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[2012-07-17 05:52:28] <zab_> pirateat40: you got your reaction, you're awesome, now fix your miss please
[2012-07-17 05:52:45] <gribble> Best bid: 8.2808, Best ask: 8.28131, Bid-ask spread: 0.00051, Last trade: 8.28132, 24 hour volume: 197968, 24 hour low: 7.6, 24 hour high: 9.49
[2012-07-17 05:53:17] <NxTitle> if everyone continues to buy, pirate will eventually run out of money
[2012-07-17 05:53:34] <pirateat40> Yes, Everyone BUY
[2012-07-17 05:53:39] <pirateat40> EVERYONE
[2012-07-17 05:53:43] <NxTitle> pirateat40: lol?
[2012-07-17 05:53:45] <pirateat40> GO!, NOW
[2012-07-17 05:54:01] <pirateat40> The more you buy the more I make.
 
[2012-07-17 05:54:07] <NxTitle> pirateat40: tell me to sell :(
[2012-07-17 05:54:10] <pirateat40> NxTitle, is just helping me.
[2012-07-17 05:54:13] <zab_> pirateat40: don't do this... don't destroy what you've created
[2012-07-17 05:54:14] <NxTitle> lol
[2012-07-17 05:54:18] <dub> did I pump when it was time to dump?
[2012-07-17 05:54:40] <gribble> Best bid: 8.35999, Best ask: 8.36, Bid-ask spread: 9.99999999962e-06, Last trade: 8.36, 24 hour volume: 198123, 24 hour low: 7.6, 24 hour high: 9.49
[2012-07-17 05:54:43] <Blitzboom> dump and pump scheme
[2012-07-17 05:54:59] <adaqmstgBit> pirateat40 what price would you like us to support?
[2012-07-17 05:55:53] <pirateat40> zab_, this is the first time ive ever played the market.  It was simply a statement, I don't plan on making it part of my process.  It's simply a warning.
[2012-07-17 05:56:07] <Hexadecibel> Ooo pirate is scary
 
[2012-07-17 05:58:54] <Diablo-D3> !ticker
[2012-07-17 05:58:55] <gribble> Best bid: 8.26102, Best ask: 8.37498, Bid-ask spread: 0.11396, Last trade: 8.37499, 24 hour volume: 198583, 24 hour low: 7.6, 24 hour high: 9.49
[2012-07-17 05:59:33] <NxTitle> pirateat40: how much longer do I have to wait for a gpumax account?
[2012-07-17 05:59:54] <SysErr0r> pirateat40: when will my BFL single arrive?
 
[2012-07-17 06:00:56] <pirateat40> adaqmstgBit, 33% is right.
[2012-07-17 06:01:26] <adaqmstgBit> so 66% of the coins are our own?
 
[2012-07-17 06:02:38] <MC1984> how the dicks has it bounced between 7 and 9
[2012-07-17 06:03:26] <EmanuelDeOrtego> pirate
[2012-07-17 06:03:34] <pirateat40> yes
[2012-07-17 06:03:40] <NxTitle> why
[2012-07-17 06:03:41] <biteylerk> Also he doesn't pass the profit to the incestors - he keeps it for himself. He's a pirate, damn it! Arrr!
[2012-07-17 06:04:12] <Chaaang-Noi> he is the caption of the pirate ship BTCST :)
 
[2012-07-17 06:04:55] <Xian01> pirateat40, sorry for the off-topic, but I applied for a gpumax account >30 days ago. Are you that backlogged ?
[2012-07-17 06:04:13] <opticbit> can we expect more than 7% in our accounts next monday?
[2012-07-17 06:05:31] <pirateat40> opticbit, as long as I hold your coins.. you'll be paid.
 
[2012-07-17 06:10:51] <Hexadecibel> seriously though, I really, really wish pirate the best. It's been this long, people have had this much warning. You only have yourselves to blame when he runs with your money
[2012-07-17 06:10:57] <Hexadecibel> and he'll deserve every penny
 
[2012-07-17 06:29:31] <wogaut> ok, later!
[2012-07-17 06:34:59] <Xian01> maybe someone should update the topic ;) "Yes, the forums are down. It's not just you"
 
[2012-07-17 06:36:05] <EmanuelDeOrtego> Pireat40, my firm just got me some Mt. Gox dollars in my account.
[2012-07-17 06:36:07] <pirateat40> Last warning....
[2012-07-17 06:36:13] <EmanuelDeOrtego> Continue this selling and I'll buy it up to $10.
[2012-07-17 06:36:17] <EmanuelDeOrtego> Right now.
[2012-07-17 06:36:19] <Gladamas> ;;ticker
[2012-07-17 06:36:20] <gribble> Best bid: 8.08987, Best ask: 8.08988, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000000014e-05, Last trade: 8.08989, 24 hour volume: 203928, 24 hour low: 7.6, 24 hour high: 9.49
[2012-07-17 06:36:28] <Hexadecibel> warning for what?
[2012-07-17 06:36:31] <pirateat40> Sell everything
[2012-07-17 06:36:35] <Hexadecibel> meh
[2012-07-17 06:36:38] <dub> im buying
[2012-07-17 06:36:40] <Hexadecibel> bring to 1
[2012-07-17 06:36:40] <adamstgBit> wait what> "last warning" ??/
[2012-07-17 06:36:50] <EmanuelDeOrtego> He's bluffing guys.
[2012-07-17 06:36:55] <EmanuelDeOrtego> Just buy it all out before I do.
[2012-07-17 06:37:01] <dub> buy high sell low
 
[2012-07-17 06:37:53] <NxTitle> 05:36 < EmanuelDeOrtego> He's bluffing guys.
[2012-07-17 06:37:53] <NxTitle> 05:36 < EmanuelDeOrtego> Just buy it all out before I do.
[2012-07-17 06:38:21] <adamstgBit> lol this is crazy

Jul 24 05:08:52 <dub>   mircea_popescu: it was in #bitcoin that manipulation shit went down, fuck looking for it
Jul 24 05:15:36 <dub>   mircea_popescu: some of that loss would be during that event though
Jul 24 05:16:07 <dub>   he was raging about the rally, telling people to stop buying or he would fuck the market up
Jul 24 05:16:11 <mircea_popescu>   yeah
Jul 24 05:16:34 <dub>   then sold massively and didnt make a dent in the rally
Jul 24 05:16:35 <mircea_popescu>   kinda ridiculous if you think about it.

I would say that on the balance of evidence available, MtGox is more likely to be a scam than a legitimate operation at this point. The trifecta of tight lipped yet deceitful reps ; soft as opposed to hard liabilities coupled with a tendency towards further softening and arbitrary, case-by-case handling of accounts showing extreme sensitivity to public exposure is present and that's enough for my needs.

At this point I would advise anyone against keeping any sums on MtGox overnight, fiat or BTC. Their reaction will probably be to make transfers even slower, in an attempt to discourage capital flight. Take a moment and think things through : if your reason for keeping capital on MtGox is that you don't want to wait for their excessive transfer delays, isn't this in and of itself proof that you really shouldn't be there at all ?

Some months later and this is the situation:

- MtGox declared a "withdraw freeze" and nobody could make withdraw requests for two weeks.
- A lot of people report big withdraws made before this freeze still have not come through.
- People have now been waiting 2 months for USD withdraws and 1-3 months for EUR withdraws.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.540

You were spot on ahead of your time.

