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Title: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Vindberg on May 03, 2018, 09:36:04 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ctn on May 03, 2018, 10:32:55 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Indrawan77 on May 04, 2018, 12:44:27 AM
I think we are not arriving at that stage yet, at this time we still struggle with the government regulation and how to make bitcoin to be mass adopted so the price fluctuations could be controlled, how to create a fast and cheap transaction, many stores complained that the btc price is too fluctuate and they can't predicted their profit and if the price fluctuate too much its very inconvenient for them to accept crypto, when this thing could be settled then we will enter the infrastructure stage which is the wifi and the wallet setting


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: no0dlepunk on May 04, 2018, 03:49:50 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Similar to this happens in coins.ph; I store my bitcoins in this app, and then it gives me lists of merchants that accept payment from them in Philippine Peso. Once I have decided which item to purchase, coins.ph converts my bitcoin into local currency and then sends payment to the merchant. It made it simple rather than cashing out.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Falmera on May 04, 2018, 03:57:19 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.
You are absolutely correct! It is hassle free if we just need our cellphone, the internet connection but as to the proces it might take time. There are just things in this world that crypto currency will not make it easier, just like what you said, purchasing a coffee, or anything that can be quickly done with our fiat money. Most especially when there is a problem with the internet connection.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Vindberg on May 04, 2018, 08:39:49 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.

I looks like the lightning network could make the transaction fast as any VISA payment and function offline with later synchronization. Its true that merchants lack integration with the old systems - Not seeing anyone doing this besides maybe https://utrust.com/ (https://utrust.com/).

V.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: pat4cryptoreal on May 04, 2018, 09:44:15 AM
Making cryptocurrency widely acceptable by merchant is possible, The responsibility is on the developer of blockchain, cryptocurrency fans, cryptocurrency investors and government. The merchants are scared because of some drastic fluctuation in price which may affect their income. Most time cryptocurrency fans will spread FUD that cause fluctuation, The developers have to make the transaction to go through within some seconds. Government should stop the banning and regulation issues. The sky will not even be the limit of the rate of acceptance of cryptocurrency by merchants.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ArteMixer on May 04, 2018, 09:46:36 AM
Yeah, i agree it is still very rusty and needs many improvements to the system to be properly functional. But there are already numerous services providing payments with bitcoin and etherium, so we have some first steps in the right direction.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Panpan66L on May 04, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
I am trying right now to aggregate as many coins of alternative currencies as I can now to have a great benefit in future


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: JoshuaBlack1 on May 04, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)


https://www.coindesk.com/lightning-nfc-new-plan-bring-bitcoin-retail/


I think this article touches on wider adoption and some potential methods we could use to get there. I think a standardised protocol would have to be introduced in order to reach the mainstream adoption we all want to see. I have no doubt these things will be developed. It's easy to get caught up in the bubble within cryptocurrency but we are still extremely early and allot of the infrastructure still hasn't been developed


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BillCoin on May 04, 2018, 10:27:56 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
It's not about wallets, I think that if we are looking at wallet's perspectives then the bitcoin's community is pretty good at this, we have about 10-15 different wallet available for each kind of  operating system, most of the wallets are open source and bugs are being found really fast by the community, active contributes are available at most of the wallet's githubs channels, and UI is easy.
We should work on spreading the word other then producing more wallets systems.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: hase0278 on May 04, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
What else needs to happen besides regulation?
What needs to happen for crypto to succeed in the real world besides regulation is not a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard(since that would make btc centralized), but the instantaneous transaction speed that takes 5 minutes at most to get confirmations for it to be usable by merchants and their customers. One way to achieve it IMO is doing transactions using the same wallet(for example coinbase to coinbase) for an almost instant transaction speed.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: fiulpro on May 04, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
Having an app to send  by customers and a merchant app for the store owners wont suffice the task of transaction with bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency.
Just because the customera are ready with an app to pay, ut is not necessary that the store owners will come with with the acceptance.

It all depends on the nod from government for such transactions to be called legal tender.
The store owners need to keep record of every sale they do for taxation purposes and unless government allows such transaction, the store owner cannot simply recieve bitcoins as a payment.

For sending it among friends and relatives it is a normal thing, but cryptos to be used as a legal tender in daily day to day transactions would require more secure and backed platform than what it is right now.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: 1Referee on May 04, 2018, 12:25:35 PM
One way to achieve it IMO is doing transactions using the same wallet(for example coinbase to coinbase) for an almost instant transaction speed.

We don't need centralized services for that. If that's your way to 'achieve' your goal, then what's the point of using crypto at all? One could just keep using PayPal's platform to move value back and forth.

LN is going to bring what we want, and it's just a matter of time. If enough merchants are on board in your local area, you could connect to them and start moving value back and forth instantly, and that without needing centralized services. The only thing we need is clients making it easy for everyone to participate, and once that's the case, mass adoption will follow. Our aim should be to distance ourselves from everything that's centralized, not to get further stuck into it as you are suggesting.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Quraline on May 04, 2018, 12:29:20 PM
Visa and MasterCard should add the ability to pay with cryptocurrency from their cards. I wonder how soon they'll do it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dothebeats on May 04, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

Even if these mobile wallets have crypto wallets installed and have balances on them, where would those be used? The cryptospace is nothing but a speculative paradise for traders and fat hopefuls alike. Merchants are too scared to touch bitcoin due to its volatility, so even if there's people who have the currency, what good can it do to crypto especially if these people decided to sell their cryptoassets?

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?

1. That means wealth distribution, and no, that wouldn't even help on widespread adoption. People can just sell their bags knowing that it has value and just stick to fiat.
2. Aren't they doing that already?
3. There isn't enough interest for the merchants to accept bitcoin ATM, but that idea has already been brought up should there be a surge of merchants wanting to get paid with bitcoin.

Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

We don't need any wallet alliance of some sort to help with adoption. Regulations help the cryptospace mature; it is a vital component of adoption but that isn't enough. People need reasons to come into the cryptospace, and places to spend is really the thing we need right now to get that adoption going.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: DonateBB on May 04, 2018, 01:10:48 PM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jseverson on May 04, 2018, 01:43:43 PM
I'd say a wallet standard being established would contribute to Bitcoin's utility. It's often criticized for being too complicated or having bad user experience in general. If pretty much all wallets worked the same, then it should tone down criticisms on that end.

I don't know if a merchant app is completely necessary though. I mean, it probably is for large chains, but small stores should be able to get away with simply using a wallet app of their own.

That being said, I'd say it's too soon to address this problem because the network can't even handle large scale demand in the first place lol. Lightning could very well be the answer to both scalability and usability if it matures well.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: arthotdog on May 04, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.
Technologies qbout crypto is more than enough to sustain all the needs of the people in the world,whats the problem is the People needs to adapts crypto in their daily lives and this must be addressed,if people in the world will only use lall the technologies offered by crypto world,well maybe success in everything inside this community is indeed


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: stompix on May 04, 2018, 04:05:57 PM
Similar to this happens in coins.ph; I store my bitcoins in this app, and then it gives me lists of merchants that accept payment from them in Philippine Peso. Once I have decided which item to purchase, coins.ph converts my bitcoin into local currency and then sends payment to the merchant. It made it simple rather than cashing out.

You realize that you're actually using a bank, that is actually exchanging your coins at a rate for fiat and pays in fiat?
What control do you have over that wallet and the coins in it? None!
Tomorrow they can get "hacked" and your coins are gone.

Visa and MasterCard should add the ability to pay with cryptocurrency from their cards. I wonder how soon they'll do it.

Just as the guy above.
I'm really amazed how easy you guys can hand over your bitcoins to a company without thinking it over at least once.
What would change then? How it would be different from paying with a normal cc with fiat money




Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: laravuemaster on May 04, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

There are already applications that are connections similar in your examples, exchangers like kucoin and etheredelta are one of the cyrptocurrency market that has this kind of setup in their system.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Flagship11 on May 04, 2018, 04:11:15 PM
Crypto is currently succeeding in the real world, but not quite yet on a global platform.
While BTC and other cryptos are currently hot topic of discussion on the news and in the media, we still have some time to go before it is common talk in conversations.
Today if I talk about BTC, sadly most people aren't familiar.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: rafaelyarulin on May 04, 2018, 07:07:51 PM
The crypto market will definitely develop. There is probably almost no doubt about it. Even those who used to consider bitcoin and any other coin as "bubble" understand that they simply have no arguments for such claims. Demand for digital coins is growing, and the law of supply and demand has not been canceled.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: supermine on May 04, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Having the crypto currency wallets installed on every mobile doesn't means that adoption we need to use it as a mode of payment but there is problem is the waiting time,normally the confirmations take upto 30 minutes so you will wait in that shop for the confirmations to complete and the shop owner will have so many other works than watching the confirmation time of each customers,so the LN need to be implemented soon to be used as mode of payment.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BillCoin on May 04, 2018, 07:25:34 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Having the crypto currency wallets installed on every mobile doesn't means that adoption we need to use it as a mode of payment but there is problem is the waiting time,normally the confirmations take upto 30 minutes so you will wait in that shop for the confirmations to complete and the shop owner will have so many other works than watching the confirmation time of each customers,so the LN need to be implemented soon to be used as mode of payment.

We can't adopt LN  yet because it requires ALL the nodes to support it, the current soft fork turned out to be no the only thing that is required in order to run the LN network.
Also, LN network will act the same as Public ICOs or decentralized exchanges, if we won't achieve a large amount of users ,the network is going to be worthless.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: senne on May 04, 2018, 08:56:40 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

These three points seem to be just an introduction for crypto world but I believe there is much more to think upon it, First of all you are perfectly right that we still need to work upon making crypto succeed in real world. But, how can we make this possible ?

I believe the answer lies around us only, I believe there are many users on this forum from every country. They should try to spread the word of crypto around their families and friend and help them understand the system properly so that they won't fall in any trap. This thing will help growth of crypto at massive scale as this will also increase the adoption of crypto as payment system. But before all this one major step that needs to be taken is by the government of that country as until and unless government stands for crypto and give it green signal 70% users will resit to join this market.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: redcucumber on May 04, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
I see that there will be not much of a problem if people will adopt to crypto infact they want a safer payment than cash yet card was introduce by banks where they can have payments later or now in crypto you won't be needing any card just qr code, address will do everything will be digital and fast its like you owned your own bank.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Hydrogen on May 04, 2018, 10:16:30 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Awhile ago, there were headlines in the news regarding "700 million android phones" having backdoors pre-installed on them by china:

Quote
Pre-installed Backdoor On 700 Million Android Phones Sending Users' Data To China

WASHINGTON — For about $50, you can get a smartphone with a high-definition display, fast data service and, according to security contractors, a secret feature: a backdoor that sends all your text messages to China every 72 hours.

Security contractors recently discovered preinstalled software in some Android phones that monitors where users go, whom they talk to and what they write in text messages. The American authorities say it is not clear whether this represents secretive data mining for advertising purposes or a Chinese government effort to collect intelligence.

International customers and users of disposable or prepaid phones are the people most affected by the software. But the scope is unclear. The Chinese company that wrote the software, Shanghai Adups Technology Company, says its code runs on more than 700 million phones, cars and other smart devices. One American phone manufacturer, BLU Products, said that 120,000 of its phones had been affected and that it had updated the software to eliminate the feature.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html

Before cell phones could be utilized as a major hub of finance, a more concentrated effort could be required to secure them. Better standardized practices to better eliminate data mining and backdoors. Of course, this could be impossible given backdoors are sometimes included by state intelligence/surveillance and there is a push for large corporations like apple to utilize weaker encryption standards (or no standards) on products like iphone.

I like that someone is thinking about ways to encourage crypto mass adoption.

Maybe if every active person on this forum told 10 people they know about bitcoin, and those 10 people each told 10 of their friends about it, some type of viral campaign could be worked out?

I've tried to do it in the past. I tried to give people I know bitcoin for free in the hope that they would use it and maybe see its not that bad a thing. Maybe they would even like it and use it in the future. Not a single person accepted the free btc I wanted to give them. lol I guess they are too nice or maybe I look like a nigerian prince?


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Thian778 on May 04, 2018, 10:53:15 PM
Business transaction starts with simple conversation between seller and possible buyer, then price and product negotiation comes, lastly they will come to both agreements and terms, I think your referring to this things, anything could possibly goes as smooth as long as two parties agreed when involving crypto into their agreement.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Reid on May 04, 2018, 11:09:21 PM
You just said all the problems that is happening now or what is lacking in the crypto world specially merchants.

Agreements and KYC's, this all should be done just so they could move forward.
Look at what they did with trading websites. Those are already examples of what will happen to merchants. How could they go on if with every transaction there will be tax that will go with it which should not be happening because that is the way bitcoin is made.

I dont think this will happen soon.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Vaskiy on May 04, 2018, 11:18:30 PM
What crypto has attained till date from the day of its existence itself a good success. Now, slowly things were getting advanced with majority of the countries focus on digital growth. As a part I expect crypto adoption to take place in a large scale than that of the present.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: pitiflin on May 04, 2018, 11:57:16 PM
At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.
1. Okay? For that people need to know how to use bitcoin.
2. They definitely won't agree with a standard protocol. There are patent laws and legal issues.
3. I believe there are tons of icos doing that. But don't know which one is legit.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: drachman on May 05, 2018, 02:35:36 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Those are not bad ideas but I do not think it's going to work for several reasons, first of all you want cryptocurrency wallets installed in every single phone, but if my phone came with an application like that and I didn't use cryptocurrencies I'll just uninstall it, second we do not need adoption of crypto wallets we need adoption of cryptocurrencies, if I am not holding cryptocurrency I do not need a wallet, and for your second and third point I do not think that is really necessary.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TTITA on May 05, 2018, 03:01:07 AM
Previously, many retailers accepted Bitcoin as payments like overstock, newegg, etc. I think this is already in the adoption, but the tax regulation is not there so many merchants are still hesitant to continue this step. I think to realize this certainly is not as easy as expected, there is still much need for improvement from crypto to be more easily accepted by everyone and time.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: boboking on May 05, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Those are not bad ideas but I do not think it's going to work for several reasons, first of all you want cryptocurrency wallets installed in every single phone, but if my phone came with an application like that and I didn't use cryptocurrencies I'll just uninstall it, second we do not need adoption of crypto wallets we need adoption of cryptocurrencies, if I am not holding cryptocurrency I do not need a wallet, and for your second and third point I do not think that is really necessary.

