Bitcoin Forum

Over 850 millions of people use alipay as means of payment mostly in china and i heard lots about wepay as well, i come to think of it that what if bitcoin was been used in their places instead? if alipay and wepay can get to where they are today then altcoins have all the chances of survival as well. Wepay and Alipay are just online payment solution, crypto can do better.

Real use cases plus real life working products, let these two be your main focus when picking altcoins to invest your money on, do not listen to those saying 'dump altcoins for bitcoin' when you are holding solid altcoins

Agreed, I believe that Bitcoin is the founding father coin. I think projects like Ethereum and consensus algorithms like Delegated Proof of Stake are whats needed, leading us into the right direction. To think we started with just Proof of Work. Many people don't have faith within the altcoin markets because a lot of the coins are alternative clones with little to no new innovation added. Many are indeed shitcoins, but there are some real sleeper projects out there that are game changing. It's the emergence of competition that drives innovation, every coin/token plays its role as a tiny cog apart of a larger mechanism.

If that's the case, bitcoin is the one that will be used not altcoins. So how come that altcoins will manage to survive if bitcoin was going to replace those popular payment methods in China? But I don't think that many will stop using those payment methods, they are convenient with that method so it's going to be hard for them to give it up.

You have to decide when you are in dire situation. It has been proven that having bitcoin is more of those solid altcoins. I hold altcoins but I have higher investment with bitcoin.

Your post is still pointing to bitcoin and i am sure that deep down you know that bitcoin is the safest option in today's market but my advice is to diversify your portfolio for better result, for me i go all on 70% bitcoin and just 30% on altcoins because too many altcoins are shitcoins and only very few of them are good, in time we will see what happens

The major barrier for mass adoption and use for cryptos in daily life is the government block.
Not to mention that Bitcoin or really any other altcoin cannot match the TPS of traditional banking systems and online wallets.
There is a long way ahead of us before crypto is actually used in day to day life.
Still, I believe alt-coins put more functionality on the table then BTC ever will but BTC is the first proof of work for a decentralized currency.

Bitcoin is the crypto king, nothing is going to change that for a while or maybe even forever but altcoins have did alot in crypto history right from the start of ICO projects that drove many new investors into crypto and this makes new money enter crypto as well, its really a big point that bitcoin can't do it alone, many altcoins will still be standing strong at last

Bitcoin stands for its own no matter what. But the fact is that Altcoins can't stand for themselves without Bitcoin. So anyway, Bitcoin will leave for a long time as well the other cryptocurrencies.

It would have been better said that an altcoin that has a good usecase, has a better chance of survival and of being used than just a pump and dump shit altcoin.
Altcoin would have been so used widely, but for some of the lapses attached to it, most especially some coins, when it comes to trust.

If we describe this as a survival challenge, bitcoin will only take those who deserve to be there. There are many good projects. Those whose blockchain are most reliable and scalable will survive along with bitcoin.

I think bitcoin is a technology that was created to be able to survive on its own while the prices in bitcoin can never survive alone because the price of bitcoin can be high because it is influenced by very high demand and with very limited supply makes the price of bitcoin increasingly expensive but the technology can run by itself and is only active when there is demand.

As we all know bitcoin is circulating by many parts here in cryptocurrency like altcoins. It is doing its task to promote or to do not underestimate altcoin and it was same to altcoin. Bitcoin will not be bitcoin if there are no other department.

Crypto can do much better than these existing payment solutions, just more awareness is needed in public.
I somehow agree with you that in the market along with the bitcoin, alts also got their place and importance. Using alts will be better and beneficial for the digital currency payment system, but to say "survive" will be inappropriate.

There are many cryptocurruncy are come up. Like bitcoin and other cryptocurrency are some of this helping many people and giving us an opportunities to earn and get some income with high percentage. But they don't stand alone. By the use of internet they are ineterconnected to each other and giving them chances on marketplace. This are use in some payment and digital wallet as well as a transaction method.

The existence of bitcoin itself can not survive by itself. But with the presence of bitcoin, new business opportunities are created for those who have ideas and set forth in the blockchain system.
The existence of altcoin, e-payment, or e-wallet, can actually foster the development of the business world because of rivalry. Surely this competition is headed for good, which can provide the public with good service.

Yeah, what if Bitcoin was used in there instead? We wouldn't need all this altcoins in the first place. Although there are some altcoins that are very good, you won't deny that Bitcoin is still the safest of them all. You can't defeat Bitcoin when it comes to investing. When Bitcoin moves, all those altcoins follow. In the end, they all falls down to Bitcoin. Bitcoin can survive alone but altcoins can't.

Means of Payment is just one genre where crypto would be used. Bitcoin is not designed to be a means of payment. Satoshi might have said it somewhere as payment coin but I'm pretty sure satoshi intended to make it the way it is. There are new and innovative crypto projects that are instant on transaction with zero or negligible fees.

The existence of bitcoin to itself can't survived bitcoin. Because all we know that here in crypto world we need variety of coin and also need competition. I am not against in bitcoin, actually I am now holding some bitcoin and look the price of bitcoin right now it is continue to fall so I think we need some alternative like altcoin.

Why can't bitcoin be relied on to replace alipay and wepay instead?

While i agree real use cases plus real life working products are essential for any coin to succeed, but i don't see why we need so many altcoins to do so. If bitcoin could do all this instead imagine how big it would be. We would be in for a great upside as well as early investors.

Payment systems that work well without bitcoin do not need to attach the 5th wheel, if something from cryptocurrencies will tied, it will be a fast currency, like LTC or DASH.

Yes true, without strong altcoins then bitcoin will not interesting for investor, as we know now that the bitcoin marketcap reaches more than 65%, and the rest for more than 3000 altcoins, if many altcoins die and cannot compete then bitcoin also die.

we can't make a bond on altcoin to be tied to any other real platform.
that is a very good thought, they have a system that may not be much different from the blockchain. but now we will only see how altcoin from several platforms focused on developing their platform. the movement of crypto also cannot be like virtual money officially launched by the state. usually, the money does not have market price movements because they are only for payment instruments not for trade assets. while you know, crypto is largely a traded asset even though some are used for payment.

That is why we cannot fully compare Bitcoin with all the altcoins because they are different in the first place. The are the same in terms of being cryptocurrencies and built on blockchain but in terms of use and function, they may be world apart. It is not fair to just trash all altcoins because they are lesser cryptos than Bitcoin. There are so many ecosystems made and each of them could have its own crypto. There are more focused coins. Bitcoin is generally for overall spending. Most altcoins, on the one hand, are specialized for a specific purpose.

I can't get the context of relating Bitcoin to alipay, that bitcoin can't survive alone. Actually bitcoin can, what I can perceived is that, other altcoins accumulate the volume of the market. I think it would be better if there are less altcoins in the market. Through that, bitoin's volume would be even better. Which is opposing the side that bitcoin can't survive alone. But right now, the relationship might be considered mutualism since some coins are helping others too, like stable looks being beneficial for traders.

Usage of crypto is increase from last 10 years, I believe it will be difficult for btc to held things all by its own. Altcoins can play a vital support to Crypto-market. But investor should analysis market trends (https://www.coincurb.com/news/) before investing as there are many scam altcoins.

It will come that Bitcoin could become one of the most used payment system worldwide. People around the world are undecided wether to use or not to use it as payment norm. High volatility is one of the main reason why most retail companies stop accepting it, but once its more stable no doubt it will outranked other existing payment systems.

Bitcoin is the old grand daddy of crypto and of cos it has better support than other coins but presently altcoins have many investors than bitcoin even after all the losses, crypto is able to achieve more investors because of altcoins because many belief they will make it with altcoin

Perhaps this is the main reason why Facebook's Libra wanted to join the market. Because they know that there's a lot of money to be made here.

I would agree but most of the time those product which have real life case are relegated on the background. And the alt that took the center stage are mostly shitcoins. Yes, bitcoin can't survived, this is an ecosystem, wherein everyone has it's own place and contribute to the success of the market.

No matter how good bitcoin becomes it was never built perfectly, thats the major point that bitcoin can't walk alone without other good altcoins at its side, features aspect of bitcoin is worse than most altcoins in crypto space today and i belief that some altcoins will do better than bitcoin

It is not right for btc to take the functions of all altcoins, and if all payments are made with btc, those coins will become redundant. I think btc can stand by itself, but the altcoins have goals and if they do not, they will not. Even if this system is changed, there will be nothing big enough to affect btc. Wait, this year's progress towards adoption will increase further next year.

Some altcoins outlast bitcoin in terms of a faster transactions but of course bitcoin is still better than any altcoins. Alipay is good in China, they are totally cash-less and hopefully soon cryptocurrency will add to their option. If the mass adoption started in China, there’s an assurance that the price of bitcoin will go up, maybe volatility is the reason of a slow adoption.

What else that does mean?

Dump bitcoin in return to buy those altcoins that you have said?
I donr think so.
How about we go to trust issues next time.
Wepay? I dont even know it and even the other one.
Yes, that is next. Popularity. And you are saying bitcoin does not have much usage?
Cmon. Be real.
I would rather stayed with the longest streak than new ones that might just stay for the meantime.

That's not the significant thing about volatile character of bitcoin, but if these companies will try to see what's the capability of btc to increase a commendable value. Bitcoin's journey could survive without other coins, but don't expect it to establish an expensive price. We need other crypto and stable adoption in order to maintain a stable market.

I think it can. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency, remember that.

As per my understanding BTC is like a mainframe looking at which all other altcoins were built and the trust, faith that all have on BTC is not the same with altcoins. If it was the same then there would be atleast one such coin that can replace BTC but, that is not the case.

It is not only china even if other countries adopt crypto payment even then BTC will be in its leading phase.

When it comes to the importance of a particular cryptocurrency, you need to understand that one cryptocurrency, like any one financial or other asset, cannot exist. If we talk about bitcoin as the only cryptocurrency, then we are certainly mistaken in the correctness of this. I believe that altcoins were created and are created to support bitcoin and the development of infrastructure, without which no project can work. We have already seen how the dominance of botcoin grew and was already more than 50%, this is the mechanism for feeding bitcoin. Personally, I see it this way. And of course, bitcoin cannot be the one and only.

I beg to disagree, Bitcoin is one of the most powerful coin in cryptocurrency, without it there are so much trust issues in cryptofield. BlockChain is what makes bitcoin run and it is the future of digital technology I guess. Bitcoin survives over a decade right now and there is still no problem other than it's transaction fee whenever the value goes up right? If the fee's problem would be solve in the next few years for sure bitcoin will be the key to revolutionary.

Alipay and Wepay are payment processors, while Bitcoin is a currency. That is the difference. Both Alipay and Wepay use the same currency (Chinese Yuan). So your arguments are self-defeating. Even with Bitcoin, we have multiple third party payment processors. Either you can make the payments directly with Bitcoin, or using these payment processors.

