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How much is this project soft cap? I know very little about this area, for the project itself, I think it's hard to attract investors because it looks like a low return on investment.

Hello!
Taking into consideration the complexity of this project we have established the Hard Cap at the level of
50 M USD, while Soft Cap is 6 M USD.
All tokens will be sold according to the following rate: 1 TOSS equals 0.17 USD.
Tokens that won’t be sold will be distributed between buyers in proportion to their purchases.
In case the Soft Cap is not reached all purchases will be returned to purchasers .
We are accepting both �rypto (ETH, BTC, BCH, DASH, XRP) and FIAT (Visa/Mastercard + Wire
Transfers).
Regards!

The world of betting is now a business world that many people love, this project is good to have a good ecosystem plan a good luck bet

Thank you very much for your support!

The pleasure of a pretty good project betting project continues to grow into a fun and profitable big project, with the seriousness of the work will bring success.

this is a kind of competition that requires 3 winners who will get the prize. But I do not understand the rules of the project.

You need to come up with a phrase that is easy to remember, a meaningless theme for the project, in a positive way.
What should be a modern meme:
unusual,
original,
witty,
possessing a special style,
simple,
laconic,
accessible in the understanding,
causing an emotional reaction,
associative.

Hindi ANN is now available on :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2961362.new#new

thanks
SG

Good luck guys :)

Hindi whitepaper is now available on the link below :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wmqWN52N1t4CTSI2-r2yD5ouJLi_0htg/view?usp=sharing

Interested in technological features of the new smart betting ecosystem? Check out our code on the Github https://github.com/ProofOfToss/proof-of-toss

We are creating the first betting protocol on the RSK's blockchain - a smart contract platform with a 2-way peg to Bitcoin. Join us in Telegram and talk to the team https://t.me/proofoftoss

Have a look on the interview with our CEO!
https://coinspot.io/company/intervyu-cto-proekta-proof-of-toss-evgenij-pavlenko-o-ego-arhitekture-i-tehnicheskoj-realizacii/

The site does not specify the date of the presale, but as far as I understand it has already ended, how much was collected?

Hello! We are on Private Sale stage at the moment for major buyers, our open sale will start on the  12 of April and will last for 2 months or Hard Cap reached.We will publish all the updates on our official website shortly.
Regards

We want our token sale to run smoothly and we are doing everything to make it happen. At the moment our developers are testing the smart contracts and setting up the necessary infrastructure to make sure the token sale process is secure. Due to that reason, we think it’s worth postponing the token sale a little bit to ensure that everything is ready to go. Our token sale will start on April 24th, 2018.

Great news for those of you that not yet joined our whitelist and shared their referral links with friends and communities. Spread the word about PROOF OF TOSS, help us grow.
https://medium.com/proof-of-toss/proof-of-toss-moves-the-token-sale-date-to-improve-security-fca1f3bfaa0a

What makes your project different between other similar projects?

Hello!
We are the first complete betting protocol. Meaning we cover the full spectrum of betting. Moreover, we are the first blockchain betting project that is truly scalable. The underlying technology for PROOF OF TOSS is RSK’s smart contracts, a quick glance at RSK will show you that they are scalable to 400 transactions per second. Betting is a very busy niche and speed is an essential part which will either make the project a success or a failure.
Regards

Great project!  ;) What is the price per token? How to participate in the token sale? Do you have any bonuses? Do you have any territory restrictions?

This looks very interesting at first, blockchain powered betting  system.

Gonna check whitepaper abit more and then I'll be back with the questions :)

HI!
Thank you very much for your questions.
To participate in the PROOF OF TOSS Token Sale all buyers must go through our KYC procedures. More information can be found in the Legal section of the White Paper.
10 000 TOSS = 1 ETH
MINIMUM PURCHASE QUANTITY - 0.071 ETH
RESTRICTED AREAS: Citizens, residents (tax or otherwise), or green card holders, of the United States of America are
ineligible to purchase any TOSS tokens in the TOSS Initial Coin Offering. The same pertains for residents of the Republic of Singapore, Canada and Hong Kong.
Yes, there are BONUSES! You'll get the bonus of 1000 TOSS tokens on any purchase during the token sale - join our Whitelist!

Thank you for your support!
Please do:)

Can you give some more insight on the Proof of Toss foundation?

The only thing I found in the whitepaper is that 11% of the TOSS tokens are for the PROOF OF TOSS Foundation and that it will start being developed or it will start operating in Q3 of 2018 and continue into 2019. Hope this helps a bit.

Looking an interesting concept.Whats your soft cap/hard cap?

For how long are you developing this idea,when exactly you started ?

