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After careful research, when you see a good ICO, you would know and there will be no doubt about it.
I have noticed that good ICOs also dump after listing, competing with crap ones that have no definite direction, but to cart away funds.
There are ways in which they can be protected and prevent unreasonable dump in price. Some of which are:

1. They should be managed by credible and trusted managers, managers that already have good reputation on the forum, else the trust might not be there.

2. KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants in order to avoid multiple accounts. The kyc should be announced

3. Participants should be made to complete the remaining process of their registrations on the project's website, where IP can be detected. Multiple accounts can also be prevented this way.

4. Listing should be done on reliable and reputable exchange sites.

5. There should be regular and prompt communication with the community.

6. Projects should maintain and comply to their roadmaps and if there is amendment, the community should be made to know, with concrete reasons.

Additional suggestion:
7. An approach that will create the demand for tokens, which can as well prevent dump, is the lockup of certain percentage of the tokens.
Some percentage of the tokens belonging to; the team, advisors, investors, promoters and bounty participants.
The main tokens for the investors should be released, at least to compensate them for the money invested, but their bonuses should be locked for certain period of time. Which is followed by their gradual release.

These are just few among so many other solutions, but if this few are integrated into the system, i believe dump can be minimized if not totally eliminated.

Yes, it sometimes amazes  when I see some spreadsheets containing thousands or participants for content creation and social media bounty, where most of them are proxy accounts, copy and paste of contents of others. In this case there are some managers who care less and at end award those fake and plagiarised contents. I believe the  solutions you provided will work.
Sometimes, project promoters also cause a lot of dump. Take for instance what happened to projects like OMX, FTT and others.

We only have one problem. How does the ICO project show that it is authentic and reliable? I believe that ICO projects that can solve this problem can get the best attention and development.

These are good points you made there, but additionally i believe there is a striking point you left out- the community, most times the community pressures the project team to list even when there is no product they expect to get rich quick, which doesn't happen even in normal physical business....

On an ideal world some of these points would definitely be true, but let's see:
- most ICOs are scams or failures... the first hard step would be to determine which ICOs are trustworthy... and that is definitely not easy... some scams were managed by credible teams...
- with your proposal of kyc and ip detection, there would be an amazing amount of personal info collected, that would need to be safely stored... this would become more dangerous if you fail on identifying the "good ico"
- listing is another problem as the reputable exchange sites usually cost a lot of money....
well, I think the two major problems here refer to ICO scams and bounty hunter scams.... the ICO ecosystem will have to change in order to rule out both of these without hurting the others...
and ICO rating sites receive money from the projects in order to rate them... so that is not a good principle...

I personally have nothing against all items except KYC. it’s not because I don’t want to throw off the scammers, but because I don’t want to send my personal data. now very often this data is used for other purposes and can be sold

It is true and I agree with you. These are the most important steps to make from the team members to protect the project from the first listing dump. It would be a great idea to pay to the bounty hunters with stable coins or with more stable crypto currencies to avoid the price dump.

KYC for bounty and airdrop participants will not protect an ICOs against dump because in the current market, even well known altcoin that is part of the top 20 in coinmarketcap also experiencing a price dump. Even an altcoin that were newly listed from a well known exchange was being dump by their investors and bounty hunters. Why? Because every traders have the same rule, sell high and buy low.

2. KYC indeed reduces the cheating behaviors but it should be used when it's necessary. If KYC is mandatory, bounty hunters are possible to be stolen their information by scam ICOs. So, don't abuse KYC.

3. Changing IP is not a difficult matter. So, it will not work.

If they pay out marketing budget and bounties with fiat or eth instead of their tokens that can prevent dump mostly.

But they don't want to spend that so we ar seeing dumps all the time.

That will be the good thing and should be really peotected from dump , this to protect the value of the token from falling becuse of making it dump, let the new token of the new project will be able to pump up to the good price in the crypyocurrency market so that it will not become a shitcoin.

You can't simply mess with the open market.

Bancor created a system which would prevent dump but at the end it failed a lot.

All these won't prevent good ico from dumping in this bear market, the reason why project both good and bad project dump is due to bear market, demands are not huge and there are too many seller. The above conditions you mentioned didn't affect market when crypto space was witnessing a big boom.

ICO's are a scammy distribution model. There is no such thing as good ICO, unless regulated by Law and registered as Securities.

Even with this types of strategies they still fail.

I remember one ICO who listed in a reputable exchange (binance). They won thru voting and I think that is already a go signal for a lot of supporters and to rush investing with them.
Yet, they were still dumped by 100 percent now and adding more exchange made it worse.
No one can stop the playful traders.
They will do anything to create money only and nothing to care about what project it is.

Traders rule. You cannot be attached in a token or altcoin.

For me good icos does not neee protection from dump why ?

A good project should have the capability of creating and surging for a high demand which is enough to push up the prices of the token for a better and bigger good
Good icos should create a product that can survive great lengths

On expense Manager I agree with you. For example, when the company is managed by Amazix, the project gained trust. But to be honest any verification documents can be replaced with another person or go to the website and register with different IP, Only if someone accidentally gets caught by mistake.

Why though and how to do that? It's open market so the price will depend on the supply and demand of the project, if the project is really good then they will generate far more demand than their supply and the price will stay strong even after ico. Most of the dump happen because there's no more demand after the ico, that's why it is better to set the hardcap lower, because there will be people that can't participate in ico and buy from exchange after ico.

All suggestions make sense in general. But in real world it is hard even to find a good ICO :) and I'm not talking about the suggestions themselves.

Some ICO teams offer guaranteed buyback. But this is not always enough. Even if some projects offer guarantees, the market conditions do not allow this.

Since you can truly know a good ICO when you see one, then you shouldn't bother about the dumping by anyone. If one person foolishly dumps a good coin, definitely another person will wisely buy it cheap. People have also dumped BTC and ETH at cheap prices while others happily bought at the cheap rates.

The only way to prevent 'dump' is to take away the possibility of sale, don't list in any exchange or don't allow the tokens to move from the wallet.

Even if you sell 100% of tokens at $1 each some people will need the money and willing to sell at loss for less than $1.

Imagine when you airdrop a token, people having it for nothing sell it for whatever price.

I agree to all of your points except the KYC thing I am not a big fan of KYC and will not go to any KYC type of bounty unless it is highly reputable, and on your point number 6 there are no regulatory body for that, we are still in a mercy of developers, if they plan to go with their platform or not.

very agree. in this case the dump is indeed very influential on a good project. they first appeared to be helpful but ultimately damaged the project with the movement of the coin project in the market.

yes I think what you say is very true. if it can be integrated into the system, it will reduce the occurrence of dumps. A good ICO is to have a good system and good management in managing the project. I strongly agree with the solution you provide.

But most of these teams are changing it, there are some of them are creating buy back. Basically this is a good idea but that will make them all get less funds. Most of them are not interesting to waste their funds to protect the investors.

These points are valid and can help any reasonable ICO to grow organically.  Although, as regards the issue of kyc, so many people are trying to avoid it, because they are afraid of giving out  their personal details. As for me, I do not mind, inasmuch as the project is genuine.

even without bounty hunters the investors will dump their coins, it already happen there was a coin that gave their bounty reward after 1 month later after the investors got their coin and there is already an exchange, without the bounty hunters the price got dumped alot by the investors, so with or without bounty hunters, the price will result in a dump, might as well not give the coins to preserve the price.

yes, this is very difficult to avoid, even we know that investors and bounties have an important role in this matter. well, but a team that is professional enough will definitely try to think of a strategy where dumping is difficult to occur.

Excuse me, how can KYC help today? I think that today there are other ways to be able to really work with one real person. I think that today is a normal reaction in general. The main thing today to understand that KYC is not good.

In the crypto market every ICOs will go dump after the listing because now the market is going on bear market. As, know this asset class is very volatile so very quickly react to the market.

Even reputable bounty managers can be a victim of a scam team.

Most reliable and reputable exchanges have high listing fees so this is dependent to the amount of funds raised.

I suggest even the project team should submit KYC so we could know that they are real people and not just an imaginary CEO and Members.

I think big problem for ICO now is not bounty hunter. From what i see, bounty hunter can hold tokens/coins longer than investor. Because investor will take profit and then change to another project, that is why price not really up when in market.

I think the biggest solution for this dumping problem can be learnt from traditional stock exchanges where big companies set lower lock and large buy orders below specific levels to safegaurd their investors from massive crashes and dumps.

I agree with you on the above points and I myself has been part of an Ico( mandala) which was actually well protected during this bear market and it was not dumped as it was stopped from getting listed on exchanges like idex.

The fall in the price of tokens of projects after the end of ICOs may depend on many factors. For example, from the situation on the market, from the economic situation in general, on how the project complies with its roadmap and deadlines. The main problem is that almost all projects have no real use and do not generate profits. Cryptocurrency at this stage is an asset for speculation and for someone an additional means of payment.

If the project too much care about the dump then they should see this thread lol. We cannot prevent dump unless we gain control to the market.

I think that these criteria will not be able to save the coin from the price raid. If they want to lower the price, they will do it very easily. Even now, coins of good projects bargain below their market value

The dump in the price of good ICO is usually not premeditated,  the open market create opportunity for those who believe in a project to accumulate cheaply.  The project owners could as well prevent dumping by buying back their token,  Pundix did it!

