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Due to the pretty good turnout of Monero Madness (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1812750.0), I figured that hopefully we'll get the same good turn out and not dread the upcoming winter months with a good ol' fashion fantasy football league.

This thread is just to be able to see how many people would want to participate, but the tricky part is that for fantasy football to work, we need to get an even amount of players (6,8,10,etc.).  This is why I want to get word out there early so we can have some time to find more people as we get closer to football season.

As of right now we still got some things to decide on:

1.Buy in:  I'm suggesting a 1 xmr buy in, but if people want to do more or less, let me know in this thread so we can discuss.

2.Escrow:  Since we had Jwinterm hold the "pool wallet" for Monero Madness, and the fact that I personally just trust the guy not to pull any bamboozles or flim-flams; I say we use him as escrow. But if someone else wants to recommend someone to hold funds (that is trustworthy) for the league we can do that too since Jwinterm will be participating.

3.Trophy:  I'm willing to purchase a nice little trophy for the winner.  I'm thinking it would be pretty cool to have a trophy passed around over the years to the winners and have their names (pseudonyms) engraved on plaques.  I'm thinking 1st place gets the "Golden Barolo"?  I'm really interested to hear peoples thoughts on this, so please let me know below.

4.Scoring:  Since I'm not quite sure if anyone is super into fantasy football or not, I just wanted to make sure if people were ok with the scoring system that ESPN had on default.  I copied and pasted it here (https://pastebin.com/Xxtr23jL).  If anyone has any recommendations of changes, let me know.

5.Draft Time:  This is flexible.  I still don't know my schedule for work and I'm sure everyone has to figure out what times they are available as well.  I went ahead and set the draft time for Saturday, August 12th @ 5 PM EST or 2 PM PDT.  Let me know what day/time will work for people and we'll figure out a time everyone can dedicate at least 2 hours or so to drafting players.


More ideas to make this better will be well received.  Please post in this thread if you will like to participate and state how much you are willing to put in the pot (1 xmr?).  After you post on here, you can also include your email you want me to send an invite link too, or you could just PM it to me.  From there you can sign up, join the league, and I will put your name below:

Monero is a very good altcoin worth investing, and I believe there are a lot of monero user out there so starting a Monero Fantasy Football League might be workable, but to start off with 1 XMR buy in might not be very attractive, as players might want to familiarize themselves with a couple of games first before deciding to deposit higher amount.

I understand what you mean that now and days 1 XMR is a pretty steep price in terms of USD; but at the same time this isn't a daily fantasy football league nor am I running a daily fantasy website.  This is for the full NFL regular season and we are just having someone hold everyones buy-ins for the season and pay out to the winner at the very end.

I agree with you on this.
Monero is the best solution for casino operators looking for an alternative to use as opposed to using bitcoin due to the high fees to send out withdrawals and the wait times for the deposits they take to reach their players accounts

Their has been increases to the withdrawal fees for all casinos now. :-X

I'm in! Lets do this, glad you did it as I was considering it but being dependable is not one of my strong suits these days. :)

1/4 of my XMR is up for wager. :D

1st annual Monero Fantasy Football League participants:

1. phishead (floam412)
2. Jwinterm
3. Hueristic

Current Jackpot is 3 XMR

I understand that might be a little pricey.  You will have to front the money first to get an invite... Lets just see if anyone else has any feedback on the price of buy-ins, and if not we can probably change it to 0.5 xmr.  Would that be alright?  Still have some time to decide since the draft won't probably happen until late August/early September.

1XMR is fine to me, and I only have 4! :D

Considering you have been around the community ever since I can remember, I'm frightful of what "1/4 of your XMR" equals... lol.  But I think a $25-50 wager is pretty reasonable for a season long fantasy football league.

What are you thinking for buy-ins?

EDIT:

Well that works out perfectly! lol

LOL, was editing my post when you posted this so your ninja'd! :)

shit you Ninja'd me!

Ok, I will PM you if this is the case... as of right now it's too early to tell, sorry  :-\

want0sell, if it comes down to it I would be willing to spot you the 0.5 xmr, and then if you win I will keep half the pot, or if you lose you don't owe me anything. Not sure if that would be OK with everyone else, but I don't see why not...

Edit: Or who knows, maybe at deadline in a month or whatever monero will crash and only be worth $20 each :P

Some questions: Would this be an auto-draft?  Or are players responsible for their own picks (could be very time consuming)?  Is there a limit to free agency moves during the season?  What about trades between players (this can sometimes lead to suspicions of collusion)?  I also think Yahoo has a better FF user interface compared to ESPN, so that might be worth a look.

I think those are mostly all up for debate at this point. I don't have a very strong opinion on any except that auto draft seems kinda lame and boring (but don't know how much time is involved with actual drafting). I'll ping OP on IRC of he doesn't reply by tonight.

I think auto-draft is the way to go for everyone except the hardcore FF players.  Usually done in person with everyone at a kickoff party.  Completing a draft on the Internet could take an unwieldy amount of time.  The skill to FF -- if you can call it that -- comes with deciding who to start each week, anticipating player rotation for bye weeks, and the acquisition of free agents who have been undrafted or waived.

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.


Believe me in that you will do a much better job picking a team manually than letting it go on auto draft. You really don't have to know much about players though. You just don't want to pick an overwhelming amount of players that play, say, wide receiver because most of them will sit on the bench.

I understand people have lives and can adjust the draft accordingly.

Also-- people can trade or pick up/drop players throughout the season like normal. No limit that I know of.. it should be all the "normal" settings.

That has never happened in my experience.  The auto-draft algorithm at Yahoo is smart enough to give you 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 4 WRs, 2 TE, 2 DEF, etc depending on how your league is setup.  It never loads up on one position, but is indeed assigning them based on a pre-season ranking.

Out side of the scope of the league you can loan anyone anything you want but the commish can't really be expected to enforce anything on that. But since you will probally be the escrow I don't have an issue with it.

But whats up with your trust want0sell? I don't like scammers are you getting those tags removed?


Is this a bought account?





Drafting is most of the fun I'm not interested in an Auto Draft.


AFA trading, we have to decide on a method of accepting and rejecting. I would say a majority of players must accept a trade for it to be accepted and probably a larger amount to accept if a top 10 is being traded.


I played a league last year that I missed the draft and got auto'd and had a real shit team and lost the first four teams but made the playoffs so the draft is not the most important thing you can still do good if you cannot draft and get auto drafted. So many guys get injured that most of my team is replaced by the end of the year anyway. :)

Well I mean if you signed up to play, you can go on auto draft if you want... but I'm not making it a mandatory thing that everyone must do. That takes all the fun out of it.

I've had autodraft give me guys that are suspended and other stuff like being injured. I personally hate Autodraft the ranking are always wrong.

@Hueristic Since people will have to pay the leagues wallet as a type of "buy in" to play it doesn't necessarily matter if a person has bad rep here or not. If you look at the link in the OP and read  the old Monero Madness thread, I had it where people would have to pay and post the tx hash. Then we had the wallet public address and private view key available to verify funds have been sent to that wallet. That way no trust is needed, and private invite to join the group can be sent after the funds arrived. I'll have to edit that part in the OP, but I'll do it tomorrow since I'm on mobile right now.

As far as trading goes, I'm pretty certain there is a system like that in place, but this is my first time using ESPN. I've used Yahoo Fantasy Sports in the past too and there was some sort of system like that in place I think by default. I would assume there is something like that in ESPN too, but will have to look more into the rules there. I'm sure I can edit the rules to go by something like that, or we could just use Yahoo instead of ESPN. Whatever is fine with me.

I will look more into it tomorrow and get back to you on that.

I've never used ESPN, in yahoo it's the commish's decision on trades unless it's changed.

I'd like to join in for 1 XMR (or less.)

My limited experience is through Yahoo Fantasy Sports. It works well and pretty intuitive. Whether manual or auto-draft I doubt really matters, the secret is to pay attention who is hurt or has a by-week before you make your line-up for that week.

Ok, I'll put you in.  It looks like there is a majority of people who are more familiar with Yahoo Sports, which is honestly kind of surprising (thought most people would be more familiar with ESPN).  I'm OK with using Yahoo and will delete the ESPN league if that's ok with everyone else?

Also, @ Hueristic, I looked more into the settings for trades and such, and if you are interested in what is the default settings, here (https://pastebin.com/td1Xwf8y) it is.  It allows me to change the settings as well, but like I said above, if more people are comfortable with Yahoo then let's just stick with that.

I'll go ahead and make a Yahoo league and keep the ESPN one too just in case.  If anyone has objections to Yahoo, let me know.  Also, Jwinterm just made the leagues wallet and I will post the addy and private view key in the OP so people can send their 1 xmr and will give instructions on how to verify your funds have arrived.

I'm fine with yahoo or any site really but if I had to vote i'd go yahoo, My XMR is currently Margined so can you accept Paypal?

Ok, and I would really really prefer not too.  I personally never use PayPal just because I think they are horrible; but maybe you would be able to get someone else who uses PayPal that can send in 1 xmr for you after you pay an agreed price using PayPal.  Also the reason I want only XMR buy ins is because if the price changes in 5 or so months (which it probably will) 1 xmr always equals 1 xmr... so I don't want anyone to get agitated if someone paid too much or too little during this buy in time.

