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Broken BTC withdrawals from Gox are piling up bigtime as we speak.  There are nearly 200 broken transactions -- totaling almost 4000 BTC -- and some have been waiting more than four days!!  Most are stuck due to outpoints already spent.  Data is here: http://skanner.net/MtGox/mtgox_tx.php

And yes, 25% of my own BTC are currently stuck (26 hours and counting).

There has been zero official acknowledgment of the issue, and they're not even responding to support tickets related to this situation.  The only contact anyone has made with them is with their IRC consultants who don't know a damn thing.  The IRC support stated that they think "it is being caused by a bug or attack of some sort," but they haven't provided any additional information at all.

This is getting serious... VERY serious.  

UPDATE 1:  (1400 EST, 26 JAN 2014)  This situation is reaching EPIC proportions.  Current broken TX status: More than 400 broken TX totalling nearly 10,000 BTC!!  With skanner.net being broken, as well, you can track the current broken TX situation here: http://thegoxreport.com/

UPDATE 2:  (2230 EST, 28 JAN 2014)  Current broken TX status: 1654 broken TX!!!

Ouch.  I just had a terrible experience with virwox...hope you all get your btc in an expedient manner! One of the few pitfalls of no regulation in the bitcoin trading market. :(

Simple: Don't use Gox.

gee, you must be really fun at parties.   ::)

Dont drink the punch, It might be pee xD

I know the truth hurts for you. But some of you need to hear it.  :)

just got my BTC withdraw instantly, had this before you just have to wait

Mine has been 72 hours now. Still waiting.

Wow, You should open up a support ticket, Thats too long.

It's getting out of hand.  Some are actually on day 6 waiting for their resend!  

My small one actually got pushed through after 55 hours; however, I still have 75% of my coins there, and I'm afraid to even try pulling them off.  

This situation is reaching EPIC proportions.  Current broken TX status:  More than 400 broken TX totalling nearly 10,000 BTC!!

With skanner.net being broken, as well, you can track the current broken TX situation here: http://thegoxreport.com/

I'm completely freaked out at this point...  :(

mtgox btc withdraw always smooth, never have a problem

They have been hearing the warnings for SIX months!

The market is now pricing in a 20% chance that customers of MtGox will get 0% of their money back.

As I said, Make a support ticket, These assholes are probably going to scam now.

It's clear that Mt. Gox is near collapse. No USD withdrawals for eight months, delayed EUR withdrawals, delay on JPY withdrawals, delay on BTC withdrawals, and a 22% spread against other markets. How many red flags do you need?

This isn't a "support ticket" issue. This is a "send lawyers, guns, and money" issue. Anybody with money stuck in Mt. Gox should be talking to a lawyer, the Japan Financial Services Agency, the US SEC (yes, they have jurisdiction because Mt. Gox registered with FinCen, sells to US persons, and has an office in Delaware), and suing in the Delaware Justice of the Peace court, the Delaware Chancery Court, or in Japan.

It's important that some victim make this problem known to law enforcement in Japan. That will keep the principals of Mt. Gox from fleeing the country.

Whilst I understood the fiat problems, I never had a problem with BTC withdrawals before now. It's not necessarily the problem, but the fact that Mtgox are so quiet about it that is worrying. I know it's weekend. I guess nobody works on a weekend, right?

Yeah this doesn't seem great

Drew 10BTC this afternoon, all went smoothly; tried to draw another 10 a couple hours later and I've yet to see any action in my client window though it's gone from my Gox balance allegedly

Found my receiving address on that Gox Report list. Hope it's really just backlog or a glitch or something rather than them pulling a fast one. I was using Gox all last year to draw yen and never had an issue with them, so this is all really disappointing

As I posted in another topic:

It's clear that Mt. Gox is near collapse. No USD withdrawals for eight months, delayed EUR withdrawals, delay on JPY withdrawals, delay on BTC withdrawals, and a 22% spread against other markets. How many red flags do you need?

This isn't a "support ticket" issue. This is a "send lawyers, guns, and money" issue. Anybody with money stuck in Mt. Gox should be talking to a lawyer, the Japan Financial Services Agency, the US SEC (yes, they have jurisdiction because Mt. Gox registered with FinCen, sells to US persons, and has an office in Delaware), and suing in the Delaware Justice of the Peace court, the Delaware Chancery Court, or in Japan.

It's important that some victim make this problem known to law enforcement in Japan. That will keep the principals of Mt. Gox from fleeing the country.

You have more coin there and you're afraid to try and pull it out? It seems as if that would be 100% guaranteed loss? I'm not sure why you would try and test it. I just received my BTC withdrawal after 5 days of waiting, so it seems as if something is moving through but it is VERY backed up.

It feels to me as if it's a sooner than later situation since it looks to be getting worse by the day. Very scary.

Update:  478 total trx affected and 11,178 BTC and growing.

Support tickets there are being ignored for weeks.  My ticket was ignored for days until I made a lot of noise in IRC, then had MagicalTux personally resend my tx just to shut me up... lol.

Others, though? not so lucky.

I know I have said this many times, But threaten them for lawsuit. It always makes them shit bricks and give you your money back.

The feds need to give Gox its money back

Threatening Gox is really ineffective from my experience.  These threats are certainly common and Gox support is conditioned to ignore them.  Alternatively, filing an actual lawsuit will go directly to legal, bypassing support, and may actually accomplish something.

I know right? Just tell your lawyer proof that the are your funds and they will have to give them back. Because if those werent your funds, You can go to jail, and I think a hacker wouldnt go to court if he says he was the rightful owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U

^ dat :)

Excellent!  I rate that up there with Zhou Tonged's 'End of Silk Road'.

If I understand it right, no BTC is lost, they just need fix the code and resend BTC. Will take many days probably, but nothing exceptional on mtGox

Waiting 4 days now, no response from Mtgox support, no annoucement from Mtgox.

Ive been waiting 50+ hours for a Bitcoin transfer to show up. Interestingly I made a ticket for support after 2 hours. I also just made a test ticket...see the tickets below

#199907 Withdrawn Bitcoin not showing in blockchain/wallet (48 hours ago)

#201586 test test (just then)

1679 support tickets in 48 hours

Is there a similar tread for intersango? I've btc stuck there since November...

the number of failed transaction dropped from approx 770 to 429, so fingers crossed, this isn't anything serious.

I've been waiting from saturday!!

Just got this message from support:

Damien, Jan 28 12:49:

Dear Valued customer,

Thank you for your email and sincere apologies for the delay.

Due to a technical issue this weekend we broadcast again every transaction to Bitcoin Network but it take sometimes for the network to spread the change. Our developers are actively on a solution to speed up the process but it may take up to 48h to fix the issue.

We sincerely apologies for the inconveniences.

Best regards,

MtGox Team
https://www.mtgox.com

[Attention: Please protect your account using OTP to ensure that your funds are safe and secure. Failing to do so makes your information vulnerable to hackers.
Please visit https://mtgox.com/security]

What do people think? Is it legit?

It look real and have no link to click. see inside email header

Just got a BTC withdrawal from Mt Gox (0.7 btc). It only took 15 mins. Still waiting on one more from Saturday.

Is it better to just get BTC out and take a hair cut, or try to withdraw USD via wire to US bank? I don't mind waiting if it'll eventually be sent, I'm just worried I'll never get it.

The only way to withdraw USD from Gox is the very little advertised emergency withdrawal with 5% extra fee (and more than 6 weeks' wait). This has been true for several months now.

EUR and JPY are a separate matter. They do seem to work (with barely acceptable delays, but still).

I reckon things will be fine, withdrawals seem to be working again. If you panic now, you're going crystallize your loss.

I took the haircut late last night (@1013.5), and then it dropped to my previous exit point (@925) this evening... lost ~10% in BTC... DOH!! :(

Meanwhile, 75% of my coins are stuck (again!) with broken withdrawal TX... Double-DOH!

Everything will be fine. Stop worrying.

I'm mostly annoyed and worried about the thousands in potential earnings that I'm missing out on during this drop.  I'm also concerned that it may take 5-7 days, which means BTC could tank (based on Chinese drama) before I get my coins back to sell.

These are legitimate concerns, so I'm not sure how/why people downplay them as though they're meaningless.  I guess it's not your money, though, right?

