2032.95 is going to be a different world. By the way, global warming peaked in 2007. So for all the supporter of global warming, try doing as you preach. Give up your cars and start walking.

The real problem is not global warming but global cooling. In fact, we are in crash mode. Our model confirms that as we move into the end of this current wave 2032.95, the other side of that appears to be a very serious famine that changes the political landscape as took place in the period known as the Maunder Minimum. This is a serious forecast for during the last such period, the further north you are the higher the probability of starvation. Indeed Prussia lost 40% of its population to famine at that time and Scotland lost about 15%.

Maunder Minimum is also known as the “prolonged sunspot minimum”, which was a period starting in about 1645 and continuing to about 1715 when sunspots became exceedingly rare, as noted by solar observers of the time. Consequently, based upon running the data through our model, it appears that this is crashing faster than any time previously. This would tend to warn that we may exceed the record of deaths of the 16th century and that is not good news. Yet this is just nature’s way of trimming back the population like hitting control-alt-delete in computer terms.

During the last Maunder Minimum in 17th century, longer winters and cooler summers disrupted growing seasons and destroyed harvests all across Europe. This was the coldest century in a period of glacial expansion that lasted from the early 14th century until the mid-19th century. The summer of 1641 was the third coldest recorded over the past six centuries in Europe and the winter of 1641–1642 was the coldest ever recorded in Scandinavia.

The Maunder Minimum produced an unusual cold trend that lasted from the 1620s until the 1690s most intensely and included ice on both the Bosporus and the Baltic so thick that people could walk from one side to the other. So much for global warming pundits who are putting out such bogus research it is amazing. This crowd of con artists has created such propaganda that the world population is totally unprepared; by the time they figure out these people are bullshitting everyone for grant money, it will be too late to prepare for the onslaught. We could realistically see famine reach the 33%–50% mortality level after 2032.95.

The Maunder Minimum created such a deep cold in Europe and extreme weather events elsewhere that what unfolds is a series of droughts, floods, and harvest failures. Historically, this leads to massive migrations, wars and revolutions. The fatal synergy between human and natural disasters eradicated perhaps one-third of the human population during the last event and this time we are crashing more rapidly than before. Therefore, we may exceed more than a reduction in population of one-third and reach the levels of the 14th century of 50%, which was also combined with the Black Plague.

What took place during the 17th century suggests that altered weather conditions can have catastrophic political and social consequences. Political systems are already in crash mode with BIG BANG. Add to this the crisis we see in weather cycles and the world will be augmented by unpredictable crises involving water, food, energy supply chains, and public health. States will unquestionably collapse as famine could overtake large populations and flood or disease could cross borders and lead to internal instability or international conflict.

There were three primary factors at work globally during the 17th century that combined to produce chaos. There were increases in volcanic eruptions, twice as many El Niño episodes (unusually warm ocean conditions along the tropical west coast of South America), and the virtual disappearance of sunspots, reducing solar output to warm the Earth. These three forces combined are acknowledge by real Earth science.

The 17th century saw a proliferation of wars, civil wars, rebellions, and more cases of state breakdown around the globe than any previous or subsequent age. This was the Petri Dish that brewed the revolution against the monarchy that would give birth to the American and French revolutions. In the year 1648, rebellions paralyzed both Russia (the largest state in the world) and France (the most populous state in Europe); civil wars broke out in Ukraine, England, and Scotland, and irate subjects in Istanbul (Europe’s largest city) strangled Sultan Ibrahim.

The Maunder Minimum did not cause all the catastrophes alone during the 17th century, but it most certainly exacerbated many of them. Outbreaks of disease, especially smallpox and plague, erupted as was the case during the previous episode that saw the Black Plague wipeout 50% of the population. Plagues correlate to periods when harvests are poor or have failed. When an uprising by Irish Catholics on October 23, 1641, drove the Protestant minority from their homes, no one had foreseen a severe cold snap with heavy frost and snow in a place that rarely has snow. Thousands of Protestants died of exposure, turning a political protest into a massacre that cried out for vengeance. Oliver Cromwell would later use that episode to justify his brutal campaign to restore Protestant supremacy in Ireland. This was the period of the British Civil War with the Puritans beheading Catholic King Charles I.