I would be willing to trade PayPal for 1 XMR for hueristic or anyone else with very good reputation.

NP


Thanks man. :)

Bump for interest.

Still up for debate:

1) Draft date and time
2) Trophy (?)
3) Buy in staying at 1 XMR per person

I'm interested in playing. I wouldn't want the buy in to be more than 1 XMR, but I'm fine going lower.

I think 1 XMR ($30-50) is reasonable. How many people are we shooting for here?

I'm hoping for a 8 person minimum... 12 being the best scenario.  What gets tricky is that we probably need to have an even number of teams just because that's how fantasy usually works because everyone needs to have a matchup each week.

If shit gets desperate, I'm sure I can find someone IRL who can play that I will buy in for since they wouldn't know anything about cryptocurrencies in general.

... I think we might have another person on Reddit wanting to play (bigreddmachine)... maybe Mike could hook us up with a sponsorship on Monero Monitor and I'll cover his buy in? I've been meaning to donate to his podcast anyways.

 ;D

Can't wait! The update to the OP is alot better! :D

You reddit guys drum up some peops! Gawd I hate that site, heard a good name for it the other day. I think it was Redneckbeard, Hah

The golden barolo:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/metal-wine-bottle-shape-trophy_889857676.html

You only need to order 100 of them!

The loophole to that is that you can always request a sample, usually you can buy one and pay shipping. ;)

But then get ready to be on the mail list forever. :D

Anyway trophies are cheap at trophy stores, I bought ten for my pool team and it cost about $100.

This one.

http://www.athleticawards.com/images/products/pool_table_pop.jpg

lol, who the hell needs 100 of those things?? I've been busy recently, but when I get some time I'll look around and see if there are local trophy shops to see i can get one customer for cheap. If you guys find something else in the meantime let me know.

https://youtu.be/kfAwCIcmVf8

Just a friendly reminder to everyone who has signed up to play, please send 1 xmr to the pool wallet and notify us here in this thread by giving us your tx hash. If your confused how to send and verify your payment with everyone else, please check my example (and my actual transaction) in the OP. We need to get everyone paid up and squared away before the season starts.

Thanks.

Edit: speaking of which we need to decide on an official draft date/time

I would suggest sign up payment deadline first day of pre-season?

Will send after I close my latest margin. :) I just can't help playing the market. :D

AFA Draft date time I would say after pre season and a week night when it's not 4am for anyone. We can all pm you our UTC and what time we want and you can suggest a time that will be close to everyone hopefully. Around 2am UTC is my choice.

ALSO: In the op there is a space in the address so anyone trying to follow your directions will get a parse error without removing the space so if you put it there intentionally then add a step to remove the space character.

You can fix the space in the address error by putting it in code tags.

Ohh yeah, I forgot it's a board issue.

Txid: 243a75a81d8ab6966b9a6f46ae4710de79a7b2efc8817e0e76b641d2a35c7d74

Outputs (2)
output public key    amount    output match?
00: a7b7e358c8a10d95865f686fde6b7fb2da4d4e4e287266ac0279037ee600e017    ?    false
01: f6847215237177f8b5cfa498145a1d639ac6dc09231c3cfdb9ed73ebb7bed176    1.000000000000    true
Sum XMR from matched outputs (i.e., incoming XMR): 1.000000000000

Also phishead, can you add code tags to the address in the OP. As you can see the board is messed up and adds a space on long strings. This may confuse people trying to cut and paste the address.

444Gcj1wUK2Nsfkqiign4EJeYQVhpf4AWgt2NvCBEhWJLCWmeNrgZ6JjfcNqDfswHccmqYx9EtypX4b TD1qZ8EkzGvHQVqu

Ok thanks Hueristic for catching that, I updated the OP.

As for draft date, I definitely can't do weekdays/weeknights because I work pretty long hours during the week. I would be way more down to draft sometime on a weekend, but preferably not that last weekend in August.

OK then post you available times and days and we can see what works for us.

Confirming receipt of Hueristic's 1 XMR buy-in. I'll send mine later tonight and post when I do. Weekends are usually good for me, or most days between 6-10pm PT.

OK, my money is in too:
354d4cafff9eb9d35db26fdc718bfa90d8264f6b67b3a886250e20c6e0156e9d

FYI I never take 2 TE's and since we are doing a standard league there is no DEF. :P

So I've just done a mock draft to see how long it would take and it took 20 minutes and thats not bad at all.

Here is the link to do a test draft.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/mock_lobby?lobby=standard

LOL, I did 2 mock drafts and got a D- and a C . Guess I gotta do a little scouting before the real draft. :D

Not sure if this link will work for you guys.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/mockdraftgrades

My monero is in!

f3ac8665cf4c1d43d0104878c4f93bbaf2b25d74d717e83a3128d68164bd469e

Alright guys, so I have been able to verify that everyone has paid with the exception of want0sell.  Not really quite sure what his/her status is but I still haven't heard anything... so it could just be 4 of us here, which leaves us in a weird situation if we don't get more people to play. 

typically at the least you would need to have like 8 teams to play, then have our "play offs" during the last two weeks of the regular NFL season.  Not quite sure if I can set up a league with only 4 teams, but I'll see if I can manage something like that.

I will PM everyone and get your emails you want the invite link to be sent too (because apparently I can't just copy and paste the link to you).

So, what needs to be discussed is 1) how can we get more people to play, and 2) what should we do if we can't get more than 4 people to play.  :(

Keep posting reminders on reddit and here. Like every few days until draft?

Has anyone tried slack? I'm assuming someone has done reddit. I don't frequent either much at all. How about a notice in the Monero irc channels? I'm know there is as script for banner ads but don't know the channel rules on the subject.

I posted some threads on Reddit a week ago or so, and mention it in IRC occasionally. Maybe time to start pinging people specifically if you know anyone who might want to play.

I Pm'd a few people a while back and it turns out all my internet friends are not US residents! Lol who woulda thunk it. :)

My RLF's don't get into fantasy, they just wanna drink and watch the Pats win another one. :D

http://games.espn.com/ffl/leaguesetup/settings?leagueId=92631



I think this needs to be changed,Unless you just want to fill one side and leave any empty teams on the other?



I'm guessing you will change this when we decide on a date?



Lastly I think the trade review period is too low. We will need time for everyone to be able to weigh in on a trade 2 days is not enough. Also the votes needed will need to be adjusted if we don't get other players.

Looking Good So far. :)

So, a couple of things.

1) We really need to start thinking of a draft date.  Apparently a league with only 4 players will work, but it's the bare minimum of teams to make the league work.  So with that being said, we can still accept more players but can't lose any.

2) Hueristic has been having issues with creating an account on ESPN.  LennyCarl, can you sign up as soon as possible to see if you have issues as well?  If there are more issues, we can just go through yahoo or something like that.

I get a "We are experiencing technical difficulties" when I try to sign up. I'll try again later.

Hmm, alright. Both of you guys try again a little later and let us know. I can create another league in yahoo if all else fails. As for draft dates, who is absolutely opposed to doing it on a weekend? I vote next Sunday August 13th if that works for anyone?

Saturday or Sunday is fine but it depends on how late in the day (the later the better). I will be on the east coast that weekend. Please, let's try to do it in the evening.

Your probably blocking one of their IP's or JS or a Popup blocker is causing this. I had a hell of a time allowing their nonsense ip list js and unnecessary ads to just login.

Phis, the new invite worked fine. thx :)

I'll have to use a VM to play as I'm not leaving all that shit open when playing.

I am in now. Says I'm joined.
 :)

Alright so I'm assuming everyone is in (on mobile; haven't logged back on ESPN). I can set up the draft date to start this upcoming Sunday in the late afternoon, maybe around 5ish? Days that work for me are limited, so if this weekend works for you guys, let's do it then.

I wasnt able to get anyone else to join, but since four technically works I guess we'll be fine. I might make one last post on Reddit or something, but thinking I might avoid it because I don't want to be the spammy guy. Not to mention 4 xmr is like $200, so it's a reasonably big pot up for grabs.

So let me know if this Sunday at 5 PM (EST) works for you guys... I can even do 6-8 PM, but anything starting past that is getting a bit late for me.

Sunday afternoon should be good for me. I'll still try to get my bro to join...

Works for me.

Ok, as of right now I have it set for Sunday at 5 PM EST.  LennyCarl, if you can't make that just let me know and I'll change it to another time or something like that... I would just prefer to get the draft done ASAP since I have some stuff I'm going to be busy with coming up later in the month.

Here is the draft settings I have set (thought this is the fairer way to do it):


with 90 seconds per pick and only 4 teams, it should actually go really quick compared to other leagues I've been in.

I'd rather it be later, like at least 6pm. I'm visiting relatives and know I'll be out and about all afternoon and not sure if back in front of computer that soon.

But if we can't make it work maybe I'll have my draft picks all lined up by then and I can let it autodraft from my list (I know you can do that with Yahoo.)

EDIT: You know, even 6pm is probably too early so don't make changes just for me. (Going to check out the SpaceX launch at 12:57pm on Sunday!!!) So, still haven't looked into it but hopefully I can set up an autodraft list...

hmmm... we can change it to next Sunday maybe? Would that work better for people?  Only thing is, is that is the last day I can possibly do it my self since I'm going to a wedding and working a couple days later...  So preferrably within the next weekend after this Sunday.