We need altcoins for some niche domains, but that has nothing to do with the arguments put forward by the OP. For example, Bitcoin doesn't offer complete anonymity, and therefore we need to use anonymous cryptocurrencies such as Zcash, Monero and Verge. For smart contract platforms, currencies such as Ethereum, Stellar Lumens and Omni are being used. Then we have stablecoins such as USDT and USDC to protect the users from volatility.

first of all bitcoin doesn't rely on anything to want to rely on altcoins to survive. it has been surviving alone all this time with shitcoins latching onto it to survive like parasites. :D

secondly as for survival of altcoins, it depends on the altcoin itself. so far 99% of what we had is purely garbage without any purpose and they don't solve anything. in short they have no reason to exist which means they have no way of surviving.
in order to survive we need actual good coins that solve something and then it won't matter what bitcoin does, they will do their own thing just like bitcoin is doing it independently.

Bitcoin and Altcoins are all cryptocurrency they needs each other to become productive. the market became colorful like these because of the Altcoins and i can never imagine the crypto-space with Bitcoin was all alone that was a lonely space. Bitcoin cannot survive without Altcoins and thats for sure if the global cryptocurrency adoption was realized today or soon i'm sure Altcoins and Bitcoin will be the two choices.

Recently, there has been news in the media that countries such as Venezuela and North Korea are interested in cryptocurrency.  Perhaps there are still countries that are on the sanctions list and which are interested in cryptocurrency, but nevertheless it seems to me that this can be very significant for the entire cryptocurrency market.  It is possible that these countries can start trading among themselves with the help of cryptocurrency and without the use of the dollar.  Thus, they will not only undermine the authority of the United States, but also its economy.  But the most important point is that such coins as Bitcoin and Ethereum can literally be used as a means of payment.  It is clear that this situation will attract a lot of investment in these coins.

I completely agree with you. At the moment, there are and will be quite a lot of different good altcoins. This is the same if people said that you use only the dollar and nothing else. But every country has its own currency. It is a large market with different currencies that are used for different purposes. The same goes for cryptocurrencies.

Of course altcoins have a lot of potential, and you should be smart and invest in those of them who have long term vision

Bitcoin could have a general fit for all this transaction in altcoin use case but it has a lot of limitations that was not taken care of until the altcoins came. The high transaction fee, slow transaction, low price and limited supply of coins.

it's possible that when altcoin comes with better quality and performance, it can cause many investors to switch to altcoin. traders will also think of convenience for transactions.
bitcoin should now be able to be an alternative payment for a transaction in the real world. not just as an asset being traded as it is today. although there are already those who use bitcoin as a means of payment, but that is not done with mass quantities.

yes crypto can do better than that, I also imagine that crypto like alipay / wepay and online payment will greatly affect the value of crypto, including the market situation for the better and also increase the price of crypto again. on the other hand I think bitcoin will run with altcoin because they need each other in this crypto space

I think we are all better with bitcoin alone. No stress no fraud
Everyone gets to watch bitcoin grow and adopted while also avoid scam and fraud ieos or altcoins

With bitcoin alone; it is even better

Bitcoin will not be used for daily transactions, because the transaction takes a long time. I think that in the future nothing will happen to Wepay and Alipay companies, because they will create their own cryptocurrency.

Do not count me as a Bitcoin maximalist. My portfolio has a lot of altcoins that are not just there because I received them but because I intentionally bought them. Altcoins are not enemies of Bitcoin. Altcoins are supporters of Bitcoin in other words. They are actually helping Bitcoin in some ways. But I don't think that Bitcoin needs altcoins. If there are no altcoins today, it does not follow that Bitcoin have long died. Or if all the altcoins will die in a year or two from now, it does not follow that Bitcoin will also die. Bitcoin is sufficient in itself. But it is certainly made stronger by altcoins. 

We must always consider here the market of the future which will be the most in demand considering Bitcoin and altcoins. Cryptocurrencies are composed of altcoins not just Bitcoin how can you trade if there are just one crypto coin how will the market exchange trade on this. So like real currency they need altcoins to run the market

it cannot survive alone because market is based on altcoins which is tradable by bitcoin and who are gonna trade if you only have 1 coin.

Yes, but we can be sure that Bitcoin will survive, while other altcoins are pretty risky. Did you see which coins were in top 100 years ago?
FeatherCoin, NXT, Banx. Where they are?

True, Bitcoin can't survive Alone, the blockchain space is bigger than just bitcoin, it comprises of other Altcoins. Although bitcoin is the number one but good Altcoin will gain value in the future,so if you are holding valuable Altcoin, good.

From the beginning, Bitcoin was created in the era of advanced technology in other words more and more needs, for example humans cannot live alone and Bitcoin is the same, then quickly created Altcoin as an alternative to digital currency exchange. More and more Crypto based in Blockhain continues to help with each other's advantages being natural so that new products continue to be born in digital currency trading.

Agree with your summation because no.man can ever be an island no matter the strength of the man. Bitcoin as a technology of payment method cannot perform the role of the altcoins as far the world of cryptocurrency is concern. There have been many other projects that came after Bitcoin and they are contributing to the fast development of Blockchain alongside Bitcoin.

Although Bitcoin be the mainstream manifestation of the Blockchain, doesn't mean it is all in all. Many Altcoins have been Keeping around Bitcoin and also, benefiting from Bitcoin as Bitcoin also benefits from them too. The season of Bitcoin always differ from that if the altcoins and they all complement each others.  

Bitcoin is Bitcoin. Bitcoin does not need any company, partnership or well known investor. BTC survived alone for years and it can go on survive alone.
Alt coin traders can not survive without BTC because alt coins can not survive without BTC. And last 3 months we saw how alt coins are deepened to BTC. BTC UP, alt coins down. BTC down, alt coins down. Physically they may survive but the values of the alt coins will  crush without any recovery.

We all know the fact that; Bitcoin is Bitcoin but, need sometimes those to rely on and not solely itself alone. Bitcoin was created alone to strive in the cryptocurrency world but, no matter the happenings today, altcoins still served a major purpose in the world of cryptocurrency. Currently, the price of altcoins have change from low to grow. Bitcoin fell early this year and still try to recover it deep. I wouldn't say that; Bitcoin will or can stay alone without any help from the altcoins,

its not that bitcoin can't survive alone
bitcoin can do...
people are the ones who wont survive without altcoins...
for many reasons

all altcoins above can't survive from the competitions in altcoins industry my friend
but, in my opinion, bitcoin can survive alone without any altcoins

You are right. There are different types of money and with/without  proper regulation by centralized bodies, bitcoin can be classified as digital form of money. If this happens, bitcoin can quite survive alone as other financial assets. Buy like you said the people need altcoins for those varieties it offers in trade for profits

Bitcoin is the topmost crypto currency, it is clear that Bitcoin cannot survive alone, because all altcoins depend on Bitcoin, for example in the sale of large altcoins whether or not our income depends on the price of Bitcoin, so it's no wonder Bitcoin can also be called the king crypto.

of course bitcoin cannot stand alone and altcoin accompanies and complements it. when I hold the king's altcoin then surely I will hold it longer. like ethereum, bnb, xrp, and litecoin.

Bitcoin shouldn't be tranferred to USD. Bitcoin is Bitcoin and Altcoins are Altcoins.

Bitcoin is the coin that determines the future of this market because it is a coin that has a huge influence on investment and every Bitcoin fluctuation can cause a lot of losses. I think this market is getting more attention in recent years and a lot of investment funds are willing to enter this market anytime they want. In my opinion altcoin will increase if the investment demand increases and this will make everyone make good profits.

Now is a very important time and if Bitcoin can reach $15,000 by the end of this year then I am sure the market will grow again.

I agree, some altcoins are created for a different purpose. We should not just focus on supporting bitcoin but also need to help altcoin with an aim to provide legitimate product and service which can be an alternative in the future. There are altcoins out there which has a good potential but lacks support from investors.

I've heard of lots of alternatives that are trying to compete with bitcoin but the problem I usually see is that bitcoin has the history behind it and the first mover advantage so it is hard for new technology to really compete. Plus you have stuff like lightning network for the medium of exchange aspect of bitcoin. I guess there are weaknesses in the POW algorithm due to miner concentration but I think if that really gets to be a serious enough issue then it might be possible to fork the chain to some sort of different method. That's the beauty of bitcoin, it is democratic and can be modified as needed going forward. The vast majority of the community is focused on maintaining the unique aspects of bitcoin which make it valuable. Bitcoin is the father of great technology and will be forever the main standard in Blockchain and Crypto trading.

i think that Bitcoin has survived the test of time so even if there are other cryptocurrencies bitcoin can  strive in the cryptocurrency world.Bitcoin is  cryptocurrency but cryptocurrency is not Bitcoin. There are thousands of cryptocurrencies across the internet but Bitcoin is easily the most important and it drives the market.

What? bitcoin lacks in some areas like transaction speed and fees, altcoins are built to fix those problems, if any company wants to implement any existing coin they will be forced to choose altcoin over bitcoin because of these features, i think bitcoin still can't do without altcoin

Who knows, maybe Bitcoin could survive alone in the cryptocurrency sphere, but we certainly won’t find out, but even for all ten years we see that the demand for Bitcoin is very huge and would be even greater if there were no altcoins, so Bitcoin always was the king of cryptocurrencies and will be, but altcoins are already the second grade of cryptocurrencies and most, of course, are interested in Bitcoin.

I have to admit that this argument is very funny. The OP want to say that Bitcoin needs help from the copycats to survive. In my opinion, it is the other way around. Bitcoin can survive without the help from altcoins, but altcoins will not be able to survive without Bitcoin. But still, for a healthy market, we need some competition from the competing currencies.

I think BTC can exist alone in this market. But without altcoin, this market will be very boring and hard to make money when investing

I would not be surprised if in 5 years in China will start working system Bitpay for example. it will not reach the rest of the world soon, but in China and large developed countries it will soon. about Russia silent it will be the last to accept cryptocurrency

Lol, Bitcoin without altcoin?  How could you imagine a "king" without his "subjects"?  Bitcoin had been spreading faster because of altcoins.  These altcoin caters demand to Bitcoin because people who are interested in altcoin that have Altcoin / BTC pair only need to buy BTC in order to get that altcoin.  It simply gives demand to Bitcoin.

 And FYI, people can survive even without Bitcoin what more without altcoin.

Yes you are right but they have to reconsider also different aspects before they will move to bitcoin payment. I am sure Wepay, Alipay and other services out there, they are plenty of problems that they are going to face before they will accept bitcoin.

Like the volatility of bitcoin price, I am pretty sure that they are worried about it especially if they cannot bear the price fall of any currencies that they like to use. But if they can take the risk then it will surely help the bitcoin to become more successful in history.

of course bitcoin can survive on its own because bitcoin is a technology that works when there is demand means that bitcoin can still survive it's just that the value or price may be reduced and will become very cheap when there is no demand anymore.

Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency and after a few years it still manage to be the first cryptocurrency in overall market and I think that is enough to say that bitcoin can survive alone without the help of the other cryptocurrency because it is the other cryptocurrency that cannot survive alone with bitcoin because without bitcoin, the market will be in chaos since there is no primary basis for their trading prices.