Yes I agree, this type of ideology may work in a perfect world but in the real world this is not going to happen.

For the questions- ICO have been doing this, they are trying to create wallets for their own coin. I have a lot of coins from bounties that have their own wallet.
Wallet alliance - I do not think that will work, but if you mean wallet that support multiple coins, I am using Jaxx and it supports multiple coins.
for the third question - I do not think it is going to ever happen.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PsylockReborn on May 05, 2018, 03:06:20 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

I can't wait for this to happen. The convenience and ease on purchasing just by using our smart phones but there are some downsides when it comes to transaction speed and could possibly be charged of high transaction fees. Hoping that there's a real crypto that will be able to function and deliver as a currency not just a store of value or investment vehicle.
I know lots of innovations are still coming to try to perfect or correct the flaws of bitcoin as a currency so let's just wait patiently for that moment to come and enjoy its advantages and comfort that it come bring to all of us consumers.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Getcoinsite on May 05, 2018, 03:38:32 AM
The crypto market will definitely develop. There is probably almost no doubt about it. Even those who used to consider bitcoin and any other coin as "bubble" understand that they simply have no arguments for such claims. Demand for digital coins is growing, and the law of supply and demand has not been canceled.
With thousands or even hundred thousands of coins in crypto,i dont think the supply wasnt enough to sustain the demand even half of people in the world uses crypto.

And crypto will successfully pass the world in the near future,as the users continue to grow,and the technology continue to upgrading


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: KorakPawon on May 05, 2018, 03:41:14 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
I've heard this news, moreover the UEA and Russia will try to do this after they plan to adopt bitcoin, nothing is impossible there, it will happen only for a time not yet know when more precisely.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: squatz1 on May 05, 2018, 05:58:04 AM
The only thing which is going to push crypto into the real world is adoption, we have to make adoption easier and more accessible for businesses. Becuase changing from the bottom up doesn't seem to be working, and isn't going to be beneficial for companies. The only way this is going to work is if companies adopt bitcoin to accept it as a payment because they think they're going to be able to make more revenues or save on some expenses. If it is smart for companies to take crypto, and they're well informed on it, then they're going to do it.

We need adoption though.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 05, 2018, 10:28:47 AM
1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
It has increased for a very short period of time.
Bitcoin User Base Surges, Coinbase Adds 1 Mln Users in 1 Month (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-user-base-surges-coinbase-adds-1-mln-users-in-1-month)

2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
I doubt this will be agreed.

3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.
They can develop or use something that was being done or exposed on github but I don't know if they have to do this. Anyway they can simply receive payments and use their local exchange for integrating it with their accounting principles.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
None.

Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
You mean exchangers will agree which a standard principle for their wallets? I don't think so.

What else needs to happen besides regulation?
Movements to fight the fraudsters and fudsters peeps.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Vindberg on May 07, 2018, 08:40:03 AM

Awhile ago, there were headlines in the news regarding "700 million android phones" having backdoors pre-installed on them by china:

Quote
Pre-installed Backdoor On 700 Million Android Phones Sending Users' Data To China

WASHINGTON — For about $50, you can get a smartphone with a high-definition display, fast data service and, according to security contractors, a secret feature: a backdoor that sends all your text messages to China every 72 hours.

Security contractors recently discovered preinstalled software in some Android phones that monitors where users go, whom they talk to and what they write in text messages. The American authorities say it is not clear whether this represents secretive data mining for advertising purposes or a Chinese government effort to collect intelligence.

International customers and users of disposable or prepaid phones are the people most affected by the software. But the scope is unclear. The Chinese company that wrote the software, Shanghai Adups Technology Company, says its code runs on more than 700 million phones, cars and other smart devices. One American phone manufacturer, BLU Products, said that 120,000 of its phones had been affected and that it had updated the software to eliminate the feature.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html

Before cell phones could be utilized as a major hub of finance, a more concentrated effort could be required to secure them. Better standardized practices to better eliminate data mining and backdoors. Of course, this could be impossible given backdoors are sometimes included by state intelligence/surveillance and there is a push for large corporations like apple to utilize weaker encryption standards (or no standards) on products like iphone.

I like that someone is thinking about ways to encourage crypto mass adoption.

Maybe if every active person on this forum told 10 people they know about bitcoin, and those 10 people each told 10 of their friends about it, some type of viral campaign could be worked out?

I've tried to do it in the past. I tried to give people I know bitcoin for free in the hope that they would use it and maybe see its not that bad a thing. Maybe they would even like it and use it in the future. Not a single person accepted the free btc I wanted to give them. lol I guess they are too nice or maybe I look like a nigerian prince?

If phone security is still an issue, then we still need some kind of card or detached device like Ledger to do payment? Or maybe just use phones for smaller everyday payments and an extra device for large transactions, or a simple time-delayed "confirmation" from a third-party phone.

Sadly I didn't know you then when giving away free btc!!! :) I guess education of crypto needs to come before adoption.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Vindberg on May 07, 2018, 09:29:31 AM
Those are not bad ideas but I do not think it's going to work for several reasons, first of all you want cryptocurrency wallets installed in every single phone, but if my phone came with an application like that and I didn't use cryptocurrencies I'll just uninstall it, second we do not need adoption of crypto wallets we need adoption of cryptocurrencies, if I am not holding cryptocurrency I do not need a wallet, and for your second and third point I do not think that is really necessary.

Yes I agree, this type of ideology may work in a perfect world but in the real world this is not going to happen.

For the questions- ICO have been doing this, they are trying to create wallets for their own coin. I have a lot of coins from bounties that have their own wallet.
Wallet alliance - I do not think that will work, but if you mean wallet that support multiple coins, I am using Jaxx and it supports multiple coins.
for the third question - I do not think it is going to ever happen.
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Yes, I am talking about multi-currency crypto wallets. The question also remains, who will convert between crypto assets, the customer wallet or the merchant? It could be implemented at both ends I guess. Im trying to find those ICO's that are closing this loop from consumer to merchant.

Currently in Denmark, its the merchant that pays the fees for each transaction and usually 700 USD for a creditcard machine to get started + annual subscription fees. They would be interested in a cheaper solution. However, customers have not interest in holding crypto, unless they can get an interest rate on it? Currently its zero procent in the fiat bank!


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: kaya11 on May 07, 2018, 10:49:38 AM
This is something that would happen if there are no more regulations in the crypto market and all countries will adopt the payments via digital currencies-even the countries that are still developing. This is the ideal world that most of us wants and I hope and yearn for this day to happen. The new generations should be learning this new type of technology in that way they can carry the torch and pass it to the next one- innovated and modified better for a better world to use.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Idrisu on May 07, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
I think regulations and adoptions are the major things that need to be done if we are going to see cryptocurrencies been use by all works of life. Wallets providers need to come up with a good infrastructures that well influenced public adoptions because many people are arguing how comfortable it is for one to used bitcoin for petty transactions.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Xtrafa on May 07, 2018, 11:24:59 AM
I think in future bitcoin lead some parts of economical activities and many of countries are accept bitcoin one by one.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Wexnident on May 07, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.
You are absolutely correct! It is hassle free if we just need our cellphone, the internet connection but as to the proces it might take time. There are just things in this world that crypto currency will not make it easier, just like what you said, purchasing a coffee, or anything that can be quickly done with our fiat money. Most especially when there is a problem with the internet connection.

Well, the best important thing to make it  be possible to happen is the use and presence of the internet connections. No doubt, this will be a chance to happen but maybe it takes much more time because like what some other's said it is not an easy things and there's a lot of things that we needed to consider first. But if it will be happen, I believe that it makes benefits to us most specially in doing transactions.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: The Alchemlst on May 07, 2018, 03:06:39 PM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.

True, there are a lot of obstacles that cryptocurrencies need in order to overcome these challenges regarding its acceptability and I think it is still on its early age in that issues. First it should be able to breakthrough its barriers like internet connnection availability and tools/establishments that would provide bitcoin friendly experience then I guess everything will follow. Also they should be able to manage the high fees that we are experiencing in every transactions.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Domenc on May 07, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
I don't think why most of the people underestimate the power of internet and explaining that government has a subsequent hold upon internet and can easily block the crypto sites. Also, internet facility is still not available to large scale users which can also be disturbance for making crypto succeed. I think both mobile and internet should be accessible to everyone in order to make crypto succeed in real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ejanend on May 07, 2018, 09:34:30 PM
I think in future bitcoin lead some parts of economical activities and many of countries are accept bitcoin one by one.
If you ask my honest opinion in this matter, bitcoin does affect the economy of a country. As we all know that the economy of a country depends on the income of its individuals. If more people are earning then more stability is found in its finance. Bitcoin has provided job opportunities to thousands of people hence improving things a bit. But it is still unknown to majority of world population.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: GoldenLad on May 07, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
This may sound like a perfect idea, but this same idea may be a problem and probably increase crime because may arm robberies may want to stop people on the road and hold them at a gun point to forcefully collect their phone and demand for their coins. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency has been criticized by the government as being a promoter of crime, doing this may sound as making it more possible.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cryptomoon1004 on May 07, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
Ease of use is an important key point for ensuring that cryptos succedd in real world... Do check out TIP Blockchain which is working on the same


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: vintages on May 07, 2018, 10:59:17 PM
Your suggestions is really not a bad idea. But then, in other hand, it has a bad side, because, the  adoption of bitcoin or even any other cryptocurrency is really not by force or anything of such. Moreover,  you should know that most investors prefer to hold their coins in a very good secure hardware or wallet that is not easily accessed in anyway. Though it's impossible to get a 100% secured wallet but at least it's better than a radom app.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: kodtycoon on May 07, 2018, 11:06:26 PM
I think it's pretty hard to make a successful crypto in the real world, although it looks easy to apply in a payment method on the smartphone, but at least crypto must be supported first by the developers and also the government, because there are many who against the crypto in the real world, that's what kept him stuck so far.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: lehuong on May 08, 2018, 03:41:31 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.

I looks like the lightning network could make the transaction fast as any VISA payment and function offline with later synchronization. Its true that merchants lack integration with the old systems - Not seeing anyone doing this besides maybe https://utrust.com/ (https://utrust.com/).

V.
Want to make successful companies in this world is also a lot of problems in which to say is the first to build the legal framework on taxes, build more ctypto transaction machine ...


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Mancung on May 08, 2018, 03:46:50 AM
it is not simple as that.. as many regulations will follow after that, and not every country will approve it. To make it succeed in the real world, we going to need every country to accept that, and how could it happen when there is some countries has banned any transactions using cryptocurrencies ??


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: patarfweefwee on May 08, 2018, 04:03:06 AM
The solution is simple. The OP already laid it out. But then again it is not that easy. For example, adoption alone is hard to do. The volatility of crypto currency itself will deter owners to get them. A volatile currency means your services and good's price will also be volatile.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TonyFat on May 08, 2018, 06:04:36 PM
crypto currency will necessarily become popular, because these are new technologies that are safe and honest


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: drachman on May 08, 2018, 10:43:35 PM
The solution is simple. The OP already laid it out. But then again it is not that easy. For example, adoption alone is hard to do. The volatility of crypto currency itself will deter owners to get them. A volatile currency means your services and good's price will also be volatile.
The adoption of cryptocurrencies seems hard right now because most people are very comfortable with the current fiat economy but as soon as the system begins to fall, and unfortunately we do not know when that is going to happen, we're going to see fast adoption, at that point people will finally realize that they have been lied by their governments all their lives.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kray on May 09, 2018, 10:00:56 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
For now we haven’t arrived at that phase yet, maybe we should be patient waiting fork Bitcoin for Lightning Network so that at least transaction can be done as soon as possible. then the next problem is its volatility is very frightening to the merchant, whether we talk about fee or worrying the merchant is afraid if forgot to exchange his Bitcoin. But if we become sellers then we should use Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, as a support for wider application of Bitcoin with real action.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Elmughni on May 10, 2018, 12:28:01 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)


It is a good quote, I think it is still very rusty and needs many improvements to the system to be properly functional. But there are already numerous services providing payments with bitcoin and etherium, so we have some first steps in the right direction. we will see in the future, it will happen.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: EddyGameta on May 11, 2018, 12:41:39 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
The demand isn’t as big as the risk that they will face, it’s possible but we still have to be patient waiting for Lightning Network to be able to transact fast so the transaction in the store will not hung up just by 1 Bitcoin transaction only. But there is nothing wrong to invite or advise merchants to accept Bitcoin as a medium of exchange.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: eternalgloom on May 11, 2018, 01:51:20 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
The demand isn’t as big as the risk that they will face, it’s possible but we still have to be patient waiting for Lightning Network to be able to transact fast so the transaction in the store will not hung up just by 1 Bitcoin transaction only. But there is nothing wrong to invite or advise merchants to accept Bitcoin as a medium of exchange.


What are the risks that merchants face when implementing Bitcoin payments? I think it hold very little risk for merchants actually, since you don't have to deal with fraudulent chargebacks.
The thing that's stopping mass acceptance is that there are no clear regulations in many countries.

When Japan imposed clear rules around crypto and exchanges, adoption also increased. 