Seems like a fun idea, If I have a chance i will try to sign up before the deadline

Nah, I don't think that's necessary for me. I checked out the autodraft feature and it looks straight forward (and even better than I remember Yahoo's version). With only four of us, so far, I think I'll be satisfied with the players I get.

However, looks like there might be some latecomers, so waiting for the following weekend will allow more time for that to happen. And the more the merrier.

I can do either Sunday.

Also, failed to convince anyone else to join :/

If you have any questions on how to join, just let one of us know.  Just basically follow the instructions I have posted in the OP sometime soon and I will include you in.  Just let me know of your intentions on doing so before weekend, because I have to make sure everyone can be available for draft.


If you are doing autodraft, would you still like me to extend the time back to 6 or 7 PM so you have a possibility of getting back on time to pick any remaining drafts?  I really don't know how autodraft works, so whatever is good for you is good for me.


Same... no one I know IRL wants private internet tokens.  I think there actually may be some stragglers though that might pull through though (1 person replied to the last FFL post today wanting to join, bigreddmachine still might join, and buneskiti looks like he might join too.)

Not that necessary to me to wait until 6 or 7pm. I suppose if it was later I can watch the autodraft in case it goes wrong or gets screwed up...But if you got important reasons for getting it over with sooner, then that's fine.

Woah, Wait a SEC. NOT this Sunday! We still have 3 weeks of pre season. Also I will be busy this sunday until like 10pm EST anyway.


I misread this, I must been tired or something.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971415.msg20678609#msg20678609

I have a buddy that said he's interested as well. I just sent him a link to this thread, but he's not on BCT yet.

OK, so no draft this sunday? I'll try to work on my bro when I see him Sunday. Maybe tell him I'll give him 2 xmr if he uses one to sign up for Monero FF.

LOL bribe him. :)


My buddy is in. He doesn't do crypto so I'll Either send his XMR to you or have him paypal you. I have another long open right now and don't want to close it in the red as usual. :)

So we have 7 now? this is getting good. :D

Heuristic made a good point with all the preseason left. And it can't hurt as far as getting more involved. I see all my Sundays as being busy this month but oh well, autodraft it is. My minimal experience with the draft is that it moves pretty fast and it just might be better (for me) to autodraft it, anyway... Like I have very little knowledge of the players, teams, etc. these days.

I don't think any of us are up on whats going on this year from the sound of it and now that I'm thinking about it I think my buddy might smoke us all, he's played a few years now.

You should be able to set a que for the autodraft but the disadvantage is if it becomes your turn and there is a great value there that is not on your list you can't take advantage of that. Also like Phishead was saying with a 15 second timer the draft will go real fast so hopefully we can all be available for it.

Maybe we can make a rule that if you autodraft and a team that is not taken drafts a player after you in the same position then you can trade with that team? That sounds fair to me off the top of my head. So as an example lets say you autodraft and your ques gets taken before the draft ends and the auto takes a guy who's on ir or suspended for the season then you can switch that with a player that was in the pool at that time that is on a non player team? Idunno what do you guys think? I hate to see someone at a disadvantage from having to auto.

I was talking about creating a customized draft list, one that is hopefully updated just before our draft to exclude any recently injured/suspended players, etc. See here: http://games.espn.com/ffl/tools/editdraftstrategy?leagueId=92631&teamId=4

I played the last couple seasons and my friend who follows NFL pretty damn closely and runs the fantasy league won 2 seasons ago and got dead last this past season. So, it helps maybe a little to have some knowledge going in to the draft, I don't think it is absolutely necessary. With many variables and some luck and attentiveness, just about anyone has a chance to win. There are tons of info available online to form an educated draft list.

EDIT: A big negative with autodraft is you can't change a player based on position in the middle of a draft round. I.e. you have it pick the best available running back but if your top choices are taken, you'd rather have the best wide receiver, than the fourth best running back. I guess in that case you can create a list of best players regardless of position but then you might be left with not enough good running backs or receivers or wasting drafts on too many in a specific position. Um, yeah it can get complicated...

Speaking to what everyone has been talking about above, I agree that this Sunday is a little early for the draft; however the name of the game is picking a date and time where everyone is available to be online for 2 or so hours at once which can be a little difficult since some (probably most) of us are in different time zones.

So how about we do it like this... everybody post up the days where they are most certainly not available for.  I know I definitely won't be able to be online August 24-28.  Any day around that time frame would work, but I would prefer it to be on a weekend just because it's easier for me.

I will push back the draft time to a later date.  I'll attempt to get my brother to join up, but he's already in like 2-3 leagues, so I doubt he will want to... we'll see.  :P

Can we use like a shared Google calendar for this? Sorry for the delay but I've been busy, I just sent my buddy the email to make an account and post in this thread.

Shit my maintenance level is down to 68% Dammit! Longing XMR can be a stress fest. :)

Stuff like this is the reason we should not draft until after pre-season besides injuries and potential rookies the league is handing out suspensions during this time.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20302469/ezekiel-elliott-dallas-cowboys-suspended-six-games

http://imgur.com/a/mSD5k

http://imgur.com/a/mSD5k

Doing my due dillegence and recruiting in person for the pre season... see you bitches at draft.  8)

Edit: I think I got my buddy and my gf on board for the season. Anyone else get anyone? If not were at 6 which is pretty good.

Edit #2: when we draftin?

Sorry guys been at the casino since my last post. My buddy backed out, which is probably not a bad thing as he would have won I think! Lol

I'm obligated to go sip wine in Napa this coming Sunday now, so it's gotta be Sept 3 for me. Or I have to figure out autograft.

Man... that is tough.  Sorry you are getting dragged through that... :-\ :P

Yeah, I will be out of town too... does anyone have issues with doing the draft in September?  And if that's the case (which looks like it is) what is the best date and time for everyone?

Anytime after pre-season i'll be there, now that we know we can all make similar times. Hmm time for a spam I think. :)

Works for me. I'm in Oregon through Sunday and only have my phone (which would be a bitch to draft with!). The eclipse was awesome, by the way.

I expect to be home and available the entire following week.

I wasn't in the line for the eclipse and was overcast so I missed it. What was special about this one? They made a real big deal about it for some reason I'm not aware of.

Go on the site and setup a autodraft list and when the draft is live if you cannot get your pick in because of the phone then you will get the top guy on your auto list that is available. Otherwise the default is whoever is top rated whether you want that postition or not.

Good idea. I will at least setup the auto draft this week.

Seeing the eclipse in real life just felt really special. There was an eerie stillness and color to our surroundings and it got much cooler. And during totality you can take your glasses off and look at this gorgeous "ring of fire". Just surreal.

Much like the SpaceX launch I got to see last week, it's so much better to witness in person.

I need to find a good picture of that, all I've seen are CGI that all the networks were running.

Ok everyone... getting close to crunch time.

Need to make our picks before September 7th. What time and date are people wanting to draft?  I can do September 5th at 8 PM or anytime after 5 PM (EST) on September 6th.  I could potentially make any other date work before that, but for work reasons I might have to go back into work at any given point in time.  Hopefully we all can get our picks in at some point.

Sunday or Monday would be best for me, or after 8pm EST on Wed the 6th.

Still accepting entries?  It looks like there are currently five (four and a half?) signed up?

Yep! If you'd like to join, follow the instructions in the OP and post your tx hash in this thread. Afterward I'll send you an invite link.

Side note: holy shit @ the prize pot in terms of USD value now... impressive 8)

I should be available for any of these times.


This is your only post? Can you PM why? I'm assuming this is a SP?

Hi there, if space is still available then I think Im in,just need to know which day. And if I cant make the draft, I'll autodraft it.

Nice, Just follow the directions in the OP and your in. :)

So how about we go with Sunday (Sept. 3rd) at 3 PM EST?... I will set that as draft time as for right now, and if there are issues for anyone, please let me know ASAP (preferably within the next two days).

Sounds good. You have it set for 7 teams atm, though, and there's only 4 XMR in the wallet...

I will put in/invite the extra 3 teams that might want to join only after they pay the 1 XMR to the pool wallet and provide the tx hash here for everyone to verify. That way we won't have to edit and delete teams right before draft starts if people won't pay up and avoid people being upset if people just refuse to pay at all.

Hi All.  I've paid the entry fee. Tx hash is: a0a76f96ba2fbc440e6ddbcdf74aded804a716307a5cdf496960a7ee78cb2aa8

phishead, I will PM you my email address.  Hopefully there's an even number of teams participating.

Apologies if my brand new account appears odd.  My main account is tied to my public identity, so I created a new one for this purpose.

Got it:

No problem, and good luck! Once I get home from work I will send you the link in a PM.

Shit! thats the one time I can't make. this sun and mon I will be tied up until about 8pm est (your basing all times off of EST right?). I can do that time next week or during the week from tues on.


I kind of figured that, I would like to know your main account if you don't mind PMing me. It would be nice to know when playing against you. :)
Actually I will PM you a email you can use if you like.

So the only problem with that will be that the first NFL game starts Thursday, September 7th... sooo... I'm assuming you want to do Tuesday?  Any one have a problem with Tuesday at like 5 or 6 PM EST?