Do you realize that your "potential earnings" and the troubles with fiat withdrawals are the same thing ?

http://thegoxreport.com/

Thanks for the link (opet), I just found my "transaction" in there.

People can look under link - Address List
and - JSON Datafeed for bad transactions

just search your BTC address

Delerium's tool for MTGox failed TX's does not seem to be working

NB: I could not find mine earlier today, so if you do look and cannot find anything, check back later

                              

Guys, Good news BTC withdrawals are being resolved slowly but surely.
I just received 100 btc which was 7 days old. So have some patience, you'l receive yours eventually.

So I just tried to withdraw all my coins by breaking it down in 5-10btc withdrawals. Half of them went through, the other half didn't show up in the blockchain. It seems completely random. I hope I will see the other half soon enough. I'm happy I got at least half safe and sound now though. I think what they should do right now is stop withdrawals until the current backlog is cleared. This surely won't be a popular move when they announce it but will likely help tremendously. They need crisis management right now.

well it wouldn't be such good news if in 7 days when I receive them if the price has collapsed.

Gox has taken control of my assets and will not communicate with me. Thus, I can not control my property in an arena that is anything but stable.

I don't think "patience" in these circumstances is a virtue. 

This.  And the following:

Gox is closing in on 20,000 BTC stuck in 'bad TX'. This number was approximately 4,000 BTC on Saturday and 15,000 BTC only 24hrs ago. http://thegoxreport.com/

just withdrew 6.25 BTC and nothing on the block chain for 2 hours now.

992 stuck transactions now, and growing.  

Gox probably has to wait for some suckers to make deposits before doing withdrawals.

This just screams "last stages of Ponzi scheme."

This is insane.

Since I moved to Bitstamp in June I have done a dozen btc withdrawals and they all took just minutes to be seen on the blockchain.

Gox is goxxing its customers like pigs on a spit.

Hell NO!

I figure at this point that if I am ever to see my money, it'll probably be from the pool that the Feds appropriated.  Even that's a long-shot (but it doesn't help that I've not gotten around to filing some sort of claim.)

Nagski, do you have any actual useful pointers about filing a claim.  I'm planning to claim the value of 50 BTC at Coinbase rates, and this is well out of the range of small-claims.  The chances of getting my money even in the best of circumstances are so low that I don't think it's worth hiring legal help.

After trying for 6 months to get my fiat out, I decided enough was enough & converted the $7,000 or so I had stuck in Gox to BTC (at $200 over the going rate on other exchanges).

Now I can't even get at that BTC - withdrawal has been missing for about 7 days now.  No responses to tickets or any attempts to contact them.

To be frank, I hope this guy (Mark) goes to jail.  Shady business practices and terrible operational management for what was once seen as the defacto Bitcoin exchange just tarnish the image of Bitcoin (and sends a message to others that it's OK to operate businesses in the crypto-world like a 5 year old).  I won't shout Ponzi just yet, but I think we all see where this is heading.  If it does materialize that way, then yep lock him up.

Still hoping I get my money back, but Gox is a spent force - done for - still don't understand why people continue to deposit - but please do, your deposits will no doubt fund my BTC withdrawal if it ever comes through.

my thoughts exactly. Im waiting 84 hours now for 32 coins. If Gox has run out of Bitcoins will they buy more of another exchange to fight the fires, to keep this dying exchange's heart ticking? This assumes they have fiat.

Currently about 20000BTC are stuck in failed transactions from Gox, that nearly matches the remaining BTCleft on Mt. Gox askside.
[tinfoil hat on] Maybe they are already out of coins.[tinfoil hat off]

Look here about the missing withdrawls:
http://thegoxreport.com/

and the remaining asks on Gox
http://trading.i286.org/



BTW: The daily missing tx (18770)and the remaining(18870) match each other nearly exactly

o fugg.

I am on that list too :(

what now?

Ouch, some serious money is held up here. I thought my 30 BTC was a lot (5 days now...). 1100 BTC? Wow.

I think he meant 1100$.

From the looks of the following website, which I guess every MtGox client whose transaction hasn't appeared on the blockchain yet has been closely monitoring (http://skanner.net/MtGox/mtgox_tx.php), one could make two comments:
-Big transactions (50-200BTC) have an estimated transaction size much bigger than small transactions (0.xxxBTC), although this prioritization only happened lately
-Transactions are slowly being processed (personally my transaction had a size of 956 on Mon.-Tues., now this value is getting smaller and smaller).

Here (http://thegoxreport.com/) you can see that the number of daily failed TXs have dropped by 300 (out of 1000+ transactions = 30% decrease) in the past hours.

actually, I think he did mean 1100 BTC.   :o

That said, the number of broken TX just DOUBLED in the last hour!!!!!!!  It was down to around 800, but has now jumped to 1700!  Things just got very VERY serious.

75% of my coin worth is currently stuck in limbo, and even their manual rebroadcast of my coins failed AGAIN early this morning.

get out the pitchforks, boys... we're about to go to war.

EDIT:  thegoxreport.com is broken, so the true count is no longer on Dizko's charts there.  You have to use skanner.net to see the current broken TX!

This is the message I receive under Withdrawal Center, is this common?

I've never seen that.  Do you have a lot of coin or cash there?

Unverified? 

I have this too now... just noticed when I went to make a test withdrawal. First time I ever saw this. Verified user here.

whats the longest time to wait for recieving a broken tx ???

is Gox fixing this automatically or are multiple tickets needed ?

somebody got an unbroken transaction for today already?

I just tried 7 and 10 BTC withdrawls both didn´t appear in the chain....


Thanks

This is a follow up from my post about 1100 coins about 5 posts ago.  I just received my first communication from Mt. Gox within the last hour (Been waiting for 6 days).  It was about 10 emails from Ashley from support, all of which were automated saying she merged my request with my original ticket created 6 days ago (I had sent about 10 emails to support).  So she merged them, without saying anything of substance.  At least it looks like someone is employed there and looking at support tickets.  Let's just hope they get to the bottom of this large problem soon.

Let´s hope for the best. No one should face such kind of problems. Please keep us updated.

There actually was a reply once I logged into my support ticket help desk.  Here it is:

Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for the email. We have merged all your tickets for a better follow up. We can see that your withdrawal is yet to be processed. The transactions are being re-issued automatically, however we will also escalate this to our developers and update you once the withdrawal is processed. On checking we could find that 1 of your withdrawal of 100 BTC has been processed. Please refer the below link:

<took out link>

We will keep you updated once the other withdrawal gets processed.

Best regards,

MtGox Team
https://www.mtgox.com

Verified.  My support ticket asking what this is about is 3 days old now.

Good to hear. Some sign of life there. Keep us posted

I am a Trusted Account holder and have been using MtGox for more than 3 years.

Quite some BTC coins stuck now for 6 days. USD stuck for more than 5 months. No response to multiple support tickets. A tweet to Mark Karpeles with my support ticket reference got no reply.

Can anyone recommend a lawyer, preferable Tokyo based, to formally notify MtGox and its directors and put them in breach ?





 

yeah man!  agreed
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Good to hear. Some sign of life there. Keep us posted
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If you're in the US, you can sue them in Delaware. Mt. Gox registered with FinCen, established a US "office" in Delaware, and is thus subject to US law.

I don't want to sue because it will very likely be throwing good money after bad to hire an attorney and all that crap.  Plus it would be a giant hassle.

What I would like to do is somehow attach a claim to some of the money (~$5M) that the U.S. Govt appropriated from Mutum Smegma, LLC or whatever they call it.

Anyone with legal experience know if such a thing is possible?

I made a semi-formal proposal to Mt. Gox to roll back the transactions which I performed specifically and exclusively to receive a wire and kept documentation of this offer.  So, I expect to be claiming more than the value of the wire that they never sent after 6 months of waiting.  (Don't expect to get it though, but who knows?)

MtGox is dead, there is no money for the pay out,  and it is our trapped and lost money forever.  :'(

Mon 27-1 7:36 I transferred 1.4 BTC from Mtgox... this never appeared in the blockchain.
at 7:40 I transferred the same amount. This instantly appeared in the blockchain and in my wallet.

Yesterday I made a support ticket. No answer yet  >:(

I'll keep u informed.
Can anyone with technical background explain what might be causing this error? Safety of the Bitcoin network is one of the main advantages of Bitcoin. Disappearing transactions is serious shit.