The Maunder Minimum did take a more direct toll as weather turned bitterly cold. Western Europe experienced the worst harvest of the century in 1648. Rioting broke out in Sicily, Stockholm, and elsewhere when bread prices spiked. In the Alps, poor growing seasons became the norm in the 1640s, and records document the disappearance of fields, farmsteads and even whole villages as glaciers advanced to the farthest extent since the last Ice Age. One consequence of crop failures and food shortages stands out in French military records: soldiers born in the second half of the 1600s were, on average, an inch shorter than those born after 1700, and those born in the famine years were noticeably shorter than the rest.

The Maunder Minimum impacted the entire planet for very few areas of the world survived the 17th century unscathed by extreme weather. Even in China, a combination of droughts and disastrous harvests, coupled with rising tax demands and cutbacks in government programs, unleashed a wave of banditry and chaos; starving Manchu clansmen from the north undertook a brutal conquest that lasted a generation.  In 1644, peasant rebels led by Li Zicheng conquered the Ming capital in Beijing. Rather than serve them, Ming general Wu Sangui made an alliance with the Manchus and opened the Shanhai Pass to the Banner Armies led by Prince Dorgon, who defeated the rebels and seized Beijing. The conquest of China was not complete until 1683 under the Kangxi Emperor (r. 1661–1722).

North America and West Africa both experienced famines and savage wars. In India, drought followed by floods killed over a million people in Gujarat between 1627 and 1630. In Japan, a mass rebellion broke out on the island of Kyushu following several poor harvests. Five years later, famine, followed by an unusually severe winter, killed perhaps 500,000 Japanese.

The famines that hit India wiped out millions, weakening the population and the economy, whereas India had been the financial capital of the world after the Byzantine Empire’s collapse in 1453 to the rise of Islam. Following this devastating Maunder Minimum period of the 1600s, we can see that India fell as the financial capital of the world, handing that crown to China. India was ripe for the picking. In the first half of the 18th century, the British were a trading presence at certain points along the coast of India. From the 1750s, the British began to wage war on land in eastern and southeastern India. To reap the reward of successful warfare, which was the exercise of political power notably over the rich province of Bengal. By the end of the century, British rule consolidated over the first conquests and extended up the Ganges valley to Delhi and over most of the peninsula of southern India. The British then turned to China and eventually established Hong Kong, which was handed back in 1998.

No human intervention can avert the Maunder Minimum or volcanic eruptions, halt an El Niño episode or delay the onset of drought, despite the possibility that each could cause starvation, economic dislocation, and political instability. So sorry, I do not ask for donations to prevent this from unfolding. We do possess both the resources and the technology to prepare for them. It is possible to grow food in your basement without land. Hydroponics may become a very valuable asset.

In the 17th century, the fatal synergy of weather, wars, and rebellions, killed millions amounting to about one-third of the population. A natural catastrophe of analogous proportions today would kill billions. It would also produce dislocation and violence, and compromise international security, sustainability and cooperation. Country borders will likely change or vanish altogether. This is part of our forecast on why the USA will break-up after 2032.95.

So while we argue over global warming, we should look at history rather than fake research that attributes everything to the invention of the combustion engine at the start of the 20th century and respect that there just may be long-term cycles at work that can be documented from real data. If history repeats, the global warming crowd will be the first to go since they will be totally unrepentant and unprepared.

2008 Forecast: NYC Will Be Under Water by June 2015 – Oops

Seven years ago, ABC News reported a dire forecast on global warming, claiming that scientists predicted that New York City would be under water by June 2015. Well, they also predicted gasoline would be over $9 a gallon and a carton of milk would be almost $13. Well, hope you didn’t have call options on oil, eggs, and milk.

Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago

The Daily Mail released the numbers, showing all along that this idea of global warming has been just a natural cycle. London used to be horrible to live in during the summer, when the buses spewed out black exhaust. Today all the buses run on electric or natural gas, and to a large extent, the improved air quality has restored the city. However, that is distinctly different from actually altering the entire planet.

Traveling around Europe on this tour, I personally packed summer clothes but found myself needing to buy warmer things to wear, and should have brought a coat. It was unseasonably cool and did not become warm until I hit Spain. We are moving back toward colder weather, not hotter. The Daily Mail Wrote:

Climate Change – A Fraud to Justify More Taxes

The global climate change crowd really needs to be imprisoned. They have been deliberately creating a giant fraud that is just amazing. The low in the energy output of the sun was during the late 1700s. They have attributed everything to man and ignored long historical evidence that demonstrates that there is a cyclical beat to the sun, just as there is to your heart.

