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In progress peeps, some shit just blew up at an Arriana Grande concert in the UK, people were injured and killed. Not sure if if was organic, or a terrorist act, but the media is playing it real cool with the details ATM:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/europe/manchester-arena-incident/index.html

There are fatalities following an incident at Manchester Arena in England on Monday, according to local police.

In a Facebook post, Greater Manchester Police released the following statement: "Emergency services are currently responding to reports of an explosion at Manchester Arena. There are a number of confirmed fatalities and others injured. Please AVOID the area as first responders work tirelessly at the scene. Details of a casualty bureau will follow as soon as available."

The warning to stay away from Manchester Arena came after reports of two loud explosions during an Ariana Grande concert Monday night.

Greater Manchester Police tweeted that emergency services were "responding to serious incident at Manchester Arena. Avoid the area. More details will follow as soon as available."
British Transport Police told CNN it was in the process of closing some transport in the area.

Video from near the scene showed a caravan of ambulances heading to the arena.

More religious fanatics at work?

Yezzir, seems like it. No one has claimed responsibility but it's being treated as a terror attack, at least by authorities.

Greater Manchester Police say at least 19 people are confirmed dead in what is being treated as a "terrorist incident until police know otherwise" at Manchester Arena.

Bunch of kids here, this is all bad, man. Can't see something inadvertently blowing up twice, Ill go ahead and call it. This is gonna dominate BBC and related news cycles forever, terror + kids = international outrage. We shot off 50 bil worth of ordinance at an empty airbase because of pictures of terrorized kids in Syria. If a radical terrorist group claims this, this could turn into a really bad incident of civil unrest. The public will want its pound of flesh.

This is like the Shark Week of terrorism/tragedy. NYC, the additional campus stabbing, the double homicide thing where the white supremacist guy converted Islam and killed his two Neo Nazi roommates* because they wouldn't convert. I'm not making this shit up; you can't come up with something like that without writers.

And now this. It's starting to feel surreal again folks, these are indeed strange days.

* http://www.alternet.org/fbi-busts-atomwaffen-neo-nazi-florida-and-finds-explosive-radiation-materials

19 dead 55 injured. Being treated as a terrorist attack......Well no shit

Did not hear about this yet.
I think news does not travel quickly enough even in the event of a terrorist attack such as this one.
Even in our modern age of facebook and twitter to give out such alerts have not heard of this incident yet.
And I have to come to a bitcoin forum to hear about this which news not related to bitcoin?
Fail on the natiopnal security front I must say.
A failure to our national security... indeed. :-[

refugees welcome, diversity is our greatest strength, we must protect muslims from far right retaliation, tell me if i've missed anything out

Yeah... I am watching BBC News right now, and they are saying all these. Diversity must be protected at all costs... ROFLMAO. These people will never learn. By the time they realize what is going on, it will be too late.

No body mentioned muslims above poster. ::)
Only "religious fanatics" which can mean many of the other religions and not just the one you are straight to refer too which is to blame.

Edit (added male suspect as bomber found):

Official: Male Identified as Probable Bomber

confirmed as a terrorism incident

Ok then.
Just wondering what kind of tune The Donald will be singing tomorrow with his "Lets all hold hands and get along" speech he made with Netin Yahoo yesterday. :-[
You see him dancing with the Sheiks yesterday in the middle east? :-X

I'm still a bit sad about this, but I am curious to see how Trump spins this. He literally, less than 24 hours ago, painted a pretty and inclusive picture of Islam, a far cry from his campaign rhetoric and policy up to this point. The WH even claimed he was 'exhausted' when he forgot to mention 'radical Islamic terrorism'. That's bullshit, he wasn't about to piss off his hosts, that's being a bad guest. And besides, they have that orb that absorbed a piece of Trumps soul during that ceremony. If they unleash that shit, God help us ;)

 Given that he is the topic of the year, the media will embed itself into his ass, as it has been doing since the election. I personally don't side with the anti Islam shit, these are clearly crazy motherfuckers that give one whit about God. But dammit, this will fuel the anti immigration rhetoric for weeks. This was a giant 'L' for everyone.

Breitbart and Fox are going to be all over this.

What did you expected him to do? Nuke Riyadh? Trump is doing the right thing by selling low quality weapons to the Saudi sheikhs at 10 times the normal price. Let these idiots waste their petrodollars. Once they don't have any money in their wallets, it will be easier to deal with them.

This terrorist attacks were again possibly done by the famous terrorist group in the world the ISIS. The story also shows how the governments protocol on such cases has improved. But there is still a flaw and that is having a strict security so that there will be a zero terrorist attack in the area. Even though how strict the security in many places the terrorist has still find some ways to spread terror and death.

22 dead i had friends at that concert  >:(..

Islamic fucks god help your shops ;) and mosques around the UK ..
You have just got many many a Muslim fucked up for your actions..

Can you imagine what the British will do now petrol bomb your shops and mosques
and smash anyone in a BURKA ..

YOU DIRTY CUNTS I HOPE YOU ALL DIE ..

PLEASE BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF MUSLIMS ..

Thank you! Even if she did norhing wrong, she apologizes. She feels responsible.

What are the cuckfuckers of the failed security state of england doing? Nothing

Those english have bad influences on us services forces. They have james bond, we have john wayne.

Congratulations to the sino russian american israelis for their services. Yes americans have still to restructure the food supply, and others to understand that plants belongs to the earth. But safety is provided. May it continues.

So yes i am shocked and angried too. A few remarks:

Informations specially censored one will always be the most accessible near markets. Most internet users discovered it with facebook. Forget them for any edgy stuff.

The english security state is in a total dissaray. From the rotherdam 1200 kids exploited by pakistanis in open daylight (an orher cities), to saville and his crew of gentlemen, to this.

Fuck them! They aren't even able to update computers in the hospital!!! Wtf! But the war on plants they do...

Time to denuclearize, revoke un veto.

Unfit.

On a more pragmatic view after targeting transport hub, they moved to entertainement venues with young people... smart. Do you really thing english and more widely europeans do still have the mindset to face them? I don't think so.

American farm boys and "urban ghetto gangsters" with a few weeks of training can put a flag almost anywhere, including the moon, but not in the land of the rice farmers and said many time in siberia, if we had knew, we would have come...

Then we see those subjects worshippers of a royalty whose mind has been totally taken... structurally it's not sound. Maybe it's because of the constant need to reassert the narrative.

So 2 questions: is there a video of the explosion? Why only show dead kids produce of demographic warfare washed a shore and not people in manchester? Why not the name and picture of the operative? The american way.

Only solution: stalin collective punishement: the full security services of england must be purged with their support in the courts and among the politicians. If there was a king, he would do it, to save his head...

And all you can do is COPY..And shit copies     fall to bits in weeks..

 Do you really thing english and more widely europeans do still have the mindset to face them? I don't think so. The people will deal with it soon..

Muslim immigrants will be getting fucked up that much the UK will be known for smashing Muslims soon..

100 % Muslims will be getting fucked up all over the UK ..
And if your wearing clothes that tell us your islamic you will be getting smashed up..

The young thugs will be hunting you down..

Tony blair should be HUNG for high treason..

My condolences to those in Manchester and thoughts to the families affected, a lot of children died at this concert, considering it was Ariana Grande performing this would be similar demographically to a Justin Bieber concert.
It just goes to show that terror strikes target the young and the old and show no mercy, I guess we will just need to wait for the terror release and their motivations into this bombing to come out now.

No the cops will arrest you and a judge will say that you are a dangerous racists according to the laws passed by their politicians friends... unless you are with the exiled russians. Even sadiqiki the great mayor of the capital knows. But this is another story that softies from the west can't understand... and so after having jailed you for your dangerous belief, i am curious to know what those gentlemen will do...

Go back to your beers... if there is still a pub open. i am sure you aren't man enough to walk newham... demography is a bitch. And then longer denied the stronger it grows or dies.


No offense to the bibs fan, but the demographic was more to my liking (to not say better:)).

Sadly it's just the beginning france having lead the way in targetting young popular events...  the motivation of the ennemy are written by the victor in the conflict.

What you attempt is, the failure, you are already on the idea battlefield rather than on the battlefield. As long as the ennemy is defeated all the rest is useless.

A better and old question: who is benefiting and it's other on who is losing.

One sure thing the life expectancy of barbara spectre lerner and her friend is dropping fast...

My only problem with arianna when she spited on the cupcakes at the backery before putting it back...

Islamic crazies don't realise that what if one of those children is a big drug dealers child they have killed..

Pay the young poor white thugs £100 for a mosque blew up and a kebab shop anyone who blows them up will get a £100 pounds..

Plenty with millions and millions where i live from drugs and you bet they went that concert..

Even billion pound drug dealers..

You dirty bastards went to a children's concert ..
Man my government better do some damage..< revenge No excuse for a children's concert so no guilt
for revenge ..

You islamic fucks went to far this time ..

Sikhs Hindu we know it's not your religion and i know you hate them as much as we do..
we will get shut soon so we can live in peace ..

ISLAM is the religion of crazies ..

LIKE ZOMBIES how do you get rid of a zombie BLOW IT'S HEAD OFF..call of duty ;D

Takes offense to the Bib's fan statement Bah at least Grande was attractive, that said death is death and terror for terror should not be forgiven.
Blood for Blood and Tooth for Tooth does not mean forgiveness.
If the terrorist released a sob story about how America or the allied powers bombed and killed his children and that was why he was radicalized.
Then in his pain heard there was a concert in Manchester and specifically chose that day and event to make the West feel the pain of a lost child, you would for sure see condemnation all across the board and not a shred of sympathy since people died.

War is War motivations aside the conflict does cause pain all around.
https://twitter.com/ArianaGrande/status/866849021519966208
broken.
from the bottom of my heart, i am so so sorry. i don't have words.

Just come on news saying mental health issues ..WHAT :o.
ISLAMIC ISSUES you mean..

Revenge revenge revenge and you could be a non believer REVENGE ..
What i am only walking down the street   no your an infidel and REVENGE REVENGE REVENGE..

Crazy fucking religion..WIPE IT OUT..

Ban mosques ban islam ..

That was an act of WAR..What was different to 9/11 we went to war over that..
Now war over this..
Means if we are at war with islam we need to get islam out..

You don't have the enemy walking around our towns..

Get the ISLAMS OUT ..
We will be having this all our lives if we don't boot them out..

And YOU TONY BASTARD BLAIR..Do you see what you have done..

LABOUR POLITICIAN as just come on the TV and said think of something positive about the situation

WHAT THE FUCK..LABOUR I HATE YOUR PARTY..I was a die hard labour now i am disgusted in your SHITTY PARTY..

You islamic crazies better pray it's not like TOY SOLDIERS..

Toy Soldiers (1991) - YouTube
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If you remember the MAFIA dudes son he says i will blow every shop all around the USA if you touch my son..They wont be 1 left standing..

So pray it's not a big time gangsters child..
Because be assured they will be seeking revenge ..And with plenty of money and guns..

In short your opposition is the barbara specter, assassins and cover up of keith rich, and those connected to the podesta/weiner laptops. But then you can look at the bio of christine amanpour and her husband... apprently they use islamic fighters (rapists, terrorists, rapists, social wefare drainers) for a specific aim...

What could it be? Because they want to make believe that islam can't be opposed... look some do, and succeed.

So some part of the western traitors use them for a goal.

But again it's irrelevant: 1 determine the ennemy 2 its support group 3 wipe.

So again they resort to their classical mental health problem... like the afghan who raped a boy in an austrian swimming pool whose excuse was a sudden sexual urge.

Now you want to look at something interresting, look at the order of the ennemies in the us oaths...

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpresscore.ca%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F12%2FUS-domestic-enemies.jpg&sp=eaf6c6e1389e4b1c1b61525ed13d2df7


Those guys were smart, so why they put first foreign? Rememeber they knew their religious texts by heart.

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True 2000 years ago, true tomorrow. The ennemy only learned to cloack itself better... the algos see them all.

The enemy i like that bit ;)..
But the enemy also must know if you come here you get fucked up..
Example..A muslim shall we go to the UK OH no i heard they fuck them up for being into islam..
so as a muslim i will stay away..

No more muslims..They stay in there lands we stay in our lands..

Believe me the hatred as multiplied 100 fold for islam..
They attacked young girl children ..
Really brave NOT..Pussies ..

My government have no balls ..

CHURCHILL I AM SORRY MAN..You be spinning in your grave..

I know to many fucking lick arse money grabbing Islamic loving politicians who love there money..

WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM..
You leaders are weak as FUCK..

In 1 week i seen a poor Russian get his head cut off  :'(
And now killing children in a concert.. >:( >:(..

IT'S FUCKING WAR..

 

terorist only teroris, don't judge about religion

They can't! According to their texts and way of life they breed superfast!!! As such doom is super close to them! So by design they are pushed outwards towards cuckified society and conquer them by force or simple demographic.

Just remmeber that the cicero was already in the doom... you can compare it with the caligraphs or reformulated the kung fu of expression through the signs is way more skilled, it comines the immaterial (spirit, soul mind what ever you want to call it; aka the breath) and the breathing (body).

Ps churchil like the french dude were muppets... created by the capitol, between 2 oceans.

Peace out by the way! Try to chill out (multipost), because otherwise they will arrest you... you don't wear a suicide belts and i bet your ied knowledge is very low, making you a safe way to earn pay.

Want something interesting : https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aydan_Özoğuz

FUCK YOU BACKWARD TWAT..

I bet he done it because Ariana Grande dances around in her skimps and hated the thought of it ..
should be covered up you see..
                      ^
So was about religion YOU FUCKING CUNT..

And again everyone is going all and out against Muslims...

For fucks sake we don't give a shit! It's not what's important ><

GO on and kill all muslims already! So once there is no longer any muslims you'll see that all that isn't linked to religion in any way but to how YOU (and I) act and how YOU try to take the profit of the globalize world.

Want to end terrorism? Stop enslaving half of the world. Extreme islamism is a symptom, not a cause.

I got children and few of my child's friends went that concert even asked my child did she want to go..
Now i am saying when i was a child i was brought up on the street and believe me if i was young now
i would be burning mosques throwing petrol bombs in shops and everything..

Now i am older and got a job i have a life so would not risk my life for somebody else .
But if that was my daughter i would be doing some shady stuff very shady..