Thanks!;)
Taking into consideration the complexity of this project we have established the Hard Cap at the level of 71 500 ETH, while Soft Cap is 8 500 ETH.

What are the advantages of your betting ecosystem,compared to the classic,non-blockhain based ones?

With years of experience in the betting and gambling industries, the leaders of PROOF OF TOSS were at the forefront of Bitcoin adaptation. OUR F ounder,Azamat Akilov was introduced to gambling in the early 90’s. For the next 10 years, he confidently moved up the career ladder, he acquired valuable contacts, among them – his future partner in the development of PROOF OF TOSS, Dmitry.
Refused Dmitry’s proposal to add bitcoin to his bookmaker website back in 2013.  Come spring of 2017 we formed a team that was ready to look for an opportunity to develop a bookmaking project with the implementation of blockchain technology.

Hi!
Thank you for your question!
MAIN BENEFITS THAT BLOCKCHAIN BRINGS TO OUR USERS ARE:
FULL CONTROL OVER THE FUNDS IN YOUR WALLET;
NO TERMINATIONS OF SERVICE;
INSTANT PAYOUTS;
IRONCLAD RULES;
INCREASE MARKET COVERAGE;
NO CHARGEBACKS;
BETTER LIQUIDITY;
STAY AHEAD OF THEIR COMPETITION!
You can find out more details in our Short Paper - https://toss.pro/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ShortPaper.pdf

Good to hear that your founder is experienced in betting.He still has bookmaker website?

Oh,yes, our founder is Senior Partner of Bookmakers Company Fair Play.

Cool to see betting project coming along.Thumbs up! Need to read a bit and check it out further now, got me interested I must say :D Do you have any competition that you know of? I know a bit about FunFair, but they are into casino, not betting as far as I'm aware of.

Can US citizens participate in ICO also?

Can I invest with credit card directly or do I need to buy ETH on coinbase first?

Thank you for your support!
You are absolutely right about FunFair.
Therefore, our competitors include both blockchain peer-to-peer betting solutions such as STOX, and prediction markets like AUGUR as well as traditional bookmakers, that have a licenced and legal turnover of around 60 bn USD, the traditional online betting companies however we consider to also be our potential partners / clients / users, because we are developing an open-source solution for them to easily transition their existing business models to blockchain ommiting third party payment solution providers, some scaling issues, as well providing them with a competative advantage over traditional online bookmakers by reducing running costs.

i have seen some project like this, a betting platform that uses the blockchain and smart contracts to protect the users. What is the difference of this project from the other betting platform that is related to crypto especially on the WAGERR which is already running and with similar concepts?

Hi! We are accepting ETH during both Private Sale and Crowd Sale,so you will need to get some Ether first:)
Thanks

Aren't credit card transactions a security liability? More than crypto transactions?

Hello! Thank you for your question.

I am really sorry, however, citizens/residents (tax or otherwise), or green card holders, of the United States of America are ineligible to purchase any TOSS tokens in the TOSS Initial Coin Offering.

Most definitely and it brings more stuff to cover.Crypto is maybe a bit more work for new people, but it's safer then using cc online if you ask me.Fiat is dying anyway and best way to support crypto projects like this one is to actually use crypto to support it  ;D

I'm passionate man who likes to bet, been betting for 20 years now and I'm really happy that there are other enthusiasts also who are giving a go to bring betting on blockchain, so thunps up for you guys :D I was wondering do you guys maybe have a Facebook page already? I use Facebook a lot, for my work also so it would be helpful to have you there too  8)

I just came across this project and I have to say it is quite interesting. I know a lot of people who are huge betting fans.

HELLO! Thank you for your question.
We are the first complete betting protocol. Meaning we cover the full spectrum of betting. Moreover, we are the first blockchain betting project that is truly scalable. The underlying technology for PROOF OF TOSS is RSK’s smart contracts, a quick glance at RSK will show you that they are scalable to 400 transactions per second. Betting is a very busy niche and speed is an essential part which will either make the project a success or a failure.

That's great! Soon you will have an opportunity to try different roles on our platform: to create a Wager, to bet on the outcome or to judge.. ;)
Here you go this is our Official Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/ProofOfToss (https://www.facebook.com/ProofOfToss)

Thank you for your kind consideration. :D :)
Let me know if you want to know more about our project.

Reasonable amounts, and I'm sure team knows the best how much money is needed to successfully finish the project.

In case you dont reach hard cap,these 71500 ETH,what will happen with unsold tokens?

Hi. An interesting project. Can you please explain the KYC procedures briefly? Thank you for reply  :)

Token supply will be determined by the token sale, we have allocated 70% of all tokens to be sold on both private and public rounds. The project is fully bootstrapped therefore we did not see the need to have a pre-sale. Tokens are minted/emmited by the smart-contract upon purchase and no extra tokens will be created once the token sale is over.