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Phildo on May 11, 2018, 05:23:37 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
We should focus more on Bitcoin acceptance on merchants instead of focusing on the wallet that already good on each platform and have its own community. While waiting for the Lightning Network is being developed we should try to submit it to several merchants and start with online merchants first, because it seems online merchants are easier to accept the submission.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: nabinkhadka on May 11, 2018, 05:39:10 PM

In my opinion,
To make Crypto succeed in the real world. We should first have stability of the price action more or less. Would you love to pay in BTC if it's price is at least 5-10 % Volatile a week ? My answer is no i would rather hold and  call this as store of value. And yes, We have other Cryptocurrency that can be used as  such. As we see, Block chain tech is already been started to be accept in the real world, i bet crypto currencies that solve real issue  will be in mass adoption in probably 10-15 years time frame.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ulticon on May 11, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
Storing the bitcoins on this app has made some things weird and not wanted.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: thecoder2017 on May 12, 2018, 03:10:03 AM
Some countries are already using bitcoin as payments in their transactions and maybe this is the first step or the beginning of having cryptocurrency in the real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: LieTOme on May 12, 2018, 03:19:41 AM
Some countries are already using bitcoin as payments in their transactions and maybe this is the first step or the beginning of having cryptocurrency in the real world.
the initial step of support from people grappling with support for cryptocurrency including legalizing is the evidence the country supports


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: GamerPapaRoach5 on May 12, 2018, 11:30:26 AM
Making it available on the merchant is completely possible and you can do it to.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Dudeperfect on May 12, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
At this stage, there is a misconception among the general people regarding cryptocurrency and it is very unfortunate to see that 6 out of 10 people hear about Bitcoin through any kind of scam and it creates misconception in their mind about the whole crypto industry and that is acting as the obstacle to mass adoption of cryptocurrencies as a whole. We need to work on building awareness about cryptocurrencies and explain the basics of cryptocurrencies to promote the understanding it. It's not forcing someone to use it but to explain to them what cryptocurrencies are all about and how it works and then letting them decide whether to get involved or not.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: necktiearrival0 on May 14, 2018, 12:46:48 AM
There are other ways to work and that makes the lighting transactions easy.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: kalawang on May 14, 2018, 01:48:57 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Collection of crypto make you rich someday. That os whats on my mind now. I want a more tokens so i can hold them. We will succeed we should wait for the right time to sell all of it. Someday all those early mornings and late nights will payoffs. We will be glad cause that day we will be successful


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cherrymobile on May 14, 2018, 01:58:27 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
I think cryptocurrencies are already successful in real world first there is a cryptocurrency everywhere. Second if cryptocurrencies are fake billionaires or. Millionaires because of Cryptocurrencies are also fake. We shouldn't make a money in cryptocurrencies when its already fake right


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Paul karet on May 14, 2018, 02:59:35 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.

I looks like the lightning network could make the transaction fast as any VISA payment and function offline with later synchronization. Its true that merchants lack integration with the old systems - Not seeing anyone doing this besides maybe https://utrust.com/ (https://utrust.com/).

V.
actually this kind of thing is a good goal and can happen, but it may take a long time.
as has been discussed. Internet connection is still not stable and uneven, this will be a barrier.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: wack slacker on May 14, 2018, 03:09:12 AM
Codecs now do not simply exist in the form of payments that represent a new technology, a company, an organization, and the promotion of social development. Ever since ETH came out and upgraded to the smartest version of the new technology, it's under development. I believe that by 2020 the crypto will become more common and solve many problems of the world. At the same time, the market capitalization of Crypto will be huge based on the value of crypto.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: meatygeiger on May 15, 2018, 12:41:07 PM
It is completely right and this has happened and it keeps on happening.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: futile-resistance on May 18, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
The demand isn’t as big as the risk that they will face, it’s possible but we still have to be patient waiting for Lightning Network to be able to transact fast so the transaction in the store will not hung up just by 1 Bitcoin transaction only. But there is nothing wrong to invite or advise merchants to accept Bitcoin as a medium of exchange.

I think they must taste the benefits of bitcoins in business. Bitcoins are creating so easy solutions to hundreds of the problems out there in business industry. You are even allowed to increase your investment and profits ratio just be indulging in bitcoins. Keep your business’s portion in bitcoins as well and get a boost of profit side by side as well. So yes, they must get into this.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: frowsiter on May 18, 2018, 09:11:10 AM
Wallet alliance? No man, its not about the wallet itself. Those things will never matter as they are just processes of transferring, storing and retrieving the info about the coin. Thats virtual thing, an android app for instance!

What really matters is government approval to all these things. As long as reserve bank of each nation dont come to the same page until then we are not going to see that one happening really. The wallet creation has become very easy these days and there are literally thousands of them both regulated and unregulated one.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: victoryana on May 18, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
To make the crypto a success in the real world, the hands of many of them are investors, bounty programs. ico and most importantly the members must jointly build them to become more useful to society


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BillCoin on May 18, 2018, 09:49:36 AM
Making cryptocurrency success in the real world means that you will get a lot of people to get to understand the benefits and find it really use, and finally adopt it for real world transactions.
We can achieve it by taking only bitcoin for the services that we offer, but it's really hard to do that because you will just end up converting the bitcoins into cash so most of the people won't mind to take cash directly.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: FrueGreads on May 18, 2018, 10:06:04 AM
I don't really think that the lack of adoption is related to wallet adoption or any kind of services/platforms related to wallets. I will only talk about bitcoin, because in my opinion is the closest crypto we have, that has a chance to become a currency. In order to BTC to be adopted by merchants it needs to solve the issues that are being talked about over and over again.

First it needs to solve scalability issues, and the lightning network will fix that soon.

Then it needs clear regulation, otherwise merchants won't be really comfortable in investing their money in order to create/adopt a payment service that could bring problems to them in the future.

Then it needs more liquidity in order to become less volatile. Of course this last one will solve itself once adoption starts to occur.

Finally it needs what the OP was mentioning, but I don't think an alliance it's needed or anything like that. We have services like pundi for example, that are creating a good platform for merchants to use crypto, and we probably have many more like then, and once all the other issues are solved, since everything is open source, we will get plenty of services popping up in no time, that are stable and user friendly.

I really think that what the OP was mentioning will be the last step in adoption, and it's an easy one to make.



Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: maianh09 on May 18, 2018, 10:11:05 AM
In my country, this happened when a large caffer store used Altcoin as a form of payment. These stores use an application from the developer to make payment transactions with other users. But then the government banned it and removed it for money laundering.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: KorakPawon on May 18, 2018, 01:38:58 PM
This is something that would happen if there are no more regulations in the crypto market and all countries will adopt the payments via digital currencies-even the countries that are still developing. This is the ideal world that most of us wants and I hope and yearn for this day to happen. The new generations should be learning this new type of technology in that way they can carry the torch and pass it to the next one- innovated and modified better for a better world to use.
I think that would not be possible even if all the countries have adopted crypto because of its electronic nature still there are many shortcomings in terms of security or technology.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: maculeth on May 18, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
This is something that would happen if there are no more regulations in the crypto market and all countries will adopt the payments via digital currencies-even the countries that are still developing. This is the ideal world that most of us wants and I hope and yearn for this day to happen. The new generations should be learning this new type of technology in that way they can carry the torch and pass it to the next one- innovated and modified better for a better world to use.
I think that would not be possible even if all the countries have adopted crypto because of its electronic nature still there are many shortcomings in terms of security or technology.
blockchain technology on crypto is already sophisticated and many countries admit it. only problem is the fluctuating crypto price and difficult to accept by many countries.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BlueStackz on May 19, 2018, 10:40:28 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Yay, wow… what you said really makes a lot of sense, but the problem is who will agree to do that? 😏For every phone to come with Bitcoin wallets pre-installed in them, I think it will require the approval of the companies that are running the software, just like Apple is in charge of IOS and Google is in charge of Android.

These companies will be the ones to approve it, but I don’t think they will ever have interest in doing that. By the way, you don’t things to make it seem like you’re forcing people to make use of Bitcoin, it has to do with choice and not by force. But you still have good idea., though I don’t fully support it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cherrymobile on May 19, 2018, 12:01:23 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
yes you would be successful if your token will become great and of course you have a concrete plan to for your token to succeed. your road map must be good for the eyes of investors so your token will be popular and you will be rich. people nowadays are want that token that they can use everyday  so make something useful token


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Eliyo on May 19, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Build confidence over the use of cryptocurrency. With regulation for economic stability comes infrastructural remodeling for uniformity and flexibility. So what need to happen beside regulation is building confidence that crypto can succeed in the real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Onyx0 on May 20, 2018, 07:29:46 PM
This is something that would happen if there are no more regulations in the crypto market and all countries will adopt the payments via digital currencies-even the countries that are still developing. This is the ideal world that most of us wants and I hope and yearn for this day to happen. The new generations should be learning this new type of technology in that way they can carry the torch and pass it to the next one- innovated and modified better for a better world to use.
I think that would not be possible even if all the countries have adopted crypto because of its electronic nature still there are many shortcomings in terms of security or technology.
Well bitcoin is the part of our life and it is effecting our daily life which helps us in all fields of life, I am using bitcoin which is really a great thing for me and every day I am watching my bitcoin growing and it will give me huge profit if will keep on holding, bitcoin can be seen as real life currency after the regulation. Today it is digital era where everything is getting digital so we really need digital currency to be a part of our life so in future it will not be hard for us to live satisfactory.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TTITA on May 20, 2018, 07:36:19 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Similar to this happens in coins.ph; I store my bitcoins in this app, and then it gives me lists of merchants that accept payment from them in Philippine Peso. Once I have decided which item to purchase, coins.ph converts my bitcoin into local currency and then sends payment to the merchant. It made it simple rather than cashing out.
Yes, that is, I think if the method used is 'pre-funded assets' in which the customer needs a topup in advance of their balance, it will certainly facilitate and speed up processing by the merchant. I am not pessimistic it will be applied in other places as the regulations will be agreed with the government to facilitate this business.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kiweikoo on May 23, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Yay, wow… what you said really makes a lot of sense, but the problem is who will agree to do that? 😏For every phone to come with Bitcoin wallets pre-installed in them, I think it will require the approval of the companies that are running the software, just like Apple is in charge of IOS and Google is in charge of Android.

These companies will be the ones to approve it, but I don’t think they will ever have interest in doing that. By the way, you don’t things to make it seem like you’re forcing people to make use of Bitcoin, it has to do with choice and not by force. But you still have good idea., though I don’t fully support it.
I really like positive minded and optimistic people like you. Yes we need to promote the technology as much as we can. We need to invest in the technology or spread information and aware people about the bounties the technology promises.

Many people around who want to invest but do not know about the technology if convinced of Bitcoin will switch their investment in the technology and so the technology will get promoted.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ausbit on May 24, 2018, 05:05:30 AM
In my country, this happened when a large caffer store used Altcoin as a form of payment. These stores use an application from the developer to make payment transactions with other users. But then the government banned it and removed it for money laundering.
We all know the worth and the potential of the crypto currencies in a very well manner and that we all know that how effective these crypto currencies can be in making the economic condition of this country stringer and better. However, we all need to play our part to promote these crypto currencies in a better way and to make this world a better place to live and that is only possible when more people will get to know about the crypto currencies.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: el kaka22 on May 25, 2018, 05:57:09 PM
Build confidence over the use of cryptocurrency. With regulation for economic stability comes infrastructural remodeling for uniformity and flexibility. So what need to happen beside regulation is building confidence that crypto can succeed in the real world.
I really accept that fact that confidence is all we need and truly, that is not there yet. A lot of people who are even in the space right now are possibly having faith in the future but still not sure yet the possibility of what the future could come with and this is where the level of fear, uncertainty and doubt in the market is extremely huge.

I guess over time, as government keep showing their arm to embrace and regulate it, things may start turning out better as we get to see more and more people coming into the space as a result of that confidence that crypto is going nowhere and it is here to stay.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Realistmoon on May 25, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
I think in future bitcoin lead some parts of economical activities and many of countries are accept bitcoin one by one.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: tambok on May 25, 2018, 06:46:54 PM
It will become success and that is for sure, crypto is a good way to fund projects for now, and many people are believing in it too, so no need to worry about it, in fact cryptocrurrency are already successful but it was still negative for other people due to scammers and negative news.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: charmaine08 on May 25, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
I agreed on that , I have some relatives that are trading and investing on some crypto coins and they all succeeded on life , they also rebuild their houses and do some business now and that's all because of crypto . and now I  starting also trading and investing on it and I will start here in bounty .


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BitcoinMarketer39 on May 25, 2018, 08:20:56 PM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.

Cryptocurrency will really succeed because of bitcoins due to the amount of demand in the market of every investors who are newly starting to trade, so keep on investing today if you have a decent capital in order to earn more profit in the future.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: DeadCoin on May 25, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

It has started. Lots of achievements. The moment the projects reaches the market and the coin gas values,  yes crypto has achieved the milestone.  Every crypto coin stays with values have really achieved their goals. The success still speaks when there is a consistent positive growth in value besides their fluctuations.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: weblouartisan on May 25, 2018, 08:57:39 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency is already succeeding right now, the number of people who are investing on bitcoins are increasing but sometimes, the price is also dropping although it does not matter since it will goes back to its normal price as well.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: sevenbits on May 25, 2018, 10:51:03 PM
Crypto will succeed in the real world without any centralized services. people just need time to get used to the new economic model. for the majority it is still obligatory to see a photo of the dead president on a piece of paper that would be considered real money.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: coinplus on May 27, 2018, 05:04:29 AM
This is something that would happen if there are no more regulations in the crypto market and all countries will adopt the payments via digital currencies-even the countries that are still developing. This is the ideal world that most of us wants and I hope and yearn for this day to happen. The new generations should be learning this new type of technology in that way they can carry the torch and pass it to the next one- innovated and modified better for a better world to use.
I think that would not be possible even if all the countries have adopted crypto because of its electronic nature still there are many shortcomings in terms of security or technology.
Firstly, in respect to what kaya11 said, there is no way government all over the world will eventually accept it fully without some form of regulation as they will want to benefit from it in a way as well and this is absolutely where the idea of taxation is going to come in.