And the police cannot do anything freedom of speech needs an action to be an offence ..
Well what i was only joking ;)..PROVE IT.. :D

My country is under attack you don't think my country will but me in jail for hating ISLAMs ;)..

This is what will happen more often this is what i am getting at..
But also could do it to the wrong person..

Croydon attack: Up to 20 people watched teenage asylum seeker ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
2 Apr 2017 - Croydon attack: Up to 20 people watched teenage asylum seeker beaten by gang, neighbours claim. Croydon The 17-year-old victim, a Kurdish Iranian, was targeted by a group outside a pub and was repeatedly kicked .... < YOUNG ADULTS..beating islam immigrants ..

This is our country and it will always will be ..Not a islamic state like they are trying to make the world..

The young street children know these muslims are trying to take over our towns..

And this as just made the hate even more..

Submission by fear or guilt? None works. To whom you believe to give order and by which authority?

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You tricks may work with the westies... but that's it.

It's the religion  ::)..And we know you don't give a shit and that's the point..

The only SHIT you care for is a book fall of bullshit..

I know how to finish it ban it plain and simple ..
Oh we can we will have war for a bit like 5 years or so and they will all be gone..

But if we just carry on and do nothing it will never stop..
Businesses loose cannot carry on as normal if to many keep going off..

Everyone will stay in..
If bombs keep going off every other week no one will go anywhere ..

Bad for business bad for your country and bad for your people..
So lets just wipe the badness out..

Like the way USA rounded the japs up..
We do the same ..

You stupid fuckers in politics if you let this grow even more I.E let them multiply in our own land
WE ARE FUCKED..

We will be the next pakistan or afghanistan in the next 10 years ..

Religious crazies in many numbers..

Look who will employ a religious person?..
To many problems I.E well my religion wont let me do this    or you are upsetting my religion so i will sue you..To many problems for work for a boss to be bothered ..

So more and more islams and crazy religions will never get employed because to much trouble
so because of no job they more likely to go NUTS..
And with the religion saying seek REVENGE they will come up with any excuse ..

SO YES I BLAME RELIGION..

I'm so glad Ariana is OK, would have been such a shame to lose her, and to terrorist attack of all things. I wonder what are the Brits going to do when they leave the EU and terrorist attacks continue. What's going to be the next logical step they can take to defend themselves against their own home grown jihadists.

Well answered and an innovative proposal: ban the quoran. Sadly it's incompatible with freedom of speech... but killing the readers... this is a completly different story:)

Then your example of the japanese descent internement camp is well thaught...

I would write your lawyer number on your body as the thought police must be on her way to get you!!! Don't forget you are not onlx describing the situation, you are in it.

Guess who works with sadiq the london mayor...

And frankly bring your family to a safer place... white fly first.

Yes looks like you have it under control.. :D

CHINA NEWS 100 MILLION Muslims in China - Islam is growing ...
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WARNING!!! this message is given so you can't claim after DEATH you were not WARNED! There's ALOT ..

Guess who works with sadiq the london mayor...Who cares ;)..

Never been scared to die..
Lets just say i am the guy my country calls if the shit hits the fan.. ;)<An invasion in my land..

So why would they lock a patriot up 17.5 million of us..

Attack my family i will attack your family..

Sigh...

Muslim/Islam is NOT a race! Stop screaming rasiscm and shit if you don't even know the diference between religion and race...



But what a sad act... Why the fuck would someone set off a bomb at a Ariana Grande concert...

All these lone wolf actions... So sad..

No worry they are organs banks... the number is closer to 25-50 millions. Most are descendants of traders from the silk roads (and bandits) and are chineses and there is no spread, aka localized issue, very specific. but thanks for the warning, situation is closely watched.


Why? Because you don't to be a slave of the new technocrats, maybe? And you are racist!!! Or reformulated islamophobist. You don't see those people invading and occupying the west as the great saviors they are. You opposes the global one world gov... oohh you are a bad boy! Worst dou dare to express it? Sowing doubts in their ranks... they may punish you through your daughter. Don't be brave, live.

It's easier to let them have it, relocate build and make better, smile when they collapse, to regain it. All positions have only value relative to the others.

They play locusts, play ice.

If your a muslim convert i will hope we do 2 times worse to you than an islam from a islam country..
You should be skinned alive..
              ^
Because you should know better..

Can you name me 5 big wars through out history which didnt have to do with religion?

Religion is the biggest scam of them all... Muslim, Christians, Katholics etc.. Nothing good came from religion...

This attack is also inspired by religion... Ever read the koran? It's a "how to make terrorists guide book".......................... I'm not saying the bible is better though...

To think we still grab onto religion so much as we do today... I'm ashamed of all humanity...


Fun sidenote: Try google the "technology standstill" during the dark ages...  ::)



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I get your point..BUT I AM BRITISH ..NOT A FUCKING PUSSY..

We will crush these fuckers AND WE DON'T BOW TO NO ONE..We are freedom and we will crush anyone
who tries to take it away..

I will never ever shut my mouth I WOULD RATHER DIE AND SO WOULD MY FAMILY..

We pride ourselves on freedom and we will never ever shut up NOT EVER ..
NOT EVEN IF IT MEANS DEATH..

We are BRITISH and we shall never ever be slaves..

See you live by china rules i live by British rules we shall never ever have our freedom taken away..
CHURCHILL ..
You on the other hand BOW to your leaders like DOGS.. :D :D

. You opposes the global one world gov... oohh you are a bad boy..

I don't i want a 1 world BUT if we all had a universal income and free education for all children
And the main one is NO RELIGION to separate us all ..THEN A 1 WORLD WOULD BE PERFECT..

All humans can then go where they like no worries everyone will all be looked after..

But you and i know why do we need immigration rules?..

10 jobs going in your town     bring 10 immigrants they will work for less ..
10 natives loose out and the families ..
Just one of many problems WHY WE CANNOT have globalism ..

Universal income free education free health care to all AND NO RELIGION..Then we can have a 1 world..

Would be nice ;D..

But no it's all about the competition and they are inviting cheap competition to wipe out the natives who cannot pay for the home they live in ..Because they live in a room with 10 others and send the money back home to buy a mansion in Pakistan of our benefit system..

This is definitely the work of the Islamic extremist, The British police are too complacent when it comes to protecting their citizens I believe a body search is essential for events like this. They have left their people down.

I always thought they could stop and search they did when i was a kid..
Even give you a smack around the head if you give them cheek..

And if you got really cheeky they beat you for it ..

Good old truncheon meat.. :D

Wow i am shocked when did they stop this..
If you looked shady you could be stopped when i was young and why not if you got nothing to hide what's the problem?..

And all police should carry body cams so they cannot plant anything on you because some do..

always get a bad what ever in any job ..Bad teacher and so on..

Body cams and stop and search will help..Nothing to hide nothing to worry..

Which makes you not really different from those "terrorists"

Funny though how they are terrorists while your soldiers are heroes.

I guess it's mostly a question of perspective.

When i was a child my parents would say DON'T YOU EVER HIT FIRST NOT EVER..
If he hits you then you hit back or they will be hitting you everyday..

Now we could talk about religious wars always hitting the population FIRST..
But in this day and age it's the ISLAMS .But it was the islam that started the religious wars in the first place..
Religion is suppose to be about non violence not in ISLAM..

1,400 Years of Islamic Aggression: An Analysis - CBN.com
www.cbn.com/spirituallife/.../understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx
But let's give the writer the benefit of the doubt and say that the author meant that "During the Crusades, Islam and Christianity first met." This, of course, is also

I wasn't born 1400 years ago so what have i done..ANSWER NOTHING ..So who hit who first?..

At least none of your friends died...

In the country of the Muslims every day many people die, they will take revenge on all those responsible for deaths in their country.

The same thought that you have now "vengeance", you see that you have not lost any direct relatives and already think of revenge imagine the Muslim who lost a direct relative?

"Our" soldiers act out of an order, and for their job and government.. lol..

Most terrorists "get" their orders from a badly written fantasy book.. Their ideal word is based on that book...

One more thing that keeps coming on the news is we should have tolerance for each other..

Well the problem is the ISLAMs don't tolerate what we west do so how can we have tolerance ..

They cannot tolerate they way we live..So explain how do we solve it..

We have tolerance we go to concerts to mind our own businesses only to be blew up by a religion that
says don't tolerate anything but what's in the KORAN ..

The koran is the only tolerance they seek..

So please stop with the bullshit saying islam is not the problem..IT IS THE PROBLEM.

Your backward beliefs hold no substance in the 21st century ..

Blame the religious fuckers with the OIL we just work and live..

unbelievable....every day shit happens like this...where will it go the next years?

Is ist confirmed that it was a Terror attack?

It is now just come on news ISLAMIC STATE claim the kills >:(..

Time to blow these up planes in the air and bombs on the islamics

And for petes sake if anyone leaves to fight for islamic state send them and there family back to where they come from..In a box would be nice but on a island making body bags for there kins..

You went below the belt this time way below the belt..

Music is the peace which unifies everyone and you attacked the children enjoying themselves ..

I am sorry for being so angry BUT that could of been me and my child..

See already muslims getting attacked on the street ..
Just come on news getting spat at and everything..

No way people will forgive this impossible ..
LOWEST OF THE LOW ..We invite you in set you up with a life just the same chance as my child and you kill us..WOW

This is the last straw..

This is worse than 9/11 because you went for children..HOW LOW CAN YOU GO..Nothing lower now..

So how does this work...

One lunatic with insane thoughts blows up a bomb in a teenager concert in Manchester. The man probably never even had contact with IS...

IS wakes up.. Hey there's been an explosion in Manchester done by a muslim.. Lets claim this attack!


Am I missing something here? Because this seems to be the case the last 24 months when something happens..

This terrible event,but unfortunately this attack is not the first and not the last. Now comes the third wave of Muslim immigration into Europe and America. The first wave was those who wanted to work and live better, the second wave was those who did not want to work and want to live on welfare, and the third wave is the most dangerous are those who just want to win for Muslims in the new territories.

Pick up a KORAN and read revenge revenge revenge then the mind starts going fuzzy and then the eyes go red and all you think is revenge revenge revenge ..

OH BUT WHY DO YOU WANT REVENGE ..Well it says in my revenge manual to kill the non believers and especially the ones who don't cover themselves you can use them as sex slaves ..

So have a guess what they do..

Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court | Daily Mail ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/.../Child-sex-gang-members-shout-Allahu-Akbar-court.html
2 Feb 2017 - Members of a Rotherham sex gang today yelled 'Allahu Akbar' in ... had been groomed, trafficked and raped in the town over a 16-year period.

AND NOW BLOW US UP IN CONCERTS CHILDREN..
And you wonder why we hate you..

BACKWARD ISLAMIC DIRTY BASTARDS ..You do the same in your own islamic shit holes too

YOU DIRTY GOAT FUCKERS..So don't blame us you CRAZY OWN CHILD MURDERERS kill your own if they
upset your KORAN..

Kick these horrible creature of ALLAH OUT..

I have said enough now .I might have an hart attack if i don't SHUT UP..

Bye bye islamic crazies we will want heads to roll over this..

As mentioned above, ISIS has ultimately claimed responsibility for this attack. Apparently they were tweeting shit about the arena some hours before this, for all the monitoring that the UK gov does, I'm going to need them to pay attention goddamit. I think they may have released a statement at this point, still researching this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/808077/Manchester-terror-bombing-explosion-attack-Ariana-Grande-manchester-arena-ISIS-twitter

An unverified Twitter account posted two messages and an image of an ISIS flag.

The messages appeared to predict the atrocity at the arena filled with 21,000 fans.

One message said: “Are you forget our threat?”

Followed by: “This is just the beginning.”

The tweets, which are not verified, are time-stamped at 6.24pm, four hours before the bomb went off.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack yet, although it has been widely celebrated by ISIS.


Thats changed subsequently. They also released a video, guy holding up a sign with "Manchester 2017-05-22". I dont know if it's legit but you would have to be a demon to troll this hard this soon.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/this-only-beginning-sick-video-10480115

..video has surfaced online showing an ISIS jihadist saying "this is only the beginning" after the Manchester 'terror attack' that killed more than 20 .

In the unverified footage, a man wearing a mask and sitting in front of a black flag making the ominous warning.

The man then holds up a sign bearing the words "Manchester 2017-05-22", a reference to yesterday's date.

Hours later ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack via the Reuters news agency.

The language is a bit biased (just pointing it out, not being an apologist) but facts are facts. Call it what you will, radicals have committed an atrocity.


Condemn this shit. But don't lash out blindly folks, if you are close to this. Understand who did this, and who didn't do this but might be a convenient target for your rage. I don't want anyone doing any dumb shit, calm down folks. Additional crunkery will only compound this misery. Stay away from public shit too, the sentiment us that this might not be the last of these. Be safe, be careful community.

Popcorn, a sincere message from me to you, heed me. I know this feels bad man. There is no way way to paint this, I won't insult you by trying. But be chill. I know the outrage is real, the anger is real, and while I don't agree with your views on Muslims, I totally get this. I don't have kids myself, but suffice it to say I've raised a few. If my lil sis (she lives music) would have gone to this, shit, if it were here she just might have; the thought of that fills me with a dread, and a quiet rage, something I can't grasp the edges of, but it's there, like storm clouds. But curb that anger. I won't sell you on a peaceful Muslim; you have made your views clear, and I respect them. But be the cooler head in this. And encourage your friends that want to kick some ass to chill as well. We don't need to compound this tragedy; let things run their course. It sucks, I know it sucks,. But anger directed at the wrong party is what killed those poor kids initially. Let's not strike out blindly in rage, lest we make the same  mistake.

Be strong. Be mad, but hold it together for us, broseph. Please be strong.

just for you i will cool it..I listen to wise words THANKS..

They let to many islams in and to many means they want there way of life ..
But they run from there way of life to come to my way of life and then they want there way of life ::)..

Very strange ..

You do know that this will not stop not ever till we show them our might..
We are standing back and doing nothing..

The only thing they want is SHARIA LAW..
They think if everyone is islamic then all will be peaceful ..

So why is Pakistan so peaceful? :D Go and live there it's so nice you are free to say what you like..