They are expirencing some unusual kind of a DoS attack. As I get it, someone deposits his gox account with lots of dust (small) transactions.
And when you try to withdraw your BTC, Gox uses its hot wallet which is full of that dust.  So, it builds your tx from that dust, and your tx becomes too large (with lots of small inputs).

And then...

From IRC:

IS ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO GOT ANY BTC WITHDRAWL BROKEN OR UNBROKEN IN THE LAST 24 hours?  ???

BTC withdrawal was last working for me on Jan 27th. Not today though.

I received my BTC withdrawal today after 4 days delay

Thanks for the info, if it would be "just" that then I would be so relived!
...what I just don't understand is, why the heck cant they make an official statment on twitter, facebook, this forum, etz.
Then I think a lot of people (including me) would be a lot more calm!


I made an withdraw (7 btc !!!!) over 60 Hours ago and it still did not arive or even get listed on the blockchain.
But I found it listed on http://skanner.net/MtGox/mtgox_tx.php as a broken transaktion...
I also made a small test withdraw of 0.04 BTC today and that arived with no problem, within 1 hour

Has it come there automatically ?  or how many tickets were needed ? got the support even involved?

Thanks

I wrote to the IRC support 2 days ago. But I don't think they sent me BTC manually. It looks like their system tried to send BTC automatically several times, and the last attempt was successful. Pure luck.

Do the employees over there still get their salary, if there should be anyone left(employees or money) :D :D .

Have your missing 1100 BTC made some progress or has the well run dry finally?

thanks

No progress other than what I had mentioned in previous posts.

some news on the OP?.....not just that the count is 1476 right now.... :-\

good news...the count deliberatly went down to 570....bad news: none of my 3 failed tx of different amounts which were seen in the scanner  entered  the chain....one of them is not even found  in the scanner anymore  :-\


good news : I made 4 new withdrawls right now of which three of ´em immediatly entered the blockchain ! :D

bad news: the fourth and there I tried the biggest amount of 5 BTC got stuck again :-[

You're a dumbass for admitting of breaking their ToS. They can actually seize and lock your account. What are you? 10?


 

And youre one of the dumbest persons ever. You ever thought if hes got a trusted account with 10k BTC daily withdrawal limit, you idiot?

Better ask before insulting other people.

Care to elaborate?  Because to me, you are the one sounding like the 10 year old retard

He implies that you have a verified account where the daily withdrawal is 100 BTC. You withdrew 1000 BTC in one day which would be only possible by cheating the system with a verified account. With a trusted account however you can withdraw up to 10000

You should refer to them when talking about breach of ToS !

What is a bitcoin exchange where you can´t withdraw bitcoins and support can´t or don´t want to do anything about counting in weeks by now ???

That got to be closed by Fincen !

Cheers

No doubt
They will be closed very soon.
Every kind of withdraw will be slower than slower. It seems they are not dead, actually they are. You can't get anything out at the end.

According to The Gox Report, daily broken BTC amount is currently going up by 7,000 a day (and rising), for a current deficit of 35,000 BTC. Does anyone have a figure of the total BTC deposited in their system? This would serve as a pretty good timer for when they will finally collapse.

Thanks for explaining... Still waiting on my coins or a reply...

Anyone with programming knowledge think this a fixable problem?  If so what is a reasonable amount of time, like a few days?  What are chances they are just being lazy vs. committing some sort of heist?  I hope I'm not falsely optimistic.  :(

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So now its not anymore reasonable to excuse the missing of their contractual obligations by broken tx causes more broken tx.blablabla...whats-o-ever....

They are infringing their own ToS and should be notified to send the missing bitcoins out of their or even Marks pocket directly to the tortured owners !!


Who else wants  them to be be notified by a laywer ??

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Those 25 % of 125 should be enough for employing one ;)

Great pull.  Where do you think the lawyer would need to be licensed? 

http://www.horitsu-sodan.jp/s_center/fore_english.html

Does anyone else find it humourous that the legal center for foreigners has an appointment line that only speaks Japanese?  I guess you have to walk in if you can't talk the talk?

yeah thats funny but it can be done by fax...

whats Mt. Gox actual Fax number?

I'm in the same boat 44 btc withdrawn on the 25th Jan and still no coins and no answer to support tickets. 44 bitcoin is a lot of money to me and consequently this is a very stressful time. I need to exchange some of those coins for fiat so I can honor some of my financial obligations.

MTGOX run their business like 10 year old children. It's looking day by day that I've been robbed.

If I ever get my coins back I'm going to smash my Gox yubi key and never use their shitty exchange again.

MTGOX are not fit for purpose.

From another thread on here but incase some of you have not looked at it

https://mtgox.zendesk.com/entries/26501000-Statement-Regarding-BTC-Withdrawal-Delays

I'm missing a 2 BTC Transaction too. Hopefully there will be a solution soon...

Same with me. Waiting for 2 BTC for 4 days now. Still nothing in blockchain yet.

if its really just a glitch which just concerns a "limited" number of withdrawls...

they should be obliged as is written in the ToS to pay those transaction with a markup of 25 % !!!

after over a week delay for a bitcoin transaction thats really a gross misconduct of doing buiseness and they are responsible and liable for those delays by contractual obligation !

Action clause anybody? ;)

Because they released that statement today, I feel like they're working on it.  However, come next week, I believe I will be contacting an attorney that accepts BTC in attempts to resolve this case (and others if they choose) on a contingency basis (no upfront cost, but offering them a bigger reward - the 25% surcharge that Gox will be required to pay out for their breach of terms). 

I also had one withdrawal held up in the broken tx list for 2 days, but i just tried another withdrawal (smaller amount) today, almost instant broadcast to the network, doesn't look like liquidity issue at Gox side, maybe some technical glitch.  

Why does that suggest anything? If Gox is wrapping up, they would not just stop sending withdrawals.They would do it proportionately, paying the longest game possible. A con outfit always has some customers that will excuse its behaviour.

i made two withdrawals today and they worked, hopefully just technical glitches 

resting 48 transactions the shit got cleared supposedly judging by the scanner.....

still my 4 missing transactions haven´t entered the chain yet....

fuuuuckkkkkkkk....even as all broken tx have alledgedly  been cleared now...they are not coming through the blockchain !!


anybody is seeing them already there?

That would only be true if people were still depositing millions in fiat or BTC, which somehow I doubt is happening. If nothing much gets deposited, and it's a scam, then just stop pretending, and disappear with the millions you've got.

how much?

the count is back to over 1000 tx failed and nothing went to chain........thats all smoke and mirrors !!

What are the chances that they honestly return us our coins?

actually none if Mark is not threatened to lose his own stash by this buiseness practice !

and if they are really working on it then quite successfully but not in our interest because now they are holding back a record 37000 BTC´s !!! ;)

And it seems to be growing as well, not falling. This has been an issue for months now. Why is it only gox has this issue?

THey need to get this fixed.

they invented this to perpetrate the heist as long as possible....so your lethargy needs to be fixed or this will be the biggest heist in bitcoin - history ;)

Who honestly knows what's going on at Gox head quarters. I'm hoping that it's a technical problem combined with gross incompetence and that it'll be resolved in the near future.

This is causing me major stress. It's been 8 days since I made a 44 btc withdrawal and I'm still waiting. I have a similar amount of btc on gox that I'm to afraid to withdraw my total net worth is locked up with those assholes . I've sent 2 support tickets without response. It doesn't look good to me and I'm starting to feel like I've been robbed.

I'm trying to keep positive about this.

This update really says nothing. But it does say you can be rest assured it isnt affecting everyone. LOL as if that makes people who are waiting feel any better.

Gox is a joke and should close up shop. The signs are there for a collapse. It will likely only get worse from here as it only has gotten worse since MTGOX got hacked back in 2011.

Similarly any ponzi scheme will claim that you just "need to wait a little bit longer before you get your money". They do not operate in a reasonable amount of time they take money from one user to give to another. Hoping new suckers send them more fiat so they can pay off their obligations.

do you have tx id?

I made my first test deposit into Mt Gox today using a small amount of BTC from Cryptsy. It ended up working fine, but Cryptsy took nearly 4 hours to debit my account for the withdrawal. After the Cryptsy debit showed up, my balance was at Mt Gox in about 5 minutes. Been having a fair bit of Cryptsy over the last 72 hours.