I think all the options you give, They will not work effectively. There are already many projects implemented in your ways. The problem is that you only have bounty hunters dump.

Well, we cannot stop everyone even investors from selling their coins, because they have bought it and they can sell it anytime. Bounty hunters are not the only one responsible for dumping. In some bounties only 1-2% or maybe lesser are provided for bounties. It has only a little effect on the price.

The tokens allocated to airdrop and bounty should have some lock period and they should be unlocked in multiple batches to avoid dump of tokens.


Yes, this option is quite good. Some ICOs have already started giving out bounties partly in eth/btc and partly in their tokens.

Of all the items listed above, only item number 4 is responsible for protecting against the price dump. All others are more like preventive measures for legitimate projects and bounty hunters participating in them.

You are definitely a newbie on the ico market.
Yes, that what you described above is a good and must be implemented in a "perfect project", but hystory says that the main thing to prevent a dump after the first listing is a token metrics. The less tokens in the circulation means the less probability to be dumped. Also there must be unsatisfied demand created before listing, this is the main factor for token grows at the first times. And also there must be a smart market making pre-paid and ordered on that exchange if it is real and the exchange can offer this.
Also there is exist some other options that could prevent a token dump but this information is not for all.

Too many projects and too many of them just collect money on the ICOs, step by step it is more harder to find the good project, and even if you find some, it does not guarantee that it will be really successfull because not so many people are ready to invest nowadays because of the todays situation on the whole market.

it won't be possible, there will definitely be a dump when the coin is first listing on the market. it's useless to apply all regulations to prevent dumps. because the dump is caused by investor interest. and I think dumps occur not because of a bounty hunter, with only 2-5% of the total supply not going to make the price break if all investors agree not to sell their coins.

I see that the cause of the new coin in the dump is an investor who doesn't believe it, or a team of developers who dumped their tokens.

everything what you wrote it is true, but in situation when ETH was 1300$ and than falling to 100 dollars - no one protect from anything, all investors are shocked

how to protect it if a dump occurs because of investors and the development team. all the ways you think of are just to make it difficult for bounty participants and airdrops. I think it's strange if the bounty is to blame when a dump occurs. because before the bounty reward is shared, usually the price is destroyed.

the rules are made for those investors.

I agree with you on this. Any project that has the interest of its growth must put in place counter measures to ensure there is minimal crash in its price as a result of dumping. I understand that there is no absolute control over the market or control over how people dump their tokens but to a lesser extent, a project can initiate buy backs, holding rewards etc to ensure the value of their tokens are maintained. Price crashes and dumping can only lead to a loss in interest from potential investors.

This not right that good ico can't protect from dump market. By taking some step they can only stay position even when market dump

You sound very much knowledgeable and owing to the fact that you have been in the crypto space for quite some time, can you please, tell us what the other option is?

How I wish credible projects will be able to implement this and also be transparent to all stakeholders including bounty hunters by allowing them to know that they must do KYC before starting to promote the projects and work on their Roadmap in order for the price of the token to be stable.

Honestly, I doubt that project developers are not aware of the above items, which can minimize a significant reduction in the price of a project’s coin or the failure of an ICO. Nevertheless, in the given market conditions, even the fulfillment of all requirements does not guarantee further development of the project.

How could a.good ICO be protected from dumps, if this industry is decentralized. This would be very difficult to control the minds of dumpers, unless there will be a decent approach to prevent dumping.

This is absolutely making sense and I believe it was out from someone who is an intellectual. For the fact that there is no any measure controlling the dumping of ICO tokens is affecting the price of tokens after getting listed on exchanges. It would be a very great development if such measure could be take

The only thing to prevent the dump of the ICO price in the market is to get more demands from the people.
Make more announcement and development. also partnership is a great addition. listing in a great and top exchanges is one good reason to pump.

These are good thing or point you had mentioned but these aren't the thing that would able to protect those projects not to dump.
Investors would always be the main reason why it do dump after listing. Lets say its being listed on popular or top exchange but the price would still have the
same faith to go on.It will surely dump. Why? because of profit taking ofcourse.

Somehow, of course, this needs to be regulated as in this way start-ups simply cannot start to develop.

KYCing anything here is horseshit. Your data will be sold and stolen, period. It brings absolutely nothing positive to the space. Scammers and launderers will simply use the identities of others to get their "airdrops" and whatever. And the legitimate people KYCing will get bent over backwards and plowed from behind.

If you submit your data anywhere other than highly trusted exchanges, especially for the laughable pocket money that comes from airdrops and bounties, you're too naive to survive in this space.

P.S. If you want "dump protection" try buying some bank stocks.

Man, don't mix up ICO and bounty. It is not similar thing,you know.
You should learn about selection process as well, so you will choose better ICOs and avoid scam as a result of your activity

Good day. Private investors and pre-ico investors usually do the dumping. They get 50-100% bonus so its a win win situation for them once the coin enters exchange. Bounty hunters get their tokens 1-2 mons after ICO and only gets 1-2% of total sale so before they get their rewards, token value already went down 80%. Well there are also developers who sell their coins so they can have funds to pay for another exchange listing. There's lots of reasons for coin dumping.

Managers almost always sign under the project description - “I am only a manager, not a developer or a participant in a project”, thereby relieving myself of any responsibility.
Top manager is a good, but it is not at all ward off scam

If we are talking about the current situation it would be much more appropriate for the ICOs to be frozen and to continue when the price is recovered. Because in the present situation it is difficult to reach the soft cap and keep the price of the token after it is listed. And about bounty, developers are now trying to go against to bounty dump with late distribution but the price without bounty falls a lot.

You cannot stop people from dumping, each one of us has their own strategy and reasons why they dump their coins, it's normal for an investing industry, there are people who invest for short-term profit and some for short-term and some people who need to cash out for emergency purpose

I think that nothing can be done about it because people cannot be forbidden to dump their cryptocurrency which they honestly earned

It's best to let the market decide what happens to a token or coin that gets listed on an exchange. In recent times though, really good ICOs don't need a strategy to avoid being dumped. Because the tokens are in high demand and there are more buyers that sellers waiting for it to hit exchanges. I can't say the same for average - low interest ICOs.

These are just wonderful tips. It would have been good if those ICOs can go with this suggestions, coupled with other suggestions they feel might also prevent dump in price. It is high time we started taking the right approach for the system to be trusted.

Every developer must be confused about this, a strategy to prevent a dump. They will definitely try various ways, but market acceptance is everything. Op is true if a trust has been formed, then price movements in the positive direction will be achieved. Good communication is everything. Don't just push promises.

The points are valid and i reckon with them. Whoever is enthusiastic about crypto and does not want the project he is passionate about to dump, he will support the suggestions. Well, sometimes, the team might not have the knowledge of crypto and therefore not able to protect the project from dump. So those who invested into it , might not be happy with it.

Supposedly it should but since crypto is design as a decentralized market, still subject for abrupt changes anytime. If that ICO have a high potential and have an existing project, then it surely bounce back from the dump but if not, it totally sleep forever. Many ICO were getting failed just because investors never see its future.

Good ICOs will not be dumped, believe me. The main point is that you participate in shit tokensales with weak token economy. To my mind it is something that people don't take into account and token falls below ICO price

I think. when the conditions are bearish. A good ICO can't protect it from a dump. some ICOs even choose to pause distribution for temporary. the main reason is that the ICO team understands that bearish will make the coins they has created fall drastically.

The important thing there is the declaration that KYC is required for the bounty right at the beginning. Sometimes they tell you part of the way through which is really unfair, not all bounty hunters will be informed when they do it

The fact is that you can not tell investors what and what not to do with there coin,it is their right to sell or not to sell their coin but than all depend on the credibility of the project,if the project have a good working product, investors find it very hard to dump.

i will suggest that all good icos present themselves with traders that will be on ground to oversee the trading operations of their tokens and also ensure the stability of the price. most exchangers can also help by setting their decimals to the price ranges permitted.

it is very hard when the ICO will be listing at the first time to get moon or pump, it depends on the exchange.
did you thinking the people buy the token at the private sale? the price is very cheap for example, PlayGame token, it is a good PROJECT! and good at product + team, but the price currently is under ICO, Price of a private sale is 1 ETH = 30000 PXG, the price of token sale is 1 ETH = 15000 PXG

as you can see who bought PXG in the private sale will get 1005 profit ;) so this is easier to dump

The ideas you give are good for investors, but for the project team I don't think many ICO can do that. Tailoring to your wishes will cost them more money for technology, managers, and exchange

I would add some advice here too.

1) No bounty programs at all. No airdrops as well.

2) Advisors get money in fiat or some strong crypto like bitcoin or ethereum. Not this project tokens.

3) No presales, private sales, decreasing discounts etc. Just one fixed token price for everyone.

4) Team tokens are frozen for a year or two better.

This measures will prevent token price from dumping. There will be no point in selling this token for a price lower than the one that was during the ICO.
This will make investors protected, I am not talking about other effects, good or bad.

If you want to avoid your tokens being dumped when it lists then stop offering big discounts in the Private Sale and Pre Sale without a mandatory hold period. It is fine to offer discounts to attract the big money investors but if you are giving anything more than a 10% discount over your ICO price you need to place a trading restriction to make sure these people are long term investors and not Discount Dumpers.

You spelled it right. If all projects followed these rules, we would have a lot of successful projects. But these rules must be followed together to maximize efficiency.