Nevertheless, based on your own judgment, the shortcomings in terms of security can only be applicable for someone who is pretty much careless. Sure, no doubt those exchanges can be hacked and that can have a huge effect, but the idea of using extra security is so that one can at least be able to stay a bit secured or possibly move to a cold storage.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: senin on May 27, 2018, 06:05:34 AM
I see that the process of transition to the calculation in the crypto currency is very long and has both advantages and disadvantages. The transition to the crypto currency really puts sellers of goods and services in full accountability to the tax authorities, which is not very positive for them. On the other hand, the transition to new technologies puts us in complete dependence on their availability. The usual theft of a mobile phone can create for us very big problems, which was not previously when using cash. It seems to me that for small purchases it will be easier to pay bills and not reinvent the bicycle.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ibrahim 2020 on May 27, 2018, 06:16:13 AM
I think this article touches on wider adoption and some potential methods we could use to get there. I think a standardised protocol would have to be introduced in order to reach the mainstream adoption we all want to see. I have no doubt these things will be developed. It's easy to get caught up in the bubble within cryptocurrency but we are still extremely early and allot of the infrastructure still hasn't been developed


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kakawate on May 27, 2018, 06:24:36 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency is definitely gonna bring the world a better and a brighter system for everybody to use, but this new system is definitely gonna bring lots of problems to be discussed first. There are still lots of people who doesn’t believe in what the possibilities could be if cryptocurrency is gonna be implied. But I believe that we are gonna have a better world to live in with cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cloudproject on May 27, 2018, 06:30:16 AM
that was really hard if crypto are succeed in the real world, because not just only making the system but bitcoin have still many people that don't like and gov too, so merely crypto must remain in their place in the digital stuff thing


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: setupbounds on May 30, 2018, 06:53:50 AM
I think this article touches on wider adoption and some potential methods we could use to get there. I think a standardised protocol would have to be introduced in order to reach the mainstream adoption we all want to see. I have no doubt these things will be developed. It's easy to get caught up in the bubble within cryptocurrency but we are still extremely early and allot of the infrastructure still hasn't been developed
In the real world means the modern world’s markets are now running on cryptocurrencies and all the transactions are taking place through cryptocurrencies these days due to its response and the demand of people. A person has investment in a crypto market is successful as this market makes you able to make profit and a huge profit after a long term investment with perfect handling.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: realBitcoiner on May 30, 2018, 07:28:18 AM
It will become success and that is for sure, crypto is a good way to fund projects for now, and many people are believing in it too, so no need to worry about it, in fact cryptocrurrency are already successful but it was still negative for other people due to scammers and negative news.
Bitcoin will be the main stream in the future and the whole world will use it as their regular and legal currency in their local markets. All people will trade in bitcoin. Transactions will be easy and no need for exchange while using outside the country. All other paper currencies will disappear like barter system. Only crypto will hold the market. This is what bitcoin made for.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: frankywill on May 30, 2018, 10:58:31 AM
I am communicating a lot in my common life and many of my friends due to my encouragement are already in here. So I make bitcoin promotion like that


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: sana54210 on June 01, 2018, 07:45:14 AM
In my country, this happened when a large caffer store used Altcoin as a form of payment. These stores use an application from the developer to make payment transactions with other users. But then the government banned it and removed it for money laundering.
What da? I guess this is some of the few attacks we are going to be seeing from the government of some countries. It is absurd though that it may not have been classified yet as a form of payment in the country and the government of some of these countries may want to see it as a form in which some of the merchants in citizens may want to use it to evade tax. Over time, I believe crypto will eventually start making a good mark in the real world based on the usage and government just purely regulating it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: InKiTy38 on June 01, 2018, 08:03:54 AM
To make crypto a success in the real world, this is not a matter for one person but for the first one the government has to make the crypto legitimate and the user to be honest and real with the bitcoin. So we have the power to make it successful


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TradeOne on June 01, 2018, 08:09:41 AM
Now there are many projects that offer cold and hot wallets, you can learn them and choose any one


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ewinsane on June 01, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
In my country, this happened when a large caffer store used Altcoin as a form of payment. These stores use an application from the developer to make payment transactions with other users. But then the government banned it and removed it for money laundering.
We all know the worth and the potential of the crypto currencies in a very well manner and that we all know that how effective these crypto currencies can be in making the economic condition of this country stringer and better. However, we all need to play our part to promote these crypto currencies in a better way and to make this world a better place to live and that is only possible when more people will get to know about the crypto currencies.
Yeah, we really all need to play a role in this crypto space. It is more like a community and every single person do have a part to play in creating awareness. Sure, we cannot go beyond our level, but in the little way that we can, probably in accepting its payment for merchandise, or rendering services and putting it out there for anyone willing to pay with cryptocurrency and so on. All these little things will start getting people curious as to what it is all about and over time help the space.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on June 07, 2018, 07:05:16 AM
I agreed on that , I have some relatives that are trading and investing on some crypto coins and they all succeeded on life , they also rebuild their houses and do some business now and that's all because of crypto . and now I  starting also trading and investing on it and I will start here in bounty .
In my opinion the real use of bitcoin is to trade in and not for holding because it is usable currency and you can use it without any boundaries limitations. We can talk about crypto in our local community. By this way more and more people will come to know about cryptocurrency and they will invest in it. Gradually the whole world will invest and use bitcoin.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cahbagus555 on June 07, 2018, 08:45:26 AM
I dont know about technical for bitcoin payment but I am believe if we can use our smartphone for transaction using bitcoin in the future. Its need a long time to make it happen but i am believe that will happen when peoples transaction using bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: MiukoOk on June 07, 2018, 08:48:31 AM
To make crypto a success in the real world, this is not a matter for one person but for the first one the government has to make the crypto legitimate and the user to be honest and real with the bitcoin. So we have the power to make it successful
Letting Crypto succeed in the real world requires quite a bit of investment in technology and equipment for them, meeting consumer requirements. But Crypto still has many unprofitable holes. I think it's hard to put BTC in the real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Linhkej on June 07, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Yes, that will make the Crypto market grow and market capitalization will be significant. But how to make a world of electronic money?
That is very difficult to implement because Cryptocurrency has too many shortcomings and lack of stability. Shop owners will not want their sales going down as the market goes down. USDT is not affected too much but its blockchain system is having problems, the transaction is too long and the charge is high.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ejanend on June 07, 2018, 08:28:26 PM
I think this article touches on wider adoption and some potential methods we could use to get there. I think a standardised protocol would have to be introduced in order to reach the mainstream adoption we all want to see. I have no doubt these things will be developed. It's easy to get caught up in the bubble within cryptocurrency but we are still extremely early and allot of the infrastructure still hasn't been developed
In the real world means the modern world’s markets are now running on cryptocurrencies and all the transactions are taking place through cryptocurrencies these days due to its response and the demand of people. A person has investment in a crypto market is successful as this market makes you able to make profit and a huge profit after a long term investment with perfect handling.
In order to get success in the modern world a new has established and this is the crypto market where you can get the maximum benefit in a very short interval as we know that getting maximum and huge benefit takes huge time in other sources. We can get success by using the Bitcoin for our investments and trading with it also gives you profit. We are people with productive minds and we must choose the valuable currency and that is the Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dillema018 on June 07, 2018, 10:10:05 PM
As for now many countries are using bitcoin as another way of their payment and many merchandiser accept the bitcoin to be another payment and besides there is no doubt that this would become one signal currency all over the world and maybe they can develop a gadget that can use to have a one gadget that can be use at all.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jhonjhon on June 07, 2018, 10:43:30 PM
that was really hard if crypto are succeed in the real world, because not just only making the system but bitcoin have still many people that don't like and gov too, so merely crypto must remain in their place in the digital stuff thing
It couldn't be hard if the government will give interest towards crypto as to be consider another option of payment. But as it figured from the start, its totally just a digital form of currency and bringing it into real world might be it takes too many years. And those people who aren't in favor with these, will surely get into realization as of having importance of these in today's generation.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: el kaka22 on June 10, 2018, 04:38:33 PM
I am communicating a lot in my common life and many of my friends due to my encouragement are already in here. So I make bitcoin promotion like that
I guess you are referring to marketing somehow. There is actually so much word of mouth can do. It is more like a community and if those around you understand the importance and benefit you are deriving from the crypto world, it just keeps spreading on and on and then you realize eventually that the users are increasing by the day.

We need to consider that the population of bitcoin users and holders have drastically increased over the years and when development kicks in where we get to see the process where we can use bitcoin as a currency in its fullness, it would even make it better.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: trecore4 on June 10, 2018, 04:53:22 PM
Whatever you explained here reminds of something, I think that thing is called as Fiat currency.  :D
I dont see any differences between that and the regulation of crypto currencies in so called your ways. This payments system or protocol that you just put forth might just turn the whole crypto currency thing into the normal traditional way of transacting. There seems zero difference in all of them and no scope for the crypto currency to breath normally. This wont really succeed the crypto currency but it may just make it more or less too regulated giving it more restrictions.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Jessica2009 on June 10, 2018, 05:54:07 PM
    In Bitcoin the transactions  the cost is low and there is no third party interference in the transactions it is a peer to peer deal only with the user and the trader .In developing countries Bitcoin currency can succeed as real money .Bitcoin can be useful in places where government impose strict rules  on the use of fiat currency's .The prices of Bitcoin is based on the supply and demand of Bitcoin and its nature is anonymous. These all are the features are making crypto succeed in real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: sepeda karat on June 10, 2018, 06:01:51 PM
broadly by the trader is possible, his responsibility is on the developers of blockchain, cryptocurrency fans, cryptocurrency investors and the government.The traders are afraid because of some drastic fluctuations in prices that can affect their income.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: darewaller on June 12, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
broadly by the trader is possible, his responsibility is on the developers of blockchain, cryptocurrency fans, cryptocurrency investors and the government.The traders are afraid because of some drastic fluctuations in prices that can affect their income.
Traders are never afraid because of drastic reduction in price but they are just cautious of the volatility and find a safe way to play along. This is not a market that you can totally rely on TA as a trader and just enter a position in the market assuming things would just be fine based on that, but there are just so many other things you have to consider as an investor or trader as long as you are smart about what you are doing.

Regarding the growth crypto as well as its success, there is just so much to it than just the traders alone, as there are some fundamentals that will need to be fulfilled.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: beerlover on June 13, 2018, 08:42:25 AM
The Usechain project is designed to work in the real world. About the project
Usechain is a blockchain platform that creates an application for identifying a person and binding it to specific services: crypto-currency wallets, service applications, for insurance or in lending, the banking sector, etc. In addition, the platform will allow for effective mining, realisation high-speed crypto-currency transactions.
Why are you spamming on the forum ? This is totally off topic and if you want to announce Usechain, you can just do that on Altcoin page, or the ANN thread of the project. However, with respect to the success of crypto world at large, based on what the OP was referring to, I believe there is just so much that would need to be put into consideration from the devs, to the community to the government and so on which all encompasses on how all these set of people that I have mentioned ends up participating in its real life usage of crypto as currency where products create demand for the token or coin in the end.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Sengoko on June 14, 2018, 10:31:05 AM
The Usechain project is designed to work in the real world. About the project
Usechain is a blockchain platform that creates an application for identifying a person and binding it to specific services: crypto-currency wallets, service applications, for insurance or in lending, the banking sector, etc. In addition, the platform will allow for effective mining, realisation high-speed crypto-currency transactions.
We are discussing the success of cryptocurrencies and especially we see the Bitcoin as the most developed and progressing currency among all the other currencies. We see that world is looking and staring at the Bitcoin or in other words Bitcoin is the sight of modern world because they know that Bitcoin is a successful and popular currency on the basis of its features.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: coinplus on June 17, 2018, 07:25:28 AM
    In Bitcoin the transactions  the cost is low and there is no third party interference in the transactions it is a peer to peer deal only with the user and the trader .In developing countries Bitcoin currency can succeed as real money .Bitcoin can be useful in places where government impose strict rules  on the use of fiat currency's .The prices of Bitcoin is based on the supply and demand of Bitcoin and its nature is anonymous. These all are the features are making crypto succeed in real world.
Yeah, the success of crypto is totally based on its usage entirely and how people eventually get to perceive it as a currency more than an asset but a whole lot of that still has to do with how government is ready to accept it and may be regulate it but we all know they just do not come easy as it would take series of rules, policies and amendments to eventually get there.

Plus, the features like you said in your last statement such as transaction fees, speed and so much more, will really help in fast growth and development as we forge ahead.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: iram1011 on June 17, 2018, 07:40:31 AM
With Lightening Network making Bitcoin feasible as a payment option, there need to be a way for instant payment to vendors while making a TX. I have read an article which state that NFC can be clubbed with LN to make crypto payment fast and reliable with less fees involved. This is likely to boost the utility of Bitcoin as a currency. Cryptos are basically being used as an investment asset because of their deflationary property. People tend to hodl than to spend cryptos for the future returns. Merchants fear the volatility of cryptos and hence, aren't really willing to use cryptocurrencies as a mean of payment. But if we find a way to instant and relaible payment, we might can boost the utility.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: chrisculanag on June 17, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Yes i think , many crypto are made for the good purposes and because of this many crypto are sucessful like as bitcoin and many more . Just make a good crypto , good budget and good purpose and i think you get a success.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Pattart on June 17, 2018, 08:59:40 AM
I think we are not arriving at that stage yet, at this time we still struggle with the government regulation and how to make bitcoin to be mass adopted so the price fluctuations could be controlled, how to create a fast and cheap transaction, many stores complained that the btc price is too fluctuate and they can't predicted their profit and if the price fluctuate too much its very inconvenient for them to accept crypto, when this thing could be settled then we will enter the infrastructure stage which is the wifi and the wallet setting
Bitcoin is still in the development stage and needs a process to achieve that success. yeah you're right maybe we're still in the stage to do the regulation on bitcoin. and to achieve that regulation we need a very long time. because it is difficult to convince the government. when the stages of the regulation have been passed I'm sure other stages such as acceptance of store, rapid user growth, etc will get easily


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: voztata on June 19, 2018, 06:16:51 AM
To make crypto a success in the real world, this is not a matter for one person but for the first one the government has to make the crypto legitimate and the user to be honest and real with the bitcoin. So we have the power to make it successful
Actually this is one thing that would actually bring some positive sentiment into the crypto space and also reduce a lot of fear, uncertainty and doubt. Government legalizing it though will mean regulating it, but in that case, it is one thing we will definitely have to accept to move forward unless we just want to keep seeing clamp down by the government every now and then. In this scenario, it would be easy for the institutions to roll in and smart moneys kicking in, which obviously brings about huge growth.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: syaripudin on June 19, 2018, 06:29:02 AM
yes, it seems that to realize all things related to the means of transaction by using crypto it is necessary for the development of a more convenient for users of crypto. and of course this needs support from all parties to build a better means of transaction by using crypto and this of course will take a long time. I hope that in the future crypto will be a thing to do the transaction easily that can be used by everyone.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: BaraxLo on June 19, 2018, 06:33:16 AM
It will become success and that is for sure, crypto is a good way to fund projects for now, and many people are believing in it too, so no need to worry about it, in fact cryptocrurrency are already successful but it was still negative for other people due to scammers and negative news.
Bitcoin will be the main stream in the future and the whole world will use it as their regular and legal currency in their local markets. All people will trade in bitcoin. Transactions will be easy and no need for exchange while using outside the country. All other paper currencies will disappear like barter system. Only crypto will hold the market. This is what bitcoin made for.
No doubt as that is what we all expect anyway, but before we eventually hit the mainstream, there is a need for everyone to have the mentality that bitcoin is a currency and a tool for payment purposes and not just as a form of speculative asset which a lot see it as these days.