Anyone with a background in electrical engineering can tell you the difference between DC (direct current) and AC (alternating current) is straightforward. AC is adding a cycle to the energy that can be transmitted over distances. DC is a constant output at one level. As in economics, where people want to eliminate the boom and bust cycle to create a DC economic world. The problem is that resistance will wear down the current, and as soon as it declines ever so slightly, it ceases to function.

Everything in the universe functions to a cyclical beat. That is the supreme design of everything. This is not the Theory of Everything – it is the Fact of Everything. The global warming con artists are clever, but reveal either their stupidity or their total dishonesty. There is no in-between here. If they have not done their research historically beyond 1800 AD, then they are complacent, or have done so and are trying to find post-1800s examples to suit their tactic to get money.

So they are either stupid or criminal, but it is starting to look like the latter. A commission is starting to investigate their manipulation of data to adjust it like the government does to CPI, unemployment, and GDP. The British newspaper, the Telegraph, has led the charge in exposing the duplicity of the global warming crowd. I for one, think that they should be criminally prosecuted for what they have done.

Duke University Disagrees with Global Warming

Duke University has parted from the other universities who benefit from collecting money to further global warming theories. Duke has done what I have argued, they conducted a study based on 1,000 years of temperature records. They analyzed the whole thing and compared it to the most severe emissions scenarios by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). What they discovered is simply that global warming has not happened as fast as expected. The research claims that natural variability in surface temperatures over the course of a decade can account for increases and dips in warming rates. Hence, this is not a man-made trend.

Unfortunately, everything we have input into our computer warned that we were turning back down toward colder weather – not warming. On this score, Duke University seems to be far more objective than those seeking to create propaganda for global warming that the government can use as the excuse to raise taxes.

To say we do not have an impact on the climate is still foolish, because we do

No human intervention can avert the Maunder Minimum or volcanic eruptions, halt an El Niño episode or delay the onset of drought, despite the possibility that each could cause starvation, economic dislocation, and political instability. So sorry, I do not ask for donations to prevent this from unfolding. We do possess both the resources and the technology to prepare for them. It is possible to grow food in your basement without land. Hydroponics may become a very valuable asset.

When Mount St Helens erupted, President Ronald Reagan made this comment:


Reagan was right because automobiles principally emit carbon compounds, such as carbon monoxide, and nitrous oxides. Sulfur dioxide is not a problem with auto emissions. According to the US Geological Society untainted by the Global Warming/Climate Change Crowd, said:

“An estimated 1.5 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide gas was discharged by Mount St. Helens during the explosive eruption of 18 May 1980. Thus, approximately 2 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide was released during the whole eruption sequence.”

Consequently, there are two problems with the data. Even the EPA admits it cannot accurately attribute how much greenhouse gas is naturally created v man. If we add together the massive release of sulfur dioxide that occurred from Mount St. Helens when it erupted, along with the likely gas eruption before and after for five years on either side of the eruption, Reagan’s claim that he had “a suspicion that that one little mountain has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere of the world than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving” appears to be fairly close to accurate, and this was just his guess.

It appears that we would enter a White Earth Effect and die as a planet if the volcanic activity ceased. That is the source of warming up the planet again when the sun turns down. Sure, man may add to volatility, but we by no means possess the power to change the climate cycle. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof the the long-term 300 years cycle has changed. People who believe this nonsense should not read this blog for you you must also be a deep-rooted Marxist and believe all the BS of governments. If you buy into that, you might as well buy into everything they say.  Only an idiot can possibly think we have the capacity to alter the universe or how it functions. We are incapable of even grasping all the variables at play.

If you have a basement, you can grow your own food without land and this may be the next hot trend.

but let's say he is also right about the declining output of the sun by 2030 and we receive this mini-iceage, then it would not be so severe as he thinks because it's already being heated up, even needed to restore that balance.

http://armstrongeconomics-wp.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/09/Sea-Ice-2015.gif

I don't see how this is possible when they have been planning to setup trade routes now that the ice has receded so much.

http://www.cfr.org/arctic/thawing-arctic-risks-opportunities/p32082

rptelia is the main supporter
i guess he got paid well
what a scam

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I am contacting you because you have recently demonstrated interest in a certain altcoin project.

I am not one of the technical experts working on the project, I am just a middle man relaying messages between the team and potential angel investors. With that in mind, I will try to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and if I don't know the answer, I will consult the programmers or the controlling group and get back to you.