Interesting project with a lot of perspective! I can definitely see it succeeding.

Thank you for detailed answer,but what i meant was,if for exmaple you only sell 60000 ETH worth of tokens(out of 71500 ETH),what will happen with rest of them?Will you burn them,or maybe save them and then spend in some different way,like promotion,or airdrop?

It' s great that you're sharing this. I'll have to read the whitepaper to get more info.

Are there any code experts here that can give a short review of the code?

How the role of a judge will be incorporated into the platform, can you explain it ?

I don't know if someone already asked thia but why did you call it Proof of Toss?

Is it familiar what different type of bet will have on the platform?

As one of the benefit points you narked Wisdom of the Crowd. What do you mean by that?

Hi,

can you explain why you created your token instead of using Ethereum?

Most of the projects simply burn them, but lets wait and see what  exactly they plan to do.

I see that you mentioned soft cap in the title of the thread. Any updates there, is it reached, how close exactly are you?

The KYC Procedure includes two steps:
Step 1.
 Fill in registration form with the following information about yourself:
 First name; Last name; Nationality; Country of Residence; Address.
 Then, please provide details on your personal / business activity:
 Industry Code—the field of your work;
 Occupation code—the type (or title) of your work;
 Source of funds – earned income (salary) or investments, etc.
 Please provide your email address and phone number in any form.
Step2.
 Choose your identification document.
 Then, please enter the issue date and the date of the chosen document.
 Please pay attention to the format of the date, which should be written in the form of
 year-month-date. For example, the 6th of February, 1996 should be written as: 1996–02–06.
 Please, do not use commas or spaces.
 All the user information on the photo must be clearly visible.

I will try to explain these:)
In short the process is as follows. Every time someone makes a purchase, an ammount equivalent to the formula 1 TOSS = 0.0001 ETH is created and transferred to his/her wallet.
For example. Someone pays 1 ETH, his wallet will immediately receive 10 000 TOSS tokens + any bonus that applies (we have a volume based and an early bird bonus. Volume bonus on public sale appies at 72 ETH or more and receives 30% bonus. Early bird is - 1st day of token sale 15%, second and third 10%, 4th till 7th 5% ). Lets assume we sell 700 000 000 TOSS tokens during the token sale including all bonuses, that is considered to be 70% of all tokens, therefore 300 000 000 TOSS tokens will be created to cover our Bounty, Whitelist, Referrals, Team, Founders, Advisors, and the TOSS Fund. This way no extra tokens are created and there is no need to burn anything. ;)

We greatly appreciate your kind words.

The PROOF OF TOSS referral program is now live. Everyone can bring a friend and get 8% per referral. For this affiliate program PROOF OF TOSS has allocated 5% of all TOSS tokens.

You can become a user of the platform that is responsible for confirming an outcome of an Event that the Wager was created for, as well as resolve Challenges that arise in Wagers created by Operators. All
judging within the PROOF OF TOSS ecosystem is carried out by DCJ.
You can find out more details in our WhitePaper;)

Thank you for detailed answer,i really appreciate it!

Is there some maximum amount of referral bonus  one can get?

How long does it take to go trough this procedure,to get accepted?

I see that 6% of the tokens will be reserved for the team.Do you plan to lock those for some period of time?

We are using the wisdom of the crowd in all our Judging and Challenge mechanisms. Employing the “prisoner's dilemma” with clear risk and reward for any action taken by the crowd and relying on our random number generator to select Judges we ensure that every decision will be right and true, if such decision is unreachable the Wager is cancelled and players immediately receive a full refund.

Because placing a bet on an unpredictable result is comparable with a coin toss (coin flip). Our protocol helps confirm that the “toss” actually took place, that there were bets placed on different outcomes and then facilitates the process of determining a winner, ergo it’s a PROOF OF TOSS :)

The standard practice is to lock them up for a couple of years so it prevents manipulation. But at the end it's up to the project.   

Yes, you are right!
50% will be  locked for 1 year and 50% will be  locked for 2 years.

It's just a matter of few minutes,however, sometimes it might take up to 24 hours.

These are: solution for bookmakers and peer-to-peer solution. In the first one is a ready to use, open-source platform for professional sportsbook suppliers, where they can create their own applications for the betting sphere they operate in. The peer-to-peer solution is created for users;where users can bet on anything they want: weather,sport,elections, etc.

So for all of those who, like me, don't know this is the prisoner's dilemma meaning:

"The prisoner's dilemma is a standard example of a game analyzed in game theory that shows why two completely rational individuals might not cooperate, even if it appears that it is in their best interests to do so. "

so you will provide users the option to bet between themselves even on the most insignificant things. But the actual result needs to have some online proof?