Edit: How are you guys pre setting an autodraft?  I want to set mine up some kind of way to pick how I want in case I get called back into work.

Edit #2: I have set up the draft right now at September 5th (Tuesday), @ 6 PM.

That time looks good to me, I tried to setup the autodraft and it's not that hard to shuffle guys that are on the screen but it took about 3 minutes for me to move one guy from 400th to 100th so trying to add possible rookies is just not worth the effort. The interface blows, but we are stuck with it this year.

Maybe somone knows how to change draft positions faster than dragging and dropping? If you hit the down arrow the guy goes to the bottom of the list, I tried to move a guy down and he went from a top 10 pick to 1500th! I see an upload option but have no clue how to use that.

Ohh I did a test draft and the shockwave wouldn't work but they have a choice of using a livedraft page which looks like it's html coded and that worked but the timer was horrible. 30 seconds is too short when your in the middle rounds and trying to scroll down to find a guy, there is just not enough time.

Do a mock draft and check it out.

Tuesday at 6pm EST works for me, too. yay!

I did a draft last night for a Yahoo league with some friends. I suggest everyone follow along in case you want to override the auto-selection (I mistakenly ended up with too many good running backs and not enough good receivers.) I think ESPN's version is going to be better but I still expect to be present (luckily.)

If anything, having a pre-draft list ready and loaded, will make the draft go faster.

And I'll also go through the motions with a mock draft. Current monero prices make this a slightly more serious affair!  LOL

I definitely can't make it Tuesday at 6pm, but I'll just setup autodraft.

Hmmm... So Tuesday could work for practically everyone, but how about Wednesday at 8 PM EST?  I talked to Jwinterm on IRC and he said Wednesday would be better for him... and I would prefer everyone be able to make the draft, but if someone else can't be able to make on Wednesday, we'll just stick to Tuesday since Jwinterm doesn't mind autodrafting.

Neither time on Tues / Wed is great for me but I can make either work.  Tuesday at 8PM EDT or Wednesday at 8:30PM EDT would be better.

Is the number of teams final? Seems like there are 7 listed in the league and 5 that have paid?  I believe if we end up with an odd number then at least one team will have a bye each week, and some teams will have more bye weeks than others.  Not ideal from a competitive standpoint.

There are some other possible workarounds to this (ex: points-only scoring, each team plays every other team each week) but I don't believe ESPN supports those options.

No, the number of teams aren't final... So I've been waiting to see if someone else was going to show up and want to play last minute, but if no one else does, I am considering having my GF play and I'll pay her entry fee (haven't brought it up to her yet, but I think she wants to play a league).  I agree that 5 teams is really awkward for fantasy football and was hoping it wouldn't come down to this, but idk what else to do.

Tuesday at 8PM Eastern will work, I think the only person this doesn't work out for is Jwinterm and he's already told me that he would be fine with autodrafting.

If anyone else can find someone last minute please let me know.

I PMd someone else I thought might be interested in joining.  I'll try a couple of other people if he's not interested.

Sounds great, thanks.

And I'm sorry I keep changing the times on everyone, but I think I'm going to finally set the draft for tomorrow at 8 PM EST (Tuesday)... This works in particular with my work schedule and seems as if this could work for everyone else except Jwin (who doesn't seem to care about autodrafting).

Can I please get everyone who is signed up to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down to this time?

Thanks again everyone

Edit: if anyone wants to chat on freenode during the draft or anything related to the league, I'm on #monero-ffl

Thumbs up.  I'll hop on freenode later today.

My attempts to recruit another player didn't pan out. Only other thought is to maybe post something on r/Monero to see if someone jumps at it today.  Otherwise, I'm OK with having your girlfriend play, as long as everyone else is.

 ???

Hmm... I might have to delete the extra spots in the league so it's full..???

If so that's dumb. ESPN is slowly getting on my shit list.

Thumbs up for today at 8pm EST. Hope it works out.

I'm good for either of those days and times. Yeah ESPN is a real pita did a mock draft in both yahoo and espn and yahoo wins hands down.

So it's tonight at 8pm EST? I can wait till tomorrow if JW can make it then and everyone else as well.

Did anyone do a last minute post spam about this?

I will be out in the yard and setting an alarm to draft so will not be responsive much. I will check back here in a few minutes to see what the final verdict is.

No time for IRC right now.

GOT this email

I deleted the extra teams that were "empty", so we should be good to go.

So apparently Xfinity decided to fuck me right before this draft and my wifi doesn't work. So looks like I won't be on IRC, and will be trying to draft on my god damned phone.

Dude, you want to push it to tomorrow? It's ok with me, anyway.

Besides, it would be great to find one other person to make it an even 6 teams.

But either way...

Meh, it's ok... way more of a hassle to last second reschedule a draft time tomorrow... plus it's kind of hard to get a bad team with only 5 players drafting.

Hah I thought it was only 4 lol, But I was thinking the same thing! the problem we are gonna have is there are gonna be too many good players on the wire! no worries on our bye weeks lol. :)

Edit: I asked about having an odd number of teams with bye weeks in the schedule and the best Idea I saw was to have 2 matches per week. I have no clue how that would get set up though.

And it begins!

Up for trade:

Demaryius Thomas, Den WR
Kirk Cousins, Wsh QB
Vikings D/ST D/ST

Post any players your willing to part with I'm ready to deal. :)

That draft was... interesting.

Seem like everyone got "good" or "stupid good" teams because of the fact that there were only 5 people. Hopefully this whole bye week thing won't pose a problem down the road. I guess we'll see how it goes and hope for more people next year.

Yeah, really with this few teams they are all stacked. And I think I may end up doing better streaming some players rather having drafted those positions.

We learned alot from this one already and next year should be a snap.

BTW anyone you willing to trade? I am going to be a waiver wire whore this year! :D

So I was thinking earlier today about how could we make this whole "bye week" thing suck a little less ass... and thought of proposing this:

What if the league throws in a random/smaller amount of Monero into a pot each week, and whoever has the most points (excluding your bench, obviously) amongst everyone wins the pot.

I thought something like this would be fun to do, and would allow everyone to "play for something" each week rather than a week that doesn't really mean anything.  This is just something random I thought up of, and if no one else agrees to this, it's absolutely fine and we just won't do it... just thought I would throw the idea out there and get y'alls feed back.  I was thinking something like 0.05-0.1 xmr per week per person?


Mehh... none of those players/Defenses sound very appealing to me, tbh.  The only person I might consider is Demaryius Thomas.  What type of player are you after?

I like your idea of a "collective bounty" we can place for the high scorer every week although I am not sure what I can put towards it. I am in a very bad short position with all my precious ATM. But I really like that idea. I'll have to wait till the others chime in.

AFA a s trading Demarious, I got him in the 6th round and this is the list of players you got after I drafted him so tell me who you would be willing to bargain with. Remember we can make trades with multiple players so it does not have to be a one wr for one wr. Of course I am assuming that you are not interested in trading players that you drafted before him if so you can add them to the list.

In order of your draft after I drafted Demarious:

DeAndre Hopkins - straight trade I would think is fair
Tom Brady - Maybe a straight trade
Dalvin Cook - we would have to do multiple players for a fair trade
Marshawn Lynch - we would have to do multiple players for a fair trade
Matt Ryan - we would have to do multiple players for a fair trade and I do not think i have room for him this week

I of course would give you a ton for
David Johnson or A.J. Green


BTW:

@CARL: I had TY Hilton selected when the autodraft grabbed Elliot for me just to let you know he was about to get snatched. And had Jorden Reed selected when auto grabbed crabtree for me :D

Julio v/s Antonio choice was really tough one for me but Big Bens miserable road record and I think Falcons should step up after the superbowl disaster are the reasons I grabbed Julio. :)
what would have been your choice? You also snapped up Devonta Freeman AND Dez Bryant right before me good moves!


@Tecmo Bowlers I had Aaron Rogers set after TY Hilton when the autodraft grabbed Elliot for me just to let you know he was about to get snatched. Also     Jay Ajayi was gonna be my next pick when you took him off the table! :) You also got Dvante before I could get him but I think he and Benjamin are pretty close and am not sure who';s got the higher upside. Adams has a better (FAR) QB but Benjamin doesn't have a lot of competition for the ball so it should be interesting to see which of those does better this season.

@phishead you snagged  Marshawn Lynch right before I could get him so I grabbed Montgomery, nice move!  :)

@JW Autodraft grabbed Emmanual Sanders right before I was gonna snag him. Also I couldn't decide between Hunt or Hyde and think I made the wrong choice (looks like with ware getting injured Hunt should really get a ton of snaps now!) :)

I took a chance on Bennett as I think rogers is going to keep him fed and he's gonna get a lot TD's so if Jimmy Graham turns into a Dudd instead of a Stud He should slide right in or if Jimmy starts off sharp and Martellus also kicks butt I'll have some good trade equity with him. I had to grab 2 as a chip to play because of falling behind getting a QB. It was tough passing on     Martavis Bryant to grab him so it should be interesting to see how my gamble pays off (or doesn't). I thought I could get Seattle D but again those 3 auto's messed my game plan up pretty well and T Bowlers made a very nice choice grabbing them at that point! So I jumped onto a Kicker a little early but gostowski is just fantastic and Getting one of the top3 kickers can actually really make a difference in a tight contest. I wanted the Chiefs D and thought I could sneak Gostowski in and grab them on the next pick But JW's autodraft was having none of that! :D


Well thats my take on the entire draft! PHEW, I'd love to hear all you peops thoughts on your draft.