You are proposing too many regulations to avoid dump. The main reason for dump is the market situation.
I am an investor in several projects ( good ones ) where the bounty hunters still has not got their rewards only the
investors. And the investors dumped it much under ICO price. So, I think that the market always decides and
there is no need to over regulate things. Your proposals are good to prevent double accounts but will not save
the project from dumping their tokens.

Yes mate, you have made good points, most especially point no. 7. I came across an ICO that used that strategy and I believe ut will work well for it. Although, the supply is high and with such, that is what will help and prevent it from dumping. When the team of a project understand the market and know the approach useful to prevent unnecessary backdrop of the project, then the better.

I agree, but such ICO should be protected from both bounty hunters and investors, because very often investors drain the tokens first.

Most points I can agree, it will help to reduce big dumps, but I have to disagree completely here:

I don't know why so many times KYC is wanted if it comes to call out measures to prevent something. It's a big misunderstanding. A KYC should never be required for a bounty, because it will help all scammers which are purchasing stolen KYC documents illegally.
And if the scammers don't want to buy stolen documents, they set up a fake ICO with KYC and collect KYC from others.

KYC is no solution to prevent scammers from joining. A good bounty manager is required who does his research and kicks out cheaters immediately.

is it not only bounty hunters that sell their coins investors too. they have big bonus for purchasing early and they sell it when coin list exchange and they can have profit. good projects will recover if it is really have potential but it won't recover overnight.

Actually the dump happened because it did not occur because of bounty hunters. but the real investor is making a dump. Because they have nothing to lose if they sell coins. As you said, they (investors) have a big bonus. If the bounty participant who causes a dump, I don't think it is right, because the bounty participants have a large allocation of maybe 2%. With that there is no possibility of a dump.

If you check all good ICO's all of them are have KYC even in their bounty program. One of the way to avoid the token to dump is they lock the token for bounty program because some bounty hunters dump always the price and sometime they distribute it little by little.

It is very hard to determine which one is the good ICO because the ICO coin only can be used in trading, there are only small percentage that being used in real life, and I disagree with the kyc, crypto should stay anonymous and its dangerous to give your identity to unknown people

Dumping has been a major problem in ICO, people nowadays don't care about the project anymore, they only want to make profit as soon as possible, so when it hit the exchanges they will sell it immediately, I think limiting the daily distribution could at least make the dumping effect not to severe

All your points are good but not the number 2 where KYC is mandatory, it is ok for investors but not for bounty hunters we have seen so many ICO come and go just like that if you participated on those ICO you now have to wonder what happens to your confidential details, that's putting your life to risk.

of all this can hardly be done by the project owner, and indeed the market is no longer good, not because of the ICO.

That is what we have to do, protecting any good project is really good for the future of cryptocurrency, but with the part of KYC should also be applied to the bounty participant, i think that is really un-necessary, after all the work that had been done by the bounty participant, and their patient to follow the project until it reach success on the selling, and they should done a KYC, making them harder to get what they deserve. For that part i disagree.

There is even a project that's been determined by things like this but the result remains the same. ICO is nice even experienced a price drop not because they don't deserve it but because of other factors such as a fall or their platform at the moment is the falling price of crypto so as to make the lower price or the wasted time of entry in the market.

Yes, you are right. Investors and bounty hunters will definitely want the best price from what they have. If the marketing and sales strategy is right, plus good market acceptance, the price of the token or coin will surely develop in a positive direction.

I like the idea in protecting a good ICO, but even after thorough research on those ICO, we can't really sure if the project will be success after the ICO ended, and if the KYC being made mandatory for that, i believe it could endanger everyone, many people's personal data could get snatch away if the ICO is a scam.

The points you mentioned are indeed true but sometimes many investors make a mistake by pressing the ICO team and developers to quickly listing tokens in the market after the sale is completed. They consider all easy whereas all projects require a long process. As investors we must also have thoughts that invest in ICO is not forever we'll be in profit. So all the bad possibilities should also think from the beginning.

Kyc just to minimize the scammers. Sometimes the rules is quite helpful but also quite troublesome because in approve also takes time. I personally also confused how to respond to this, it is necessary but it also troublesome.

I'm experiencing what you're talking about. Some of the bounty that I follow requires kyc and tokens are not distributed overall but gradual. The bad side is a lot of bounty hunter which considers the project as a scam because team stopped of the distribution but on the positive side they're trying to control price but the actual allocation of bounty is not too much so there is no thing to much worried.

What you propose in my opinion is very good. But if all that is done, but the price of ICO coins is still down, of course, this is the worst thing. I think we should see investors holding the biggest coins. And the crypto-coin market conditions such as Bitcoin and Ethereum also affect ICO coin prices.

I strongly oppose KYC for airdrop and or bounty participants. Because the dumping prices are not only by the airdrop/bounty participants, but short-terms investor also play a role in dumping the price in the market.
So, no matter how good and strong the project is, the team will have difficulty to protect the dumping price of their coin.

The proposed measures, I think, are partially unreal, and in another part they will not give the expected effect. What is the use of freezing tokens received by investors? As soon as they are unfrozen, the token will immediately fall in price. On one ICO, I saw a good option in this regard: they indicate in advance that the tokens for investors will be frozen for three, six and nine months depending on the percentage of the bonus received. The higher the discount percentage, the longer the freezing period of the token. This option of freezing is likely to bring some results.
With respect to bounty hunters, there should be no KYC checks. This is illegal and has no effect. At the same time, it is a good tool for ICO teams, so that a significant proportion of bounty hunters do not pay out the tokens they have earned.

Freezing of tokens does work. When tokens are locked and released gradually, it makes it better. It is not as if tokens will not or do not dump, but one of the strategies to prevent serious dump, is the gradually release of bonus. Over time, i have noticed that the bonuses given out during investment, sometimes gives investors more reasons to sell below ICO price, because they have something to fall back on.

Good idea and suggestions. One of the acts that bring about mistrust in a project and which can also drive down the price is not following or working with the milestone of the project. If the team of a project is nit sincere enough, instead of being opened to inform the community the challenges they are facing, they will then begin tyo ignore questions asked by the community members.

Your points are all too good to be true we are lucky if all your points are being taken up by these ICO some of them failed to communicate or took a lot of time to update their investors after the ICO, the update is very frequent when they are looking for investors, but stop after they generate the funds.

ICO might be good in term of proposal but they might not get actual amount needed to further the project and ones such ICO give huge discount for investors and also allocate huge amount of token for bounty, Such ICO can get dump when listed. The moral of the study is to keep your mouth where it is safe. many project allocated huge bonuses and discount for token and ones they realize they will not be able to comply with this. they will start having problem with hunters and investors.

I agree with the points you have given, indeed we must choose and study the ICO Project carefully so that we can benefit from the ICO project.

Admitted or not every ICO's will never avoid to being dumped because after listed to an exchange we cannot force people to hold their tokens especially if the price good to be considered i think most of investors too will sell their tokens but the problem is whether those ICO's can able to recover the price or not and if the tokens can through it and can recover the price after dumped then i'm pretty sure it can be called as good ICO's

In the reality you can't do that easily, whenever the ecosystem is in bear market then you cannot do anything unless you will buy more with same price (if you treated your money like a piece of paper).
for point 4, do you know how much fees to get in to reliable and reputable sites? if they only reach the softcap I think it's hard to get a exchange like that, for me development is more important than exchange, and development done you the marketing plan will do the job and after that they will get good exchange for sure

for point 6 I think most of project do that, but the community keep asking the same question that make the dev is tired too to reply it, and actually roadmap is only estimates especially if the project do licensing for the product, they cannot be predict to exact date.

For point 7 if the project do that, they should announce earlier to their rules, but remember if you do that thing the project will not attract lot investor because why the hell we paid and they lock our money, you can do that for bounty participant but remember only few of them will not join in because they want fast money in other words you will lost lot of advertiser for that thing. For team and advisor I think they have term for holding the token, like it must be locked for period of time and after that they can sell it.

In most projects, this is true; indeed, most projects today are really losing the value of their assets when they enter the stock exchange, so I think that it would be best to deal with buying these assets.

I am supporter of this idea. I think that the teams that take their project seriosly should do buybacks to guarantee a certain price floor. But in terms of BTC price.
USD price can't be sustained in cases of severe bear markets, like the current one.

As far as I remember, this was generally possible, because earlier in the conditions of investing in projects such opportunities were prescribed and it was generally a normal situation. Let's see what will happen next with the market.

good idea, there are lots of good ICO in the market that has been ended up on having a bad price because of dumping due to lack of protection, therefore many investors dont want to invest anymore because they might know that their money would be ended to loss of value and by the statement above it can be resolve.

therefore many ICO projects have a good future, delaying listings on exchangers, maybe this is one of their strategies in preventing dumps.

I agree with our point of view, these factors are really important to make a successful ICO, but there are some top projects which followed all the rules and their token price was still dumped due to the market conditions.

To protect the project from dump, first of all, you need to sell coins only to professional large investors, or educated small ones, otherwise investors will always dump the price.

You want to regulate and control the crypto market? And where is the decentralization what everyone wants?
Soon or later your strategy will be broken because you can´t support the price forever.

I think that there is already a solution today, today the market already offers a normal number of projects that can solve problems with ICO, but as you see today the market has fallen and as far as I understand, it simply does not make sense for them to withdraw funds for development.