The way to succeed is to get to use it for its main purpose. Otherwise, we will just keep going back and forth, huge volatility here and there, and then the whales manipulating the prices to keep winning all the time.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: linesretweetG on June 19, 2018, 06:35:37 AM
Imho we need more cryptos with real uses.
There are too many coins out there with some good "projects" but they won't never be adopted by anyone... these coins will be dead in few months.
This is why is necessary to have a solid project with some example of day to day uses.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jupyterxxx on June 19, 2018, 06:42:14 AM
Definitely the entire blockchain and crypto space is still in its infancy stage. It is exciting to see and follow the developments in the near future. Some people are saying that blockchain and crypto will replace the entire banking and monetary systems around the world. I disagree with this. From my point of view, it will be more of a collaborative way of disruption happening in the entire industry. For a start, cryptocurrencies are not ready to replace the international monetary systems, since there are still huge issues such as scalability and volatility of prices. This itself is a huge obstacle in making cryptocurrencies the mainstream form of payment method for the masses. Many things still have to happen (eg: general consensus from countries to utitlize a certain cryptocurrency for payment, etc) for it to be normalized. As long as cryptocurrencies are not the mainstream method of payment, it will not entirely remove the need of existing monetary systems and fiat currencies.

As for the banking industry, it is more likely that banks must adapt and embrace blockchain technology into their business to prevent themselves being obsolete. For sure, this technology is causing waves of chaos and disruption to the banking industry, in services such as cross-border payments, transparency of investment decisions, as well as raising capital (in the form of ICOs). Bankers are beginning to be aware of how real the threat is to the entire banking sector and some big banks have already led the way in adapting towards the direction of implementing blockchain technology and crypto into their business models (eg: Goldman). I must say this is only the beginning of the big picture.

It is an exciting time to be alive  :)


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Shadon24 on June 19, 2018, 07:11:57 AM
Making the cryptocurrency successful in the real world is what we are doing today and today, we join the forum with the sincerity and positive belief we have made crypto more successful.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dashi555 on June 19, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
As far as I know, projects have already been done in Southeast Asia. It promotes the use of its own terminals and tokens to pay in terminal stores. At present, children actively promote it. I think this will happen soon in other places.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: cluit on June 19, 2018, 09:27:03 AM
I agreed on that , I have some relatives that are trading and investing on some crypto coins and they all succeeded on life , they also rebuild their houses and do some business now and that's all because of crypto . and now I  starting also trading and investing on it and I will start here in bounty .
In my opinion the real use of bitcoin is to trade in and not for holding because it is usable currency and you can use it without any boundaries limitations. We can talk about crypto in our local community. By this way more and more people will come to know about cryptocurrency and they will invest in it. Gradually the whole world will invest and use bitcoin.

Over time, I believe more people will see its usefulness over fiat and that is already happening anyway because every single day, we get to see new investors popping in, realizing what they have been missing and believing in the possibility of its future growth and development.

We cannot rule out the fact that for now, a lot of people only see it as an asset which makes it more speculative, but the more the usage for what it is as a currency, the more over time that the value increases the more.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: liseff3 on June 19, 2018, 09:48:02 AM
Yes i think , many crypto are made for the good purposes and because of this many crypto are sucessful like as bitcoin and many more . Just make a good crypto , good budget and good purpose and i think you get a success.

Success here isn't as easy as turning your palms away, my friend. Since this involves the crowd, what will happen to them if the law smells the activity of the transactions it does while the law in their country still prohibits if bitcoin's used as a means of a transaction (payment method)?...


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jonatuzc on June 19, 2018, 10:08:12 AM
that was really hard if crypto are succeed in the real world, because not just only making the system but bitcoin have still many people that don't like and gov too, so merely crypto must remain in their place in the digital stuff thing
It couldn't be hard if the government will give interest towards crypto as to be consider another option of payment. But as it figured from the start, its totally just a digital form of currency and bringing it into real world might be it takes too many years. And those people who aren't in favor with these, will surely get into realization as of having importance of these in today's generation.
Would not be hard at all but of course they just would not want to make it come so easy like that. However, a whole lot will be changing over time anyway as reality starts kicking in, people start believing in its usage as a currency and the real life solution it offers as against the usual traditional currency, government will get to see that they have more benefit to derive in terms of growth while it goes hand in hand with fiat and all that will usher in some pretty good level of growth as time goes on.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: pandanaran on June 19, 2018, 10:21:11 AM
that was really hard if crypto are succeed in the real world, because not just only making the system but bitcoin have still many people that don't like and gov too, so merely crypto must remain in their place in the digital stuff thing
It couldn't be hard if the government will give interest towards crypto as to be consider another option of payment. But as it figured from the start, its totally just a digital form of currency and bringing it into real world might be it takes too many years. And those people who aren't in favor with these, will surely get into realization as of having importance of these in today's generation.
Would not be hard at all but of course they just would not want to make it come so easy like that. However, a whole lot will be changing over time anyway as reality starts kicking in, people start believing in its usage as a currency and the real life solution it offers as against the usual traditional currency, government will get to see that they have more benefit to derive in terms of growth while it goes hand in hand with fiat and all that will usher in some pretty good level of growth as time goes on.
Let's imagine if the government accepted and most people believed in crypto. I think some pretty big obstacles also exist, the unstable value will make people contra and I think the value is still easily influenced by the FUD, there will be some obstacles in building success in the real world, we do have to accept the hard thing to build success.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ian_somer on June 19, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
Crypto currency is not yet popular enough, many states strongly reject it, and people do not want to believe, but I think that soon everyone will know about the crypto currency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: anntlevel on June 21, 2018, 09:46:19 AM
The Usechain project is designed to work in the real world. About the project
Usechain is a blockchain platform that creates an application for identifying a person and binding it to specific services: crypto-currency wallets, service applications, for insurance or in lending, the banking sector, etc. In addition, the platform will allow for effective mining, realisation high-speed crypto-currency transactions.
Let me tell you one thing, if you want a huge profit or maximum profit and it is clear that it is the well of every investor so just follow the crypto market which is the modern market and most of the transactions are now taking place through the Bitcoin and especially between high trading companies and many other places. It is a perfect source of making money or profit by investing in it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: stellgod on June 22, 2018, 07:44:49 AM
Handling fiat currencies comes almost as second nature to most people. Whether in paper or in their online banking system. They understand its value, how to trade it for products and services, and how it stacks up against a few other foreign currencies relevant to their lives on the global exchange.
Anyway, these years cryptocurrency is growing so fast. So it is truly possible that it can be the money of the future.
As a matter of fact, some programs have already experimented with the use of cryptocurrencies as means of distributing a universal basic income.
Further, cryptocurrencies could help to get rid of intermediaries in everyday transactions. This could cut costs for businesses and help out consumers.
For promotion of crypto in the world we should promote it in our local communities. When more and more people come to know about crypto and they realize that the world is turning towards crypto they will invest money in it and thus the value and price will increase. I know that it will take long time but one day the whole world will use bitcoin b this way.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Menawi12 on June 22, 2018, 09:36:35 AM
Crypto adoption and regulation from government, i think thats main factor can bring crypto bigger than now. Regulation needed in crypto market because makes peoples confident and attracting to invest. Adoption will bring crypto more popular because peoples always want to try new technology


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: micleeiu398 on June 22, 2018, 11:19:01 AM
The Usechain project is designed to work in the real world. About the project
Usechain is a blockchain platform that creates an application for identifying a person and binding it to specific services: crypto-currency wallets, service applications, for insurance or in lending, the banking sector, etc. In addition, the platform will allow for effective mining, realisation high-speed crypto-currency transactions.
Let me tell you one thing, if you want a huge profit or maximum profit and it is clear that it is the well of every investor so just follow the crypto market which is the modern market and most of the transactions are now taking place through the Bitcoin and especially between high trading companies and many other places. It is a perfect source of making money or profit by investing in it.
I appreciate that we have usechain backed by blockchain. Now many people will trust crypto because of this technology. If the use of this technology gives us so many facilities then no doubt that crypto will succeed in the real world. If I am safe, I can transfer money easily, I can use it with comfort I will tell others to use this incredible technology.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: 2342q6tegw on June 22, 2018, 01:01:57 PM
You need these things for crypto to succeed in the mainstream,

1) Less volatility (coloured coins, tokenised assets,inflationary crypto  and min/lyer smart contract or utility token with a burn function (gold can be used in manufacture then it is not avalible fir jewellry) are all possible approaches
2) Simplicity, it needs to be as simple and easy to use as paypal
3) Scale, can it handle thousands of transactions per second?
4) lower resource use, mining is too intensive for mainstream use (maybe PoS is the solution here)
5) Attract non traditional crypto-type people A good proxy for this might be how many women are there? holding the coin? Women are on average much later adopters, so when a third of crypto hodlers are women, we are well on our ay to mainstream adoption.  Remember Games, were more nerdy before Sims, Internet was more so before Facebook. Something that leaves out half the planet's populatio won't go mainstream easily.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: omitusaf on June 22, 2018, 01:13:57 PM
This is what one of the smartphone manufacturers have adopted. Sikur Secure smartphone has a built-in cryptocurrency wallet. https://www.pcmag.com/feature/359530/this-secure-phone-has-a-built-in-cryptocurrency-wallet (https://www.pcmag.com/feature/359530/this-secure-phone-has-a-built-in-cryptocurrency-wallet). However, this is usually very suspicious to the public as the market is rife with many phishing attempts.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: MiXxe on June 22, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
Handling fiat currencies comes almost as second nature to most people. Whether in paper or in their online banking system. They understand its value, how to trade it for products and services, and how it stacks up against a few other foreign currencies relevant to their lives on the global exchange.
Anyway, these years cryptocurrency is growing so fast. So it is truly possible that it can be the money of the future.
As a matter of fact, some programs have already experimented with the use of cryptocurrencies as means of distributing a universal basic income.
Further, cryptocurrencies could help to get rid of intermediaries in everyday transactions. This could cut costs for businesses and help out consumers.
For promotion of crypto in the world we should promote it in our local communities. When more and more people come to know about crypto and they realize that the world is turning towards crypto they will invest money in it and thus the value and price will increase. I know that it will take long time but one day the whole world will use bitcoin b this way.

I dont actually know why other people who earn from bitcoin aren't really sharing their bitcoin with the other people. Is that about greediness? Is that about not wanting others to reach what you are currently reaching? We have to remove that kind of mindset. We have to change it into a mindset wherein we are thinking to help to other people.'


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: florinigna on June 22, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
Your 3rd point is most important. More and more offline stores should be allowing crypto for customers.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Dewao on June 22, 2018, 03:01:45 PM
Handling fiat currencies comes almost as second nature to most people. Whether in paper or in their online banking system. They understand its value, how to trade it for products and services, and how it stacks up against a few other foreign currencies relevant to their lives on the global exchange.
Anyway, these years cryptocurrency is growing so fast. So it is truly possible that it can be the money of the future.
As a matter of fact, some programs have already experimented with the use of cryptocurrencies as means of distributing a universal basic income.
Further, cryptocurrencies could help to get rid of intermediaries in everyday transactions. This could cut costs for businesses and help out consumers.
For promotion of crypto in the world we should promote it in our local communities. When more and more people come to know about crypto and they realize that the world is turning towards crypto they will invest money in it and thus the value and price will increase. I know that it will take long time but one day the whole world will use bitcoin b this way.

I dont actually know why other people who earn from bitcoin aren't really sharing their bitcoin with the other people. Is that about greediness? Is that about not wanting others to reach what you are currently reaching? We have to remove that kind of mindset. We have to change it into a mindset wherein we are thinking to help to other people.'

No it's not like that, as you see bitcoin price is volatility so means the price can increase and can decrease any time, so what if your friends invest on bitcoin at the high price and the price of bitcoin will going down?  Who do you think he blame?  Of course you. So if you want to share bitcoin make sure that you share everything about it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: pellor mas on June 22, 2018, 03:06:35 PM
Merchants are afraid because they have to track sales, income, pay taxes, and more. There is no provision for this purpose and that is why they may not simply accept it easily. For customers it is hard to wait in the coffee shop until they get enough confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are none but many problems in using this currency. Until the moment we do not see a big preparation for this we can not see any progress as a whole.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: 2342q6tegw on June 22, 2018, 07:43:20 PM
Merchants are afraid because they have to track sales, income, pay taxes, and more. There is no provision for this purpose and that is why they may not simply accept it easily. For customers it is hard to wait in the coffee shop until they get enough confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are none but many problems in using this currency. Until the moment we do not see a big preparation for this we can not see any progres as a whole.

Good point online sales will need a way to determine location within the crypto for vat/gst/sales tax purporses.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Btcaivah1 on June 22, 2018, 08:49:43 PM
Crypto market already succeeded in the real world. It has already widely use by different types of project and could be said that many countries and individuals embracing cryptocurrency to be the center of business world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Sled on June 23, 2018, 01:05:09 AM
Adoption is the key for the cryptocurrency to succeed in the real world because if there is no adoption for the cryptocurrencies then it means that there is no implementation for the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin and other crypto should be accepted as an option for making payments and some of the altcoins that have great blockchain technology should be use as well.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ShineftChaos on June 23, 2018, 01:19:22 AM
Adoption is the key for the cryptocurrency to succeed in the real world because if there is no adoption for the cryptocurrencies then it means that there is no implementation for the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin and other crypto should be accepted as an option for making payments and some of the altcoins that have great blockchain technology should be use as well.