Nefario: You are obviously unqualified to be anywhere near a project of the complexity of an exchange, even for play money (which I suspect BTC are, for most of you here, at least judging on behavior records). I will make you precisely one offer to buy the thing from you, so you get to actually make some money for all your effort over the past year, as misguided and mismanaged as it may have been, rather than have to walk away from a worthless wreck (like Zou Thong/Amir&co have with Bitcoinica). If you have half the maturity you should have to be involved in all this you will take this offer seriously, and consider your options carefully. Feel free to make contact via pm or in #bitcoin-otc-eu.

Furthermore, while it is true that Bitcoin may be regarded as an item of value by one or more people, this also is true of the in-game currency of each and every single one game ever released to this date and to be released for the conceivable future. Ruling that indeed Bitcoin constitutes in itself either money or capital in the sense of the Securities Act of 1933 would both retroactively expose all game developers and game players to extensive and burdensome reporting and compliance requirements as well as burden the SEC with an enormous task. Further, it would severely limit and curtail the ability of future game developers to bring computer games to the general public. In either case such extensive re-writing of existing and well understood law can not be the empire of the court system, and unless or until such a time as Congress introduces legislation specifically rendering online in-game currencies legal tender, or otherwise money, or capital this matter can only be laid to rest.

Just in time for tax day (April 15 in the United States), the Internal Revenue Service has issued six pages of guidelines (PDF) detailing how it considers the legality of Bitcoin and other “virtual currencies.”

Specifically, the document, which was published on Tuesday, designates that Bitcoin will be treated for tax purposes as a property and not as a currency.

May 29 16:03:14 <pigeons>   I just got a solicitation from Matthew N. Wright for a conference he is organizing in Amsterdam.
May 29 16:03:26 <pigeons>   damn mircea_popescu you are right about these conference organizer people
May 29 16:03:54 <mircea_popescu>   eh ?
May 29 16:04:20 <pigeons>   bruce wagner had a conference, we had the intersangro one with nefario, the last one was sponsered by vessenes and now matthew n wright
May 29 16:04:37 <mircea_popescu>   lol
May 29 16:04:41 <mircea_popescu>   you know i also had one.
May 29 16:04:54 <pigeons>   lol
May 29 16:05:29 <mircea_popescu>   mine however was ciuuuuuulll
May 29 16:05:34 <mircea_popescu>   cause it wasn't in schiuuuuullll

*snipped arrogance*
http://chinezu.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gizeh_pyramids.jpg

*snipped arrogance*

That would make MPOE-PR my goddess.

Our god needs a better taylor. Why you are wearing your grand fathers, clothez? LOL  ;D

I. The 100 dollar miracle.

On April 3rd, MP says BTC is not worth over 100, and tells people to stop buying (http://trilema.com/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/).

should we also post a list of things where you were wrong (like AM, for instance?)

1. Why did MP tell people to stop buying at 100 when the price was about to reach 266? Gods are supposed to be all-knowing...

2. Did MP tell people to sell at 266?

Hey, talk enough BS and eventually you will have a list of situations where you guessed correctly. You see a lot of the same in the world of trading.

All I see here is a thread where OP asks for ass-kissing

There's a reason why the ignore button is bright orange

This will be my last reply here, I feel bad enough for bumping this thread once

Do you get payed extra to post this thread?

You may be too stupid to understand [...]

I just asked two questions. Be a dear and answer them. If you do not know the answers to my questions, simply have the courage to admit you'll fail to answer them. If you fail to answer the questions I will not call you stupid.

Your questions are broken, in that they make mistaken assumptions about the world which renders them unanswerable. That you don't realize this is what makes you stupid. It's not a matter of me calling you so, it's a matter of you being so.

Consider a group of 10,000 investment managers whose investment success is comparable to that of a fair coin toss. Each manager has a 50-50 chance of making or losing 10% in any year.  At the end of each year the losing managers are thrown out of the game.

After the first year 5,000 managers have made money and the rest have bailed out.  After seven years there will still be 78 managers who have made money continuously, purely on the basis of random chance. Their portfolios are up a total of almost 95% after 7 years.  If these folks then go off and start their own hedge funds, there’s no way to know that their apparent genius was merely luck, and they’ll probably attract a lot of investors.

Now suppose that instead of giving the managers an even chance of making or losing money, we start with a pool of 10,000 relatively incompetent managers. These individuals are more likely to lose money than to make it: they each have a 45% chance of making a profit and a 55% chance of losing money.  At the end there are still 37 fund managers who have made 10% a year for seven years. Even though this group is more likely to lose money than to make it, a few will still run up impressive gains and develop reputations as hot managers.

This demonstrates that if there are lots of fund managers, a certain number of them can look like geniuses when in fact they are merely “lucky,” even if, in reality, they’re moderately incompetent! As Taleb notes, knowing that a manager has an extraordinary investment track records doesn’t tell you anything: “without knowing how many managers out there have tried and failed, we will not be able to assess the validity of the track record.” If the manager population were small, a good track record would be impressive.  But in fact, if you count all the money managers in the U.S. alone, 10,000 underestimates the reality.

Our god needs a better taylor. Why you are wearing your grand fathers, clothez? LOL  ;D

Something to keep in mind whenever someone bring up past prediction performance is that distinguishing between luck and skill is very difficult.

I see MP more as a King than a God.

Is MP the guy on the donkey, dressed in a cheap suit by Walmart?

LOL, look at him, just look at him! LOOK!

http://s22.postimg.org/m7awnz1up/Untitled_1.png

He is contemplating his divine powers  ;D

Something to keep in mind whenever someone bring up past prediction performance is that distinguishing between luck and skill is very difficult.

http://www.ffscambridge.com/blog/post/taleb_on_distinguishing_between_investing_skill_and_random_chance

I see MP more as a King than a God.

I probably won't get a straight answer out of you, but since you didn't care to respond in the other thread here it is again:

So you probably guessed it, what was MPEXs role in the Satoshi Dice Insider trading (how big was you cut)?
Uh yeah you probably ignore it again, or insult me. Either way, be ensured people like me won't forget about it.

If it can only be an insult go ahead, but ignoring it makes you look guilty not only in my eyes but also in the eyes of those potentially using your service,...

Is MP the guy on the donkey, dressed in a cheap suit by Walmart?

LOL, look at him, just look at him! LOOK!

Do heavy squats son, then you might have a chance with that face of yours.

Conclusion: I'm new here. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about but can't really control the compulsion to yak anyway. So what if I make a fool of myself/show everyone just how retarded I am? Everyone knows it anyway in my social circle, what difference could adding the whole Internet possibly make.

King of the btc trolls

the only thing that is god is my cock  - bow down to my cock ok.

Pretty disappointed with the first photoshoped submissions.
Was hoping for stuff involving tentacles, young women and religious material.

Who are you?


Why do you exploit the mindlessness of the mindless masses for your own amusement? Are you aspiring to divinity?

Are you aspiring to divinity?

Why do you exploit the mindlessness of the mindless masses for your own amusement? Are you aspiring to divinity?

I don't happen to know what other thread you're talking about, it's always a good idea to link your references.

That aside, I have no idea what you're on about. What insider trading? Be specific. Include details. As a subpoint: why do you imagine I'd give two shits or comment on some graph you've taken off the premier scam exchange (http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/) currently active? Pick something with some credibility.

Out of curiosity, what miracles would one need to perform to qualify (according to your standards) for aspiring to divinity?