This arrangement has been put in place in order to allow the developers to fully focus on implementation instead of communication, as the tools to communicate privately are cumbersome and not usable on all development environments and locations - which as it happens is one of the things this project aims to fix!

I assume you have already read most of the relevant posts on the forums. There probably won't be any more public posts about the project until the launch gets nearer, so let's keep the communications in Bitmessage. I will create an account in the forums just in case you happen to lose your Bitmessage keys or it stops working or there is some other urgency, and will let you know when I have registered one.

If you happen to know personal details of any of the people involved with the project, considering the nature of the project and the things it could potentially accomplish, it would be appreciated if those details would be kept out of the discussions. If any of those people give an ok to release the info at some point, then that changes things, but as long as we don't have clear approval let's honor their right to privacy. Also, please keep everything we share and discuss with you to yourselves, including technical and financial details, as the consequences of the competition piecing leaked details together and getting the same sort or revelations our expert programmers have had could be disastrous.

In the near future I will detail a simple procedure to get near complete communication anonymity using air gapped Raspberry Pi/Pi2, which you can opt to use if you wish to have maximum privacy regarding your possible involvement in the project. Also there will be proof that I am messaging on behalf of the party that you think I am.

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Good questions! Some answers:

1. There will be a post in the forums from the user you have been following which will contain an encrypted "password" I will send you before the actual post. I have not yet received the password so the post hasn't been made yet. I will send a bitmessage to you all when I get the password, along with the instructions to decrypt the password from the post that will be made.

2. This I don't know yet. I would imagine angel investments could be needed all the way up until the public ICO, which is likely 4 to 6 months away still.

3. This is unknown as well. The intent is to use as little angel investment as possible, and request funds when they are actually needed. For example to pay salary for developers or crypto/math experts. If a developer wants weekly salary, then angel investors could send the payment to the developer once a week until the job is done. There could also be other needs, but the total amount is unknown at this point. What we need eventually though, is commitment to invest, so it will be known before the funds are needed that there will actually be funds.

4. The number of potential investors is between 5 and 10, and the amount you said appears to be close the median. It is a good amount as it wouldn't be an ideal situation to have one or two huge whales owning too large % of the coin.

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Thanks for your message. I understand everything, but I have some questions:

1. How can I be sure you are the one involved in the project?
2. When will the angelinvest-period end? In other words: until when can I invest and be part of it?
3. How many USD are you aiming for as an investment?
4. How many investors said the are interested in investing and how many USD do they want to invest.

I want to invest at least USD 3000.

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I am contacting you because you have recently demonstrated interest in a certain altcoin project.

I am not one of the technical experts working on the project, I am just a middle man relaying messages between the team and potential angel investors. With that in mind, I will try to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability, and if I don't know the answer, I will consult the programmers or the controlling group and get back to you.

This arrangement has been put in place in order to allow the developers to fully focus on implementation instead of communication, as the tools to communicate privately are cumbersome and not usable on all development environments and locations - which as it happens is one of the things this project aims to fix!

I assume you have already read most of the relevant posts on the forums. There probably won't be any more public posts about the project until the launch gets nearer, so let's keep the communications in Bitmessage. I will create an account in the forums just in case you happen to lose your Bitmessage keys or it stops working or there is some other urgency, and will let you know when I have registered one.

If you happen to know personal details of any of the people involved with the project, considering the nature of the project and the things it could potentially accomplish, it would be appreciated if those details would be kept out of the discussions. If any of those people give an ok to release the info at some point, then that changes things, but as long as we don't have clear approval let's honor their right to privacy. Also, please keep everything we share and discuss with you to yourselves, including technical and financial details, as the consequences of the competition piecing leaked details together and getting the same sort or revelations our expert programmers have had could be disastrous.

In the near future I will detail a simple procedure to get near complete communication anonymity using air gapped Raspberry Pi/Pi2, which you can opt to use if you wish to have maximum privacy regarding your possible involvement in the project. Also there will be proof that I am messaging on behalf of the party that you think I am.

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What ever the angel investors are investing before we get to the ICO phase, they will get M / 2 + 1 buying power at the ICO on the weighted average ICO price. M is the number of months between when the investment has been placed and the beginning of the ICO. There will be multiple ICOs, i.e. it will be a "Trickle ICO", where buyers can place bids to buy batches of coins while seeing other buyers' bids.