See we get the blame but if you look at history you will see who is to blame ..

Even before oil ARABS would kill each other in the desert ..Rob your tents the bastards ..
and fly off on a magic carpet ..OH no that's Aladdin ..

But the point is they are never going to give up on the FIGHT TO MAKE SHARIA LAW the law..
All over the world ..

Sometimes you can only fight fire with fire and this is one of those times..

They have gone to low and can you imagine a women in a burka walks past an alley way she be getting dragged in and battered ..

Some people will not be able to hold the anger but i will for my families sake and for humanity plus
you did cool me down with your words ..WELL DONE ;)..

Looooool:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_involving_the_United_Kingdom

Look at the bottom of the table, from 2000

I won't even talk about colonization here (though it could be seen as the main root of the problems) simply talking about the numerous wars you, and the whole occidental world, started in Middle East simply to get more oil and more money.

And then when you bombed entire countries, killed hundreds of thousands of people perfectly innocent, took their ressources... You say you've done nothing?

Questio of perspective. I'd say you're the real terrorist.

Exactly what's happening yup.

You even got some "terrorist attacks" claimed by ISIS where the guy has never been in a mosquee in his entire life xD

But ISIS claims it and after it's easier for governments to explain us that the real problem is Islam so no one cares ^^

Good man ;) I appreciate your level headedness, you would be rational right now to act very irrationally, and I wouldn't be able to blame you for that. I was a kid when 9/11 happened, I will never forget the looks on the faces of my instructors and parents. I had never seen adults so dark, especially my parents. I still have a poor taste in my mouth from that day, something you can probably taste as well.

 We will fix this. I don't know how, but dammit, we will fix this. Thank you, sincerely. Thank you.

That's true, countries like GB have been acting like hired goons and took part in various conflicts around the world, especially in Africa and Asia, that shouldn't involve them.
While this should be publically condemned, just like the invasion of Iraq, the actions of terrorists should be condemned as well. The people who walk the streets, taking their children to school aren't responsible for the actions of the military. They can't change anything and targeting them specifically is savage. If they want to wage a war they should bomb the parliament or some military bases, not cinemas and restaurants.

Ah so people aren't responsible for the action of their governments and military?
But we still have superior rights as being born in a country? And we live in democracy?

So... Two solution:
-We do live in a democracy and we need to take responsability on their actions -> we have to either accept terrorism or get rid of our governments and change policies
-We don't live in a democracy so we're not responsible for their actions -> we should make a freaking revolution and get rid of our governments and change policies

It seems everyone is keen to Islam and persecute them when that is exactly what leads to further violence. How about we consider funding Islamic schools that teach a less radical version of Islam instead. Fight bad Islam with a better version.

Why do you think that the Christian state should Fund Islamic schools? Besides, it will do nothing. Can you learn in elementary school is good, but then it can be subject to radical preachers. The less Muslims, the better for everyone.

What did the UK do 1400 years ago..
Romans killed us invaded us ..But do you think we should blow up the ITALIANS ..

Well i don't like roads and all the good stuff they brought us ..Romans you see..

No teaching children it's a western idea ..<TALIBAN

took their ressources. Me        where is my money..    Blame tony blair ;) and he got all the money..
But the biggest takers are your own leaders they give your people a backward religion to follow
and then pay our STUPID greedy politicians money to LICK THERE BUM HOLES..

But remember who is the worst the person who pays to kill or the killer..
Now remember if you got a country with poor what will people do for money YES KILL..

So just think they be lined up around the block to kill for a price..

50K kill him man they be lined up..
Saudi 400k HALF THE PLANET WOULD :D.

Man we have cuts cannot even see a doctor for 2 weeks ..
And you blame the UK wow..

Lets just get this right..
How many Arab countries have oil?..
How many want to sell to the west?

So now you got a problem just like some shit face drug dealers stepping on my patch..
Do you see one will do stuff to the other in order to sell to countries because it makes them the money..

And who is sitting on BLACK GOLD  and who looks like they own the world?..

SO SHUT YOUR FACE..

Free energy will help us get rid of tyrants with oil doing shady stuff to keep all that oil and money..
And the middlemen I.E greedy politicians making money from selling oil to there own people ..

Those people only care for the money..

Little story i have never taught my children religion i was taught religion now i want revenge for what happened
my daughter doesn't judge people even has a muslim school friend who she likes and i would never want her to hate that young child..

But a islamic religious crazies hate there own children if they do wrong by the KORAN
So what does it say about them..

You know like a pakistani immigrant who learnt english in his own land but come to the west they still want to live how they live..

Pakistan 'blasphemy killing': murdered student 'devoted to Islam ...
Video for blasphemy in pakistan▶ 0:55
www.euronews.com › News › World
14 Apr 2017
Those who knew a Pakistani student who was accused of blasphemy and beaten to death say he was .

Well, again..

Here we see that nice religion again.. Islam..

Maybe I should update my thread that I made last year showing how many people that is getting killed.

But this time its different.

They went low and went after children and young teenagers.


This seems like the beginning of a new kind of war.
This can in some way be seen like Hitler going after the jews.

This time, we go after the extremists.
Difference is, that the jews did nothing  wrong.
They did not bomb innocent civilians..

At some point, the majority will get enough.

And I hope it happens soon.

Yes indeed, Muslim radicals could do. But they are forgivable, they are animals, and that Christians better? In Russia, the guy gave 3.5 years of prison for it in Church played pokemon and posted this video to the network. Every religion is evil to humans.

If they say it was a Muzzie, I would be "meh, surprise me,".


But.... muh multiculturalism, shimmery, rainbowy, all-is-one woo!

This is very painful, this great tragedy happened at the Ariana Grande concerts, as arianators, this is a really painful tragedy. I immediately thought about her salvation, and was grateful she was fine. But the victim died in this tragedy very much, which I read there are 22 people killed, and it still can increase. But hopefully not. The world is completely insecure. Terror everywhere, and crowded places are their targets. We are required to be more alert.

So pathetic, mournful... speechless.
But we always make a mistake to bring allegations to a specific religion. After that, so called terrorist organization claim that they are the responsible for this. In this way we are being distracted from our fight against terrorism. We just forget the issue when we discover a group. But we don't find out the causes behind this.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/europe/manchester-terror-attack-uk/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/europe/manchester-terror-attack-uk/index.html)

Attacking a concert filled mostly with women and children, the event had no political statement or government backing, will the "good" that could come out of this horrific event be the final act that brings the world together to fight and defeat this band of terrorists?

Muslims should be the first to acknowledge these Muslim extremists because clearly the severe bulk of Muslim worshipers do not condone such awful actions and extreme beliefs. These animals have hijacked Islam as a reason for their terror.

This could bring the world together, DAESH could easily be defeated if the world came together to stop them. They should be ostracized from all communities. And since they've been calling for war, we should now give it to them.

Islam is religion of terror and death. God wants nothing to do with them, we should stop calling them a religion of peace.

Islam regulates every small detail of life for those trapped in it's web, and when this happens from birth those unfortunates will do what they are told, including things like suicide bombings.

But the clerics and leaders of Muslims have variegated beliefs. They are not a uniform whole. Unfortunately, this dispersed leadership combined with the control function means that at any time, there will be some groups of Muslims trying to harm "The West."

This is the essential flawed nature of Islam that causes this crisis.

I don't know who calls Islam a religion of peace. Probably think only Muslims. But Christianity also has radical supporters, and Orthodox Jews are better? I watched in Orthodox district of Jerusalem the Jews threw stones at a woman journalist who was dressed not as accepted them. Any religion is a restriction of freedom and democracy.

This is exactly what ISIS is aiming to do. They want every Muslim in every Western country to be hated and feared. And as we all know by far the largest number of victims of ISIS violence are other Muslims.

I read that military is patrolling the streets in UK and they have national alert. A bit too late for that.
What these terrorists are doing is acting like children, poking an ants nest with a stick. They kill a couple ants and the rest starts running around and patrolling, ready to bite, but nothing happens. A few days later the children will come back and the situation will repeat.
Nobody wins here, they'll keep constructing bombs and once a few months one will kill some random people, the media will have something to report, people will have something to fear, ISIS will have something to brag about and nothing will happen. Ultimately, the West will continue to drop bombs and shoot radicals, and the radicals will keep suiciding in the name of Allah, because they are dumb motherfuckers ;D

You sound like a mother fucker who thinks Islam is a cult, your opinion is not the actual fact, Islam is the last true religion but you self righteous ass have no gray brain cells to understand any thing, don't mix Arab mercenaries killing for pussy and money with real Muslims.
ISIS is not a representative of Islam and Muslims but I guess they wanted dickheads like you to blame their actions on Islam and have a bad image of Islam in the back of your empty head, I'd say it worked well.

When Us with the help of British invaded Iraq raping and gang banging every woman and girl and even recording it, what happens then?

They found those soldiers and decapitated them on camera and that was the first signs of ISIS, did the old cunt stop them from invading Iraq or just sat on her throne and watched?
Now it's payback time bitch.
I know it hurts but when you give with one hand you'll receive from another.

22 killed on the 22nd by a 22 year old...  :-X

The other religions at least make an effort to modernize. But Islam clings on to the 8th century practices. I am not saying that religions such as Christianity are above criticism. Obviously they have their own problems such as the bishops sodomizing the choir boys.

There is nothing wrong with the Quran. What is wrong is that they are wrong in interpreting the verses of the Quran. The Quran does not advocate Islam for bombing, Jihad is not a recommendation for bombings, slaughter and others, Jihad is when Muslims fight to defend religion "when Islam is harassed". All that terrorists do is out of the path of Islamic teachings. They attacked, bombed and shouted the name of Islam as if they were fighting a jihad, which they did very contrary. Please not to judge that the Quran is wrong and to judge that all Muslims are terrorists. Even people who really Islam also hate terrorists, they want terrorists to disappear in the world. Because the terrorists do not defend Islam, but worsen the name of Islam in the eyes of the world.

Ahahahah
You all make me really laugh!!!

You're all so outraged like "this is unnacceptable! They're barbarians!"

Yeah sure.
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2017/4/15/uk-bombs-syria-iraq-nearly-every-day-in-2017
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39598979

UK drops about 250 bombs and missiles on cities and civilians they're heroes
Islamic State soldiers go and kill 22 guys in a concert they're monsters.


Don't you see there is a SLIGHT problem here?
It's exactly like Germans who accused French resistants to be terrorists xD

You have a leader who dropped bombs on his own people ASSAD ..A dictator bye bye..

 the civil war in 2011. Arab-Sunni (60 ... The sharpest split is between the ruling minority Alawite sect, a Muslim sect from which .... During the Syrian civil war, Alawites in Syria have been subject to a series of growing threats and attacks coming from Sunni Muslims, ..

22 guys in a concert >:(..Little children young kids mostly girls

22 guys i be angry but not as angry as i am because you targeted children..

But i have been saying for the last 4 years to my government
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING letting goat fuckers run all over our nation..

They are the sickest humans known to man they even kill there own kids DIRTY HORRIBLE CREATURE ..
And we are bombing them and you let them ROAM around our nation..

Oh i have been saying this for sometime..
I even said we shouldn't be even in there just let them battle it out because they are killing each other
anyways so win win ..You all kill each other means less islamic crazies ;)..

BUT no greedy bastard politicians SO DON'T YOU BLAME THE PUBLIC..For
TONY BASTARD BLAIR..Go and attack him AND WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY IF YOU GET HIM ;D..
Not some child who knows nothing about WAR..

You went below the belt ..AND TRUST ME YOU WILL PAY..

For everyone of us who die we will kill thousands of you..

AND FUCK YOU RUSSIA if you try to stop us..WE ALL DIE.. ;) You are not getting away with it.. >:( >:(.

To attack children in a concert you don't get any lower ..
So that means will will crush you for it..

SO PUTIN if you like your billions which you stole from your people..
then keep the fuck out of this ..

We are going to crush you for this..You don't get any lower..

Lets just say if i was in power i would nuke you right now..
I wouldn't give a shit if we all die..WHY because if humans stoop so low we all deserve to DIE..

Oh man the angry little dog  :D

And what do you want to do? Kill all Muslims?
So... You're going to do EXACTLY what Tony Blair wanted you to do well done little dog.

Blaming them is stupid. YOU were the one to attack first!
Oh they killed 22 English children? Sad for the children indeed. But you had it coming. You killed THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN!

So now that they fight back you're angry?
Angry little dog xD

Think a bit. Stop being a stupid sheep.

You attacked first. You're the evil guys here. You're not victims.
The children are victims of course. Victims of your greed and your stupidity.

But don't mind me. I'm no better. I'm a greedy French asshole who did more or less exactly the same thing as you.
The only difference is that I'm aware of that. That when there is a terrorist attack in France I don't go yelling and crying at the "barbarians" because I know we deserve it and even worse.

You sound like a mother fucker ..Not as bad as you dirty goat fuckers..

Pakistan student killed over 'blasphemy' on university campus - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in pakistan youtube▶ 0:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc-ww4AU2fk

Pakistan mob kills woman and girls, over "blasphemous ... - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in pakistan youtube▶ 1:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT7D830ev1Y


EXECUTION - Islam murders a young mother! - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in saudi youtube▶ 2:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_cqtdH26c
1 Dec 2010 - Uploaded by Robert J. Williamson
Asia Bibi awaits execution in Pakistan for blasphemy under Islamic Sharia law. Blasphemy laws are often ...

Woman convicted of WITCHCRAFT is beheaded under ... - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in saudi youtube▶ 2:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IEH0BLuDbI
4 Jan 2013 - Uploaded by 00ismaeL001
On Oct 30 2011 a Sudanese man was beheaded by the Saudi ... One Australian man is under arrest for ..

14-year-old boy publicly executed by Islamists for 'blasphemy' - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in saudi youtube▶ 3:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uaDn0ITfng
11 Jun 2013 - Uploaded by Truthloader
14-year-old boy publicly executed by Islamists for 'blasphemy' in Syria - ... EDL capitalise on the Woolwich ...

YouTube Three women confess to killing man over blasphemy in ...
Video for blasphemy killings in saudi youtube▶ 9:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz71YPJkb34
22 Apr 2017 - Uploaded by Lynda Stephens
Three women confess to killing man over blasphemy in pakistan three women ... Trumplomacy: what does us


ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE :D :D :D^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^..