Great summary. The strategy definitely changes when you have such a small number of teams drafting.  As you mentioned in an earlier post, with this league I think streaming / picking the right players week to week is going to be more important than just playing your draft picks over and over again.


I'm up for it.  We could also split the existing pot, maybe put 10-20% of the total towards this idea, or wait and award it whoever has the most points at the end of the season. The league commish might need to manually keep track of bye week scoring.  Everyone should make sure to set a good lineup, even on bye weeks!


That's one possibility, although I don't believe the ESPN website supports it.  There are some "custom" fantasy sites that allow that sort of thing, but it would mean we'd have to set up a new league, import the draft results...lots of work, and probably not enough time to do it properly.

Another option I've heard of to deal with an odd number of teams is to create a "scrub" team and fill it with third-stringers that no one will ever want to own.  Then each week the commish calculates the average score per position league-wide and manually adjusts the weekly score for the scrub team to be "average".  This means that whoever plays the "scrub" team has to at least have an "average" week to get a win.  (Of course, the scrub team isn't eligible for the playoffs.) Again lots of work, for the commish, but possibly more competitive.

The more I think about it the more I think it doesn't matter about the Odd teams as the Playoffs will be 4 teams so only one team will not make the playoffs! When there was 7 teams and there was only one team with multiple byes that would have been a problem. I'm guessing the larger the league the more troublesome this would be. Definitely something for us to keep in mind for next year. BTW when we had 7 teams I was the only one in that position and just figured I'd bite the bullet.

I do not endorse splitting the current kitty for anything, I don't draft or stack my team for anything but to beat my weekly opponent and many times I may just win but not get the most points I could have but I err on the safer side to win that week. It is a completely different strategy to get most points of all teams (you have to take more risk with your lineup).


@lt8877, your Techmo Bowlers right?

Phishead could you edit the OP and remove wannt0sell and add the team names next to our monikers?

I like the idea of adding up the total number of "wins" at the end of the season, however, everyone has to be in agreement with how we fund the "winner" for both the actual league and the weekly total... how you guys want to do that is up to everyone.

And yes I can update the OP once I get home from work... a little tough on mobile, plus I'm at the end of my lunch break lol.

Yup, that's me!


Maybe we just have a non-mandatory side bet for anyone who wants to play for total points scored?  That way the current pot remains untouched and if anyone wants to opt-out of the points competition they can.  I'd be in for any amount up to 1 XMR.

I'm down for that... who else is up for a side bet of 1 XMR? Or maybe 0.5 XMR buy in? We'll give it until Sunday for people to decide if they want to play.

Also... who ready for the GOAT show?

Countdown to Brady getting his knee took out by a chef in 5, 4, 3, 2,...

nawwwww... but I'd be damned if they can't cook a good omlette tho'.

https://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2014/08/cookingdance_food.gif

How long is one round going?

God awful! That D was horrible I can't believe I played them! DOH :)

I think thats the most points the chiefs have ever made in a game!

This is a season long thing, so I'm not quite sure what you are asking.

Well, you should be laughing now. It appears Elliot will not be suspended any part of the season! It bugged me that he was for a long time at the top of the best-players-remaining draft list when it was assumed he'd be suspended for at least some of the season.

Really? I thought it was just week one. It's funny how our picks were the same on many rounds. :)

So how can I get a general consensus of who wants to do the weekly total point match ups, and of those people, for how much Monero?

I'm thinking of playing and proposing to bet anything from 0.25-1 XMR.

Well everyone has not chimed in yet and since this week has already started you should shoot for having all the wrinkles worked out by next week. I hold so few BTW if I chipped in 1 every week I would have none left! Alphabay murdered me.

I'm not sure I really understand what the side bet is, and how much it will cost every week...

Ohhh.. no it's not every week.  

So there are 14 weeks (I think?) in the regular season for fantasy football, so we would have a competition every week for the total amount of points between everyone and then whoever won the most weeks at the end of the regular season would win the side bet.

Again.. we don't have to do this side bet if you guys don't want too... but I figured it would give people on bye weeks something interesting to look forward too/play for

It's a fine idea. But I'm okay either way.

EDIT:
You like gambling?
https://www.xmrlotto.com/

Actually I got my tickets earlier today!  And you know, I was talking to jwinterm on IRC and he had a good point that who ever would win the side bet would probably win the overall bet as well... soo... just forget what I was proposing...

I didn't even think of that, I think he's correct. :)

I don't know about that. How do you figure? We would all have bye weeks.

??? If the highest points for the entire schedule wins then it stands to reason that team would have the highest average therefore winning most weeks and would win both.

Actually, I had assumed we were talking about a side bet on the team with the highest number total number of points for the entire season, but I like the above idea too.  And I had assumed we would be betting a single amount, not a weekly amount.

Basically, just looking for a way to stay engaged on the bye weeks.  (And I have been in plenty of leagues where the championship team was not the one with the highest points or most wins...so it's definitely not a given that the same team would take both. )

Again, count me in for up to 1 XMR total on the side bet, either total number of points for the regular season or the team with the most number of weeks with the highest total points.  Perfectly OK with a lesser amount as well.

I was thinking of a situation where I have a bye week but my players score 1000 pts. I still don't get a win. But then the following week my team can score 80 points and still beat your team that only got 79 points. Different players dominate each week.

How about this, we do a small bet like .015 every week for whoever gets the most points that week including their bench! And that bet is optional for instance I decide OK I think my entire team bench included will do well this week I opt in wor that week and the bet is split up between those that opted in for that week?

And a Bet on whoever wins the most weeks or gets the most points for the season minus the playoffs is a good idea but I would not join that bet as The autodraft really fucked me, it changed my entire draft order and i have WR's and spare TE instead of a QB, RB and Def I needed. Or maybe I would join it if I can make my team acceptable after this weeks waiver pickups.

I guess there are lots of ways of doing the side bet.... I know lt8877 is wanting to do something for a sidebet, is anyone else genuinely interested in doing a side bet, and if so what system do you guys want to do?  Either:

A) Total amount of wins per week amongst everyone in the league

B) Total amount of points per season amongst everyone in the league

C) Total amount of points including the bench amongst everyone in the league per week or per season

or

D) Something else

I guess I'd pick B (not including the bench!). Pick A is ok too. Not C: When any of my star players has a bye week, I don't want to drop him from the bench just to pick up some dude to replace him and possibly win a side bet, lol. We should all have good enough players to potentially win most points (except Heuristic!  :-\ )

I'm on the fence about side bets, anyway. But I'll join if everyone else is into it.

LOL, I before E and U before E when referring to me. ;)

I would only be interested in doing a small one every week not one that is settled at the end, unless it was a really low amount.

@lt8877 Well that was a great match-up it really came down to the defenses you pickup of the stealers was fantastic (browns suck I almost grabbed them but it was @Cleveland and decided to go with a home team:: W00ps) and My Patriots got beat to shit! They may not be able to field a Defense at all next week! Congrats!!!  :D

I would vote A then B then C.  But no worries if we just drop the side bet.


Yes, great game Hueristic - tough loss.  I agree that the Steelers D was a key pick-up.  I did not feel confident with the Seahawks going up against the Packers, even at home.  Feeling pretty lucky to get the W this week given that Evans and Ajayi were on bye and I left Fournette on the bench.  NFL week 1 definitely had its surprises. 

I've offered trades. will not be in communication much I'm at casino loseing the farm. :)

I think I'm gonna hold onto chef rb. He was probably like #1 point producer last week. I'll think about a counter...

Yeah, I don't blame you. :)
I was away and didn't get my waiver picks in on time and wanted to snag him. I'm not sure what the order was. I'm pretty happy with my team anyway. Still at casino now so i'm online sporadically. If hadn't picked the pats for D last week I might have had a chance I really didn't look at the numbers but my Def spread was like 28 or some huge number. :)

W0w, glad I didn't play phishead this week!!! Brady/Gronk went insane! Would you have played Anderson (he went nuts as well) if Johnson wasn't on IR? That worked out really well, I don't think I've ever seen him put up those numbers before.

Brady/Gronk = stronk ... just hopefully his "groin" issue isn't that big of a deal like he says

And honestly, I don't think I would've played CJ but glad I did! Might have to reconsider my starters/flex if CJ keeps posting up big numbers.

Going to try and keep OP updated with the current standings

Thats cool, I think we are all even with one win and one loss except the team that had the first bye so that pretty nice to see. :)

I'm finding it a fun challenge to stream my D and QB each week. I got really lucky that Crabtree went Nuts with Jordy Nelson missing almost the entire game! Funny thing is I was going to put new Pats RB in for flex but at the last minute heard that Crabtree just turned 30 and there was talk of him being to old so I swapped him back in figuring he might pull a Steve smith and he did! :D

So who wants to do a trade??? I've got some juicy guys on my bench. :D

Yeah you crushed me. With all the player changes you were making I got the feeling you really know what you're doing!