The weighted average ICO price will be set by the moment when which they agree to receive coins. So all ICOs up to that point will factor into their weighted average price. So thus they can decide which ICOs might be too small and not represent the market price. They can decide to wait to see if future ICOs are lower price. But they can't revert to the prior time once they've decided to wait longer to convert to coins. It is simpler this way than having the angel investors bidding at the ICO auctions with the other buyers, because the bidding will likely involve some sort of collateral or escrow to prevent fake bids.

So for example, an investment of $3,000 is made 3 months before the ICO. The investor will then get coins from the ICO for total of $3,000 * (3 / 2 +1) = $3,000 * 2.5 = $7,500

Chart for $1,000 investment:
6 months: $4,000
5 months: $3,500
4 months: $3,000
3 months: $2,500
2 months: $2,000
1 month: $1,500

As the aim is to take funding when it's needed, and it could be needed on weekly basis (depending on if additional programmers or experts are hired who want to be paid weekly) all the way up until the ICO, not everyone can go all-in at the beginning for the maximum M. On the other hand, the visibility increases and risk for the investor diminishes the closer we get to the launch.

If there is anything unclear, please let me know and I will try to explain better.

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As the SEC has a stance against unregistered ICOs, it is imperative that no communication outside Bitmessage is made that implies any specific individuals as being involved in the project. This offers plausible deniability. It would be best if we avoided mentioning any specific names even in Bitmessage, especially if you are using Windows computers to write those messages.

In other news, a very prominent programmer and notable member of the bitcointalk forums experienced in the technology that is needed is contemplating to join the project as a developer. He is earning up to $20,000 a month by doing work outside the crypto scene, but raising that much money at this stage is not what we want (the M factor would cause the angel investors to own too large % of the coin). There are ongoing discussions and negotiations to get him to accept coins (perhaps some part in coins some part in BTC even) until the first ICO where we'd like to raise $100,000, after which he could be paid in $ (or BTC) to finish the work getting to the main net and launch. The first ICO is likely to be held when the coin gets to testnet so there's something for people to play with and see it's not just vaporware, and the plan is to get there as fast as possible, with as little expenses as possible.

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Instuctions for a cheap option to employ an air gapped computer (i.e. a computer without internet connection that is not infected with spyware) for maximum privacy and security.

The plan in short is to use Raspberry Pi2 to write and encrypt messages, and then use another computer with internet connection and Bitmessage (BM) to send the encrypted message. And when receiving encrypted BM messages, to move the message to Pi2, decrypt and read it there. At no point are the messages in decrypted (plain text) format on the computer that is connected to the internet.

Note that using this method is not mandatory, but strictly optional for those who want maximum privacy regarding their possible involvement with the project. It can also be useful for storing cold wallets and other sensitive information.

These instructions assume you have a Linux computer with an internet connection, but using Windows or Mac should also be easy. I'll try this procedure using a Windows PC as well and write instructions if you happen to have Windows and can't get this done on your own.


You will need
  - Pi2 (and a power adapter, and an HDMI cable if you don't already have one spare)
  - quality microSD card (class 10, 8GB is recommended) for the operating system
  - another microSD card for transferring files between the air gapped Pi2 and internet facing computer, quality not important
  - two new USB microSD card readers, one for the Pi2 and one for the internet computer
  - new USB keyboard
  - new USB mouse

You might order a Pi2 starter kit from amazon, for example this one: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-Starter-Case--Power-Supply/dp/B00TFV5QTA which comes with a handy case that protects your Pi2 from damage. If you order a kit with more stuff in it, such as a Wi-Fi adapter, then do not insert the Wi-Fi adapter into the Pi2 as we want it to never have been connected to any network.

Be very careful not to mix the USB card readers - never stick a USB device into the Pi2 that has been used on any other computer! If the readers are identical, use a marker or sticker or tape to identify them. This goes for the keyboard and the mouse as well. Buy new microSD reader, new keyboard and mouse, and use them only on the Pi2. Spyware can infect all USB devices, and the air gapped computer needs to stay clean.

Also don't bother ordering the pre-installed NOOBS card, unless you get lucky, you will probably just get a corrupted cheapo sd card with the NOOBS on it that the Pi2 can't even read. That happened to me, and I bought a quality class 10 microSD and put Ubuntu MATE on it and it's working flawlessly so far.


Download and install Ubuntu MATE

Using your internet facing computer, go to https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/

Download the image, insert the class 10 microSD card into the USB card reader, and insert the reader into the internet computer.