Some more of your religion of peace..

Turkey Muslim: Kill the victim (honor killing) - YouTube
Video for islamic honour killings▶ 4:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8XDXkaHtBg
7 Feb 2012 - Uploaded by BarclayAvenue1000

Honor Killing - Muslim Girl Murdered - YouTube
Video for islamic honour killings▶ 2:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuVwgconEMI
28 Nov 2007 - Uploaded by oppozed1
Banaz Mahmod was raped, tortured and murdered after falling in love with a man her family did not want her   < KILL HIS OWN SPOUSE  >:( < ISLAMIC CRAZIES ..

Honor Killing - Iraqi Girl Stoned - YouTube
Video for islamic honour killings▶ 2:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_ZWTx-QUj4
14 Dec 2007 - Uploaded by oppozed1
Honor Killing - Iraqi Girl Stoned ... Islamic Honour Killing: The Sad Death of a 17-Year Old - Real Crime

Honor Killings! The Legal Murder of Daughters and Women in Islam ...
Video for islamic african honour killings youtube▶ 12:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJt_S73ZMcU
3 days ago - Uploaded by Journey into Justice and Truth!
Honor Killings! The Legal Murder of Daughters and Women in Islam ...


Now one could argue and say well it only happens in such and such a country BUT in almost every muslim country you kill your own for FAIRY TALES ..Crazy or WHAT?..

So how dare you call ISLAM the religion of peace ..
So fuck you goat fucker :D..

Do you understand what IS are trying to achieve?  I don't think you do.  Its not a question of being brave or not.

Islamic State, by their own admission, believe in a future colossal war between their flavor of Islam and the rest of the world. In order to do this, they need to convince enough people that they are acting in the name of Islam and that it is Islam that is the problem rather than terrorist organisations.

Now, Islamic State and Al Qaeda COMBINED number no more than 300,000 people by their own claims.  The real figure, at least the one estimated by the CIA, is closer to 50,000 people.

So, there are 50,000 sick and fucked up terrorists out there who are trying to turn the west against billions of peaceful moderate Muslims and they are doing this by choosing targets that will cause the most outrage.  Clearly a childrens concert is part of this agenda.

These terrorists are fucked up.  They believe that slaughtering innocents furthers their cause.  However, people are giving them what they want...hatred of Muslims rather than hatred of the monsters themselves.

I'm 35 years old, I see no resolution to this horrendous situation and I fully expect to see a global war and genocide as a result of these terrorist attacks and the totally flawed belief that they happen in the name of Islam.

All of the people who are saying BOMB MUSLIMS and campaigning against Islam itself are falling right into the trap that Islamic fundamentalist terrorists are setting. Your hatred will feed theirs. The only way out of this is to target those responsible for these acts and to embrace those that aren't.

And before anybody accuses me of being a lover of Islam, that is not the case.  I tend to believe that religion of any kind is increasingly irrelevant and dangerous in the 21st Century. People seem to forget that Islamic State are turning on moderate Muslims more than the west at the moment. They are trying to use terror to swell their own ranks.

No we never ..

Do you see Syrians doing this?..  Saudi prince throws Money On stripper - YouTube
Video for saudi prince throwing money▶ 3:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_rOxBM-FrE
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Saudi's Rich Man vs New york Police - Duration: 2:47. Drifterzz 2,935,143 views · 2:47 · Oil sheikh throws ..
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                                                         SO WHO STARTED IT?

It's you who needs to use your brains .
One in three Saudi air raids on Yemen hit civilian sites, data shows ...
https://www.theguardian.com › World › Saudi Arabia
16 Sep 2016 - How Saudi Arabia's airstrikes have hit civilian life in Yemen. Read more. Saudi Arabia ....

Yemen Syria Iraq all oil producers <COUGH lets stop them and we can make all the money..

Lets just get one thing straight if we never bought any of your oil THE WHOLE DESERT WOULD DIE.
What else have you got..SAND?..Do you want to buy some sand..

So the point comes to which one of your sand land countries can sell to us cheap or at the right price..
So what happens now all your middle east countries have battle with each other over who will sell oil to the west..

Now imagine if we said we are not buying no oil from the middle east anymore no country can buy your oil ..then believe me most muslims would die off ..

You have no water
you have no money
Your desert lands would dry up..

It's the fact you can sell oil YOU LIVE ;)..

If we invent free energy you are FUCKED..
So then it comes done to do we let them live with us..WELL NO NOT IF YOU WANT TO KILL CHILDREN..

Atheist Arabs and Atheist pakistani live in my country if they wish NO BOTHER..
Islams bat shit crazy..

So you sort your oil wars out and which is the right manual to follow I.E your fairy tale KORAN..

It doesn't matter who started it.  Its up to the overwhelming majority of decent human beings on this earth to end it.

ARE YOU STUPID?..MONEY MONEY MONEY..KILLS MY CHILDREN >:( >:( >:(..

With your stupid ideas how life is..Please don't tell me what goes on thanks..

Everybody could benefit by listening to opposing opinions.

You mention Churchill.  Did you know that he was an admirer of Islam to the point that the British Government and his family were concerned that he might convert?

And yes, you are right.  Oppression and greed has fanned the flames of this problem.  From the very moment that wars were fought over natural resources in the middle east.  This stretches back over one thousand years.  Not just to the first Gulf War.

it is really mournful and sad news for us, people are getting day by day confined in the four wall. they are losing the guaranty to live while they stay on the outside, no place is safe to hang out, even you can not visit any market area with safety, you can not get on the train without worry. everywhere is becoming dangerous day by day. 

To the UK do you remember when we were in school and you had an idiot teacher who most children would take the piss out off him..
Well that's how i feel with these ISLAMIC CRAZIES..
I feel like an IDIOT ..So how long do we have to put up with these unruly crazies..

Any chance we can expel them from the class please   they are interrupting the whole class..
Yes real CLASS not shitty islamic class because they have non..

One day the government will recognized them as failed policies. It is very unfortunate that terrorist attacks are getting to be common these days. We are looking into the future where attacks can become less shocking because of its occurrence.

The attacks and the fear are real however you might be surprised to learn that this is literally the safest time to live in Europe in terms of terrorism threat since the late 1970s.  Admittedly, the largest drop in threat was due to the end of hostilities in Ireland which heavily skews the figures.

Here are the figures for since 2006:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Terrorist_Attacks_in_the_EU_by_Affiliation.png

this is sad. and mot only in manchester as there are also several isis atta ks in other parts of the world like in syria and the philippines. it seems these terrorists are getting bolder and bolder as time goes in and the sad part is that its affecting innocent people that are living thier normal daily lives.

Several? a rough estimate is that 1,200 people have been killed by Islamic State outside of Syria and Iraq and a whopping 150,000 within Syria and Iraq.

Its a fucking blood bath.

Churchill Quotes..

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedanism law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property–either as a child, a wife, or a concubine — must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

You think i have never known muslims before  :D.

if you had 50k to pay to kill someone how many could you get to do it?..

Well i seen someone sell there own son for 400k to blow himself up.. :o

Now if you pay that much how much do you get back or to get what if you pay that much?..

You see we have drug wars so i could say well we should kill you for selling and producing SMACK..
But no it's our own fault for being stupid..

Like we sell bombs to kill you ..Not very nice i know..
But you sell us drugs which destroys our cities like SMACK ..

ALL FOR MONEY..
So if you STUPID ISLAMIC FUCKS WOULD WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES ..Then we could all live in peace..

ISLAM IS NOT THE RELIGION OF PEACE..It's the religion of slaves and to be slaves..

Thanks for the relevant quote. I'm sure that when you read The River War you would have considered the context.

Churchill wrote that in 1894 while he was 20 years old, it was published in 1899 and by that stage he had no personal experience of the Islamic world.

Over the next 30 years he lived and worked in Islamic countries and cha he's his beliefs based on a wider understanding of the world and religion.

By 1930, he was an admirer of Islam but an outspoken critic of Islamic Fundamentalism which he saw as destructive and perverse.

You do know there is a nice type of Muslims you know..
But the ones with the MONEY ARE TAKING OVER  ..You doughnut  :D I.E the bad ones..

And who is killing the nice Muslims?..

You must understand if you went to buy a car ?..

You want a certain type of car you go in one show room he wants 10k you walk in another show room
he wants 8k both the same cars off the production line ..WHO IS YOUR FRIEND..?
             ^
Now how do i know what he does when he goes home?..

Now about Churchill how do you know he never got money later in life from the oil makers ..?

Like this made me CHUCKLE ..Watch and you see what i mean..

Obama Is Afraid to Call Shooting An Act of Islamic Terrorism - YouTube
Video for trump saying obama wont call them islamic terrorist youtube▶ 1:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yaXu1NX1KU



Now trump gets this below and his daughter get 100 million

Donald Trump signs $110bn arms deal hours after landing in Saudi ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics
4 days ago - The US and Saudi Arabia have reached a $110bn-plus arms deal, significantly expanding the longstanding security relationship between the two countries, the White House has said. ... Donald Trump awarded with Saudi Arabia's highest civilian honour. ...

AND NOW   AFTER   THE    MONEY :D..

Donald Trump calls terrorists 'Evil Losers' after Manchester ... - YouTube
Video for trump call islams losers youtube▶ 2:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGE9vGyyrU4


WHAT HAPPENED TO ISLAMIC NUTTERS?...Well i got 80 odd billion :D :D :D :D
And are Invanka got 100 million   so yes the are looser's  :D :D :D :D :D..


ALL ABOUT THE MONEY HONEY.. ;)

Bush says "money trumps peace" - YouTube
Video for Bush saying money trumps peace▶ 1:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utRKKOUHA4A
14 Feb 2007 - Uploaded by Marydad

WAKE UP..

You islams kill each other to sell cheap oil and we don't care as long as we get cheap oil..

UNDERSTAND..

Like a car ...2 sales rooms      who do you care what they do to each other if you get 2k off your car..

That's life  TOTAL CAPITALISM ..Greed liars cheaters TOTAL CAPITALISM ..

But no you have DUMB ASS humans who think fairy tales are true ..
When  it's the money that's the TRUTH..

Let Trump to do a few more sword dance, support Saudi more and sell them weapons and fighter jets,then come here talk about oil and sands.

Talk about if you invented free energy and such like the God which I worship didn't create you as well, who do you think is giving you the knowledge and the wisdom?

22 children died?

Tell me if you don't already know every second  thousands of people die worldwide, dying is inevitable, but these terrorists are taking advantage by killing specific and well targeted people in specific location.

I as a Muslim am really sorry for their parents and families, but Islam teaches us to respond violence with goodness.

What your religion teaches you?

To insult and offend every single Muslim?

This is the trouble with fairy tales ..I can insult fairy tales if i so wish ;)..

If i write a book and you read it have you the right to call it what you will ..

And what if this stupid book i wrote i worshipped every word it said
Do i have the right to kill you over offending my book?..

Says in one part of my book anyone covering there faces should be stoned to death..
should you be allowed to call that book and me crazy for following a book with words..?


 but Islam teaches us to respond violence with goodness.

WHAT A BIT LIKE THIS?..Oh no what have i done to my spouse ..Violence with goodness ;)..

I once watch a young girl say my father tried to kill me cut her to bits sliced all over her body
And he come to visit me in hospital though nothing had happened < violence with goodness


Pakistan honour killing: warning - shocking content - YouTube
Video for honor killing youtube▶ 8:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgbCQMw5LOM
22 Feb 2013 - Uploaded by Channel 4 News
Warning: this video contains shocking content Foreign Affairs Correspondent Jonathan Rugman talks to a man ...

Honor Killing - Iraqi Girl Stoned - YouTube
Video for honor killing youtube▶ 2:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_ZWTx-QUj4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_W-XhdISs
9 Apr 2016 - Uploaded by Real Stories
Brutally murdered by her family in 2006, 'Banaz: An Honour Killings' tells the story of her, Banaz' sister ...

Five Pakistani Women Buried Alive in Group Honor Killing - YouTube
Video for honor killing youtube▶ 3:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ttwyNZEu4
9 Sep 2008 - Uploaded by ExposingPorkistan
According to human rights groups and local reports, the five women were driven away to a desert area by men ...


Pakistani woman killed in so-called 'honor killing... - YouTube
Video for honor killing youtube▶ 2:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69zjJuJTQ9w
17 Jun 2016 - Uploaded by CNN


And yes your religion is crazy and should be wiped out..
All religion would be nice..

BUT YOUR RELIGION THE MOST..<CRAZY SHIT..

I bet you have nothing to say to my EARTH SISTER?..Lets see if you can answer her back..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVQETclhps

                             ^^
NOT 1 MUSLIM SAYS ANYTHING TO MY EARTH SISTER..    I WONDER WHY?..

Is she a LIAR?

Police should investigate the issue critically, I am suspecting that it could be terrorist sttsck

 :D Cat got your Muslim tongues..

Not saying MUCH NOW..    

Excellent: Ex-muslim Woman Speaks the Truth About Islam - YouTube
Video for ex muslim woman▶ 8:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVQETclhps

Funny a westerner says the same oh we are the baddest people.
An Arab says the same NO ANSWER :D :D :D..

She is the best ;)..Having trouble with a muslim    In court show them her and say she told me ;)..

You are STUMPED  :D :D..

Now islamic nutters learn science and you will forget all about fairy tales and will want PROOF.. ;D

Less likely to kill over fairy tales ..<Well you will need proof..

God said do it ..Well we Islamic's are into science now where is your proof well i have non
well i am not doing it ;)..SCIENCE..

And share it and we can all live in peace..
If i invent a flying car i want you to enjoy it too..

Not if your killing children over fairy tales       i don't want you to be enjoying anything..


Also to our government when i say NUKE those little ones that go boom..
And when they walk in that part of the desert they get an extra TIT..

Well they deserve one for being TITS..

It was recently, the police should take his time to investigate if were a real terrorist attack after do statesment, poor Ariana Grande.

Popcorn1 still completly mad about Muslims, you're really the reason our world is so shitty man ;D


Anyway I like your analyze Stonehedge.
But I'd say you're not taking sufficiently into account the impact of West here.
You're putting ISIS and Al Qaeida like independant enterprises in fact ^^

I'd say we had a nearly complete responsability in their creation but still in their development. Simply because it helps big companies and governments to have this.