Also, can't get a Cryptsy BTC/BTB trade to cancel from 01/18. Have submitted a trouble ticket that has received nothing but "auto-acknowledgment" so far.

Cryptsy seems to be the best alt-exchange out there, but it leaves a LOT to be desired. Anyone else think there is a better alternative to Cryptsy?

Start of my 6th day of waiting for my BTCs, and absolutely no way will Gox even acknowledge my tickets

I will never use Gox again - even when the site works it's a pile of shit anyway, slow and confusing, letting you put in orders without funds, not even an obvious place to look whether you have a deposit confirming (use the blockchain)

Bastards

I received a response to my support tickets from Gox.

It's a slight glimmer of hope I guess, however, it's quite insulting at the same time. How the fuck am I meant to be reassured that the problem only affects a limited number of users?

I can't see why their developers can't write a script and get these bitcoins moving through the blockchain.

There's a major problem here and I can only logically see it being 1 of 4 things.

1. They've been robbed via a hacker.
2. They're actually insolvent as many have speculated.
3. They're doing a sheep market slow kill type heist by stopping withdrawals and accumulating funds.
4. They're a complete bunch of incompetent fuck wits who don't have the skills to run a bitcoin exchange with a million accounts.

What options do we have? Any forum members have any suggestions? A social media campaign to warn about the risks involved with depositing funds with Gox maybe?

I'm desperate for my btc withdrawal and support ticket responses like this are like I said, insulting.

They need to be notified by a law -firm that according to their own ToS are now liable to pay out 125 % of the failed transactions in the next 48 hours or otherwise

the police is seizing whats to be had of Marks own stash   ;)

may be it even wasn´t intended from the get go....but what would you do if there are suddenly 35 million dollars piling up in your hands and you can win a lot of time as everybody

sits on his hand hoping while nobody is threatening you by anything ??? ........ you may need to close the marketshare losening buiseness in the process but WTF another incentive

for not fixing anything....

I've started sending tweets to people associated with Gox

E.g. I had a look who Mark Karpeles, aka ‏ @MagicalTux , follows.

Then I've randomly found a few he follows and tweeted to ask what they think about this issue - I always put @MagicalTux in with the tweet, just so he knows (if he bothers to read) that I'm calling Gox out.

The Bitcoin foundation is another place I'll start on next. I'll probably find a few finance sections of newspapers, media outfits, and tweet them, again with a @MagicalTux attached. I might also try it using individuals from the Bitcoin foundation seeing as it is so fcuking Goxy anyway. Anything to embarrass them in front of their peers.

Maybe it won't work. but it will annoy them.

Great work. It was about time that somebody does this. I really appreciate this.

Have had btc in MtGox for almost a year.  Made one or two withdrawals over the last year no problem.  Now, logging in for the first time this year I get "Your account has been restricted from accessing funding options. Please contact support@mtgox.com for additional information on why your account has been restricted."  My shown btc balance is correct however.  Really an annoyance as I need to withdraw some to pay bills.  I suspect the new year celebrations are playing a part.

How can MtGox have maintained its inflated value (presently 114.8% compared to coinbase) and stay in business?  Simple math says buy elsewhere and sell on MtGox and that by many would quickly put it out of business!?  If a MtGox "in-crowd" did exactly that, depleting its fiat reserve while at the same time blocking non-in-crowd btc owners from leaving or selling, it would explain a lot.

So, who would be to blame, MtGox which tried to maintain stability during the crash of April last year by stopping trades (while bitfloor and others traded as usual) as the US stock exchange stops computer trading when it has trouble, or are the US banks to blame, banks that may have punished MtGox for exactly that attempt to maintain stability, e.g. US banks probably the cause for the very sharp rise up over $1000 then almost crash the day before US Senate hearings on Bitcoin?

Gox have done this with a bunch of accounts. It means you need to send off documents and get them officially notarized with an apostille. It basically means anybody with Verified that hits a threshold will now need Trusted status. If you have any funds they are basically confiscated until you send docs and get approved, BTC included. It's very odd that they did this just as the BTC withdrawal problem hit.

There is approximately 1300 stuck transactions as we speak, and the problem has been well known and acknowledged for a week now.

In 7 days, I would have the time to send them out myself with bitcoin-qt provided I had access to private keys with sufficient funds. I don't buy the technical issue, I can't believe mtgox techs are not able to fix a system which picks up already spent outputs in 7 days.

So to me, there is only two options:

1. They don't want to send out bitcoins, for whatever reason, perhaps because they try to mitigate the spread caused by bank wire delays.

2. They can't send them out, because they are actually insolvent. Perhaps because of a hack, fractional reserve with bad money management, or even human error causing loss of private keys.

In either case, don't you think we should contact a lawyer ASAP to force them to give us back our money? Even in case 2), I suspect MtGox owners can cover the losses using their personal assets.

Odd yes.  The last withdrawal I made to pay bills around Christmas was 1 BTC and it went through perfectly.  There was no additional btc added to MtGox and the value has dropped about $100/btc since then so by any measure the account is less valuable than when I made my last withdrawal.  

Edit: Failing memory, looking back at my records that 1btc withdrawal was early in Dec 13 but later I made a sizable withdrawal to buy a Neptune and by that time the Neptune cost was > than FINCen allows to be sent from the US in one day.  So, perhaps a FINCen objection or a MtGox problem.  I understand I have until June to register my MtGox 2013 account with FINCen, but it will probably happen after I wade thru the instructions for the irs 1040 and have gotten my docs from my US bank which says it will probably mail those on 1/31.  The MtGox account value is such that it has never triggered the IRS $50k requirement but last year could have triggered the FINCen $10k requirement tho the account has always been in btc except for sub-$300 deposits to immediately buy btc.

Their silence on the issue is a red flag. Sending users boiler plate responses with no value or information is pointless and the only motive could be to BUY TIME.

Any ponzi needs to buy time and sucker new investors to pay old ones to stay alive.

If MTGOX was honest they would have a message on their front page that they are having USD etc withdrawal issues. Instead they do not have this and the average joe goes there thinking they will be able to use their exchange in the traditional sense where you can withdrawal your funds (both fiat and BTC) whenever you want with little to no delays.

4, 5, 6, 7+ days to withdrawal BTC is essentially BS. There is no excuse to not be able to fix this for their users in a reasonable amount of time unless something else happened and they don't want to disclose that.

I have no intention of doing anything illegal and plan to pay my rightful share of taxes.  I hope this freeze on my btc held by MtGox isn't anything serious.  Since I am above board with my dealings I may have to remove all my btc from MtGox.

MTGOX shouldn't let people deposit funds before they are verified. Given they do it says they prefer to hold extra funds hostage until people get "verified" to their standards.

I have been fully verified since early last year.  Unaware of the "normal" delay, what is it about a month(?),  I continued to send various documents attesting to the place of my residence and citizenship, documents well beyond what they were requesting.

Well try following me - @Broken_Gox

I only made this a couple of hours ago - I also got an cheap domain and hosting deal from godaddy to compliment the Twitter

http://brokengox.info/

Excuse typos, spelling mistakes or wrong info. It literally took me an hour to make the site, during which I was planning a sustainability event in Brussels

And still, no BTC has arrived from Gox

I contacted a lawyer in Japan about MtGox withdrawal "problems".

I was surprised he already knew the case because someone already contacted him about it Friday. He said he will be able to take the case. Also, customers grouping dramatically increases chances of success. If you are interested, please reply to this post or PM me.

We must act fast, as time flies, our chances of getting our monies back decreases significantly.

btc or jpy? i have btc

does the layer understand what is bitcoin and how can he make gox pay?

In my case, I have BTC stuck in outstanding withdrawals, and USD balance. The lawyer is already aware of bitcoin as some users already contacted him about the problem.

how did you find him? how much he charges? what is his plan? do we really need a layer by the way, may be we can contact police and other govt agencies?

He was recommended by a friend of mine. His charges will be discussed later and will probably depend on the number of users and total amount involved.
A first step with certainly be a formal request to MtGox and the rest will depend on what they (not) respond.
By the way, I don't see any agency that might help us directly.