Very spot-on, disturbing question.
Yes. Was the first thing to spring in my mind.
But then I realised I got the worst day ever incoming at work, tomorrow, and just could use a good laugh before going to bed.

And remember this might help keep your godness on top for quite some time, before you become the god of "Off Topic".  :)

You're not in the books. Too stupid.

ok then then how did the price get lifted to the level it was sold for prior to the deal, did the "scam exchange" trade any stock or not?

Please post the pictures of this playboy along with "all his womenz"

Aug 11 16:21:54 <Diablo-D3>   mircea_popescu: okay
Aug 11 16:21:57 <Diablo-D3>   I want your honest opinion
Aug 11 16:22:00 <mircea_popescu>   anyway, here
Aug 11 16:22:04 <mircea_popescu>   's what reddit is for : "What's the rudest or meanest thing a stranger has said to you that still bothers you today?"
Aug 11 16:22:08 <Diablo-D3>   I have no money
Aug 11 16:22:13 <Diablo-D3>   I have no useful skills
Aug 11 16:22:26 <Diablo-D3>   I can cook manly foods
Aug 11 16:22:36 <Diablo-D3>   I have a 7 inch dick.
Aug 11 16:22:48 <pankkake>   are you asking if you should become a tranny?
Aug 11 16:22:58 *   daybyter has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
Aug 11 16:23:01 <Diablo-D3>   mircea_popescu: do I have any chance of getting a sex slave based on these facts?
Aug 11 16:23:07 <mircea_popescu>   nope.
Aug 11 16:23:16 <mircea_popescu>   how old are you ?
Aug 11 16:23:22 <Diablo-D3>   in a few months 30.
Aug 11 16:23:32 <mircea_popescu>   a, well, that's to be expected then.
Aug 11 16:23:48 <mircea_popescu>   what you do is you go find yourself a mistress. preferably one you enjoy taking it from.
Aug 11 16:24:06 <Diablo-D3>   mircea_popescu: yeah, see, thats not really my thing.
Aug 11 16:24:07 <mircea_popescu>   by the time you're 40 you'll likely have skills and a decent shot of getting a sex slave if you're still so inclined.
Aug 11 16:24:13 <pankkake>   I stupidly let go a girl that had the potential to become my/a sex slave :(
Aug 11 16:24:22 <mircea_popescu>   the reason you don't stand a chance it's specifically because you misrepresent what "things" are.
Aug 11 16:24:45 <mircea_popescu>   pankkake perhaps not so stupidly. if you dunno what you're doing you'll just badly huirt both of you.
Aug 11 16:27:51 <assbot>   [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 15 @ 0.0010469 = 0.0157 BTC [-]
Aug 11 16:28:40 <Diablo-D3>   mircea_popescu: I mean, having an actual wife, it just doesnt seem worth the trouble
Aug 11 16:28:59 <dexX7>   http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/prostitextuarea-1.jpg wtf
Aug 11 16:29:08 <mircea_popescu>   Diablo-D3 wife ? what wife.
Aug 11 16:29:15 <pankkake>   I was certainly naïve and inexperienced at the time
Aug 11 16:29:27 <pankkake>   mircea_popescu: having a wife instead of a sex slave
Aug 11 16:29:31 <mircea_popescu>   just think about it : the chick that'll eventually be your sex slave ALSO probably thinks "that's not really her thing" currently.
Aug 11 16:30:23 <assbot>   [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00081953 = 1.8849 BTC [-]
Aug 11 16:31:18 <pankkake>   certainly
Aug 11 16:31:28 *   CheckDavid has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
Aug 11 16:31:39 <pankkake>   but most women I meet will never be
Aug 11 16:31:59 <mircea_popescu>   pankkake that was directed at him :p
Aug 11 16:32:23 <assbot>   [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00104689 = 0.0105 BTC [-]
Aug 11 16:32:52 <assbot>   [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 150 @ 0.001344 = 0.2016 BTC

Aug 11 16:32:53 <assbot>   [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.001345 = 1.345 BTC

Aug 11 16:32:54 <assbot>   [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.001345 = 0.269 BTC

Aug 11 16:33:01 <Diablo-D3>   mircea_popescu: what Im saying is, wives just cause problems for most men
Aug 11 16:33:03 <mircea_popescu>   also i just realised how this entire discussion is strangely ontopic, seeing how slaves are assets.

You are requested to answer the question, not to write cliches and excuses. Come on. Did MP tell people to sell at 266 or did he not? It is a matter of facts that should be within your knowledge. Failing to answer will not make you stupid; rather uninformed.

So no details, no nothing, just tendentious questions. How would I know? How would anyone know? Do you know? Why don't you know?

I mean don't get me wrong, I appreciate the implicity divinization of MP you're pulling, acting as if he's omniscient and everything, but then just say that plain rather than covering it in all this icing of humbug.

You know, the problem I have is neither MP's luck or its skill. It is its alleged divinity ;D


1. MPOE-PR wrote Why MP is your God in the thread title implying there is some sort of a god.

2. I got interested and read the thread. I hoped to find evidence of MP's divinity. Such evidence if found might indicate that the object called MP might be a god.

3. MPOE-PR wrote Bitcoin is MP's world Holly molly, she claims MP is not only a god. MP specializes in Bitcoin. Cool  8)

4. I examined MPOE-PR's claims. What I found was a call to stop buying at 100. You could expect a much more precise call from a divine object, couldn't you?

5. What could you expect from a god? You could expect buy till price reaches 250- 260. Then sell / short.


Conclusion: MP is not a god. Bitcoin is not its realm.

Did I just learnt that MP

I am just trying to provide a little substance for this otherwise boring thread. (srsly what's up with that?)

Those accusations are not mine, look over at our goony friends at buttcoin (http://buttcoin.org/satoshi-dice-sold-for-12000000-forces-all-shareholders-to-give-up-their-shares).

You all must be bored  ::)

the only thing that is god is my cock  - bow down to my cock ok.

Who are you?

+1

He's a lumberjack and he's okay...he spells all night and he works all day....


Oh, buttcoin still lives? Neat.


Well, most are really stupid, some are kinda bored, and I just work here.

Hone your humor. A hipster is known for their strong sense of irony and sarcasm. When asked a question, refuse to answer directly; instead, obfuscate, ask a question in return, or just be plain sarcastic.

Holy crap, all this time I just thought she was a raging bitch. Turns out she is following a guide, my apologies. Source:How to appear to be a raging bitch. (http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hipster)

This is your God. Bow to him.

You'll have to admit he's got one of the oldest running trading platform, that hardly ever failed while most of the other did, he called for scams with a good hit-ratio, and he appears to be quite knowledgeable in his field - I sure could not have written any of his blog entries.

He is an immoral twat, investing in things such as pr0n, PatrickHarnett or SatoshiDice, but he's still very solid and steady, even though he might use insider information / shady irc manipulation to acheive this.

I understand why he feels godly as he's been in business for longer that anyone else I'm aware of.
That's a character you'll need to bear with, I guess, as he's clearly earned his place here.

Plus he feeds all the trolls that come disrupt his trollish threads, in a pretty humorous way.  ;D


I'm still waiting for my tentacles&women, horse&religious material, and god delivery, though.

Or maybe I'll just go to bed and dream about all that.

MP also has a lot of misses, for example (s)he was apparently telling people that I (0_o) was trying to rob people with my "I taint rich!" thread.  It turns out that when you talk smack about everyone, eventually you get some hits.