You are absolutely right, Creator/Originator have to provide appropriate source where the results can be checked.

No,there is no maximum.

Wow, this will be so fun :D It's gonna be great to be able to bet on whatever you want in the system that has everything transparent! It's like heaven for betting :D

Can I bet that this project will be awesome!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Thank you, this project is very exciting.Option to create wager is great it will create so many interesting options! It's nice to see a team that responds on each question, shows dedication and that he project has a team that knows a way to go!

What is the minimum amount needed to invest in your ICO during sale? Is it only ETH or can it be BTC also?

That is why we are here!
Thanks;)

Do you have any bounty campaign going on yet?

How exactly will your platform generate income, as it will surely cost money to keep running it?

Will we be able to store TOSS on MyEtherWallet?Or you will have your own wallet too?

That is a good question, it surely costs to run infrastructure! Will there be some kind of fee for each bet or transaction or some kind of other way to facilitate the costs of running it?

Since TOSS is erc20 token, we should be able to store it on mew, or any other erc20 compatible wallet. But maybe will team make their own wallet as well.

As far as I understand it, it is also possible to have an additional customer check if the laws of individual countries so require (such as Anti Money Laundering law)?

So you will provide a third party to check it or will your team be the third party?

Which cryptocurrency will be used inside the RSK blockchain to pay for transactions (GAS)?

Bounty campaign is going on for some time,make sure to join,as there is still plenty of time left to get some easy tokens

Here is the link  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2890076.0

Is TOSS token pegged to ETH,so no matter the ETH price,it will always stay the same ratio?

Hehe that's exactly the type of mindset the team is betting on ;D

what if someone want silly internal wager with no proof? how will you discern such attempt?

Definition - Originator - a user of the platform with the level of expertise and knowledge in a particular sphere who can create interesting Wagers for other to bet on. So... :)

I understood that this will be for general bets, but for some peer-to-peer bets what will be the case?

I also read in one place that it will enable two different kinds of betting possibility

I'm very much interested if the source will be verified in some way.

so if it is peer-to-peer then if there is a dispute how is it settled?

Looking an interesting concept.Whats your soft cap

MINIMUM PURCHASE QUANTITY - 0.071 ETH
We are accepting ETH during both pre sale and token sale

Is this going to be just betting ecosystem,or there will be something like online casino too?

Do you have some "plan b" in case you dont reach soft cap?Im sure you will reach that,as you are already close,but just in case that happens,whats your next move?

I see that you have bounty campaign going on for some time,but do you plan to have some airdrop too?Thats popular way lately,to spread the awareness about the project.

It says on your website  that sale starts in approximately 3 days.Did you have any kind of private sale round,before crowdsale,as in the title it says soft cap almost reached?

A project like this will definitely reach the cap, did they write somewhere that they're near?

They could rethink their plan and make a new strategy, the try to make the best with what's been raised.

There needs to be a proof, this is a silly question.Even when you bet with your friend there needs to be a proof in the end to be able to know who wins the bet...

That would be nice, to offer something to people that like live action more as surely they bet more aggressively and more actively throughout the day.Like lower fees maybe?

What happens If I place like really big bet and there's not much people that can match me? Does my bet stay "online" until someone can match me? Or what if I place that kind of bet and the betting event expires before someone matches me - does fee happen in this situations or not?

I saw that it was mention that you can put a wager, but that you can also take a role of a Judge.Will Judge role act as some kind mediator that proof check the result of bet or something similar?Not quite sure I understood properly what was that about...

I'm just reading the Whitepaper and learning about the project and it seems that Judge role is:

A user of the platform that is responsible for confirming an outcome of an Event that the Wager was created for, as well as resolve Challenges that arise in Wagers created by Operators.

Don't know how that will work, but that's what I got...

Its in the thread title,it says "softcap almost reached",thats why i assumed its a certain thing.

Where exactly is your team headquarters,some place where most of the team is?

Realy interesting project! Will wayting dor main sale!

I about the given project in general have learned or have found out from the friends, they spoke about it or him, that he in the future will be known
merrculet

I think reaching the soft cap is not questionable ;)

So, regardless of what the betting result is known to everyone, that is, an indisputable fact... 

Live betting is one of the most exciting betting types, I believe the team will devote special attention to this segment

Yes,seems to me too,team is too good and too experienced in the field,to not reach atleast soft cap.And after that it will be much easier,as thats the and biggest goal during ICO stage.

Are you planning to develop a mobile application sometime in the future?

