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Title: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on March 26, 2023, 11:43:02 AM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?

https://i.imgur.com/7hR5Dpz.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Botnake on March 26, 2023, 11:49:00 AM
This may not be an exciting fight, but at least we'll get to see Casimero in action again. By keeping himself active, he'll be ready for bigger fights in the future. Although his opponent's record isn't scary, Casimero still needs to work hard in training and should not underestimate him. As we all know, upsets can happen anytime in boxing.

Hopefully, his next fight will be a championship fight. Let's watch this!

By the way, where will this fight be held?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Russlenat on March 26, 2023, 11:58:57 AM
Something is better than nothing, and it's still early, so if Casimero wins this fight, we can expect to see him fight again later this year. While Inoue is recovering from an injury, Casimero is challenging himself by staying active in the ring. This is a good sign that he will be successful in the new division. To reach his goals, he needs to be consistent in winning.

I'll search for some highlights of Nghitumbwa on YouTube since he is an unknown fighter to me.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: yazher on March 26, 2023, 12:48:40 PM
I hope he won't be cheated again this time because this game seems to become hated in the boxing industry because of his way of promoting himself. His last fight was a huge joke and it was really a misfortune for him to not finish that fight in TKO because he was clearly winning the fight but the Japanese know how to act as if he was hurt.

I think this time he needs more focus to finish this opponent so that it will become his ticket to take a more serious fighter in this weight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: bittraffic on March 26, 2023, 04:57:05 PM

Crazy match for a Global super bantamweight title. Nghitumbwa only have 13 fights compare to Casimero who has 36 fights and its already a defending champ for quite some time.

I watched several fights of the two just on youtube, this is really a mismatch fight. Nghitumbwa has the habit to drop his hands, he really will end up lying on the ground. While both are aggressive fighter, Casimero is more experienced and can just absorb whatever Nghitumbwa throws.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: kenshi222 on March 26, 2023, 06:24:16 PM
It was welcome one for the people long weighted for the Global Super Bantamweight Title.The matches had a unique people for the competition and it was different one from expected.My support will goes to Casimero,I had seen some matches on the social media like YouTube and twitter of their old matches.When people try to support the Nghitumbwa,they should look of the Casimero matches.Because he had huge hand power to Knock out the big player in a short period of time.Casimero was the experienced player of this two players,we had forgotten about the experience of the Casimero before make your bet on the less experienced Nghitumbwa.

Casimero will be the best option to bet your money unless he get retired from the league,the experience player will have huge experience to behave in all time of matches on particular day.Nghitumbwa experience was very low compared to the Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 26, 2023, 08:08:00 PM
As a fan of Casimero, I'm disappointed that he will be fighting an unknown boxer next. His first fight in this division is not so good and then they are looking for some challenge and this is what they got for him?

In any case, yeah, a fight is still a fight. Hopefully, he will be impressive here and make a statement win and show that he still got it so that he will get the respect the deserves and fight for a world title or at least a solid opponent next.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Jating on March 26, 2023, 08:11:03 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

Yes, looking at this records, it's not that impressive.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

This could be the main reason why they pick Nghitumbwa in a very short notice. The fight will be in Casimero's backyard, so they have to find someone who Casimero can handle as a tune up fight and should not be a risk on him.

What do you guys think of this fight?

Casimero by a brutal knockout.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Kemarit on March 26, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
So in just over 4 weeks, we will finally see Casimero again. It's good tune up fight for him, I think this is what they are aiming here right now, Casimero fighting no one, gain back his confidence and put a W in his column again.

I guess everyone is still waiting or the Inoue vs Fulton fight, and it's because it was postponed, Casimero choose an easy get busy fight against Nghitumbwa.

And most likely if he win this fight, he will have another fight late this year but this time, it could be some name fighters and it might be held in the US.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: TimeTeller on March 26, 2023, 08:18:34 PM
So in just over 4 weeks, we will finally see Casimero again. It's good tune up fight for him, I think this is what they are aiming here right now, Casimero fighting no one, gain back his confidence and put a W in his column again.

I guess everyone is still waiting or the Inoue vs Fulton fight, and it's because it was postponed, Casimero choose an easy get busy fight against Nghitumbwa.

And most likely if he win this fight, he will have another fight late this year but this time, it could be some name fighters and it might be held in the US.

It is a tune up fight for Casimero, so hopefully, he would not mess this one again.
It may seem a walk in the park but if he won't prepare for this fight, and just take it for granted,
his opponent may see this as a challenge and sincerely prepare for this upcoming fight.
Even if his opponent has no name yet, it will be his motivation to beat Casimero even if Casimero is in his home turf.
The bookies may list this a week before the fight as there's no belt on the line, and seems a small time boxing event.
This may be a determining fight for Casimero where he is now in terms of how prepared he is to face with much bigger names in his weight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on March 26, 2023, 08:56:41 PM
Could be a dangerous fight if you are fighting an unknown fighter with an impressive 84% knock-out ratio, I checked his fights on Youtube he is an aggressive fighter who loves to engage so we will have a good fight come May 3.
Casimero loves a fighter who moves forward because he can counter punches he has excellent timing against an aggressive fighter I expect slugfest for this fight if  Nghitumbwa comes to fight because we all know Casimero also loves to slug it out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: lionheart78 on March 26, 2023, 09:15:52 PM

What do you guys think of this fight?


According to the report of this video[1] Casimero thinks that he can knock out the guy in within 3 rounds.  The guy had never fought outside his country and the quality of the guy's isn't as good as other opponents of Casimero.  Even though Nghitumbwa won 11 of his 12 wins via stoppage but the quality of his opponent is questionable.

So I think this will be a walk in the park for Casimero unless Casimero becomes careless and overconfident.  We all know upset often happens in boxing.

On the other side if I am wrong in my assumption and Nghitumbwa is really a good fighter, beating Casimero can give him a good break in his career.  With 11 wins of 12 via KO, we cannot remove the possibility of Casimero kissing the canvas.  So the chance of an upset result is somehow high, IMHO.




[1] https://youtu.be/Y3J8NzZaWJQ?t=39


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: crzy on March 26, 2023, 09:21:52 PM
Its good to know Casimero will have his match in the Philippines and I think this could be a good opportunity for him to go back in a win column. Though I don’t see this as an easy match between this two boxer since his opponent also have a good record of KO despite of being unpopular, maybe be is also taking advantage of this so he can be know worldwide. Exciting match for Casimero, will surely place a bet to him in support to this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on March 26, 2023, 09:32:54 PM
This may not be an exciting fight, but at least we'll get to see Casimero in action again. By keeping himself active, he'll be ready for bigger fights in the future. Although his opponent's record isn't scary, Casimero still needs to work hard in training and should not underestimate him. As we all know, upsets can happen anytime in boxing.

Hopefully, his next fight will be a championship fight. Let's watch this!

By the way, where will this fight be held?

Okada in the Philippines, a hotel casino, been there and played some, but to be honest, I'm not feeling that casino.

Anyhow, going back to the fight, yes, as what we have thought, this is a tune up fight for Casimero to fight someone with the record of Nghitumbwa. But I do agree that he shouldn't take this fight lightly and be overconfident. And we wanted to see that brandish style of his again, willing to go toe to toe if needed just to get that huge knockout win.

And just for the record, Casimero is now being handled by Treasure Boxing Promotion a Japanese based boxing company.

https://i.imgur.com/8XWQQgY.png

https://twitter.com/TB_PROMOTION/status/1639854524285468674


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: robelneo on March 26, 2023, 10:35:29 PM
After Akaho an unknown fighter coming from Namibia is his next opponent Nghitumbwa only has one fight uploaded on Youtube and based on what I see Casimero can take and knock this guy out even though the guy suffered his first loss six years ago, checking his record all his fights are on Africa so this will be his toughest fight, Duke Micah or Tete are far better fighter than Nghitumbwa, even though this is may look like a cherry-picked fight Casimero should not be complacent and must show an impressive performance so he can get a title shot again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: serjent05 on March 26, 2023, 10:52:06 PM
After Akaho an unknown fighter coming from Namibia is his next opponent Nghitumbwa only has one fight uploaded on Youtube and based on what I see Casimero can take and knock this guy out even though the guy suffered his first loss six years ago, checking his record all his fights are on Africa so this will be his toughest fight, Duke Micah or Tete are far better fighter than Nghitumbwa, even though this is may look like a cherry-picked fight Casimero should not be complacent and must show an impressive performance so he can get a title shot again.

True Tete and Micah is far better player than Nghtumbwa but the record of Casimero's opponent is not inferior to the record of the two boxers.  Casimero's opponent has the capability to KO his opponent, although they are an unknown boxers, I believe some of these boxers have decent toughness.  We all know that a boxing fight can be finished with just 1 punch even though the dominating boxer is leading.  So I think Casimero does not need to be complacent and overconfident against this boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: PX-Z on March 26, 2023, 11:00:18 PM
This will be a fight to test his trained body for the new weight division and to fer ready for larger fighter and bigger fight in few months after the fight. Hope we see a title bout for him sooner for much more exciting fight for him at least.  


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: tabas on March 26, 2023, 11:39:23 PM
What I am seeing here is more of an opportunity to Nghitumbwa than Casimero. Casimero has got his reputation and has titles and that's why this is a good experience for his opponent and whether the results go accordingly to Nghitumbwa or not. Still, he's managed to get into a fight against Casimero. He has lesser experiences and Casimero's fight gonna give him the hardest probably on his entire career but this will put him on an upperhand on his career path. What do you think guys? Do you agree with what I think as this could really open more opportunities to Nghitumbwa after this match and he's gonna benefit more regardless of the decision?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Slow death on March 26, 2023, 11:44:33 PM
will the fight be on the 3rd of may or on the 13th of may? because on most sites I'm seeing it on May 13th. man for some reason I don't know ( I have no way to get into people's heads to see what they think ) everyone is just making fun of Nghitumbwa, with so many negative comments about Nghitumbwa, I keep asking myself if the guy will be able to focus on the fight, if he keep reading the negative comments about him so on the day of the fight he will lose even before the fight starts, his emotional state will fail

in all the comments I've read I haven't seen at least 1 comment speaking well of him, praising him and rooting for him, for all Nghitumbwa is just an African who will have his first fight outside his country and who committed the madness of accepting to fight against former world champion, so there is no chance, not even 0.00001% of Nghitumbwa winning the fight and to be honest I see that Nghitumbwa will become a punching bag, probably the fight will end very soon with the defeat from Nghitumbwa, this is the scenario that I hope happens in this fight


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Darker45 on March 27, 2023, 06:00:32 AM
LOL! After barking and calling out the stars, Casimero is now fighting against the crumbs. This is what you get when you easily waste the great fight opportunities that are given to you. Well, Casimero can certainly excel in this little fights, though. He will easily dismantle these weak opponents, notwithstanding their records. So his performance will still be appreciated. But time isn't on his side anymore. He will have to climb the ladder sooner rather than later and get the good the quality opponents with big names.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 27, 2023, 01:24:29 PM
All boxers which have been beaten by Nghitumbwa are weak, so the KO record doesn't convince me anything. This should be a warm up for Casimero and he should win via KO in this fight, not sure about the odds, but we might see other betting option when the fight get closer.

If Casimero lose in this fight, well it's better for him to retire :D even though he's still 34 years old, he can fight at least for the next 2-3 years.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Gozie51 on March 27, 2023, 02:48:52 PM
The Security Officer who have love for boxing is highly rated in Namibia for having a lot of energy to hold on to opponent for longtime on the ring. The media speculation on the fight doesn't really favour Nighitumbwa but he is facing the fight coming up on May 13, 2023 in high spirit. I won't be surprised if the fight drag on to the last round and unanimous decision at the end of it all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Maxre on March 27, 2023, 03:07:02 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?

https://i.imgur.com/7hR5Dpz.png
As you have mentioned above I will say that this fight could not be exciting for someone who are not so keen to Boxing. Because mostly people love wrestling and also that's still better that we are seeing Boxing fights in 2023 and it will be epic for me.
I am ready for the action of Johnriel Casimero because maybe he is not hest but still he is a good player and I would love to see his actions. Lest see what will happened and I am waiting for May 2023.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Japinat on March 27, 2023, 03:07:58 PM
This may not be an exciting fight, but at least we'll get to see Casimero in action again. By keeping himself active, he'll be ready for bigger fights in the future. Although his opponent's record isn't scary, Casimero still needs to work hard in training and should not underestimate him. As we all know, upsets can happen anytime in boxing.

Hopefully, his next fight will be a championship fight. Let's watch this!

By the way, where will this fight be held?

The fight will happen at Okada Manila Hotel & Casino which is located somewhere at Paranaque City. I believe that place is a hot spot for gamblers with different country of origin and the venue where this fight will happen can also cater a large crowd but not that large compared to the famous boxing arenas especially in US soil.

Either way, this will be a good thing for Quadro Alas because he won't be going somewhere far enough to set-up his camp as this fight will happen in his own backyard. Regarding the fight, this Fillipus Nghitumbwa is not that much of a threat to the Filipino pride but he needed this fight so that his position will be lifted and soon if he succeeds, we will see him again fighting heavy names at 122.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yogee on March 27, 2023, 03:19:58 PM
I was wondering how even got the fight in the beginning but I can understand now having taken a second look at his number of knockouts. May be too early for him but still a great opportunity. This should be a good match up for boxing purists who doesn't bet or watch based on names only. I'm taking my chances on the bout not reaching the last round. Just have to wait for the best odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Viscore on March 27, 2023, 05:03:41 PM
This may not be an exciting fight, but at least we'll get to see Casimero in action again. By keeping himself active, he'll be ready for bigger fights in the future. Although his opponent's record isn't scary, Casimero still needs to work hard in training and should not underestimate him. As we all know, upsets can happen anytime in boxing.

Hopefully, his next fight will be a championship fight. Let's watch this!

By the way, where will this fight be held?
This is the first time to hear Casimero opponent’s name since I have never seen him in any boxing matches. Though his boxing stat is never impressive, but we should not underestimate him as a professional boxer. He might have the speed and power in boxing, no one knows. But to think that Casimero is a dangerous and powerful boxer, my vote is for him. Let’s see by then who will be the last man standing in the ring, would it be Casimero or this quite unknown opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: YOSHIE on March 27, 2023, 05:39:24 PM
What do you guys think of this fight?
It looks like Casimero is still confident against boxer Nghitumbwa, I'm a little curious about what Casimero said. Nghitumbwa is an easy opponent to beat, I think Casimero's words are too exaggerated and a little arrogant with his betting skills, but in my opinion Nghitumbwa is not a boxer who can be taken lightly as Casimero said.

Indeed, boxer Casimero can be said to be a boxer who has many fans in boxing and he often fights against boxers who are taller than him, but I think fighting Nghitumbwa could be different later, I'm pretty sure the Casimero vs. Nghitumbwa can be won by Nghitumbwa, I'm sure it will happen next May.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 27, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
What do you guys think of this fight?
It looks like Casimero is still confident against boxer Nghitumbwa, I'm a little curious about what Casimero said. Nghitumbwa is an easy opponent to beat, I think Casimero's words are too exaggerated and a little arrogant with his betting skills, but in my opinion Nghitumbwa is not a boxer who can be taken lightly as Casimero said.

Indeed, boxer Casimero can be said to be a boxer who has many fans in boxing and he often fights against boxers who are taller than him, but I think fighting Nghitumbwa could be different later, I'm pretty sure the Casimero vs. Nghitumbwa can be won by Nghitumbwa, I'm sure it will happen next May.

well, we are reading again the name of casimero here. i remember, there was a long thread discussing the potential fight between inoue and casimero, ended up not pushing thru owed to casimero's failure to fight with other opponents.  ;D now, let's see where this will go this time...
if he is sincere on this sports, he should be a disciplined boxer. should always attain the weight requirements and hopefully, no more drama as this fight is actually not a big one for him. seems that this will be his preparation fight for the same weight div as inoue is fighting fulton at super bantamweight div..


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: livingfree on March 27, 2023, 06:00:23 PM
All boxers which have been beaten by Nghitumbwa are weak, so the KO record doesn't convince me anything. This should be a warm up for Casimero and he should win via KO in this fight, not sure about the odds, but we might see other betting option when the fight get closer.

If Casimero lose in this fight, well it's better for him to retire :D even though he's still 34 years old, he can fight at least for the next 2-3 years.
Haha, the same thought as mine.

I'm not belittling the opponent but this is an obvious. If Casimero losses then it means that he went easy on him and just allowed him to get beaten.

Maybe this is just like near to rest fight and then he'll go with a bigger opponent just after this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: serjent05 on March 27, 2023, 09:16:04 PM
All boxers which have been beaten by Nghitumbwa are weak, so the KO record doesn't convince me anything. This should be a warm up for Casimero and he should win via KO in this fight, not sure about the odds, but we might see other betting option when the fight get closer.

But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 

If Casimero lose in this fight, well it's better for him to retire :D even though he's still 34 years old, he can fight at least for the next 2-3 years.

Lol, retiring is a bit harsh, maybe reflect on his actions and trainings.  He is still capable at his age and still at his prime .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Mahanton on March 27, 2023, 09:31:13 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?
If we do look on Boxrec record on Casimero and this unknown fighter then you could really see the wide gap when it comes to experience but if we do look up with that 13 fights of this challenger then
we could see that he has that huge KO percentage which it isnt something that Casimero should really be that confident on taking up shots with this dude. Im aint saying that he's in danger but
we know that upsets could really happen on boxing sports too which it wont really be that just that ideal nor right on taking up opponents lightly because you dont know
on where that lucky punch would set in.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on March 27, 2023, 10:21:07 PM
For the record though, there are a lot of good boxers from Namibia who have held either the bantamweight or super bantamweight and I think there is the weight class that they focus or at least any other South African country as it's a perfect fight for their height and weight. And again, to be fair, he held the WBO Global belt, but it's not the normal belts that champions hold in their organizations. We may compare it to like regional titles, like Asia Pacific or intercontinental Pacific, so it's a secondary belt from this (corrupt) organizations.

I was wondering how even got the fight in the beginning but I can understand now having taken a second look at his number of knockouts. May be too early for him but still a great opportunity. This should be a good match up for boxing purists who doesn't bet or watch based on names only. I'm taking my chances on the bout not reaching the last round. Just have to wait for the best odds.

And probably why he is chosen is that it's the WBO after all, and Casimero was used to be their title in the bantamweight division. Who knows after this, he might be inching closer for another title shot from WBO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: danherbias07 on March 27, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Just another step up the ladder.
I don't think they will give Casimero a good fight just yet. He may be ready but due to his past, he may need to work harder to fight higher seeds of boxers in his weight class.
Finish this quickly, and show them his strength because he cannot wait long anymore.
At 34 years old, time is running out for him. 2 fights a year is what he needed to be a title contender again. Now, he is up against a 27-year-old Fillipus Nghitumbwa and if Casimero can show the difference in strength and experience then he might be recognized again to be matched with a higher seed.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on March 27, 2023, 11:35:24 PM
The Security Officer who have love for boxing is highly rated in Namibia for having a lot of energy to hold on to opponent for longtime on the ring. The media speculation on the fight doesn't really favour Nighitumbwa but he is facing the fight coming up on May 13, 2023 in high spirit. I won't be surprised if the fight drag on to the last round and unanimous decision at the end of it all.
I doubt that Casimero loves his opponent coming and if he can take the guy's punches he'll go for knockout or stoppage we have seen it in Micah and Akaho's fight and all the other of his fights once he tasted his opponents punch he will go all out if Nghitumbwa has a weak defense which is obvious based on the videos of his fight he is in big trouble.
Nghitumbwa should live up to his expectation he should have heavy hands if not Casimero will go all out and knock him out, he shows no respect and mercy to his opponents who do not have heavy hands.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on March 27, 2023, 11:38:58 PM

As per checking this unpopular boxer, at least in my own boxing vocabulary, Filipus Nghitumbwa is currently ranked number 10 by the WBO.