I am also paying in a Yahoo FF league. For the record, because it is way too late to change now, the UX is hands down, head and shoulders, way way better than ESPN.

I just really enjoy watching the games and keeping track of whats going on behind the scenes (It's really like a football soap opera out there with all those meatheads on roids!) so I act on stuff thats not as widely known but I blow it Spectacularly as well! Like I did with Changing out The vikings D with the Pats D last week! UG that hurt. :) I tend to choose high risk reward players, it's the gambler in me. :D

AFA our game I really thought I was going to get a blowout when Crabtree went insane with Carr (I also noted that Cooper had such a big week last week that he would get more coverage and the Jets D is just horrible) but then Ezekiel had the worst game in history! You made a great choice with the Bronco's D they crushed Elliot and let Dez do his thing which worked out great for your team, not many people can set a lineup with a player thats against their chosen D and put up good points with both!!! And then Jordy got smashed before pulling up one catch and and of course Freeman is a force of nature so I had little nail biting going on there as Mongomery is a real wildcard. I had him on a team last year and every week i played him he gave me nothing and when I didn't he went full beast. This is the only league I joined this year but i think i'll jump in a yahoo one, I agree the interface is head and shoulders above espin, espin even makes it hard to find the weekly points for your players, what a crappy layout they have. If your fun yahoo one has a spot let me know and i'll take it over.


Just to add I don't think Gronks injury is that worrysome as he was out on the bike, that pretty much shows they just pulled him because they could.


Ohh and Denvers Offence is just looking fantastic, I can't believe that's the same team that played last year, kind of glad no one took my Demayius offer.

Did anyone else watch the game last night?

Unbelievable! San Fran has not scored a TD yet this season and they put up 39 Points! Yet that wasn't enough, Rams held on with 41.

The rams came out of the game like gangbusters and Gurley (The rams back that JW [monerobux] owns) put up an astounding 37.9 Points!!! Since he's playing me this week you can imagine my chagrin at seeing him score 3 touchdowns in the first Half!!! On the other hand I played Hyde this week as a gamble as JW on paper has a much better lineup and I needed to gamble a little bit. My reasoning was Rams D has not been good against the run, San Fran was at home and Hyde is the only productive member of SF up to this point. I was really regretting that decision as I watched Gurley go up by like 20 points over Hyde at the half, It seemed every time the Rams passed they would get stopped within 1 to 3 yards from the end zone giving gurley 3 downs to punch it in which is on par with trying to stop Marshon Beast Mode Lynch in that same position. Luckily for me the 49'rs woke up and turned into a football team somehow and I managed to get 2 touchdowns out of Hyde for a total of 24.4 points which is outstanding and really may save this week for me if the stars align. :)

I can live with being down only 13.5 points after the Incredible game Gurley had!

Didn't watch it but having Gurley, Watkins, AND Hyde on my Yahoo team made my phone blow up with all the scoring updates!

San Fran hadn't scored a TD before last nights game, I believe. Scored 5 last night.

W0w, you hit the Trifecta! :D

Well, I was really happy the last week with the ravens D so they were playing Jacksonville and I decided to roll with them and Damn They laid and EGG! thats 2 out of three weeks my D has screwed me! funny thing is I used to stream D's pretty well in the past. Literally thought without robinson Jax would have gotten crushed, I would have never guessed Jax could put up these kind of numbers, they must have pulled a fire alarm on the Ravens hotel. :)

Ohh and The Ravens Offense is just Horrible! First time I've watched a Ravens  game in years.

I didn't watch, but sheesh, 44-0 when I just checked. Must be jet lag...or something...

Oh damn and my kicker plays for the Ravens. I got 1 point!!!

I tried to throw Pats RB Gillislee in flex as a hail mary last second but espin said bite me. :)
I'm not feeling Ezekiel after last weeks performance but I have no other RB to swap in now. Fingers crossed gonna need it. :D

AFA Ravens kicker, thats a good call normally as they can't find the end zone, problem was they couldn't find Jax's side of the field! 3 yards first half or some such thing how horrible is that!

LennyCarl is coming at me w/ full force, jesus christ.

There is a lotta regret going on for me with my lineup...

LOL. Stefon Diggs turned it up a notch!

ROTFLMAO!

How the hell did Diggs do that!!!

BTW ye had little faith in Brady. :P

I have no words for my matchup its a blowout!

Nice matchup, Smelly Gentleman. It became very close at the end. No Collusion! LOL Smell you next time!  ;D

Tecmo Bowlers, you have the edge in projected points but my running back tonight did a little better than expected so this could be another close contest. Looking forward to it!

I meant to do a write up on the massive blowout JW gave me last week but couldn't find the time and don't remember any specifics anymore but I don't think one of his guys put up less than 20! Everyone he had went on a tear and everyone I played was Horrible it's like I was on the same cooler I'm seeing on the poker table!

He literally beat my entire team and bench added together with just his lineup!! 180+ Points, how do you do that!!!!

Pretty much pure luck :D

Ouch, already lost and Tecmo Bowlers STILL has 3 players left to play. No bueno.

Got a solid 10 point lead on jwinterm...

All I need to happen is for three NFL stars and a whole defense to not play tonight due to food poisoning or OD on heroin or something. Easy peasy... Either that, or have the Redskins give the Chefs the ass whooping of the century so they go super negative on points... and even I realize that's a ridiculous scenario.

Ha yeah, negative points!  :D  It's the only way for me to win. Never give up.

HEY!!! I'm the King of picking Negative Defenses! :D

I hate my Pats right now. :)

Monroe is very anonymous and I love watching the football league and you have a great idea

Cool, to bad you didn't get in in time.


Don't forget to swap out Michael Thomas! Shit just looked at your team a little closer and you are stacked!

BTW have you seen that want0sell accounts trust lately?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=865791

I'm having a tough time picking QB this week but I got lucky tom Terrific bombed so I think I'll stick with Dak and not sweat it.

/me shrugs

Thanks for heads up, I did actually remember to check earlier and stuck in Golden Tate.

Thinking of having a closeout sale 3 RB's. Interested?
Chris Thompson
Duke Johnson Jr.
and/or
DeMarco Murray

@phishead

Goddamn it! AJ Green is going insane on me!
Shit, Luckily for me Walkers TD got called back on that holding.




ANyone?

I know a few of you are light on RB's, don't forget they get injured alot *cough David Johnson


ADDED: HAH! I think I have to retract that offer after seeing what my RB's did this week!!!!

What a matchup Team monerobux and Tecmo Bowlers are having!!! It could conceivably come down to Rudolph on Monday!

All my studs are duds this week again! Damn, Gorden decided to show up and Green finally showed whats he's supposed to do every week! Hope Julio Jone does the same for me this season. :)

I've never had so many slots in single digits! I should redraft a new team lol, funny My wire pickups did best, Dak and Hogan and I was putting duke in for hyde when it timed out, not the lions D so much. :D

Well off to casino, if anyone wants to deal players you'll have to pm me as I don't think I'll be on the board for a few days. Unless I lose all my money tonight! :D :D

Gonna need an epic game out of Kyle Rudolph to pull out the 30+ point comeback victory tonight...

Not looking good these two look horrible. There is a serious lack of good dependable tight ends this year. Shit I grabbed one to throw in flex but missed the swap window and he got hurt anyway! I didn't know cutler was out till last second. I still would have lost, :)

Added: W00t Rudolph sighting in the end zone about 2 more to go.  Good thing they took Bradford out!

@IT8877, Damn great grab on  Doug Martin! I had him as my first waiver pick but seeing how crabtree did without Carr I just had to get him back first! I regret that mistake now. :)


So no-one's gonna gamble on AP? Speaking of gaMBLING, LOST MY SHIRT YESTERDAY. doh

Capslock again gotta figure out how to disable in on this laptop.

W0w JW, not sure if you forgot to put Thomas back in and bench Tate but it sure worked out!!!

Holy shit rogers going down for the season has screwed me and Techmo over good!

No, I reshuffled because I needed to pick up new QB since Wilson is on bye, so I set my receivers up by who had most points so far this season I think.

Thats funny cause Thomas only has less because he had a bye week. Lol

Shit I shouldn't be pointing this shit out your 0wning us all! :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMRhjSbUEAACYJ2.jpg

Brutal week.  Just brutal. 

Congrats Hueristic on the win.

Anyone know what the tie breaker is for playoff entry if two people are tied for worst record? Person with more total points goes to playoffs?

According to the League Settings page, it's Total Points.

PLAYOFF BRACKET SETUP

Playoff Seeding Tie Breaker   Total Points For

Thanks. I just noticed two teams tied at 2-3 and thought about it, without thinking to go check where I probably could have found it quicker than posting here :)

@lt8877 Smart pickup on  Demaryius, I assume you had Dak as a first choice? I was deciding whether I needed Dak or  Demaryius first. Funny how injuries are changing these teams I never expected Denver to lose all receivers so cut Dearious and grabbed all GB WR and RB and Rogers goes down lol.

BTW If Rogers Hadn't gone down it would have been a really tight match, I really needed this win! Last place sucks! :D

I think the only guys left on my team I drafted Are the three that I cannot cut. Lol

Yes, last place sucks and my 2 week slide did NOT help!  :D  You and me this weekend for the bottom of the barrel.