Well,according to their roadmap,there should be mobile application out,i think sometimes during Q4.Roadmap is a bit confusing,so im not 100% thats when app is out.

According to their whitepaper,if soft cap is not reached(8500 ETH),all funds will be returned to the investors.

"Since we are aimed at creating a fully functional ecosystem that will evolve and continue to grow, in case Soft Cap is not reached, all contributions will be returned to the token sale participants."



So no worries,either way investor funds are safe!

Too bad, I thought they would be searching for some additional investors or some new possibilities of financing the project.

If you haven't already, check this nice short video of PoT CTO explaining what the project is all about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgetSFfnL8

Nice one, thank you for the share. They should do more of those, short ones, long ones, interviews, whatever.

And does anybody know if they will have an iOS app out first or an Android one?

Well, that really depends on what territory they want to spread first. iOS is more popular in NA while Android is a big thing in Europe and Asia. Isn't NA now enforcing some ICO restrictions?

There are some restrictions getting passed by Facebook and I know NA is not the most welcoming to crypto, not like South Korea. But what makes sense they go out with just one so they can concentrate their efforts on developing for that platform.

Is development that different? I am not a dev so I really don't know, but if it is it would make sense to pick one and stick with it.

In case the Soft Cap is not reached all purchases will be returned to purchasers .

PROOF OF TOSS utilizes the “Prisoner’s Dilemma” by randomly picking events for every Judge and requiring that every Judge makes a deposit of their own TOSS tokens in order to participate. This deposit is used to determine the judges reward as well as incentivize the Judge to be as fair in their judging as possible, through negative reinforcement in the form of fear of losing their deposit.
Depending on who has created a Wager, PROOF OF TOSS allows two approaches to determining the winning Bets:
JUDGING AND SOLVING CHALLENGES
1. When it comes to our solution for bookmakers, the Operator is responsible for delivering the correct result of an event. If the Operator fails to bring the correct
result, players will have the opportunity to initiate a Challenge and, thus, start the DCJ mechanism.

2. Our peer-to-peer solution is completely decentralized and thus all arguable actions are taken by reaching consensus. The PROOF OF TOSS ecosystem, both rewards those users acting in good faith and punishes those that try to manipulate results in their favor. When it comes to determining which Bet won, the system initiates it’s Distributed Crowd Judge mechanism, which randomly selects Wagers for Judges. The Judge has to make a deposit, review the Event and choose an outcome from a selection of options that are available for each particular Wager. Once consensus is reached the result is published to the Wager, all Players who won, the Originator and those Judges that voted for the majority result are rewarded.

We are working on it;)

sure, but if it's a bet someone who is neutral has to way-out the proof om case of dispute, no?

I don't know if the project currently has any competition, but it seems like a solid project which will be awesome in the future.

I would say yes - but who would that person be and how does it work?

I think there was private salle before,and that soft cap is almost reached during that round.Presale should start in a few days i think

That's great news that they almost reached the soft cap in the private sale. Makes me think that they might even hit the hard cap at this pace.

I'm sure the soft cap will be realized, the information that the funds invested will be returned to investors if the project fails in some way assures investor confidence in the early stage of the project.

But is there any info how much exactly is raised during that private sale phase?

With regard to the targeted market, they should simultaneously develop an app for both platforms.

Thats true,android holds majority of the market.Maybe web version would be solution,that way you would cover both mobile platforms,and computers as well,so everyone can join.

Nice! Good to see some marketing coming through from the team side as marketing is extremely important these days!

Thanks for the clarification regarding the Judge role as that was a bit confusing.

Yeah that is a important bit of information when considering project evolution.Hopefully not too much was raised from private sale, it is much better for projects if more money comes from crowdsale as that means more people are into project.

Just found this article and rating of TOSS on ICOBench.Solid, but could be better rating if you ask me.Deserves a solid 4.

https://icobench.com/ico/toss

There is that info already,its there in the first post,here is the quote:

"With 5m USD worth of tokens sold at private sale already, we are so close to reaching our soft cap. "

Looks good and I also agree that the rating should be a bit higher from my point of view.Just checked the team a bit and spotted one really good looking member there :D  ;D

https://icobench.com/u/iryna-rybalchenko - part of marketing section of the team

This project "looks" even better now :D :D

Its really encouraging to see that TOSS almost reached soft cap during private sale,it will be much easeir for the team,as most important thing for any ICO is to reach soft cap.

I would say the most important thing is to have the best possible product and have a strong marketing presence so you get your idea out and bring investors in.

It is no wonder, really. This kind of project i sure to be lucrative and the team is pretty serious.

Yes,soft cap gives you security,and time to keep developing product without huge amount of pressure,and its first big test for any project.