He's not ranked by other major boxing-sanctioning organizations, WBC, WBA, and IBF.

Don't know how Casimero ended up negotiating a deal with Nghitumbwa but regardless, it's good that he didn't remain idle for long waiting for his next fights. Again, just as Casimero did against Akaho on his debut fight at 122, he just needs to again to impress the boxing community with an impressive win as that might result again in improving his rank which will give him more opportunity to settle a deal with top-ranked boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Vaculin on March 28, 2023, 09:30:19 AM
What do you guys think of this fight?
It looks like Casimero is still confident against boxer Nghitumbwa, I'm a little curious about what Casimero said. Nghitumbwa is an easy opponent to beat, I think Casimero's words are too exaggerated and a little arrogant with his betting skills, but in my opinion Nghitumbwa is not a boxer who can be taken lightly as Casimero said.

Indeed, boxer Casimero can be said to be a boxer who has many fans in boxing and he often fights against boxers who are taller than him, but I think fighting Nghitumbwa could be different later, I'm pretty sure the Casimero vs. Nghitumbwa can be won by Nghitumbwa, I'm sure it will happen next May.

Casimero has been like that ever since he step foot in the international ring and even he fought locally, it's not like that we're still not used to his antics if that's what you mean. He always tends to brag, arrogant and exaggerate somethings but that is his usual self as he like to distract his opponents gameplan and mess them in the head, but he can always back his words with action and that is what makes people like him.

I pretty much believe that he can beat this opponent just like what he had said because looking at their record, this Nghitumbwa is not much of a threat and it will be an advantage to Casimero to make a statement again that he's coming for the champions. Hopefully this will materialize though because he badly needed some fights to climb the ladder.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Maslate on March 28, 2023, 11:25:51 AM
I pretty much believe that he can beat this opponent just like what he had said because looking at their record, this Nghitumbwa is not much of a threat and it will be an advantage to Casimero to make a statement again that he's coming for the champions. Hopefully this will materialize though because he badly needed some fights to climb the ladder.
Just like other great boxers, they need a tune-up fight before a big fight. Although it's not guaranteed that Casimero will have a big fight after this, at least this will keep him busy and active this year. Who knows, a big fight may be waiting for him, and therefore he needs to have an impressive win.

In his previous fight, we saw a dominant Casimero despite his opponent acting like he was Oscar-worthy. Later on, he admitted that Casimero had really beaten him.

Anyway, good luck to Casimero. Although we might think it's an easy fight for him, hopefully, we will still see an entertaining fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stadus on March 28, 2023, 12:02:46 PM
This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: rodskee on March 28, 2023, 12:12:01 PM
another counting for Casimero's record as the opponent seems to be not enough for what Johnriel beaten in his entire career , and also this Opponent has no experiece outside his fellow countrymen so the pressure will always there.

Hoping for the next good fight of casimero and not this kind of match up lol, a aure win for the Filipino Boxer.
This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.
this is a fight of preparation for something big fight sooner.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 28, 2023, 12:31:54 PM

As per checking this unpopular boxer, at least in my own boxing vocabulary, Filipus Nghitumbwa is currently ranked number 10 by the WBO.

He's not ranked by other major boxing-sanctioning organizations, WBC, WBA, and IBF.

Don't know how Casimero ended up negotiating a deal with Nghitumbwa but regardless, it's good that he didn't remain idle for long waiting for his next fights. Again, just as Casimero did against Akaho on his debut fight at 122, he just needs to again to impress the boxing community with an impressive win as that might result again in improving his rank which will give him more opportunity to settle a deal with top-ranked boxers.
I think that's the most important thing for Casimero, just last December he had a fight with Akaho which didn't turn out good for him. And so with a new manager promoter, it's just time for Casimero to look for a fight and so he won't have that ring rust and he will be active even if it is against a fighter that his lower rank and we never heard before.

He is not getting any younger, although he is still in the peak of his career. But he needs to be active if he still wants to become a world champion in this new division because he still can do it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: arwin100 on March 28, 2023, 12:32:20 PM
This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 28, 2023, 01:12:29 PM
But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Russlenat on March 28, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa, but Casimero has been popular even before he moved up. However, it's okay if some think that Nghitumbwa might beat Casimero, as that's their personal opinion. Besides, we never know the outcome of a future fight.

Although this may not be a tough challenge, Casimero is still considering it a big fight. If he loses against Nghitumbwa, there will be no reason for him to continue fighting as his dreams will be too far to achieve.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Sanitough on March 28, 2023, 01:42:30 PM
But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa, but Casimero has been popular even before he moved up. However, it's okay if some think that Nghitumbwa might beat Casimero, as that's their personal opinion. Besides, we never know the outcome of a future fight.

Although this may not be a tough challenge, Casimero is still considering it a big fight. If he loses against Nghitumbwa, there will be no reason for him to continue fighting as his dreams will be too far to achieve.

Casimero needs to remain disciplined, and eventually he will get a big fight, maybe even challenging the champion, hopefully Inoue. Inoue's fight against Fulton was postponed due to his injury, but I'm optimistic that it will happen this year.

Casimero is no stranger to fighting KO artists. In fact, he likes it because it allows him to show his counter-punching ability that can result in a KO of his opponent. If odds are already available, I would go for Casimero winning via KO, maybe between rounds 1-3.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: yazher on March 28, 2023, 02:00:51 PM

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

It's really a good fight for Casimero because he won't be dealing with someone who is not willing to go clash in the middle of the ring against him. This guy might not be famous but I think, he will gonna go dance with Casimero in the middle of the ring without running and I think this fight might not go to the judges' decision because we all know that Casimero has been frustrated with his last fight and wanted to regain back his honor and popularity. He will finish this guy as soon as possible but at the same time, he should be more careful because he can also get knockout as well by Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Russlenat on March 29, 2023, 01:44:38 AM

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

It's really a good fight for Casimero because he won't be dealing with someone who is not willing to go clash in the middle of the ring against him. This guy might not be famous but I think, he will gonna go dance with Casimero in the middle of the ring without running and I think this fight might not go to the judges' decision because we all know that Casimero has been frustrated with his last fight and wanted to regain back his honor and popularity. He will finish this guy as soon as possible but at the same time, he should be more careful because he can also get knockout as well by Nghitumbwa.

Definitely, if he plans to engage in a dance with Casimero, he will need to ensure that he has a solid chin and body. Casimero is skilled in identifying the weaknesses of his opponents, so any flaws will likely be exploited. It's worth noting that he hasn't won an impressive victory in recent times, so perhaps this bout will end without any controversy and gradually elevate Casimero's standing in this division.

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Questat on March 29, 2023, 02:52:10 AM

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: rodskee on March 29, 2023, 02:53:49 AM
This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.
actually both of them aren't familiar with each others capacity , though Casimero had faced multiple opponent from other countries yet?  Nghitumbwa is a knock out puncher and has a good record as well.

but for me personally ? this is not enough to bring down the champ from Philippines , this will be a big step for Him if he can knock Casimero Down (wishful thinking)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: lienfaye on March 29, 2023, 03:48:36 AM
This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.
actually both of them aren't familiar with each others capacity , though Casimero had faced multiple opponent from other countries yet?  Nghitumbwa is a knock out puncher and has a good record as well.

but for me personally ? this is not enough to bring down the champ from Philippines , this will be a big step for Him if he can knock Casimero Down (wishful thinking)
I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: danherbias07 on March 29, 2023, 05:23:18 AM

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Natalim on March 29, 2023, 05:30:07 AM

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.
This situation shouldn't be a significant threat to Casimero as he would not have to start from scratch if he hadn't lost his belt. He is now attempting to reclaim the championship title in a different division and will need to work his way up from the bottom again.

However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Botnake on March 29, 2023, 08:33:50 AM

However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: aioc on March 29, 2023, 02:37:34 PM

I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: virasisog on March 29, 2023, 04:27:53 PM

I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on March 29, 2023, 08:52:26 PM

I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.

Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: bisdak40 on March 29, 2023, 08:55:49 PM

However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Casimero has a wide advantage experience-wise so that will be the reason why he will be the huge favorite going into this fight plus he will be fighting in the Philippines so that alone is a huge hurdle for Nghitumbwa. Though on paper, the African fighter is a KO artist but those boxers he KOed were unknown while Casimero has fought names that were talked about in the boxing community like Rigo and Tete.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?

Not yet available but definitely this will be listed a day or two before fight night.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: passwordnow on March 29, 2023, 08:59:26 PM
Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on March 29, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: lionheart78 on March 29, 2023, 10:42:05 PM

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

I agree that experience is a big advantage to a boxer.  Since having an experience, he is able to adjust and go think while in the ring.  Most unexperienced boxer failed to adapt during the fight making them a bit stiff and confused when things does not go as expected. One example is the fight of Rey Boom Boom Bautista against Daniel Ponce De Leon.  Bautista being unexperienced to be in a dire situation made him confused when he got caught by De Leon.  An experienced boxer will stay down until he recovered a bit but instead, Boom Boom Bautista tried to stand ASAP and did not use the ring to move around to shrug off the dizziness, instead, he just went straight to confront the advantageous opponent.

Here is the video of the said fight: https://youtu.be/WBqXIm0KhP4?t=95

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.

That may be the case and I think Nghitumbwa is somehow comfortable in fighting now, with his record, we cannot just underestimate the guy even though it is his first time fighting outside Africa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Slow death on March 30, 2023, 08:14:31 AM
The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa

and why are you and most people hearing his name only now? I, for example, am an amateur in this Boxing world, but there are many fighters I know, because when I go to a Boxing news site there are news about hundreds of fighters and why are these fighters in the news? they are in the news because they are competing at the highest level, so all the attention is on them and for them to compete at the highest level and because they are extremely skilled fighters, they are not competing at the highest level because they were lucky, they are not counting on luck, they have talent, a lot of training and strategies, physical strength and they had to fight with the best fighters and thanks to that they are fighting at the highest level

By that I mean that data and statistics are extremely important things in analyzing a fight and in order to determine the likely winner of a fight. in this case, for example, we have a fighter who doesn't fight at the highest level, so how can we consider him strong? he can be strong in the place where he fights but the point is that where he fights is not in a place where there are high level fighters, therefore he is not at the level of high level fighters, so when he faces a high level fighter level and of course he will have many difficulties, the first difficulty he will suffer will be having to deal with many fans of the opponent and the press and many cameras, the second will be the rhythm of a high level professional fighter... in my opinion opinion the winner of this fight is clear


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: danherbias07 on March 30, 2023, 10:47:38 AM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Maslate on March 30, 2023, 11:01:13 AM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

I'm excited about this news! It's been a while since Casimero had a fight held in the Philippines. Fans would surely love to see him fight in his home country, especially since this isn't really a big fight. The Philippines would be a great venue for it. Casimero will definitely be more inspired fighting in front of his kababayans. Although this isn't a championship fight, who knows? Maybe the next championship fight will be held here in the Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Dave1 on March 30, 2023, 11:57:14 AM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

I'm excited about this news! It's been a while since Casimero had a fight held in the Philippines. Fans would surely love to see him fight in his home country, especially since this isn't really a big fight. The Philippines would be a great venue for it. Casimero will definitely be more inspired fighting in front of his kababayans. Although this isn't a championship fight, who knows? Maybe the next championship fight will be held here in the Philippines.

It's been confirmed already that this fight is going to be held in the Philippines, Okada is the venue. Not sure though how much is the tickets, but for sure, Casimero fans love to see in happening in his home soil.

Nonito Donaire will have a good chance to become a world champion again, so that is already a plus for Philippines.

Although it will be better to have another one in the likes of Casimero but it might take a while before he can get his chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: passwordnow on March 30, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 30, 2023, 12:28:14 PM
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.
I think he is still chasing Inoue, maybe he doesn't have the belt to chase him right now because he is just a rank boxer in this division and se he has to slowly build his reputation again at 122 lbs. And when the time comes that he is prime again in this division, he might call Inoue again.

And so with this fight, just another stepping stone for him, first is Akaho, which doesn't look good in his resume because it's controversial.

But if he can win with a big knockout here so maybe he will be notice again and given the chance to fight for the belt by WBO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Shamm on March 30, 2023, 12:48:39 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per the below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so I think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he becomes a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not have much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?

https://i.imgur.com/7hR5Dpz.png

We cannot say that this is a good and easy win by Quadro alas casimero even though cashmere is the most favorite here in this fight while nghitumbwa is the underdog here. But for sure he will bring us more exciting fights because we can not underestimate his skills and fighting technique cause we all know once casimero are too confident then for sure nghitumbwa can dominate him even though there's no knockout but by unanimous decision.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on March 30, 2023, 12:57:01 PM
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on March 30, 2023, 03:06:22 PM

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

Yes, just keep doing what is best for his career and wait for his turn. We never know, but since Inoue already went up meaning to say that the chance for Casimero to meet him inside the ring is now possible.

It's a matter of how good the promoter is and how social media will continue to hype Casimero's name
to earn and attract attentions for the fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on March 30, 2023, 03:20:34 PM

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

His team should focus on Casimero to have another title crack and become champion again, the Akaho fight is quite disappointing although there was an overturn of the decision Casimero is a very talented boxer and he is the frontrunner of Filipino boxers, many are still following his career because he is very brave and he never back out from any fighter that includes Inoue.
This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero but however easy it may seem he should impress the boxing community, as they say, a boxer is only good in his last fight if he can win impressively like an early knockout, boxing organizations may line him up for title crack.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Vaculin on March 30, 2023, 06:17:51 PM
I pretty much believe that he can beat this opponent just like what he had said because looking at their record, this Nghitumbwa is not much of a threat and it will be an advantage to Casimero to make a statement again that he's coming for the champions. Hopefully this will materialize though because he badly needed some fights to climb the ladder.
Just like other great boxers, they need a tune-up fight before a big fight. Although it's not guaranteed that Casimero will have a big fight after this, at least this will keep him busy and active this year. Who knows, a big fight may be waiting for him, and therefore he needs to have an impressive win.

In his previous fight, we saw a dominant Casimero despite his opponent acting like he was Oscar-worthy. Later on, he admitted that Casimero had really beaten him.

Anyway, good luck to Casimero. Although we might think it's an easy fight for him, hopefully, we will still see an entertaining fight.

Yes, in-short, Casimero indeed got this fight and he's ready to make a comeback in this new division he's in. Just a few small time fight to get himself a big fight, he can't do anything about it but to trust the process because he is now fighting to lift his position among the standings. Who knows, he might get himself a big fight next year as long as he will stay active and will get a 2nd fight before this year ends because that will indeed help his campaign.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Jating on March 30, 2023, 07:01:48 PM

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

His team should focus on Casimero to have another title crack and become champion again, the Akaho fight is quite disappointing although there was an overturn of the decision Casimero is a very talented boxer and he is the frontrunner of Filipino boxers, many are still following his career because he is very brave and he never back out from any fighter that includes Inoue.
This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero but however easy it may seem he should impress the boxing community, as they say, a boxer is only good in his last fight if he can win impressively like an early knockout, boxing organizations may line him up for title crack.

That Akaho fight is very disappointed for us and for Casimero, I mean if Akaho decided to continue to fight then we will see Casimero's beast unleashed again and maybe he will really win by knockout. But Akaho robbed us when he quit and although the ruling has overturn, it leave a bad taste for us fans.

I don't think ti's going to be an easy fight, Nghitumbwa has noting to lose in this fight, so most likely he will go with everything he got and test Casimero. And if Casimero bring back than brandish style of his, we might see another knockout performance as he is known when he was a 118 lbs champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: serjent05 on March 30, 2023, 08:01:56 PM

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

His team should focus on Casimero to have another title crack and become champion again, the Akaho fight is quite disappointing although there was an overturn of the decision Casimero is a very talented boxer and he is the frontrunner of Filipino boxers, many are still following his career because he is very brave and he never back out from any fighter that includes Inoue.
This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero but however easy it may seem he should impress the boxing community, as they say, a boxer is only good in his last fight if he can win impressively like an early knockout, boxing organizations may line him up for title crack.

That Akaho fight is very disappointed for us and for Casimero, I mean if Akaho decided to continue to fight then we will see Casimero's beast unleashed again and maybe he will really win by knockout. But Akaho robbed us when he quit and although the ruling has overturn, it leave a bad taste for us fans.

It does not leave a bad tastes on Casimero but on Akaho. I think the fight controversy even helped Casimero to be recognized as a force to be reckoned with.  Casimero's performance is somehow great, it is that the momentum was killed when Akaho refuse to continue but it made Casimero's name in front of the news paper and a talk of the boxing community for some time.  That helps boost Casimero's popularity somehow.

I don't think ti's going to be an easy fight, Nghitumbwa has noting to lose in this fight, so most likely he will go with everything he got and test Casimero. And if Casimero bring back than brandish style of his, we might see another knockout performance as he is known when he was a 118 lbs champion.

There is two situation here.  If Nghitumbwa is the type of boxer that many of us expect (inexperience, not that powerful as an elite KO puncher because his opponent are weak) this might be a walk in the park just like when he fought Tete.  But if this Nghitumbwa is actually has a killer puncher and has move inside the ring and accumulated enough experience to know what to do, then Casimero might be having a hard time on this fight.

Still, I think Casimero still has the advantage.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: bisdak40 on March 30, 2023, 09:51:37 PM
It's been confirmed already that this fight is going to be held in the Philippines, Okada is the venue. Not sure though how much is the tickets, but for sure, Casimero fans love to see in happening in his home soil.

Nonito Donaire will have a good chance to become a world champion again, so that is already a plus for Philippines.

Although it will be better to have another one in the likes of Casimero but it might take a while before he can get his chance.

Though this will not be the first time that Casimero will be fighting in his home country but every time he does, he brings the excitement that a regular Filipino boxing fans wanted. Have seen him in flesh against Sultan and though he lost that fight but i could say that it was indeed an exciting one.

Casimero is one of the best boxers we have right one in the PH, he recently received an award for being the "Boxer of the Year" so yeah, the chance of being a world champion once again is very likely so for us his fans if we have the opportunity to watch him in flesh then we do as this is one way of supporting him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Cling18 on March 30, 2023, 10:21:22 PM
It's been confirmed already that this fight is going to be held in the Philippines, Okada is the venue. Not sure though how much is the tickets, but for sure, Casimero fans love to see in happening in his home soil.

Nonito Donaire will have a good chance to become a world champion again, so that is already a plus for Philippines.

Although it will be better to have another one in the likes of Casimero but it might take a while before he can get his chance.

Though this will not be the first time that Casimero will be fighting in his home country but every time he does, he brings the excitement that a regular Filipino boxing fans wanted. Have seen him in flesh against Sultan and though he lost that fight but i could say that it was indeed an exciting one.

Casimero is one of the best boxers we have the right one in the PH, he recently received an award for being the "Boxer of the Year" so yeah, the chance of being a world champion once again is very likely so for us his fans if we have the opportunity to watch him in flesh then we do as this is one way of supporting him.