This is a useful comprehensive list. How i wished that the respective stakeholders,  who have one thing or the other to do with projects in the crypto space, would see this.
There is need to endure that modalities are put in place, to ensure that the value of coins are maintained. That is for coins that truly have value.

there are many dumper that dump some token for their advantages. actually, its better if you place order little higher than the last of token sold. its like pump little by little, and do for every coin.
when in sell my own, i try to place it higher, take a long time but its work, you can punch that price slowly.
price can be broke because people sell their coin after receive it. its not good for investor, sometimes they got loss

You have point but what you are aiming is somewhat impossible. Here are few reasons why I said that it is impossible.

- Most of ICO's will put atleast 2-3 percent of their total supply to allocate for bounty participants. In this scenario controlling the bounty hunters not to dump their tokens is very impossible. They have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their tokens.
- Once the token will reach to any exchange whether it is a better exchange or not. The volume is still important, buy section should be higher than sell section to avoid too much dump of tokens.
- Even if all what you have mentioned will be executed correctly without any issues. You cannot still stop the investors to hold their token as their are investors that put a target value when to sell their tokens as long as they are already earning a good profit.

That is truly good that some good ICO will be protected from sudden dump ,so that the new token could properly be promoted and can get  at least the highest value of tokens in the coin market cap ,because the dumping of tokens in the market cause a falldown of price value of that certain token.

I am thinking how will an ICO be protected with dumps. When a coin got distributed, the coin holder has every right to sell the coin. I think we should just accept how the market goes. The only way we can help is to keep holding and stop selling at the low price, that will be enough and we should accept what the market has to offer.

He just said something on how to protect good ico from dump. But it is another topic if we will going to consider how reliable an ICO is. What we need to do is to also research about it and try to figure out accusation if there is.

You have brilliant step but I'm afraid market has their own answer. We all know market is the main part, we can see which one will survive and I believe we need pump not dump. Like or not dump can create demand to buy strong or recovery asset but if running in long term period the story will be different. Developer, investor and bounty hunter only can follow the trend not create trend.

I agree with your all points and also there should be limit for number of participants in the bounty campaign & the hunters should also be rewarded at the same time when investors get tokens. In the past generally communities used to deceived by ICOs to blame bounty hunters for the non performance of the token on exchange but things are changing bounty hunters are getting late token as their rewards still price of token is dumping around 70% to 95%. Check recent good & hyped ICOs whose price dropped drastically Dxchain, Tolar, Hyperquant etc & the tokens were dumped by the investors only.

Just let you know OP, the most and biggest reason why a token got dumped (mostly after it listed on exchange) it's because DEV's fault. They didn't give any update about their project with investor's money. After that, people will lose their faith about that project and they decided to sell all of their token to prevent bigger loss if that really happened

Some investors are afraid to hold, because they do not know what will happen next, which is more reason some of them dump all that they have without a second thought. I feel if investors can be reassured that there won't be much or any loss, they they might hodl, but the reassurance must be backed up with evidences and proofs on how it will be done.

A good ICO will not be able to protect itself from falling prices in the general fall of the crypto market. How can ICO protect itself from falling? Definitely need to reserve funds to support your token. To resort to active manipulations on the crypto exchanges is what will stop the new tokens from ICO from falling prices. And even to the growth of prices and increased investor interest.

All of your tips and advise was really quite and good Pal. But even the ico project token will be list into a reputable exchange, we cannot say that it can't dump anymore. Due to once the token has been list into an exchange platform, we cannot stop the decision of the traders who wants to sell their coins holding.

This is more focused on bounty and its influence on a dump. token lockups also work well in keeping the price a stable. The true is investors dump due to the bonuses they receive during pre-sale.

The fall of tokens after integration on the stock exchange really causes a recession to this project. In any case, today it is best to understand that this is a standard situation, because a very large number of people sell tokens and coins.

Those are ban aid solutions above not even eth and bitcoin are spared when we talked about dumping coins or tokens. And no projects will be exempted, when a token or alt coins is listed in exchanges the price will be out of control by the developers. As the market will decided the price of the tokens or coin. Only when the project starts to deliver the roadmap and having an actual use case of the tokens or products. It's when the demand and the price will increase.

To me the principal aspect to invest in an ICO is if there is a real company behind it. This will no guarante anything but is a must

I am kind in the same position  but I still believe that there are some really good ICOS like w12, MPCX, TAPCoin and I guess many more which we do not know.

Attime I laugh when I see some post on this forum, there is little developers and managers can do, even government was unable to stop crime, with all the power at their disposal, the IP block can easily be circumvent by VPN. For me there is nothing developers can dow hen someone decided to sell a token they bought at $1 for $0.001. The only issue I have with ICO developers is over valuation of their projects

I disagree. That sounds terrible! Why accept their fate and not act!? Good ICOs control the dumpening by taking matters into their own hands and not allowing the release of the free bounty tokens just when the ico ends. There is not even value other than some lines of code at that point. Good ICOs work hard to create value for their token and great ICOs have an already working business model and just move to the blockchain space to improve their services like TapNetwork did.

These opinions can't solve the problems faced by ICO. It is meaningless to know your customers. ICO can only survive if it is supervised. Otherwise, there will be no investor investor ICO projects in the future.

I support you, today investing in projects is a responsible procedure, because at any moment you may simply be deceived. Therefore, try today to test and analyze projects before investing and get ready to be deceived.

There will be always dumpers, you cannot protect them from them.
In many cases investors dump their coins if they are in panic of the market situation.
Some people invest more than that they can afford to lose and we are facing difficult times on the market.

Hard times are just beginning. Look at how the stock market works today. I think it's best to try to continue to work with stock markets. Today, in general, it is considered normal if your deposit falls.

 1. KYC - This procedure does not protect investors or non-hunters. First a young man what year do you live in? 2019 almost. Personal data sale occurs every day. And falling on it, you also send your data to the world network. Imagine 500 hunters. Who have undergone the procedure. Their data are then simply sold. As well as investor data. Only on this already fraudsters can secure a stable income.

2.  In the age of the Internet and hackers. Do you want us to pass ip address verification? I think you are crazy. As we all know, each of the participants in this forum can be in love with being attacked by a hacker. And may lose their money. Let's simplify their tasks.

Only a narrow-minded person could provide such data to us.

The ISO problem is not hunters. And in people who are trying to steal investors' money. Create projects without a product. Create projects without ideas and demand investments.

it is a great way to make a lot of accounts and the problem of dumper coin prices can be solved, it will make the gift program and its participants have better quality as well as projects and coins, if all the requirements are fulfilled it will be very profitable even for participants bounty because bounty hunters will receive tokens from good projects that will continue to grow which of course the price of the tokens will certainly be good

I am sure that the participants of the Bounty company do not sell their tokens immediately after distribution if it is a really promising project. The team itself should work on promoting its project, and not think only about the money earned from investments.

dumps occur due to many factors, one of which is that fundamentals are still very weak, only token holders are able to control it, and they must have a pretty good volume

Its not easy to find the good ICO or bad ICO. Thats the big issue at this moment. There should be some way to keep the scammers out of this ICO area. Then it will become interesting.

Dumping can be done by any individual or group who invested or received rewards as a promoter or advisor if there's no lockup period and anyone who bought a large allocation at a sizable discount is going to have a big impact on the price if they liquidate as soon as a secondary market opens in order to make profits

the best Manager and also the KYC may not guarantee certainty. many new managers currently have sprung up, in fact, it delivers a pretty good job. In contrast to manager can be said already experienced even started a lot of stopping even entered in the scam. regarding KYC may look good, but when this was applied in the bounty then quite a lot of unbelievers and even consider this as identity theft.

I agree with this line of thought. I believe if the team behind a good ICO see their project as good, they must make adequate plan for price dump protection. There are many ways by which this could ve accomplished, for example; they could by back their token, or lock large percentage of token to create demand!

You can't just protect an ICO from the dumping folks.

Why is it that when there are dumps, the one that gets blamed are the bounty hunters? how big usually is the allocation that they get from the total circulating supply of that token? it is around 1%-10%. You should question the devs but you can't figure it out unless you follow their balance addresses.

I do not agree with you that it is impossible to know if the ICO project is good or bad, it is important that you try to know. Only when you want to know and investigate it will you know if it is good or bad. And the interesting thing is always the good ICO, the real project  ;D

I agree with all these ideas in theory, but some other factors come into play. I have worked in an successful ICO that is listed on CoinMarketCap and has a fully working platform with over 30k signups and growing daily.

- Getting onto reputable exchanges is very tough. They usually command a very large amount of your token supply + a quite large one off payment. Although this is the key, some ICOs that have not raised astronomical amounts still struggle to meet that price / tokens. Also it means that the company loses a lot of its control as a large exchange can control their token.

All the others I agree with especially the communication part, transparency is key when explaining any issues, updates or changes in the roadmap due to unforeseen circumstances.

I think what you state is correct, but also you have to remember that ICO projects (most of them) want as much exposure as possible to reach their hard caps and sometimes creating KYCs when not needed can hinder their ability to reach their mass audience.

I think the main issues are:-

- Planning - I have worked with a few ICOs and things are not planned out, they jump into things and then work it out. That can be interesting and mostly because the market is always changing, but means that some things do get missed.

- The market itself. All it takes is for a company to get hit by a bear market and they are in serious danger of not raising their capital, which means their idea / startup does go under potentially. Again this is connected with planning, as if they thought ahead they could prepare for all situations.