Open a terminal window (use shortcut key CTRL+ALT+T or open it from the menu), and go to the folder you downloaded the image into:
  cd ~/Downloads
Extract the downloaded .img.bz2 archive to get the image file by typing this command into the terminal window:
  bunzip2 ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img.bz2

Check where the microSD is mounted by typing this command:
  lsblk
In my case the microSD was mounted on sdc, this depends on your particular system.

Write the image file to the microSD card as root by typing this command:
  sudo dd bs=1M if=ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img of=/dev/sdX
  (where the sdX is the microSD device name you verified using the lsblk command, for example sdc)

Writing the image will create a 4 GB partition on the micro SD card. It can be resized after the Ubuntu MATE installation is complete.

Remove the microSD from the USB card reader, and insert it into the Pi2's microSD slot (do not use the USB reader for this). Plug the Pi2's power cord in, and it will boot. Follow the Ubuntu MATE installation instructions, it is very easy. When the installer asks for user name, there is an option to encrypt your home folder. Do this, so if you lose your microSD card or it gets confiscated, at least your files in your home folder should be unreadable by anyone else.


Once the Ubuntu MATE operating system is installed and booted up, we can resize the system drive to its full capacity. Open a terminal window (use shortcut key CTRL+ALT+T or open it from the menu), and type the following command:
  sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0

The fdisk application will open, and a list of choices is presented. Delete the second partition by clicking 'd' and '2', then re-create it using the default values by clicking 'n', 'p', '2', 'enter', and 'enter', and finally write the changes and exit by clicking 'w'. There might be an error "re-reading the partition table failed: device or resource busy", but that doesn't matter, just ignore it.

Reboot the Pi2, and after it has booted up, open the terminal window again, and type the following command:
  sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2

Now you should have the full capacity of the SD card available.


I will detail how to actually use the air gapped computer to send and read messages next.

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These are the instructions for encrypting and decrypting messages on the air gapped computer such as the Pi2. Do not generate any keys on a computer that has been connected to any network or has had any USB devices plugged in that have been pluggin into other devices!

Again, this is optional for those who care a great deal about their information security.


# Generating encryption keys on the air gapped computer

  # You will need a public key which we will
  # use to send you encrypted content that
  # only you will be able to decrypt.
  # Using your air gapped computer, generate
  # a new key:
  gpg --gen-key

  # Follow the instructions, and select 1 for RSA,
  # 4096 for the key length, 0 for non-expiring key,
  # and when it asks for your real name, just make
  # up a name you'd like us to see, but please don't
  # use "anon" or "anonymous" or "user" because the
  # list of keys will get confusing when we import
  # your keys and have 10 keys called "anonymous"
  # there. You can leave email address and comment
  # fields empty. Then select O to save and start
  # generating the key (it will take a while). Also
  # make sure you don't forget the password that is
  # needed to protect your private key.

  # When the key is ready, export the public key
  # to a text file:
  gpg --export --armor > pubkey.asc

  # Plug the microSD card that is used to transfer
  # files between the air gapped computer and the
  # internet computer into the USB microSD card
  # reader, and plug the reader into the USB slot
  # of the air gapped computer. Do not mix the USB
  # readers - dedicate one reader for the Pi2 and
  # one reader for the internet computer.

  # Then copy the pubkey.asc to the microSD card:
  cp pubkey.asc /media/yourusername/sdcardname

  # Next eject the USB card reader (or shut down
  # the Pi2) and remove the microSD card from the
  # reader, walk the microSD card to the internet
  # computer, open the pubkey.asc, and copy-paste
  # the contents into a bitmessage and send that
  # to me.


# Sending from the air gapped computer

  # You will need my public key to encrypt the message.
  # When you have your air gapped computer ready, request
  # the key from me, and I will send the key to you in a
  # bitmessage. Copy-paste the key into a text file, copy
  # the file to microSD, walk the microSD to the air
  # gapped computer, and import the key:
  gpg --import pubkey.asc

  # Now check that you have my key imported:
  gpg --list-keys
 
  # You should see an entry with the name "Altcoin Project"

  # Write your message you want to send me into a text
  # file, and encrypt the text file using my public key:
  gpg -e --s2k-cipher-algo AES256 --s2k-digest-algo SHA512 message.txt
 
  # It will ask you to enter the user ID whose key to use to encrypt
  # the file. Type "Altcoin Project" (without the quotes), and hit enter.
  # If will ask for confirmation, just answer "y", and for other
  # recipients, just hit enter to finish.