People like Popcorn1 are too stupid to see reality and go all against Muslims. While the real ennemies are the ones in the banks and sharholders of the companies.

I am the solution ;)..

Wipe islam out no more islam crazies..

Well how i do that?..Free energy you have nothing to sell..BYE BYE MUSLIM CRAZIES..

Do you want to buy some sand   NO FUCK OFF ;D..

Also if you look i am just replying to people who questioned what i said..THE TRUTH HURTS..

RIP to the victims and condolences to the bereaved.

Unfortunately, this will not be the last one. Wasn't the last attack was when that drivers ran over people near Parliament and killed a police? You probably already know the drill - say it's got nothing to do with Islam, hold a vigil and maybe an interfaith event, change profile pictures on social media, wait for the next attack...

Around the same date some Islamist group attacked a city here in the Philippines, occupying a hospital and burning down a campus building. A third of the country is now under martial law.

I forget to mention i mean you can keep your religion in your own lands but don't bring it to the UK
We are mostly non believers..

We think people who believe in fairy tales are STUPID..
HAPPY CLAPPERS we called them in work..

Oh shut up happy clapper and get that work done..

No time for bullshit anymore the world is spinning to fast and we need money..

Well every other week a new toy or product comes out what we all want..
Spinning so fast we need to buy buy buy..

So you and you goat fuckers and your pedo vicars and your dick cutter suckers can all FUCK OFF..

You gang of crazy people..Lets get real we need money to feed everyone and give us all a starting point to live..

UNIVERSAL INCOME..I told you if it wont happen this planet will die..

And you greedy people will all die too ..
I know id want to live with all that money..

Well spread it about ..UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL..

I mean what was trump doing talking to a FUCKING WALL :D :D..MAD BASTARD ..

Hello wall what are you up to today ..WELL i will be standing here all day ;D..

So PISS OFF YOU CRAZY Islamic crazies and take your shitty religion back to the desert where it belongs..

Fact all Most of our religions come from the DESERT anyways..
So take it all back..

Any chance you can take the PEDO VICARS with you..What that's our problem..OK  :'(
But they did believe in the desert religion the pedo vicars..

3 main religion take them back to the desert where they belong..

I will invent i knew RELIGION IF I HAVE TOO..

All about the earth and how that created us and through science how we will live forever ..
No you wont but humanity will.. ;)..

We could all sing and dance on a Monday..< hate Mondays might perk us all up..

And we could sing
WE LOVE THE EARTH and THE EARTH LOVES US  :D :D..

Recycle our stuff so the world don't get ruff  ..
The whales and the fishes don't want to eat plastic .

recycle our stuff so the word don't get ruff ..

I not finished the song yet BUT i will get there ..

Now what hats should we wear special ones ..I know baseball caps with ...LOVE THE EARTH..

I wonder if we will get     oh look the earth people hate them :D :D
Especially that popcorn singing :D. And his shitty songs..

If you want to join 1 BTC :D

Joke my earth temple is free ..How do i get the money  :-\ :-\ :-\..

Maybe the earth god come down give us some ::)..

Anyways NO MORE KILLING CHILDREN..

You will loose so bad ..

If you had any sense you would see i am trying to save you ARABS from killing each other over your stupid religion..

If i was evil  I would say nothing and let you all kill each other knowing what's happening is all about controlling your peoples to keep the oil money..

And we have bad politicians who will lick your bum holes for money..<Like most humans do..

But to blame the public over your shitty desert countries is pathetic ..

Blame the real people you PUSSIES ..

Look you muslims conquered a lot of the world YOU NEVER CONQUERED the UK

Our knight templar priests went over and kicked your asses ..
And took back control..You was getting out of hand you see..

Don't make the mistake again..

who buys who's weapons?..

You don't think we sell you are best shit do you ;)..IF you only knew..

I like this quote it brings smile to my face as it is so typical of the attitude represented by the leftists in France, Germany, Sweden and some other EU countries. It's this attitude of submissive sufferers, that is slowly destroying Europe.
"We are responsible for all these wars, we want to change it, repent, help people! Let's show them Christian love, gather money to send to poor regions of Africa and the Middle East, bring migrants to our homes, pay them money to raise families and feel loved, we can all leave in peace"
At the same time these is the view of your beloved refugees:
"These idiots are inviting us, let's take their money, set up comfortably and take over. We'll have their women, their land, and make them our slaves"

Do you back up all of your opinions with youtube videos or do you have some facts to back up your opinions?

About what me singing?..

A youtube video you can see it come from the horses mouth .

I could say blah blah blah blah and with no proof..

Now i just say BLAH and do this ..

Mob Murders Pakistani Student Over 'Blasphemy' - YouTube
Video for blasphemy killings in pakistan youtube▶ 0:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_31PBqwIVPE


OH actual proof a youtube video ..
Do you believe BLAH or blah blah blah blah and no video to back what i say is real..?

VIDEO EVIDENCE ..Goes a long way..Although on some a man can fly ;)..
But very easy to tell what's real and what's a lie..

Bible or koran never distorted my brains you see..

This might help you ..You said you wanted facts..

Middle Ages for Kids: Crusades - Ducksters

www.ducksters.com › History › Islamic Empire
The Crusades were between the armies of the Europe, mostly the Holy Roman Empire, and the Arabs that had control of Jerusalem. In the first Crusade this was the Seljuk Turks. There were around 30,000 soldiers from Europe in the first Crusade, they were made up of Knights, peasants, and other commoners.

they were made up of Knights, peasants, and other commoners.

See us poor sorting it all out while the rich run ;)..Always the way..And they start it all..

JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick - YouTube
Video for everything a rich mans trick▶ 3:27:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
19 Nov 2014 - Uploaded by Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick
The who, how & why of the JFK assassination. Taken from an historical perspective starting around world war


Oh more youtube evidence ..

Which also happens in madrassahs though not as widely reported.

The main difference between Islam and Christianity is the level of secularization of countries following them. Christian churches have no temporal powers in the West, it's not like a priest can have you dragged to jail for blasphemy for disputing canon. That won't happen even in the Vatican. Secularization is what people believe "defanged" religion in those nations.

I know exactly what you want dude, you want to be free to fuck, you want to be free to eat and drink whatever you like, you want to do whatever you see fit and desire.
You don't want to humble yourself for your maker, you are arrogant and an idiot as a whole.
You lack the ability to understand.
Like you can't understand real Muslims are the ideal human beings, if you're not the ideal human being then you are not a Muslim no matter how much you'd like to be and call yourself and pretend and others think you are.
There is no such a thing as "honor killing".
Whatever you do only you'll be held responsible and no body else will answer instead of you.
When the time comes and you are dragged on molten lava in front of the entire world and tossed in to the fire of hell, I'll make sure to let you see my smile.
This is like when I tell people Bitcoin will rise and rise and keeps rising as time passes but only a few really believe it and act upon it accordingly and the rest are just bystanders, doubters-non-believers, the difference is very big between a person holding 200 Bitcoins when price reaches $50,000 and a person holding a few satoshis, difference is literally a fortune.

You are free to say and do what ever you want but don't come here bitching about how they'd stoned/raped/killed or whatever and crying why why.
Yeah I'm a Muslim but I'm a human like every body else but when I read a book I wont walk around spreading false information and misleading others.

I am certain the God who made us all can defend himself and knows how to deal with his creatures, so no need to kill some body because of blasphemy, not in my book, I'd let my maker to deal with such people but if some body took the matter in to their hands and did something wrong, he'll be judged like all at the end.

But some people like your self since don't believe in so called fairy tales you want to take the matter into your hands as well, so you stupid ass tell me the difference between yourself and crazies you call them extremists? sounds like religious or non-believers we all still are the same thing, humans.

There is no such a thing as "honor killing"..
An honor killing or shame killing is the homicide of a member of a family, due to the perpetrators' belief that the victim has brought shame or dishonor upon the family ..

Exposure: Banaz An Honour Killing (Documentary) - Real Stories ...
Video for honor killing documentary▶ 47:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_W-XhdISs       < i MUST BE SEEING SOMETHING ELSE


When the time comes and you are dragged on molten lava in front of the entire world and tossed in to the fire of hell, I'll make sure to let you see my smile.< YOU WISH ;)..

No such thing as hell fire  :D..All made up stories to entertain the DUMB ASSES ..


This is like when I tell people Bitcoin will rise and rise and keeps rising as time passes but only a few really believe it and act upon it accordingly and the rest are just bystanders, doubters-non-believers, the difference is very big between a person holding 200 Bitcoins when price reaches $50,000 and a person holding a few satoshis, difference is literally a fortune.

^  :D :D :D^^^^  200 at 50k :D :D :D. Try cash out ;)..

Like you can't understand real Muslims are the ideal human beings..<I would disagree .

But anyways enjoy your 20 million pounds
you can give us a 20 dollar loan ..Well you got 20 million what's 20 dollars..

WHAT A DREAMER ..< Bit like the way you believe your religion.

If i want a btc i trade EASY ..
Make a btc easy..

Buy into a crypto and trade it till it's dead..
Then move onto another  until i got a btc..

But you must remember what if the government bans it?..

I don't sit on BTC i do what btc needs me to do USE IT ;)..Gamble it..

Everyone sat on it no one would make a business out of it..
So you thank me for using it        YOU GREEDY PERSON ..Oh i want to make as much as i can MERR..

Oh it's oh I PARDON YOU.. ;)

I'll make sure to let you see my smile..You could do with smiling you Muslims always unhappy..

Must be the KORAN making you angry..
No i am angry because you killed children ..

And i would love to see you on a battlefield ..MAYBE SOON HAY ;)..

   Helfire    Horse bet :D :D..You can see the future ;)
Charlie Bennett/ Morrison, H
(41)   Form: 1448-5 Age: 4 Weight: 9-6 
8:40 Kempton
7f - Best Odds Guaranteed
I AM ON IT :D :D :D :D :D

Let's just cut your post off right there shall we?

Because I can assure you that (real or unreal) Muslims are not "the ideal human beings," that's just your arrogance and conceit, or that of your religion.

Problem is, once you have a bunch of misfit assholes thinking they are "The Perfect Human Beings," then a rogue evil cleric tells them God has commanded them to go blow people up, and they go do it, don't they?

That's the problem with Islam. It creates the perfect environment for abuse and misuse to the detriment of humanity. We've got misfit asshole Christians thinking they are the "ideal and perfect human beings," also, they just don't go around blowing themselves up.

OMG IT WON.. :D :D :D

8:40 Kempton  check the results WOW you can see the future..Nice one for the tip ;) :D :D :D

Helfire  i was on the helfire  and i won..

Charlie Bennett/ Morrison, H
(41)   Form: 1448-5 Age: 4 Weight: 9-6

See islams i go on the helfire and i still win..

I wonder if there is a horse called    getting your head cut off :D :D :D..

Offended? I'm not offended in any way, why should I be?

It merely offends my intelligence but nothing more.
It's just that I find it funny that you really don't understand what's going on ;D

You're all mad all "DAMN WE NEED TO KILL THOSE MUSLIMS" and I find that very funny ^^


Hmm... Seems you're not quite understanding what I'm saying.
There is no submission in my words, only understanding of my own actions.
Wanna continue to wage war in Middle East to take ressources and kill muslims by hundreds of thousands? Fair enough why not.

What I CAN'T STAND THOUGH is the stupidity of people like popcorn1 (and maybe you?)
If we ATTACK THEM it is normal that they ATTACK US BACK.
It doesn't mean that the only solution is to open all borders and give them free money. Killing them all is also a solution.

BUT DON'T PRETEND YOU'RE A VICTIM.
You're an attacker. But it's in human nature to go and kill the neighbour to steal his belongings.

Just don't act like you're an innocent. You're a guilty asshole, and so am I. Does it mean we have to stop and suck their dicks? Not necessarily.

Ok man, not meaning to offend you here but can you give me your opinion as a Muslim. If Islam is such a normal religion and not at fault for the terrorist attacks, why is it then that mostly Muslims nowadays conduct these attacks. In fact maybe almost all of the religious terrorism in the world is done by Islam fundamentalists. Why does no other religion do this, but Islam does?

Any religion will condemn this attack, there is no religion that allows killing each other for no reason. Let alone attack the children. :'(

The problem is that Islam does not consider people of other faith people. Probably it is the only religion on earth that justifies murder. If you compare Muslims and Europeans are one and the same what to compare a human with a monkey. It was stupid to let them into Europe.

Now why is Britain so mad at American Press at publishing the name of the suspect and even the pictures of the rucksack of the bomber and the trigger that set off that bomb when it already happened and was already released on twitter?
Does not make sense. This is the public press. Something about Whitehall not trusting the United States now. ::)

Misattribution, I hate that. Let me point out the fallacies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_composition

The fallacy of composition arises when one infers that something is true of the whole from the fact that it is true of some part of the whole (or even of every proper part). For example: "This wheel is made of rubber, therefore the vehicle to which it is a part is also made of rubber." This is clearly fallacious, because vehicles are often made with a variety of parts, many of which may not be made of rubber.

This fallacy is often confused with the fallacy of hasty generalization, in which an unwarranted inference is made from a statement about a sample to a statement about the population from which it is drawn.

Which leads into the second fallacy, they truly roll deep, so to speak.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Hasty generalization is an informal fallacy of faulty generalization by reaching an inductive generalization based on insufficient evidence—essentially making a rushed conclusion without considering all of the variables. In statistics, it may involve basing broad conclusions regarding the statistics of a survey from a small sample group that fails to sufficiently represent an entire population.[1] Its opposite fallacy is called slothful induction, or denying a reasonable conclusion of an inductive argument (e.g. "it was just a coincidence").

Yes, followers of Islam that are actual terrorists are violent, brutal, murderous assholes. But like assuming a whole house is made of plastic because you touched the doorbell first, attributing the actions of an extreme minority to a majority because they share affiliation, doesn't always make sense.