The most important thing you can do to protect yourself from this is, of course, protecting your project by attracting interest only through economic impacts and incentives. The conclusion of partnership agreements.

I thought that even for very good ICO it would be very difficult to avoid a dump. we never know, investors, or bounty hunters who sell their assets in a short time, and of course that will make a real effect on the price.

no wonder there were some ICOs even though the koi had entered the market, they held the koi for campaign participants with distributed prizes for fear of being dumped, I waited 12 months for distribution

et's look at the truth. Who destroys this market. Investors or Hunters?

How many hunters we get 1.000.000 tokens for 300-500 people. And investors? If the project is large. They bring to the stock exchange 500 000 tokens at the lowest price. What destroys the token at the start of trading on the exchange.

If the devs is really serious about his project, it won't be a problem for them to accomodate some coins owned by bounty hunters. I think 1% -5% of the total supply is not too much. It would be great if there was a project like that, like previously Populous Platform project that their tokens rising 10x from ICO price shortly after the ICO ends, who easily accommodates all the bounty tokens owned by hunter bounties.

WHen people think ICO as an short term investor then how caan we stop them from selling their coins and tokens when it listed on exchanges,if someone hold too long they are taking huge risk because once the price dumped means they may not recover forever so making the profits at the right time is indeed.

I don't think it will be possible, as the dump is made not only by bounty hunters, but also by investors. Everyone wants to make a profit and drain quickly, because of this and the problem.

Firstly, there's no way a good ICOs can be protected from the current dump in the crypto market because all the coins and tokens were all affected. However, I dont see any reason why project investors will be among those that dump the price of the project they invested because investment in crypto currency means trusting/believing in the future promising of the project. But, the early miners of the new project are the one to be held responsible for the dump in price of the project and we have read about the man(early BTC miner) that bought a big pizza with huge amount of BTC then so same thing still happen with new project either.

How good an ICOs project is doesn't justify it been protected from dump because it the move and strategy planned/applied by the strategy team of the project will determine if the project will be protected from the current dump in price which the crypto sphere encountered. However, most ICOs owner used the buyback and hold to make more profit strategy.

I agree with your idea on protecting any good project, it will be able to makes the crypto market better. but what hard would be the people, we can't really control them, cause usually who makes the market drop is because some people dropping the price of the coins because the sell them out of panic or just try to sell them ASAP without thinking about profit or anything.

There's no reason why crypto coins gonna dumo if bitcoin will gonna dump. For sure they following bitcoin if the price gonna pump or dump.

This is a good idea, but no one can stop the issuance of ICO projects. ICO's issuance and investment are free. In the future, ICO will only be able to restore the price of Ethereum if it is regulated. Too many ICO projects are now fraudulent.

It is extremely difficult to protect the IC from dump. After all, people sell coins for a reason, because in the current market there are no other options. If now there was a period of growth, then most of the investors would have been waiting for the price to rise and not collapse it.

Investors like us are losing, as ICOs today call almost exclusively from organizations. Small investors are no longer in the majority because they have left the market they think is dead

I am very willing to protect and participate in a good ICO, but I can't even judge the 100% authenticity of the ICO project now, which makes me confused because it makes me unable to fully trust ICO.

I think we can't control the ICOS from the dump because when the icos hit the first market this is out of our control because it's depend for demand and supply.. If it just a bad icos with useless product, the project will dead less than 1 year.

I have seen many investors give up their investment in real projects because of concerns about ICO market fraud, which has led to the failure of a large number of real ICO projects.

Still, those projects that had such a long distribution today are falling in price as well as others. This will not save the situation, because everything depends only on the fact that people stop believing in cryptocurrency.

The above information is useful for ICO projects  but I think that still does not prevent dump! dump seems to be part of the market, it depends on those investors who own token  but no one can manage their tokens by themselves, it's like whale manipulation  so you can't stop it! 

Those developers are so stupid and why? even they delay the distribution and that will not protect their token being dumped. As far as I know about when you are seeing the market gets bearish trend and the majority of people will try to follow it. The only possible thing to create a buy back.

If you have a good ability to review ico and rate it as good ico, I am sure many people will rate it good too. If you sure specific ico so good, you should love when the dump happen, you can buy it as much as you want. Good project will bounce back, it's just about time.

No need to introduce any additional benefits for individual ICOs. Who will determine which of the ICO projects are promising and which are not? In any case, this will create arbitrariness and corruption. We have already passed this more than once. Only the market, the demand for cryptocurrency can determine which types of cryptocurrency exist and which do not exist.
As for the KYC verification for bounty hunters, it is better to immediately advertise that you are putting confidential data into the hands of fraudsters and all kinds of criminals for use. The KYC check on bounty hunters is generally illegal because we are not investors. Its use for other purposes is illegal.

This informatiom is really helpful to pumping again the market.  Because ICO's are scam did not helpful to pump the value of the coins and it can cause dumping the value because the funds or the coins that it collected they sell them or convert it to real cash.

I think its hard to protect price keep stable because when landed in market, its depend on supply and demand. I think we can not ask people to not sell their token because its their right. But if the project having a good project and working product, we should not worry when people dump their token

ya, we can't stop the dump, sometimes I think ICO project tokens dump is cause by project owner, even they successful raised funds from ICO, they don't care their token price at the moment, don't have any action to prevent price dump, just focus on project development and don't have any good news come out, maybe the reason of price dump is project owner dump their token. But I don't care too much because I don't think the price will dump forever.

Your second point is in a mess already ,even KYC is in scammers game now ,some ICOs compulsory kyc and in the end its a scam ,I think its still not safe to share Identity with any projects ,instead of sharing I.d why not just videos verification? That would do

In my opinion, it all depends on the background of the project. Not all projects do not care about prices. There are also projects that work for development and those who think about the price of the project. For the dump problem it seems like it can't be avoided. Because the owner of the token is very much. Certainly it cannot be controlled by one person.

In 2018, there are many ICO project token prices are falling. If the project can do the above, then it should be able to control the stability of the price, but no one can do it.

Your every point are right mate, I think you have a good experience about crypto! By following these steps a project owner can reduce the dumping of coins! But every time strategies don't work well. I have been following the bitdepositary project, and they took maximum steps from here. But their BDT coin dumped highly! Now they go through to change the platform from Ethereum to their own blockchain! But still, these steps really can help for the maximum time!

These are really good insights on how we can protect one good project. Well, I think most of the problems that an ICO will be solved by this. For me, if we will unite and do this and all good projects do this to be able to protect the project, I think more investors will be attracted. But we should have an extra effort on how we can identify good and legit projects so our efforts and restrictions will not put in vain.

Man, how are you going to protect ICO from dump? To my mind it is quite impossible. It seems to me that you've got to analyze it and your analysis is kind of protection. It is your choice and you are responsible for doing that. Next level of protections is government regulation

Good Ico do that. KYC is one of the solution for the dump because mostly the bounty hunters have multiple accoumt once they are join to bounty campaigns once the token list to market they have a lot of token that cause dumping value of tokens and convert it to bitcoins and sell their bitcoins to cash so that is why the market are really affected because of this but not all because of this it is one of the cause of dumping.

This kind of method will be quite impossible. Not sure about the governments want to create a protection consider we are living on the manipulating market. When bitcoin gets a hard dump and the whole of people are feeling panic and wanna liquidate their coin asap.

I don't agree that KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants. managers have to find another solution to avoid multiple accounts.

KYC also can prevent the expected dump after listing coin. Bounty participants are first batch of sellers after starting bell on exchanges. There is no proper solution due to unexpected attacks by speculants and reward owners.

I got a question. Does the bounty participants have a large affect on the price of the token when it hit exchange? I don't think it has, considering the percentage of tokens allocated for bounty campaigns. I doubt it has that big effect on how the price goes in the market. I think dumpers are those investors with bonuses in their investments made a huge impact on on the price drop after listed on exchanges.

In reality and ico can do everything right and still dump in the market. Project teams can only try as much as they and to prevent this from happening but if the project itself lacks quality and its token sales sold out based on hype and astronomical bonuses, then an eventual dump is inevitable.

Well kyc can not prevent the fall of the coin, I think you need to competently enter the market that the coin was not at the bottom!

I want to tackle 2, the truth is if you implement kyc and aml, it doesnt stop any project from dumping, even record has it that most projects with kyc dumps faster.
The basic goal is to simply ensure that the tokens hodlers do not have full circulation. i.e if an investors buy 100,000 tokens, it should be sent to them installmentally within months and the same should apply to bounty hunters as well.

if ico is considered good and wants to keep its exchange rate stable and can rise, it will delay the process of launching tokens to the market exchange. so even though the bounty hunter or investor already has ico tokens, they can't sell it yet.

I want to tackle 4 as well, listing on well known exchanges has little impact on your project value, so do not be deceived.
What matters most is the product we are talking about.

Pundi x listed in binance poloniex and others, and it did nothing to increase their worth

I agree with all you posted excepted the number two it's like promoting KYC when it is against the rule of decentralization, and we have seen how in the past ICO doing KYC for all participants only to vanish after a few months.

Most of ICO companies doesn't care about their token price after their sale end, which is bad for their reputation.
They are too afraid to spend money to protect the value of their coin. I think if they let their token price down, it can damage their token permanently.
If the token value gone too low, they will have difficulty to gain the value back, even at least back to ICO price.