  # Next, encode the encrypted file to ASCII:
  base64 message.txt.gpg > message.txt.gpg.b64

  # Copy the encoded file to the microSD, walk the microSD
  # to the internet computer, and copy-paste the file's
  # contents to Bitmessage.


# Receiving

  # Copy-paste the encrypted text from Bitmessage to a text
  # file message.txt.gpg.b64. Copy the file to microSD, walk
  # the microSD to the air gapped computer, copy the file
  # from the microSD to the air gapped computer's drive
  # (do not decrypt the file to the microSD!)
 
  # Decode the ASCII file:
  base64 -d message.txt.gpg.b64 > message.txt.gpg

  # Decrypt the file (you will need your previously set
  # password of your private key to be able to decrypt)
  gpg -d message.txt.gpg > message.txt

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I don't mind trying to answer at all, that's what I'm here for. I will relay questions to someone who knows if I'm unable to answer.

[1] There are no set dates or set amounts regarding funding yet. This is because the negotiations with additional programmers are still ongoing. We don't want to take money just for the sake of taking it, but when it is actually needed. This will both reduce the risk for the investors, and for the controlling group as well as they don't have to spend energy on managing and holding actual funds, not to mention the additional liabilities that would bring. But we are getting good information on the number of people interested in investing, so this helps to plan the project ahead. We are trying to get some concrete numbers for you soon and I will let you know as soon as I have them.

[2] At this time it looks like BTC will be used for payments. Any altcoin could also be used to send BTC by using services such as ShapeShift.io. Currently the plan is that the investors will pay directly to contractors, so when a payment is needed, I will get a BTC address and amount from the controlling group (and I suspect also what the payment is used for), and will relay that info to you.

The white papers for network consensus and anonymity are currently being finalized, and some coding has already been done. The coding will soon proceed full speed, which also means the amount of work left and funding needed will become more clear.

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Hi,

Just wanted to confirm I've received all the messages from you. I've got a couple of minor questions, I hope you don't mind answering them.

[1] When does the pre-ICO peroid start? Am I already able to invest? I know you said not everyone is able to go all-in at the start, but having some kind of startdate would be nice.

[2] If I understood correctly, BTC is currently the only viable payment method? How do I obtain details for an investment payment?

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.0

the scammer just nuked my post there.
he wanted to originally spread his shit using bitmessage so the individuals wouldnt contact each other. here is the log:

Please if you are going to make a statement, be sure of your facts, because libel is civil offense that can be sued in court.

If you elevate your attacks to Cyberstalking, that is a criminal offense, at least in the USA.

Are you seriously going to respond to every negative/fud comment with an accusation of cyberstalking and a threat of legal action?

Stop using this forum if this is the only way you can solve/answer your problems.

the scammer just nuked my post there.

Looks like he's addicted to crack heavily and looks for schemes on making money to satisfy the habit

Looks like he's addicted to crack heavily and looks for schemes on making money to satisfy the habit

Are you seriously going to respond to every negative/fud comment with an accusation of cyberstalking and a threat of legal action?

Stop using this forum if this is the only way you can solve/answer your problems.

In fairness to TPTB, the thread is called "ion.cash "developer" a.k.a. Anonymint goes off the deep end."

Were you expecting a calm factual discussion?  Anything less than his usual lunacy would be false advertising.

This is my first exposure to UK politics today. But I can clearly see a lackluster reaction to this speaker compared to Corbyn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTXh9NG6Dg

What is the difference. I see it. Corbyn speaks idealistically about "a better world by being respectful of betterment and each other". He represents the starry-eyed youth takeover that AnonyMint predicted. Remember AnonyMint's research into the generational cycle of change which is quoted below.

Corbyn is very dangerous. This will become an ideological movement of the Hero generation of the youth. The high unemployment due to the shift to the Knowledge Age is the problem. Too many kids taking up useless liberal arts degrees.

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Oh, you're using PoW for what it was actually created for...who would have guessed haha.

Please place a Bitmessage address on your public profile (looks like a Bitcoin address but begins with "BM-").

Someone will contact you and attempt answer any questions you may have and give you additional details and instructions. They will explain how to verify that I have cryptographically signed that they are authorized to act on behalf of the controlling group for the project I have described. You will understand it after they explain it.