It's been a long time since the last time that a famous boxer from the Philippines would have a fight to behind on his country. It will surely bring him more confidence as his fellow citizens will be supporting him. Playing n your own homecourt will be challenging yet exciting at the same time. I'm sure that Casimero will be more eager to bring pride to his country this time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on March 30, 2023, 10:22:04 PM
It's been confirmed already that this fight is going to be held in the Philippines, Okada is the venue. Not sure though how much is the tickets, but for sure, Casimero fans love to see in happening in his home soil.

Nonito Donaire will have a good chance to become a world champion again, so that is already a plus for Philippines.

Although it will be better to have another one in the likes of Casimero but it might take a while before he can get his chance.

Though this will not be the first time that Casimero will be fighting in his home country but every time he does, he brings the excitement that a regular Filipino boxing fans wanted. Have seen him in flesh against Sultan and though he lost that fight but i could say that it was indeed an exciting one.

Well Casimero is a performer, he loves to entertain his fans and audiences.  We can see it on his videos and probably one of the reason why he got caught on a sauna is to give entertainment to his fans by updating what he is into, but failed to realized that using Sauna to reduce weight is against the rule. lol.  This is why his fans get exciting. He always wanted to get into a brawl or toe to toe and teasing his opponent every time he got the upper hand.


Casimero is one of the best boxers we have right one in the PH, he recently received an award for being the "Boxer of the Year" so yeah, the chance of being a world champion once again is very likely so for us his fans if we have the opportunity to watch him in flesh then we do as this is one way of supporting him.

I agree he is one of the best boxer the Philippines have to offer in the boxing world.  I am glad that he is still on his prime but sad in the same time because he will be out of his prime soon.  



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on March 30, 2023, 11:40:28 PM
That Akaho fight is very disappointed for us and for Casimero, I mean if Akaho decided to continue to fight then we will see Casimero's beast unleashed again and maybe he will really win by knockout. But Akaho robbed us when he quit and although the ruling has overturn, it leave a bad taste for us fans.

I don't understand how that fight leaves a bad taste in you where in fact Casimero turned Akaho into a punching bag that day. Aside from that, it was a KO win by Casimero after the review. That fight is not a disappointment as that win made him ranked 8 by the WBO.

Moving forward, in this fight, the same approach as what he did to Akaho should be shown by Casimero or much better in order for him to be recognized as one of the best contenders for the title. If everything goes smoothly, we will see Casimero again in a title match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Sanitough on March 31, 2023, 04:55:52 AM
That Akaho fight is very disappointed for us and for Casimero, I mean if Akaho decided to continue to fight then we will see Casimero's beast unleashed again and maybe he will really win by knockout. But Akaho robbed us when he quit and although the ruling has overturn, it leave a bad taste for us fans.

I don't understand how that fight leaves a bad taste in you where in fact Casimero turned Akaho into a punching bag that day. Aside from that, it was a KO win by Casimero after the review. That fight is not a disappointment as that win made him ranked 8 by the WBO.

Moving forward, in this fight, the same approach as what he did to Akaho should be shown by Casimero or much better in order for him to be recognized as one of the best contenders for the title. If everything goes smoothly, we will see Casimero again in a title match.

Perhaps he was disappointed with Akaho's actions, as instead of defeating the best warrior, Akaho acted as the best actor. This resulted in Casimero not being declared the winner of the fight. Cheating has no place in the sport of boxing, which is meant for strong competitors. Cheaters tarnish the reputation of the sport.

However, it's time to move on and focus on the upcoming fight. Hopefully, Nghitumbwa won't take any tips from Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Natalim on March 31, 2023, 05:23:23 AM
However, it's time to move on and focus on the upcoming fight. Hopefully, Nghitumbwa won't take any tips from Akaho.

What kind of tip are you referring to? To become the best actor? Just kidding!

On a more serious note, we can't be sure if Nghitumbwa has the skills to match Casimero's, but I'm hoping that this fight will at least be entertaining. There are rumors that the fight will be held in the Philippines, which would make it a significant event for Filipino fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on March 31, 2023, 02:01:40 PM
However, it's time to move on and focus on the upcoming fight. Hopefully, Nghitumbwa won't take any tips from Akaho.

What kind of tip are you referring to? To become the best actor? Just kidding!

On a more serious note, we can't be sure if Nghitumbwa has the skills to match Casimero's, but I'm hoping that this fight will at least be entertaining. There are rumors that the fight will be held in the Philippines, which would make it a significant event for Filipino fans.

Casimero needs something that will bring a good advertisement to his name. Fans are aiming to see entertaining and enjoyable fights so we might see him showcasing his talent.

It will be depends now with his opponent if he will give something decent against Casimero,
something that will add hypes to this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: aioc on March 31, 2023, 03:01:55 PM


Casimero needs something that will bring a good advertisement to his name. Fans are aiming to see entertaining and enjoyable fights so we might see him showcasing his talent.

It will be depends now with his opponent if he will give something decent against Casimero,
something that will add hypes to this fight.

No issue with Casimero he always comes to fight, style makes a fight if his opponent comes to fight then we will have an exciting fight, I have followed Casimero's career and there's no boring fight in his record, he is a real journey having fought in 9 countries and beating fighters at their own turf.
Duke Micah is a more even better fighter than Nghitumbwa I just hope he will not do Akaho's antics, only three days I'm excited about their face-off we know Casimero is menacing on the faceoff.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: passwordnow on March 31, 2023, 07:20:42 PM
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.
I think he is still chasing Inoue, maybe he doesn't have the belt to chase him right now because he is just a rank boxer in this division and se he has to slowly build his reputation again at 122 lbs. And when the time comes that he is prime again in this division, he might call Inoue again.

And so with this fight, just another stepping stone for him, first is Akaho, which doesn't look good in his resume because it's controversial.

But if he can win with a big knockout here so maybe he will be notice again and given the chance to fight for the belt by WBO.
Unlike Donaire, Casimero still has the time to chase Inoue if that's what he really wants. Yeah, maybe this is a big step for him to get closer and get noticed again but I'm sure that he's also in the list of the other aspiring boxers that would like to get noticed as well so, if it's a stepping stone for him then it's also for his opponent and the others that are interested of fighting him.

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
Don't worry about it if there have been talks about Inoue and him, we the fans are just the ones who are talking about it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stadus on March 31, 2023, 07:20:45 PM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

It is indeed a good news for us Filipino boxing fans because they are giving us a favor to support our fellow countryman live in his fight against Nghitumbwa, Casimero definitely need our utmost support because he is campaigning to make a close climb to the champions of this new division that he's into. It's just unfortunate that our government isn't funding to any kind of sports, even our athletes who are participating in the recent Olympics doesn't get any financial nor even moral support from the government, what more if it's about funding this industry.

Anyway, talking about Casimero, it's a good news that the fight will happen here in the Philippines, and he doesn't have to go to any foreign country to set a camp to adjust from their climate because here, he's already used by the weather and will not have any major challenges in his preparations towards this upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 31, 2023, 07:32:58 PM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
Quote
Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

It is indeed a good news for us Filipino boxing fans because they are giving us a favor to support our fellow countryman live in his fight against Nghitumbwa, Casimero definitely need our utmost support because he is campaigning to make a close climb to the champions of this new division that he's into. It's just unfortunate that our government isn't funding to any kind of sports, even our athletes who are participating in the recent Olympics doesn't get any financial nor even moral support from the government, what more if it's about funding this industry.

Anyway, talking about Casimero, it's a good news that the fight will happen here in the Philippines, and he doesn't have to go to any foreign country to set a camp to adjust from their climate because here, he's already used by the weather and will not have any major challenges in his preparations towards this upcoming fight.
Of course, it will be good if his Filipino fans can watch him fight live in the Philippines. But I think it's better for him to be really stateside if he wants that big fight against Inoue or anyone in that division.

So all advantage is on Casimero as you have said, it will just take some training to really show his power against Nghitumbwa and make the money's worth watching their Filipino idol in the ring. It could be some pressure on his shoulder because everyone is expecting him to knockout his opponent though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on March 31, 2023, 07:37:23 PM
Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
Don't worry about it if there have been talks about Inoue and him, we the fans are just the ones who are talking about it.

They've talked about it though, I mean Inoue responds to Casimero taunting before and they could have face each other already, if only Casimero has face Butler and won his fight.

Nevertheless, both of them have move to 122 lbs and so there is still a chance for them to chase that big fight. But it's more on Casimero side now to proved if he still has that brandish style and can conquer this division. That's why I said, just one fight at a time and maybe he will have his due to face the Inoue for the championship belt assuming Inoue will beat Fulton.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: serjent05 on March 31, 2023, 07:47:53 PM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
Quote
Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Sadly our government doesn't pay much attention to our athletes.  It is more on the sports commission's failure I think.  Most of our athletes are self-nourished, they rarely get support unless they made themselves a name in the industry.  Instead of nurturing new and promising athletes, the commission does nothing.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

It is obvious, Casimero is hungry of the belt.  He will do his best and will perform well to be noticed.  If his opponent isn't that tough, we might see and early-round knock out (not Casimero kissing the canvas but the other way around) just like what happened in his fight against Akaho


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Kemarit on March 31, 2023, 08:10:27 PM
John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
Quote
Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

It is indeed a good news for us Filipino boxing fans because they are giving us a favor to support our fellow countryman live in his fight against Nghitumbwa, Casimero definitely need our utmost support because he is campaigning to make a close climb to the champions of this new division that he's into. It's just unfortunate that our government isn't funding to any kind of sports, even our athletes who are participating in the recent Olympics doesn't get any financial nor even moral support from the government, what more if it's about funding this industry.

Anyway, talking about Casimero, it's a good news that the fight will happen here in the Philippines, and he doesn't have to go to any foreign country to set a camp to adjust from their climate because here, he's already used by the weather and will not have any major challenges in his preparations towards this upcoming fight.
Of course, it will be good if his Filipino fans can watch him fight live in the Philippines. But I think it's better for him to be really stateside if he wants that big fight against Inoue or anyone in that division.

So all advantage is on Casimero as you have said, it will just take some training to really show his power against Nghitumbwa and make the money's worth watching their Filipino idol in the ring. It could be some pressure on his shoulder because everyone is expecting him to knockout his opponent though.

I don't think that there are pressures on his shoulder, he has been fighting all over the globe and beat the champions in their own homecourt and even marred with boxing riots because he beat their local hero.

And in this case, he might be very comfortable in the face of his country man and I think we will see a better version of Casimero, maybe more so than this fight with Akaho as this is in the Philippines and he could be menacing in this fight, IMHO. As for the support of the PH government, it's true this boxers go in their own way without any support and they will only recognized them once they have succeed like Manny who has a hero's welcome every time he comes back after a big win in the US.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: arwin100 on March 31, 2023, 09:40:31 PM
Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
Don't worry about it if there have been talks about Inoue and him, we the fans are just the ones who are talking about it.

They've talked about it though, I mean Inoue responds to Casimero taunting before and they could have face each other already, if only Casimero has face Butler and won his fight.

Nevertheless, both of them have move to 122 lbs and so there is still a chance for them to chase that big fight. But it's more on Casimero side now to proved if he still has that brandish style and can conquer this division. That's why I said, just one fight at a time and maybe he will have his due to face the Inoue for the championship belt assuming Inoue will beat Fulton.

That fight possible fight against butler is the big disappointment to the fans since they really want to see the fight between Inoue and Casimero to happen but its like Casimero has been sabotage at that time. To many speculations and discussion happen about that controversy but I think both of the fighters move on already with that.

And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on March 31, 2023, 09:54:23 PM
I don't think that there are pressures on his shoulder, he has been fighting all over the globe and beat the champions in their own homecourt and even marred with boxing riots because he beat their local hero.

A boxer fighting in his native country somehow bear pressure and motivation at the same time.  Depending on the boxer, this pressure can be converted to more motivation performing better than his ordinary performance.  So I think Casimero has more pressure in his shoulder now since the wants to KO the opponent in early round is put on the to do list just to satisfy the local audiences.

And in this case, he might be very comfortable in the face of his country man and I think we will see a better version of Casimero, maybe more so than this fight with Akaho as this is in the Philippines and he could be menacing in this fight, IMHO. As for the support of the PH government, it's true this boxers go in their own way without any support and they will only recognized them once they have succeed like Manny who has a hero's welcome every time he comes back after a big win in the US.

I also think that this pressure will serve as a fueling factor for Casimero to train harder and perform better on his upcoming fight.  There is no better thing than emerging victorious by knocking out an opponent in early round  in front of fans and local supporter.

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
Don't worry about it if there have been talks about Inoue and him, we the fans are just the ones who are talking about it.

They've talked about it though, I mean Inoue responds to Casimero taunting before and they could have face each other already, if only Casimero has face Butler and won his fight.

Nevertheless, both of them have move to 122 lbs and so there is still a chance for them to chase that big fight. But it's more on Casimero side now to proved if he still has that brandish style and can conquer this division. That's why I said, just one fight at a time and maybe he will have his due to face the Inoue for the championship belt assuming Inoue will beat Fulton.

That fight possible fight against butler is the big disappointment to the fans since they really want to see the fight between Inoue and Casimero to happen but its like Casimero has been sabotage at that time. To many speculations and discussion happen about that controversy but I think both of the fighters move on already with that.


What disappointing is the cancellation of agreed fight between Inoue and Casimero due to the pandemic.  That was a missed chance to see Casimero and Inoue boxing out for unification title.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on March 31, 2023, 10:52:12 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 31, 2023, 10:55:54 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.
Still depends on the promoter on which if Arum would really be liking for his cashcow to fight against Casimero then he had long time do able to allow such fight but we know that we cant really be able to definitely tell

on what are the plans that they do have in mind.Fights that would really be scheduled and fixed out according to their own likings and decision which there's no way that we could tell on how long or early

until we do see an Inoue vs Casimero fight but lots had been anticipating and looking forward for this fight to happen but of course Casimero need to catch up on winning possible upcoming
fights and would really be going against Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: carlisle1 on March 31, 2023, 10:57:30 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.

If that opportunity comes to him for sure, Casimero will bring everything and will try all the best, a kind of
chances that all fighters wanted to bring legacy and millions of money.

Far from it for now, as Inoue is scheduled to fight Fulton while Casimero has his own upcoming fight.

Not a very well-known fighter, but good enough to hypes his name if he will impress the fans with the way he wins the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on March 31, 2023, 10:58:24 PM
I also think that this pressure will serve as a fueling factor for Casimero to train harder and perform better on his upcoming fight.  There is no better thing than emerging victorious by knocking out an opponent in early round  in front of fans and local supporter.

Regardless of whether there's pressure or not, Casimero already knows what to do, and training hard and smarter is always part of his regime whenever he has an upcoming fight. I also don't see Casimero will feel pressure on this fight especially if will be held in the home country. He's a trash talker after all lol.

There is no better thing than emerging victorious by knocking out an opponent in early round  in front of fans and local supporter.

That is what fans are expecting and waiting for.

But just want to share some that I remember 100% even if it was way past several years. Talking about Manny Pacquiao, there are some points in his career matches when he didn't want to end the fight quickly, especially if there are lots of Pinoys watching him live at the venue because he feels that the paid tickets, which are really expensive, will be not worth it if he will finish the match quickly. Shorter-fight = less exposure, where in fact, witnessing a KO win will be worth the money.

Does it make sense? lol. As for Casimero, I'm sure he won't think about that haha.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: robelneo on March 31, 2023, 11:28:12 PM

Far from it for now, as Inoue is scheduled to fight Fulton while Casimero has his own upcoming fight.

Not a very well-known fighter, but good enough to hypes his name if he will impress the fans with the way he wins the fight.
The Casimero - Inoue saga has been going on for so many years they should have fought a long time but circumstances don't let them fight yet, but their respective journey continues and we will soon have them both inside the ring together, great fights take time, but it will eventually come as long as they are both within their weight category and both agreed to fight each other it will eventually happen, hopefully, the long wait ends this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: goinmerry on March 31, 2023, 11:41:34 PM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on April 01, 2023, 02:21:48 AM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

Maybe next year if Casimero will have numbers of good fight and be qualified to face a high-ranking opponent that will give him the key to challenge the champ.

For now, we can't really tell if he will be able to have that opportunity better to keep aiming
for more to win and try everything to push his way up.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Dave1 on April 01, 2023, 03:07:50 AM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

Maybe next year if Casimero will have numbers of good fight and be qualified to face a high-ranking opponent that will give him the key to challenge the champ.

We still have a lot of months to go, maybe after this fight and he win it a big fashion like highlight knockout then they could probably target another fight in December with a rank fighter already, maybe top 5 at least.

For now, we can't really tell if he will be able to have that opportunity better to keep aiming
for more to win and try everything to push his way up.

Yes, he is back into the drawing board again after moving up in weight here. So he has a lot of things to accomplished now and this could be another step for him to have his name in the mix for the bantamweight belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: passwordnow on April 01, 2023, 10:51:08 AM
Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
Don't worry about it if there have been talks about Inoue and him, we the fans are just the ones who are talking about it.
They've talked about it though, I mean Inoue responds to Casimero taunting before and they could have face each other already, if only Casimero has face Butler and won his fight.

Nevertheless, both of them have move to 122 lbs and so there is still a chance for them to chase that big fight. But it's more on Casimero side now to proved if he still has that brandish style and can conquer this division. That's why I said, just one fight at a time and maybe he will have his due to face the Inoue for the championship belt assuming Inoue will beat Fulton.
I remember that but it was quite a long time ago and they've got separated ways already. Maybe that can be back and be alive again with that topic but we'll have to wait until whoever starts the conversation again. But it's likely that Casimero is the one that's going to open it up once this match has ended already. Because Inoue is on different weight class and he won't chase the opponents but he's the one that's being chased by those who wants to defeat him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on April 01, 2023, 12:40:30 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.

Perhaps if he scored a knockout win then maybe he will call out Inoue. But there are also other fighters that he can call though, if he wanted to get the respect and who knows maybe the other 2 belt champion in this division.

Casimero will have to carved out again his legacy at 122 lbs, he used to be one of the biggest in 118 lbs, but as I have said, the weight issues was to much for him and now going back to become a world champion. But he needs to be slow but deliberate and this is just another challenge that he needs to win big.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: robelneo on April 01, 2023, 02:15:39 PM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

For the record, Casimero was a champion in three weight category
He has held world championships in three weight classes; including the IBF junior-flyweight title from 2012 to 2013; the IBF flyweight title in 2016; and the WBO bantamweight title from 2019 to 2022.

He did not lose his last title in the ring and he won it against the highly regarded Zolani Tete via 4th-round stoppage, Tete was then considered the boxer who can match Inoue's power but Casimero easily annihilate him, and his last loss was 8 years ago against Sultan via UD.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

He has fought and beaten and knocked out champions like Charlie Edwards, Rigondeaux, and Tete
Casimero has bragging rights to ask Inoue to fight him because he is considered a top-caliber fighter.

Pacquiao was not in the top 5 when he fought Ledwaba, great fighters could go down in rank but that does not mean that they are low-level fighters.




Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stadus on April 01, 2023, 03:14:14 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.

Perhaps if he scored a knockout win then maybe he will call out Inoue. But there are also other fighters that he can call though, if he wanted to get the respect and who knows maybe the other 2 belt champion in this division.