That's right, these are just a few solutions to the problems associated with the quality of the token that projects are releasing!

I believe they care but the price in the exchange is out of their control, it's the owner of the token who are in control.
Never expect that the price will rise after it's listed, sometimes it will but given the market situation, price will likely to go down and the company you said already knew it, that's why sometimes some are not rushing in listing their tokens.
The way I see it, you like them to manipulate the price, I don't think they will do it, besides, what benefits they would get,
Maybe they can protect for some time but not in the longer run.

As good as those suggestions are, no one can really prevent coin or token holders from selling at a cheap price. Even measures such as having lock-up period can only prevents dumping temporarily.

A lot of ICOs looks good on paper. You'll only find out which ones are really good during and after development phase.

In order for tokens not to lose their value after listing on the stock exchanges, they must be in demand, be it a good or bad project. If there is demand, the price will increase. There will be no demand - the price of tokens will be reduced until demand appears.

The only best solution to paid the major exchange site, if you have seen the fact that most of big platforms are getting listed on the binance from the first time has not gotten a big dump. Volume plays a very important role in this thing.

i think we can't fight for dump after listing , especially when there bounty for it , but quality wont lie , if that ico really have good quality it will make more investor to invest for it and hold together

Good protecting from the dump is inevitable some projects once listed in exchange can be dumped for 90 percent soon they will get recovered from positive movement so ico companies can do measurements for coins nt to dump

Yes they need to protected from the investors for want to dump their tokens soon after it get listed but how to do that, listing the token on exchange after a while are going to stop those investors from participating on ICOs.

With all the measures we cannot protect ICOs from dump and we should not to do so. This is a free market and investors will decide what is their best interest. Of course projects should to do everything to convince their investors that they are doing everything in the best interest of the project.

Well your points are clear but I must say with those measures you can't protect any coin from dump. A project that's built to achieve great goals with good platform and token usage hardly get dumped as the investors are fully there to protect the image of that project for their own benefits ahead, but in a case where they have observe that the project has no future plan such as token usage then even investors has no option than to sell and go for the better once.

There's no way a particular ICO could be protected from dumping, even if they only sold there token through only ICO, some people that doesn't have patient will still dump it below ICO price talkless of if they gave airdrop and some through bounty.

Well, in this sense, and not to allow to sell below cost. That is, the possibility of selling will be limited. I think that this is quite real, but it is important that the project itself does not overestimate its capabilities and does not sell tokens at exorbitant prices during the ICO.

Good or bad ICOs, the are both open to dump on the exchange, depending on the market conditions or ico  bonuses or bounties. But the good ones will surely find their way back up when they start to meet their roadmap milestones.

Quality always doesn't mean it will get reflect on price. Sometimes dumped amounts are sold tokens with big bonuses like allocated tokes for private investors. Big boys dumps it and they buy same amount later for cheap price. Cycle turns and price finds its real value but bounty hunters are eagerly waiting for this moments in order to dump their coins. This is bad side of anonymity in exchanges and bearish market conditions can force real investors to sell in order to protect themselves from worse.

Sorry ... You want to say that project developers do not know what you wrote here ??? There are many factors that influence the price of tokens, and in current conditions, it is very difficult to ensure that the price of the token grows after how it will appear on the exchange, even taking into account the factors listed above

First of all, investors dump their Tokins for any money that they destroy the market. Projects should go to good exchange points. Projects must provide the necessary information to investors and not disappear after the distribution of coins.

Yes, it already seems to me that ICO no longer makes a profit. Of course, except the organizers.

Those are good suggestions to start with ams there are also other ways employed by some projects. Although, they would have been more effective, had it been investors are not having the mindset that come what may, no matter how good a coin is, it will still dump.
So with this mindset, they too will start selling their coins below the targeted price.
Trusting the system is of great importance.

This doesn't sound logical to me, in a free market, you can't determine to price of commodities. The price is influenced by market forces, demand and supply. So I don't see how an ICO can be protected from dump if a coin holder wish to sell his or her coin for little or nothing which is entirely his or her right.

Okay, so let's say there is a good project and many people know about that but the situation on the whole market is bad and even people who know this project and believe in it, how can you avoid the whole market sentiment to not push the price to lower levels?

Do not forget that now is not a good time for ICO. It is almost impossible to issue your coin on the exchange so that it does not fall in price. Now many people say that ICO is dead, but I think it's just bad times. When they are over, the projects will again be able to raise good funds for development and investors will also be able to get a good profit from these tokens.

There are no proper short ways to measure the usability scale of ICOs. Strong teams can deliver the promises but sometimes strong background can not resist to market trend. Price discovery is main tool to convince new investors.

Well, it's obvious that you have no idea about market economics, supply and demand, or even how to interpret basic market data.
While I applaud you attempt to find solutions, you have some very basic things off.

first, most of your conclusions are coming from what you see as bounty hunters or multiple accounts being responsible for dumps.
This just isn't the issue at all.
Any ICO will typically only allot 1 to 5% of the ENTIRE minted or available tokens to bounty hunters.
simple mathematics is that that percentage is not nearly high enough to cause catastrophic dumps like you predict.
And even if hunters cheat and use multiple accounts, it doesn't change the max alloted to bounty hunters.

There are much more simple reasons (and, of course, more complicated ones as well).
Prices dump after an ICO simply because they charged too much during the ICO.
Any ICO that charges more than 5 cents per token is ripping you off, yet somehow we have ICOs charging up to a dollar. Of course it will crash.

Of course, all good ICO projects are entitled to adequate support. But it seems to me that all these rules become overkill. The main condition is the stabilization of the market and the rise in prices of good coins. Then we can get the necessary support for the development of promising ICOs.

Market conditions make all ICO collapse. And to protect ICO coins, I think this is very difficult because of unfavorable market conditions. So that everyone, when they get a token, would want to immediately sell coins.

I strongly disagree with the author of the topic regarding the fact that KYC should be a prerequisite for all participants in the bounty. As you know, bounty-hunters do not like to go through this procedure, and the mandatory introduction of this condition can lead to the fact that the number of bounty-hunters will not be sufficient for the quality promotion of the project.

Unfortunately at the moment with ICOs it is a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. The market has little regards for what people have perceived as quality ICOs and in fact the only way to remain immune to the market rout was to postpone listing until conditions have improved.

now there are indeed many ICOs that have failed, so that last year until now it was not the right time and waited until conditions improved.
the market is really bad but can't give up because I'm sure the future will improve and ICO can be better, many projects are successful, optimistic and always enthusiastic.

Upon reading this topic, I wonder whether token or coin lockup is necessary to keep the price in a stable position where it can be highly profitable in the market? Am I correct? Or somehow, maybe lock up is not really necessary?

it is very difficult to find ico which has no dump, most ico always give a fairly long profit but after there are issues or other things, most of the ico prices are immediately uprooted, maybe the one who keeps the dump is a stable coin themed ico

Market sentiment right now does not help any of ICO projects. Look, even when the project really is with new technology and the team is active most people see daily red numbers and they don't think about risking it into alts.

indeed today is very difficult. even just to get profits is very rare because of course when the initial listing many ico actually destroyed the price because of the current market in a bad condition

don't you think that ICOs collapse not because of market conditions but because of lack the real usage of their ideas?

And the last year showed us that only best of ICO projects are worth investing not the "good ones". I think the reality after bubble may be hard for some newbie people but it really isn't, there were just too many bad ICO project that looked great.

Everything what you wrote is nice, but ICOs do not have enough money to manipulate the price after listing and they do not care about the price. Some of them care about the product, so they invest all money into development and some of them do not care about nothing and they completely leave the project. It is easy to collect money in ICO sale, but it is hard to become successful after ICO phase. So be careful, ICOs are very risky!

Of course, this is correct and in terms of honesty today there is such a need. But if you focus on the fact that today all the same there is a need to just do the project and then sell the tokens on the exchange. I think it would not be entirely correct.

I believe the counter measures mentioned in OP are practised by some ico projects but we still see dump in price. I think it is a matter of the marketcap, but well suggested OP.

I agree with the terms you wrote but I think it a project is good enough, even if it dumps when it lists on the exchange, it will still find it way to moon if the team is serious enough and the invest in the product.

I agree with you, but on the other hand, investors themselves often sell tokens after ICO. I only sometimes see ICOS that people have invested in in the long run.

I like the idea of continuing to protect good projects from dump, to provide sufficient support for them. But in fact you need to understand - it is very difficult to determine in advance which ICO projects will be successful. But mandatory KYC can be a problem for the market, putting at risk the protection of users' personal data.

Gone are the days of good ICOs ,they don't exist anymore unless its a security tokens like STO ,we need a new way to handle ICO or else its goodbye for ICO 

all the reasons you mentioned are very cornering the bounty hunter, even though you also need to know that causes dump prices not only to bounty hunters, it can also be investors who make their prices dump
investors who get the biggest bonus at the beginning are usually the ones who first get their tokens and they can make the dump, even if the new coin / token is in an exchange with a good reputation, the dump cannot be avoided

Really agree with your opinion, almost of ICO project always dump after listing their coin at exchange market, they could protect their token from dump and never have way how to make their coin raised up with buy back with their money.