I wonder if pr lady has nice feet.  If I was banking off btc abd pummeling idiots. I'd never wear shoes.  So I'm assumeing she has cute feet.  I'm just trying to find more reasons to love this woman.

And I always thought that gypsies come to Romania from India not Egypt.

I think he probably right guys...  ???
maybe his the God for Retards

Adversus Solem ne loquitor.

This is a fact: had he not sunk your stupid little idea you could have so convinced some random clueless noob. Irrespective of whether you had planned to or would have actually tried to, this is still not something you should be trusted with,

as in spite of all the pretense you're still an untrustworthy, duplicitous piece of shit.

closed clique of sycophants

Vestis virum reddit.

A fact?  You mean snipes in a private IRC channel

Case in point about slinging infinite shit and eventually getting a few hits.

But hey, if someone with a ignore throbby that has a color indicating some kind of serious urinary tract infection

who can't handle being asked to stop distributing apparent underage nudies

Apr 02 01:51:28 <mircea_popescu>   vragnaroda the entire nsfw argument is facetious. people aren't looking for a place to specifically discuss random things some subset has decided "is undecorous"
Apr 02 01:51:38 <mircea_popescu>   people enjoy the freedom to discuss whatever they feel like discussing.
Apr 02 01:51:54 <vragnaroda>   BTCHero: erry's +Vv there, not +o.
Apr 02 01:52:07 <BTCHero>   oh
Apr 02 01:52:15 <vragnaroda>   She used to be +o.
Apr 02 01:52:19 <copumpkin>   mircea_popescu: then I guess they can do it elsewhere, since the founder of the channel would prefer to take it in a different direction
Apr 02 01:52:34 <copumpkin>   and IRC is neither democracy nor anarchy, it seems
Apr 02 01:52:36 <mircea_popescu>   the founder is a sort of superservant,
Apr 02 01:52:40 <mircea_popescu>   not a sort of superowner.
Apr 02 01:52:47 <vragnaroda>   And I just removed that +Vv, too.
Apr 02 01:53:05 <terry>   gmaxwell: Also, I would rather my coworker join -foyer. That's trading! If you mention maxi pads without the intent of selling or buying one, you're out. This is OTC, we socialize, talk, and build and lose trust in eachother, sometimes we trade. It would be awfully stiff if I couldn't expect the same level of comfort in here as I would when talking with some of my friends. I'm sorry you didn't app
Apr 02 01:53:05 <terry>   reciate my joke about maxi pads, but that's all it was: a joke.
Apr 02 01:53:32 <copumpkin>   terry: what's the big deal? http://notrichyet.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/whats-the-big-deal/
Apr 02 01:53:47 <copumpkin>   (a good read if you haven't already)
Apr 02 01:53:47 <mircea_popescu>   actually... i thought foyer was for socializing.
Apr 02 01:53:58 <terry>   crap, I meant -pit
Apr 02 01:54:00 <terry>   sorry
Apr 02 01:54:02 <draco49>   That, and scams.
Apr 02 01:54:30 <ataranlen>   LOL @  #bitcoin-otc-nsfw is a danieldaniel free zone.
Apr 02 01:54:43 <mircea_popescu>   copumpkin : i read that. it fails to register as a valid argument.
Apr 02 01:54:58 <copumpkin>   mircea_popescu: he addresses that reaction in the article
Apr 02 01:55:13 <gmaxwell>   There is this great concept in social sciences called evaporative cooling, where people drive out everyone who isn't likeminded making a more and more homogeneous group. A number of people weren't happy with the direction this channel was cooling in.
Apr 02 01:55:13 <mircea_popescu>   copumpkin in thesame braindamaged way as the entire rest of the article, yes he "addresses" it.
Apr 02 01:55:29 <PaulZag>   problem is that the chat creates trust. -pit is trade only an nobody moitors it closely enough to be useful.
Apr 02 01:55:30 <mircea_popescu>   "a number" sounds rather fascist in this context
Apr 02 01:55:38 <mircea_popescu>   and i mean that literally.
Apr 02 01:55:43 *   gribble gives voice to ataranlen
Apr 02 01:55:50 <copumpkin>   mircea_popescu: if you don't like it, you can do it elsewhere, I guess, since arguing is clearly going to get you nowhere
Apr 02 01:55:56 <gmaxwell>   Turns out you can force evaporation with a little boiling too. And if that means we need to remove a few people who think that fart jokes are the pinnicle of public humor, so be it.
Apr 02 01:56:06 <mircea_popescu>   copumpkin seems that is quite reciprocable as an "argument".
Apr 02 01:56:14 <copumpkin>   that wasn't an argument on my part
Apr 02 01:56:25 <copumpkin>   I'm saying that arguing against what gmaxwell is doing is obviously pointless
Apr 02 01:56:34 <mircea_popescu>   gmaxwell you seem to think (mistakenly) that public discourse can be "shaped". others have tried. all have failed.
Apr 02 01:56:41 <terry>   ^
Apr 02 01:56:43 <gmaxwell>   ::shrugs::
Apr 02 01:56:47 *   gmaxwell sets ban on *!*Mircea@78.96.92.*
Apr 02 01:56:47 *   You have been kicked from #bitcoin-otc by gmaxwell (mircea_popescu)

Apr 08 19:44:30 <mircea_popescu>   somebody should point out to gmaxwell the freenode policy about oping yourself. since we're so high on "policies".
Apr 08 19:44:35 <Glock26>   mircea...you just said "poetry"
Apr 08 19:44:40 <mircea_popescu>   i know.
Apr 08 19:45:20 *   gheorghe (gheorghe@178.156.176.41) has joined #bitcoin-otc
Apr 08 19:45:31 <splatster>   mircea_popescu: Yes, the freenode policy says they should only OP themselves when they are doing OP actions, but they don't have to follow said policies.
Apr 08 19:45:39 <mircea_popescu>   o, really "?!
Apr 08 19:45:43 <mircea_popescu>   whoa, is it up for debate ?
Apr 08 19:45:57 <mircea_popescu>   im shocked, shocked i say to discover hypocrisy is going on here.
Apr 08 19:46:01 *   gmaxwell sets ban on *!*Mircea@78.96.92.*
Apr 08 19:46:01 *   You have been kicked from #bitcoin-otc by gmaxwell (Stop troublemaking.)

in a general commerce IRC channel

That's what I always figured. You would think one of them would know CSS, no?

Your original post is an excellent example of what I mean. You try to pass off two half truths in two lines. The first is trying to wash the dubious "oh hey, please make me look like I have control of BTC I don't have control of because for the lulz srsly".

Or what, you imagined nanotube was going to be begging your betters to tolerate your idiocy an infinite number of times?

The other's trying to imply that Gigavps stealing from everyone is somehow related to MP.

No, I don't mean snipes. And no, not a private IRC channel, just a channel where retards such as you aren't opped.

Incidentally, the reason retards like you aren't opped is because channels where naive people op retards like you go to shit. The sociological term is Gmaxwell evaporation, ie that process whereby smart people leave and you are left, with your "coworkers" or whatever you call the other retards.


Your original post is an excellent example of what I mean. You try to pass off two half truths in two lines. The first is trying to wash the dubious "oh hey, please make me look like I have control of BTC I don't have control of because for the lulz srsly". The other's trying to imply that Gigavps stealing from everyone is somehow related to MP. This is why you're universally despised: because, again, you're an untrustworthy duplicitous piece of shit. Don't let the passive politeness of the geeks (http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/) deceive you: nobody [else] is telling you this because you're not worth their time, not for any other reason.