I saw this on your FB page: “The amount of money wagered in online gambling worldwide is $550 billion USD. Market cap of all cryptocurrencies is $325 billion. Expected penetration of cryptocurrency as the currency of choice for online gambling is close to 100 percent.”

This is a huge market!

But the pressure is still present because the main goal should be the hard cap as that gives you the most amount of freedom with your product and lets you experiment with additional features that might not be in the first plan.

They can always find private investors with a project such as this... from the beginning of time betting has been a business that makes a lot of money.

Yup, this is the kind of project where I don't worry if the soft cap will be reached, rather when the hard cap will be reached.

Yes,and blockchain technology is perfect for something like betting,as it offers you security and anonimity.

It will be very successful to combine blockchain with such secretive items as bets.

Without good marketing and especially public relations today it is difficult to break through regardless of product quality.

Yes in the current crypto market, marketing is atleast important as the product, maybe even more important at the beginning, and without that part done properly, chances for success are not very good.

I agree, at this stage in crypto market, marketing is a very large part of the job, it would dare to argue that in some cases it is even crucial for the success of project.

What's the situation on the market, do you have any serious competition?

As far as I know, the application of gambling is not in line with the laws of various countries, and it is difficult to be listed on exchange. There is a known WGR.

What do you mean by WGR? Can you please explain it pls?  :)

I see that public sale starts tomorrow. Whats the bonus amount for these first few days?

I know there is a platform called Wagerr that has a similar concept, but I'm not sure what that has to do with gambling laws.

Usually,bonus is best at the beginning,so its best to join sale as soon as possible.Im sure it will be like that with Proof of Toss as well.

Thank you for all your support!:)

Bonuses are either volume based - for purchases over 71 ETH you will receive a 30% bonus during the public token sale. Or if your purchase amount is lower than that you will receive a 15% bonus on the first day of the token sale. 10% on the second and third days of the token sale, or 5% bonus on the 4th - 5th - 6th and 7th days of the token sale

Is there some maximum amount one can invest?Or there is no cap?

I like the bonus structure very much.Bonus is big  enough to make people invest early,but in the same time not too big to cause dumping later on when you get listed on exchanges.

Regarding the bonus percentages it would make much more sense to invest above the minimum. It would be beneficial in the long run.

When does the sale start? Do I have to register or I can just buy on the fly?

Starts in around 18 hours and you have to be whitelisted. Check out their homepage, you will find all the info there. https://toss.pro/

Some projects think they can boost up bonuses and attract users but what they are doing is getting a bunch of people that will dump as soon as the project goes public. What you need are long-time users and supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-uZ3NLDufg

A short explanation about POT.

Hehe now I gathered what kind of POT you mean ;D thanks for the share, this is a really great short video - easy to understand.

Sure, some teams might be doing this to get a quick buck, but if you are doing serious business then you have to think longevity, and you can't have that by getting those same quick buck people on board. What you want to do is build a community of long-lasting users. That's the only way the stock will rise.

Its stated that everyone who joins the sale will get extra 1000 TOSS tokens.Does that mean that everyone will get 1000,even those who invest minimum amount?

Indeed, a stable customer base community with a potential of a constant growth is desirable for each crypto based project

Well,not exactly everyone,first you have to get whitelisted,and amount is capped at first 10000 who do that.So better hurry if you want to  claim those 1000  tokens.

You mention that platform takes no commission, I'm interested in how you will maintain the system?

Maybe it takes a percentage from each bet placed.

Yes,KYC is needed,but that shouldnt worry you,Its done very fast,and its there for project protection.

Just another things that tells me that this team is  thinking anout long term success!

What i didnt get is if your presale starts tomorrow,or regular sale?

I know  you had private sale round,but which one is next one?

I think it's sale that starts tomorrow, crowdsale.

Yeah really nice bonus, not too much, not too small! Big bonuses are often not good in general!

I agree, the distribution of the bonus is cleverly designed, I am convinced that it will attract a significant number of investors.

Hehehehe, jokes aside, really good that these things are coming out and informing people.

That is ok, even if everyone gets 1000 tokens for minimum.Investing is investing after all and some will invest smaller amount at first and later join in with more funds.

It really gives great bonuses for early investors and can definitely attract a huge amount of interest.

13 hours and counting :D Almost there, already got everything set to jump in :D

Is there any info how many people whitelisted so far?

Afaik the sale has started today... hope it eill be successful for the team. The cap is in sight,guys.

Sale starts in abit less than 3 hours,according to the countwdown on their website.I have my ETH ready :D

Hehe this will surely be a profitable purchase for anyone involved. Gear up!