Casimero will have to carved out again his legacy at 122 lbs, he used to be one of the biggest in 118 lbs, but as I have said, the weight issues was to much for him and now going back to become a world champion. But he needs to be slow but deliberate and this is just another challenge that he needs to win big.

Yes, a close fight result of this bout won't get anyone in the higher ups get interested even if he will call them one by one. Furthermore, this is Casimero's 2nd fight so there's no need to be hasty to call out for the big boys, I reckon that he should call the interim champions first because he got more chances to fight the champions in this division if he will be the new interim champions.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Shamm on April 01, 2023, 05:24:44 PM


And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.

Perhaps if he scored a knockout win then maybe he will call out Inoue. But there are also other fighters that he can call though, if he wanted to get the respect and who knows maybe the other 2 belt champion in this division.

Casimero will have to carved out again his legacy at 122 lbs, he used to be one of the biggest in 118 lbs, but as I have said, the weight issues was to much for him and now going back to become a world champion. But he needs to be slow but deliberate and this is just another challenge that he needs to win big.

Yes, a close fight result of this bout won't get anyone in the higher ups get interested even if he will call them one by one. Furthermore, this is Casimero's 2nd fight so there's no need to be hasty to call out for the big boys, I reckon that he should call the interim champions first because he got more chances to fight the champions in this division if he will be the new interim champions.

One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on April 01, 2023, 08:09:15 PM
One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

That should be the goal, Casimero making an impressive win that even it's a non-title fight, he is really dominant and overpowering his opponent.

Look at what happened to his fight against Akaho. That fight wasn't even special and hype before the actual day of the match. But with how Casimero performed on that fight, making Akaho a joke, he is, no doubt got the attentio of the boxing community.

If Casimero will turned this upcoming fight of him into something spectacular and 100% shows being domimant at most part of the match, I'm sure he will again be recognize and might be consider for a good deal on his next match.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Jating on April 01, 2023, 08:23:54 PM
One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

That should be the goal, Casimero making an impressive win that even it's a non-title fight, he is really dominant and overpowering his opponent.

Yes, even if this is a non tittle fight, Casimero should not only impressed his fans, but everyone in the division, to at least show that he is someone to be another fighter that shouldn't be overlook as there are a lot of great boxers in this division.

Look at what happened to his fight against Akaho. That fight wasn't even special and hype before the actual day of the match. But with how Casimero performed on that fight, making Akaho a joke, he is, no doubt got the attentio of the boxing community.

If Casimero will turned this upcoming fight of him into something spectacular and 100% shows being domimant at most part of the match, I'm sure he will again be recognize and might be consider for a good deal on his next match.

He started slow in that fight, but when he got his rhythm, Akaho knows that he can't take fight and just took a dive. If he just try to be as competitive as other boxers that Casimero has fought, he could have made it a fight. But for sure, he will get KO by Casimero and in his first fight at 122 lbs could be impressive. But this is another opportunity for John Riel again and dominate his opponent and go for a KO win against Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: goinmerry on April 01, 2023, 09:00:18 PM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

For the record, Casimero was a champion in three weight category
He has held world championships in three weight classes; including the IBF junior-flyweight title from 2012 to 2013; the IBF flyweight title in 2016; and the WBO bantamweight title from 2019 to 2022.

He did not lose his last title in the ring and he won it against the highly regarded Zolani Tete via 4th-round stoppage, Tete was then considered the boxer who can match Inoue's power but Casimero easily annihilate him, and his last loss was 8 years ago against Sultan via UD.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

He has fought and beaten and knocked out champions like Charlie Edwards, Rigondeaux, and Tete
Casimero has bragging rights to ask Inoue to fight him because he is considered a top-caliber fighter.

Pacquiao was not in the top 5 when he fought Ledwaba, great fighters could go down in rank but that does not mean that they are low-level fighters.

Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: robelneo on April 01, 2023, 09:36:42 PM
hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

For the record, Casimero was a champion in three weight category
He has held world championships in three weight classes; including the IBF junior-flyweight title from 2012 to 2013; the IBF flyweight title in 2016; and the WBO bantamweight title from 2019 to 2022.

He did not lose his last title in the ring and he won it against the highly regarded Zolani Tete via 4th-round stoppage, Tete was then considered the boxer who can match Inoue's power but Casimero easily annihilate him, and his last loss was 8 years ago against Sultan via UD.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

He has fought and beaten and knocked out champions like Charlie Edwards, Rigondeaux, and Tete
Casimero has bragging rights to ask Inoue to fight him because he is considered a top-caliber fighter.

Pacquiao was not in the top 5 when he fought Ledwaba, great fighters could go down in rank but that does not mean that they are low-level fighters.

Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

That's not how boxing fans looked at it, when a boxer entered a ring he carries his records and all the titles he
won and he is introduced with all the titles he won, just wait for Casimero to enter the ring and hear the announcement, again for the record he never lost the title he lost it by default, and it's only been three years since he beat Tete, only when a boxer gets beaten that's where he loses his prestige nor from inactivity and not from fighting unknown fighter and based on his last fight against Akaho he is still very dangerous, Akaho knows it so he prefers to quit than suffers a lot of punishment.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: serjent05 on April 01, 2023, 09:41:01 PM
Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences. 

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: TimeTeller on April 01, 2023, 09:54:13 PM
Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences.  

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.

As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on April 01, 2023, 10:16:52 PM
Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences.  

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.

As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.

Might be hard though to comeback if he losses this one. He is already 34 years old and maybe just about to hit his peak or maybe he is on his prime right now. But if he losses this one, then it might be over for him as it might take some time to bounce back and maybe can't get a decent fight that will boost his name again. So for me still a must win for John Riel and it will be a plus if he can win impressively as most of the posters said. Because a big emphatic win will make his name one of the hottest in this stack 122 lbs. Maybe after this fight, chase some good names like Luis Nery or even Ra'eese Aleem. Those names are rank by WBO as 2 and 3 and Casimero at 5. So there could be opportunities if he will win here as a lost will be costly in his career at this point.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 01, 2023, 10:26:37 PM
As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.

I agree, he needs to do his best in every match he got. At this stage he needs to prove himself and make himself popular and in-demand for the fans to take the interest of other ranked boxer.  Casimero needs to make himself worth fighting even though he do not have any belt and getting popular is one of the way to make these boxers on upper rank and even the sanctioning bodies to take notice of him and give him a chance to rank up or even a title fight in the future.

Might be hard though to comeback if he losses this one. He is already 34 years old and maybe just about to hit his peak or maybe he is on his prime right now. But if he losses this one, then it might be over for him as it might take some time to bounce back and maybe can't get a decent fight that will boost his name again. So for me still a must win for John Riel and it will be a plus if he can win impressively as most of the posters said. Because a big emphatic win will make his name one of the hottest in this stack 122 lbs. Maybe after this fight, chase some good names like Luis Nery or even Ra'eese Aleem. Those names are rank by WBO as 2 and 3 and Casimero at 5. So there could be opportunities if he will win here as a lost will be costly in his career at this point.

True, if Casimero failed to finish his opponent or won the fight, the hype he is building in the previous months in his current weight division will poof.  And more probably many will not take him seriously and will ignore his camp's fight request because it isn't beneficial for their boxer's career climbing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on April 01, 2023, 11:57:03 PM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: lienfaye on April 02, 2023, 02:09:28 AM
John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.
Well, let's just accept that it can't happen anytime soon. Casimero needs to prove something first and build his name again to face a popular boxer in the future.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
That's right and I think he has a chance to win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero is an experienced boxer already and it's his advantage. While his opponent just had a few fights though we can't deny he is also good and a knock out puncher so it won't be easy for Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Silberman on April 02, 2023, 03:20:16 AM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
It is unfortunate that Casimero has to start all over again but this is his fault due to his inability to fight at the specified date he was given, still as we know those which are talented are given a lot of opportunities to mend their ways, and there is little doubt in my mind that Casimero is a very talented boxer, he just needs to go back to his roots and train as hard as he can, and if he does I would give him very high chances of winning his upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: cabron on April 02, 2023, 03:38:45 AM
Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stadus on April 02, 2023, 08:02:18 PM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

It's quite too much to ask for now considering that John Riel Casimero is still working his way towards the ladder and be known in this division by defeating boxers along the line, let's just be patient and believe that certain time will come where we can both of them dancing in one ring. Well, let's say that Casimero managed to drop a huge statement against Nghitumbwa, nobody in the higher-ups will get interested because his foe is a nameless boxer. Much better for Casimero to aim for the interim title holder next to get himself nearer towards the champions.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Kemarit on April 02, 2023, 08:21:46 PM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

Yeah, I don't expect them to fight early this year, Inoue is injured and have to postponed his fight till July. While Casimero will have his fight this May. So the timing might not be there for this 2. Unless the Japanese promoter of Casimero has some inside connection to the camp of Inoue to really push them for like a December fight.

The fans has been waiting for them to face in the ring since Casimero has become a champion when they were both campaigning at 118 lbs. But again, it might take long since they move up and there are a lot of boxers in this division too hoping to face the Monster.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: TimeTeller on April 02, 2023, 09:05:09 PM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

Yeah, I don't expect them to fight early this year, Inoue is injured and have to postponed his fight till July. While Casimero will have his fight this May. So the timing might not be there for this 2. Unless the Japanese promoter of Casimero has some inside connection to the camp of Inoue to really push them for like a December fight.

The fans has been waiting for them to face in the ring since Casimero has become a champion when they were both campaigning at 118 lbs. But again, it might take long since they move up and there are a lot of boxers in this division too hoping to face the Monster.

First and foremost, Casimero should emerge as a winner on his upcoming fight.
Because if he loses again, then the possible match with Inoue just fly out of the table.
Inoue is on a different level now as a boxer. Whereas, Casimero is like starting again his campaign to be a champion.
If he won't discipline himself, even just to achieve the right weight requirements, he won't go nowhere in this sports.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on April 02, 2023, 09:07:20 PM
Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
That's right and I think he has a chance to win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero is an experienced boxer already and it's his advantage. While his opponent just had a few fights though we can't deny he is also good and a knock out puncher so it won't be easy for Casimero.
The ball is on Casimero he needs to win this fight and he needs to win impressively he is fighting in front of local fans against an unknown fighter so what could possibly go wrong if he did not train well or miscalculated his opponent.

Casimero will fight a hungry fighter who wants recognization this is the first time he is fighting outside of his turf and if he happens to upset Casimero, promoters, and boxing organizations will have an eye for him so Casimero should be aware of this it may look an easy fight but still a risky fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: goaldigger on April 02, 2023, 09:37:51 PM
Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 02, 2023, 09:42:51 PM

John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Hopefully, Casimero will be able to have a shot on the other title belts not hold by Fulton.  I don't think it is important to have a match with Inoue at the moment because Inoue is still untitled.  Instead of making plan to face the monster, Casimero should make a detour and aim for the ranked boxer and defeat them to be worth of a title shot against WBA/IBF champ Murodjon Akhmadaliev or have a chance to compete for The Ring  since it is vacant.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

I highly agree.  Casimero must exceed his previous performance in every match, he must capture the attention of all boxing audiences.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on April 02, 2023, 10:24:57 PM
Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.

That's already a given mate, he always do the trash talking because he can back it up by knocking out his opponents. It's different when you trash talk and you are the one getting knockout. Although Donaire cancelled their fight because of Casimero's trash talking and he said that it's disrespectful that's why he is not going to give Casimero his chance. However, him and Donaire has patch thing's up. So everything is good between this two Pinoys.

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The two boxers have mended fences after slugging it out in a series of nasty trash talk online.

Donaire and Casimero appeared in an online interview with Powcast Sports wherein the latter apologized on behalf of his team and fans who joined into the verbal slugfest that led to the cancellation of their supposed fight.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/09/21/21/boxing-casimero-apologizes-to-donaire

And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: aioc on April 02, 2023, 10:59:39 PM


I highly agree.  Casimero must exceed his previous performance in every match, he must capture the attention of all boxing audiences.

It can only happen if his opponent comes to fight like Duke Micah but if his opponent will go like Rigondeaux, it will be 12 rounds of cat and mouse chasing, no problem with Casimero he always comes to fight, ready to slug it out ready to get hit to get a hit, what I like about Casimero is he walk his talk, when he said he will knock his opponent he will find ways on every round so there are no boring rounds when it comes to Casimero it's his opponent call to run or engage.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: PX-Z on April 02, 2023, 11:16:44 PM
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: danherbias07 on April 02, 2023, 11:29:10 PM
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
He needs to make a big statement to climb the ladder again. If he can, a knockout will be a better ending for this fight with all the favors on him. Make it look like WBO or WBC have to put someone stronger if they want to see a more entertaining fight.
Time is running out for him and getting back to that title fight must be done quickly or else he will be too old to win it back.

As for the trash-talking, I have not seen any before the Akaho fight and so is now against Nghitumbwa. None yet. I checked Twitter accounts and I cannot find anything too. He must've learned his lesson already and he actually has nothing to back up his cockyness without a belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: harizen on April 02, 2023, 11:41:57 PM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yamifoud on April 04, 2023, 05:25:36 AM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)

Agreed, Casimero has shown himself to be a true warrior by fighting in different countries and winning most of his fights. When he makes a prediction to knock out his opponent, he usually follows through on it, unless his opponent becomes defensive and only fights to survive the 12 rounds.

Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: danherbias07 on April 04, 2023, 06:10:09 AM
[Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.
And to remind us about how he can be an entertaining fighter, here is the full fight against Akaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJrBcfoqyQ
It didn't end well as the fight was stopped by the referee due to a punch in the nape. But I really doubt it was hit, it's a slip. Then, Akaho saw the referee pointing at the nape so he got the idea to use his acting skills.
Upon watching it over and over, obviously, he was ready to protect himself again with the barrage of punches that Quadro Alas had thrown at him. But, he claimed until the end that he was hurt even though he was given enough time to rest.

A change in style might happen, and Casimero might avoid those kinds of punches while the opponent's head is down to prevent a "no contest". But, we all know he has that power punch that could end the fight as quickly as possible and I know Akaho felt it that's why he didn't go back to fighting him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: stadus on April 04, 2023, 06:21:55 AM
[Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.
And to remind us about how he can be an entertaining fighter, here is the full fight against Akaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJrBcfoqyQ
It didn't end well as the fight was stopped by the referee due to a punch in the nape. But I really doubt it was hit, it's a slip. Then, Akaho saw the referee pointing at the nape so he got the idea to use his acting skills.
Upon watching it over and over, obviously, he was ready to protect himself again with the barrage of punches that Quadro Alas had thrown at him. But, he claimed until the end that he was hurt even though he was given enough time to rest.

A change in style might happen, and Casimero might avoid those kinds of punches while the opponent's head is down to prevent a "no contest". But, we all know he has that power punch that could end the fight as quickly as possible and I know Akaho felt it that's why he didn't go back to fighting him.
Any boxer who respects Casimero's power will be cautious in the fight. Despite not throwing many punches, his accurate timing and ability to land one punch could turn the fight around. I can't forget his impressive victory over Zolani Tete, who underestimated Casimero and already scheduled his next fight against Inoue. Casimero's TKO resulted in the downfall of Tete's career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 04, 2023, 06:32:49 AM
[Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.
And to remind us about how he can be an entertaining fighter, here is the full fight against Akaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJrBcfoqyQ
It didn't end well as the fight was stopped by the referee due to a punch in the nape. But I really doubt it was hit, it's a slip. Then, Akaho saw the referee pointing at the nape so he got the idea to use his acting skills.
Upon watching it over and over, obviously, he was ready to protect himself again with the barrage of punches that Quadro Alas had thrown at him. But, he claimed until the end that he was hurt even though he was given enough time to rest.

A change in style might happen, and Casimero might avoid those kinds of punches while the opponent's head is down to prevent a "no contest". But, we all know he has that power punch that could end the fight as quickly as possible and I know Akaho felt it that's why he didn't go back to fighting him.
Any boxer who respects Casimero's power will be cautious in the fight. Despite not throwing many punches, his accurate timing and ability to land one punch could turn the fight around. I can't forget his impressive victory over Zolani Tete, who underestimated Casimero and already scheduled his next fight against Inoue. Casimero's TKO resulted in the downfall of Tete's career.
Casimero has been underestimated by many boxers and Tete didn't learn from the past. Casimero has traveled a lot and fought champions in their homes soil and bet them and there are even riots during his fight.

What I'm trying to say is that he is battle tested already and with that, if you did underestimate him like what Tete did, you have to pay the price. And just like that, Tete was not the same anymore after his fight with Casimero before the way he was knockout was brutal.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Reatim on April 04, 2023, 07:22:40 AM
84% of knockout percentage? am not sure if we can belittle that record though not as impressive as casimero yet this is one good record to fight the Filipino boxer.
and I believe that there is a good outcome about the fight.
is there schedule about the fight?
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.
it is actually His trademark and if he is not trashtalking then he must change His name  ;D

but like what said by many , this is His fight(Johnriel Casimero)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on April 04, 2023, 07:30:24 AM
[Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.
And to remind us about how he can be an entertaining fighter, here is the full fight against Akaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJrBcfoqyQ
It didn't end well as the fight was stopped by the referee due to a punch in the nape. But I really doubt it was hit, it's a slip. Then, Akaho saw the referee pointing at the nape so he got the idea to use his acting skills.
Upon watching it over and over, obviously, he was ready to protect himself again with the barrage of punches that Quadro Alas had thrown at him. But, he claimed until the end that he was hurt even though he was given enough time to rest.

A change in style might happen, and Casimero might avoid those kinds of punches while the opponent's head is down to prevent a "no contest". But, we all know he has that power punch that could end the fight as quickly as possible and I know Akaho felt it that's why he didn't go back to fighting him.

It's not intentional though on the part of Casimero, that's how he fights, and Akaho is clinching and hugging him that's why the weird angle when he throw that punch. But clearly, it was not even glazing Akaho, he is just a actor who pretend to be hit on the back, as maybe he felt the power of Casimero already and chooses to sit and not let moved forward.

In this fight, Casimero will still be the same, throwing a lot of power punches and hopefully Nghitumbwa is not afraid to go toe to toe. Just like when he fought Duke Micah, that kid is good to be honest and he try to go head to head but the power of Casimero is too much.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Vaculin on April 04, 2023, 07:10:30 PM
[Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.
And to remind us about how he can be an entertaining fighter, here is the full fight against Akaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJrBcfoqyQ
It didn't end well as the fight was stopped by the referee due to a punch in the nape. But I really doubt it was hit, it's a slip. Then, Akaho saw the referee pointing at the nape so he got the idea to use his acting skills.
Upon watching it over and over, obviously, he was ready to protect himself again with the barrage of punches that Quadro Alas had thrown at him. But, he claimed until the end that he was hurt even though he was given enough time to rest.

A change in style might happen, and Casimero might avoid those kinds of punches while the opponent's head is down to prevent a "no contest". But, we all know he has that power punch that could end the fight as quickly as possible and I know Akaho felt it that's why he didn't go back to fighting him.
Any boxer who respects Casimero's power will be cautious in the fight. Despite not throwing many punches, his accurate timing and ability to land one punch could turn the fight around. I can't forget his impressive victory over Zolani Tete, who underestimated Casimero and already scheduled his next fight against Inoue. Casimero's TKO resulted in the downfall of Tete's career.