If every government will adopt the same idea just like what japan is thinking of bitcoins right now and every country will be legalizing cryptocurrency then people can live on a very wealthy country because cryptocurrency can actually improve the economy of a country.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: lamvu663 on June 23, 2018, 01:26:54 AM
We need to create real values that can be seen and felt with the senses


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Pattart on June 23, 2018, 01:32:26 AM
Crypto currency is not yet popular enough, many states strongly reject it, and people do not want to believe, but I think that soon everyone will know about the crypto currency.
The state forbids and reject crypto not because less popular but the threat that will be given crypto on the local currency and the country's economy. how anonymous will make financial transactions undercover. that's what the government is afraid of. but crypto will continue to grow. maybe one day there is a system that can manage and control the user crypto?


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: daarul50 on June 23, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Crypto currency is not yet popular enough, many states strongly reject it, and people do not want to believe, but I think that soon everyone will know about the crypto currency.
The state forbids and reject crypto not because less popular but the threat that will be given crypto on the local currency and the country's economy. how anonymous will make financial transactions undercover. that's what the government is afraid of. but crypto will continue to grow. maybe one day there is a system that can manage and control the user crypto?

Some of the above fears are the cause of rejection by some countries but the fear is not applicable in countries that currently legalize bitcoin for their community use as a method of payment. Should the countries that are still in doubt do not only see the risk of acceptance of bitcoin alone but should also consider the potential and benefits of acceptance bitcoin.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: t2yax on June 23, 2018, 04:21:08 PM
Cryptocurrency is one of the invented virtual money. Nowadays, cryptocurrency is not yet popular for all the people. We cannot expect all people are well knonw in cryptocurrency. Even investors and traders does not know how cryptocurrency is produced day by day.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Bakemat on June 23, 2018, 04:26:43 PM
Cryptocurrency is one of the invented virtual money. Nowadays, cryptocurrency is not yet popular for all the people. We cannot expect all people are well knonw in cryptocurrency. Even investors and traders does not know how cryptocurrency is produced day by day.

Most of the people who lack knowledge about cryptocurrency are losing a huge amount of their investments today, bitcoins is very popular and those who does not know about cryptocurrency are just people who are not aware of technology that is growing, cryptocurrency will succeed as long as government will not meddle its progression.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dragoz11 on June 23, 2018, 04:48:05 PM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: 2342q6tegw on June 24, 2018, 08:48:07 AM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.

You need all of those. Your right you need to prevent manipulation too however of you can address volatility of price that helps with manipulation and legalization too. They are not necessarily technically hard but they are needed for mass adoption.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Baronggot on June 24, 2018, 10:44:24 AM
Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency is a very successful cryptocurrency already. Nobody really ever thought that bitcoin will reach thousands of dollars per 1 bitcoin because at the beginning, it only costs less than a dollar per BTC. But if we are talking about bitcoin being a cryptocurrency, it seems that bitcoin has sled down on that notion as bitcoin became mainstream as a new kind of investment.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: esemine on June 24, 2018, 11:06:29 AM
If offline stores start allowing crypto payments from customers, it will boost the growth. Your other suggestions can also help crypto succeed.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: kinamotorami on June 24, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
This is unlikely, as the Crypto market is growing as well because they work on digital money, with anonymous numbers that have attracted many people to them, if you bring out real life grips. Holding a BTC with a visible object will no longer attract investors to them.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: sangungaji on June 24, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Making cryptocurrencies widely accepted by merchants is possible, the responsibility is on developers of blockchains, cryptocurrency fans, cryptocurrency investors and governments. Traders are afraid because of some drastic fluctuations in prices that could affect their income. It is my opinion.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: crazycatwoman03 on June 24, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Making cryptocurrencies widely accepted by merchants is possible, the responsibility is on developers of blockchains, cryptocurrency fans, cryptocurrency investors and governments. Traders are afraid because of some drastic fluctuations in prices that could affect their income. It is my opinion.
The government may greatly opposed the use of it but I think if developers, commercial enterprises, infrastructures and etc decided to implement crypto payment, the government will surely have no choice or will greatly consider accepting it. If that happens, crypto earners might need to pay taxes directly.

Crypto in a real world will greatly benefit those who are yearning for it to be used as regular payment, also it will increase the interest in bitcoin which might help in the market demand.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: StarofBTC on June 25, 2018, 05:34:05 AM
The Usechain project is designed to work in the real world. About the project
Usechain is a blockchain platform that creates an application for identifying a person and binding it to specific services: crypto-currency wallets, service applications, for insurance or in lending, the banking sector, etc. In addition, the platform will allow for effective mining, realisation high-speed crypto-currency transactions.
Let me tell you one thing, if you want a huge profit or maximum profit and it is clear that it is the well of every investor so just follow the crypto market which is the modern market and most of the transactions are now taking place through the Bitcoin and especially between high trading companies and many other places. It is a perfect source of making money or profit by investing in it.
This can also happen if all of the countries recognize and legalize the crypto and facilitate and educate the masses to use the technology and the features it offers. This will expand the technology to a greater extent and very soon we will be in a position to witness the cashless society dream. Besides, the banking system can change as well as the up gradation in the system in the system will bring more possibilities.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TheGreatPython on June 25, 2018, 09:27:05 AM
Handling fiat currencies comes almost as second nature to most people. Whether in paper or in their online banking system. They understand its value, how to trade it for products and services, and how it stacks up against a few other foreign currencies relevant to their lives on the global exchange.
Anyway, these years cryptocurrency is growing so fast. So it is truly possible that it can be the money of the future.
As a matter of fact, some programs have already experimented with the use of cryptocurrencies as means of distributing a universal basic income.
Further, cryptocurrencies could help to get rid of intermediaries in everyday transactions. This could cut costs for businesses and help out consumers.
For promotion of crypto in the world we should promote it in our local communities. When more and more people come to know about crypto and they realize that the world is turning towards crypto they will invest money in it and thus the value and price will increase. I know that it will take long time but one day the whole world will use bitcoin b this way.
Yeah, this is modern world and all we need is to get success through modern technologies which are in our good. We know of the Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well but it is not so easy to use them for profit. You will need to get education of the crypto markets which will make you able to understand and handle the situations and difficulties appear in the market.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PonyBoy on June 25, 2018, 09:47:54 AM
 I think that not many guys would try so hard in order to get some things changed, because 80% of guys here, are here only for money. That they can earn from trading, holding, bounties and whatever else.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: futuret on June 25, 2018, 05:15:57 PM
If offline stores start allowing crypto payments from customers, it will boost the growth. Your other suggestions can also help crypto succeed.
Of course making bitcoin payments for all kind of goods so the more we will use bitcoin will get high in price, it is best investment now a day, so we should try to make good speculation this time as try of being a part of bitcoin growth, make investments and encourage more people for investing in bitcoin, so with passage of time bitcoin will be successful investment and good business in our real world.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: futile-resistance on June 26, 2018, 06:50:14 AM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.

You need all of those. Your right you need to prevent manipulation too however of you can address volatility of price that helps with manipulation and legalization too. They are not necessarily technically hard but they are needed for mass adoption.
He has described some really great features which if improved, can really make the technology great again and the value might increase sharply. So many people who want to invest in the technology but fear to loose money because they feel the wallets are insecure.

Also the number of wallets increased means the rise in the demand which again pushes the market graphs up. Finally I would say about the recognition of the technology by various countries can be instrumental in increasing the popularity of the technology.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Epimetheus on June 26, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
Bitcoin is virtual currency due to this many old minded people doesn't believe on this. But many people succeed after using bitcoin. Bitcoin is covert into real currency but it is occur only in those countries where it is accepted. Bitcoin provides a lot of options to its user to earn money from it. By using those options anyone can succeed. Bitcoin secure transaction facility with low transaction cost help to succeed many bussinessman and online retailers. Many unemployed person also succeed in their life because of bitcoin's advantages and innovation software.  :)


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PonyBoy on June 27, 2018, 08:26:17 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Also I believe that we need to share in conversations our crypto interests, in order to attract more guys here, I have already bring 3 people here, and they are burning and fresh. So with this community we can break through.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: squog on June 27, 2018, 08:28:58 AM
Or, instead of a phone, why not use a card. Kind of like an RFID thing. Think of it as a card connected to you wallet much like how credit cards are connected to your bank accounts. Of course all these needs to be by the books and allowed by the law. Everything will happen once crypto currencies stabilize and adopted by businesses


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: giarised on June 27, 2018, 10:32:27 AM
Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency is a very successful cryptocurrency already. Nobody really ever thought that bitcoin will reach thousands of dollars per 1 bitcoin because at the beginning, it only costs less than a dollar per BTC. But if we are talking about bitcoin being a cryptocurrency, it seems that bitcoin has sled down on that notion as bitcoin became mainstream as a new kind of investment.
According to my point of view bitcoin had become successful in the past few years because many people started using it and still every day new people come to know about it and start using it. The importance of bitcoin was rising from the very first day and the same is going on. I think bitcoin is the best currency in all the digital currencies, we can't compare it to other currencies.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Smarty14392 on June 27, 2018, 11:05:38 AM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.
In my locality about 95% people do not know about cryptocurrency. They even didn’t her the name. How they can invest their money in crypto? I am 43 years old and I don’t think that I will see that all the people are using bitcoin around the world in my life. This is a new technology and will take long time to take over the market.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Sanu Simon on June 27, 2018, 11:14:50 AM
Already bitcoin has succeeded in the real world with its real life usage. When it is compared to the traditional fiat the usage level of bitcoin is much low. To make it grow higher than the present we need to stay active and continue using bitcoin as much possible.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Dondon1234 on June 27, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Adapting to crypto in normal people not using bitcoin is to hard, so in this case we need to teach them,  i think it is good to make a seminar in every place in any country to intruduce bitcoin, becuase in crypto if you are the one who have the ability to make money in crypto you will be succeed in the real worl.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Betwrong on June 27, 2018, 11:47:05 AM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.

How can you focus on those things that your action was not useless? Can you do anything to prevent volatility, manipulation or to speed up the process of legalization? I doubt that, and, yes, I can't do anything in that regard either. I think the OP's points are valid ones and you should have better reread them instead of engaging in empty talk.

To OP. Good news: Huawei, the world's 3d largest smartphone manufacturer, is going to pre-install Bitcoin wallet on their every phone from now on.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: reidel21 on June 27, 2018, 12:18:02 PM
Making the cryptocurrency successful in the real world is what we are doing today and today, we join the forum with the sincerity and positive belief we have made crypto more successful.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bizarro on June 27, 2018, 04:13:39 PM
 I am always telling people about my attitude towards bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and while doing that I have spotted that people are really non educated about bitcoin and cryptos...


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: freakcoins on June 27, 2018, 04:44:35 PM
I beleive through sucess in crypto world is to have enough knowledge to create and do such things that you can  earn rewards and big profits to it,so we have to do research read lots of informations that you gather here in forums for you to be a successful one.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Adamant06 on June 27, 2018, 05:02:15 PM
I beleive through sucess in crypto world is to have enough knowledge to create and do such things that you can  earn rewards and big profits to it,so we have to do research read lots of informations that you gather here in forums for you to be a successful one.
Making crypto successful in real world are not en easy task, but as I observe nowadays cryptocurrencies are  succeeding little by little from being banned in some country and now some are accepted it already. For that in the near future we can see the results of nonstop and heartily advertising and promoting cryptucurrencies like bitcoin and alts.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TN0904950 on June 27, 2018, 07:04:19 PM
Crypto currency is not yet popular enough, many states strongly reject it, and people do not want to believe, but I think that soon everyone will know about the crypto currency.



I think how to make a quick and cheap deal, many stores complain that btc prices are too volatile and they can not estimate their profits and if prices are too fluctuating it is very uncomfortable for them to accept crypto, when this can be solved then we will enter the infrastructure stage which is wifi and wallet settings
I think we have not reached that stage, now we are still struggling with government regulations and how to make bitcoin for mass adoption so that price fluctuations can be controlled


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: wyplashdea on June 27, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
There is one point and should remark:

3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

żWhy is not so common to find stores/shops whit BTC payment gateway? Its like VISA, MASTERCARD...increasing the ways a client could use to pay should not be a bad idea for any store/shop.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: liseff3 on June 27, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

All three of these are true and need to be realized for the sake of sustainability and success the future of cryptocurrency, by increasing the adoption of crypto wallets perhaps at least able to solve the problem of mass adoption.
With standard protocols, at least this will not make it difficult for users to transact, as well as standardize various activities related to the payment process, such as purchase agreements, purchase receipts, and payments.

There is one point and should remark:

3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

żWhy is not so common to find stores/shops whit BTC payment gateway? Its like VISA, MASTERCARD...increasing the ways a client could use to pay should not be a bad idea for any store/shop.

You are right, I agree with your opinion.
I'm very optimistic in this way seemed to be able to trigger mass adoption and foster people's interest in bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies, as most people including myself believe that cryptocurrency can be used as a currency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: coynedterm on June 28, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
Your three points are right at your place but still in my opinion there should be another type of implementation in the cryptocurrency field , thus it will be possible for us to make Cryptourrency succeeed in real life .
First thing that is the solution of the problem of the confirmation time that we need to wait after the payment , so here for this we need third party  platform that just make data in write only form and not the actual transfer of the btc .
And second thing that  is fees system , we need universal system of payment where we don't need to pay high fee , here bitcoin is seems that universal but big problem is of the fees system that is really high , that why the reason that we can't pay small amount of the money .
Fir exmaple if you bought a cup of tea and now you have to $0.5 then in that case with the bitcoin payment you will need to pay additional fees of $4- $5 atleast for the confirmation , so here how people will become ready to use such things at lower level .


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: KingdomHearts on June 30, 2018, 12:23:37 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
But do you know any phone company that would agree to do such? Not even Google or Apple will agree to do that kind of thing. Most people are seeing Bitcoin as an investment and there are many that don’t even care about it, including those that haven’t heard of it before.

Why bother about all these things when our main reason for joining Bitcoin is to make money? Nobody here will deny the fact that their main reason for putting their money into Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is to make money. That’s the reason why I’m here, to make money. Any other thing apart from that is none of my business, like seriously .