As for the "dutifully" and "laughing", you can tell the midnightmagic (http://trilema.com/2013/in-which-we-aspersor/) muppet that any time he's ready to discuss the supreme character of nzhang he's more than welcome to show his face again. I'm half tempted to dig through the logs for some actual examples of laughable insanity, but I'll pass. Not really worth my time.


Yeah yeah, you'd like to be cool, you'd like to argue with me and all that. Sadly you don't have what it takes, go back to porking the refuse of Wikipedia or whatever it is you do with yourself.


This would be a third. Allow me to jog your memory, you untrustworthy, duplicitous piece of shit you.



Go ahead, explain how untrustworthy, duplicitous pieces of shit can't handle being called out for it. Then explain how they try and make it look like something else, anything else. Then look around and see why it fails. Or what, you imagined nanotube was going to be begging your betters to tolerate your idiocy an infinite number of times?


I still don't know what you imagine your connection with BTC commerce is. Go ahead and explain it, you carry the coffee trays/empty the ashtrays and therefore are qualified or what is it?


Every time that guy discusses "closed cliques" and "sycophants" God kills a Power
 (http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/in-re-bitcoin-devs-are-idiots.htm)

Your questions are broken, in that they make mistaken assumptions about the world which renders them unanswerable.

MPEx is now doomed without S.DICE. But I hope you already knew this.

Why MP is your God.

Wait, are you the guy who runs our EVE Online corporation 1Bitcoin?  :-\

Enjoy! :)

"Keen and incisive isn't the half of it."

I bid adieu, “for the joy’s gone out of me now, like the pee from a small boy in a swimming pool on a hot day.”

More and more beating around the bush

But just to make it clear to the kids following along at home-- the consequence of all that is you were evicted from the channel, apparently to the reasonable satisfaction of "my betters".

I love this and will have to save it to use myself.  I don't like when people ask questions with goofy invalid premise.  And not even saying that is or isn't true in this particular case...just saying it in general.

Wait, are you the guy who runs our EVE Online corporation 1Bitcoin?  :-\

Come on MP-pr, stop showing yourself as even bigger joke than you already are. MP: your PR-lady is doing a very bad job. O wait, weren't you all the same? Atleast that MP-PR avatar is a stock photo, right?
You can make money and do business without being a total asshole.

Btw, MPEx is now doomed without S.DICE. But I hope you already knew this.

I'm sorry for bumping this thread...

Well, there is still S.MPOE on MPEX and MP is quite aware what this makes out of MPEX, hence the Backround of this Photo

Maybe this is also why he needs this masturbation thread to jerk off to?  ;)

LOL
You remind me of this guy i knew.
Every friday he would go to a random kintergarten, step in and start laughing at the kids for not having college education.
"Bow", he used to say, "bow to your god!"
Yeah, the kids prolly had it coming.
Good times.

Oh, buttcoin still lives? Neat.

They'll probably be around longer than MPEX.

You didn't tell me how there wasn't insider trading going on.

tits or gtfo anyone?  ;D

Recalls badly that it was delivered once r3wt beware lol

Well, MPOE-PR could also explain us why she or he is being an asshole. Or does he think he's not acting like an asshole? Seriously. It's bad PR for MPEX.

What makes you think you have a clue about PR? You don't have a clue about anything else, why'd PR be the one exception?

It's bad PR for MPEX.

Calling others untrustworthy piece of shit etc. is good PR

How do you expect me to tell you how something DIDN'T happen? That's not possible.

How do you expect me to tell you how something DIDN'T happen? That's not possible.

What's possible is you actually building your case, as to what you think did happen. If you manage to step outside the pinko swarm mentality for a moment and actually articulate thoughts for yourself rather than simply re-hashing the entire contextual "words for their effect" thing.

I think a lot of people disagree, and the people who agree you aren't the target audience for MPEx anyway.

I wonder are people who accept this kids acting the target audience of an exchange. An exchange that stupid people need to pay 3000 USD to use. And there's nothing much more to trade except the exchanges stock itself.

But that's about enough about MPEX.

I am not a guy.

I'd like you to tell me how you'll shut the hell up, but that's never gonna happen.
In other news, your threads have gone from informatively insulting to downright and embarassingly cringeworthy.

You're giving MP and his business(es?) a bad name, not that that can do any MORE damage to their reputation.

Alright then, somebody got wind of the SD deal before it was announced, along with the price and bought up all shares below that price. MPEX is one of the places where the information could have been available beforehand. This makes you a potential suspect.

Kids usually learn to not behave like that because it's super stupid.

And there's nothing much more to trade except the exchanges stock itself.

Careful there, a burt hutt is showing.

MPOE - BTCUSD options.

Prove it.

And S.MG (http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MG), the only actual business to so far come out of BTC. (Yeah, yeah, mining, I get it I get it. See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201268.msg2121475#msg2121475).)

4. Maybe you could compensate me for my wasted time and turned down expectations and at least prove you are not a guy?

For the record, I never knew about it before I read about it on Trilema. MP obviously knew about it, but is the only one here that did and never said anything to anyone before Erik announced it. This anyone includes the numerous PT operators, which were (perhaps understandably) at least nonplussed by the shock of it. So, suspect away, but nothing came out of MPEx on the score. I have all this on divine authority.

That aside, the graph you point to suffers from the following defects:
a. it comes from an untrustworthy source;
b. fails to show anything out of the ordinary and
c. (as pankkake points out) is mistimed.

So no, on the balance of evidence nobody got wind of anything whatsoever and did nothing with it at all. The SA crew found about the whole thing late and just threw some words on the page more or less randomly. Which you know, is cool and all, but...seriously, that site used to benefit from a lot more intelligent effort, and it showed. Goonworld running out of people? Or just a dearth of smart ones?

Obligatory : http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/

Cool. A woman with a beard. But still a woman  :D Shouldn't s(he) work in a circus?

Seriously, this is pretty much a non-evidence.

So essentially this is people continued trading the stock even while it's worth a fixed price, ok that's an explanation I can accept.

Problem 4 : Permeating all the foregoing and sufficiently so to become a problem in its own right is the incredible arrogance of the recently liberated corporate slavebois working as independent coders. Seriously, start working on the BTC securities trade system of the future without ever having worked for MPEx, without having humbly presented your inept ideas to the most grandiose master Mircea Popescu (ie, me), without anything like that ? O, why, because you're a special little trainflake of brilliance and genius who can ? Really ?

Mar 09 06:46:30 <knotwork>   is it true at all that using Tor .onion site or i2p site these DDOS attacks would not work?
Mar 09 06:46:45 <knotwork>   I would've though the DDOS might just kind of clog entire Tor or i2p system
Mar 09 06:51:53 <doctor_pullfingr>   so, sounds like old school irc server and irc bot/supybot/pympex is all I need
Mar 09 06:52:35 *   Chilca (~Chilca@c-67-164-89-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
Mar 09 06:53:03 <doctor_pullfingr>   to hook up mpex to ripple
Mar 09 06:53:13 <mircea_popescu>   knotwork the tor proposition is a little more complicated
Mar 09 06:53:19 <mircea_popescu>   there are chokepoints

Mar 10 15:11:41 <AndChat567216>   It's perhaps discussed already... but why not a MPEX proxy as TOR hidden service?

To try and get this back on topic (ie, the worship of his greatness MP the Bitcoin God):



So now...why not Tor? Here's the difference between you and your God: you know the answer mid August. He makes the right calls early March. That's what it is.