I am in, seems I lost 8BTC so far, happy to contribute to the legal action.
I did multiple withdrawals, I have video recorded all old school way, courts prefer that rather than a camtasia style video can be easily faked.

anyone with BTC stuck over the past week but eventually arrived? just want to evaluate if Gx is really resolving the issue or just BS.

not sure that's the best way to go, I suspect it's an issue of needing to get back in the black after the seizure etc, I'm still not sure what happened with the 75 million lawsuit.

we know it's a profitable business, if we demand payment now they may just go bankrupt and we will only receive a portion.

around 3.5 coins stuck with gox here, been a week now, I really hope they can solve this crap instead of trying to run away with our money.

Just received mine after 8 days.

mind telling us how much?
i have suspicion that only small withdrawals go through

I've been waiting over 5 days for my 1.87BTC.

My withdrawal meets the criteria of a small transaction and a long time since trying to get it.

but to be honest not SO many people are posting about missing withdrawals.... I would say I saw about 20-30
 or may be gox had already not so many customers? what the fuck were I thinking?

Correct - less than 1.

I am not an expert, but does the size of the withdrawal can affect the txn?

I mean all this stats http://skanner.net/MtGox/mtgox_tx.php like LT large txn etc, is it all complete nonsense or it makes sense for somebody here?
Why other exchanges don't have this type of errors?

While idling on #mtgox freenode for the last week I mostly heard the error 'Outpoints already spent' (like my withdrawal, but large and small amounts of BTC were affected).
Dunno about 'Large Transaction Size', try asking on #mtgox.

can this really be a bug? or it is just a simulated bug meant to hold some % of medium and big txn. i am wondering are they playing with fire? I am not sure that we can't put them in prison if this is just a show

they own me 20 btc in stuck. I will join you. What is the step?

let the laywer know that according to their ToS he can make them liable for up to 125 % of the withheld value.......and in this multimillion dollar case he should move quickly after the beef

as the frenchmen is obviously preparing himself to escape, if not located and arrested ASAP !  am in on this as well 23.5 BTC at stake.....please keep us informed

are screenshots enough to proof the matter in case?

I haven't logged in Gox account for over 6 months. I logged in today and saw I had 1.20 Bitcoins left over. Went to withdraw and it is gone :[ My TX appears in the list so all is not lost.

Maybe it makes sense to contact the Bitcoin Foundation that they influenced him and found out the real situation?

I do not think they would respond.

for WTF exists a bitcoin - foundation then?  they are surely complicit in this heist with all those scammer personalities at the helm !

being member of BTC foundation leads behind iron bars -----  not sure if they really just worked hard enough for this image yet-  Congrats ;)
 !

I have a "very sizable" bitcoin transaction that has been hung up in a failed Mt. Gox transaction for 10 days now. I was attempting to remove all my coins from Mt. Gox (because I have lost all my confidence in them) and the transaction never made it to the blockchain.

I have received several (3) generic "boiler-plate" responses from Mt. Gox Support (the same message they posted on their Support Forum about how "this is only affecting a small number of users," etc. But I am watching the total value of stuck transactions exceed 40,000 bitcoins (that's $32.3 million USD at Bitstamp prices) and 41,000 bad transactions.

We NEED legal action before Mt. Gox absconds with all our money. The problem is getting WORSE. not better.

btcinsight, can you please post the lawyer's contact information here so we may all send him/her the specific details of our individual cases? This could turn into a class-action situation very quickly if Mt. Gox doesn't reply to legal notification.

It the lawyer English-speaking?

I am an foundation member and I sent an email to the fund.

Hello.

I am a member of the fund . You need to give an answer about the delay in the withdrawal of coins Exchange mtgox.com which is a gold member of the organization.
I have a week can not get my coins and technical support team is not responding. Mark Karpeles who is also a member of our foundation does not react .
Why do we need all this fund if it is silent in such difficult situations? Make clear, if they have any coins? Or hacked and they need to sue ? More than 40 000 coins is a very large sum for the system, you can undermine the credibility of Bitcoins his silence at such a time .
Sorry for my English.
--
WBR Amrenov Kanat

then lets find out which interests are served by them  :D......besides being suspended when found out to be a greedy asshole facing charges ;)

I have 19 BTC delayed from 30 January. Today I made more withdrawals - 13x0.5 BTC and one of 2 BTC. First 10x0.5 were broadcasted immediately but the others didn't appear at all. So, ATM I'm waiting 22.5 BTC...and I have more coins in Gox :-X

I got about 8 replies from the same guy today - basically saying nothing has changed, we're working on it, so don't worry.

Screw Gox! This is the seventh day I have waited.

Anyone intereted in following me on Twitter please do so and retweet a post or two (make sure @MagicalTux @BTCFoundation are in the first line).

https://twitter.com/Broken_Gox


http://brokengox.info/


I aim to piss them off if nothing else, and even embarrass them, so will keep it up for a couple of weeks.

I'm waiting since 28th of January for 1.4 BTC to appear in the blockchain. Wrote two support tickets, no response.
Also withdrawl of €1000 from 3rd of January... not in my bankaccount yet.

It's not a big amount compared to some of you, but it's quite a bit of money for me.  :o :(

Bitcoin Foundation's role is to lobby US congress to influence policy with the goal of minimizing regulations on bitcoin companies.  They aren't Mt. Gox tech support.  When it was forming you could buy your seat on the board with a big donation (like Mt. Gox) made.  These days they are well funded and I think we will see the removal of people that could reflect negatively on the foundation's mission (Shrem, Tux, etc).

Gox come back me my 100BTC. I will donative you 1 BTC
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9808/23942984.0/0_7a2b4_c90daff_XL.jpg

if its role is  to keep quiet instead of protecting the community of bitcoinholders and  sell out our interests ( which in this case is only not to be scammed by its own

members!!! )

to the highest bidder then of course its not amazing that the members end up one after the other behind iron bars...and deservedly so !!

lobbying in congress can not be performed by such individuals

if they are playing the deaf and dumbfounded everyone of em at the helm is a corrupted scumbag, it gets patently clear for what purpose they are set up --- as they are financed by all

those "poor, overregulated" Mt. Gox scams for whom they are complicitly lobbying ------ or better sweeping the "dust" under the rug ! 

Now 1931 stuck tx as I'm writing those lines, totalling more than 40000 BTC in outputs. Looks like more and more people smell the shit and try to get out, but without legal action, I fear it's already too late unfortunately.

add me to the list.

WTF?

don't know what to think, withdrew 2.01 btc yesterday and it still hasn't hit the blockchain, created ticket - no response.

tried another 1.8 btc this morning and it went through straight away.

they need to at least copy/paste a response to prevent everyone flooding out of gox.

Their end to withdrawals in USD (or other fiat) was my sign to leave MTGOX for good. It's been about 7 months since then and am very happy I did.

Good luck to you all who have funds there.

For what it's worth, I made 2 withdrawals (purposefully) of slightly over 1BTC each and one hit immediately (the 2nd tx), while the first has yet to arrive (I think I'm going on about 4 days now). So, there's something wrong that they're clearly addressing, I just don't see the rhyme or reason for why some transactions are sent immediately, and others aren't.

Guys, after only 2 attempts by Mt. Gox to send my failed "large" bitcoin withdrawal from over 10 days ago, I can see that this TX problem is simply not a "priority" for Mt. Gox. After all, we only represent a "small number of users" and while some people's smaller withdrawals seem to trickle through after 6 or 7 days, the rest of us are watching the list of failed Mt. Gox transactions exceed 1,550 ($33.3 million USD @ Bitstamp). This is $1 million USD more than just this morning, even though the value per coin has dropped!  :o

The writing is on the wall. We aren't getting our money. I've waited 10 days, and all I get from support is generic boiler-plate responses.

So, we NEED to get legal representation to seek resolution on our behalf before Mt. Gox goes completely insolvent and we lose everything. My life's savings is tied up in my "final" Mt. Gox withdrawal (I was pulling out all my money because I don't trust them anymore) and here we are... with no one to turn to.

If you have any knowledge of, experience with, or contacts who can recommend an attorney based in Japan who (1) speaks english, (2) works with financial fraud cases, and (3) who is willing to take on a Bitcoin-related case, please post this information here.