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Walter789 on June 30, 2018, 11:00:45 PM
I used Cryptocurrency to purchase goods, products, and services here in our country. When I get tokens and coins in ICO's by participating I should go to cryptocurrency exchange to trade or to sell my tokens and then I convert tokens to real money. Here in our country there are several ways of withdrawing cryptocurrency into fiat money Maybe we can do withdrawals in bank or other small banking establishment.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Sled on July 01, 2018, 12:14:49 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
But do you know any phone company that would agree to do such? Not even Google or Apple will agree to do that kind of thing. Most people are seeing Bitcoin as an investment and there are many that don’t even care about it, including those that haven’t heard of it before.

Why bother about all these things when our main reason for joining Bitcoin is to make money? Nobody here will deny the fact that their main reason for putting their money into Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is to make money. That’s the reason why I’m here, to make money. Any other thing apart from that is none of my business, like seriously .
I agree with it. All of us are here to make money and we are putting time, effort, money to create more money but at the end of this things, we still care for cryptocurrencies to succeed in the real world because cryptocurrencies are the future and because of them, we can have a greater type of system which make can make the other works and process easier and faster.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: mornabo on July 01, 2018, 12:33:36 AM
I am always telling people about my attitude towards bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and while doing that I have spotted that people are really non educated about bitcoin and cryptos...
it will really help other people and bitcoin itself, although what you do is small, but it will have an effect on bitcoin,
if many people at least do the same thing as you, as tell others people about bitcoin, it will help spread bitcoin around the world


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Bitfling on July 01, 2018, 03:42:33 AM
Regulation needed if we want crypto adoption more faster. We can use cryptocurrency as payment in merchant if government regulation allowing it and its make cryptomarket more healthy. I am believe adoptio on crypto will success if government regulation issued


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bowals on July 04, 2018, 12:24:15 AM
its already being done, its the negative publicity thats impairing the process of adoption


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Whosdaddy on July 04, 2018, 12:36:18 PM
I beleive through sucess in crypto world is to have enough knowledge to create and do such things that you can  earn rewards and big profits to it,so we have to do research read lots of informations that you gather here in forums for you to be a successful one.
Making crypto successful in real world are not en easy task, but as I observe nowadays cryptocurrencies are  succeeding little by little from being banned in some country and now some are accepted it already. For that in the near future we can see the results of nonstop and heartily advertising and promoting cryptucurrencies like bitcoin and alts.
If we are really serious about our career and our businesses we should let these modern technological innovative sources because its investment benefits us a lot. The crypto market has both valuable and less valuable coins which are acting according to your handling.

If you succeed in handling it with proper way then you will get success and if not then you will lose your investment like you lose in the traditional businesses which is a common fact.



Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: 2start on July 04, 2018, 02:53:24 PM
In addition to regulation, much remains to be done, such as: The introduction and endorsement of Cryptocurrency use in developed countries of the world, in the hope that developing countries can participate as well and follow in the footsteps of developed countries that have authorized Cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: liivii on July 04, 2018, 03:05:18 PM
It takes time for the world to see what crypto can bring to someone's life and when they accept that crypto will surely last for decades, but these negative publicity be some people are the ones who give crypto lesser chance to know by the whole world. So the best thing we can do is to give our full support to crypto no matter what happens because I know someday the day we all want will come and those who are really into crypto are the ones who will benefit of it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: aezotxmb on July 04, 2018, 03:15:20 PM
I agree with you. Now the young people in the encrypted world are the mainstream people, and if you can spread a lot of money purses on the smartphone's APP, the industry will soon get the opportunity to develop quickly.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: freakcoins on July 04, 2018, 03:26:08 PM
Yes i beleive on that,that crypto is the success world why?many now are rejoicing by the blessings of what crypto change their lives better tthan before,so i may say yes that crypto is one of this success in our new generation.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PonyBoy on July 05, 2018, 10:53:11 AM
Making the cryptocurrency successful in the real world is what we are doing today and today, we join the forum with the sincerity and positive belief we have made crypto more successful.


Yeah, you're right about this because it depends on the popularity of it in society. People are talking and writing some news about it and others are reading it and can improve in their life.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Digital_Lord on July 08, 2018, 01:47:14 PM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.
You are right and it will take long time that all people come to know about cryptocurrency and invest in it. Till that time it is not possible that crypto would be successful in the real world. But I am sure in the future it will take over the market and all other currencies will disappear from the market. The whole world will use just one currency and that will be crypto.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: South Park on July 08, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
I am always telling people about my attitude towards bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and while doing that I have spotted that people are really non educated about bitcoin and cryptos...
I find that attitude all the time as well, but this is natural even if we are not early adopters in the sense that we got many coins we are still very early in the life of bitcoin, this is similar to all of those people that preorder games or consoles, you know there are going to be a few bugs and issues but you do it because you want immediate access and you want to support the company but eventually once everything works the rest of the people will come and buy the product.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Moiyah on July 08, 2018, 03:55:58 PM
Seems possible. We are at the stage in where we are already have wallets stored bitcoin. Other members were right. Coins.ph already offered that stuff wherein you can already buy things through that wallet app and even pay bills on it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Cult on July 08, 2018, 11:44:14 PM
I supposed if Telegram really launches its crypto, that will be a huge leap forward for the whole sphere as hundreds of millions of users will acquire a tool for extremely easy transfer of crypto inside a messenger and begin using it for everyday transactions.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bitcub on July 08, 2018, 11:59:56 PM
Everyone should know what is Bitcoin is. Inorder for the crypto to rise. We need more buyers, we need to encourage the new comers to buy in. We need lots of establishments and website to accept crypto.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Raiden0729 on July 09, 2018, 02:01:14 AM
Crypto will prevail in reality with no incorporated administrations. individuals simply require time to become accustomed to the new financial model. for the larger part it is as yet compulsory to see a photograph of the dead president on a bit of paper that would be viewed as genuine cash.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: yesiam6 on July 09, 2018, 02:21:23 AM
To make crypto to succeed in the "real world" it needs to be a lot less volatile ( which would suck out all the fun and moneymaking possibility out of it) imho.
Even big Services like Steam and Expedia stopped accepting Bitcoin payments because of this, so i don't think that smaller shop owners could economically accept crypto with this kind of risk, the ones that do seem accept it "only" because they're crypto enthusiasts.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Cinemo on July 09, 2018, 02:41:44 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
cryptocurrency is already succeed in the real world. Cause we have a dream come true but we should do that you can get the market. Cause I think it will be risen to invest it in a countries. I do a lot to the dump truck and technology in your savings is invest in cryptocurrency and the right direction.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: darefreads on July 09, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Absolutely right. It should be get ready to get the success in the real world even it give some people a big change in their life. It looks like it doesn't received any achievements yet I mean the legalization in the world for a definition of it's success. Maybe we just need to rely on it's production in this coming months to make a big improvement in the community.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: gabmen on July 09, 2018, 04:01:28 AM
To make crypto to succeed in the "real world" it needs to be a lot less volatile ( which would suck out all the fun and moneymaking possibility out of it) imho.
Even big Services like Steam and Expedia stopped accepting Bitcoin payments because of this, so i don't think that smaller shop owners could economically accept crypto with this kind of risk, the ones that do seem accept it "only" because they're crypto enthusiasts.

Well the technology behind crypto, blockchain, will eventually make people accept and adopt this market. Even now projects after projects based oj blockchain have been popping up, some legitimate though others scam. But the legitimate projects eventually have real use and it's only the beginning of this blockchain revolution.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ClackKendi on July 09, 2018, 04:03:49 AM
To make the crypto survive and succeed as well as be known to you, make a contribution to the crypto environment every action as well as your positive thinking will make the market better.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: ufaiz50 on July 09, 2018, 04:10:44 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
For payment is true as your idea that we need a wallet application that can send funds shaped cryptocurrency, and make payments through the application, early I seem to have read about the same project as your idea. For regulation it is the most serious problem, besides there is value from cryptocurrency which is volatile and think about the duration of confirmation which may often we experience today when send cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: realaccountakira on July 09, 2018, 05:27:38 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

-snip-

While i believe that you are right on the money with #1 and #2, i believe #3 should be less of a priority compared to the ability of users to send and receive crypto assets without transaction costs. If users have the ability to stay liquid with their crypto funds in a way that does not cost them fees (that eventually add up), I believe that in itself will already be a big step from the traditional banking system.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jcarlo on July 09, 2018, 07:29:36 AM
I think, government regulation is more important. Merchant wont accept crypto payment as long government not issuing regulation because they will break the law. In many country, cryptocurrency still prohibited if used for payment


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: South Park on July 11, 2018, 09:47:17 PM
To make crypto to succeed in the "real world" it needs to be a lot less volatile ( which would suck out all the fun and moneymaking possibility out of it) imho.
Even big Services like Steam and Expedia stopped accepting Bitcoin payments because of this, so i don't think that smaller shop owners could economically accept crypto with this kind of risk, the ones that do seem accept it "only" because they're crypto enthusiasts.
I think that before bitcoin reaches real world acceptance we need to get bitcoin to be accepted online and to replace paypal as the most used for of payments online, and for what I can see we are very far away to get to that point, but that should be the first goal of bitcoin after all if bitcoin cannot take over the digital world in which it resides, how could it take over the real world?


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: mamesso on July 11, 2018, 11:51:45 PM
the factors you have provided are not the ones that would take too much time to implement into the crypto world besides we need to focus on more serious things to happen such as the volatility of price, manipulation and legalization.
You are right and it will take long time that all people come to know about cryptocurrency and invest in it. Till that time it is not possible that crypto would be successful in the real world. But I am sure in the future it will take over the market and all other currencies will disappear from the market. The whole world will use just one currency and that will be crypto.

Like a witch and you're predicting the future.
I do not find that fact and it may happen but now let's think realistically and every information should be accompanied by facts.
I think money will not disappear as long as the government exists and there is no reason to be replaced.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Angela28 on July 12, 2018, 03:02:35 AM
For bitcoin can exist as in the real world we should have more practical actions as we should cherish the values of bitcoin and it is important for us to come to bitcoin with the truth but the way we want it to succeed


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: saadat6868 on July 12, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
 I'm thinking that even a word download and accept some new things from the cryptocurrency world, of course avoiding the malware and hacking programs, will help the developers to be more successful in their progress.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: tambok on July 12, 2018, 07:32:52 PM
I'm thinking that even a word download and accept some new things from the cryptocurrency world, of course avoiding the malware and hacking programs, will help the developers to be more successful in their progress.
That is right, we can always make crypto succeed in the real world by simply supporting it that is why we need to encourage more people so that we can get and aim the price that we want, we need to make everything since the success of bitcoin will be the success of everyone.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kurokyy on July 12, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency will always succeed in the world, it has been announced many time that bitcoins is dead but still it managed to grow even more as the time goes by so cryptocurrency does really have a bright future.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Reeas432 on July 15, 2018, 12:30:40 PM
yes, plainly to understand all matters related to the approach of transaction through using crypto it's far necessary for the improvement of a more convenient for customers of crypto. and of direction this wishes help from all events to build a higher approach of transaction via the use of crypto and this of course will take a long time. i hope that inside the destiny crypto could be a thing to do the transaction without difficulty that may be used by absolutely everyone.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: gandhe83 on July 15, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency will always succeed in the world, it has been announced many time that bitcoins is dead but still it managed to grow even more as the time goes by so cryptocurrency does really have a bright future.
I think so. Electronic money will always be successful. I believe in the future it will help a lot for the community, now the community is gradually adapting. The latter goes on to stabilize. The electronic money is going to spread more. Bring good value to the community as well as this market.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: scoin9 on July 15, 2018, 05:51:00 PM
Cryptocurrency would certainly succeed in the world, because there are many use cases of cryptocurrency in solving real world problems, but before it can really succeed we need to make sure that exchanging cryptocurrency for Fiat is seamless and easy for everyone, Banks have to teamup with cryptocurrency exchanges to ensure that conversion of cryptocurrency to fiat would be seamless.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Rakesh_alejandro on July 15, 2018, 06:28:27 PM
I think For customers it is hard to wait in the coffee shop until they get enough confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are none but many problems in using this currency. Until the moment we do not see a big preparation for this we can not see any progress as a whole. So there is no provision for this purpose and that is why they may not just accept it easily.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Damn3d on July 15, 2018, 11:10:46 PM
I always favoured by communicating with people around me and my real life and encouraging them to be involved in cryptocurrencies I am also contributing into overall progress and development of crypto.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PonyBoy on July 16, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
Also I am communicating with my closest, and I'm not compelling them to join the cryptocurrencies, but I am trying to make them believe that bitcoin is not the bubble in crypto currencies is not the scam schemes. All that is trustworthy and legit.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: TheGreatPython on July 18, 2018, 08:27:00 AM
I supposed if Telegram really launches its crypto, that will be a huge leap forward for the whole sphere as hundreds of millions of users will acquire a tool for extremely easy transfer of crypto inside a messenger and begin using it for everyday transactions.
In this modern world most of the countries are looking at the cryptocurrencies and especially towards the Bitcoin due to many reasons. Those countries where the Bitcoin is tax free and other crypto coins are also tax free their people are very happy and enjoying it. Investors consider it a golden opportunity to get success in this modern world and are appreciating crypto investment for making money.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2018, 09:04:29 AM
Also I am communicating with my closest, and I'm not compelling them to join the cryptocurrencies, but I am trying to make them believe that bitcoin is not the bubble in crypto currencies is not the scam schemes. All that is trustworthy and legit.
Telling the actual thing is needed because many people convincing their friends like you can earn lot of money in short term so they will come to invest without knowing what is bitcoin and how the prices changing.So people will lose their money too by getting more greedy.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: evilgreed on July 18, 2018, 09:06:04 AM
I supposed if Telegram really launches its crypto, that will be a huge leap forward for the whole sphere as hundreds of millions of users will acquire a tool for extremely easy transfer of crypto inside a messenger and begin using it for everyday transactions.
In this modern world most of the countries are looking at the cryptocurrencies and especially towards the Bitcoin due to many reasons. Those countries where the Bitcoin is tax free and other crypto coins are also tax free their people are very happy and enjoying it. Investors consider it a golden opportunity to get success in this modern world and are appreciating crypto investment for making money.