Nice! a battle for the Bottom! Bring it on I'm all in. :)

side bet?

Haha, no thanks. I "feel" poor these days...

Phew, I said that before checking out you team! LOL

I'm poorer too after last week at the casino. DOH :D

WOW, What a game! Did you guys see that ending! holy shit My boy crabtree got the winning TD but didn't do anything else the entire game. Cooper finally woke up and put up 44 POINTS! Holy shit good thing no-one with half a brain would have played him.

Nice. Wish I had watched the game!

Dodged a bullet by not putting in "beast mode" this week... god what an idiot.  However I didn't doge the second bullet which was that crazy long 60+ yd reception Tyreek had.

Beast mode is a complete Moron!


Yeah Tyreek is seriously dangerous and techmo got Thomas before I could get him back and since all the bronco's WR's are injured he's all thats left. :eek:




They usually have replays on the nfl channel. If you don't have it then.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nflstreams/

Yeah, if you guys don't pay for cable definitely try to stream NFL Redzone... you won't need to lift a finger to change a channel ever, it's amazing. #Murrica

2True, afa Redzone you really want to make sure you the Hanson feed. I have had nothing but fiber for isp and no tv for 20 years or more and it really pisses me off when I have to watch commercials. Lol

Yeah, its weird having silence for a few minutes during commercials. But 99.9% of the time I do not miss commercials AT ALL. lol.

I was actually talking about leaving behind TV completely, I download all my TV shows and they all have the commercials edited out. I'ts great seeing a show in 40 minutes instead of an hour. Amazing how much time you have without commercials! :D

Oh for sure, me too. Newsgroups FTW. I haven't watched live tv (besides streaming games) in my place for many many years. But when I visit someone or stay at a hotel and watch live tv with commercials it is torture. I've been running an HTPC to a large screen tv for a long time now.

Anyway, go 'Stros!

Anyone except those fucking Yankees! :D

Added: Hah Just noticed we are playing for the gutter bowl this week! Damn 2 weeks straight trying to get out of last place for me! :)

Yes and I've been hand wringing about it, hahaha. Been in a slump for too long (both my FF teams...) after a pretty good start to the season. Thought about changing some players this morning but decided to just hodl (story of my monero life, lol)

Haha, me too!!! Our benches are doing better than our players! shit I dropped my D and grabbed saints figuring they would eat up second string QB for GB as he sucked last year and boy was I wrong! also really thought AP would continue to kick butt with Arizona's line (remember it was designed for David Johnson) but wrong again! I bet hogan will put up 30 points on my bench. :)

Luckily for me Brees is getting owned and Howard got vultured by his QB. this is gonna be close!


ADDED:

HAHAHA, as soon as I posted this Brees marches up the field in 3 plays and Scores! I need to learn to shutup! :P

Whew, so glad he came back around after those 2 first quarter interceptions. He was one of the players I was going to replace but not many good QB's left. (And why does The Smelly Man have the top 2 QBs!?! lol sneaky.)

That’s The Smelly Gentleman to you...
https://i.redd.it/ogqwjur0bdmy.png

And lol, yeah I’m basically holding him hostage... Trades are welcome regarding any of my QB’s if the price (player) is right... *cough cough* Hueristic *cough*

I'm not trying to get them out of spite! Damn Autodraft boned me on QB (not to mention Murry and demarios.. w00ps mentioned it :)) so I'm gonna stream QB's and do better off the wire if it kills me! :D
Funny thing is the Qb's I've streamed have all done well. Lol

We have a great match going Carl! Zeke saved my chances! Otherwise I was screwed.

Ouch, not looking good for me. Why wasn't Zeke suspended again?? lol

Cause Jerry Jones owns all the Judges! He is god in texas. Gonna be a damn close one thats for sure, Dez nullified alot of my dak points. :)

The Pats D is actually playing today for some weird reason neither freeman nor Jones is able to anything.

Battle of the tight ends tonight. Mine needs to get 30 more points than yours. That's all.  :'(

Well I think mines do for a flop night only had 2 catches last week. Vernon davis is in so Reed better make a TD on each target! Luckily for me I can't get Neg points right now! :)

It was nice to see Julio finally score this year! I have no clue what todo with AP?

JW, just a reminder to set your lineup. Glad I'm not facing Gurley this week! :)

Thanks Hueristic, I didn't even click on this thread, but I saw it popup on my unread list and I was like, "Fuck, I need to set my lineup!" :D

Finally switched it up a bit and picked up a couple Iggles, go Birds!

Yeah. them eagles been putting up some high powered gains! I've super happy with Zach and I think Techmo grabbed Wentz. I had Alshon earlier (think I drafted him) but they were off to a slow start and I dropped him for Cobbs then rogers got wacked. Lol These injuries are what makes this game so interesting, between that and juggling buy weeks it's tough to keep a good team each week. On a ten team league it's a real chore!

In unrelated news, look at what this idiot changed his Monero Classic ERC token into:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2321379.new#new

This makes my head hurt

Lol, Crackle Boy's on Crack alright! Well at least he dropped trying to scam on the Monero name.

Yay back over .015, damn off topic even more! :P

Great job JW, I would have picked nelson agholor over Ashlon but you got it right, And DAMN, The Eagles D was another perfect choice! :) AFA playing Crowell, Really I would not even pick him up from the waiver wire and Boom he smoked me! Getting him to put up his best game of the year was a stroke of Genies! You must have bribed him! ;P

Next time I guarantee I'm not going to remind you to do your lineup and kill me! LOL :D

I on the other hand Didn't put Deshaun Watson back in (32.8 points on my bench) and Played Dak (7 points!) thinking The seagulls would eat that rookie up at home and shit was I wrong! I even picked up the Seattle's D because of this and payed dearly with both of those decisions. I still can't believe this rookie came in and took a horrible Houston team and has been running roughshod since stepping in. I can pretty much guarantee when I put him in next week against the worst D (colts are like on of the 3 worst) that he will get owned. Lol

But I'm still happy I'm out of last place and thats my main goal this year. Lol

Yeah well looks like I'm locking down last place against you guys :-\. My other team in the other league is doing pretty well but it had a $75 entry fee. So what I'll do is assume I will win that league (haha) and buy 10 XMR's with my presumed winnings (!). What I'm really saying is I'd rather win moneros than cash, natch.  ;D

GL with that other league, I'm sure I'll be back tied for last and we will have another gutter bowl game! :)

at least that shitty ESPN site finally let me cut that shitstain Murray! Getting stuck with him kept a spot locked on my bench until now.

@Carl

I was looking at the standings and noticed something again, meant to mention last week but forgot.

You have the Second most Points and are only 13 behind the leader (MoneroBux), not only that but you have also had the most points put up against you by a huge margin (like 200 averaged! | Techmo with monerobux a close second have had the least) So you have been getting really unlucky to the extreme. Hopefully that will even out as the season goes on so it just shows your playing the right guys but the opposing teams are just having great and probably unsustainable weeks against you.


http://games.espn.com/ffl/standings?leagueId=92631&seasonId=2017

Thanks Hueristic!

Edit spelling of your name!

Unbelievable! My QB is out for the season from practice! Shit. Lol

JW this is your weekly reminder. :P


NP man, wish you luck this week. :)

BTW, Bye weeks Suck! :D

Thanks Hueristic  ;)

Thanks Hueristic  >:(

ROTFLMFAO! Ohh you got me on that one!

Suck me sideways! Check out my 5 game slide  :o  At least I have a bye week to lick my wounds  :P

Yeah you've had some tough breaks and whats even worse it the two top teams are playing each other this week when they both are riddled with Bye's! So no-on can catch up to them!!! WTF!

Looks like a good game shaping up JW...should be interesting with having to replace the bye week players, plus dumbass Mike Evans getting himself suspended.

Remembered to update squad before I even saw this post :) Think I could have had Carson Wentz a few weeks ago when Wilson was on bye, but didn't want to be a homer and pick too many Eagles  :-\

This is definitely going to be a fun matchup to watch but it was the best chance for any of us to give you guys a loss! And W0w you remembered this early! you'll be changing guys too many times now and screw yourself! :P

AFA Wentz, yeah I was going to grab him too but decided to keep Dak as my backup for Watson and Boom Watson gets season ending in practice and Wentz goes nuts while dak put up 9! LOL W00ps again. :)


JUST noticed this!

Yup, we got a few similarities! :D

Let the battle of 4th place commence!

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/funny-gif-old-man-fight.gif

Outta My Mind Commited Retard        The Smelly Gentleman
Hueristic                            floam412
Record: 3-4-0    Streak: L1          Record: 3-4-0    Streak: L1
Standing: T-3rd (2 GB)               Standing: T-3rd (2 GB)

Man, which dumbass was it that decided we shouldn't do a side bet for who has most total points at the end of the season?  :P

HAHAHa right! Set ur lineup?


Shit, wasn't even close my team has a real crappy manager!
AP screwed me again. :)

Dammit! I was traveling and my phone broke so couldn't make any changes to lineup. I would've played Antonio Brown, of course. There went 42 points!  >:(

Unbelievable, you have had the worst luck but on the bright side my team will be tied with you again soon! :D

Cool. We all float down here in the sewer. You'll float, too.  :P

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Happy Thanksgiving y’all. Jackpot looking to be worth $1K soon™?