This is something that usually happens after ICO and that a dump occurs. And I don't think this is only caused by a bounty hunter but an investor who throws a coin. Because if of course investors have coins that are larger in number than the bounty hunter. However, some ICO projects prevent dumps. By the way, the total coins obtained by bounty hunters are sent every month for several months.

Its the personal responsibility of the investors, airdrop participat and bounty hunters that can keep the token in good shape. Also the team's management is the vital role to keep an eye on it.

If you want to protect your investors, make the least effort to launch something with product or application, then allow the market and investors to judge and give the fair and balanced price! Many ICOs offer a huge amount of tokens and suddenly find themselves aimless, deliver nothing, do not know what to do. :) But perhaps, there are some ICOs, that the project did not leave the paper without any investment, for example, some DEXs.

Good question. These days it's difficult to know which ICO is genuine. Any ICO that wants to excel should first show good transparency to investors. While listing, maintain the initial ICO price and stay there.

I think that they need to figure out how they will support their development at the initial stage and this is the main question

I think it is not always easy to determine which project is good. If investors do not take care of the project and do not maintain liquidity, it will be difficult to save the token from the dump. Much depends on token liquidity  .

That depends on the how much demand that will generate volume on exchange site. you need a lot of order buy to prevent the dump that created from the sell order. volume is the only correct answer to prevent this dump. that's why most of the good platforms applied major exchange for its first listing.

It is very important that the project be interesting and promising, because in other cases, many will refuse to provide their documents!

Now it is difficult to judge what kind of ICO will be able to enter the market. Is that very large, which has already raised funds in private.

If there are really good ICOs coming in the launching, it is good if it will be develop more ,so that it will come with a good success , so help it by not dumping the tokens immediately so that the price value of tokens will rise up high and will have a good effect and exchanges in the market in the future.

I have come to the understanding that, no matter what is done, there are coins and in fact almost every coin will first dump at their initial listing.
Nonetheless, some certain coins will still rise, but it depend on so many factors. If those factors are not fulfilled, such as an active developmental process or a product that is already in use, which will bring value to the coin, the coin might continue to dump.

Often people invest and they hope to make money quickly but not because they believe in the project, so it’s hard to argue them not to sell tokens

In fact, it's easy to distinguish 1k bad projects from some good ones - we have a set of assessment criteria. It's more difficult to guess which of good projects will grow and which will disappear.

I've seen so many ICO projects after completing their ICOs start to talk about the whole moon talk, lambo talk but in terms of product they show us no substance. Any project's team that only wants to release news during an uptrend is clearly a pump & dump token. And sadly most of the ICO investors want to get involved with those projects because it is in those moments their dream of making quick bucks come true. But most of times their dreams get shattered.

The roadmap of project is very essential. If not followed duly, it can affect the trust that investors have in such project.
Sometimes,if there are changes in the roadmap, it is better  the community is informed in order to foster more support for the project and its team.

For now, you may rarely see any good ICO because of the bear market.
In 2017, there were many ICO's doing buyback to protect the value of their token so their token won't dump while crypto in a bull market.
I guess the market condition can affecting the ICO performance in the future too.

I also wish many ICOs be protected from dump.
I did a certain project, name withheld, the ICO did not even give a dump value and I so much appreciated it because the token was just so useful for me when things were so dry. Since then I have imagined why others cannot help out that way. Even some refuses to release our token.

It is indeed very important, the good and potential ICO in the future must certainly be very protected from the name dump. Because it can't be appreciated if a good ICO has to be dumped. Actually this dump cannot be predicted or controlled by anyone. Because everything is pure trade. So we must maintain that a good ICO can be protected.

That is very s important step to take to keep the project alive, I see some project place significant buy orders from raised funds to keep the tokens value alive in some cases. Dumping can affect the project badly and make it lose potential investors.

Nice ideas where good and best ICO could protect for price dump and have planned by owner to buy back if their ICO price dump, many ICO after listing at exchange market make price dump because all of their team coin allocation sell and make price is dump.

The effect of a large bonus when ico and large bounty allocation is the reason why the price of coins can experience a very large decline at this time. in my opinion this is a natural thing that happens

Why not just have proper use case and bring token to the good exchange with liquidity instead of exact opposite then saying our token is down?

I think they should focus on developing their project, if their project is really good, its price will never be dumped! It is also a long-term way for their projects to grow

They need an exchange site with a huge volume, this will protect the price of token from getting a big dump. Remember about so many tokens are only applied to be listed on the small exchange and it doesn't enough to prevent the sellers.

       Yes I believe this will  be minimized because as  I thought investors are the one doing the dump before the bounty hunters and if they are organized and they'll communicate each other for the progress of the projects , I think this is really the answer of the longtime problem of the ICO .

you have a good point about minimizing or let me say avoiding the coin being dump. Not everyone want KYC even good and legit participants will not do the KYC just to participate, but this is a good thing to implement to avoid multiple accounts and members will still continue to support the project in the future

I see your good point on how it would be protected from the dump. But when the investors or the bounty hunters and even the holders decided to sell their coins or dump it on its lowest price, we have no control about it. The market decides the projects future.

Your points are very useful expect the KYC ,I have no problem dropping my identity card and house address to claim tokens or coins but my question is how safe is my identity? This is why many don't like KYC implementation

The suggestions you mentioned are very good. Now many project parties lack confidence in their own projects and start selling after the listing. I think it is very necessary to constrain the project side.

who should protect it? are we hunter bounties? or investors?
I think the best way to protect an ICO from dump is to buy back the team and dev from the project to do

Not all of ICO team and owner will be responsibility with their ICO if have lower price after listing at exchange market, we need new ICO at the next time could have regulated how their price could be higher than ICO price.

Even this will not give the desired result, because sometimes the projects themselves merge their coins instead of burning them!

I totally agree that companies that really deserve to be constantly at the highest level should take care of the price of their token, but at the moment with such a market it is very difficult, therefore it’s difficult to do something about it.

The main thing is the projeck is not a fraud. because we know that there are so many fraudulent projects right now. we as bounty hunters must really do research on the product or the project they offer

It is very difficult to determine how good the project is until it is fully launched. Even if it is possible to protect the token from the dump, this will require huge investments, everything will still have a bearish trend factor, which somehow will crush the cost of the token.

I think you can reduce your list and leave KYC and Bounties. I agree that ICO participants must undergo a KYC process, every single one. Moreover bounty hunters as well, and they should be paid in stable coins or in BTC to avoid dumping.

I think there is no point protecting a good project from dump because if the project is good enough, even if it dumps upon exchange listing it will surely find its way back up when the team and developers start to realize its potentials by meeting major milestones on their roadmap or when a bullish market comes. However the list you made is the features of a good coin or token.

Much better if the project deliver its working product to increase the demand for coin because the exchange itself wont be enough for value of coin to grow, they also need more marketing strategy and keep doing some noise for the project after the ICO to invite more buyers or investors to acquire their coins.

Dumping can mainly be controlled by the ICO team. They usually have the largest quantities of any particular coin and can dictate the pace of the price. 99% of dumps are caused by the team not investors or bounty hunters.

I see your point, but in the end, it's the market that controls the price, and therefore the demand and supply of that particular coin. If people decide to dump it, there's nothing we can do about it.

that's true because almost all coins experience such a thing, there are no coins that really have a smooth road, almost all of them experience a dump at the beginning of entering the market but because the developer and community are strong then they can pass it and can recover to a decent price

As far as people in this space still aim for the gain, and profiting being the sole purpose of supporting a project, price dump cannot be totally eliminated but like you said can still be minimise. 

If a project is solid and reliable, has a good team and a well done whitepaper, then people will believe in it and invest their hard earned money. Good projects are very less likely to be dumped, but there will always be dump because of get rich qiuick people who just want quick profits and don't care about the project.

I think that the organizers of good ICOs will figure out how to make sure that the project participants do not collapse the project!

Lol, yes. But, even if there is a good ICOs which has so many dollars have been raised, the only thing the bounty hunters think they are gonna sell it once they listing on an exchange.

Good stuff you have written above but mind you, people want easy profit in this space, and that is somehow unavoidable. Same way you can't stop people from selling if there's a FUD is the same way you can't stop people from dumping their tokens after listing.

Of course, all these methods are good, with the exception of KYC. Fraudsters often reuse the personal data of participants in further schemes of their personal gain. With proper and well-coordinated work of the management team with ICO members, it is quite possible to do without KYC. Personally convinced.

You have to look deeper to send KYC to project projects that don't have responsibility later. A lot of bad things happened to some people in the projects they had followed.

Mist times, there is little to what investors can do to prevent the tokens they bought from dumping. There are some instances, where private investors, project team or advisors might be ones dumping tokens on exchange. There are also cases where those who were partnered with, most especially those of them given tokens, might go ahead to dump at any price, because they have it in huge quantity.

This can be done in two simple steps. First of all hunters should be paid with stable crypto currencies like ETH or BTC, or even USDT. Secondly team members should be able to create enough hype around the project after TGE.

The ICOs could already at least come up with some things in progress and that would be soliciting money from people just to give continuity or expansion of some product. Do you really think there would be participants in these bounties campaign? ICOs need to be more responsible for the amounts of money they collect and do nothing.