Wepay or Alipay is different from bitcoin or other cryptocurrency because basically Alipay or Wepay is fiat money in digital form. I think bitcoin is difficult to be used as a payment instrument to replace fiat money due to regulatory constraints but as a digital asset, I think the opportunity for bitcoin is huge.

Crypto space needs altcoins,  especially with BTCs biggest problem - transaction speed and costs. A bunch of altcoins can provide a more secured, cheap and fast way of transferring your money from point A to point B.

The altcoins help the crypto ecosystem for the cheaper transactions and for faster payments. Bitcoin alone is not supposed to be a worldwide payment gateway if there are enough altcoin aka alternative cryptocurrencies which solve the recent problems of the traditional payment systems. Let's take a Ripple project as an example, their team agreed with the giant companies for speeding up the transactions with the advantages of the blockchain technology.

Well, I don't think so because if we check the history bitcoin is all alone before and still manages to survive and I know that even now if bitcoin alone can still survive but it's not gonna happen anymore. Because there are a lot of coins now you can have a lot to choose you surviving alone will not gonna happen this time. For example in trading pairs, there should an altcoin going to pair with bitcoin that can make transaction when buying altcoins using bitcoin.

That is true. Altcoins with real usage usually have much value and are not to be dumped just like that. Sometimes people are afraid to hold some altcoins for long because of the fact that they can get dumped so hard up to even -50% within 24hours.

But so far, it is difficult to find the altcoin with real usage, and all coins can be a payment so far. But the merchant still prefers to use bitcoin, bch, ethereum, or litecoin to pay the transaction. We need to support bitcoin and altcoin, and bitcoin cannot survive alone. Bitcoin and altcoin is bond in the cryptocurrency and if the altcoin does not exist, then bitcoin will difficult to grow. Yes, I agree that crypto can do better. But the problem is people still prefer to use the existing payment and only some people who are willing to accept cryptocurrency as the payment.

I partially agreed in your statement. There are some altcoins that way better than bitcoin but bitcoin is the most famous cryptocurrency and people uses bitcoin because it is pure-decentralized and thats the problem of most altcoins. They are centralized in some ways and given that bitcoin itself have a fair distribution unlike other altcoins that have premine.

as far as I know, China prioritizes the use of technology originating from its country rather than using technology originating from outside their country. that is an absolute thing. In fact, I heard that 80% of Chinese people use Baidu compared to Google.

Baidu vs Google (https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/051215/baidu-vs-google-how-are-they-different.asp)

in the case of alipay and wepay, it is very difficult for China to replace it with bitcoin. In fact, China is also currently developing its own cryptpcurrency which can even compete with Libra. Even the Chinese PBOC said it was "close" to being released

China's PBOC about cryptocurrency (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-12/china-s-pboc-says-its-own-cryptocurrency-is-close-to-release)

In my opinion, one factor that keeps Bitcoin moving forward is that many people are interested in Bitcoin. because bitcoin has a good concept and a limited supply of pliers. so people can use Bitcoin as a medium of exchange that replaces virtual currencies. Moreover, the system built makes it easy for people to make buying and selling transactions via bitcoin.

Absolutely yes it can survive and can grow again but the needs to make it is the numbers of consumer amd the demand of it in short new projects that can be accessible as the way of crypto to carry on the demand of brc that users or people's csn buy on it and this is the on of the best way to btc growth. As i saw btc not stucks on its price and no volitality happens so ita good for its situao for now and hopefully will grow mor until it reaches its highest point again.

Bitcoin is the most popular and in demand among all cryptocurrency but I think it cannot single-handedly meet all the demand for crypto. Bitcoin has a bright future ahead and it does not need the alts the way alts need Bitcoin but why limit it to only one coin? People have different preferences to which coin they like more to use and which among them they think is profitable as an investment.

Bitcoin, after its appearance in 2009, has long existed alone. Therefore, he was able to continue to exist without altcoins. Of course, with the advent of altcoins, information about cryptocurrency began to spread faster. Now it will be better for Bitcoin and altcoins to develop together and together with means of payment in ordinary currencies.

The market has changed so I don't also think that BTC can hold on its own. The variety of available coins in the market makes this industry more dynamic than any other industry. It is important because with the variety of choices, they can feel the never ending different preferences of the public. Cryptocurrencies need each other, it is a competition but it is also a mutual relationship between each other like microorganisms working together to balance the ecosystem.

Bitcoin is the flagship cryptocurrency - brand. It is thanks to bitcoin that the popularization of the crypto currency takes place. But the functionality of the blockchain is developed by altcoins. They offer new solutions to various problems. I do not exclude that in the near future it is possible to mix different blockchain platforms. This will be the perfect solution for the cryptocurrency industry.

Blockchain technology is becoming more and more popular in our daily lives and many large companies are recruiting Blockchain programmers to build their own systems. In my opinion Bitcoin will be mentioned more and more in the future because investment demand is on the rise this year and it will be a good opportunity for the value of this coin to rise.

Over the next few years more than 5% of the population will know about this market so it will be a great opportunity for you to make a profit. I believe that Bitcoin' value will reach $50,000 and that will be the level that will happen in the future.

Initially, bitcoin was created as a single means of payment.Satoshi Nakamoto did not expect that such a huge number of altcoins would be created.If altcoins did not pump capitalization out of bitcoin,it would always grow and would already be on the moon.

no, I think the market will not be attractive enough if there is only bitcoin plus the current price of bitcoin, so investors / traders need other coins that would be of benefit to them. if seen like now bitcoin and altcoin become an attractive investment container, they compete with each other in price and are more attractive in my opinion than there is only bitcoin in the market

Most of people pick also bitcoin as usual but, So many altcoins that support bitcoin as a popular coins. Bitcoin for me is very special but other altcoins is important too. Call them crypto coins.

If we get altcoins from airdrops and bounty campaigns, it is OK. But given the current market condition, I am not confident enough to make investments with altcoins. Many of them have gone down by more than 50% during the last 2-3 months. For example, ETH is trading at 0.02 BTC per coin currently. It was trading at 0.035 BTC a few months back.

Bitcoin has been create to used world wide, if china are using wepay or Alipay, for online payment transaction, that has nothing to effect Bitcoin. because BTC has a prospect and is very easy and fast for online transaction on Blockchain Technology. Therefor Bitcoin has already survive, and many companies and private sectors are accepting bitcoin payment and is going to be a future digital asset across the nations.

We should not be so jealous, we should allow the use of altcoins. Already the use of BTC in China is many times more than alipay and wepay. It is impossible for bitcoin to adopt everything in the world, BTC's replacement does not give it more thing, but altcoins need to stick something so they can keep their place on the market.

yes, of course, investors need another coin (Altcoin), if there is only bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market may not be attractive and everyone will be burdened to pay expensive fees when making transactions. therefore business competitors are of course always launching new breakthroughs to make it easier for many people and more diverse in order to minimize transaction costs.

I think Bitcoin has increase its value relative to altcoins. Its dominance becomes significant because it is compared to altcoins. Indeed bitcoin also needs altcoin to dominate the crypto market. Although the majority of altcoins  eventually die, I still think their presence helps in the stability of the crypto market

For example, I do not believe in the scheme when one bitcoin remains and the altcoins disappear because nobody needs them. I do not believe in this. There are many coins that are in demand by investors. For example, look at the new YUSRA GLOBAL coin (https://yusra.global) with a POS-mining. Now mining in this YUSRA coin has just started and you can earn up to 30% per month only from POS mining. It seems to me that this is real and promising!

Yes, as the Op stated it is always necessary to find whether the altcoin or the project has the working product as well as the real life usage. This will keep up the project into usage generating more circulation to the respective altcoins. Going through coinmarketcap it is possible to find more and more projects with real life usage and good product, but there is no growth. Upon that every altcoins can't be expected to grow and reach high.

Altcoins have a place in this market but only if they are any good otherwise they have no chance of being around during the next years, but even more importantly even if what you are saying is true the market is not big enough to support many big coins at the moment, the user base is too small and it is why you see most of the wealth of the market in bitcoin, but once more people begin to adopt cryptocurrencies then you will see many alts cornering specific sections of the market and being preferred over bitcoin.

The cryptocurrency market is divided into two parts which are bitcoin and altcoins. One part cannot survive without the other as people use bitcoin to buy altcoins and also sell altcoins to buy bitcoin. I'm not saying bitcoin won't work if all the altcoins die today, of course not, bitcoin will work but the price will drop badly because bitcoin is the major currency in the market for buying and selling altcoins.   

Concurred, I accept that Bitcoin is the first  cryptocurrency ever. I think projects like Ethereum and litecoin like Delegated Proof of Stake are whats required, driving us into the correct course. To think we began with simply Proof of Work. Numerous individuals don't have confidence inside the altcoin markets on the grounds that a ton of the coins are elective clones with almost no new development included. Many are without a doubt shitcoins, however there are some genuine sleeper projects out there that are down evolving. It's the rise of rivalry that drives advancement, each coin/token assumes its job as a little machine gear-piece separated of a bigger component.

Cryptocurrencies can certainly do more than the above payment systems. However, the female cryptocurrency market is too unstable.
Without regulation, speculation will continue to happen, which means that it will be difficult for people to completely trust in any cryptocurrency payment instrument.
I believe this situation can only be regulated by the arrival of regulators in the market.

Smart investment strategy is to diversify your assets and use both bitcoin and altcoins. But you should be careful with altcoin investing. Bigger possible growth but higher risks when compared to BTC.

yes I think so, people always say bitcoin is the best, yes I think so too but don't consider all ALTs to be rubbish, I know most of them are like that, but there are a few that are really useful as a blockchain technology development. again the top ranking ALT coins are developing their technology for the better.

which coins are good now? Now even very large projects do not show any positive signs. it’s very difficult to assess the future for altcoins

Bitcoin was not build to be dependent with other currencies, so yes it will survive alone. Altcoins are born because they want to develop something better than bitcoin. Developers came up with different ideas that can fill the gaps that bitcoin is lacking. Even bitcoin itself went into hard forks because of stakeholders differences on how it would continue as a decentralized currency. Just like numerous fiats existing then bitcoin and altcoins can co exist too.

OP is like a hard core altcoin believer and there is nothing wrong with it. It is normal that many people leaving altcoins because of the long bearish period. It is not about not believing the many altcoin projects were many are also very interesting to watch out but it concerns about their investments value.  

Nope. That's not true at all. Bitcoin is mostly used as an investment asset. And that is it's main use. BTC is used to trade altcoins, but such trades constitute only a minority of the total volume. And also, nowadays Tether is used more than Bitcoin for the vast majority of the altcoin trading. Altcoins need Bitcoin, because almost all of them are inspired by BTC and their exchange rate depends a lot on that of BTC. But at the same time, Bitcoin has no such dependability on the alts. It can survive without any of the altcoins. 