Happy turkey day, Me and Carl in the gutter bowl this week. Had to drop half my team last week and most of the guys I have are questionable or out. DOH, I think i'm just gonna throw darts at a board from now on. :D

http://scoreboredsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/turkeyball.png

Yes, Happy Thanksgiving! I look forward to extending my winning streak of one game, Hueristic.

Football is a game that unite everyone globally,hope this will become an outstanding project,would like to know the team,behind this project.

lol fuck off post spammer

ROTFLMFAO! Gonna report this one. :)

Well done, Hueristic! You crushed me. But as monero owners, aren't we all winners?  ;D

Thanks man, I think I have 2 guys left I drafted and one's my kicker. This has been a brutal season for both of us. And Holy Mackerel! Julio has been a huge anchor around my neck all year and he finally came through! I almost benched him. Lol

I think I may have put up the most points of any team this season this week. And Monero holders are certainly winners!!!

Damn, I didn’t realize this was the last week before play offs! Going to be interesting to see who makes the playoffs if Jwinterm beats Hueristic this week.

He will. :)

I think We can all agree we're glad we didn't play Techmo this week! :D

Sucked to see my iggles fumble away a chance at victory last night, but some small comfort that my qb this week was Russell Wilson who was kicking eagle ass and chewing bubblegum, and I think he was all out of bubblegum...

Yeah, they are really ready for post season. It's really tough to play in Seattle, even though I thought Philly was gonna chew them up, shows what I know. And I hope Ertz is gonna be OK, had a feeling I should have played Walker. :)

Welcome to the playoffs everyone except Carl :/

Crazy that the 5 XMR pot is now $1200 or so. May the best man luckiest bastard win it all.

I hate you, that is all. :P

http://static.adweek.com/adweek.com-prod/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/bud-light-pit-of-misery-hed-2017.jpg

Going nuts trying to figure out who to play to even have a chance! Maybe god will strike bell and gurly down with lightning bolts. :)

DAMMIT!!! JW remembered to change his roster, it was brutal before but impossible now! :D

Hey, lets have some fun. Lets see who can pick the best lineup from my team. I have already spent hours on it so I know who's playing really my only change right now will probally be Marvin Jones for anderson if staford plays and Ertz and delany swap depending on questionable status. half my guys are questionable. Lol

http://games.espn.com/ffl/clubhouse?leagueId=92631&teamId=5&seasonId=2017

Shit! I was so torn over playing Adams and Anderson that I almost benched julio and played them both. I must have swapped those two three times. I would have had a good chance if I had picked the right one. Or benched that goddamn Anchor around my neck Julio! :)

GG lt8877... unless da 🐐 goes full on 🐐 to give the 🐐 fantasy football comeback in the history of fantasy football.



🐐

I fear it may be a pyrrhic victory this week...looks like Wentz is done for.

Also, it's a 2 week playoff, so the tables could definitely turn next week.

This is so ugly it makes me wanna puke. 1511.2 Against!!! :)

And Carl just got slambasted with 1523 against! EEK

Man, I was getting a bit nervous yesterday but Le'Veon Bell came through like a boss.

Yeah, I had a glimmer of hope because the ravens defense has been able to keep him in check in the past but 2 TD's in the 1st quarter I and I knew all hope was lost. :) I also though the stealers D would do good at home and who would of guessed the Ravens had thier best game of the year agaibst them! Doh
And Mcown braking his hand really hurt me as well, if I had played adams then it could have been a good match and now I find out hogan is going to play tonight after I played all my WR and was counting on burkhead to get a huge load because Lewis was sick as well but  suddenly he's fine and hogan and dion will be getting the workload he would have had...jeesh. :)

Yeah, man. We really brought out everyone's A game against our teams!

Good luck to all in the playoffs. That juicy 5 XMR prize looks nice these days. (I won my other league but it gets split with 2nd place and there is a playoff where I could win a little more $$$ so don't feel too bad for me  :P)

Shit.. I didn’t realize this was a match up that lasted two weeks...

I need a miracle here Jack Doyle.

C’mon man... I need a Goat bomb to Gronkasaurus for a 70 yard TD and a 70 yard field goal by Gould-bro.

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🐐 🐐 🐐

Congrats!


Me neither lol, not that it would matter!!!  I havn't even looked at the score for my match I don't wanna ruin my day. :)

What a game between lt8877 and I... holy cow, came down to the kicker.

Anyways, congrats to jwin and lt. May the best manero win. :)

Yeah, what a squeaker! It's you and me Phis for 3rd and 4th.

GL you guys. :)

Ho lee fuk Todd Gurley  :o

He's a Godamn 1 man wrecking crew this year! Bell as well!

Thats Why PPR sucks balls.

Me and Phis have a good game going I benched Julio cause I can't take that dickhead anymore and he finally has his second good game! Doh :D

Who woulda thought “team autodraft” would kick all our asses... make this a lesson to all of us n00bs, don’t lovingly craft your perfect team by researching players before the draft. Just say f*ck it, have Hueristic to remind you to set up your line ups, sit back and profit. Absolutely god damn brilliant.

 :D :D Hilarious and true!  :'( ;D (so many emotions  :P) It was a fun season, monerodudes!

Ouch, already lost and Tecmo Bowlers STILL has 3 players left to play. No bueno.

Yeah it was! I had a great time fighting for the gutter bowl!


HUH?
{OK looks like this is a bot} Reported.

looked at the messages and I can not understand you then the game, or the crypt in the game, or drop associated with football, love football, and the crypt, thought combined the 2 threads

And what looks like a Russian account run by a bot or trying to use google translate? It cannot quote correctly in another thread. Weird

The Russians only want to hack/interfere with the more prominent, fundamental parts to our US democracy. US elections, social media, and now what looks like to be them going after the heart and soul of America, (Monero) fantasy football!?!? Soviet bastards..

It's the first shot over the bow on the New cold war on F.Football! Is there nothing sacred left! :D

Hey, I streamed almost my whole team last week. Not bad right! Stupid crabtree was one I drafted and he gave me ZERO! :)
I've streamed like 3/4 of my team all season, without that I think I would have come in dead last by a massive margin. Can you see now why I was adamant about not playing PPR? I didn't even notice till the second week we were playing PPR. It's a hidden choice on ESPN. Next year were do Yahoo Standard.

Hey What are your guys thoughts on Starting a Yahoo Dynasty League this year to start playing next year? That sound like a ton of fun!

Yeah, I agree... I use yahoo for my IRL fantasy league and selfishly wanted to use ESPN as a way to keep my different leagues seperate. Sorry, next year we are most certainly using yahoo.

What’s a “dynasty league”? Never heard of it.

Also just a heads up for everyone, I’m planning on doing Monero Madness like I did last year. Any one interested in such shenanigans?

Dynasty league is where you keep players for next year and continue to draft each year. I have never tried one yet. AFA M. Madness I know absolutely Zero about Basketball. Sorry. :(

No Le'Veon no Gurley, maybe tecmo bowlers can make the miracle comeback this well.

I'm down for March madness now.

I for one would like to applaud JW for getting his team squared away and ready so far in advance! :P

You don't need to know anything to do the March Madness brackets. Just blindly pick a few upsets. Count me in when the time comes but I wonder if it will be 1 monero  :o again?

I would rather start with clean slates, so no Dynasty League. And yeah, use Yahoo for fantasy football next year!

Well that was a great match you guys! Came right down to the Last hail MAry!

Good match Phish as well. :)

This is true Hueristic, usually the less you know the better. But if you’re not interested that’s perfectly fine as well... I just like to have money on it to make it more interesting if I’m at a bar watching the madness.

Any who, yes I’d prefer not to do dynasty for multiple reasons, but the main one being that if there are more people who would like to play, you can’t really have them join the league unless they accept the fate of having Dickbreath Jones as their first round pick while we have all the better players.

Congrats Team Monerobux/Jwinterm/Team Autodraft! See all you fuckers next year :)

https://i.imgur.com/fbd4HMI.png

Photographic evidence for the historical record :D 

Thanks much to Hueristic for the badgering to get my lineup set, and thanks to all for playing. Will be happy to play March Monero Madness, or any other sports related betting pool (but no golf, or nascar, or sumo wrestling or anything).

🎆🎆🎆 Happy new year! 🎆🎆🎆

Congratulations, jwinterm, I thought I might be able to pull off the comeback, but Gurley and Bell Week 16 was just too much to overcome.  Although if I had played Smith-Schuster over Evans, I could have won it!  Oh well...

Regarding league choices for next season...I would agree no dynasty.  I enjoyed the PPR/17-week ESPN format, as my other leagues this year were all standard Yahoo leagues, so it was nice variety. 

I'm not a basketball fan either, but will check back for Monero March Madness.  Until then, thanks guys (I assume we're all guys here) for a fun season and an enjoyable Monero experience!

lt8877

Even with only 5 of us it was great fun! Happy New year all and I look forward to next year. :)

Unless it's PPR :P

Hey everyone! Me again...

I decided I didn't want to wait any more to lose some more of my Monerojes.  So I created a "pool" for the Super Bowl if anyone would like to join.  More details in the OP in this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2808377.msg28723746#msg28723746) thread.

Dilly dilly.. \o