This is actually what all the teams in the project must learn. How to keep the price of coins stable after listing in the market. Because, most projects after the direct listing are dumps. We do not blame the bounty hunter, the investor or the team from the project. We should be together to prevent a dump.

yes, the ico that really have some value should take some small tricks to avoid token dumps after the end of the ico, such as listing only on prestigious exchanges and freezing the bounty token for at least 6 months

It is interesting that you see that the main problem with dumps is caused by bounty hunters. It was said many times that the bounty pool is about 2% of all tokens in average and simply that can´t cause such big dump, like many people think.

It is best to give the market a chance to choose the end result for a token and coin that gets recorded on a trade. As of late however, great ICOs need not bother with a technique to abstain from being dumped. Since the tokens are in intense interest and there are more purchasers that merchants hanging tight for it to hit trades. I can not state the equivalent for normal low intrigue ICO.

Concerning the company ico and their demand on the market, there are a lot of questions, but I am interested in one more thing, which concerns the prices of many Coins, which have fallen after the sale of the token almost an average of 300%. Has the price indicators for these coins returned to the level of at least the company's ico price or not? So far no one can give an unequivocal answer to this question.

not really, good ICOs are ICOs who actually run their projects like the roadmap they design, and who develop the products they make to make people use them. thus the ICO will be really far from a dump. but dumps are also unavoidable. well, that is in my opinion.

I still don't believe that dumping can destroy the life of a good project ,it a project is good enough devs need not to be worried or in fear of dumpers ,after dumping race is finished the token will find its way back and believe me KYC still can't stop dumpers ,it will only limit cheaters

You have to think not only about the fate of certain projects, but also about the fate of the entire cryptocurrency market. Because after the completion of the sale of tokens, developers very often withdraw cryptocurrency in dollars. Thus, provoking a massive sale of cryptocurrencies, which negatively affects the entire cryptocurrency market. Agree that lately this is what happened.

On the bitcointalk forum, I have repeatedly met information that Bitcoin dump and ethereum are provoked by the company's ico. Of course, you can blame them for this, but first of all the manipulators are to blame for the poor state of the cryptocurrency market.

Seems you care more about the money than the ideals of cryptocurrency. Imposing kyc will only reduce the number of bounty hunters.
People will still dump no matter twhere a coin is listed.

Hi Denreal!

This is a great topic you have started. Another thing you could do to prevent ICO's from dumpening upon getting on the first exchange is to avoid doing any kind of air-drops. Those are just coins given out to people who do not care much about the project and are going to dump them immediately for the dollar. I am taking part of an ICO and we are going to make sure that there is as little initiative to dump coins as possible.

That's really good ideas. coin dumping serious matter that ICOs facing. Mainly that happens from the bounty hunters side. In that case, Etherdelta and Forkdelta are like the enemies of the projects. Anyway, the KYC process is a good thing to avoid multi-accounting. But there are the risk personal information can be exposed to dangerous people. and Some countries use their ID documents in their native languages. So, there will be a problem when they going to pass the KYC process. the IP recording is a good solution than the KYC process. :-\ :-\

Good ICOs do not need any protective mechanisms. If the product is in demand, and the team is professional enough and honest in their intentions, then all the difficulties are only a matter of time. Many unnecessary and useless on the market.

That is not enough, you have to make a good progress before exchange listing and also it would be great if you  pump your coin by money collected in a token sale. I guarantee that you will prevent the dump if you follow my instructions.

One factor that could check the dump of a coin is to have an experienced team behind the project. Most of the promising projects pay huge sums of money to signal groups to trigger a pump for the coin. If this happens, the dump of the coin is inevitable. To prevent this, team members of the coin must avoid signal groups and focus on developing the product and the platform of the coin. Eventually, the coin will see its true value on the market.

I don’t think any token or any icos needs protections of any kind
Because  on the market scale; there is no preferential treatment except for shit coins that does pumps and dumps

So always cash in at the right time

Majority of the investors look for quick profits once the tokens are released and listed on website. That's why dump is more common these days. There are only some investors who really want to hodl their coins/tokens. This is why some recent ICO's locked their crypto until they believe that there is a favorable market condition exist.

I think there is one more way of how to avoid price dumping and this is not just one first listing but like 4 or 5 exchanges on the same time. This helps to divide the dumps and to avoid a dramatic price decrease in general.

Coach dumps can be avoided if the strategies of ico teams are well known as a token list by known exchanger as found by the top 10 exchanger and with it being added to other exchangers to prevent the token holders from only exchangers until they lose their price due to the rapid sale of tokens.

I think with this bear market condition Exchange listing Postponing would be best option. But it may occur several problem from investors side. But i believe protecting project is more important than panic exchange listing.

It is the bounty hunter who damages the price on the market after being registered, if the investor will hold their coins until the price is above ico.

Not just hunters. As the market prices are lower, the investors also sell cheaper. This is due to the feeling of loss, even BTC holders sell cheaply. It is best to wait, because it may take a long time to recover.

Most dumpers came from bounty campaign, it's just unfair for those people who truly invest in the project. I would say that natural influx of users has to be seen in order for them to truly see the establishment of there ICO. There is no easy way to gain money aside from getting something from people, this is why investor should really have a lot time of reading about a project. I also prefer buying coins that are already established than ICO, it takes time for a coin to mature. Better to have a multi wallet like Hodler and buy every kind of coin to not miss anything.

The issue of listing coins on the exchange should be carefully thought out by the team. I believe that if the team responsible, then it will not have any problems with it.

When the ICO is good, it doesn't matter if it has KYC or not! The issue of ICOs seeing their lower prices at market openings has to do with the fact that they demand of people an illusory price! If ICO has a price and goes to market with the same or higher price, which is very rare, it means that this project has a lot of value and that ICO ended up camouflaging. In a quick survey, they will find that the $PPT ICO was successful and prices stayed above. I didn't invest in this ICO or even made part of some bounty campaign, just wanted to show an example.

Choosing a good ICO is very difficult, even like playing games. If you can't play well, it will end in defeat. I agree that a good ICO project has a very experienced Development Team and that KYC Bounty participants are needed. I think we must be smarter and more careful in making choices.

Unfortunately good ICOs get lost between all this scam ICOs that exists nowadays because they are just surpassed by them. Investors don't even want to hear about ICOs anymore since they are wasting a lot of time doing research on every project since they can't be sure about anything.

What is needed from an ICO to survive in market conditions is to use a token or coin utility. By maximizing the usefulness of tokens, the daily trading volume target can be achieved.

Good points raised,we have seen tokens dropping by more than 90 per cent soon after listing on exchange, a typical bounty campaign usually allocate not more than 5 per cent of total tokens created for bounties, so one wonders why an investor will sell tokens at a loss or bounty hunters selling valuable tokens off.Bottom-line: many of these tokens are worthless and has little to do with bountyhunters.

Ico can't avoid dump especially when it hits the exchange. Some users will dump it for a small profit. Some bounty hunters too will dump the token because they only get it in bounty campaign. Also if the project is not developing their product. Then investor will dump it too

Very good ICO will be survived, whether it protected or not. The dump may happening because some investors or hunters selling,
but another investors who interested about the project will buy the coin, so the dump won't be long and the value of the coin will recovering.
It will be different story if the ICO not good enough, the coin/token value must be protected to avoid dump.

Even how trusted and credible those bounty managers are, you can't actually stop a bounty hunter from dumping the price of it because they are the ones who dictate their price.

But the question is, how? If you wanted to make such a protection to the dump, there are so many ways but its too difficult.

The solution to all these is to have a standard for qualification for anyone who would join such campaigns, they must have a good track record of quality work.

ico team also must anticipate the occurrence of dumps by holding down the distribution process, for listings to be carried out as quickly as possible. the token distribution for bounty hunters can be held to wait for the price to be high enough and after investors get the profit, the bounty hunter can be paid, it will be fair to many parties.

The real good ICOs should not be affected by any short-term dumps. Those will bounce back stronger over time. Carefully planned lockup periods can mitigate some of the dumping.

We have a lot of examples about good ico which not get any dump but they were getting a huge increase after listed on the exchange site. We must see that about where that will be going. Basically a good ico means a big demand to protect it from the dump

News Flash! It don't! I have experienced a bounty previously where they lockup the team's token and bounties also and it did not completely protect the coin's price from dumping. Some has even dropped below 10x their ICO price before listing and it was that investors doings. I only see things change when the ICO listed in exchanges that has high liquidity like Binance.

Protecting good ICO should be the concern of everyone of us because this is our world and will should do everything to protect our interest.I just hope something can be done to protect good ICO.

This is not happening with each and every project, there are good projects that progress good when it's been launched for the usage. Once after getting listed, due to the lack of trade support there won't be expected trading volume on the exchange. The big demand of projects were seen when there is at least a mvp. Good ico's truly recover even when there is a dump in between.

The only way to stop a token form being dumped is to freeze/not to distribute the tokens till the project starts making profit from the product and hence be able to provide dividend to the token holders. Though this should be predictable and be carried out in a fixed time frame.

I think it's very unlikely to make the price of ICO tokens survive a dump. even when they pay them with bitcoin, or ETH. there is no guarantee that investors who get a big bonus will not sell the bonus tokens they get. well, this can be avoided when a project really develops the project they are making.

In my opinion ICO must be used as additional money for the project, devs. must have large capital before making a project so that when a dump occurs they can control it.

now in the crypto industry is a period when good projects are lower than projects with a dubious reputation.

The whole problem could be solved by paying hunters with other crypto currencies. Everybody would be happy, but the most projects do not want to share their profits and want to share their tokens that are worth nothing right now.