Please download and install Bitmessage. It is preferable that you do not use any web service such as bitmsg.me, because that particular website has not replied to my inquiries as to verify whether they do client side encryption and decryption (otherwise if they encrypt & decrypt server side then bitmsg.me & twee ladder agancias could in theory read all your messages even if the site connected via https instead http).

I will refer you to the following posts in which I described some of what is happening behind the scenes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12127776#msg12127776
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12175683#msg12175683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12180439#msg12180439
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg12173116#msg12173116

You will receive additional information via Bitmessage.

Note I won't be saying much publicly nor privately from here on. Your doubts and questions can be addressed in Bitmessage. Please note it will not be myself who is communicating directly with you in Bitmessage, instead the controlling group will be able to relay messages to/from me, and/or get my insights and answers to relay them in their own words, as well to get my ACK or NACK on any major decision.

Note if you are using Windows 8 or later then note these are spyware, so your communications with Bitmessage may be intercepted. Best would be Linux and there are instructions via Google searches for installing it for example on Ubuntu. Ubuntu MATE and Mint MATE are too very Windows-like versions of Linux which are very easy to install and use (point and click).

The most secure way to deploy Bitmessage is to run 7zip on an air-gapped computer and encrypt the messages, move them over via microSD to the internet facing computer running Bitmessage (using a separate card reader dedicated to each machine and only move the microSD card because readers can spread malware in the firmware of their microcontrollers), then copy+paste the base64 encoded text file into Bitmessage and send (or reverse procedure to read incoming messages). This is a hassle but very secure. If you'd like to use this method, please inform the person who contacts you on my behalf.

I removed initial orders. I will make some calculations and then put up some asks based on how many assets we want to sell

You can sign up to receive your free hcgmg shares here: https://goo.gl/forms/essgDtXhrr
First 100 users will receive 50 shares each
The shares are eligible for a 1% channel income dividend starting with March (calculated minimum $3 total, calculated minimum $750/1500 total at full distribution)

Details about the organization: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=8102.0
Details about share distribution: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6CloZiDzujBQ-QgKN2BFUfXKSrXkHGpkbzlU6ONt-8/edit?usp=sharing


Have a nice day

Hold on, you're barking about people slandering you, yet you've just gone and done a full and damning character profile based on just a photo.

Pot, Kettle......

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Please learn to have a higher IQ discernment please. This is the 2nd time you've overreacted because you've lacked a refined ability to discern nuances in logic.

Lol! There it is, that tone again!

Sorry mate but you know time is being wasted again today. How much code did I write today? 0.

I really don't care how you deal with them!  If you can't see by now that you aren't helping yourself, retort to my friendly advice with an aggressive stance, I really couldn't give a rats arse.

So you pop in here to tell me not to learn anything about how to organize potential angel investors and my reputation w.r.t. to controlling group actions that are not delegated to me.

Eventually you have to deal with details too if you actually threaten to release something and raise funds.

Nevertheless I almost didn't reply because in another way you are correct.

If you are 50+ yrs old and haven't learned by now how to best present yourself to garner investments and operate in positive social interactions, I fear you aren't going to.

Why are you always judging me? Do you think you know better than me? Then just say so.

I do not agree that I am doing it the wrong way. I believe I am demonstrating that I am capable.

You have your style and I have mine. Let us see which of us will succeed. Perhaps both of us will.

Your idea of best, is to be soft like a marshmellow. I don't know if you can handle the heat when the heat gets turned up.

You lack the ability to turn a blind eye and just get into what needs to be done.

You judge everyone, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

yet wonder why no one is taking you seriously.

Again you ASS-U-ME. You have no proof I lack that ability. How did I achieve the things I did in life without the ability to get things done?

Your condescending attitude is getting a bit overbearing. Please re-read my prior post. I added some bolded text about facts.

The proof is right here....

That is not proof of anything. Like you haven't wasted entire days in discussions on this forum. I've seen you do it and you are 3 years late already.

Kettle black.

tabnloz I had similar thoughts about the oil companies were raping Venezuela first, just not enough time to write it all down. Thanks for expanding on the thoughts.

Why do y'all think I want to make a rock solid crypto-currency. And then lots of ecosystem software from that money raised. I see the decentralized Knowledge Age as they only way the common man can break free of this top-down, dual-headed morass.

Fuseleer you know I wish you best with it. In the end, I want a system I can use. I will use the best system, even if it isn't the one I created.