Yes, its always the best to invest early during ICO, as bonuses are the best during that period so better be fast people! Early birds gets a worm :D

And dont forget that first 10000 that get whitelisted get extra 1000 TOSS tokens,one more reason to join immediately ,as 1000 TOSS is  worth 0.1 ETH,so its a nice bonus!

No one wants to miss a good project, especially for products that have already made some achievements.

So you get 1000 TOSS even if you invest minimum amount ?Thats pretty good deal,if thats the case!

That's a bonus on top of a bonus :) They are really going all out with this.

Regarding this sale,are  there any restrictions based on country of residence,or anyone can join ICO and invest?

Did the whitelisting option run out or is it still possible?

Nice video that explains what PROOF OF TOSS is all about!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-uZ3NLDufg

Yeah, unfortunately citizens of United States of America,Singapore, Canada and Hong Kong are not able to participate in sale.

Sale has finally started :D

30% Bonus if you buy over 71 ETH worth of TOSS , so nice.Don't have that much but I'm happy even with 10% bonus myself.Few referrals and there we go :D

Is there any bonus for referrals also? Wish I could grab that 30% bonus.Are those bonuses gonna be locked for some time to avoid people dumping as soon as TOSS gets listed on exchanges?

Day 1 bonus is actually 15%,not 10%.

And dont forget the 1000 TOSS extra that you  get no matter how much you invest!

I think that only team tokens are locked,so all that join the sale can do with their tokens whatever they want after they get them :)

After we buy tokens,when can we expect them in our own personal wallet?Just bought some,15% bonus and extra 1000 TOSS was too good to pass!

Exactly, first 10000 that get whitelisted get extra 1000 TOSS tokens, irrespective of the amount of tokens they have bought. It's a great bonus!

Thank you for sharing that,its really convenient to be able to see current sale status.It should encourage others to invest!

For those that are not sure how to join the sale,and what exactly to do,here is a nice guide that explains everything

https://medium.com/proof-of-toss/how-to-buy-toss-tokens-ec24ce819948

Thanks for sharing!

Finally sale day :D Good to see lots of people excited. Time to grab that 15% bonus and extra 1000 TOSS :D

Are we gonna be able to receive TOSS to Metamask wallet?

When exactly do we get those 1000  toss tokens, after we join the sale? Is it immediately, or sometimes later?

Great  news everyone,just found this on ther telegram group:

"NO MORE RESTRICTIONS FOR CANADA!!!

Hi everybody! We have great news for you!

After the debates with our legal department, we have come to an agreement to lift the restrictions from residents of Canada.

Wish you great purchases!

Yours,
PROOF OF TOSS team"

Still - that's quite a reward for big spenders!

Is there a whitelist for the purchases?

The sale has started - any info on how it is proceeding? I expect huge success today.

Dpes anyone know until when the sale lasts?

The sale lasts until 24.6.2018

Feel free to check on the official site for the update ;)

You have to register. It's on this link https://sale.toss.pro/register

Plenty of time to join, however, it would be better to do is as soon as possible when the prices are low.

Yes,its best to join as soon as possible,as im sure that 1000 TOSS wont be available for too long,as its for only first 10000 sale participants.

Do you have bounty campaign going on maybe?

Check out this bounty thread, they have a lot going on. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2890076.new#new

Great,thank you for sharing that,looks like a very popular bounty campaign,gonna join too,its easy tokens :)

Hi there! You supposed to receive your tokens right after the purchase,however you will get your extra 1000 TOSS tokens after the end of Token Sale.

HI! You will get your free tokens as soon as the Token Sale will end.
Thanks

OK great, I plan to hodl  tokens anyway, till moon, so I can wait.:D

I have high hopes for TOSS!

Is current phase presale,or main sale phase?

Do you accept credit cards by any chance,for this sale?

I would say main sale because public sale started ysesterday.

We are currently on a main sale phase.
Today and tomorrow - bonus 10%

We currently accept ETH only.

Still good bonus i think,so plenty of reasons to join.And if you add that 1000 TOSS  on top of that,you get really good amount of tokens for free.

And what is even more important,bonus is not too big to cause dumping after reaching exchanges,and thats what most of the other ICOs are doing-giving crazy bonuses,and then bragging about reaching hard cap.And fun lasts till exchange,then its back to reality.

I know about that 5M$,  But can i know that price when private sale or public sale ?

I think everyone can see from a mile away that it is going to be highly profitable.

Is it still 10 % bonus on purchase or is it lower now already?

Exactly, these bonuses are quite right.Not too big, not too small.Dumping is a big issue for tons of projects that give too much bonus.