It is important to note that the primary victims of terror, specifically of the brand seen in Manchester, are Muslims themselves. For every Manchester that occurs in the West, ten tragedies occur of a greater magnitude in ISIS occupied territories. Mosques get blown the fuck up with an alarming frequency; you might catch a bum deal simply walking to market, or being in a common public place. I say that to say this; it seems they manage to kill more of their own than they do us. An enemy that kills itself, the snake that bites its own tail; perhaps we do not percieve the end of the snake and the start of the tail. They are one of a whole but yet, wholly separate parts.

To counter, it would be slothful to ignore the correlation between incident of violent, contemporary religious extremism and those who claim to be Muslim. It certainly exists. 100 percent of ISIS claims to practice Islam, the most pure form, by their reckoning. But the fallacies of slothful induction and hasty generalization both rely on limited perspective. Consider how long Islam has been around, and consider how the violence of this particular nature only clusters around now and lately. If you want to mention the violent history of Islam, you would have to concede the equally violent histories of all the Abrahamic faiths, in context. This a modern social construct, terrorism; it may correlate with Islam at the moment, but it does not originate from Islam.

Good discussion peeps, please keep this rolling ;) The opinions are diverse and zesty, I almost want to make a bipartisan politics forum sans bitcoin. These conversations usually degrade into name calling quickly, although it hasn't been all above the belt, I'm proud of y'all for keeping it civil, for the most part. ;)

Actually, yes it does. It originates with the writings and teachings of Sayd Qutb in Egypt, the guy that formed the Muslim Brotherhood. It was first widely practiced in it's modern form by Yassir Arafat, over 400 acts of terrorism largely for media penetration. Bin Laden was the disciple of Qutb Arafat is considered an Islamic hero by many.

Modern Islamic terrorism is a modern Islamic terrorism social construct.

Shoot first ask question later. Citizens vs subjects.

Then on the subject i watched quickly hard talk on the bbc... the anchor was so anti chinese, it was crasy... again citizens vs subjects... same hate for russians.

The fundamental problems ls that the real unleashed market economies can wipe all of their wealth in seconds.

Then they can't speak against the religion of peace, demography has spoken... and it's their freedom of speech to be unhappy and manifest it:).

And i think there is a war between 2 conceptions of war, with one trying to privatize data in the hands of the intelligence community (exclusive approach). And the others inclusive, it's a common responsability whose individual efforts have been pulled togheter.

You will note that the only lne who apoligize is the bimbo... that tells a lot to me.

One of the only option i see, to defeat the domestic ennemy is to create a PAN EUROPEAN MUSLIM political party... to create a perception of realization of sharia law coming soon. As those leftists fuckers only care about their steaks, they will be forced to rethink. Otherwise it will not be a perception.

the day when nato took it's shahada is getting closer...

What I CAN'T STAND THOUGH is the stupidity of people like popcorn1 (and maybe you?)
If we ATTACK THEM it is normal that they ATTACK US BACK.
It doesn't mean that the only solution is to open all borders and give them free money. Killing them all is also a solution.

NO YOU ATTACKED OUR CHILDREN..In a concert.. >:( :'( >:( >:( >:( >:(

And believe me do it again and you will pay..
Already arranged  ;) ;)..

The word on the street is not good for you guys..
We the people are ready to take the law into our own hands..

Millions are ready .. ;)
It will be sad because even the good Muslims will be getting it too..

YOU ATTACKED US..Our children not the men ..
Well the men are coming to get you next time..

You want to see the ANGER where i come from..
We beg you government BOOT THEM OUT because we the people will have no choice but to deal with it ourselves..

And what can you do call the ARMY..
Where we come from many are in the ARMY ;)..

And to the Crazy Islams if your plan is to cause a war ..

Just listen to this..
If no ISLAMS left in the UK ..I.E you have all been booted out what are you going to do then?..

None of your kind will have a chance to move and set up a new life to make your lives better..
You be in the desert hot and bored and dying for a drink of water..


And i believe LABOUR as been getting funded by terrorist groups..
I will show you the proof soon If it's true ..It's the word on the street..

Labour have been taking donations from well known terrorist groups..

And just lets get one thing right..

YOU ARE IN OUR LANDS ..WE will get you out believe me..

You make sure you tell your peoples that our peoples are not having this no more..

You attacked us FIRST ..Don't you dare blame CHILDREN..

Mind you that's all you do is blame your spouse ..

How are we all together if you have many different belief systems that clash with each others way of life..BUT IT'S THE UK ..MY way or the HIGHWAY..

What is that you ask..

BE FREE TO BE WHO YOU WANT TO BE AS LONG AS YOU HURT NO ONE..

Now if your covering your women .WHY..So what must you think of women who don't cover up?..

You got your own women covered YOU DUMB SHITS so you must hate the women who are not..
Don't say you don't ..WHY COVER YOUR OWN THEN?..

Just think if you do something as extreme as covering your women then you must hate others not doing it..
So now WHAT ELSE DO YOU HATE?..

Now remember this   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndSORWLc3VU

More like salamander keep cutting it's tail what happens ?..
To many greedy people it knocks me SICK..
Government wont do anything because to much money getting paid..

It's funny because you all say i am religious and in your manuals it says the richest people in heaven
are the POOR..
Looks like you religious people are not so religious after all ..

And then say to an american bible crazy the word SHARE :o :o I.E socialism :..
No way i don't want my taxes to help the poor or build better roads and schools ..

BUT may god be with you.. :D

Just hope the government does something because the people will be doing it..

And to the USA thanks because our government could of covered it up.. ;)
They been covering all sorts up RAPE VICTIMS everything these dirty bastards have been doing to our own people..

And our peoples are ALL COLOUR PEOPLE ;D..They way it should be..
But not no backward ideas from a religion that we have no belief in ..
WE DON'T LIKE OUR OWN RELIGIONS MUCH..
So why would we like ISLAM ..?

And this is our land with our laws ..
But looks like our government wants SHARIA LAW..< Could be bought cookies

To our army just be careful we might of been took over by our government who as sold us out..

Muslim Agenda Exposed by Ex Labour MP - YouTube
Video for muslim labour mp speech▶ 2:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck1mWPFWv2E
2 Nov 2012 - Uploaded by watchthis840

So i will say for the last time DO IT AGAIN and this time we will have no choice but to take back our
land..

We ain't some toffee nose twats from London you know ;)..

Hmmm... First I haven't attacked anyone, I'm a good white agnostic dude, not a terrorist (from West or Middle East).
Then YOU ATTACKED THEIR CHILDREN FIRST
What do you think? That the bombs UK drops on Middle East cities are children avoiding?
You killed THOUSANDS of innocents children and made dozens of thousands of orphans!
And when 22 of your children get killed you're all "omg no it's horrible those bastards hos dare they"

Yeah lol, a lot more of your children will die, and if they don't deserve it because they have nothing to do with your greed, you deserve to get your children taken.
That would be a good solution. A good first step to stop this madness. Kill the governments and stop those stupid wars in Middle East. In 20 years we'll no longer see any terrorism.
But what are you going to do? Kick out all Muslims of UK? That's about 6% of your population, and where will you send them? Oo

Kuffars, gays and women will always be considered lower type of human being. That is if the are even allowed to live at all.

For example, for a woman to who was raped prove that she was indeed raped, she need to produce four MALE witnesses. Where are she to get those, hmmm?

Even small examples like this is enough to show that it is inherently misogynist, xenophobic and racist yet you are not allowed to criticize it lest some of those labels be applied to you. Sigh.  :(

where will you send them?.. coffins

To my government this what happens in PAKISTAN and this is what they DO..

Pakistan student killed over 'blasphemy' on university campus - YouTube
Video for blasphemy student killed in pakistan youtube▶ 0:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc-ww4AU2fk



AND THIS WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTRY..

Manchester Bombing: The Latest - YouTube
Video for manchester area bombing youtube▶ 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg-pe4jIg


AND WE DO THIS..

Calls for unity at Manchester vigil - YouTube
Video for manchester vigil youtube▶ 1:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tVukiaCH1k


SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING VIGIL FOR THIS..?

Katie Hopkins On LBC - Rotherham Muslim Grooming Gangs Are Tip ...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDzFyDyiS3w
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UK Rotherham: Muslim Asian Gangs Abuse 1400 Children (Short ...
Video for rotherham muslim grooming gangs▶ 2:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jSLgmA9jlA


YOU SEXUAL ABUSE OUR CHILDREN   AND BLOW THEM UP..You are PUSSIES..

6% will be feeling the pain ..

Listen you keep going on about we keep blowing up some shit holes in the desert

Then you could agree WHY WOULD YOU INVITE THE ENEMY IN?..
i DON'T LIKE My government bombing poor nations BUT if they are WHY INVITE THEM IN OUR NATION..

WHY WHY WHY ..What was the AGENDA..

Or we got to many of these people in POWER..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1f8UOWF4RY

You don't bomb a nation then invite the people to stay in your nation.. >:( >:(..

Is our leaders SO FUCKING STUPID..

I just wonder are the LONDON TWATS Playing hunger games?

LoL america wasn't revealed that the muslims were already raping and murdering, enslaving and looting accross the world... siege of vienna, fall of spain, fall of constantinople... you have been so dumbed down by your education... lol you are a sheep ready for slaughters.

Yes labour is a domestic organization... like all the rest. They want their steaks. It's the only thing they care.

Labour and us democrats have something in common. Of course their worldwide peace utopia.

Waste of time discuss such matters... at least we real sheeps, they understand what is meant by wolves... even when lead to the slaughter house by their shepards.

other example of violence commited by muslims : yazedis, india... it's a wordwide problem!!!

LoL america wasn't revealed that the muslims..<OBAMA YOU SEE
They told us who the bomber was before our own government did..

Dear popcorn1,

I am curious to know your reactions or comments about the interview of tommy robinson on infowars...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1932647.0

He seemed realistic about the fact that it will get worse and worse. And that english men have developed an high sense of tolerance toward abuses...

Direct link to the video : https://youtu.be/68XUjXRETbw

Yeah lol, a lot more of your children will die, and if they don't deserve it because they have nothing to do with your greed, you deserve to get your children taken.

Threats to our children ..
Do you hear this we are getting threats to our children..

Just a warning how we feel..

TONY BELLEW DOESN'T HOLD BACK AS HE GIVES HIS ... - YouTube
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TONY BELLEW DOESN'T HOLD BACK AS HE GIVES HIS VIEW ON THE MANCHESTER TRAGEDY (STRONG .

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2017%2F05%2F24%2Fworld%2F24Manchester1%2F24Manchester1-master675.jpg&sp=736f9fea1c42317d430fc495f3a34631

Anymore have been released?

Masha Sha    it's like this many have jobs and need to carry on with life so we keep getting booted up the butt holes for our family sake <NO GOOD IN JAIL children suffer no money..

BUT when we cannot take our children to a concert or a venue without the fear of our children getting blew up THAT MEANS our precious children are in danger what we live for..

Now our government want us to chill out and think it will all blow over and these ISLAM CRAZIES
will change..BUT THEY WONT..1400 years of muslim war over fairy tales..OH now OIL ;).

So i believe this will slide because we can say you stooped so low and we let you off.
But next time WAR on the STREETS and we out number them by many many fold..

And they think cutting a head off and we are scared ..Wait till you see what we do to you..
Oh yes we can be just as EVIL..

I just noticed that you only seem to link to youtube videos from a youtube only news channel in response to the debate I am attempting to have with you.

I was trying to understand your viewpoint better but all you seem to do is call 1.6Bn people goat fuckers and link to low value news sources.

You also seem to link to Katie Hopkins who is somebody who spends her life in court being forced to pay compensation for lying about people.
 

This day is a terror day.  In philippines there is maute group who terrorize the southern philippines.  In UK there is a blast in arianne grande concert.  Something is wrong in this world people nowadays get crazy.

And one more happened in Jakarta last night. There was a big explosion. Last I saw the news there was no casualties except the perpetrator who turned out this is a suicide bombing. I'm not too sure about the next news. The point is, the world is now insecure. Terror can happen anywhere and anytime, we must be very careful.

That's one hell of a bunch of goat fuckers.

First it was an attack on teens in the Ariana Grande concert in Manchester.

At the same time a city here in the Philippines was besieged and aside from taking over a hospital and burning down a campus building, it turns out they released prisoners from the city jail and a district jail and now we found out they also barged into a novena mass and abducted the parish priest, some acolytes and parishioners as they were doing the final preparations for a religious festival.

And now I'm reading in FB that there was a suicide bombing attack in Jakarta.

Oh of course, this has nothing to do with....

Have you seen how now they play the bad american cards? It's all about the leak of the pictures.

What does security worker in the uk MUST understand and learn is to work faster than the medias and /pol 4chaners.

There incomeptences and amateurism is total. They pretend... time for nsa to extract it all. They are not to be trusted.

I corrected this for you

But yeah we agree on this!
They should make a clear choice: kill all muslims and take their oil OR don't attack them. But this "we bomb the shit out of you and then we welcome you" isn't a solution.
You know why they do this?
So YOU focus on the 6% muslims you have. This way you don't question your government and what they do.

I think we can agree on something, we get rid of our assholes that govern us and then we see how we deal with middle east in a logical way:
either stop wars and let them all in peace or kill them all without exception. This middle method is useless.

man you really make me laugh xD

Again, you killed their children first. So why shouldn't they come to kill yours?
When you bomb an entire country and that your army spend months cautiously bombing cities, what do you expect?
You expect them to say "ah ok well bad luck, no hard feeling though"

The funniest thing is there is probably at the exact same time a Allah-popcorn1 saying more or less the same thing than you but against UK xD

And I find that reaaaaaaaaaaaally funny to see how angry you get while you only get what you deserve!

I just feel sad for the children, they never had any choice in this :/

We blew the middle east to bits, this is their way of saying you shouldn't have done that and I know someone who was there who had to crawl over the bodies to get out, but unless we deal with the corruption at the top then this kind of thing will continue on forever.

You don't read? full denial of history... what about Vienna? Spain? Constaninople? Raid by the tartars against russians? You don't understand the double trapping that those people are in? One side the instructions manual to conquer the world and on the other the insane demographic pressure.

You know guilt never really worked. It's the aspirational...

And you are frankly too stupid...  not that you don't know, but don't want. Why? Your steaks depend on it?


You are deploying your sock puppet army? How many do you have?

Hmm... Seems like I have to correct a mistake that both Masha and af-newbie made.