You're wrong here.
First, you can do two things with TOR (and not necessarily both):
* hide where the server is
* hide where the client is (already possible in current state of MPEX)

The recent attack was exploiting a website and inserting malicious JavaScript to reveal user's identities.
If there is a security hole in MPEX, you'll more serious issues anyway, but the JavaScript issue would likely not arrive as I'm pretty sure most MPEX clients are not regular browsers.

TOR itself was not compromised.
Is it useful to hide where the MPEX is? Certainly not now. But what happened lately is irrelevant.

To try and get this back on topic (ie, the worship of his greatness MP the Bitcoin God):
[...]
Here's the difference between you and your God: you know the answer mid August. He makes the right calls early March. That's what it is.

Typical idiocy

Your questions are broken, in that they make mistaken assumptions about the world which renders them unanswerable. That you don't realize this is what makes you stupid. It's not a matter of me calling you so, it's a matter of you being so.

Again it does not matter as the attack was not related to TOR.
It was used to get out of TOR.

Your questions are broken, in that they make mistaken assumptions about the world which renders them unanswerable.

1. Care to explain those ''mistaken assumptions''?

What about i2p? cjdns? I don't know much about them, but they have common principles.

Alright then, somebody got wind of the SD deal before it was announced, along with the price and bought up all shares below that price. MPEX is one of the places where the information could have been available beforehand. This makes you a potential suspect.

What I know for sure is that MPOE-PR is ignorant and he knows it.

Are you with the Self Contradiction Brigade?

WTF is going on here!?!??!?!

Trannies doing donkey shows, back room deals between duplicitous shady characters.

Who knew BTCtalk was so exciting with such colorful characters?

Give me MOAR!!

I might actually work on a compilation of drama threads next week, for newbies to catch up more easily than I did.  ;)

Nope.

WTF is going on here!?!??!?!

Actually I was interested in this case, because it looks indeed suspicious.

The first  spike in volume was a sale. Maybe the alleged insider put up a buy wall which was filled immediately, but I exclude this trade from the trades of interest for now. The jump from 0.0022 BTC to 0.002399 BTC was due to the next buy, not because of the sale of 5000 shares.

https://i.imgur.com/3xfr8YS.png (https://i.imgur.com/3xfr8YS.png)

The next picture shows the range of alleged insider trades:

https://i.imgur.com/c65F2Fq.png (https://i.imgur.com/c65F2Fq.png)

Inbetween those two points were:

61 trades (60x "Market Buy", 1x "Call Option") with a volume of 12,156 shares for a total of 32.61828 BTC. The averaged price per share was 0.002683 BTC. This results in a profit of 9.92772 BTC after the buyback for 42.546 BTC (0.0035 BTC per share).

10 BTC profit in a 126,315 BTC deal seems somewhat insignificant to me.

I might actually work on a compilation of drama threads next week, for newbies to catch up more easily than I did.  ;)

Actually I was interested in this case, because it looks indeed suspicious.

The first  spike in volume was a sale. Maybe the alleged insider put up a buy wall which was filled immediately, but I exclude this trade from the trades of interest for now. The jump from 0.0022 BTC to 0.002399 BTC was due to the next buy, not because of the sale of 5000 shares.

https://i.imgur.com/3xfr8YS.png (https://i.imgur.com/3xfr8YS.png)

The next picture shows the range of alleged insider trades:

https://i.imgur.com/c65F2Fq.png (https://i.imgur.com/c65F2Fq.png)

Inbetween those two points were:

61 trades (60x "Market Buy", 1x "Call Option") with a volume of 12,156 shares for a total of 32.61828 BTC. The averaged price per share was 0.002683 BTC. This results in a profit of 9.92772 BTC after the buyback for 42.546 BTC (0.0035 BTC per share).

10 BTC profit in a 126,315 BTC deal seems somewhat insignificant to me.

Where one can look at those s.dice charts? Preferably non-java charts.

And remember this might help keep your godness on top for quite some time, before you become the god of "Off Topic".  :)

No. What he said was that there's no way to tell whether you then use that to try and convince some random clueless noob that indeed you're rich. This is a fact: had he not sunk your stupid little idea you could have so convinced some random clueless noob. Irrespective of whether you had planned to or would have actually tried to, this is still not something you should be trusted with, as in spite of all the pretense you're still an untrustworthy, duplicitous piece of shit.


Could you possibly have missed that thread?!

Well, there is http://coinflow.co/chart/S.DICE-PT.

If you need NT importable data, I'd be happy to serve Daddy Loozik. :D

...

So people still don't know about these gems.. ;)

BTC-TC, LTC-Global, Bitfunder, MPEx and Havelock are the major five whereby LTC-GLOBAL a Litecoin exchange is. BTC-TC (www.btct.co) has the highest volume (30d avg 197k, daily avg 6.6k Bitcoin).

The charting situation is even worse. IRC trade feeds and coinflow are the only public tools I know of.

What makes you think you have a clue about PR? You don't have a clue about anything else, why'd PR be the one exception?

He has worn better. WORSHIP HIM.

http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mircea-popescu-gpl-3.jpg

::Cue the Joker theme song from Burton's Batman movie (Who Do You Love?)::

Simply a Page 8 post to state that I want to believe.

call Walter, the Observers landed!

Has MP himself seen this reputation ruining thread started by his PR employee?

This thread made it to the Bitcoin media http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/archives/20634 He must have seen it.

Only if the indescript mucus filling all the crevices of the web (aka redditards) gets butthurt enough.

I'm still convinced they're the same person?

He looks a bit like Boy George in that pic.  ;D

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/G/Boy-George-433170-1-402.jpg

Wow. You don't half-ass it, do you, Loozik?

My girl friend is in neuroscience and psychology. I happen to know a thing or two :)

wait so the tits in question do not belong to the female in the avatar? nevermind then

his girl took like two whole classes in psych

Be cautious of this guy

This is our ironic request that everybody let this thread die.

Why should we do that? This topic is instructive (especially the first part) and somewhat entertaining.

Because when you feed the trolls, it gives them what they wanted: publicity.

Just bumping this to see which of the "important" members of the community that had promised Kenna their support in getting his scam off the ground will admit to having been a) despicable worms for even trying to prop scammers and b) soundly and thoroughly beaten to shit by MP.

Come on, be men rather than rats. Let's hear it.

I feel like I missed something ... Who is Kenna and which scam were they running?

Bump.

Here's what you're all doing.

https://i.imgur.com/CC963Z8.gif

Stop questioning authority!

http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_jul2010.jpg (http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_jul2010.jpg) http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_apr2011.jpg (http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_apr2011.jpg) http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_iul2012.jpg (http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_iul2012.jpg)

:D
Pretty much why I chose those - they are also in chronological order (at least according to the filenames).
I have to say Mircea looks much better now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4jn77VKlQ

V. Ripple being (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211068.msg2212598#msg2212598) pumped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128413.msg1367532#msg1367532) to death (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201794.msg2112598#msg2112598) by all the shill armies of Bitcointalk? All it takes is MP writing its walking papers (http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/) and that's that, sweet dreams Ripple.

Butthurt?

How's that go?

It's still around. But maybe you can get Mr. Poopscoop to hire somebody to take over from Tradefortress who seem to have some credibility problem.
Or do you think you are up to it?

In that case you better get to work, I am starting to worry since my free XRP are becoming worth something.

What's an MP?

Who is he?