Right, now if this Nghitumbwa will not be cautious enough nor know Casimero's truly ability, he will be caught by Casimero's power punches by surprise and I got no doubts about that. That is what I liked about him though, even though his mouth frequently talks nonsense that are sometimes not already connected to the topic, he can always back his words with impressive performance. Hopefully Nghitumbwa will give Casimero a good fight as that's what the Filipino boxer wanted.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Japinat on April 04, 2023, 07:23:52 PM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)

Agreed, Casimero has shown himself to be a true warrior by fighting in different countries and winning most of his fights. When he makes a prediction to knock out his opponent, he usually follows through on it, unless his opponent becomes defensive and only fights to survive the 12 rounds.

Casimero is aware that there's still a lot of work to be done to reach the top, but he continues to fight in his own style, entertaining his fans in the process. As he continues to dominate, it's not surprising that he'll gain even more followers in the future.

Not going to argue with you about that as I don't have any doubts about his talents as well.

I may a bit biased towards him because he's my fellow countryman but believe me, this man's dedication is outstanding especially when he's serious. Apart from that, the fact that he is redeeming himself now to climb towards the upper bracket makes him more dangerous, IMO. If he will continue to have 1-2 successive fights this year, he might find himself fighting against a champion next year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Saisher on April 04, 2023, 08:40:45 PM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Baofeng on April 04, 2023, 10:06:41 PM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

We are still in April mate, so we still have a full month before this fight and not 8 days. But I do agree that the date will need to be change to May 13 as this is the official date. Everyone is expecting that Casimero will show his talent and tools here and score a big knockout against his opponent. As we have been discussing, he needs to make a statement win here against a relatively unknown fighter in Nghitumbwa.

It's not that we are underestimating Nghitumbwa here, but we all know how good was Casimero is in the last couple of years specially when he become the champion at 118 lbs. It's just that we didn't witnessed him and Inoue, nevertheless, we might see them in fight in the future if he can win big here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: coin-investor on April 04, 2023, 10:48:30 PM


It's not that we are underestimating Nghitumbwa here, but we all know how good was Casimero is in the last couple of years specially when he become the champion at 118 lbs. It's just that we didn't witnessed him and Inoue, nevertheless, we might see them in fight in the future if he can win big here.

Inoue and Casimero deserve each other both are thinking and powerful puncher, and both know their strength and make the necessary adjustment to apply them, I like how Casimero think inside the ring he sizes up his opponent, negotiate the distance, feel the power of his opponent and when he sums it up he goes for the best strategy to beat his opponent, one good example is his fight against Tete, Casimero is so calm, collected and confident that he can beat Tete

Here is the full fight and see how Casimero thinks inside the ring

Zolani Tete v Johnriel Casimero full fight replay | Powerful third-round stoppage! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn96zYCgxU8&t)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 04, 2023, 11:43:30 PM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on April 05, 2023, 04:11:52 AM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe

We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

Might be true or also might be another April fool's act, but if ever that the negotiations are really on its way
for sure fans who love to see him and Inoue inside the ring will bring more hypes to this possible fight to
take place.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: yazher on April 05, 2023, 10:34:40 AM
We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

All he needs to do for now is to win this fight via TKO or KO if he could because he hasn't been getting real good fights since he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux and he is delayed too much because of some disqualifications before the fight. Thankfully he got the win in his last fight after a review by the Korea Boxing Member Commission if not, then his career is not looking good at the moment. He needs this kind of exposure and does his thing again to catch the fans' attention and somehow will get his chance to be Inoue's next opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Botnake on April 05, 2023, 11:46:13 AM
We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

All he needs to do for now is to win this fight via TKO or KO if he could because he hasn't been getting real good fights since he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux and he is delayed too much because of some disqualifications before the fight. Thankfully he got the win in his last fight after a review by the Korea Boxing Member Commission if not, then his career is not looking good at the moment. He needs this kind of exposure and does his thing again to catch the fans' attention and somehow will get his chance to be Inoue's next opponent.
If Casimero's opponent is prepared to withstand his power punches, we may see a KO victory. However, we should not underestimate his opponent, despite being relatively unknown. He has a high KO percentage, which is sure to present a tough challenge for Casimero. So if Casimero wins this fight, it will significantly boost his career as his ranking will improve. This would open up the possibility of a championship fight for him in the near future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Taskford on April 05, 2023, 12:05:44 PM
We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

All he needs to do for now is to win this fight via TKO or KO if he could because he hasn't been getting real good fights since he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux and he is delayed too much because of some disqualifications before the fight. Thankfully he got the win in his last fight after a review by the Korea Boxing Member Commission if not, then his career is not looking good at the moment. He needs this kind of exposure and does his thing again to catch the fans' attention and somehow will get his chance to be Inoue's next opponent.
If Casimero's opponent is prepared to withstand his power punches, we may see a KO victory. However, we should not underestimate his opponent, despite being relatively unknown. He has a high KO percentage, which is sure to present a tough challenge for Casimero. So if Casimero wins this fight, it will significantly boost his career as his ranking will improve. This would open up the possibility of a championship fight for him in the near future.

Even if we can say for now that Casimero has all the advantage still he's camp shouldn't take this one as easy fight for them. Remember that there's something like this happen before and many thought that Pacquaio will dominate Ugas but it didn't happen, but rather Ugas totally dominate Pacquaio at that fight so  Casimero need to be more prepared for this to avoid the same like scenario since Nghitumbwa is also dangerous opponent to fight on.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Sanitough on April 05, 2023, 12:20:59 PM
We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

All he needs to do for now is to win this fight via TKO or KO if he could because he hasn't been getting real good fights since he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux and he is delayed too much because of some disqualifications before the fight. Thankfully he got the win in his last fight after a review by the Korea Boxing Member Commission if not, then his career is not looking good at the moment. He needs this kind of exposure and does his thing again to catch the fans' attention and somehow will get his chance to be Inoue's next opponent.
If Casimero's opponent is prepared to withstand his power punches, we may see a KO victory. However, we should not underestimate his opponent, despite being relatively unknown. He has a high KO percentage, which is sure to present a tough challenge for Casimero. So if Casimero wins this fight, it will significantly boost his career as his ranking will improve. This would open up the possibility of a championship fight for him in the near future.

Even if we can say for now that Casimero has all the advantage still he's camp shouldn't take this one as easy fight for them. Remember that there's something like this happen before and many thought that Pacquaio will dominate Ugas but it didn't happen, but rather Ugas totally dominate Pacquaio at that fight so  Casimero need to be more prepared for this to avoid the same like scenario since Nghitumbwa is also dangerous opponent to fight on.

That's a valid point, as Ugas has proven himself to be a worthy challenger and has already fought popular fighters in the past. However, I believe that Casimero should not be complacent and should maintain the same rigorous training or even intensify it to ensure he stays in shape and potentially secures an impressive KO win.

And regarding his popularity, it still exists but it's different when a boxer is no longer a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Silberman on April 06, 2023, 03:11:23 AM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)
If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on April 06, 2023, 08:05:43 AM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)
If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

But still though, it's trash talking and that's what sell the fights. Boxers like Floyd or Conor for instance, once they open their mouth in a press conference, it's usually some bad mouthing that you can hear and fans love that.

The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 06, 2023, 08:25:52 AM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)
If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

you will lose your respect to the boxer with that kind of attitude. as they can't back-up what they are claiming to be. so if i am casimero, right now, there's no need to trash talk as he has a lot to prove because he is being behind from his contemporary boxers like inoue. though some are creating noise for the reason that they want to sell the fight. however, just take for example, pacquiao, did he trash talk his opponents? i don't remember any. if he stated something before, that's what he really felt but not because his over-exaggerating things.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on April 06, 2023, 10:30:05 AM
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it. :)
If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

For sure, if you act more than you speak then it's reality and that's how fans wanted to see this fight, aiming to see more action than words it's okay to throw some trash words just to make sure you can support it with your actions.

Failure to do it will push fans to leave you and start ruining your career, better to keep enhancing
and making sure that you'll be able to delight your fans not just by words but with the entertainment
that they'll going to have when watching you fighting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Botnake on April 06, 2023, 11:26:13 AM
The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.
That's his style, and it's okay to see a boxer with that kind of trash-talking style. As you mentioned, he can back up his statements, which is one of the reasons why he is an exciting fighter to watch. Winning this fight shouldn't be difficult for Casimero, as his opponent is ranked low and not a well-known fighter. So, we can expect him to win. I'm more concerned about his future fights, especially his championship fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Yamifoud on April 06, 2023, 11:50:24 AM
The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.
That's his style, and it's okay to see a boxer with that kind of trash-talking style. As you mentioned, he can back up his statements, which is one of the reasons why he is an exciting fighter to watch. Winning this fight shouldn't be difficult for Casimero, as his opponent is ranked low and not a well-known fighter. So, we can expect him to win. I'm more concerned about his future fights, especially his championship fight.
In boxing, it's important to have your own style. If people take notice of you, it means your style is effective. It's a business, you need people to know you so they will be aware of your fights and potentially be interested in watching, whether it's to see you win or lose. At the very least, you will earn money from them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on April 06, 2023, 12:33:19 PM
When I first heard this, I was laughing because this seems like an inexperienced fighter with a good record in order to hype the fight. But at the same time, it is fine because I do not want to see Casimero becoming inactive if he is really serious about becoming a world champion again. And then I checked the 4 sanctioning bodies of boxing, the WBO is actually ranking Filipus Nghitumbwa as #10 which means this is an opportunity for Casimero to move up in rankings especially in the WBO if he is able to dispose of this Namibian in an impressive fashion.

So far Casimero is ranked WBO #5, WBC #8, and IBF #14. Nghitumbwa is WBO #10 and WBC #25. If all goes well, Casimero should be able to get his title shot next year for a chance to become a 4 division champion.

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 06, 2023, 12:49:55 PM

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

It would be better if Casimero faces the winner of that fight. If he wins, he can then face the winner of the Inoue vs. Fulton fight. That way, Casimero's wish to face Inoue for a unification belt will be granted. I really hope this happens as Casimero has missed out on many opportunities in his career and deserves a big fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: aioc on April 06, 2023, 01:30:51 PM


By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

I don't rule out the fight between Inoue and Casimero this year when they beat their respective fighters in dramatic and dominant ways, talks will resume about their rivalry, remember both fighters have heated arguments that Casimero started if only Casimero did not lose the title because of the weight issue.  
We are in the first quarter of the year and it will be profitable and good for both fighters' careers and the community as well if they will go for each other, some people think Casimero does not deserve to be Inoue's challenger how will this be for a three-division world champion and haven't loss big fights for the last five years.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 06, 2023, 02:46:53 PM

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

It would be better if Casimero faces the winner of that fight. If he wins, he can then face the winner of the Inoue vs. Fulton fight. That way, Casimero's wish to face Inoue for a unification belt will be granted. I really hope this happens as Casimero has missed out on many opportunities in his career and deserves a big fight.

Wow, if that will happen for sure, that will be the biggest dream fight Casimero will ever have in this new division. Just imagine
if Inoue will take Fulton and destiny direct both Inoue and Casimero inside the ring.

For sure, it will be what the fans will really love to see, those previous trash talks that didn't materialize due to the un-strip of Casimero's belt.

They will be able to continue that here if fate will allow them, adding to that maybe it's much exciting to see if both Inoue and Casimero
have the belts to unify it all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Vaculin on April 06, 2023, 05:35:25 PM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe

Yes, that came right from his mouth and hopefully that's true though because we all know that we wanted it ever since the both of them are still on their previous weight class. Anyway, let's tackle about that sometime in the future as that's not yet sure, what we have now in-front of us is the real deal and John Riel Casimero really needed this in his favor to lift his position in the ladder.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 06, 2023, 06:30:47 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?


I think that if you are going to list stats you might as well list the stats of both fighters so people can compare, don't you think?

Casimero stats:

Total fights   36
Wins                   32
Wins by KO   22
Losses           4

I have never heard of Nghitumbwa before and I would not bet on some no-name with a mediocre boxing record, especially when up against someone like Casimero, who has proven himself time and time again. I am going to be watching the match with interest and keeping an eye on the new guy though. He might have some potential if he actually wins this fight. Lets see what happens.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 06, 2023, 07:18:03 PM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Kasabus on April 06, 2023, 07:21:52 PM
OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe

Yes, that came right from his mouth and hopefully that's true though because we all know that we wanted it ever since the both of them are still on their previous weight class. Anyway, let's tackle about that sometime in the future as that's not yet sure, what we have now in-front of us is the real deal and John Riel Casimero really needed this in his favor to lift his position in the ladder.

Don't be deceived about that news as you guys have already knew that it is not yet sure that it will indeed happen this coming December of 2023. Both camps haven't released any statements regarding about that bout nor an article was released that it was actually rumored because both camps are starting their discussion behind closed doors.

We all know that both of them still have their own respective fights to finish and that means that both of them are still busy preparing for it, other than that, the fate of that fight is also relying on the outcome of their respective fights. So, my take is that it is safe to assume that there are no ongoing discussions on both camps.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 06, 2023, 09:01:25 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?


I think that if you are going to list stats you might as well list the stats of both fighters so people can compare, don't you think?

Casimero stats:

Total fights   36
Wins                   32
Wins by KO   22
Losses           4

I have never heard of Nghitumbwa before and I would not bet on some no-name with a mediocre boxing record, especially when up against someone like Casimero, who has proven himself time and time again. I am going to be watching the match with interest and keeping an eye on the new guy though. He might have some potential if he actually wins this fight. Lets see what happens.

Well, since you started on listing Casimero's stats. I'll finish it by listing Nghitumbwa's stats as well.

As per boxrec.com, Filipus Nghitumbwa aka Energy

Total Fights:      13
Wins:                12
Wins by KO:      11
KO rate:           84.62%
Losses:             1

Nghitumbwa might have a decent record but most of his fights are just fought locally where he will also face an unknown boxer like him and if we compare it to Casimero's records deeply, this unknown boxer doesn't have any exposures with good names in the industry and that is a huge plus for Casimero because aside from the experience, he also got the IQ needed to gain another advantage inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on April 06, 2023, 09:26:14 PM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

So this is a big fight for him and maybe he feel some pressure in the beginning because he wants to show his local fans his boxing skills.

Nevertheless, as he warm enough in the first couple of rounds, I'm expecting a old version of Casimero that is going to score a knockout or maybe the referee stopping the fight because he has put to much damage to Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: ultrloa on April 06, 2023, 10:54:50 PM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on April 07, 2023, 12:50:05 AM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: ultrloa on April 07, 2023, 10:33:10 AM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.

Inoue will became more higher to reach if he win against Fulton so Casimero really need to get a big wins coming from various top contender so that he became a relevant choice for Inoue's camp. But let's forget about Inoue for a while since for now their fight is seems impossible to happen and he need to focus on his training to get a good win against his K.O artist opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on April 07, 2023, 11:06:22 AM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: roslinpl on April 07, 2023, 12:12:16 PM
I don't rule out the fight between Inoue and Casimero this year when they beat their respective fighters in dramatic and dominant ways, talks will resume about their rivalry, remember both fighters have heated arguments that Casimero started if only Casimero did not lose the title because of the weight issue.  
We are in the first quarter of the year and it will be profitable and good for both fighters' careers and the community as well if they will go for each other, some people think Casimero does not deserve to be Inoue's challenger how will this be for a three-division world champion and haven't loss big fights for the last five years.

Casimero had own set of rules in his game. He do whatever he feels comfortable to win, sometimes he used his own strategy to win the opponent. The strategy of Casimero was fight till the enemy accepts his victory. Most probably Casimero do the stamina based fight, if the opponent loss his stamina. Then he will not ready to the reverse punch. So the opponent lose his all stamina and start to admits him to loss.Now we are in first quarter of the year,most of funds will be move to crypto currency field. Casimero doesn’t have any loss of match in recent years. So this will be the best opportunity for him to make some good win from their investment. The match between Casimero and Nghitumbwa is not an equal match. Most of the gamblers here will know, the Winner of this game is Casimero and not Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kelvinid on April 07, 2023, 12:57:18 PM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.
We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 07, 2023, 01:06:15 PM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.
We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

He just need to keep fighting each time there's a schedule fight for him, from that he might attract or gain
the interest of every potential promoter to bring him to a good matchup.

Nothing that he can do about that as he moves to this new division without holding any belt, so there's no way for him to get any privilege

Just enjoy the upcoming fight and wait for the next one..


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fatunad on April 07, 2023, 01:28:15 PM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.
We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

He just need to keep fighting each time there's a schedule fight for him, from that he might attract or gain
the interest of every potential promoter to bring him to a good matchup.

Nothing that he can do about that as he moves to this new division without holding any belt, so there's no way for him to get any privilege

Just enjoy the upcoming fight and wait for the next one..
As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yatsan on April 07, 2023, 02:33:07 PM
Nghitumbwabis the underdog in this match up. If it is just stats and experience, Riel Casimero has the advantage for sure. But what seems to be interesting is their fighting strategies wherein both are not knockout machines and both prefer taking time to secure the win. I wouldn't personally bet on this one 'coz I am not really familiar with Casimero's opponent aside from his win-loss record. But this is just to give my insight with this match up. Both are orthodox boxers which is what we often see. Most likely, the outcome would be through unanimous decision given that none of them are really agressive inside the ring, unless changes would be made. Would still be a mtch up which is interesting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: molsewid on April 07, 2023, 02:44:22 PM

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.
I agree to you mate, for it doesn't really matter if he will go against not so well-known boxer if he really wants to improve his record and also widen his experience, as what we can see Casimero's opponent has a lot of potential he has a good number of KO and doesn't have any loses. Maybe he is not yet known very well in this place but soon enough after this match whether he will win or he will lose he will get the attention of other promoters .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 07, 2023, 05:09:57 PM
@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

I agree, and if he loses, it will have a much worse outcome for Casimero as well... But I also think that for the new guy, Nghitumbwa, if he wins he will have an amazing opportunity to gain the interest of some big name promoters but if he loses, then that might be able to put a damper on his career although perhaps it is a win win situation for him because he has nothing much to lose, unlike Casimero. If Casimero loses against a no-name thats pretty much a death sentence to him ever getting the attention of Inoue's promoter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 07, 2023, 05:23:14 PM
Nghitumbwabis the underdog in this match up. If it is just stats and experience, Riel Casimero has the advantage for sure. But what seems to be interesting is their fighting strategies wherein both are not knockout machines and both prefer taking time to secure the win. I wouldn't personally bet on this one 'coz I am not really familiar with Casimero's opponent aside from his win-loss record. But this is just to give my insight with this match up. Both are orthodox boxers which is what we often see. Most likely, the outcome would be through unanimous decision given that none of them are really agressive inside the ring, unless changes would be made. Would still be a mtch up which is interesting.

I seldom speculated a fight to not reach the distance but with this fight, I'm putting my money that this fight will not reach seven rounds. Casimero will go all out here to impress his fans and promoter and putting this opponent to sleep is the target which is very possible because of his opponent's lack of experience.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Finestream on April 07, 2023, 06:45:26 PM
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.
Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: goinmerry on April 07, 2023, 11:59:01 PM
Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I have to agree that even Casimero is a trash-talker, he can backed it on the actual fight. Unlike other boxers that just pure of talks.

I don't see though that this fight will be an easy win to Casimero but at least he should win by 90%.