You seem to understand my words as "they're proud warriors only trying to fight the evil western nations"

This is NOT what I'm saying. This is what YOU understand. And I'm not responsible for you trying to put ideology in my words.

I'll be as clear as possible:

-The West attacks the Middle East, destabilizes it and take everything they can
-As a consequence, extremism both in politics and religion rises to new ATH
-Western world in general is perceived as a threat to their existence (which is quite true)
-Western world is attacked by anything Middle East can launch

That's all.

That does NOT MEAN:
-The "terrorists" are brave soldiers fighting back invaders
-Anyone attacked by "terrorist" deserves to die
-West is completely guilty for everything

I KNOW that West and East fought for decades. Trying to say "this one attacked first" would not only be impossible, it would be stupidly useless.
I KNOW that the people making bombs aren't necessarily people who got directly involved in the previous wars.
I KNOW that people attacked are not always responsible. ISIS attacked Sweden guys, Swedish never attacked anyone since WW2

What I SAY is that YOU CAN'T bomb, attack, loot entire nations, kill hundreds of thousands of innocents and expect everything to be alright.
We created this threat and it born only from our warmongering behaviour. West is guilty as a whole, from a global perspective, it doesn't imply every citizen did it consciously.

That's all I'm saying and all I said. If you understood something else then please read again.

Lack historical perspectives, you get a D-.

If you use this logic as you suggest now Britain must make Jihad to Lebanon. I'm sure the power of the British army enough to destroy the whole of Lebanon and not a single inhabitant did not commit the attacks. But this will not happen because the liberal values of Britain do not allow to do so. Muslims are savages and they need to either destroy or isolate from a civilized society.

The Islamists think music is bad, music is evil, so they bomb a music festival. They disagree with Christmas, they run a truck into a crowd at Christmas. They don't like gays, a couple of them take rifles and kill gays at a Florida nightclub.

It has nothing to do with the British people, or the German people, or the American people.

Of course, Jews are another matter entirely. They want to kill Jews because well, Jews are Jews.

Is this a deed

ISIS ???

Believe me the hatred as multiplied 100 fold for islam..
They attacked young girl children ..
Really brave NOT..Pussies ..

My government have no balls ..

CHURCHILL I AM SORRY MAN..You be spinning in your grave..

I know to many fucking lick arse money grabbing Islamic loving politicians who love there money..

WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM..
You leaders are weak as FUCK..

In 1 week i seen a poor Russian get his head cut off  Cry
And now killing children in a concert.. Angry Angry..

IT'S FUCKING WAR..

We really need to step up security all over the world and be prayerful. Event around the world show that we are really in the perilous time. Evil keep on increasing every day and good are decreases daily. The gods of this earth has taken over the heart of man. May the soul of the victims rest in peace.

Yes, Islam has found it much cheaper to buy off Western politicians than to fight with tanks and rifles.

Are we at war with Islam? Maybe not, but Islam is at war with us.

NO IT'S NOT WAR..Because if it was WAR we be holding 4 ISLAMIC HEADS 2 in each hand..

Fucking war for who PUSSIES..
This is not war ..War is when we have boots on the ground and anyone with a rag or looks funny
gets a bullet in there heads..

Planes flying over   little nukes bombs helicopters blowing everything up in sight..

THAT'S FUCKING WAR..

Go in 4 ways surround you all in and kill every last person that is standing..WAR..

They knew if they bomb a nation you don't invite the enemy in..
Greedy politicians ..

Look we shouldn't be doing deals with SAUDI ARABIA but someone will so we think fuck it someone will do it so we will make the money..

Always the money..

Just lets get this right if we was at war we would just nuke you and be done with it..
We are not at WAR..

BUSINESS WAR  ..Not civilian war  ;)..
Civilian war possible millions dying ..

Business war 100 people dying in our lands ..

You got the oil so loads will die..Fighting to see who can sell to the WEST..Even to sell to the far east..

Like gangsters fighting over drug patches ..
Oil merchants fighting over selling oil..SAME SAME ;) ;)..

Ah Jews, everyone hates them. And rightly so... without Judaism's offshoots like Christianity and Islam, we wouldn't be in this mess... Probably.

Oh, good that no one died. Well I hope terrorist enjoy his 72 virgins in heaven now, assuming he managed to find his weiner from the rubble first. No weiner, no boning. They should just all go Pastafarian. They get all the sex they want in heaven (not virgins though) and get to drink that delicious, forbidden stuff called beer.

No explosion on Earth needed. The only explosion they'll experience would be that delicious, frothy beer volcano.

Why a busy donald trump should be busy taking care of this
What is this hunbungan with donald trump ???

This is a very big warning signal. The terrorists are always improvising, using better and better explosive devices. This time, the civilians were lucky. But don't wait until they develop some deadly explosive device.

Duh. Everyone with half a brain and internet can build a nuke if he has enough fissile material.

Luckily ISIS are 3rd world goatfuckers.

We can actually defeat evil,
if we can unite to help anyone who is troubled,
believe evil increases in existence of difficulty

This may be a right time to send the messages of unity. But let's don't forget the real reasons behind this attack, such as the radicalization of native born Muslims and uncontrolled immigration.

The destruction of the world is getting closer, maybe some high-ranking state officials who ignore this issue at this time are very threatening,
We have to start a change to be able to handle this crisis thing ..
The threat of terrorism is getting bigger,

This is really dangerous

Maybe it's time for another Crusade end this Blight once and for all? It seems a hard battle to come because of how the West was cucked but it needs to happen.

And BTW, great image. I'm definitely going to keep sharing this.

Love this image and it's absolutely true. They are cowards.

So... I guess in the second category we can also put the British/American/French soldiers currently dropping bombs in cities in Middle East?

Or does dropping bombs on civilians count as "warrior"?
I wonder... It makes you think doesn't it?

They're monsters but... Who created the monsters?
And once you found who created those monsters (rather easy in fact, look in a mirror), what's the creator of a monster if not a monster himself?

Anyway good picture.
Incomplete, but good picture.

They're monsters but... Who created the monsters? ..THE KORAN ;)

Depends.

I guess if the JIHADI COWARDS hide behind women and children shields in a firefight, and if they are ASSHOLES ENOUGH to store their bombs and make more in mosques, not many people are going to sympathize with them. FYI were I in command I'd relax the rules of engagement far, far beyond what they are now.

More importantly the ISLAMIC COWARDS are all over the place, not just where XYZ is currently or in the past dropping bombs. 30,000 Islamic extremist attacks since 9/11 are virtually worldwide in geography.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Are you seriously saying that the USA never intentionally bombed civilians or civilian infrastructure?

They even killed Reuters journalist and tried to keep that under the rug.

If you're referring to the Video of the Apache helicopter killing those men and journalist, he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. There was no way they could identify him as a journalist all those men were armed.

I suggest a good way to view this matter is to start by looking at the ROE card that the military carries. Here's one from Iraq — I don't know that it's current, but this will give you an idea.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/11.htm

Rules of Engagement for U.S. Military Forces in Iraq

Issued by U.S. Central Command Combined Forces Land Component Commander

A laminated card with the following text was distributed to all U.S. Army and Marine personnel in Iraq.

CFLCC ROE CARD

    On order, enemy military and paramilitary forces are declared hostile and may be attacked subject to the following instructions:

    a) Positive identification (PID) is required prior to engagement. PID is a reasonable certainty that the proposed target is a legitimate military target. If no PID, contact your next higher commander for decision

    b) Do not engage anyone who has surrendered or is out of battle due to sickness or wounds.

    c) Do not target or strike any of the following except in self-defense to protect yourself, your unit, friendly forces, and designated persons or property under your control:

    Civilians

    Hospitals, mosques, national monuments, and any other historical and cultural sites.

    d) Do not fire into civilian populated areas or buildings unless the enemy is using them for military purposes or if necessary for your self-defense. Minimize collateral damage.

    e) Do not target enemy infrastructure (public works, commercial communication facilities, dams), Lines of Communication (roads, highways, tunnels, bridges, railways) and Economic Objects (commercial storage facilities, pipelines) unless necessary for self-defense or if ordered by your commander. If you must fire on these objects to engage a hostile force, disable and disrupt but avoid destruction of these objects, if possible.

    The use of force, including deadly force, is authorized to protect the following:

    Yourself, your unit, and friendly forces

    Enemy Prisoners of War

    Civilians from crimes that are likely to cause death or serious bodily harm, such as murder or rape

    Designated civilians and/or property, such as personnel of the Red Cross/Crescent, UN, and US/UN supported organizations

    3. Treat all civilians and their property with respect and dignity. Do not seize civilian property, including vehicles, unless you have the permission of a company level commander and you give a receipt to the property’s owner.

    Detain civilians if they interfere with mission accomplishment or if required for self-defense.
    CENTCOM General Order No. 1A remains in effect. Looting and the taking of war trophies are prohibited.

REMEMBER

    Attack enemy forces and military targets.
    Spare civilians and civilian property, if possible.
    Conduct yourself with dignity and honor.
    Comply with the Law of War. If you see a violation, report it.

These ROE will remain in effect until your commander orders you to transition to post-hostilities ROE.

Bullshit

You could clearly see unarmed civilians in the infrared video.

Here is an eli5 for our east european friend:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike

@spendulus

I know the rules of engagement. It still doesnt answer my question.
Do you seriously believe the US army never intentionally killed civilians?

Well the civilians knew war was happening wtf are they doing hanging around armed men? Surely common sense would tell you they would be targeted.

They got what they deserved.

It is so sad to see a rich country like Britain being victimized by terrorism. This is just proving the fact that terrorism can be so hard to track and stop...we can only be for sure about it once the deed is done and has already killed and maimed many innocent people on its way. I must say that there could be a failure of intelligence here or that terrorists these days have already evolved so they can easily deceive those in the authority like the police and soldiers. All of these things can lead our society to close and be wary all the time.

In The Independent on April 8, 2010, human rights activist Joan Smith asserts that the engagements were like a game to the helicopter crew. She writes that the co-pilot urged a dying, unarmed journalist to pick up a weapon as he tried to crawl to safety; and claims that the footage shows "... the Apache crew opening fire on civilians...".[42] When the crew were informed that a child had been injured by their attack, one initially responded, "Ah damn. Oh well", and a minute later continued, "Well, it's their fault for bringing kids into a battle".[42] Smith describes this reaction as inhuman. She draws parallels with soldiers who suffered post-traumatic stress disorder in earlier wars. She continues "... the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are inflicting huge psychological damage on combatants".[42] In refusing to recognise this, the US military fails both its own soldiers and their victims".[42] Command structures need to be in place to identify "combatants with serious psychological problems",[42] she concludes.

You should join the US military. They need more suckers like you.

What can i say Cowards that use Children as Human shields. The rats have been disposed of.

Please don't try to reframe the argument and use logical errors to make propaganda points. Your request is framed "never inten..." such that even just one case intentional by one soldier would, in your fantasy world, prove your point. Just like one bad cop makes them all bad, right?

That's not the real world and you know it.

Actually, your own reference, Joan Smith, has now recognized the need for military intervention.  She's changed her tune.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Smith
Although Smith was opposed to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, disputing the false claims about the Saddam Hussein regime's possession of Weapon of mass destruction, she has taken a different view during the Syrian civil war. As a consequence of the Syrian refugee crisis,[4] and the 2013 Ghouta attacks using chemical weapons, she has called for military invention.[5]

How about you? Wake up, buddy.

The van was owned by a civilian who drove his kids away.
The guy he wanted to safe was the injured reuters journalist.


@Spendulus

1. So you believe US war crimes and collateral damage are unique situations and usually never happen in US american warfare?

2. What is the link between military intervention and bombing civilians or civilian infrastructure?
Or rather where did i say all military interventions are bad?
Im german so i know the world would look pretty different if the US didnt intervene in WW2.


Please answer this questions before i send you thousands of links about us warcrimes in the last  5 decades.
Im sorry but this game you are going to lose for sure.

There is no responsibility from the British Uk. Lone wolfs attacks cannot be prevented. I wonder what they gain by doing terror like this, except ruining other Muslims life in the Uk. Immigration laws should be tougher and tougher otherwise we will be overrun with immigrants and although I have nothing against immigrants, no one can assure us that they are all good people.

Let you give you some of my logic because you know how good it is ..

They even killed Reuters journalist and tried to keep that under the rug. WRONG..
You will find it was the journalist themselves who jumped under their rugs..

Now for the last bit of logic ;)..

1400 years of Islamic wars America was not even invented ..


australian imam says what is wrong with quran, muslims... - YouTube
Video for australian imam saying islam is wrong youtube▶ 7:01
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australian imam says what is wrong with quran, muslims... ... Andrew Bolt challenges Muslim, on Australia's ...

Popcorn

There were 3 attacks. Watch the video it takes only like 40 mins.

Im not talking about the last 1400 years. Im talking about the last 50 years of US American warfare.

So what exactly do i lie about or apologize?

You seem to think i lie about us american war crimes/atrocities and apologise ISIS terror correct?

If yes i would say put your head out of your ass and use it to think about what i posted.


And btw. Never heard of the german RAF or NSU?
Also nazis were working for the west after ww2 and were involved in a lot of state sponsored terrorism against communism (see south america, europe, south asia).

Germany had atleast 4-5 millions before the refugee crisis.
1-2 million immigrated in the 60's to us and we didnt integrate the first generations at all (your stone age muslims).

Why did the bombings and terror started just few years ago in the 2015's?
Why didnt they already started in the 60-70's if jihadism is an integral part of islam?

Your logic seems to be incorrect.


I dont look for a scape goat i just objectively look at the whole picture.
ISIS = terrorist = very bad people
Muslims != ISIS


I have muslim friends who went with me to school and college - i know what i am talking about.

So why arent their muslim bombings since 1960 in europe?
Why did bombings just started in the 2000's with 9/11?

ISIS is a terror organisation. Religion is just an excuse for them.
You dont want to tell me that the lord resistance army are christians too?

Wahabism and salafism are extremist views of islam - compare that to extremist christians who literally believe in the old testament.
/edit
I agree with you though if you say that we have much more muslims beliving in that then christians beliving in the old testament.
But this i would say is caused by low education in the muslim nations.
They didnt went through enlightment like europe.
/edit end

Im sure im not the one losing his mind since i am still able to formulate arguments and having a proper discussion.