In my own personal opinion, bitcoin can survive alone without any altcoin because most people buys bitcoin rather than altcoins, that is why no altcoin have surpassed bitcoin when it comes to it's price or value. So altcoins are the ones who can't survive without bitcoin because most of them are inspired by bitcoin.

Yes. Bitcoin is need support. The answer is altcoin.
If altcoin can solve many problem worldwide, that is chance to help Bitcoin get heart from people.
They will try how easy Bitcoin and altcoin. Bitcoin as parent of altcoin have some benefit if people want use it.
But i hear in China is very restricted about cryptocurrency, so maybe they will slow but sure to take Bitcoin.

altcoin is not support for bitcoin. altcoins are temporary tools that help the market exist while bitcoin is looking for technical solutions to its problems

I agree with you all altcoin and Bitcoin are interdependent with each other, this is the world of crypto and here all are mutually beneficial between investors, the sale and purchase of altcoin, and bounty makers are all dependent, and here we are all united to benefit one another.

The problem is that there aren't many real life 'use cases' for altcoins.  I tried to look up places that took dash as payment, and the list was not only small but the merchants on it didn't sell anything I'd ever need.  This is unfortunate, because dash would function very well as a currency (as would many other altcoins). 

I'm not sure what you mean by 'working products' when choosing altcoins to invest in.  Every altcoin I know of functions just fine.  The only problem is that they most likely will never get used for any purpose aside from trading.  That might work for a while, but sooner or later people are going to realize that many altcoins are essentially useless, if not worthless.

Well I understand your point, we know that that in the cryptocurrency ecosystem today Bitcoin is seen as a trusted crypto but then we should also diversify,the blockchain space isn't just about Bitcoin, if our major investment is in Bitcoin, we should at least have little investment in Altcoin that have potential not just some shit Altcoin

You're right . Bitcoin has been chosen by many investors as a long-term investment as this is the only coin that hasn't changed much in price over the past time and according to the latest survey, up to 80% of investors will keep Bitcoin as personal property. There are many different opinions about this market but in general this is the only place to help you make a lot of profit without having to pay any investment tax.

Actually without altcoin bitcoin can develop by itself because we can see bitcoin enthusiasts bigger than altcoin, many people who don't want to take greater risks in investing then they are more likely to choose bitcoin, but with the presence of altcoin the development of bitcoin is getting faster, so there are positive effects too.

Bitcoin is still a good investment asset now and profitable. But the volatility is very high so this investment must be carefully considered by investors. Maybe for experienced investors already know where the weaknesses in this investment, but those who are new should start looking for weaknesses in bitcoin investments.
Bitcoin and altcoin are profitable investment assets, the decision depends on each of them to choose the right and profitable investment assets.

I think both of them must go together in order to develop well. In my opinion Bitcoin is the best coin to hold during this time period because people tend to keep this coin for personal property. Everything needs to be considered carefully in investing because not every coin can bring good profits during this time. Bitcoin cannot grow on its own without altcoin and vice versa.

Of course this is just my opinion and everyone will have different thoughts when it comes to this issue.

This is not a problem if alipay survives then altcoin can also survive, indeed in another sense altcoin can be survives or any other currency that has the same concept can be survive, I think here on which side the adoption will run. Survive or not is determined by the adoption of the community, bitcoin can survive alone but because of rapid growth and a high enough value cause weaknesses in the transaction. Then the generation of stable coins, they can s           end more transactions with a cheaper fee.

There is a reason why a certain coin could survive it is just because that coins serve for something special and has a place to stay in crypto.
Do we think that all altcoins could survive for this market competition? It surely not, cause not all of them are worthy to be trusted or a coin that serves good in the community. They are far from what Bitcoin does and to know also that most of them are worthless.

Bitcoin can go far alone even without altcoins support, it is only altcoins that can't go far without Bitcoin.

Bitcoin will develop or stand alone without altcoin and it is clear that altcoin is only an imitation or as an alternative to bitcoin, and for whatever reason bitcoin will survive on its own without altcoin.
bitcoin is the first digital coin in the world to grow on its own and over time altcoin is present as an imitation and many people choose bitcoin to invest because it is reliable compared to altcoin.

but if you rethink if until now there is only bitcoin as a digital currency it would be less attractive in my opinion coupled with a fairly high price to date. altcoin appearing to invest in crypto might be more interesting like the current competition between developers to attract people's attention to invest and buy their coins

Maybe it does not make a big difference to Bitcoin. A few million per day is too small for it. Looking at mass adoption as well, alipay itself can help in this regard, so they can do something without BTC. Besides, why should we take away its functionality? This payment system which will not make a big difference for BTC, can make a big difference for alipay. Altcoins should hold on to something to survive.

maybe what you have said is also true and will not but all are interrelated between the coins as a comparison even though many altcoins and other coins emerge the main guidelines in the price and fixed value of bitcoin in my opinion, but for the future no one can predict with certainty and the development of bitcoin affects other coins

It is up to the investor to hold the portfolio in altcoins or entirely in the single cryptocurrency. Affecting the decision of the altcoin investors will not ensure the higher profit/loss ratio, unfortunately. The altcoins carry a lot of risks and choosing the low-risk investments will give a low return on the investment in both long and short term periods. High risks mean more emotional and uncontrollable situations during another side of the expected market trend.

This could happen in the future once the regulator come up with a regulations that will favor all parties and if the government don't put too much pressure on them then they might accept Bitcoin as an other payment option on their platform. China is still denying Bitcoin but they are now on process of creating their crypto which means they knew that there are lot of benefits for having a digital coin like Bitcoin.

In my opinion this market is very easy to manipulate so there will be a lot of big fluctuations during this time. Even if you can make a good profit but your psychology is not stable, you will easily panic when the market has a sudden collapse. I think every investment decision needs to be carefully considered as the downtrend is still taking place so you will still face great risks.

I'm not sure what this market will look like in the next few years but I'm sure altcoins are not good for short-term investments because this year more than 95% of altcoins will be removed from this market.

I guess bitcoin will survived although he is alone, remember the history of the crypto in which bitcoin is just the only one cryptocurrency coin and there is no altcoins nor ripples back then and still bitcoin stand up and survive although it is alone. But now I believe he can still survive alone although the altcoins and the ripple become so down.

There is no such thing in this world that can survive alone.
Altcoins were created because it serves as other functions of bitcoin. It is created to fulfill the flaws of bitcoin.

Altcoins have different functions where bitcoin doesn't have. And vice versa. The demand for crypto cannot reach up to this point if bitcoin is the only crypto we have.

First you need to decide what kind of coin retention period you are talking about. The practice and experience of most traders indicates that the portfolio for the long term may contain only one name of the coin - this is bitcoin. As for alts, now it’s probably the time to go against the temptation to acquire altcoins for a long retention period. Today it’s worth checking every source of information. There are many biases. The reward is most likely not worth the risk.

In terms of better tech and features bitcoin is no where better than many altcoins and when we are talking about futuristic upgrades on tech bitcoin is way in the back while some altcoins will surely do better but since bitcoin is the first of its kind this is why its the best choice for millions out there

I agree with you. Investing in Bitcoin looks much more reliable than investing in altcoins. But I think it’s of great importance at what price you buy your Bitcoins.

What is happening on the cryptocurrency market today does not inspire confidence in any projects at all, and therefore, definitely only Bitcoin is the most profitable coin for long-term investments.  Although recently I have also been considering ethereum, since I believe that this coin will become a direct competitor to Bitcoin in the future.

It's true that altcoins are relevant,  but most are crappie. Adoption for altcoins will take a long time, so comparing them with Alipay and wepay is far fetched comparison since those ones are highly regulated. Decentralized nature of crypto makes it hard to gain widespread adoption and acceptance by government authorities. We just need a lot of patience when holding good altcoins anyway, thanks for the hope.

I agree with your statement above, so the conclusion is not to listen to FUD or someone who says that it is a bad investment.
I always believe in every decision I make and choose to go alone or not depend on others. So let's change our mindset to not depend on anyone unless the suggestion makes sense according to our thinking.

bitcoin can stand alone even without altcoin, but for come to be payment solution it's too hard for bitcoin because as we know for confirming 1 confirmation on bitcoin blockchain is too long, better than user another altcoin like Ripple.

ah altcoin was created to fill the weaknesses in the main cryptocurrency bitcoin

Those payment solutions are based on digital FIAT , which is stable and are regulated.
But altcoins are nor stable nor regulated , so your comparison is not actually valid and is not a good reasoning why to invest.

No one knows how the market will evolve. At the moment, bitcoin reigns, but it is not at all certain that it lasts. Who is on the internet from the beginning, knows that in the 90s the winning search engine was Altavista. Who remembers it?
Then came Yahoo, and finally Google. That has conquered everything.

It seems the caption and the content of the OP don't seem to correlate. Either way, bitcoin or any altcoin can easily be used as a potential replacement as method of payment for all forms of online transactions. The challenge has always being the high volatility on the crypto market  and the regulatory challenges that comes with it's application.

I agree, bitcoin can survive alone, some people use bitcoin as a store of value and not for alternative payment solution. Most coins/tokens gets affected when the btc price spikes in value and some follows the price movement with bitcoin.

If a king does not have followers, then the ruler-ship of that king cannot be assessed and it's ruler-ship might be questionable. The same is applicable to bitcoin. It must live and rule on altcoins, which us the reason for their existence.

Your last statement might be must correct, without Bitcoin the entire ecosystem of crypto might be dead or being unfollow by people who are here because of Bitcoin success. Bitcoin can survive alone as it's been accepted as additional payment process from businesses who seen the good usage of this system.

While for those who are working with trading, Bitcoin is one of a good store assets to hold to attain value in the long process.

There is no faith in altcoins because of the large number of garbage coins that do not bring any benefit to the market. Only fundamental altcoins will survive. And they together with bitcoin will change our world.

Bitcoin can survive without altcoins that much is clear and altcoins most likely cannot survive without bitcoin that is clear as well, still I think it is a good thing that altcoins exist and that is because it allowed us to take new paths in the development of the blockchain and see how they perform in real life, after all in theory something could perform greatly but when you try it doesn't, that way the developers of bitcoin can see what works and what doesn't and then they can apply what works to bitcoin.

for me bitcoin can survive alone without altcoins but on the contrary altcoin cannot live without bitcoin.

if for your intended payment they only use digital money whose value has been set by the state, in contrast to crypto money which no one regulates its value except for requests.
You should know crypto was not created just for payment transactions

I also believe that there are some altcoins worth to be adopted, and worth to be used together with Bitcoin, people want options in all the things they do and we have a very huge market to cover, but not thousands of coins in the market, I figure that 50 to 100 coins are just enough in fact already too many, and this is the reason are competing with speed scalability and fees, because payment processor will soon be replaced by Cryptocurrency.   

bitcoin stands alone, however, all crypto and altcoin currencies depend on the investors themselves and all developments also from the investors themselves therefore it takes confidence and patience from their investors and more and more interest in investing with crypto currencies certainly the crypto currency will also grow rapidly

Did you remember how big bitcoin gets a big impact caused by the demand of ICO. The big trend has been coming from altcoin when ICO has become a big trend in a few years ago. altcoin has brought a big demand for bitcoin especially to use it as a way to raise the funds. Bitcoin can survive alone but you should not count the garbage coin in the list.
The ecosystem needs a lot of cryptos. We have the top 100 CMC that brings more benefits to the bitcoin.