They are two different persons.

Here is my hypothesis about MPOE-PR.

Background

It is proved that human brain develops rapidly during pregnancy and during period 0 -3 years after the birth. After a human reaches 4 years of age the neurogenesis (creating new brain cells) only happens in a small part in hipocampal area called dentate gyrus). It is essential that mother delivers good environment to the child during the pregnancy (she should not undergo stress, she should run healthy life and eat good food) and at least during first 3 years of life.

After the child is born the child should be taken care of by loving parents or guardians and learn from them how to solve problems. If parents solve the problems through negotiations the child will pick up this method quickly and there is high probability that this human will transform into a valuable person.

If parents / guardians solve problems by ways of coercion, beatings, ridiculing then the child will quickly pick up such way of solving problems. There is high probability a child who was maltreated, will develop a sociopathic or psychopathic personality.

What we know about MPOE-PR

Fetal alcohol syndrome:
From her pictures we know she has a short upturned nose. This is a classic symptom of fetal alcohol syndrome http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/19842.htm or http://www.i-am-pregnant.com/Birth/Birth-defects/Fetal-Alcohol-Syndrome It is very sad pregnant women drink alcohol. Whenever I see a human with fetal alcohol syndrome I feel deeply sorry.

Abusive parents / guardians:
The way MPOE-PR treats other humans tells a lot about her childhood. She must have been treated this way as a child. Ridiculed (even if she was right), maybe beaten. Whenever I see a child who is incapable of having a normal conversation I feel deeply sorry. If I can I try to talk to parents and persuade them not to beat the child anymore, not to ridicule, etc. Sometimes I can help, sometimes I can't.

Why I don't feel sorry for MPOE-PR

She is a grown up. She had plenty of time to sort out her problems: she could go to a psychologist, she could talk to friends, etc.

There is no way she can reverse the symptoms of the fetal alcohol syndrome, but with a professional help at least she could manage to overcome her early childhood experiences and become a better human. Had she done it, she would make now a good PR person. She is smart, intelligent, but somehow she finds pleasure in ridiculing people. Ridiculing and other anti-social behaviours have been imprinted in her brain since she was a baby - but this should have been cured long time ago.

Who is MP?

He is just a guy. If he is smart, he should have noticed these problems. If he cares about other human beings, he should have helped MPOE-PR. He didn't help her. He is just using this poor girl and maybe he is getting sick satisfaction seeing her being ridiculed back.

Banque de France obeys that ruling, Today (http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html).

There is actually much less FUD than I'd have expected (still is a little, but I'm impressed).

au‑delà des aspects marketing et publicitaire

Maybe you can pull some instant victory off through marketing and ads, but you'd expose yourself to high risks (of non-sustainability).

The important part is not in the text, it is in the name of the file.

"Stabilité financière".

Financial stability.

That's what really scares the Banque de France !

VII. MP rules Bitcoin not a currency, Oct 4 2012 (http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/).

Fincen obeys that ruling, Mar 18 2013 (http://fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html).

Central bank of China obeys that ruling Dec 4, 2013 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html).

Banque de France obeys that ruling, Today (http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html).

Who is your god? All together now....

PS. Mad props to all the irrelevant redditards and assorted armchair lawyers who thought they knew better than MP.

I'd be interested to hear his current market insights, Is their a link to them on his blog?

http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/
Just check the "Recent Articles" right menu and enjoy.

As weird has he can get, Popescu made it to my ~10 names trust list.
He's definitely someone you can trust, provided you play by the his rules.
Rules that are clearly defined.

You can also lurk on #bitcoin-assets (http://bitcoin-assets.com/).
And I've learned quite a few things by asking the right dumb questions!

You can also lurk on #bitcoin-assets (http://bitcoin-assets.com/).
And I've learned quite a few things by asking the right dumb questions!

Use several VPN, and Tor, or understand you'll get hacked, if not, though.

#bitcoin-assets may be the cave of the lion, but I'm pretty sure no one there has ill intentions like hacking those who arrive without using Tor or VPNs. ;)

Related: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks

18:03:12 <mircea_popescu>        lol @jpm trying to patent bitcoin
18:03:21 <mircea_popescu>        i hope they realise this means rape.
18:03:24 <jcpham>        i bet the get a patent too
18:03:32 <jcpham>        i doubt it does any good
18:03:46 <ThickAsThieves>        they want to reinvent credit cards?
18:04:10 <jcpham>        yes but first they copied something free to use
18:04:21 <pankkake>        imagine if bitcoin was like credits cards, we'd give private keys to each other and trust not to take more than needed
18:04:24 <mircea_popescu>        jcpham i doubt they'll actually get the patent
18:04:34 <mircea_popescu>        these days the patent office is high into trolling applicants.
18:04:38 <nubbins`>        mp, link?
18:04:42 <jcpham>        i wouldn't be suprised mircea_popescu
18:04:48 <jcpham>        but it's harder than it used to be
18:04:53 <mircea_popescu>        let the record show obama did some things right, too
18:05:08 <mircea_popescu>        but now they're putting a lot of effort into searching prior art.
18:05:16 <mircea_popescu>        two degrees of magnitude more than during bush say

05:51:02 <ozbot>        JPMorgan's "Bitcoin-Alternative" Patent Rejected (175 Times) | Zero Hedge
05:51:02 <mircea_popescu>        herp

Feb 02 21:24:15 (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2014#475319) <mircea_popescu> basically bitcoin got attacked in 2013 by the most unlikely of sources : the dieing start-up circus.

Feb 02 21:24:42 <mircea_popescu> most nobody even noticed, or cared. except for the finest tuned of watchdogs or w/e

1. MP tells dogetards to fuck off (https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/429721375452848128), yesterday.

2.
That was...about 7 hours ago.

3. Doge devs backstab everyone and run (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wtbdt/doge_devs_just_fucked_all_the_initial_investors/).

That was...about 6 hours ago.

Wink wink nudge nudge.

Pretty disappointed with the first photoshoped submissions.
Was hoping for stuff involving tentacles, young women and religious material.

I get so many lulz out of you and MP. Thanks for keeping it real lol

Cheap material, unflattering cut, third world manufacture, an expensive suit indeed! Didn't read the thread, I could almost feel the verbal diarrhoea dripping on my tailored Brooks Brothers polo.

Cheap material, unflattering cut, third world manufacture, an expensive suit indeed! Didn't read the thread, I could almost feel the verbal diarrhoea dripping on my tailored Brooks Brothers polo.

Daily, I still pay homage to your toes and that Bic pen pic, then drink the grape Kool-Aid.

http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/SILVER1.JPG

That's a nice vase.

It was a $3 thrift store purchase plus the tailor's (modest) fee, little boy. I'd rather be a nobody in a beautiful shirt than an idiot in an ugly suit.

As a god, you should frown upon donations of empty vases, even more when it was full of Kool-Aid just before.
Unless you're a god that does not fancy Kool-Aid, but it's very unlikely.

what does MP think of IFC?

How am I a god?