              But it is not that easy as we think it should be. There are lots of things to consider before legalizing it in ones country. For example is that most of the banks are not really into that idea, and second one is that it is good that the number of crypto users specially bitcoin will increase, but it is not that it is compulsory to each and everyone and make their own wallets and use crypto.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: eternalgloom on July 18, 2018, 10:17:23 AM
I think For customers it is hard to wait in the coffee shop until they get enough confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are none but many problems in using this currency. Until the moment we do not see a big preparation for this we can not see any progress as a whole. So there is no provision for this purpose and that is why they may not just accept it easily.

That's what lightning network will solve once it's fully operational and in wide use. So please don't spread misinformation by saying that there is no solution yet for this problem.
Even now there are enough brick and mortar stores that are accepting Bitcoin. Usually they even allow 0 confirmations to make purchases.

Most people just do it fairly and in case of double spends etc. they just eat up the loss.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ava Duvall on July 18, 2018, 11:27:27 AM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.
Technologies qbout crypto is more than enough to sustain all the needs of the people in the world,whats the problem is the People needs to adapts crypto in their daily lives and this must be addressed,if people in the world will only use lall the technologies offered by crypto world,well maybe success in everything inside this community is indeed
But adapting crypto takes time and its a process, that is not so easy. but you are right- adapting crypto into everyday lives people wpuld catch on very quickly, and crypto would succeed


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: boksoon on July 18, 2018, 12:40:41 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

All possible  business  tandem to bitcoin is only secondary the important is more adoption of Bitcoin  is our focus we convince to all our friends and relatives to support to use Bitcoin because this is only our survivor in terms of financial.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: arin_muah on July 18, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.
Technologies qbout crypto is more than enough to sustain all the needs of the people in the world,whats the problem is the People needs to adapts crypto in their daily lives and this must be addressed,if people in the world will only use lall the technologies offered by crypto world,well maybe success in everything inside this community is indeed
But adapting crypto takes time and its a process, that is not so easy. but you are right- adapting crypto into everyday lives people wpuld catch on very quickly, and crypto would succeed
soon or later we will se bitcoin adapted in daily life.in future we can use bitcoin to buy anything.it could be payment system and also as investment portofolio.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: arin_muah on July 18, 2018, 12:50:02 PM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.
Technologies qbout crypto is more than enough to sustain all the needs of the people in the world,whats the problem is the People needs to adapts crypto in their daily lives and this must be addressed,if people in the world will only use lall the technologies offered by crypto world,well maybe success in everything inside this community is indeed
But adapting crypto takes time and its a process, that is not so easy. but you are right- adapting crypto into everyday lives people wpuld catch on very quickly, and crypto would succeed
soon or later we will se bitcoin adapted in daily life.in future we can use bitcoin to buy anything.it could be payment system and also as investment portofolio.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: jsrenthourse on July 18, 2018, 02:48:06 PM
It is too early to think about that when bitcoin can still be exploited. One currency is stable when it can not be exploited by many people, now bitcoin prices are fluctuating very strongly.

With a fluctuating currency, it is only suitable for trading, not for payment, even if it is known to be fast and safe.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bosimpson54 on July 18, 2018, 02:54:19 PM
If Crypto wants to succeed in the real world, I think people need to invent more technology to meet the needs of people's lives through crypto. So we hope Crypto grows closer to our lives.
Technologies qbout crypto is more than enough to sustain all the needs of the people in the world,whats the problem is the People needs to adapts crypto in their daily lives and this must be addressed,if people in the world will only use lall the technologies offered by crypto world,well maybe success in everything inside this community is indeed

In my opinion cryto or blockchain technology is not enough for society to develop, he is right, we need more technology based on blockchain or digital. Maybe now we have not thought about what it is, but there will be a new technology coming out of the development of the internet today


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Coinworld98 on July 18, 2018, 03:41:10 PM
The success or failure of cryptocurrencies depends on all of us who are already partakers or early into the field. We need to actually device means of making the ordinary people appreciate cryptos by showing them live usage.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dlouulmusthofa on July 18, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
the main problem for addopting cryptocurrency uses on a country is regulations on each country, a country that views the good side of crypto will definitely adopt the use of crypto


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: sborders52567 on July 18, 2018, 06:29:22 PM
While BTC and other cryptos are currently hot topic of discussion on the news and in the media, we still have some time to go before it is common talk in conversations.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: webdevmastery on July 18, 2018, 07:25:32 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency will only succeed all over the world if most of the government will legalize cryptocurrency in their own country for everyone to invest and the demand in the market will keep on increasing.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Nick Abimanyu on July 18, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this. 

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

Cryptocurrency will only succeed all over the world if most of the government will legalize cryptocurrency in their own country for everyone to invest and the demand in the market will keep on increasing.

What you say is a fact that happens in the field, the same thing with the country I live in, but at least what it says Vindberg as OP is one of the best ways to grow the use of crypto currencies across the country. If only this can be done simultaneously I want to see what action the government will take at that time.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: hygroscopicgymnasium3 on July 19, 2018, 01:01:38 AM
The struggle is with the government at this stage and we must over come that struggle.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: setialovers on July 19, 2018, 03:04:02 AM
Beside adoption, Government regulation is important thing if we want cryptocurrency success in real world. Beside that, collaboration between cryptocurrency and card issuer like visa or mastercard will be good thing


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: knackergays8 on July 19, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
Seems difficult as there is a lot of competition out there but it will succeed soon.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: SplendidHunter on July 19, 2018, 03:38:40 PM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.
I totally agree with that! Because people are often just rejecting things that you could tell about cryptocurrencies advantages and saying that Bitcoin is a bubble.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: yvesp110 on July 19, 2018, 04:08:07 PM
For bitcoin can exist as in the real world we should have more practical actions as we should cherish the values of bitcoin and it is important for us to come to bitcoin with the truth but the way we want it to succeed

Actually this is natural fact that a thing can’t be promoted without help of its users. Users are the best feedback for either making the product or downing it. In either way, you are best source of information that can be reached to other people. And if you are benefiting from this thing, why not you’re other brothers and sisters must get this chance. More you tell those more they would be attracted.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: chikendrymak4 on July 20, 2018, 02:57:21 AM
The lighting network can help and make easy transactions and that is good.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: MondayTraddd on July 20, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
It is really hassle free and all we need is just a phone and the internet and sorted.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Rianbook on July 20, 2018, 02:48:47 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

I think crypto is successful in the real world, because many people are interested and use crypto as an investment, many of whom use crypto to be a very valuable asset.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: JACKSW4G on July 21, 2018, 04:09:53 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
What principles can be good enough but I think that they are working just in case when they are applied massively and every person involved in cryptocurrency is using it, so we need to do that every each of us.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Sonamziv_99 on July 21, 2018, 04:17:51 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
I believe that in the event that we are taking a gander at wallet's points of view then the bitcoin's locale is entirely great at this, we have around 10-15 distinctive wallet accessible for every sort of working framework, a large portion of the wallets are open source and bugs are being discovered extremely quick by the network, dynamic contributes are accessible at the vast majority of the wallet's githubs channels, and UI is simple. We should take a shot at getting the message out other at that point delivering more wallets frameworks.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: AbuSarap1 on July 21, 2018, 04:19:38 PM
On the off chance that that would have been simple then it could have been now being taken after all over the place. Yet, its not! Dealers fear since they need to track the business, profit, pay expenses and significantly more. There is no arrangement for this reason yet and that is the reason they may not simply acknowledge it so effortlessly. For clients it gets hard to hold up in the café until the point that they get adequate affirmation of the bitcoin procedure. So there are not single but rather numerous issues in utilizing this money. Until the time we dont see immense set up for this then we cannot perceive any advance as entire truly.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kabul on July 21, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
It is hard to make cryptocurrency become successful in my country. There are many rule which make the cryptocurrency less stronger that it used to be. Moreover, the government in my country decide to stop importing cryptocurrency mining gadgets. This is one of the  worst news in this year


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: MiningSensei on July 21, 2018, 08:01:31 PM
The full adoption can only be possible if the governments start cooperating with it, otherrwise, it will NEVER happen, because the most poor people will never know about the existence of it.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Morgann on July 21, 2018, 10:24:32 PM
Beside adoption, Government regulation is important thing if we want cryptocurrency success in real world. Beside that, collaboration between cryptocurrency and card issuer like visa or mastercard will be good thing

Cryptocurrency will always succeed no matter what will happen in the market because people will always invest since they are getting profit due to the volatility.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: phpartisanmaster on July 22, 2018, 12:24:19 AM
The struggle is with the government at this stage and we must over come that struggle.

Cryptoccurrency will succeed just like how bitcoins is taking the place in the market right now, altcoins can also grow if they really have a very good market strategy coming from the developers.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: LuciferEveningStar on July 22, 2018, 12:57:37 AM
The struggle is with the government at this stage and we must over come that struggle.

Cryptocurrency will not succeed on the entire world but in some countries only because not all the governments are agreeing for their people to use cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Blumenkranz on July 22, 2018, 01:08:20 AM
Well it will probably not flourish at the same pace for different countries depending on their governments. Maybe countries that don't accept bitcoin now would accept them in the future once it becomes a trend.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Kez1817 on July 22, 2018, 02:19:56 AM
    I think crypto is in development process at this time.Because crypto is not yet recognize and accepted in other countries. It is not yet fully use as payment method. Other countries are banned bitcoin and others regulate it. Others are just in the process of accepting it.Maybe after a couple of years crypto is succeed in a real world but it is not easy to happen.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: strideynet on July 22, 2018, 06:18:32 AM
while I see one thing that people do not know how to use bitcoin, and bitcoin can not provide the desired transaction speed. up to this point, it is difficult to talk about accepting bitcoin


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: glowing10 on July 22, 2018, 06:53:29 AM
while I see one thing that people do not know how to use bitcoin, and bitcoin can not provide the desired transaction speed. up to this point, it is difficult to talk about accepting bitcoin

Government will play a very important role here as if they accept it and encourages people to go digital then you would find that many will shift to digital rather than using cash. It will be beneficial for every one as well including the bitcoin community.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: dificanovi on July 22, 2018, 07:10:03 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)

yes it should be so, the use of crypto currency in the real world like installing crypto currency apps in stores and in mobile to make buying and selling transactions.
I hope this can happen in my country and in other countries that still do not receive bitcoin as a means of payment.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Jedabucol on July 22, 2018, 07:11:03 AM
Many stores are complained that the bitcoin price is to fluctuate and If price fluctuate too much its very convenient for them to accept cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: Ripa17 on July 22, 2018, 08:38:11 AM
For me many crypto are made for the good purposes and because of this many crypto are sucessful like as bitcoin and many more . Just make a good crypto , good budget and good purpose and i think you get a success.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: PonyBoy on July 23, 2018, 11:16:20 AM
If that would have been easy then it could have been already being followed everywhere. But its not! Merchants fear because they have to track the sales, earnings, pay taxes and much more. There is no provision for this purpose yet and thats why they might not just accept it so easily. For customers it gets difficult to wait in the coffee shop until they get sufficient confirmation of the bitcoin process. So there are not single but many problems in using this currency. Until the time we dont see huge set up for this then we cant see any progress as whole really.
In the end we need to some time to pass because everything that is new and fresh need to adapt in this world and people need to see it tested and working!


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: siracunas on July 23, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
I think we are not landing at that stage yet, right now despite everything we battle with the administration direction and how to make bitcoin to be mass embraced so the value variances could be controlled, how to make a quick and shabby exchange, numerous stores whined that the btc cost is excessively vary and they can't anticipated their benefit and if the cost vacillate excessively its extremely badly arranged for them to acknowledge crypto, when this thing could be settled then we will enter the foundation organize which is the wifi and the wallet setting


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: YNAGS Team on July 23, 2018, 01:40:50 PM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
I'm trying to communicate with my friends and be compelling enough was speaking about cryptocurrencies and convincing them that crypto is positive and they could be beneficial if they will join.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: GangNamSK on July 26, 2018, 08:48:49 AM
The full adoption can only be possible if the governments start cooperating with it, otherrwise, it will NEVER happen, because the most poor people will never know about the existence of it.

Exactly. The application of this
This is only possible if governments start working with it, otherwise.
Then it will NEVER happen, because the poor will not know their existence is absolutely right.
However, there should be fair and equitable solutions and plans for the entire community as well as for investors.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bubble pop on July 26, 2018, 08:53:34 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
crypto is being developed process at this time.Because crypto isn't yet perceive and acknowledged in different nations. It isn't yet completely use as installment technique. Different nations are prohibited bitcoin and others control it. Others are simply during the time spent tolerating it.Maybe following two or three years crypto is prevail in a genuine world yet it is difficult to happen.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: spongegar on July 26, 2018, 09:08:45 AM
I mean these things that we need could actually work in an urban setting where structures is already in place for telecommunication. But what about the rural under developed areas where an economy is blossoming? How will they use crypto currency there if they don't have phones and internet to even hear about it? Wr need infrastructures all over the world for this to work.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: peter_coin on July 26, 2018, 09:56:05 AM
Cryptocurrency is gaining massive popularity in the world today so I have no doubt that it would certainly succeed in the world, many individuals these days all around the world have started massively investing in Cryptocurrency. In the nearest future cryptocurrency would become an accepted medium of payment and this would ensure that it is widely accepted.


Title: Re: Making crypto succeed in the real world?
Post by: bitcoinrays on July 28, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Hi, I would love to hear your input on this.

As I see it, we need crypto wallets installed on every phone possible to ensure the readiness of everyday payment with crypto assets. Once customers are ready to pay, the stores will follow.

At least three things needs to happen:

1) Adoption of crypto wallets needs to increase (preferable with pre-funded assets)
2) Each wallet provider needs to agree on a standard protocol for payment (Maybe Payment Request API (http://Payment Request API) (W3))?
3) Store owners need a merchant app to receive payment with further integration into multiple accounting systems.

Have you seen anyone doing this?
Do we need a wallet alliance that can stipulate a standard?
What else needs to happen besides regulation?

Best crypto greetings,
Vindberg
https://validators.com (https://validators.com)
I'm trying to communicate with my friends and be compelling enough was speaking about cryptocurrencies and convincing them that crypto is positive and they could be beneficial if they will join.
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