Reading your title is somehow looks very obsessed about bitcoin success (in a bad way though), altcoins are not that bad but the whole point of this discussion is about bitcoin itself, altcoins would have never been here without bitcoin's existence, altcoins was just a small part of Bitcoin technology that's been derived by developer's of it, there is nothing so much to brag about altcoins (mostly shit coins)

Bitcoin alone can survive and take all the spotlight it needs to be successfully get its mass adaptation in no time.

The fact that all or almost altcoins can covert to BTC, then bitcoin can really stand alone. It can use in transferring and doing transactions also. Though it's uses will not be fully discovered without those alts, since where we can compare it if no other cryptocurrencies created,there will be no crypto trading about to happen since we can't trade it to real stocks or forex. Bitcoin can stand as it own in terms of usefulness but will not be determined in trading.

Bitcoin will always remain independent as other altcoin are dependent of bitcoin for growth as they rise and fall along with bitcoin.  Investors are just looking for right opportunity to invest as right now it's little uncertain and apart from investors if normal users adopt bitcoin for huge transaction then it will give more pump to the value I think bitcoin needs to focus on commercial customers rather than just investors. Let me know if you don't get my point.

the strong spotlight is not yet certain to generate the confidence of world economic investors to really get involved, most of them disagreeing with decentralization.

as long as bitcoin is still strong only in the crypto market. altcoin takes important history for btc daily trading volumes to remain high from their trades. If conditions reverse and alt are sure to increase in volume through the usdt pair. then the dominance of BTC will also fall, in this case bitcoin is not able to avoid dependency.

I don't see any reason why bitcoin can't survive alone? You don't need altcoins for bitcoins to survive. As long as people buys and holds bitcoin it will survive. Even though if people can't use it as a form of currency, they can always use it as a store of value.
Sometimes your altcoins won't be giving you much profit like that of bitcoin. So it is better to let go of your altcoin and jump into bitcoin.

Is this a hidden advertise about WePay and Alipay using a controversial statement in the topic title?

but you must remember that bitcoin also requires an exchange rate such as USDT or altcoin to still have a sale value. although bitcoin survives on its own if there is no measure of the price that becomes the exchange rate of bitcoin then it is possible that bitcoin will not have a value up to now.

I heard Alipay has started a ban on transactions to crypto, and binance also does not support the purchase of crypto through Alipay now. You are right, bitcoin cannot survive on its own right now. The needs of users are more numerous and diverse, so the development of blockchain technology must follow the needs of users and was born with altcoin which has a different concept and function than bitcoin.

I am one of those who believes that altcoins have future if there's not, developers will not think of creating new coins or tokens in the market, there are some issues on Bitcoin that they want to complement, or try to solve, Ethereum's smart contract is highly supported by the community, because it offers different  option from what Bitcoin is offering, there's still a lot of coins coming in the market, and so we have a wide options to pick, this is because this technology keeps on evolving.

You're right! Bitcoin alone cannot survive on its own. I can give a comparative example. You find a source for example oil and in order to start producing it, then store it, transport it, process it, all this needs an infrastructure. In our case, the ecosystem. In other words, auxiliary cryptocurrencies and platforms working on them should be created. Thus, more and more people will be involved in the field of cryptocurrencies and more and more money will be invested in cryptocurrencies. All this will be the source of life for the main cryptocurrency, in this case BTC.

I really agreed with your opinion. Bitcoin cannot survive alone but some good quality with use cases will surely make blockchain a thing of reality.

I agree with you. Bitcoin can't do it alone, BTC needs altcoin's help to spread the crypto industry widely. Even many companies chose Ripple or Ethereum or other altcoins over Bitcoin because Bitcoin transaction takes a long time with higher fees. By seeing the bearish altcoin market, many people keep saying to sell altcoins to buy Bitcoin, some people always say shitcoin to all other coins except BTC! Real people won't care about their words. Just research yourself and pick a reputed altcoin, so you are good and you have no fear to hold those altcoins.

Even if there are good altcoins in the market today, it's still proven that bitcoin is giving us more profits compared to altcoins. So i cannot agree to OP why bitcoin cannot survive alone. Bitcoin leads the crypto market and altcoins are just at the back of bitcoin. And with its blockchain technology, i know it would be more useful if people come to adopt it in the future.

Alipay and Wepay both are not cryptocurrency or platform dealing with the industry, they are even ban users who are caught using their service for crypto.

No, We need companies to use the blockchain not altcoins. Bitcoin can do it alone, we just need awareness about the tech.

Id like to mentioned that even bitcoin alone with just 10 major altcoin market wouldn't tremble in fear. I guess people only expecting new projects to earn some dime from it.  I dont believe in this statement. I think bitcoin can survive considering its potential and the reputation as number 1 crypto in blockchain history.

In fact Bitcoin helps a lot in our present lives and the recent big market changes will attract a lot of new investors in the near future. It is still too early to talk about Bitcoin price increase issue as the market is constantly volatile and today Bitcoin has risen more than $1,000 in just a few hours. I think there will be a lot of surprises for everyone so please wait patiently.

For me, Bitcoin is always the first choice and I always hold more than 60% to ensure profit in the long term.

It can survive they have the dominance and the trust, and they are the number one coin in the market, they are not relying on any coin so they can always do it alone without this altcoin, it's the altcoins that can't survive without Bitcoin, because they rely on Bitcoin's trust to partake of that trust too, so give me Bitcoin anytime.

but if altcoin isn't there then the market will not look interesting. so I think the two share a market, even though bitcoin can live alone, there won't be this many users. if there is altcoin and bitcoin in the market, there will be more competition to attract investors and the market is more attractive as it is now but in terms of quality it should be questioned in the new altcoin

Let the markets decide that. There was a time when the altcoin market cap was more that twice that of Bitcoin (I am talking about the 4th quarter of 2017). But the situation has got completely reversed now. The current altcoin market capitalization is less than half of that of Bitcoin (the last time I checked coinmarketcap, the Bitcoin dominance was standing at 68.3%. It will leave around 26% to 27% for the altcoins, if we keep the stablecoins and Bitcoin forks separate from it.

Bitcoin cant survive without industry and all this merchants and industry cant survive without bitcoin. Thats true

industry and merchants is compose of people and btc will be nothing without people so  i fully agree with you but when you say that indstry cant survive without bitcoin ? no i dont agree with that  .
there are industry before and they are booming with only having fiat currencies and other payment methods . there are no bitcoins or cryptos before  but with the help of btc/cryptos  , the industry can grow more evenly which is good for the people  .

I think this is right. Bitcoin maybe the king of crypto as of now, but only time will tell what is it's future. I think bitcoin won't just die off, but eventually will come equal to others alts. I think it is wrong to say that alt coins are not the future, premium alts like ETH, BNB are really great and have a lot potential.

You're quite correct, Altcoins are now a way of life and even though bitcoin is the premier cryptocurrency, it is not the only one and would never be the only one,bitcoin introduced the technology so. It's only logical that there would be other Altcoins that would improve on the technology and they ain't going nowhere.

Altcoins can still be useful from time to time, I know that many people only see altcoins as a way to make money in the markets but altcoins serve another function as well and that is to allow us to test new ideas about how a cryptocurrency should perform, this is really important because it allows us to see if we can find a way to better implement a blockchain that is faster, more secure and easier to use without having to modify the code of bitcoin.

Yes you are in part right, but I personally believe in a time of crisis when all alts are going down, it is bettere to just buy and save some BTC becasue, you will have a better chance with BTC than with any other coin. Yes, alts, do hold their place in the crypto world, and they may one day compete with BTC, but right now BTC is the king and your are far safe with this than with any other coin.

There are so many altcoins that had potential in future. but for me still bitcoin will be more potential and no one can surpass it as long as no other very useful altcoins or own crypto currency by government. because as of now bitcoin is still have the huge price over thousand of dollar. and I think non of this altcoins can reach that amount. for sure a lot will be happen in the next hour, day or month. so we used to do now is to learn more accumulate more knowledge and skill so we can keep up with the new trend.

bitcoin maximalist may not understand how much they need altcoin, asides the use of bitcoin as asset because of its volatility, it a good choice for altcoin exchange and this generate a lot of volume trade for the coin daily. I sometimes wonder how most of the chart prediction of bitcoin get the currency value if there was not altcoin fund. I dont know how money could have flown into bitcoin to attain such a price if not altcoin, any ways those prediction came after last bullrun that gave 20x in a year

Even if government create their own coin I think they will not still able to replace Bitcoin due to the fact that the coin will be created by them is not decentralized. Besides, Bitcoin is way more better to other altcoins for now due to the volume it have. Regarding if Bitcoin will able to stand alone, I think it will however, it will not be as great as it is now because altcoins have huge contribution in growth of Bitcoin.

The only thing that Bitcoin has today is really a very large capitalization and trading volume of the total cryptocurrency market.  Maybe I don’t understand much, but Bitcoin is still only a very profitable asset that will make a profit due to its volatility.  If Bitcoin's scalability is improved, then it will increase its chances of survival, and maybe they will more actively attract Bitcoin as a means of payment.  But until then, the situation has been mixed.

you can’t be sure of the altcoin if it even enters in the top 10. large-capitalization does not guarantee that this coin will remain in this market and survive, and therefore you should always know what is happening inside the project

I believe Bitcoin can survive for long time without any other alternate cryptocurrencies. It happened and that is the reason we are here with these much amount of cryptocurrencies in the marketplace.
If there is no Bitcoin these things might not happened and we need to think in that way only.
Then we people need to check out the volume and circulation of other coins with Bitcoins to compare yourself.

Why do you think that? Why can't Bitcoin live without altcoins? When bitcoin appeared, there wasn't any altcoin. This should not be overlooked.

I think Bitcoin can survive alone. But I can't say the same thing about altcoins. If Bitcoin doesn't survive, make sure there's no altcoin left.

Like I always say, to survive in this space, you have to ignore what people say and DYOR and when you are convinced about any coin you have invested in, stick to your guns and don't let another person's opinion sway you, ofcourse bitcoin has done well but some Altcoins are doing better and I believe that it's an Altcoin that would eventually lead to mainstream cryptocurrency adoption.

Only if lots of country have their own stablecoin paired with Bitcoin. Yes, then some altcoins will be useless since people from their country can monetize or trade btc with their own money. That's is actually the efficient part on btc, which altcoin can match up but still far from it. I like altcoins cause they are useful but on global economic scale, btc no doubt will out run them.