Casimero faces already a much ranked boxer compare to his upcoming opponent. He should not have a big problem here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: btc_angela on April 08, 2023, 03:39:40 AM
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.
Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 08, 2023, 09:20:42 PM

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.
I agree to you mate, for it doesn't really matter if he will go against not so well-known boxer if he really wants to improve his record and also widen his experience, as what we can see Casimero's opponent has a lot of potential he has a good number of KO and doesn't have any loses. Maybe he is not yet known very well in this place but soon enough after this match whether he will win or he will lose he will get the attention of other promoters .

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 08, 2023, 09:40:24 PM
And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.
No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.
Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on April 08, 2023, 09:52:32 PM
^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 08, 2023, 09:56:02 PM
I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

Casimero used to be a not trash talker but he find out that his career is getting dulled and boring until he discovered that showboating and trashtalking caters the interest and attention of fans.  So he decided to be a trash talker just for the sake of getting the interests and curiosity of the viewers and it did make him sensational in some point of his career until he got a problem in meeting his weight limit and got stripped of the title.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

I agree, Casimero has a good heart, his trashtalking and showboating is just for an act to give fans entertainment and at the same time boost his incoming fights. 

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

No matter who his opponent is, what important is that he can give his best performance for the fight.  He needs it especially when he is starting from a scratch in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: sunsilk on April 08, 2023, 10:08:34 PM
^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.
That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Silberman on April 09, 2023, 02:27:05 AM
I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.
If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3)
Post by: Pamadar on April 09, 2023, 05:30:02 AM
I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.
If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.

That's something relevant to what happened, I agree that each fighters are also investing time with how they will going to create a good strategy to beat their opponents.

And Yes, it almost happened if only Casimero manage to stay in his weight and secure a win with Butler,
that next fight should be against Inoue, a good money fight that might bring huge numbers of sales and sponsorship
if both are still have belts to risk during the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 09, 2023, 09:09:48 AM
No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.
Yeah Casimero is nothing at super bantamweight division, he need to fight at least 2-3 and it should be at top 10 boxers in super bantamweight division, so he can take a challenge with top 3 or 4 for interim belt.

We still don't know what's the next path Casimero will do if he win this fight, some boxers sometime tend to move to the next weight or lower his weight without any clear reason. If he think super bantamweight is too much for him, he may back to bantamweight again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 09, 2023, 12:13:11 PM
^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.
That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 09, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation  :).

There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.

https://i.imgur.com/pIegIKI.png
ctto


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: sunsilk on April 09, 2023, 01:06:56 PM
^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.
That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.
He wouldn't be that confident to talk trash to his opponent if he has got no big tool to show. But then, he is serious with it and that is why he can just anything he wants to say.

Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation  :).

There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.

https://i.imgur.com/pIegIKI.png
ctto
This is good to know that they are training in the same gym. Both will give each of their own opinions to their respective fights or experiences or situations.

Or just the typical casual talks that isn't really new to both of them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on April 09, 2023, 11:49:00 PM
And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: goinmerry on April 09, 2023, 11:58:27 PM
Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.

For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.

Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Viscore on April 10, 2023, 08:09:48 AM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.
We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).
I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fredomago on April 10, 2023, 12:24:54 PM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.
We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).
I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.

Might be a stepping stair for him to bring his name on top, with a good expectation from him to win the fight. Maybe knocking his opponent down will surely help to hype his name. He can't do nothing or demand to anything as he doesn't have anything to offer. His name is new to this division and, aside from getting the attention of good promoters, he also needs to work his way to be noticed by the organization.

We all know that this sport is also a business and if it's good for the business, it's always possible to do something to bring profits.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Maslate on April 10, 2023, 01:31:14 PM
And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: molsewid on April 10, 2023, 04:30:53 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

We really don't know what will happen mate, maybe it will be the opposite way? Casimero will win instead of Nghitumbwa, there are endless possibilities though the matches of Casimero's opponent is. not yet known to the public but we can erase the fact that he is also a good boxer with  years of experienced. This will be very interesting fight, one will get his name in the lime light again or one will get the spotlight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: yazher on April 10, 2023, 05:11:02 PM
A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.
For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.
Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

That's right he also needs to control his emotions when he is with the media because they can actually manipulate his statement whenever they want. He needs to focus on the fight first and also not be carried away when he wins it because whenever he wins a fight, he seems comfortable trash-talking anyone, and mostly his words are not suitable for his current state of fame. because the fans seem taking it badly from him especially those who don't want to see him at the top.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 10, 2023, 05:26:41 PM
A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.

There is no other reason why Casimero trashtalk his opponent but to put more hype and interest to his upcoming fight.  Hopefully it is effective in getting the attention of viewers.

For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.

Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

That is what I like wit Casimero, he walk the talk.  If ever he trashtalk his opponent, he make sure that he can prove that he has the right to trashtalk.  Though I agree that he needs limitation but I think it is somehow hard since the trashtalk to be successful it needs to be personal.



That's right he also needs to control his emotions when he is with the media because they can actually manipulate his statement whenever they want. He needs to focus on the fight first and also not be carried away when he wins it because whenever he wins a fight, he seems comfortable trash-talking anyone, and mostly his words are not suitable for his current state of fame. because the fans seem taking it badly from him especially those who don't want to see him at the top.

I believe Casimero knows what he is doing when it comes to trastalking.  If ever you noticed, Casimero is either angry or irritated when he trashtalk but rather he is grinning as sign of provocation.  With that, I think Casimero is in control of his emotion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 10, 2023, 07:06:18 PM
No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.
Yeah Casimero is nothing at super bantamweight division, he need to fight at least 2-3 and it should be at top 10 boxers in super bantamweight division, so he can take a challenge with top 3 or 4 for interim belt.

We still don't know what's the next path Casimero will do if he win this fight, some boxers sometime tend to move to the next weight or lower his weight without any clear reason. If he think super bantamweight is too much for him, he may back to bantamweight again.

That is the goal for now, first is defeat Nghitumbwa for a clear reason because he is blocking the way towards the upper bracket and then after that, Casimero should at least fight another opponent before this year of 2023 ends. He still got a lot of time to rest after this bout as this is scheduled in May, so after 2-3 months of rest while considering that he's not that seriously damaged on this bout, he should fight another opponent for a year ender so that he can improve his standing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 10, 2023, 09:39:22 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: serjent05 on April 10, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

We might think that Nghitumbwa is not a dangerous opponent for Casimero but just like what @harizen stated, a boxer can be KO'ed anytime if a lucky punch hit him.  Lucky punch is considered a  heavy punch that can renders the opponent unable to continue the fight.  Nghitumbwa has an impressive KO record, whether it is his neighbor or households that got KO'ed by him, it is obvious that Nghitumbwa  punches have stings.

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

Obviously, if the training is light, we can see how relaxed a boxer is but if it is intensive training, we can see how serious their faces is.  After all a person's facial expression depends on how hard the activity is.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 10, 2023, 10:51:13 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight.  

We might think that Nghitumbwa is not a dangerous opponent for Casimero but just like what @harizen stated, a boxer can be KO'ed anytime if a lucky punch hit him.  Lucky punch is considered a  heavy punch that can renders the opponent unable to continue the fight.  Nghitumbwa has an impressive KO record, whether it is his neighbor or households that got KO'ed by him, it is obvious that Nghitumbwa  punches have stings.

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

Obviously, if the training is light, we can see how relaxed a boxer is but if it is intensive training, we can see how serious their faces is.  After all a person's facial expression depends on how hard the activity is.

if Casimero's camp won't have a well-prepared training plan, even if his opponent doesn't have big name yet, he can easily lose this fight. as with his current standing, he should take every fight seriously as he needs to grind again to revive his popularity and to get at least a belt under his name.
when it comes to vlogs, we are not seeing their 24/7 preparation. so i won't judge them too quickly. he may be showing a different side as compared to what is their real prep. casimero is in his home turf, so i don't know anymore reasons if he failed this bid.
if he will lose this again, maybe, time to re-assess his priorities when it comes to boxing career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: danherbias07 on April 10, 2023, 10:51:31 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.
As I said before, it will be the experience that will give Casimero the upper hand in this fight.
Some boxers can be rattled the first they are around big lights and this is where Casimero should take advantage with. The time while Nghitumbwa is still getting used to the big crowd.

It's true his camp is relaxed but I don't see him being lazy about his training, that truly is a good sign for the upcoming fight, but I do wonder if they are also going to use the same strategy as they did with Tete.
I just realized now that there's also a title on the line. WBO Global Super Bantamweight is being held by Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Mahanton on April 10, 2023, 11:32:57 PM
For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.
As I said before, it will be the experience that will give Casimero the upper hand in this fight.
Some boxers can be rattled the first they are around big lights and this is where Casimero should take advantage with. The time while Nghitumbwa is still getting used to the big crowd.

It's true his camp is relaxed but I don't see him being lazy about his training, that truly is a good sign for the upcoming fight, but I do wonder if they are also going to use the same strategy as they did with Tete.
I just realized now that there's also a title on the line. WBO Global Super Bantamweight is being held by Nghitumbwa.
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on April 10, 2023, 11:50:01 PM
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Surely Casimero isn't the type of boxer that always feels confident in an actual fight. As much as possible, he's even trying to pulverize his opponent as much as he can. Regardless if Nghitumbwa is known or not, Casimero will have the same approach which is to take down his opponent and win in a convincing way.

Casimero is currently on the goal of climbing the rankings in order to be included again in the contender's discussion.

That's the reason why he needs to aggressively KO every one of his opponents, to be recognized.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: goinmerry on April 10, 2023, 11:59:43 PM
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Natalim on April 11, 2023, 10:45:44 AM
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

I see this fight the same way. Nghitumbwa should be a great matchup for him if he goes toe to toe. Nghitumbwa is a knockout artist himself, which means he relies on his power a lot to win. This also means he'll be an aggressive fighter, something we haven't seen in Casimero's opponents in a while.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Taskford on April 11, 2023, 11:03:02 AM
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

I see this fight the same way. Nghitumbwa should be a great matchup for him if he goes toe to toe. Nghitumbwa is a knockout artist himself, which means he relies on his power a lot to win. This also means he'll be an aggressive fighter, something we haven't seen in Casimero's opponents in a while.

Not a good idea to fight toe to toe with a knockout artist since he might be in danger to get hit by solid punch of Nghitumbwa. He should out smart his opponent since if he play cool and take Nghitumbwa easy maybe he will get a problem if this fighter step up then totally dominate him on their match. Casimero need to finish this fight as early as he can so that he can get an impressive win which is totally needed by him.

He need to win this fight because this can catch some attention of promoters and fans to make him relevant on the fight he want to get.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 11, 2023, 12:21:42 PM
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

I see this fight the same way. Nghitumbwa should be a great matchup for him if he goes toe to toe. Nghitumbwa is a knockout artist himself, which means he relies on his power a lot to win. This also means he'll be an aggressive fighter, something we haven't seen in Casimero's opponents in a while.

Not a good idea to fight toe to toe with a knockout artist since he might be in danger to get hit by solid punch of Nghitumbwa. He should out smart his opponent since if he play cool and take Nghitumbwa easy maybe he will get a problem if this fighter step up then totally dominate him on their match. Casimero need to finish this fight as early as he can so that he can get an impressive win which is totally needed by him.

He need to win this fight because this can catch some attention of promoters and fans to make him relevant on the fight he want to get.

Casimero's camp needs to plan this fight, with his usual strategy to observe his opponent first before deciding to go all in,
something that may surprise Nghitumbwa.

But like what you have said, it's also dangerous if he will go toe-to-toe against a known solid puncher. One mistake and a solid combination hit
him chance that he may lose his balance or chance that he may suffer a KO.

It will test his maturity and how well he will analyze and take his opponent. He needs to win with a convincing and entertaining
way to impress the fans and the whole boxing community to earn a ticket for a much bigger fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on April 11, 2023, 01:03:26 PM

Casimero's camp needs to plan this fight, with his usual strategy to observe his opponent first before deciding to go all in,
something that may surprise Nghitumbwa.
It would not surprise me if Inoue studies how Casimero fights. I would only be surprised if he does not follow the game plan, as Casimero is good at sticking to his game plan and making sure he comes out as the winner in the end.

But like what you have said, it's also dangerous if he will go toe-to-toe against a known solid puncher. One mistake and a solid combination hit
him chance that he may lose his balance or chance that he may suffer a KO.

It will test his maturity and how well he will analyze and take his opponent. He needs to win with a convincing and entertaining
way to impress the fans and the whole boxing community to earn a ticket for a much bigger fight.

As a professional boxer and a champion, Casimero already knows the risks involved in a fight, and he will not engage in a toe-to-toe battle if he feels the power of his opponent and thinks that he needs to respect it. In that case, he will make adjustments and use his quickness to gain the advantage.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Mahanton on April 11, 2023, 09:41:54 PM
Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

I see this fight the same way. Nghitumbwa should be a great matchup for him if he goes toe to toe. Nghitumbwa is a knockout artist himself, which means he relies on his power a lot to win. This also means he'll be an aggressive fighter, something we haven't seen in Casimero's opponents in a while.

Not a good idea to fight toe to toe with a knockout artist since he might be in danger to get hit by solid punch of Nghitumbwa. He should out smart his opponent since if he play cool and take Nghitumbwa easy maybe he will get a problem if this fighter step up then totally dominate him on their match. Casimero need to finish this fight as early as he can so that he can get an impressive win which is totally needed by him.

He need to win this fight because this can catch some attention of promoters and fans to make him relevant on the fight he want to get.

Casimero's camp needs to plan this fight, with his usual strategy to observe his opponent first before deciding to go all in,
something that may surprise Nghitumbwa.

But like what you have said, it's also dangerous if he will go toe-to-toe against a known solid puncher. One mistake and a solid combination hit
him chance that he may lose his balance or chance that he may suffer a KO.

It will test his maturity and how well he will analyze and take his opponent. He needs to win with a convincing and entertaining
way to impress the fans and the whole boxing community to earn a ticket for a much bigger fight.
Getting the pace and trying out to observe on 1st round is something a very common or normal for a boxer to do on which trying out to observe on what his stance and trying out to cope up if ever they would
be dominated on a certain key area.Its been mentioned that Nghitumbwa is a knock out artist? For sure Casimero's camp is fully aware to that and might really already
preparing for some nasty counter if ever there would be a chance on having those crossing punches but of course we cant really be able to
conclude out but its true that if Casimero would lost into this one then it would be more hard for him to reach up and take some fight against Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 12, 2023, 12:06:07 PM

Getting the pace and trying out to observe on 1st round is something a very common or normal for a boxer to do on which trying out to observe on what his stance and trying out to cope up if ever they would
be dominated on a certain key area.Its been mentioned that Nghitumbwa is a knock out artist? For sure Casimero's camp is fully aware to that and might really already
preparing for some nasty counter if ever there would be a chance on having those crossing punches but of course we cant really be able to
conclude out but its true that if Casimero would lost into this one then it would be more hard for him to reach up and take some fight against Inoue.

The essence of preparing for the fight is what both camps are dealing with right now. They both try to analyze and assess
if what kind of counter and attack that they need to apply during the fight.

I see your point where Casimero and his camp deal with how they can beat their opponents. They need not to careless here.

The actual executions of any preparation will be showcase on the fight sate, let see how good both fighters will going to be in trying
to win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on April 12, 2023, 12:25:19 PM

Getting the pace and trying out to observe on 1st round is something a very common or normal for a boxer to do on which trying out to observe on what his stance and trying out to cope up if ever they would
be dominated on a certain key area.Its been mentioned that Nghitumbwa is a knock out artist? For sure Casimero's camp is fully aware to that and might really already
preparing for some nasty counter if ever there would be a chance on having those crossing punches but of course we cant really be able to
conclude out but its true that if Casimero would lost into this one then it would be more hard for him to reach up and take some fight against Inoue.

The essence of preparing for the fight is what both camps are dealing with right now. They both try to analyze and assess
if what kind of counter and attack that they need to apply during the fight.

I see your point where Casimero and his camp deal with how they can beat their opponents. They need not to careless here.

The actual executions of any preparation will be showcase on the fight sate, let see how good both fighters will going to be in trying
to win the fight.

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 13, 2023, 02:23:13 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Dave1 on April 13, 2023, 02:32:02 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.

Let's see, I'm expecting that Nghitumbwa might give Casimero a good fight in the early part of the fight, maybe 1-3 rounds and then Casimero taking over and potentially knockout him out in the middle rounds.

And with that, I do agree that I'm also interested on Casimero, against Akaho we see some of his power. However, Akaho was not a game opponent and just quit because he is afraid of the power of Casimero. But this time, I'm expecting Casimero to blast him with and score a knockout win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Silberman on April 13, 2023, 04:10:43 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Botnake on April 13, 2023, 08:14:12 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 13, 2023, 11:28:58 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.

That can be used as a good motivation to find the right strategy to win against Casimero, most of the time an underdog fighter
find this inspiration to do everything in trying to win the fight.

If he will upset Casimero, which I doubt, as he also needed the win, but giving that possibility Nghitumbwa will receive attention and can
be the spark for his career.

We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 13, 2023, 11:31:03 AM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.
Whatever strategy Nghitumbwa chooses to use, it is his choice. However, he needs to understand that he is facing an ex-champion who has not lost in a championship fight in an action-packed fight when he became popular. Casimero is not an easy opponent, and this is a special fight for Nghitumbwa as Casimero is a world-class boxer while he is still trying to become one.
Usually though this type of fighters are going all in if they are going to face a banger like Casimero. So I will assume that Nghitumbwa wil not play soft in this fight. And we try his best to go toe to toe with Casimero and test the champion if he can take his power and vice versa.

But the problem with fighters who go on this route are going to be knockout out being knock down. So it's just a matter on what he will take the power of Casimero. If he taste and knows that he can take it then it's going to be war.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Sanitough on April 13, 2023, 11:37:17 AM
We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Vaculin on April 13, 2023, 01:52:06 PM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kasabus on April 13, 2023, 07:06:34 PM
We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 13, 2023, 09:02:29 PM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.

Well, if that's the only way that Nghitumbwa's camp sees just to defeat Casimero then they should do it because either way, they need to show their skills and try to give the former champion a hard time because looking at his records, it's not that believable that his power is in par with Casimero as he's just an unknown boxer who and more like a local boxer who doesn't have any good experience at all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 13, 2023, 11:22:34 PM
We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.

would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 13, 2023, 11:24:57 PM

I have no expectations from Casimero's opponent because he is an unknown fighter, but I am more interested in how Casimero will deliver an impressive win. However, as you said, Casimero should not be careless and underestimate his opponent. If the result is not in his favor, it could potentially affect his future journey. Remember that he wants to be a champion again, and the only way for that to happen is if he keeps winning fights.

That's true, but let's hope that Nghitumbwa will not be a different fighter in the ring. His records indicate that he is an aggressive fighter, but sometimes boxers change their style when they face a superior opponent. This fight is going to be entertaining, and we are expecting to see Casimero face a challenging fight. So, Nghitumbwa better live up to that challenge.
I hope he does not change his style radically, after all the moment he does he is already admitting that he cannot beat his opponent with his main style and strength, and if that is the case then how can he expect to beat Casimero if he will need to use a completely different strategy than what he usually uses? Now some minor adjustments are fine, but a radical adjustment spells doom for most boxers, no matter how skilled and talented they are.

Speaking about chances, radical change in techniques and style will unlikely give any good outcome in a match or fight because it requires patience and time to master those changes that are made prior the fight and looking at the time Nghitumbwa has, he definitely don't have that much time especially against Casimero. But we never know because we are just speaking about chances, I think we should see the outcome first because Nghitumbwa's camp won't be that confident enough if it doesn't work.