Feb 02 21:24:15 <mircea_popescu>   basically bitcoin got attacked in 2013 by the most unlikely of sources : the dieing start-up circus.
Feb 02 21:24:42 <mircea_popescu>   most nobody even noticed, or cared. except for the finest tuned of watchdogs or w/e

Feb 02 21:28:00 <benkay>   attacked?
Feb 02 21:28:06 <mircea_popescu>   well yes.
Feb 02 21:28:26 <mircea_popescu>   "There are more transactions of the cryptocurrency than Bitcoin, although it is only worth a tiny fraction of Bitcoin."
Feb 02 21:28:31 <mircea_popescu>   http://www.sbs.com.au/news/blog/2014/01/29/blog-dogecoins-message-chinese-investor-wolong
Feb 02 21:28:38 <mircea_popescu>   it's quite clear if you do aggregate counting.
Feb 02 21:29:06 <mircea_popescu>   they are attacking bitcoin. perhaps in the manner an ant attacks a rhino, but nevertheless. as far as the ant is concerned, in its own system of representations, that's what's going on.
Feb 02 21:29:30 <mircea_popescu>   http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#469653
Feb 02 21:30:25 <benkay>   entertaining and all but from the ants perspective how is what they're doing an attack?
Feb 02 21:30:45 <mircea_popescu>   ant will kill rhino, skin it, wear the skin as king of the jungle.

Feb 02 21:31:01 <benkay>   like 'i am startup and will rule all the buttcorns'?
Feb 02 21:31:14 <mircea_popescu>   because if you get more fuckwits to retweet your inane shit you will thus therefore be "bigger" and "more important" than people with fewer retweets.
Feb 02 21:31:22 <mircea_popescu>   it's web start-up brain rot, quite typical.
Feb 02 21:32:15 <mircea_popescu>   in principle, every circlejerk imagines itself "the only thing out there". like, the us thinks it's "the world". any us court thinks it has universal jurisdiction. any us politician thinks that his decisions matter universally.
Feb 02 21:32:41 <mircea_popescu>   the va circus, as hopelessly fucked as they are, imagine that "all entrepreneurship" is... well... them.
Feb 02 21:33:07 <mircea_popescu>   that they will be crushed by much larger things that exist independent of their knowledge or understanding is about as aliento them as mpex customers to jimmothey
Feb 02 21:33:59 <mircea_popescu>   so basically what we have here, is "everyone" in the sense of "everyone that goes to tech conferences in SF and reads techcrunch religiously" figures they can take over this novel idea.

Feb 02 21:34:02 <````>   i can vaguely recall some very negative sentiment on ycombinator and else
Feb 02 21:34:18 <mircea_popescu>   ;;google ycombinator jointly and severally
Feb 02 21:34:19 <gribble>   Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally : Bitcoin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19en4a/ycombinator_continues_to_suck_jointly_and/>; Series AA Stock Purchase Agreement - Y Combinator: <http://ycombinator.com/seriesaa/Series_AA_SPA.docx>; European reforms are not enough, joint liability needed: <http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/12/european-reforms- (1 more message)

Feb 02 21:34:21 <````>   then the silicon valley bank deal came (which ended nowhere)
Feb 02 21:34:27 <mircea_popescu>   there you go.

Feb 02 21:34:43 <benkay>   well sv bank can hardly be thought of as a high finance operation
Feb 02 21:34:48 <benkay>   they do payroll and what have you
Feb 02 21:35:11 <mircea_popescu>   anyway. an attack it is.
Feb 02 21:35:29 <mircea_popescu>   ironically, while the correct move may seem to be to support ltc to crush them back into the swamp,
Feb 02 21:35:40 <mircea_popescu>   the actual correct move is to simply support other alternatives to burn their underbase.
Feb 02 21:36:01 <mircea_popescu>   you want them to eat ltc's lunch to some degree, much like you want about 50 other groups to start their own, doge-food eating bitcoin killers.
Feb 02 21:36:41 <mircea_popescu>   so you know... ATC/ALT getting more hash than doge serves a good purpose in the end.
Feb 02 21:36:51 <mircea_popescu>   (funny how nobody seems to have noticed that, too :p)
Feb 02 21:37:17 <ThickAsThieves>   so what you're saying is Altcoin really is the first altcoin with a purpose
Feb 02 21:37:26 <mircea_popescu>   hehe. myeah.

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PR, no gloating about how poopscoop supposedly predicted the gox clusterfuck?

First linode stole from us, and then we boycotted linode.

Then dwolla stole from us, and we boycotted dwolla.

Now Cyprus steals from us, and so we shall boycott Cyprus.

Or maybe we just don't give a shit.


Yes well, obviously they'll play it both ways if they can.

We have a major problem with data feeds. On one hand, feed providers do not generally have either the ethical maturity to understand the responsibility curating their feeds entails. On the other hand, feed providers do not have the intellectual complexity or professional experience to be able to actually curate their feeds.

From http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/

So does Mr. MP, the "god" himself also not have the "intellectual complexity or professional experience to be able to actually curate" his own darn feed?

By the way, Who is MP?

From http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/

So does Mr. MP, the "god" himself also not have the "intellectual complexity or professional experience to be able to actually curate" his own darn feed?

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/01/openbsd/

When does he start funding the 1980s style porno?

Maybe he just likes pimp style :D Who knows what you'd be wearing if you had his money.

I knew you guys would love that photo. When I saw it I was thinking "Saturday Night Fever".

It does take awhile for movies to get to Romania so I guess they just got Saturday Night Fever.

To have meaningful data, the feeds must originate at the source of the data. They have to come from the bitcoin exchanges. You can make whatever aggregated bitcoin price you want, but if the input data is not reliable, then the output is meaningless.

It does take awhile for movies to get to Romania so I guess they just got Saturday Night Fever.

Actually , with the amount of piracy and the really fast connection , movies are getting pretty fast here.
PS. I don't approve his language , behavior , etc. , don't make it general for all the people in this landfill :)

so there's no excuse for that

When I think of Romania this comes to my mind :D Now imagine "your God" sitting in front of his castle.

And I always thought that gypsies come to Romania from India not Egypt.

OTOH it's not like the feed operators owe anyone jackshit.

Common , we're known also for hookers , post that instead. I'm getting sick when i remember those "castles"
Also:


I was the first one to post this in this thread , but I don't consider him a gypsy because of his look or race but because of his crappy attitude and language.

ps.
Do you know that mos of those houses don't have real bathrooms or if they have they are not connected to running water?
And most of times , even if they have 20 rooms they sleep and eat in only one or two? No joke....

MP failed us?

True. It looks like the "winkdex" might be the first feed-as-a-service, but I doubt MP would care.

Anyway, options are gone. No other reliable leveraged BTC/USD instrument seems to exist.

MP failed us?

Could you trade X.EUR with leverage?

You can trade any asset on margin according to the FAQ.

But, as MP notes, the spread/depth is not that great for X.EUR. At least, if you're trying to use it to profit from BTC/USD movement, it's not as good as the options were.

Today the IRS joins the ranks of the other US agencies which obey MP's orders and recognize his supremacy over the field: BTC is indeed no currency (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/irs-bitcoin-is-property-like-a-stock-or-bond-and-not-a-currency/).

You got this one backwards, they say it's virtual currency, that's taxed like property.
In other words it's a hippo that's taxed like an elephant, go figure.

It is however undecided whether the hippo is stronger than the elephant or if it's the other way around.
I'd personnally bet on the hippo.

I will say he's a hypocritical bastard

Oh look who's mad.

Virtual Commodity, can you spell that?

What is this, the Our Colonies Inventing Word Combinations Festival?

Are we going to do Virtual Government, Pointless Bureaucracy etc next?

I don't know who MP is yet but I will be sure to find out.  I just don't get why people feel the need to put others down for there lack of knowledge.  Maybe it's just me but we should try and show others the way without belittling them.  Just my 2 cents carry on.