I agree that bitcoin cannot dominate the cryptocurrency market alone. Investors will not risk their funds only for bitcoin and they need alternative investments to reduce the risk of one of which is altcoin. It's true that if we already have a solid altcoin in terms of liquidity and also products, I think we can hold it for the long term

added it could be a way for crypto to get space in the world online as a new payment method. after that crypto will be more easily accepted. In addition, another benefit is crypto that can survive and also improve the quality or excess of the product in the market and also the real product can work well.

Bitcoin doesn't need altcoin to survive, bitcoin has been in existence before the creation of altcoin. Almost all altcoin needs bitcoin to survive presently. Altcoin price keeps decreasing and some are turning to shitcoin while bitcoin keeps staying at the top. Bitcoin is a well known cryptocurrency that attracts big investors globally without the help of altcoin. Altcoin is known today is because of bitcoin existence

crypto already get space in the world online as new payment method at several merchants, maybe it has not yet become a mass payment but crypto already has its own market. I see there are already several token projects that aim to be payment options and work normally and still survived until now, example Pundi X.

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Although bitcoin can survive on its own but altcoin still contributes greatly in the crypto world, at least 33% in coinmarketcap are transactions conducted by altcoin.

that's because bitcoin is one of the biggest coins among other cryptoqurrency, bitcoin always dominates the crypto market and becomes a profitable investment in every period. As you can see when the price of bitcoin exploded in 2017, many investors have just started to take part in investments there until now, so I think bitcoin is a profitable investment and altcoin is an alternative investment besides bitcoin.

Bitcoin enthusiasts (I am one of them) tend to forget one very important fact... Bitcoin does not have the scalability for massive worldwide adoption considering the fact that it can only handle about 7 TPS (Transactions Per Second) last time I checked, so anybody saying that bitcoin can survive alone is basically saying that Cryptocurrencies would never achieve worldwide adoption, as much as it pains me to say, Altcoins are likely what would help us achieve that and we have to be open minded, this doesn't mean that you should invest in every shitcoin out there, DYOR and be very careful to avoid loses.

What is a solid altcoin? Pls name one, and we dont talk about centralized coins like ETH, EOS, BCH, TRX etc, those do not count.

Maybe that is true because any other cryptocurrency have different platforms and blockchain technology that has different use and help. So I think the subject is somehow correct. The more project that succeeds the more help and innovation in different kinds of use. Just like the transaction, there are lots of projects that are making their system or device if they have one faster and secure. They have also different features depending on the focus of their project. Every project have their focus on what they want to innovate either the transaction or wallets and any other platform that they can innovate using their blockchain technology.

Absolutely yes, Bitcoin cannot handle the numbers of it.lovers if it was to be use for payment platform by those who love it existence. Bitcoin is been celebrated because of it case use and being the first survival digital currency. The issue here is that, people are scared of holding the coin for a longer period because of it volatility. Altcoins are also another means to have the future if they'd choose wisely among the rest. Bitcoin cannot live alone, survive alone it need altcoins.

Yes, Bitcoin is independent, it can stand on its own, although Altcoins plays a big role in the crypto world, it's a big help in the world, as Bitcoin becomes more famous because of altcoins.

But for 11 years, despite of thousands of crypto in the world, still Bitcoin remains the king and number on in the crypto world.

in my opinion what the OP says is aimed at the Bitcoin market sector. Yes, obviously it's difficult to compete with this biggest coin, after all, for the problem of bitcoin payment is superior in my opinion, because it is very easy, safe and reliable. but people are more focused as an investment business in the crypto world. altcoin is a sector to make bitcoin grow even bigger as we know it today. there are many other platforms to support bitcoin, so it is appropriate that bitcoin cannot live alone or need a supporting sector.

Bitcoin can't survive alone. Just as USD or EURO, they work together for the stability of the financial market. This brings about competition. This Since the estimation of every currency depends on their financial quality. Currency is exchanged between people, if Bitcoin is the only crypto, it will make it be in more request (expanding its worth) than another. But the presence of Alts aids the fluctuation of Bitcoin thereby spreading the worth among other currencies.

Few years after the launch of cryptocurrency, the second coin I ran was also launched. This was done because there was need for it. Had it been it was not need, then it would not have been accepted. This even came alongside with fundraising and subsequently, other altcoins were launched and gradually, cryptocurrency started becoming more popular.
So, one of the main reasons might be its popularity.

thats right, and the OP was right with his opinion if bitcion can't survive alone
bitcoin need alts, and altcoin born because of bitcoin
i think this is very good relationship between bitcoin and altcoin, except shitcoins  ;)

I think it's very difficult, which one do you mean altcoin solid? Stable coins like USDT, USDC, PAX, etc. or like ETHEREUM, BNB, LTC, etc. for a stable coin, I still have hope, if one day it will be used officially. but for other altcoins, I doubt it. the reason is like bitcoin (anonymous, personal, decentralized, no middle man) and the main thing is the fluctuation of altcoin is 2-5x from Bitcoin. so the state won't allow that.

Wrong

It can survive alone, it's the altcoin that cannot survive alone, the Bitcoin dominance is eating all the altcoins in the market. but I love to see some altcoins surviving alongside Bitcoin, some of the altcoins I like surviving are Ethereum, Eos, Binance, Dogecoin I don't like to include those Bitcoin forks to survive.

You don't think people don't already use bitcoin with wepay and alipay? Now that china has banned bitcoin trading on exchanges with yuan, all of the trading volume has gone online underground, via groups who encourage people to just buy and sell directly to each other. Trust me, they are doing it, and paying with every possible method out there;)

Despite the fact that most of altcoins is still heavily dependent on bitcoin's price movement doesn't mean that the altcoin could not survive alone. maybe if bitcoin is gone the altcoin will adapt to the circumstance, you need to consider the fact that there's stablecoin aswell. Also, Bitcoin could survive even without alts and it's already proven since the first emergence of bitcoin and there's no denying to that. It is just the market is not healthier since the market capital will probably become far smaller than it is now.

So far altcoin has a low level of trust from investors so, it is very possible if someday altcoin will experience a weakening price that can even reach $0 and this is caused by altcoin developers themselves who indeed implement a lot of ICO is only for the action of raising money and not developing altcoin This is true, so it makes investors very fraid to invest in various altcoins, in contrast to bitcoin, although it often experiences a price fall and then re-experiences a price revival, moreover institutional investors' interest is higher and makes the price of Bitcoin will continue to surge, so that this possible if bitcoin will can survive without altcoin.

far this altcoin is still dependent on bitcoin in my opinion. because if you look at price movements, when the bitcoin pump altcoin starts the pump too. but if in the perspective of the market, altcoin it becomes one of the choices for traders. with many altcoins that can make trading more attractive to the public

as you have said that almost 2 altcoin seasons have lost their value, a weak market situation can also affect the price of altcoin including bitcoin. as a wise investor take 2 good choices, between bitcoin investments and also some altcoin that has further price developments

not depending actually, it would be more appropriate if bitcoin influences the altcoin market. not dependency because there is altcoin that can do their pumps. but the effects of bitcoin price movements can make the altcoin market follow the move of bitcoin. but the function of altcoin is indeed very influential in trading and increasing bitcoin adoption in the market. when trading on the market increases, the value of bitcoin will get better with an altcoin exchange rate that increases.

This is the biggest truth of crypto coins’ world that all the altcoins highly depend on bitcoin for their performance and progress. If bitcoin is not going bullish, it is impossible for even the king of altcoins to prosper. People who understand this much are not losing faith in altcoins. The investors of crypto currencies must keep themselves prepare for all sort of situations and make bitcoin their priority.

altcoin could have gone up with the efforts of the pump they made themselves from a planned update that made altcoin requests increase. but without the support of bitcoin on the market, it will not last long and most likely will not get the maximum pump and then go down quickly.
although the price correction is reasonable, if bitcoin can increase and be stable I think altcoin can make price-stable after the pump is done.

I also know about your advice, like (removing altcoin for bitcoin) actually it's not a bad idea because we know that bitcoin always dominates the crypto market and is highly recommended for investment. but I personally have high potential altcoin such as ETH, BNB, EOS & LTC. so I will not sell it, because before investing in altcoin above, I already have a BTC investment first.

Bitcoin is the best choice it has so many benefits and we should invest our money in bitcoin it’s really reliable. In the case of investing in more than one coin, I like to buy ETH as it’s really good and having a good future almost the same as bitcoin. But sometimes  I buy bitcoin only but I never felt unsafe to invest in bitcoin and buying any other coin with it is totally optional for me.

It's true that Bitcoin is still struggling for the survival purpose, I think it's not easy to make established without the legal status, another important thing is that the government's approval When your government doesn't approve your project then definitely the worth value will decrease towards people. so it's very difficult to stay alone in this system because there are a lot of cryptocurrencies in here, I think Bitcoin and another cryptocurrency will get approved within very soon and then cryptocurrency platform will be the most used currency for the payment method, So those days are not so long.

Doing your own research should be the minimum standard when it comes to deciding if we invest in a coin or not but as you may guess that is not the case and many decide to invest in coins based on what they read on social media, however I do no agree when you say that an altcoin is going to be responsible for the mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies, if you were to ask a person outside of this forum for the name of a cryptocurrency I can assure you that almost 100% of them will answer bitcoin.

Many support that altcoin is the only crypto currency that is independent from the first time it was created until now, while solid altcoin is the best only crypto pumper and has done many things for bitcoin and crypto so it always gives the best starting from ico paltform until the trade, bitcoin is currently still in further development to be able to survive and want to be supported globally all developed countries

Bitcoin does not need the help of altcoins because the coin is always very valuable in this market and any investor will have to buy Bitcoin when participating. I think Bitcoin's dominance will continue for several more years and altcoins will not have a chance to compete with Bitcoin during this time. In my opinion, appropriate capital allocation for investment and BTC should always be the most holding coin in this market.

yes you are right, bitcoin dominance will continue and altcoin will never be able to replace or compete with bitcoin dominance in the cryptoqurrency market. but the fact is bitcoin can live alone, it's just that the presence of altcoin can offset the price of bitcoin and nothing more than that.

Bitcoin needs altcoins but it has nothing to do with the price it has to do with the technology, at the beginning bitcoin was an experimental technology but since then it has become incredibly valuable, the developers working on bitcoin cannot take any chances now because if they do and their ideas are mistaken then bitcoin could fail and the whole market will fail with it, bitcoin needs altcoins to take risks and test new ideas and see if they work and any altcoin not doing that is not good at all.

Bitcoin has always been the king of cryptocurrencies. But Bitcoin cannot stand alone because the cryptocurrency market needs competition, then the platforms make sense. If Bitcoin stood alone, it would be worthless.

Bitcoin should survive alone, bitcoin have more potential, recognition, acceptance and much awareness than other cryptocurrency, hands holding bitcoins are top notch people and world wide it is being speak about so with or without market I guess bitcoin would be able to stand firm and survive without any attachment of whatever. And also with time more people will buy bitcoin as some government like China are speaking good about bitcoin.