I, for one, am willing to contribute a portion of my recovery for the services of a good lawyer if they can recoup our hostage coins. I have already contact my personal attorney, and he'll be drafting a letter on my behalf, but he is not based in Tokyo. We need someone LOCAL to Mt. Gox who can take this to court if need be.

Please post anything you can about identifying a lawyer to represent our interests...

'Good' News, they ain't taking hostage our coins:

My >10 days old withdrawal request been automatically cancelled and returned to my account.

 2014/02/04 07:55:50   In      5.00000000 BTC   136.19304189 BTC
Cancelled transfer because of timeout: Bitcoin withdraw to ****
2014/02/04 07:53:36   In      9.00000000 BTC   131.19304189 BTC
Cancelled transfer because of timeout:

Anyone else getting back their btc?

nope yet.
It is really good news!

yep my coins are back on the account.
so what am i supposed to do now with goxcoins?

ok now i just did a withdrawal for 1.8 btc, this is my new fucking winning strategy, can't believe i am into it. I am waiting for the miracle

alternatively i have a japanese friend, can i get him verified and send coins to his account in mtgox? or it is also a dead end here?

I just tried another 6 btc withdrawal, guess what, its lost again..

Soooooooo after all the panic and whining, they are actually NOT stealing the coins, just being slow and incompetent?

How surprising ::)

Just reinitiated BTC withdrawal. Transfer again stuck in the blockchain.

how did you figure this out? they told you?

Nope, simply hundreds of peeps got their stuck coins back, if you would read any of the comments :)

hundreds ??? in the comments?
post me direct links, will you
I have several people on control, about 5% of txns go through, and they are small. looks like a filter is set on gox side

Not so fast, crediting back btc to accounts cost them NOTHING. They are just BUYING TIME. Try to withdraw any significant amount from it, and you will see failing again. I've tried several > 5 BTC withdrawals in a raw from the credited back balance, and they ALL FAILED.

It's not a good news at all, it's a another red flag, meaning they try to calm people down without improving the situation. We must act now by legal means.

We have formed a group, and we have around 1400 BTC at stake together. If you want to join us, please PM me.

Well I've been supporting billing systems in the telecoms sector for years, and every time something happened (erroneus bills produced because of a new system patch, or balances not getting topped up because of a bug which we were trying to fix), people would come and accuse the whole company: THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE EXTRA PROFIT! THIS IS HOW YOU STEAL FROM PEOPLE! THIS IS HOW YOU'RE EARNING YOUR SALARIES!

None of that was true of course. There was a glitch time to time, and we, the techies would spend days and nights for weeks, trying to fix it. And after it was fixed, everyone's accounts got sorted out. But in the meantime, we received exactly the same hysteria you're producing now. OMG THEY STEALIN OUR MONIEZ OMG LETS FORM A GROUP AND SUE THEM OMG!

Yeah, they clearly suck, and they're clearly not handling the situation too professinally. But I'm yet to see any actual proof where someone has been actually robbed.

We don't need to wait for a proof that we have been robbed to act. When we have the proof, it is already too late.

I would be happy to be proven wrong and abort any lawsuit I might have engaged against them, but I sincerely don't count on it.

I don't necessarily think they want to rob us intentionnaly, but I think they messed up in a way or another, and I don't want to suffer from their mistakes.
When you think about it, there is simply no other plausible explanation.

BTC can't be withdrawn + lack of communication + problems with bank since months + smoke and mirrors with their "tx rebroadcasting".
What else do you want? Do you need an official statement describing how we are all screwed?

You won't until its too late..

Gox recently added AstroPay and MoneyPolo as Deposit option , but pushed withdrawals for these payment systems for later on..
They had a chance to bypass the supposed 'limitation' their bank imposed by implementing new withdrawals option.
Ask yourself why only deposit options are added for a payment system, without withdrawals?

Blame it on the banks, blame it on US govt, blame it on bad documents, blame it on holidays, blame it on bugs etc, its all delaying tactics.

Same here. Five withdrawals which I initiated between 1/24/14 and 1/26/14 but never made it to the blockchain, all cancelled this morning due to timeout. All five cancellations occurred within 31 seconds of each other.

(I note that the 0.001 transaction fee for each transaction was not refunded ...)

how can they skin the 0.001 fee if the tx never made it to the blockchain ?....wasn´t it proposed for faster processing ??


there you got your  proven robbery of those fees for failed tx....and of course who believes that they usually give  all those fees to the the network ????

Got the timeout message, sent withdrawal request in.. NOTHING. I now have a alarm setup to alert me if btc trade price is crashing.  Mtgox should have been put down after the first 2 times they caused a massive selloff in BTC.  No matter how this ends up with so many exchanges having troubles, btc price is going no where fast so why even bother with it.  Alts day is here and I will be ready.

i managed to withdraw few btc in last few hours, i would say 30% of requested

Update - Statement Regarding BTC Withdrawal Delays

Maria Feb 04 • Announcements / Announcements

Dear MtGox Customers,

As noted recently, we are currently experiencing a problem where some bitcoin withdrawals are not being transferred correctly, affecting a limited number of users. Currently the problem is being fixed, but many previous transactions did not go through over the past days. Those transactions have now been returned to customer accounts in full, so any transactions that appeared to be "stuck" should now be refunded.

This problem applies primarily to larger transactions, so we appreciate your patience as we fix the issue. Smaller transactions should be fine in the meantime, and we will update you on the status as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience.

Best Regards,

MtGox Team

Transactions > 2 Hours = 2018   says the scanner

mine haven´t been credited back.....I made 4 new withdrawls of which just one of 1.6 came through...


they resort to outright lying to instill futher hope ?


its affecting all transactions and every costumer !!

I got my 10 BTC refunded, from a stuck transfer on 25th.

I just sent a 0.5 BTC (because I hear larger transaction mess up). Nope, it's stuck.

goodbye bitcoin, goodbye my USD,

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/32/In/SPAa3Hn/sad-bye-emoticon.gif

Have you sent out any replies? I sent you a PM a few days ago but didnt get a response.

So they send your BTC back to your account to do what? Trade more and pay more fees to them? Can't withdraw fiat in any meaningful manner.

Looks like they are trying to buy time.

I have also my BTC stucked in my wallet (2.47 coins exactly), but in my case I have it frozen because i made a deposit as unverified (i thought this rules is only applied for fiat currency deposits and withdrawals).

In my case i support is acting quite fast and my appliance was denied - it was my fault so i sent new documents today.

So, reasuming, first appliance denied, support answered - all happened in less than 20 hours - it's not bad response time.

I fall in this because i saw big hole between gox and others rates...

I think we should all calm down. Especially we, who have less than 10 coins in our wallets and wait for the things to sort out. When we panic the gox team have much more "current" work to do.

My example shows that not all gox users have their support tickets unanswered for days. Probably not all have withdrawal issues.

Facts are simple, MtGox is the oldest exchange which held a lot of really bad situations, and I'm almost sure it'll be good. I hope so, cause I left them all money i currently have "free".

I think, Withdrawals on Gox will be normalized, when the bitcoin price comes at 10 usd.

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/32/In/SPAa3Hn/sad-bye-emoticon.gif

Some of the TX are not on the skanner anymore.

I personally have several withdrawal transactions, which have just disappeared. So it seems MtGox has stopped acknowledging some of outstanding withdrawals. It's getting even worse...

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

They've change the structure of bitcoin_tx and remove some data for security purposes.. thereby hiding the stats..

 < BitCoroner> MagicalTux: why can't we see the raw transactions anymore on https://data.mtgox.com/api/0/bitcoin_tx.php ?
 <@MagicalTux> BitCoroner, because phantomcircuit found a security issue with showing this

So please update your experience, a lot of you guys probably still trying to withdraw some coins, anybody get it done?

So frustrating with these clowns .... they actually refunded my withdrawal.

So I try to send to another address, and .........

Yes, it's stuck again

Wait 8 days, get the magic beans, then the magic beans are swiped as soon as I try to take ownership of them

I believe Gox is in trouble and doesn't have the BTC or money to pay every person asking.

Please follow me and retweet - especially if you have friends in the media, and also to the bozos at the Bitcoin Foundation

https://twitter.com/Broken_Gox

http://brokengox.info/

Gox is finished, at least I think it is, but the longer people pay money into it the longer it will keep the scam up.