Well, if that's the only way that Nghitumbwa's camp sees just to defeat Casimero then they should do it because either way, they need to show their skills and try to give the former champion a hard time because looking at his records, it's not that believable that his power is in par with Casimero as he's just an unknown boxer who and more like a local boxer who doesn't have any good experience at all.
Trying to compare out the stats then its no brainer on whose the ones who do have the upperhand when it comes to experience which we know that Casimero is and now its been tried out to box a certain boxer who do have overall 12 matches but surprisingly his KO win rate is really that big which means that this guy is a heavy puncher which its something not to be that confident on but just like on what most been anticipating
that this wont really be that much of an issue considering that experience is too wide gap plus casimero is also a power puncher too. Who would bet out on how long or many rounds does
Nghitumbwa would last out?  :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yamifoud on April 14, 2023, 02:48:48 AM
would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.
It won't be interesting for him because promoters will lose interest in him. If Casimero loses against an unknown fighter, it would be a major upset in the sport of boxing, and it would be challenging for him to regain his championship title. Boxing is a highly competitive world, and rewards are reserved for those who perform well and do not lose crucial fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 14, 2023, 09:13:01 AM
would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.
It won't be interesting for him because promoters will lose interest in him. If Casimero loses against an unknown fighter, it would be a major upset in the sport of boxing, and it would be challenging for him to regain his championship title. Boxing is a highly competitive world, and rewards are reserved for those who perform well and do not lose crucial fights.

He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 14, 2023, 12:23:49 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Shamm on April 14, 2023, 01:59:15 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



This must be what casimero should do He must win every his fight in order to fight again for championships all he need to do now is his name must back in the top. And once he do that then for sure he has a chance to be given the opportunity to fight the current champion. About inoue and quadro alas one thing for sure it would be in the long run to fight each other cause we all know that inuoe is already in the top and quadro alas need to stand up again so that he can fight inoue .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Vaculin on April 14, 2023, 03:43:33 PM
We never know what will be the outcome we are all expecting from how we speculate the possible outcome.
But it's easy to predict the winner of this fight because the opponent of Casimero is not on his level if we base it on the books.

This would just be a tune-up fight for him, not a big threat that could ruin his career. I'm sure Casimero will not allow that as he will continue to train and make a headline with an impressive win.

People need to view him as a top-level fighter, so eventually, he will get a championship fight in this new division.

I bet he will, maybe next year because there's no hurdle or a stumbling block on his career now like what he have in his previous weight class where almost every fights are not yet sure to push through because his own body is the main problem as it is limiting him to make more fights.

Against this unknown fighter, I got no doubts that he will have a hard time but I sure do hope that he will have an interesting fight as a preparation before he faces the champion of this division. Nevertheless, John Riel Casimero will dominate this fight.

would be interesting if in case casimero will lose this fight. don't know how he will face his fans if he lose to unfamiliar name in boxing. the record actually of his opponent is not bad. so they should not take that for granted. as his opponent has very good reason to beat him, they will for sure do a rigid training. so let's talk after this bout is finished. if casimero wins, good. but if not, maybe time to change his career.

If we're talking about local fights, then that record is indeed not bad at all but we are not talking about the international ring where big boys are fighting for their name and glory. Not to underestimate this unknown boxer but it's best for him to prove what he got first because people aren't really interested with boxers with a records like that.

Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: mirakal on April 14, 2023, 06:35:25 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: molsewid on April 15, 2023, 12:29:20 PM
Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

Hmm actually based on stats Nghitumbwa has a good stats as well even though he is not well known, I've seen his stats somewhere I forget most of his games  are KO, this will be an interesting one for me, it will be few weeks from now. I will surely find some clips of their training it would be very interesting and it might change my bet i think.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Shamm on April 15, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

Hmm actually based on stats Nghitumbwa has a good stats as well even though he is not well known, I've seen his stats somewhere I forget most of his games  are KO, this will be an interesting one for me, it will be few weeks from now. I will surely find some clips of their training it would be very interesting and it might change my bet i think.
Yes if we based on the stats we  will  know that nghitumbwa have a very good stats and also he has 22 wins and 1 losses which is 11 out of 12 win by Knockout which is pretty good enough to face against cashmere that have 32 wins and 4 losses and 22 out of 32 win by knockout so for this fight both fighter can give us a good and close fight. But for me ill support my fellow countrymen casimero to win the game.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 15, 2023, 08:57:38 PM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on April 15, 2023, 09:23:49 PM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.

He will be back to zero at this weight class and will have a difficult time to get a chance to crack or get a title shot. That's why eventhough his opponent is not known, he still needs to win this and as we have been saying, he should knockout this guy to send a message to his opponent and the governing body that he is ripe for another chance to fight for a world title again.

Chances though are slim for Casimero to lose fight, it will be in his hometown and so it will give him energy to show a good fight for his fans in the Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 15, 2023, 09:38:20 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



Well, he doesn't have much of a choice because he could've been more comfortable now if his weight weren't an issue in his previous weight class. Anyway, a defeat is the least thing that Casimero and his camp needed because that will surely mean that his career will go down drastically especially after the fact that he was just defeated by a regular boxer who is so unknown that most of the boxers in the industry don't know about him. What he need is a kind of fight that will help him prepare against the champs yet a secure one while he's still in the lower bracket so that the chance of getting a defeat is lesser.

A defeat at this stage of his career could mean the end of his colorful journey in the boxing world, I mean the promoter's interest in him will be gone if he will be defeated by an unknown boxer but that scenario is a very slim possibility though that might happen but i think this time it won't because like I said above, this is just a tune-up or a "keep busy" fight before going for a belt.

On the promoter's side, i think they are milking Casimero as he is one of the most popular boxers in the Philippines at the moment, though this is not a big fight but at least they could profit through sponsorships and VIP tickets.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on April 15, 2023, 09:48:37 PM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.

He will be back to zero at this weight class and will have a difficult time to get a chance to crack or get a title shot. That's why eventhough his opponent is not known, he still needs to win this and as we have been saying, he should knockout this guy to send a message to his opponent and the governing body that he is ripe for another chance to fight for a world title again.

Chances though are slim for Casimero to lose fight, it will be in his hometown and so it will give him energy to show a good fight for his fans in the Philippines.
This is like a tune-up fight for Casimero but knowing that Nghitumbwa is also ranked by 2 of the 4 sanctioning bodies means that this is a good opportunity for him to increase his ranks further. Maybe the WBO will put Casimero in the top 5 if he wins impressively. If Casimero cannot get a title shot after this then he should try to face fighters like Akhmadaliev or the loser of Inoue vs Fulton and other highly ranked fighters.

But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 15, 2023, 10:15:10 PM
But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

This would be interesting but i think this won't happen as i think those sanctioning bodies (IBF and WBA) won't allow a lower rank boxer fight their champion unless there's big money involved or at least a connection to the politicking bodies of this boxing politics hehe.

If only Casimero is still with MP Promotions i think this will happen but on the other hand, let this be Marlon Tapalez' ticket to a big money fight as this would be the biggest purse he would receive if ever he will be on the other end of the unification bout of this super bantamweight title.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: aioc on April 15, 2023, 10:54:04 PM
But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

This would be interesting but i think this won't happen as i think those sanctioning bodies (IBF and WBA) won't allow a lower rank boxer fight their champion unless there's big money involved or at least a connection to the politicking bodies of this boxing politics hehe.

If only Casimero is still with MP Promotions i think this will happen but on the other hand, let this be Marlon Tapalez' ticket to a big money fight as this would be the biggest purse he would receive if ever he will be on the other end of the unification bout of this super bantamweight title.

The Tapales - Casimero is possible and can happen and it usually happens because of unforeseen circumstances, Casimero may be of a lower rank but if there is a match between Tapales and a higher rank fighter and the other fighter can not fight because of an injury, they could give the fight to a fighter coming from a win and a former champion, this is what happens to Manny Pacquiao when Ledwaba's original opponent cannot make it so they got Pacquiao even though he is not in top 5 but they consider his being a former champion.
Former champions will always get their attention especially if that former champion is still winning.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: lionheart78 on April 15, 2023, 11:03:08 PM
But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

This is very interesting but I would rather see Casimero having a title shot to whoever the winner of the fight between Inoue and Fulton.  I would love to see Casimero vs Tapales in a unification fight for the undisputed champion of the super bantamweight title unifying all the belts.

If the fight happens, the way I see how Tapales fight, I think Casimero has the advantage.  I feel that Casimero has the punches and tenacity, skills, and move to beat Tapales.  Tapales' wins against the former champion is not impressive btw.  I had the former champion winning but it is what it is, the two judges who favored Tapales may saw something that I don't.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Silberman on April 16, 2023, 03:37:26 AM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.
It is incredible how the career of a boxer can change so quickly, and what makes this even weirder is that Casimero is in this situation not by losing a few fights in a row but simply because of his own choices outside the ring, and a defeat now will without a doubt cause him such a setback that it is difficult to believe he will be able to recover, fortunately for him he is still a talented boxer and I think he has what is needed to get the win this time around.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fredomago on April 16, 2023, 11:10:44 AM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.
It is incredible how the career of a boxer can change so quickly, and what makes this even weirder is that Casimero is in this situation not by losing a few fights in a row but simply because of his own choices outside the ring, and a defeat now will without a doubt cause him such a setback that it is difficult to believe he will be able to recover, fortunately for him he is still a talented boxer and I think he has what is needed to get the win this time around.

I believe that he still in the upper hand here as we know his capability and how the way he showcases his talent once he already inside the ring, but like what you have said he's not in this situation because of his choice and not because he failed to protect his belts during his days from the lower division, he went up to prove something and in order to achieve that goal he needs to keep winning and not just as simple win but to win it with a convincing way to hype him and to attract more promoters and fans to bring him to the place that will give him the opportunities to challenge the champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: freedomgo on April 16, 2023, 08:11:49 PM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.

He will be back to zero at this weight class and will have a difficult time to get a chance to crack or get a title shot. That's why eventhough his opponent is not known, he still needs to win this and as we have been saying, he should knockout this guy to send a message to his opponent and the governing body that he is ripe for another chance to fight for a world title again.

Chances though are slim for Casimero to lose fight, it will be in his hometown and so it will give him energy to show a good fight for his fans in the Philippines.
This is like a tune-up fight for Casimero but knowing that Nghitumbwa is also ranked by 2 of the 4 sanctioning bodies means that this is a good opportunity for him to increase his ranks further. Maybe the WBO will put Casimero in the top 5 if he wins impressively. If Casimero cannot get a title shot after this then he should try to face fighters like Akhmadaliev or the loser of Inoue vs Fulton and other highly ranked fighters.

But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

I don't think that Casimero will be facing a fellow Filipino on his first title shot in this division, there might be a chance but as you know, Marlon Tapales holds the IBF and WBA while Casimero is ranked higher at WBC compared to Tapales's belts where he does have to face the lower tier boxers again. I believe Casimero will pursue this WBC first because he already started his journey and a win in this fight will again improve his standing in the WBC's rankings and he could possibly face the interim title holders up next.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on April 16, 2023, 09:35:44 PM
But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

This is very interesting but I would rather see Casimero having a title shot to whoever the winner of the fight between Inoue and Fulton.  I would love to see Casimero vs Tapales in a unification fight for the undisputed champion of the super bantamweight title unifying all the belts.

If the fight happens, the way I see how Tapales fight, I think Casimero has the advantage.  I feel that Casimero has the punches and tenacity, skills, and move to beat Tapales.  Tapales' wins against the former champion is not impressive btw.  I had the former champion winning but it is what it is, the two judges who favored Tapales may saw something that I don't.
Yeah, I also hope that Casimero gets his title shot against the winner of Inoue-Fulton. Out of these 2 fighters, I like Casimero vs Inoue to settle the dust although I doubt Inoue feels that there is a rivalry between him and Casimero. The last time I checked the 4 sanctioning bodies' ranks, it was the WBO and the WBC that ranked Casimero inside the top 10, and Fulton now holds these belts.

The Philippines never had an undisputed champion during the 3-belt and now 4-belt era. Imagine if Casimero wins the WBO and WBC belts and then faces Tapales to complete all the belts. This will be the first time and a guaranteed undisputed champ from Ph. Meanwhile, Tapales mentioned Inoue as his most preferred opponent solidifying the assumption that an undisputed champion will soon come out. If ever Inoue becomes undisputed, he will become the first undisputed champ in 2 divisions in this 4-belt era. I am not even sure if there was a 2 division undisputed champion during the 3-belt era.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 17, 2023, 04:35:18 AM
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Now if Casimero will lose this one, there's no need for him to continue his career anymore as I think it's already safe to assume that he can't get big fights because he just lost this bout. Just in-case though.

I agree, a loss in this fight will definitely put a stain on Casimero's career and name, and I bet he will have a hard time having some future fights ahead of him if he will be defeated against an unknown boxer. If that happens, Nghitumbwa will be the one who will proceed as defeating Casimero will surely give a lot of attention including the fights.

Moreover, Casimero should just retire because he's not that young anymore to start at the bottom of the food chain again and nobody will be interested on fighting him anymore as fighting him won't give them the benefits that they wanted as Casimero will be just another somebody in the industry if that happens.

But on the bright side, I'm sure that John Riel Casimero won't let that happen.
It is incredible how the career of a boxer can change so quickly, and what makes this even weirder is that Casimero is in this situation not by losing a few fights in a row but simply because of his own choices outside the ring, and a defeat now will without a doubt cause him such a setback that it is difficult to believe he will be able to recover, fortunately for him he is still a talented boxer and I think he has what is needed to get the win this time around.

I believe that he still in the upper hand here as we know his capability and how the way he showcases his talent once he already inside the ring, but like what you have said he's not in this situation because of his choice and not because he failed to protect his belts during his days from the lower division, he went up to prove something and in order to achieve that goal he needs to keep winning and not just as simple win but to win it with a convincing way to hype him and to attract more promoters and fans to bring him to the place that will give him the opportunities to challenge the champion.


Yes, he was just unfortunate in his previous division because he caught a lot of obstacles that made his career more challenging. Good thing is that the issue was his weight and not his skills, so now that the issue were eliminated, I know Casimero will not rest until he can face the top dogs in this division. He pretty much knew that in this situation, he can't afford to make mistakes anymore especially that he is still transitioning and climbing through the ranks as a defeat will likely get him back square one again.

Looking forward in seeing him make a statement especially in this fight because he will be fighting with his fellow kababayans on his back as this fight will happen in Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 17, 2023, 05:09:40 PM
But imagine if Casimero's title shot will be against his friend, the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales? I wonder what will be the result if this happens.

This is very interesting but I would rather see Casimero having a title shot to whoever the winner of the fight between Inoue and Fulton.  I would love to see Casimero vs Tapales in a unification fight for the undisputed champion of the super bantamweight title unifying all the belts.

If the fight happens, the way I see how Tapales fight, I think Casimero has the advantage.  I feel that Casimero has the punches and tenacity, skills, and move to beat Tapales.  Tapales' wins against the former champion is not impressive btw.  I had the former champion winning but it is what it is, the two judges who favored Tapales may saw something that I don't.
Yeah, I also hope that Casimero gets his title shot against the winner of Inoue-Fulton. Out of these 2 fighters, I like Casimero vs Inoue to settle the dust although I doubt Inoue feels that there is a rivalry between him and Casimero. The last time I checked the 4 sanctioning bodies' ranks, it was the WBO and the WBC that ranked Casimero inside the top 10, and Fulton now holds these belts.

The Philippines never had an undisputed champion during the 3-belt and now 4-belt era. Imagine if Casimero wins the WBO and WBC belts and then faces Tapales to complete all the belts. This will be the first time and a guaranteed undisputed champ from Ph. Meanwhile, Tapales mentioned Inoue as his most preferred opponent solidifying the assumption that an undisputed champion will soon come out. If ever Inoue becomes undisputed, he will become the first undisputed champ in 2 divisions in this 4-belt era. I am not even sure if there was a 2 division undisputed champion during the 3-belt era.

I like the idea of having both pinoy fighters to fight over with all the belts, meaning to say that whoever wins will bring all the belts home.

Though I'm still doubting that the organization will give that access to Casimero since he doesn't have that high reputation in this division.

He needs to keep winning and needs to prove that he's a good contender for the belt before he can face whoever is the winner between Fulton and Inoue, considering that there's no rematch claw after the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Viscore on April 17, 2023, 05:28:24 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.


Well, I guess no worries for this upcoming fight since it’s already anticipated that Casimero will eventually beat his opponent inside the ring, but he should still prepare a massive training before the game so that he will surely win over his opponent. One thing is certain, if Casimero will win this match, the big promoters will certainly be eyeing for him for another impressive match, and hopefully it’s someone that is known and is equal to his potentials the next time he will be fighting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: serjent05 on April 17, 2023, 07:00:39 PM
Well, I guess no worries for this upcoming fight since it’s already anticipated that Casimero will eventually beat his opponent inside the ring, but he should still prepare a massive training before the game so that he will surely win over his opponent. One thing is certain, if Casimero will win this match, the big promoters will certainly be eyeing for him for another impressive match, and hopefully it’s someone that is known and is equal to his potentials the next time he will be fighting.

Regardless of how much advantage Casimero has over his opponent, he must not underestimate and should be more than prepared and conditioned for his upcoming fight.  Boxing history had recorded lots of Boxers that underestimate their opponent ends up either kissing the canvas or being outperformed by the underdog.  So Casimero must focus on his upcoming fight.  He can think of other boxers on the upper rank after he wins this upcoming fight. 

If you remember Tete, he was very confident when he fought Casimero, he thinks that he can easily beat Casimero so his mind is focused somewhere else.  And as a result of being distracted, Tete was KO'ed by Casimero in the early round.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 17, 2023, 07:26:52 PM
He needs to secure this win if he really wanted to create his name in this new division, losing a fight to unknown fighter
will put his career in danger. I mean, if he will lose, then interest from big promoters will be lessened or possibly be forgotten.

Unlike if he will win and take this fight in a much easier as how fans expected him,
the chance of bringing him to a contender for a title holder is possible.

We don't know what might happen after this, but it's really important that Casimero will win every single fight that being scheduled for him.

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.


Well, I guess no worries for this upcoming fight since it’s already anticipated that Casimero will eventually beat his opponent inside the ring, but he should still prepare a massive training before the game so that he will surely win over his opponent. One thing is certain, if Casimero will win this match, the big promoters will certainly be eyeing for him for another impressive match, and hopefully it’s someone that is known and is equal to his potentials the next time he will be fighting.


He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Distinctin on April 18, 2023, 01:27:47 AM

He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.


Casimero never disappoints us every time he is in the ring. The only reason why he can't win by KO is that his opponents often quit early. Just like his previous fight, instead of going toe-to-toe, his opponent didn't want to take more beating and acted like he was punched illegally, resulting in a no contest. If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Natalim on April 18, 2023, 11:17:51 AM
If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.
Alternatively, we might see an upset if he truly possesses the legitimate power to defeat a former champion. It's a big challenge for him since people are underestimating him, and boxers like him have nothing to lose. However, if he is truly determined to win, that's when we may witness an upset. Who knows, he might even get an easy ticket to a championship fight by defeating Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: danherbias07 on April 18, 2023, 11:52:31 AM
If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.
Alternatively, we might see an upset if he truly possesses the legitimate power to defeat a former champion. It's a big challenge for him since people are underestimating him, and boxers like him have nothing to lose. However, if he is truly determined to win, that's when we may witness an upset. Who knows, he might even get an easy ticket to a championship fight by defeating Casimero.
And we could all say he truly earned it in a difficult way if he defeats Casimero and was able to buy his ticket for a championship fight.
He is underestimated in both the betting lines as a heavy underdog and in the media. I don't think he will win too as Casimero is eager enough to win this fight and claim back the respect that he wants and a position on the higher seeds that earns a chance for a title match.