Yeah bonus is still 10% today and tomorrow, then after that it drops to 5%. So you have enough time to get that bonus :D

This is good news, so more people will potentially be able to join in on the project and invest.It would be great if restricitions coulde be removed for other countries too.

Same here :D A bit of work and you get free tokens and this project will be great so it makes sense to put in some work in :D

Do i get 1000 toss tokens even if i invest only minimum amount,or there is some  higher required amount of ETH i have to invest in order to get that bonus?

Great news, people from Canada will surely be a significant players in this project regarded to the country's economic situation.

Yes, but only if are in first 10000 that get whitelisted ;)

I didn't know Canada had some limitations. Great to hear they have been lifted.

A slow start doesn't mean the sale is doomed. Let's hope they're just keeping the info to themselves.

aha so you need to be in top 10k to get the big bonus. Thanks!

I believe this will have a positive effect on the sale of tokens  ;D

Until you get into you just don't know what limitations your region has, and that's frustrating :) At the moment I personally just can't tell if we will have more limitations in the future or less. It's a coin toss.

I hope everybody follows in the path of South Korea, they are lifting their restrictions.

Thank you for your support!

How is sale going so far,are you satisfied?

Also,i heared you had issue with KYC first day,is it sorted now?I hope it is as this is great project and i really hope you suceed!

This seems like a great project, let's hope that it will succeed. The team gave me confidence in that department

Dear community!
We have made a tough decision to pause our token sale for a period of up to 2 months. We are developing the MVP, and it will be ready in 2-4 weeks. We have been working hard on PROOF OF TOSS, and to this date, the project was fully bootstrapped, we have a lot of skin in the game and don’t want to lose it due to minor issues that can be solved within a short period.

ALL ETH WILL BE RETURNED TO THOSE WHO BOUGHT TOSS TOKENS WITHIN 1 WEEK AFTER THE SMART CONTRACT CLOSES.

We have a series of announcements for the upcoming weeks that will prove that PROOF OF TOSS is a viable project with a solid use case model and a bright future ahead. Stay tuned and follow our project.

Thank you for believing in PROOF OF TOSS!

To get more information follow the link
https://medium.com/proof-of-toss/proof-of-toss-suspends-the-token-sale-for-two-months-5ff5ff3b6a82

Im sure that wasnt an  easy decision,but sometimes you gotta regroup,and try again.I wish you good luck,and ill keep an eye on your project for sure.

Minor setbacks and issues always happen along the way.I'm sure you will be able to sort it all out and come back stronger and make this project successful despite this minor hiccup.

Polish Ann Thread DONE -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3650648.msg36690673#msg36690673

The project has a slight delay, but that's why it needs more stuff like this, just to show that it's still moving in the right direction. It can't hurt and it will definitely get some more eyes on the project.

Yeah, exactly as you said, it is a bit of delay, but good to see people are still participating and hopefully a bit more exposure will help the project to move on and successfully raise funds to kick off and make it work.

Imagine there is a locally interesting event that you would like to bet on. Let's say you are a local citizen who calls out the meteorologists for a weather forecast competition!
#PROOFOFTOSS peer-to-peer solution is made exactly to cater you in the situations like that! If you like the idea – follow the link to read more in a new use case:
https://medium.com/proof-of-toss/use-case-competition-between-hans-and-the-meteorological-center-7eca4b60cd95

 This is the so-called revolution in the betting world, since the topic of fraud in this area is very high and it needs to be removed once and for all. Blockchain perfectly copes with this task. The foundation that laid the leadership, is able to bring in the first lists of projects on the world stage, thanks to the conditions and the natural use of blocking technology.

Thank you for your support!

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https://icocalendar.ru/ico_listing/proof-of-toss/

Thank you

Hey,  best plan.... guaranteed savings.... I'm putting all my investments to it.... and I'm damn sure I won't loose a single penny.

People love to gamble and this would allow more transparency and fairness. Good use of blockchain in an industry that benefits immensely from it.

Thank you!

Nice to see that you guys managed to regroup and are starting project all over again with updated Whitepaper,as an avid gambler im always interested in these kind of projects,so looking forward to more news,and maybe market situation will be better this time! When can we expect more details regarding start of public sale,and do you plan for new bounty campaign?

Looking forward to seeing their system when its ready. I also think the team's experience in the gaming industry will provide them with an edge.

This industry is similar to financial services on the Blockchain - it is becoming quite saturated and creating differentiation will be a key factor of new market entrants. It would be interesting to see how partnerships are developed to create a global awareness and reach of the project.

Despite of so many competitors and online casinos already, I think this project is the best so far. Since betting industry has huge market, the high quality platform of Proof of Toss can really stand out in the sketchy world of bad quality online gambling sites and win the trust of users.

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