Bitcoin has a very good role in our lives and can exist alone without other help. In fact, this coin has never disappointed investors because the benefits of this coin bring us too much and anyone participating in this market will choose Bitcoin first. The future of Bitcoin is predicted to grow very high and I believe that legalizing this market will only be a matter of time.

Currently, China is planning to develop crypto and if it succeeds, this will be the biggest event for everyone. Of course we cannot use their coins but surely many other countries will start to create their own coins based on blockchain technology.

Bitcoin can survive alone because it has done this before when it was first created without any other cryptocurrency in existence. Altcoins will rather struggle if Bitcoin dies because Bitcoin is what the world looks up to in other to make general comments on the entire crypto space.

I think it's normal if most people suggest to sell altcoin and replace it with bitcoin. because bitcoin is the main currency in cryptocurrency. and bitcoin is also always a reference for altcoin. when bitcoin falls, some altcoin bears will also experience a decrease. if we have limited capital then I also recommend investing in bitcoin only. but if we have a lot of capital I think it's okay to try to invest in altcoin. and suggest investing in the top 10 altcoins of CMC. the existence of altcoin makes the crypto market bigger and crowded.

It can be argued that bitcoin will never die as there will always be some enthusiasts using it in the future even if its price crashed, however if bitcoin really died then altcoins will not struggle they will disappear, many altcoins despite their claims are for the most part copies of bitcoin with just a few changes so if the technology of bitcoin had some weakness then all coins will be susceptible to the same kind of attack that killed bitcoin and even the few that were not will die because they will lose all credibility.

Hold the topic of survival. Each coin will not be able to survive alone. Because with the other coins there will be comparators who are able to spur a competition that leads to progress in every circumstance. This will increase the value of them. As well as Bitcoin would be great if he were along with other coins. This introduces Bitcoin as a good coin compared to any other so much interest in Bitcoin for the future.

There are many altcoins that keep coming and bringing new ideas, to make it easier for everyone to make transactions around the world, I am impressed with the Bitcoin whitepaper and the idea continues to be developed by many people, so we can see Ethereum and many other altcoins that keep cryptocurrency alive to date.

The existence of altcoin enlivens cryptocurrency and makes many choices for investors to invest into coins that they think have the potential. For me personally bitcoin will still exist if there is no altcoin, but what will happen is the cryptocurrency market will be very quiet because we know bitcoin is limited and if there is no altcoin the market will be quiet and no one will put their money into cryptocurrency.

I really wish there is a way to know how many people inveated in bitcoin and altcoins altogether, bitcoin is the best but can only be used as store of value or means of payment, that's all there is, compare ETH to bitcoin you will know that bitcoin can't do its alone

You are comparing BTC to ETH

Alipay and wechatpay are mostly only used in China while Bitcoin is used by the whole world. Alipay and wechatpay are still controlled by the central bank because they are actually digital fiat money while Bitcoin is decentralized coins. For now, Bitcoin cannot be used in China due to a ban from the Chinese Government and hopefully in the next few years China is regulating it

Really, so why is BTC the only coin that is doing well? Everything is dropping hard and BTC is going to stay the most popular, the most expensive and the best crypto on the market for decades and further from now on.

Cryptocurrency may grow to the extent of being used by millions of people as a means of payment but its important to consider the fact that cryptocurrency has lost her reputation as a great medium for payment and would need the support of a vast amount of people to regain her place.

not only btc but there are other few alts that also work good too  .

btc is good but btc still miss something that people find on these altcoins  but btc is the most popular and most expensive coin till this date but i dont know if that will remain in the future or from forever  . one thing for sure is that bitcoin cant survive alone  . that is why alts are been created along with those erc20 tokens  to provide a support to btc so that btc can live  .

I think the opposite is true. if a person does not have a lot of money, then it is best for him to invest in altcoins rather than bitcoin. if you have 2 thousand dollars, then investing in good altcoins you can earn much more than investing in bitcoins. Bitcoin is good for saving huge capital

I think in order to use in payment, BTC is not a reasonable option. Currently BTC transaction fee, processing time and its volatility is very high, which mean we need another altcoin for this purpose. BTC is an option for asset storage.

to use bitcoin as a transaction may not be suitable at this time, because the process is quite long and the fee is quite large. it's good if you make transactions using stable coins and also look for coins that have a good speed to make transactions

But indirectly bitcoin is also influenced by altcoin which innovates in product development so that people get to know and more easily adopt cryptocurrency in life. That means more investors will come and be interested in joining. This becomes a kind of symbiotic mutualism, both of which influence each other on the positive side.

have you tried to use segwit? if you have not yet tried and i suggest you to try that asap. Stable coin is not so scalable as you said and doge is much better than it. But again, you should try to search the fact before you wanna try to say anything that you don't know about.

Yes because Bitcoin is made only as a means of payment, and there is no other development, while the Altcoin has a wide range of innovations, so it will continue to evolve, no matter as high as BTC price increase will surely no alt that follows.

There are wallets that will allow us to send BTC by just scanning QRcode, that should be enough to use BTC to pay, adoption however has to have many users over the world. China has many users that even beggars are asking money thru Wechat on the streets in China. We don't do that since not even half of the of 850M users in China are BTc users. Chinese also are one which they have channels of their own while the people outside are very much divided.

Telegram (TON) must have been a good for all.

If bitcoin is an island, island without a human is very lonely. It will survive but lonely. Same with bitcoin it will surely survive without anyone backing it, the proof is there, It still exists until now and no altcoin can beat its marketcap. But altcoin provides use cases specific to their uses and gives the blockchain world more interesting and colorful with bitcoin as inspiration.

I think bitcoin could survive on its own even if no other tokens are in the market bitcoin is still what it is today,
All of the altcoins in the market are just a copy of bitcoin and they wanted to replicate the success of bitcoin since in the past years it has a successful technology.
But still it is a unique algorithm and even if they create a token like bitcoin, bitcoin was still the first in this kind of digital currency and already established its market price.

altcoin seems to be a payment tool for their own specifications, while bitcoin is a global payment tool, which is familiar in the crypto world. so I think the two can support each other with their respective duties. here that establishes the belief in the product

I agree with you. Bitcoin can survive alone but it will be very difficult. Today some states are not loyal to bitcoin but they are loyal to various other cryptocurrencies. For example, he was recently influenced by two large transfers of Tether (USDT) in the amount of $ 84 million to the OKEx exchange.

It will continue to survive but not like this where many other people gain interest with how the setup take place. Bitcoin have it's own way to attract
people and potential investors, no matter how market moves bitcoin still moving forward. There's no way to say that it can't survive alone since many
bitcoin is the first thing in mind of those people around crypto business.

I do agree because in the crypto community we are all up to, there are lots of existing Alternative coins that are really promising and do have potential to rise and give us benefits which is the same thing Bitcoin can do give to us. We must not be just dependent into one because we all know that everytime, everyday and every single moment, there could be a possibility that a certain Altcoin can do provide potential benefits for us crypto users. We must not have a mindset that we should dispose Altcoins in exchange of Bitcoin because both are beneficial and useful for all of us. We should be open into possibilities that we can also earn from Altcoins and not just by Bitcoin alone.

Bitcoin can't survive alone but the thousands of altcoins are hurting crypto. It makes it difficult for people to fully understand and also reduces ease of use. When you talk about alipay, it is one single payment solution and not part of thousands of almost or same tech.

Hold the topic of survival. Each coin will not be able to survive alone. Because with the other coins there will be comparators who are able to spur a competition that leads to progress in every circumstance. This will increase the value of them. As well as Bitcoin would be great if he were along with other coins. This introduces Bitcoin as a good coin compared to any other so much interest in Bitcoin for the future.

On this I think a little different. Bitcoin exists in the world for more than 10 years. I think he's proven himself now. Those who want to make money from Bitcoin see today's bitcoin price insufficient. Shall we be realistic? Bitcoin increased from $ 1 to $ 19,000.

I also believe that bitcoin alone can not cope. He became the founder and proved to us that cryptocurrencies and blockchain are a great sphere of life. New altcoins solve the problems and therefore we cant do without them.

You said all the facts but one of the issues is, many altcoins are even yet to achieve what they are set to fulfill, so how can such coins compete with already built platforms like wepay? This is one of the problems this space is facing and until it is tackled there will always be limitations. There are many altcoins still trying to break boundaries but they need to do more, if beating these platforms will ever work out. On the other hand, only few of these altcoins are good for holding and just like you stated, real life working products should be the main focus. Lastly, Bitcoin can't do it alone, it needs other coins.

I agree with your opinion about the future of cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin will not be alone, there will be some projects apart from BTC with real use cases, but still Bitcoin will stay top 1 crypto in the world.

I know all coins are directly or indirectly connected with each other and they need mutual support to rise or survival. It is no doubt a fact that bitcoin is more valuable than other coins and it has more people to like it. It is famous and independent to grow so we should believe that bitcoin will never die and it will be stronger than this in future.

I totally agree with you. Bitcoin plays a vital role on Cryptocurrency in every transaction but it needs support from Altcoins. Altcoins also gives a good option in diversifying your money in terms of investment. Putting your money on a single basket is not really a good idea. In terms of trading coins, some altcoins really makes Bitcoin norr profitable and vice versa.

I think you are right bitcoin cannot survive without other any major coins or altcoins because they need each other to be able to run the blockchain technology and there some features of platforms that rely in Bitcoin and vice versa.

The interrelationships that make up to now are still moving, although not improved until now. Don't be quick to give up on what is happening right now because a lot of new things will emerge next year. hopefully that will shed some light on everyone.

You must not look at Bitcoin as just payment processor. Bitcoin is more of a stablecoin for every other crypto asset. It wont make much sense right now but once you really start seeing Bitcoin for what it is.... Fiat and payment systems are 1 dimensional 1+1=2. Very analog solution in a digital society  . Bitcoin operates in the first,second,third and fourth dimension of economics

As much as we issue full support, the more we are able to achieve more profit. The estimated price will also surge with strong increased support. Bitcoin stock price will continue to burn like a fire. This makes Bitcoin able to continue fighting against flowing flows. Bitcoin will not be able to survive without any support behind it. So support is also instrumental in the future of the fresh Bitcoin.

altcoins now should not only be a tool of diversification for investors, but they should also support the technological development of the market that will help achieve the mass adoption of cryptocurrencies in the world

difficult for new altcoins to mass adoption, you can see there are more than 4900 coins or tokens listed out there, maybe that can be used as bulk adoption maybe only coins or tokens that are good, like ethereum, waves, neo, eos, if for binance I think they have proven

If they develop something crypto in my opinion the price or price increase is greatly influenced by everyone here. You can see how many junk coins are stacked in the purses of people who play in the crypto world.

   Pantek Talacuik you are responsible for your portfolio, if you are choosing wisely coins you invest in, your portfolio will be without
junk-coins! It's the same for all others. Junk-coins will go to zero, the ones that worth now will worth more in the future.
   I think Bitcoin and alt-coins created crypto-ecosystem. I think it would be a problem for us if we would have to use only Bitcoin,
or to use just alt-coins and not Bitcoin. It's not the point in surviving alone, it never was. Point is in creating ecosystem that will
work for all the people in the world, Bitcoin together with alt-coins is doing that.