So....

Is your last name Merkel or are you just trying to be as ridiculously stupid as she is?

So economic migrants from turkey are no muslims? Especially the land living/farmer turks?
You are contradicting yourself.

In 1980 there around 1,8 million muslims alone from turkey living in germany.
That was around 2-3% of the population. And the number increased to 4% in 2006 (muslim turks only).
And it is fact that there exist huge turkish diasporas in germany.
No muslim terrorist bombings till 2 years ago.

Something is wrong with your narrative that muslim = terrorist = isis.

Do you realize that you think you own the sole truth?
You are much nearer to being an islamist extremist then i could ever be, oh dear.
Badecker has a point if he calls your out on atheist religion. You display the same traits in discussions about islam.

@spendulus

Much denial i see.

Hey Criptix I think it's impossible to use logic with those people

They're so sure about how right they are that when you point at the errors of their logic they just don't see it.
They're really close to the "terrorists" in fact, they have no logic or reasoning they're just fanatics.

And of course as every fanatic and religious scum they can't be convinced by logic.
The best way to prove it is how they immediately try to class you as a "stupid leftist that should just wake up and stop welcoming your migrants friends" even though you never said you were for immigration or that you were happy with it.

They've separated the world in 2 parts. Them and the ennemy. If you don't act like them and think like them you're an ennemy, that's all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

Bombings did not start in the 2000 with 9/11. It's just that we have a convenient, world wide documentation of their frequency since then. An easy way to look at terrorist actions before then is to simply look at Yassir Arafat's 400 some terrorist actions, but there are many other ways.

Regarding this assertion of yours...
ISIS is a terror organisation. Religion is just an excuse for them.

Respectfully, you don't have the right to say that. You need to look at what they say. I'll take their opinion over yours as to what they are, thanks.

Finally and obviously, there are no comparables between ultra conservative Christians and Islamic terrorists. None. Zip. Nada. Nunca. NIchts.

Oh, and I'm half German.

Oh criptix i think you need some more of my good LOGIC..
 
When Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland on 21 ...
Location‎: ‎Lockerbie‎, Dumfries and Galloway, ...   Date‎: ‎21 December 1988
Blamed on‎: ‎Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi   
Two Libyans have been identified as official suspects by Scottish and US prosecutors over the 1988 Lockerbie bombing in their investigation.

Many years before 9/11^^

So why arent their muslim bombings since 1960 in europe?..

Because never been so many cars on the road .
Because never been so much immigration .
Because never been so much money flowing around.

Now lets split them up if your wondering what's that got to do with anything.?

Because so many cars more OIL more OIL more wars..
Because of the wars they are letting people in   in way more numbers than ever before BASICALLY
free movement of people..
And many of these people can just about speak our lingo    many cannot even do that LIKE ME :D.
But many come in our lands and bring there own ways of life..

Now imagine this?..
10 homes 9 Germans live in 9 homes in a village and 1 muslim family live in the last home
the muslim family will integrate with the 9 Germans ..

Now imagine 5 muslims and 5 germans in the VILLAGE..YOU GOT A WAR ;)..They will want there way..

German Kids Beaten ( Migrants Attack Native Germans) - YouTube
Video for german child getting beat up by refugees▶ 5:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvTcDzwZAk
19 May 2016 - Uploaded by mele host
German Kids Beaten ( Migrants Attack Native Germans) ... Up next. Italian TV crew ATTACKED by MIGRANTS ...

Dutch don't do much islam WAR..

A DUTCH KID IS BEATEN UP BY MUSLIM CHILDREN AND LOOSES ...
Video for german child getting beat up by refugees▶ 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7rbR4kUPYA


Now imagine your the only GERMAN left in your 10 home village the other 9 are muslims what will happen ?..

Primary school pupils were 'forced to recite Muslim Allahu Akbar ... With migrants now outnumbering native children in many German ... Such were the large number of calls from worried residents to the town's mayor Dr Sigrid Meierhofer ... out and all the young girls talked about their worries of the refugees.


Germany is facing a spike in migrant crime, including an epidemic of rapes and ... And please take Saxony and the Alternative for Germany (AfD) with you. ... to move her family out of the city because migrants were making her life ... more than one million mostly Muslim migrants to enter the country in 2015.

Islam Will Conquer Europe Without Firing a Shot - YouTube
Video for islam will conquer europe without firing a shot▶ 5:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCGYKSEsYFM
15 Jan 2016 - Uploaded by DASKALOGIANNIS


BUT IT'S OK ..You keep inviting people with backward beliefs to wipe your own beliefs out..

They rape our children and the LAW says nothing..
They bomb our children and the law as a VIGIL ..

I don't know why we don't invite them into our homes and tuck them up in bed with a cup of tea ::).
I was going to say you can fuck my wife too BUT i think they want my children instead..

In case there is any doubt left, music, and music concerts, are not allowed by Muslim rules. Hey, just blow up a couple of them, say the Sharia Enforcers. Show them we don't want that Evil Western Music. That's what this is about.

What's the worst type of ISLAM?..

They hate gambling..

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BIT LIKE A DRUG DEALERS ^^ <Who don't take drugs but sell them..



They hate Music I.E dancing and singing..

King Salman performs traditional Saudi dance - YouTube
Video for saudi kings dancing to music▶ 1:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1lhupmLl4Q
10 Apr 2015 - Uploaded by Yemen and Saudi War Channel
Popular King Salman of Saudi Arabia performs traditional Saudi dance The popular sword-waving dance



They hate naked uncovered women...

SAUDI Rulers Opress Women while they Party, Drink Alcohol, and ...
Video for saudi kings partying▶ 3:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EsEhQ_Zylo

 Saudi Arabia royal families held wild parties with working ...
Video for saudi kings partying▶ 3:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp6UAnvVtOw
7 Sep 2013 - Uploaded by saudi online


HYPOCRITES ^^^..Or is it taqiyah and they can say i was only joking ..

According to them, if there are other forms of entertainment such as music and movies, then the "followers" will get distracted from their primary objective (producing children). That is the reason why they ban music and other forms of entertainment.

To be concise, I am arguing that the bomb at the concert was intended to voice the Muslim view that music is not allowed. I am arguing it WAS NOT a protest against neo-colonial British policy, in any sense. Rather it was (whether stupidly or cunningly is another question) directly related to the concept of world dominion by an Islamic Caliphate.

In the absence of a specific statement of intent by the bomber, some Muslim apologists argue that bombings like this are a reaction against recent abuse and incursion of Middle Eastern nations by Great Britian. Thus, they argue, "Britian deserved it." That's saying in the absence of war, in peacetime, one should go slaughter innocents. By this logic Germany today should be attacking the United States.

My suggestion that the tactics used by the bomber of fear and intimidation at the music concert are strictly due to draw attention to non-Sharia compliant activities seems much more straightforward and logical.

Thoughts?

It seems like you are wrong about Islam, Many people in Europe think that Islam is inherently incompatible with multicultural democracy, and that it poses a long-term threat to Europe. and conclude that the reasons for this must lie in the inherently undemocratic character of Islam. and conclude that Muslims cannot be good citizens of Western democracies,It looks like you think like that

Yeah, if past grievances are going to be used as an excuse for terrorism, Spain would be all ashes now from all the people from former colonies going there to explode - not to mention Jews and Muslims as vengeance for the Inquisition. So far the only bombing I remember was one from the Basques - who probably got easier than the Aztecs or the Maya.

But (According to the Islamist) Islam is perfect and it's people are the only real people of God and you are kaffir, you are a dog. To make Great Britian perfect, as it would be with Sharia Law, notice must be provided to you stupid kaffirs. You'd understand if the real people of God blew up a music concert or two, wouldn't you?

That's the way these sick fucks think. Myself, not only do I not want any of this nonsense but I don't want any of the culture from which it stems, and yes that means the "modern moderate Islam."

Takiyya, lying to further their cause, can be considered a rational response.

YET ANOTHER CASE WHERE THE AUTHORITIES KNEW ABOUT THE RADICAL TARDS BEFORE BAD THINGS HAPPENED

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fbi-warned-mi5-january-manchester-attack-bomber-salman-abedi-manchester-arena-a7760756.html

Praying for the bereaved family, God will strengthen and comfort, Amien.

maybe they are religious fanatics, and their main goal is to encite terror in peoples minds

But what Abrahamic faith didn't kill non believers at some point in history, on a large scale? The Crusades invalidate a claim of peace for all the Abrahamics except Judaism, and the current state of Israel Palestine reflects quite poorly on the dominate culture group, which we can all agree are the Israelis. People tend to die when a majority decides it's time to, it's the unfortunate but the way shit works here.

Now that I have said that, is see another definition for politics; codifying opinions that aren't universally popular so that they stand the test of time.

Man, why the fuck are you hollering at me? ;) Chill. You see a voice of consensus, I see a shill, an apologist for a belief that is mired more in fear than rational thought. They are terrorists. You have been terrorized, as member of the public. It shows.

Nah, the issue I was addressing was the blatant ass racism that I've been diplomatic about up to this point. Come the fuck on. If you think all Muslims are to blame, them take responsibility for the recent stabbing in Portland. You are American, yes? You have a dick, you are a guy, so you are just like him, yes? Better the fuck yet, you are most likely white. He was a white supremacist,  surely you are to blame?

Y'all are showing your ass.

Edit: Be rational goddamit. I apologize for yelling, I had a poor day today. We are all pissed about this. But let's not let that cloud the gestalt.

This day is a terror day.  In philippines there is maute group who terrorize the southern philippines.  In UK there is a blast in arianne grande concert.  Something is wrong in this world people nowadays get crazy.

And yesterday there was an attack by the ISIS in Karrada, Iraq. Some 17 people died and many dozens were injured. And about the same time, there was another Islamist attack near al-Joura, Syria, in which more than a dozen died. There is a common link connecting all these attacks - Islam.

I`m very sorry for those good and innocent people who died as a result of the explosion. Why did the police stay idle, and did not examine people entering the stadium? :'(

Christians used to have the same view of their religion and yet they managed to reform their religion into what you see today. Maybe it helped that the New Testament don't have as much violent passages like in the Old? I read that in the Koran the more violent verses are near the end and with some gymnastics on their abrogation principle they can claim it's a religion of peace will also claiming that later revelations, while not negating those that have come before, are still much better.

It also helped that Jesus died and did not lead an army like Mohammed. When people try to be like Jesus, they focus on his suffering. When people try to be like Mohammed...


Don't bring the Crusades into this. It was a response to the Byzantines' plea for help against the Muslims chipping away at their territory. Had the help come a few decades earlier, the result would have been different. Had Muslims not been there, there would have been no reason for the crusaders to be there either. Of course it also have some sectarian and political aspects to it (crusaders realizing that the Byzantines don't really see it as a holy war).


This was after the concert. People were all leaving the stadium. Security is more focused on making the people leave orderly. They were not checking for people coming in coz, after all, the concert was over.

This is something that I've said for awhile, the worlds a changing and there is nothing we can do but try to stop these deadly attacks from happening again. You must change the world, but we shouldn't allow the number of attacks to somehow normalize it in the least and we should always take these attacks with the highest degree of sadness and hope to be able to change something in the world to stop this from occurring again.

Who knows how to stop it though, it's one of those things that's tough if the people are homegrown - the only thing you can do is surrender some of your freedoms to the government for them to watch over and ATTEMPT to find a terrorist that is homegrown, though even then that may not work.

All these problems and issues could be solved easily but, unfortunately, our governments are either too incompetent or too corrupted (either morally by left-wing ideology or financially). All we need to do is to take Japan's example. Why there has never been an Islamic terrorist attack in Japan until now? For one simple reason: Japan has reduced contacts with the Islamic world to the minimum. And immigration policies are pretty strict in Japan. Foreigners are welcome, but they have to behave in compliance with Japanese society's rules and customs.

No need to indulge in blame game here. The European don't know when the next attack will occur. There was no prior information from the intelligence department regarding the attack in Manchester, so the security personal didn't took any additional precautions.

Seems like Hillary Clinton knew father of the bomber well before hand. Well do your fathers, gentlemen?  ;D Do you still believe the story that poor Ahmed was discriminated against, while your overprivileged asses should feel guilty?

Also good riddance, that bitch Clinton lost election squarely. Serves backstabbing marxists right.

Ramadan Abedi, father of the bomber:

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/libya1_2.jpg?w=640

This is why they won't reform themselves, they believe the Laws are set in stone. An since they are unlikely to experience what Europe went through that led to secularization, I'm not expecting religion to be a non-issue for them in the near-future.

The election of Donald Trump as the president of the United States (and the defeat of Hillary Clinton) was the biggest disappointment for the hardline Islamists. Had Hillary won, then an  ISIS sympathizer (Huma Abedin) would have become the first lady of the United States.

why does somebody have to go and do that to innocent people :'(

So that their shit religion would be in the news and in peoples' minds and in threads like this. Strictly for publicity. Then their liars start blabbing in those channels about how "It's not islam, islam is peace blah-blah-blah."

But the very point is that the channels of communication that put Islam in the media was opened up by the violent actors of Islam. They want those conduits because they want to be a primary subject of conversation.

I only read parts of the koran but i read the old testament so i know that it was copied by islam.
Christian could change so why muslims cant?
Stop your difference bullshit because it is nearly the same (look abrahamic religions).




Palestina and israel is a political and not a religious war.
Its about "Lebensraum".

@wahabism
Here i have the black belt in wikifu:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fundamentalism

@religion is an excuse

So we agree that the lords resistance army from uganda is a faithful christian NGO?
Ok!

@popcorn

Gadaffi didnt bomb the plane or the disco in west germany because of islam...
Just wikipedia or google dat.

There are multiple reasons. First of all, terrorist organizations such as the ISIS are able to recruit new radicals mostly through attacks such as this one. Staying in the media limelight is another reason. Also, the terror groups receive a lot of donations from similar minded individuals after each of these attacks.

What do you think about yesterday's concert?

I think Ariana Grande was pretty and really emotionally touched by the event. There were also a bunch of sluts like Little Mix.

But the most important thing is about all the money they raised by donations. It's $2.6 million!
Where does it go? The reason of this big fund raising is definitely not clear... how can it help to stop terrorism or to help victims' parents?