Hmm maybe. Are successful withdrawals coming only from new deposits now?

ditto @ rikkejohn

they refunded, tried to send again,  lo and behold stuck again

These guys are taking advantage of an unregulated market and the greed of those that have yet to come to harm.

They need exposing for the crook, halfwits or incompetents they really are. The Bitcoin Foundation is also just a pathetic puppet made for the benefit of the few.

Thomas Hobbes versus John Locke

Old Tommy had it right all along.

I really don´t get it.....who the fuck is still bidding 930 dollars for not existing, unwithdrawable, doublspend Mt. Vesuvius - fantasy bitcoins ??---thats an unbelievabe 130 dollars more than

for real ones which can be bought and withdrawn instantly at every other exchange -------------------the bitcoin world has become completly lunatic 8)

Why anyone stayed on Gox after the last few months is beyond me... 

Which is complete and utter nonsense.  Every raw tx ever made and which will ever be made is available in the blockchain.  There is absolutely no security issue by making the raw tx known.

Possibly there is. This is a guess, but by making the raw transaction known it could allow someone to alter the DER encoding of the signature scripts producing a clone of the transaction with different hash. If the modified transaction is then broadcast and confirms before the original Mt.gox may check the original transaction hash and see the outpoints have been double spent then resend the payment using new inputs resulting in the withdrawal been paid twice. It really depends on how Mt.gox detects a failed transaction.

piuk, so what is you general guess about the situation? should we be calling lawyers? or it is a glitch

In my experience when sending a lot of bitcoin payments it is quite easy to get out of sync with the blockchain and get into a mess which is difficult to untangle - so it is certainly possible that it is a glitch. But I don't really know enough about the situation so don't quote me on that!

Somewhat related, I have been waiting more than 105 days to transfer USD out of MtGox into my bank account.  Their stupid support system won't give me a valid reason why it is taking so long.  I am afraid to convert it back into Bitcoin to transfer that out because it sounds like even that won't work.  They are holding my money hostage and I will never be using them again after this.  What frustrates me is that I sold 1 bitcoin when it was close to 200 USD and I have been unable to get that back.  Of course they won't convert it back to the 1 bitcoin I originally had but I chose to sell with them because the price was right at the time.  Ugh!

I really want to believe that Mt Gox is not scamming me. So much of my future depends on getting those bitcoins out. Was even considering going back to college.

But it all could have been a pipe dream.

I stayed because they seemed to address their lag issues and figured they'd sort out their delayed fiat withdrawals eventually - most of all though I have more trust in Japanese hosted as compared with eastern European and didn't really want to send my ID to someone else, I didn't like doing it the first time.

The redaction of scriptSig could backfire them. If someone comes forward and proves that one output Gox claims to own actually belongs to him, then it's smoking gun they are lying and trying to hide something.

everyone wants to believe that.......and on this hope and inaction they are able to perpetrate the scam as long as they already do

Chiming in with my experience... I used the overblown fluctuations of Gox for day trading during the China run-up and never had issues moving BTC in/out. I had 12 coins still sitting there that I attempted to withdraw unsuccessfully on 1/28. I got a form letter reply from support 6 days later stating that everything would be fine, and the coins showed up back in my Gox account after 7 fearful days (note that the transaction fees do not get returned). Last night I tried again with breaking it down to smaller transactions of various sizes and got 5/12 to go through instantly. Differences in transaction sizes this small don't seem to matter (a test with 0.002BTC did not go through, and multiple withdrawals of the same size did not all go through). Now I guess I'll wait another week and repeat the lottery process until I manage to get everything out. Maybe next time I won't be too greedy to ignore months of red flags.

I was lucky to get 2/2 small (ca. 0.5 XBT each) withdrawals out last night.
I'll try my luck again later...

Ok, I tried to withdraw again today after my btc got stuck and were returned to my gox account. Now it's telling me "invalid bitcoin address". I tried a few different addresses including the one I used for the first withdrawal. Anyone else getting this message?

I am also getting that when trying to withdraw.

Iam too... what is going on!

same here

I didn't even get refund of my 93 btc. No bitcoin, no balance. Mark Karpeles, return me my money.

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mark-Karpeles-mod.jpg

When you copy/paste, it'll say that if there's a space at the end of the address. It's always what causes that message for me anyway.

Hmm, could be the cause. But I did not change the copy source since the first attempt to withdraw, which "worked" till the coins got stuck. I suspect they've got an empty hot wallet, as explained in some of the answers here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x3unb/new_trick_of_mtgox_pretending_that_the_withdrawal/.

Yes. It seems that having thousands of failing transactions is just too embarrassing, so better to artificially prevent btc withdrawals by creating yet another "glitch/customer issue"

I looked at a number of the failed transactions on skanner before the api facility was stopped and it seems a lot of withdrawal transactions had several inputs, but one of which had zero balance, an initial double-spend. For example. If customers A and B both try to withdraw BTC within a few seconds of each other their payments would share one input address in common with a balance to satisfy only one customer. Whichever gets propagated through the network first has a successful withdrawal, the other is silently ignored, languishing.

For my part, if btc withdrawl is really due to a technical glitch, then they should suspend btc withdrawls. They should have suspended them as soon as the glitch was first detected. Keeping broken half-functioning features alive scares the crap out of me personally as a customer.

Also, for what its worth, I now think that mt gox should have suspended trades and deposits (with the possible exception of Japanese yen trading)
a long time ago. Instead they should have said that they'd do their utmost to help customers get their fiat until
fiat withdrawls were fully online again and under the circumstances keeping trading operational was unprofessional.

"Sorry about the charts everyone, MtGox completely changed the data feed and this will need to be rewritten"
http://thegoxreport.com/

It seems that Mtgox is putting more effort into hiding their failed transactions from the public than actually fixing them.

Wow just wow. Let's make sure people don't have any meaningful data to base things on by changing the api format for the data feed.

 ::)

So they don't return your withdrawal fees? Ouch!

Bitcoin and MtGox the largest frauds in recent history.

MtGox has lost credibility, or at least exchange office does not follow the price at MtGox,
because in November and December of 2013 years, the price MtGox exchange office was allowed to rise without real money. (at push-button up) (great deception)
Now as we can see, MtGox is in big trouble about withdraw money, It is so logical and clear

I just received my first batch of stuck coins back into my account, and the fee has also been credited

If you are having any success at all with withdrawals why are you soliciting a class action type legal action in another thread.  If I received a 3rd of my coin missing at MtGox every couple weeks I would be annoyed but not ready to sue.

you think all this shit and deception by Gox is worth covering up, then?

How cowardly.

You guys are lucky.  I had 0 of 8 withdrawals go through.

seems people are selling their coins in Gox which brought down the divergence(against other exchange) quite a bit over the past 6 hours, why they are selling coins, do they have a better change to cash out via fiat withdrawal? I think fiat still a worst option to cash out for most people.

As far as publicity to this matter is concerned legal proceedings in japan surrounding an exchange that just a quick glance at the price there glaringly illustrates some serious matters not dealt with even after 3 months and certainly already mired down in criminal legal scrutiny from government's is as close to being a brave risk to the point of being disadvantaged.  A annoying delay for any of those funds was something anyone with $$$ at MtGox would have certainly already accepted.

Status update: My Bitcoins got refundet to my account aver 7 days waiting....feels so good to have them back :)

Great mine were as well,  what you going to try to get the cash this time?  Smaller amount of BTC or legal tender and burn that motherfucker down.

That would be better than the reality.  My stuck tx is a double spend, and the original was included in a block 10 days ago.

That is right MtGox tried to pay me with "coins" they already paid to a completely different customer over a week ago.

Also wonder on this, i.e. why price on Gox dropped?

Same pattern you often see with bitcoin trading. There was a large 3000 coin dump and then other people guess that that guy must know something and they just follow. Monkey see monkey do.

Indeed, what you are describing is worse and seems to rule out db race condition glitches. It is hard to believe that they are having a genuine software problem like this after functioning for nearly 4 years.

A quick search reveals they've had these problems since ever (both duplicate spends and ignoring coinbase maturity).

It's possible that more people are mining to their MtGox addresses now, triggering the coinbase maturity problem.

It's possible also that the two problems are related (failed transactions lead to more failed transactions), and that the problem is exacerbated now that it has caught the public eye and everyone (including me) has rushed to withdraw their BTC.