Bitcoin is not alone. There are many projects that want to accompany Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the cornerstone of this economy. The most important piece is bitcoin. Blockchain became widespread today. Bitcoin and blockchain grew together. The physical money is coming to an end.

I think, government has control over alipay or wepay payment. If Bitcoin takes this process than government can't control it. China government can't accept any payment process where they have no control. Although cryptocurrency is banned in China.

There should be more projects that support crypto as their main form of payment. When large retailers accept BTC and also altcoins as a form of payment and not just to dump it and transform it to fiat then the momentum for BTC and all altcoins will increase a lot.

The new coins that keep on releasing every other day hardly effect the old coins and investors. People who have been in the market for long or truly understand the concept of crypto coins, definitely cherish bitcoin regardless of what altcoins are doing. It is bitcoin on which the whole digital market depends. Those holders who choose new coins over old ones always end up in regrets.

I once did the same thing by believing in some Altcoins that grew last year but with 2019 like this it keeps bad things going and seeing coins that I expect to be worthless.

So many time it use to happen and we will have to face it because else we have nothing as we know rise and fall both are part of crypto investment and we should believe in ourselves. Bitcoin is my only priority to invest in and I hope for the best always so if it falls i Know it will again rise and will make profit for me so I never lost my trust on abilities of bitcoin.

can or does not survive alone i think it all depends on the adoption and support, when adoption continues to be done and of course support continues to be done for the growth of bitcoin that can be used and also beneficial for many things, so i think bitcoin can still survive but with the growth of the industry this continues to improve so at least bitcoin and other crypto will at least continue to strive to be the best and will surely survive for a long time

Since the adoption of altcoin, the growth of crypto world is increasing, but in retrospect the current market conditions already need each other bitcoin or altcoin already have their respective users but so far in fact altcoin is more dependent on bitcoin movements

rarely does anyone hold one bitcoin, often everyone shares their portfolio in several parts, and bitcoin takes 20-30% in it. If he is there at all. I have seen many times that people trust altcoins more, in that altcoins can make larger Xs in growth than bitcoin. And you can focus on it, rise-fall, to compare with the behavior of your altcoins

That is because the crypto field has been divided into bitcoin and altcoin. then people have choices about their respective portfolios, now bitcoin and altcoin are already part of the crypto market and I think both have different roles in meeting market needs

It's not a tool to be used for diversification but about the technological development some altcoins have been doing it and it's still continue and you can take ethereum, credits, tron or even eos as example.
The majority of the altcoins are being used for speculation. Only the long term investor that used it as diversification.

altcoin can indeed make us rich faster now, if you buy Waves, Tomo, and INS you will get almost 100% profit, this is what traders and investors like, but the high dominance indicates that traders still hold large amounts of bitcoin

Please understand that nothing can exist alone. Everything has 2 sides and so does bitcoin

Yes, and altcoin investment is also the fastest way to get you to zero, altcoin investment is a very dangerous investment because the price of altcoin can rise and fall at any time. A few days ago I saw the collapse of Matic in just a few hours and thousands of other altcoins have collapsed 10-100 times in 2019, Don't be too greedy when you choose to invest altcoin. 95% of altcoin investors in 2019 are at a loss and the number of altcoin collapses will surely increase in the near future

Bitcoin can survive alone. Just like gold if the demand will be be going up then it there's no reason for it not to survive amd now. There are so many altcoins floating in the market we accept it or not that is how reality is going on. Bitcoin will still survive and can survive alone in the long run.

Bitcoin has already experienced several crises in its short life, which means it has become even stronger. All other cryptocurrencies depend on bitcoin and are exchanged for it - this is the core in the construction of cryptocurrencies.

But how or what if no one would use it and then there are some good generation of money that are better than bitcoin? How do the bitcoin will survive alone?

Sometimes even if it is strong we can't say that it would be still here forever because there's a time that the coin would be ruin.

Well we can't say that but its possible, for now while no other created a bitcoin like ledger but who knows. Because of the advance technology. I still believe bitcoin is the best invention of digital currency that we are having right now. I might prepare in the future if other inventions comes along the market that might beat bitcoin.

for me bitcoin is the biggest invention in solving transaction problems. and although there is currently a fair amount of market competition between bitcoin and altcoin, the market is currently still siding with bitcoin and altcoin, which is currently still dependent on bitcoin price movements

It can survive this is what I believe after ten years and with big gap in dominance, Bitcoin is doing great at this point of time, it's the altcoins that cannot survive without Bitcoin, but it's better that there are altcoins around that has different features, it can serve other industries with their features and of course, we, investors like to have a lot of choices and options when investing.

you correctly say that altcoins cannot survive without bitcoin, but it is also true that bitcoin cannot survive without altcoins. think a little bit about what will happen to the market if all altcoins will die? people will simply no longer be interested in the cryptocurrency market and very few people will remain on it, and then only a very small number of people will also need bitcoin

It can survive if in future people will use only bitcoin for what all they need to do, to buy all they need and many other things but all depends if this will happen, but anyway survive already is the most know crypto on earth and will continue survive.

Bitcoin can it has proven history of it as there was nothing else first few years, BTC can’t survive alone it needs at absolute minimum LNX altcoin.

And there will be a time that most of the altcoins will get eliminated to remain the coins that has the strongest hold by the people. But what do you mean by it needs that altcoin? I thought that you're in favor of saying that bitcoin can survive on its own but why tell that it has to be with a minimum of that kind of altcoin? there will be an altcoin to survive but it will never kick out bitcoin at its place and even there's none, bitcoin alone can make itself go on.

I don't think Bitcoin can survive alone, we can see the price movement gone high fast when alternative cryptocurrency makes movements in the market.
As per gold, it never stands alone as it always has its price in FIAT. There are some precious stones with it also like silver and diamonds.
Things and materials has equal value on the other side, there is no island in this world alone.

Some many people still don't know what is the alipay or wepay. Banned list of cryptocurrency China is the one. How do you pay Bitcoin as payment methods but still Bitcoin is survive without this payment methods. Bitcoin is using in different payment methods online and real use cases.

Bit coins are called the father coins of all coins, but it is worth noting that the contribution of Ethereum or other coins to the Kiptro world is no less.I think Alter Coin e made bitcoin popular. Altair coins have contributed greatly to the popularity of Bitcoin.

because bitcoin is the first digital currency the focus is only as a means of payment.
while altcoin has the development and innovation of each, ETH with XLM smartcontract with low send speed and fee and many more.
but not all altcoin is good, most of them are rubbish.
so you have to choose a good one and have a clear roadmap.

It's true that bitcoin can't survive alone because it requires the presence of fiat, how do we buy bitcoin if without fiat. Then from that
exchanges with fiat pairs are more in demand. Even exchanges as large as binance present fiat pairs from several countries, then roles
altcoins for bitcoin are big enough in my opinion. Because altcoins can be a magnet for the advancement of the cryptocurrency world,
without altcoins cryptocurrency growth will not be as fast as it is today. With altcoins can make the trading world come alive, because of
the many coins for trading options. Not to mention that with altcoins there are many opportunities to make money through the ICO / IEO
project. So from altcoins can attract many investors to the world of cryptocurrency, if many investors are attracted to the world of crypto
currency the impact on bitcoin is very good. Because bitcoin pairs are the most popular in trading.

Another one who does not understand Bitcoin and thinks its some kind of magic gambling thing.
Bitcoin is something to earn use receive spend send.... fees on BTC prohibit real world usage other than trading on unnecessary exchanges.

Price of Bitcoin is what drives the crypto market. I would say bitcoin is not heavily relied on altcoins like altcoins are dependent on bitcoin. Whenever we see bitcoin going up we see altcoins also going up but inverse is not true. There is no altcoin till date whose value has affected bitcoin in any way.

I dont disagree with the fact that altcoins dont have a use case. Many do have a use case. But price is decided by trading volumes and traders. When it comes to trading, market isn't really active atm. Even bitcoin is struggling with the volume. But just because bitcoin is the most trusted among the traders when it comes to crypto, it gets the most of the trading volume which keeps the price movement active.

Altcoins aren't getting much of the traction lately. So simply holding them won't be a good option. That is why people are asking others to shift to bitcoin until altcoins show some movement.

Its economy, there cant be just one currency, just one market. Beauty of crypto is connection between coins and tokens, and simplicity in making transactions, storing, and swapping coins/tokens. Its pointless to talk about can bitcoin survive alone or it cant, we cant deny existence of all other alts.
Bitcoin and other alts rise in price as demand rise and cash inflow. Bitcoin is the most favorite coin, and like that mostly people invest in trade with bitcoin, of course that bitcoin price will rise first, and when people finish with bitcoin they turn to alts, they always comes second.

This statement is not true because Bitcoin has gained it's own value because of it's unique features. In the long run the cryptocurrency will go vanish because of high speculation in this field because of the no regulation yet. So, Only Bitcoin and the first runner in the altcoins sectors will go long.

Bitcoin started it all,  but lets admit that bitcoin cant do anything,  there are altcoin use that bitcoin cant do,  it depends on what the developer's decision.

Even though bitcoin was the beginning of cryptocurrency , now lot of trusted cryptocurrency get into the market. Eth is the the one among them. Altcoin was became a important one now. Because it's less expensive then bitcoin and you can hold huge amount of altcoin for less amount of dollars.

Many investors including myself prefer to invest in altcoin because they are still very cheap and i can get many bags as i want, many investors are into altcoins because they have missed the bitcoin opportunity, now not everyone can afford a single bitcoin and they see opportunity in other coins

We are on the opposite side, the majority of my investment is in bitcoin and that is the top of my priorities. Altcoins also may good but those altcoins that have the potential to invest like the top 20 ranking altcoins in Coins Market Cap. Bitcoin will stand alone and that's is the reason why until now Bitcoin has existed and it becomes in the mainstream not just simple altcoins. Bitcoin will survive no matter there is no altcoins behind and believed if altcoins can't survive without bitcoin.

If we can invest in bitcoin and atlcoin why not. Every person must have a bad experience about what they never had before as a failure to invest into bitcoin and then he got a loss and do not want to invest into it again. But for me personally, both bitcoin and altcoin can both generate profits if we can find the right opportunity and determine the right time to buy and sell it.

Whatever can happen to us, from altcoin we can only get profits and can also experience failure which subsequently results in losses. 2019 is indeed an unprofitable year in my opinion because many coin prices fall and fall again but not all coins experience the same thing, some coins can still generate profits and profits or losses that we will get later depending on how we take or look for opportunities on a coin.

basically investing in altcoin or bitcoin is an option when investing, and certainly provides experience to these investors. and so far after altcoin has been around for quite a long time, both bitcoin and altcoin have been integrated with each other in the market and i think they both meet the needs of the people out there