That still doesn't help us if they lack the technical competence to solve this. Their inability to effect a fix is astounding.

My stuck coins returned today and I broke them into three separate withdrawals, guessed what? None got through, stuck again, the dice rolling wining rate now is 0%! what a beauty

I did 22 withdrawals and 0 got through, not even the 0.001 one.

they totally broken down, looking at the piling tx and withdrawal requests

My god!what's wrong with gox?

Same problem!
Did 4 withdrawals and none got through.

Ah, this is part:

Following the arrest of BitInstant CEO, we believe it necessary to confirm and improve the information we hold on all customers using or having used BitInstant in the past. We understand that this request may create inconveniences but we believe that this is a necessary process to enforce MtGox policy not to tolerate any illegal usages of its platform.

please attach to this email the following documents in order to have your account unlocked

I tried to withdrawl 0.1BTC and it worked... :o :D

ok, of course, you paid 1% fee.

Cypress Hill ~ When The Ship Goes Down =)

I withdrew 0.7 BTC yesterday and the transaction has not gone through. (This was to a blockchain.info wallet)

I withdrew 1.1 BTC on Sunday and the transaction went through immediately. (This was to a local Bitcoin qt wallet)

Is anyone else using a blockchain.info wallet?

Your and anyone else trouble are not what wallet we are using. Its about tx spended output where mtgox need to double spend and broadcast tx again.

Tried 0.1 a couple of hours ago, and nothing coming

http://coinwatch.wordpress.com/

Good article, blames Karpeles for it:

"According to Bitcoin Developer Mike Hearn, Mt.Gox is running a customized version of the Bitcoin software which is maintained by Karpeles himself, and the ongoing problems are leading to the assumption that for some reason he is currently unable to fix it."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x4yqe/mtgox_btc_withdrawal_doublespending/

Great article!

Supposed by this guy who saw @magicalfux on IRC, Mark is busying himself by helping imbeciles figure out their scanning software or something:

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=451951.0


They might try looking to the resort community on the Western end of the island paradise of Cuba.  It's a popular location for those who are on the U.S. govt's shit-list and I've heard that the group water-sports to be found there are not to be missed.

Yesterday I managed to get out a few coins in a couple of transactions.
An hour ago I tried a small (less than 0.5 XBT) withdrawal and its still on on the blockchain...

Hi Alfabitcoin,

I was just wondering, does the sending completely random? or is there a time limit sugested to be kept between withdrawals for higher chance to go through?

or it is just a russian roulette with really low chances of winning?

cheers

Russian rulet have good chanche for win. 1:6  :D

haha, you are right. ;)
on an other thread someone mentioned 15% success rate (based on 73 withdrawals), russian roulette is 16.666%

Its random. I got two stuck withdraw and think i wont try again until it fixed. At least you can trade if needed and with btc in limbo just can not do anything. I chatted on irc and said it would be better to suspend btc withdraws and fix the bugs urgent. But they think better small chance then none. I think with failed tx they just make a things worst and dont acualy work on fixing the bugs.

hey whats up?..withdrawl are working flawlessly again ??? :D

i just did 7 withdrawals 1-2 btc, only 3 for 1 btc arrived

russian roulette is 83% chance of success actually. depends what you understand by success of course

It actually depends a bit how many rounds your piece can chamber.  My 357 only chambers 5 rounds.  And, of course, playing with an automatic changes the odds significantly as well.

I tried withdrawing ~5 btc from Mt.Gox yesterday. It stopped saying the address was invalid (it was giving me that error before when I tried) and took the money out / claimed to process the transaction. That said, over 24 hours later and nothing has shown up on the blockchain. I sent in a support ticket earlier today. I've had my share of problems with Mt.Gox before, so I don't think that my btc is gone for good. While I feel like they're quite incompetent, I don't think they're trying to outright take our money away from us. That said, once I get everything out of there, I'm done with them for the foreseeable future. I know people have been experiencing issues with Coinbase, but it's not nearly as many as with Gox. I've had some success using it so I'll use Coinbase for now.

use better paper wallets, how I wish I used my brains+cold storage

I took me money out in about 40 transactions. I was trying to find a pattern. The transactions that go though seem to show up right away. It could be a coincidence but some addresses seem to work better then others. Mostly when I had a transaction go though, I would then send a much larger transaction the next time. Mainly because I kept getting 2 good transactions in a row. I was able to get 75% of my funds out successfully. Could just be luck though.

First I apologize for repeating my own post from another thread. I did a quick analysis over the failed transaction data published at: https://data.mtgox.com/api/0/bitcoin_tx.php
It led me to believe perhaps there is a legitimate technical issue here at play. Those failed transactions seem to be "timing" related. Bad wallet/transaction timing issue could occur if they're experimenting with some kind of concurrent process for trading or withdrawals, or trying to cycle/reuse wallet addresses. I'm speculating that some withdrawals from certain addresses took place before those addresses are actually being properly credited (from other concurrent transaction processes, supposedly). If this is indeed what they're experiencing, it could explain why large amount BTC withdrawals are more susceptible to this problem (since those TXs more likely involve more addresses from other transactions). 
This may also explain why Gox has been relatively muted about it, given such issues are often difficult to explain to customers; plus they do have
a simple but inefficient solution/fix here, that is just keep trying the failed transactions, perhaps shuffling the order of the TXs a little bit before each try. Eventually the TX dependencies should workout on their own.

are you withdrawing like 1 or 2 btc per batch? 

I did .5 to 1btc each and 5btc if one went through.

Attention!

now bitcoin withdrawal is totally blocked, just received the following message when tried to withdraw, but i didn't see that fucking announcement:

"Bitcoin withdrawals are temporarily disabled until the issue is solved, please see announcement"

and i notice that the broker tx are dropping fast, seems they try to reset the whole backlog, hopefully we can get everything cleared.

Thanks god, they should have done this over a week ago when the problem started.

Statement Regarding BTC Withdrawal Delays

Tokyo - JAPAN - February 07, 2014

Dear MtGox Customers,

During our efforts to resolve the issue being encountered by some bitcoin withdrawals it was determined that the increase in withdrawal traffic is hindering our efforts on a technical level. As to get a better look at the process the system needs to be in a static state.

In order for our team to resolve the withdrawal issue it is necessary to temporarily pause all withdrawal traffic to obtain a clear technical view of the current processes.

We apologize for the extremely short notice, but as of now all bitcoin withdrawals will be paused, and withdrawals in the queue will returned to your MtGox wallet and can be re-intiated once the issue is resolved. Customers can still use the trading platform as usual.

Our team will be working hard through the weekend and will provide an update on Monday, February 10, 2014 (JST).

Again, we apologize for the inconvenience, and ask for your continued patience and support while we work to resolve this issue.

Best regards,

The MtGox Team

-----------------------------------------

hopefully this is indication that there is actually technical issue not a bank run, otherwise, they already abandoned the ship, why bother to clarify?  

So true :)

Well, even if there's a run, I tend to think that they'll have all of the BTC balances ready to give out. The gov't seized some of their dollars, but I haven't heard anything about anybody seizing or stealing their BTC. Only if MtGox has been speculating by either selling or loaning or otherwise "converting" their BTC deposits to other instruments (a huge no-no) would they be without the BTC to give out to fleeing customers.

What I find rather amusing is the fact that, in 24 hours, MtGox has gone from having abnormally high BTC prices (because dollars were tough to get out of MtGox, so they weren't worth as much as BTC, which you could get out quicker). Now that they've frozen all BTC withdrawals, everybody there wants dollars more than BTC because, even if it takes weeks/months to get your USD out, it's better than BTC which you can't at all.

As much as I despise MtGox, this is the one time when I wish I had some cash there, so I could buy BTC at a discount. Like I said, I'm more confident that they have the BTC to cover everybody's balances than USD.

You can buy GoxBTC at a discount.

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455243 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455243)

Countdown is begun,

Tokio/Japan GMT, 10 Feb 2014 1:00
Peking/China  GMT, 10 feb 2014 00:00

The BTC withdrawal mess at MtGox may take some time to sort out. Article at cryptocoinsnews:
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/08/mt-gox-transaction-woes/

Sounds like another excuse to delay BTC withdrawals to me. "Accounting nightmare"...lol

LOL, the price on BTC-e 102 usd 

Check,
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