This fight is near with just a month away and yet we don't see market boosters in social media. I had been trying to find some recent updates or training camps and other stuff but I cannot find one. I guess it won't be a much popular fight.
This is the only recent news that I bumped into.
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/498675/paras-to-fight-japanese-boxer-hanaba-in-casimero-nghitumbwa-undercard
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This developed as Vince Paras, a former world title challenger fighting under Sanman Boxing Gym, faces Japanese Hayumu Hanada in a 10-rounder non-title showdown in the undercard.
The bout is a fitting replacement for the Carl Jammes Martin - Jun Ikegawa bout which was cancelled after the former suffered injury in training.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 18, 2023, 02:48:12 PM
If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.
Alternatively, we might see an upset if he truly possesses the legitimate power to defeat a former champion. It's a big challenge for him since people are underestimating him, and boxers like him have nothing to lose. However, if he is truly determined to win, that's when we may witness an upset. Who knows, he might even get an easy ticket to a championship fight by defeating Casimero.
I don't know, but if Nghitumbwa is really a knockout artist base on his records, then he should really go and fight Casimero in the middle of the ring and see if he can knockout Casimero or if he is the one going to be knockout.

We don't want boxers like Casimero's last fight, that once he felt the power of Casimero, he made all excuses in the book to just take a dive on this fight. Hopefully Nghitumbwa is not that kind of boxer. Although he might feel the power, he will still go and fight Casimero hard so that we can see a entertaining fight and fans getting their money's worth.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: jakelyson on April 18, 2023, 06:23:15 PM

I got your point mate that for Casimero to fight for a championship, he needs to win all his fights before that and the good thing about his promoter right now is not forcing the issue, and seems to me that they are carefully selecting opponents to fight their ward and even though with that scenario, Casimero himself is not complaining since he earns substantial amount enough to have a not so lavish lifestyle.

Nothing has leaked so far as who will be next opponent of Quadro Alas but one thing is sure that it would not be Inoue.



I think as long as there will be money in certain fights like this John Riel Casimero will likely accept that and this is not about the money somehow the reputation of John Riel Casimero is on the line, if an upset would make then his career is likely over because Fillipus Nghitumbwa is an easy fight for Casimero, well I have seen an article or news that Nghitumbwa's fellow countrymen were forcing him not to fight Casimero because they said that John Riel Casimero is not a walk in the park, that this is a risk for Fillipus Nghitumbwa's career, I really don't know what is Fillipus Nghitumbwa promoter are thinking fitting Nghitumbwa on Casimero was too early,

This must be what casimero should do He must win every his fight in order to fight again for championships all he need to do now is his name must back in the top. And once he do that then for sure he has a chance to be given the opportunity to fight the current champion. About inoue and quadro alas one thing for sure it would be in the long run to fight each other cause we all know that inuoe is already in the top and quadro alas need to stand up again so that he can fight inoue .

Well, even though this is an easy fight for Casimero, all of the fights that he is likely to accept he must win and this is a fast track for him to get the title match he really wants, but the commissions would likely want to test him 1st if he learned are lessons, this is the hardship of John Riel Caseimero, he needs to fight in order to return what he lost, so getting back in his feet really required something, so he would surely need some easy fight like this gaining momentum,




Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Natalim on April 19, 2023, 11:47:06 AM

Well, even though this is an easy fight for Casimero, all of the fights that he is likely to accept he must win and this is a fast track for him to get the title match he really wants, but the commissions would likely want to test him 1st if he learned are lessons, this is the hardship of John Riel Caseimero, he needs to fight in order to return what he lost, so getting back in his feet really required something, so he would surely need some easy fight like this gaining momentum,
Of course, he is starting in a new division, so he needs to improve his ranking to become the top challenger for the champion. We say this will be an easy fight for Casimero, but what if he loses? Could it be the end of his career?

I'm not hoping that he will lose, but I see the possibility since his opponent is also a knockout artist. You know, anything can happen in the ring, especially when both fighters are KO artists.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yamifoud on April 19, 2023, 12:43:17 PM

Well, even though this is an easy fight for Casimero, all of the fights that he is likely to accept he must win and this is a fast track for him to get the title match he really wants, but the commissions would likely want to test him 1st if he learned are lessons, this is the hardship of John Riel Caseimero, he needs to fight in order to return what he lost, so getting back in his feet really required something, so he would surely need some easy fight like this gaining momentum,
Of course, he is starting in a new division, so he needs to improve his ranking to become the top challenger for the champion. We say this will be an easy fight for Casimero, but what if he loses? Could it be the end of his career?

I'm not hoping that he will lose, but I see the possibility since his opponent is also a knockout artist. You know, anything can happen in the ring, especially when both fighters are KO artists.

The chance of his opponent winning is very slim, as he is not a popular fighter. Casimero has fought boxers in the past who were relatively unknown in the boxing industry and he beat them all. However, this fight is different for Casimero, as he cannot afford to make any mistakes since his future is at stake.

If he loses, it would be difficult for him to get another opportunity to fight in a big match. Therefore, he needs to be very careful and ensure that he gives his best in the upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Silberman on April 20, 2023, 03:55:07 AM

Well, even though this is an easy fight for Casimero, all of the fights that he is likely to accept he must win and this is a fast track for him to get the title match he really wants, but the commissions would likely want to test him 1st if he learned are lessons, this is the hardship of John Riel Caseimero, he needs to fight in order to return what he lost, so getting back in his feet really required something, so he would surely need some easy fight like this gaining momentum,
Of course, he is starting in a new division, so he needs to improve his ranking to become the top challenger for the champion. We say this will be an easy fight for Casimero, but what if he loses? Could it be the end of his career?

I'm not hoping that he will lose, but I see the possibility since his opponent is also a knockout artist. You know, anything can happen in the ring, especially when both fighters are KO artists.
I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kelvinid on April 20, 2023, 07:16:01 AM
I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.

Let's trust him to get an impressive win in this fight. He knows what to do, and if he can beat opponents who are champions, then I guess Nghitumbwa is not going to be a problem for him. He is more than capable of scoring a knockout, and who knows, we might see him in a championship fight after this one. However, whatever happens next, what matters now is that he should not lose. One step at a time, and eventually, the right time will come.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on April 20, 2023, 07:20:31 AM
I hope this does not happen, as much as Casimero is at fault for the situation he is in, at the same time it would be a shame if his talent was buried by the series of circumstances which surrounded him, he needs to win this fight and do so with authority, and then try to look for a fight for the title or at least he needs to become an official challenger, as the longer he takes to get a fight for the title the harder it would be for him to get that chance.

Let's trust him to get an impressive win in this fight. He knows what to do, and if he can beat opponents who are champions, then I guess Nghitumbwa is not going to be a problem for him. He is more than capable of scoring a knockout, and who knows, we might see him in a championship fight after this one. However, whatever happens next, what matters now is that he should not lose. One step at a time, and eventually, the right time will come.

Yes, that is the only thing that can we do is to trust John Riel can he can still bang and shows his power against Nghitumbwa and beat him via knockout. This is the perfect time for him at this super bantamweight, so that he can improved his ranking this year and maybe he will be given the chance to fight again for the belt or at least face a name fighter in this division.

So I think Casimero is a win win situation and should not lose this fight. Because this is a big opportunity for him, specially for him to show his fans in the Philippines as what he is one of their best champion before and will do it again to become another belt holder in the super bantamweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on April 20, 2023, 07:31:25 AM

He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.


Casimero never disappoints us every time he is in the ring. The only reason why he can't win by KO is that his opponents often quit early. Just like his previous fight, instead of going toe-to-toe, his opponent didn't want to take more beating and acted like he was punched illegally, resulting in a no contest. If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2023, 07:40:56 AM

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Casimero is not very technical and relies heavily on his power. If he gets the timing right, then that's when he can win the fight. Against Rigo, he did not look good because he couldn't hit Rigo with solid shots due to Rigo's quickness. If Rigo was younger, I'm sure he would have gotten the win, although it would have been a boring one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: btc_angela on April 20, 2023, 09:03:16 AM

He needs to be impressive to attract more interest from the promoters. Even his opponent's is not that known fighter he
should still condition his body and train for the fight preparation.

I mean a kind of preparation same like when he's facing a decent fighter, he should treat every fight as an opportunity to bring the attention
of the fans, to help him hype his name inside this new division.


Casimero never disappoints us every time he is in the ring. The only reason why he can't win by KO is that his opponents often quit early. Just like his previous fight, instead of going toe-to-toe, his opponent didn't want to take more beating and acted like he was punched illegally, resulting in a no contest. If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.

I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

He should be training 100% in this fight, this is another do or die for him, if he lost this, it's going to be a big blow as he has a new Japanese manager and obviously his rank will go down and hard to find fights for him.

So he should be extra motivated here and not just underestimate his opponents and he should be proud that he is training with Nonito Donaire in Cebu. Also, this fight in his in Philippines so many fans are going to flock and watch him fight because its seldom that we see him fighting in his home soil as he has been traveling around the world to fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 20, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on April 20, 2023, 10:57:19 AM
^ Thanks for this update, I wonder though want happen to the court case he had as someone has accuses Casimero of rape way back? I do hope that there are no merits on that case and Casimero has move on already.

And it seems like his training is solid by the looks of it, as you have said, there are no distractions and he is focus because this is still a big fight for him in front of his thousands of fans and really wanted to see him in action.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 20, 2023, 11:13:08 AM
^ Thanks for this update, I wonder though want happen to the court case he had as someone has accuses Casimero of rape way back? I do hope that there are no merits on that case and Casimero has move on already.

I think that was just part of the demolition job, i mean the purpose of that one is to distract Casimero from training and of course there is no truth to it or no merit like you said. I've even read rumors that it was the brainchild of Sean Gibbons as we all know that their relationship went sour few years ago but i think Casimero has already move on in that controversy.

And it seems like his training is solid by the looks of it, as you have said, there are no distractions and he is focus because this is still a big fight for him in front of his thousands of fans and really wanted to see him in action.

Solid indeed, he really needs to train hard and never let his guard down as to not derail his plans on future big fights in the 122lbs division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kasabus on April 20, 2023, 05:37:07 PM
If this boxer, Nghitumbwa, comes to fight, then we will certainly see an entertaining bout.
Alternatively, we might see an upset if he truly possesses the legitimate power to defeat a former champion. It's a big challenge for him since people are underestimating him, and boxers like him have nothing to lose. However, if he is truly determined to win, that's when we may witness an upset. Who knows, he might even get an easy ticket to a championship fight by defeating Casimero.
And we could all say he truly earned it in a difficult way if he defeats Casimero and was able to buy his ticket for a championship fight.
He is underestimated in both the betting lines as a heavy underdog and in the media. I don't think he will win too as Casimero is eager enough to win this fight and claim back the respect that he wants and a position on the higher seeds that earns a chance for a title match.

This fight is near with just a month away and yet we don't see market boosters in social media. I had been trying to find some recent updates or training camps and other stuff but I cannot find one. I guess it won't be a much popular fight.
This is the only recent news that I bumped into.
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/498675/paras-to-fight-japanese-boxer-hanaba-in-casimero-nghitumbwa-undercard
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This developed as Vince Paras, a former world title challenger fighting under Sanman Boxing Gym, faces Japanese Hayumu Hanada in a 10-rounder non-title showdown in the undercard.
The bout is a fitting replacement for the Carl Jammes Martin - Jun Ikegawa bout which was cancelled after the former suffered injury in training.
That will remain as a big if for now because Nghitumbwa will have to prove himself first as he is still a nameless boxer and I know that Casimero will not make a mistake this time because he is looking for some statement to give himself a good push while climbing the ladder towards the top.

Unfortunately, Casimero haven't had any good exposures locally (TV and news outlets) up until now that the fight is already nearing and I know it because we're both from the same country. He could use a good exposure so that the people will know that a Filipino former champion at 118 got a fight inside the Philippines and is now fighting his way at 122 towards the top and redeem what he have lost in his previous division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on April 20, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Though he already got a name but he's not as popular as Manny, and for me that count in terms of preparing to this fight,
no destruction will give him enough space to find the best strategy for this fight.

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: dunfida on April 20, 2023, 11:36:15 PM
I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Though he already got a name but he's not as popular as Manny, and for me that count in terms of preparing to this fight,
no destruction will give him enough space to find the best strategy for this fight.

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.
The more the hype the more ticket sales it would be having and also it would be adding up more exposure into his name and would really be having that positive outcome when it comes to its career.
Yes, he might not be as popular like MP but at least he is already been considered to be famous out of this sport but of course he should really be able to prove out because lots had
been expecting for him to win.I dont know if he would be able to have that complete dominance of this upcoming fight but he should really be doing so
because he had those plans on catching up with Inoue then it is really just that right on having this kind of outcome.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 21, 2023, 01:41:08 AM
Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 21, 2023, 02:17:57 AM
This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: freedomgo on April 22, 2023, 07:06:14 AM
Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event  because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stadus on April 22, 2023, 06:39:31 PM
Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event  because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero

Thanks for sharing this mate, this really mean that this fight will indeed happen in Manila because I was afraid of some delays as there are some rumors circulating in the past weeks saying that it is not yet sure that this fight will pushed through in the Philippines because there is no official announcement released and frankly, I didn't see any marketing to advertise this bout. But since this fight will happen in Casimero's country, it's safe to say that it will be a sold-out fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Agbe on April 22, 2023, 06:54:09 PM
The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 22, 2023, 07:14:30 PM
The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.
Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: lionheart78 on April 22, 2023, 10:04:14 PM
This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.


Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.

I agree, one good example of such is the fight between Ledwaba and Pacquiao.  Pacquiao was unknown during that time and was just a replacement.  So he surprised the audience when he KO'ed Ledwaba in the early round of the fight.  Another good example is the recent championship title fight between Tapales and Akhmadaliev where the audience never expected that it will be an upset result.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: freedomgo on April 23, 2023, 03:57:48 PM
This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on April 23, 2023, 04:26:41 PM
This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Silberman on April 23, 2023, 05:55:35 PM
I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Japinat on April 25, 2023, 04:51:55 PM
I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

But in this instance, that lucky punch is somehow not possible enough because we all know already that Casimero's chin can really weather some good punches and survive without laying in the canvass after weathering it. That's why I think that he got more chances to control the fight, dominate it and go home with a win. Moreover, he knew as well that he cannot afford to make some mistakes this time while he's still at the bottom of the food chain fighting to gain rankings because a defeat will definitely end his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on April 25, 2023, 07:15:16 PM
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kasabus on April 26, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

It is also worth noting that John Riel Casimero is now on his comfortable division, or should I say at least he is on the right weight class where he is not having any problems anymore regarding on his weight. So, his built might be buffed a bit just like what we saw when he fought Akaho recently and meaning he can absorb and survive stronger punches this time as he is not that drained compared when he's still at 118.

This Nghitumbwa will just be a steppingstone, no matter how good I look at him because if he's that strong and can provide a good toe-to-toe fight with Casimero and other boxers in this industry, then I think by now we already know who he is and what he's made of. But since we don't know him that much, then that means he can't just stand in-front Casimero and block his way towards the bigger boys in this divsion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 26, 2023, 09:24:40 PM

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

The worst thing that could happen to Casimero is if he takes this fight lightly. An unknown fighter could upset a popular fighter, but let's hope it doesn't happen. What we'd like to see is Casimero having an impressive win, preferably via knockout in the early rounds. There's lots of speculation about what could happen in this fight, but if we look at Nghitumbwa's real chances based on paper, it's certainly close to none.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on April 26, 2023, 10:09:20 PM
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

It is also worth noting that John Riel Casimero is now on his comfortable division, or should I say at least he is on the right weight class where he is not having any problems anymore regarding on his weight. So, his built might be buffed a bit just like what we saw when he fought Akaho recently and meaning he can absorb and survive stronger punches this time as he is not that drained compared when he's still at 118.

This Nghitumbwa will just be a steppingstone, no matter how good I look at him because if he's that strong and can provide a good toe-to-toe fight with Casimero and other boxers in this industry, then I think by now we already know who he is and what he's made of. But since we don't know him that much, then that means he can't just stand in-front Casimero and block his way towards the bigger boys in this divsion.

I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yamifoud on April 27, 2023, 04:33:49 AM
I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fredomago on April 27, 2023, 05:50:47 AM
I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.

Nothing to say about it but just to finished the fight with impressive KO to create a noise and bring the attention to him, if he will win the fight with a brutal KO, and with the help of social media to hype his name up, I'm pretty sure that his manager/camp may create an impact to negotiate a much bigger fight for him.

It's just a simple reality that if you start from a scratch, this is what will happen to your career. You need to undergo with all these stepping stone fights to reach the top spot.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: btc_angela on April 27, 2023, 11:09:18 AM
I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.

Nothing to say about it but just to finished the fight with impressive KO to create a noise and bring the attention to him, if he will win the fight with a brutal KO, and with the help of social media to hype his name up, I'm pretty sure that his manager/camp may create an impact to negotiate a much bigger fight for him.

It's just a simple reality that if you start from a scratch, this is what will happen to your career. You need to undergo with all these stepping stone fights to reach the top spot.

No need to create hype by social media though, Casimero himself is brandish and can promote himself already. And if ever he will win by a brutal KO, for sure the social media is going to capture it. After all, John Riel is a former champion, so he brings his name and talent on the table here. That's why we wanted him to win so badly with a good win so create the impact that he needed in the super bantamweight.

It's gonna be easy for him to call others if he win this fashion. And for sure, any of the champion or high rank fighters are willing to face Casimero in his next fight. So maybe there is no hype in this fight because he is facing a no name fighters, but for sure, there are boxing pundits that is going to watch this fight and see how Casimero is.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Road21Bitcoin on April 27, 2023, 11:19:28 AM
I didn't know that John Riel "Quadro Alas"Casimero has an upcoming fight in the Philippines against Fillipus Nghitumbwa. I searched for information about his opponent, who is from Windhoek, Namibia, with a professional record of 12 wins and 1 loss. I don't think Nghitumbwa will have the chance against Casimero with his past background, but who knows, maybe just a lucky punch will turn around the fight. It's better if Casimero will knock him out just to please the fans.  


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 27, 2023, 12:04:01 PM
The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with.

Every boxer always believed in themselves that they can beat the fighter in front of them. Just look at Ryan Garcia's confidence going into the Tank Davis fight. He said this and that, but during the fight it's a complete opposite. I'm not saying that John Riel will not win here, but just believing in yourself is not enough. You need to execute everything in perfection even it this fight is so called tune up for him.

All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.

John Riel is exciting to watch because of his style. He always goes there and try to take off the head of his opponents and knock them out. So it will be the same goal for him against Nghitumbwa, KO victory and nothing more.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Fredomago on April 27, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
I didn't know that John Riel "Quadro Alas"Casimero has an upcoming fight in the Philippines against Fillipus Nghitumbwa. I searched for information about his opponent, who is from Windhoek, Namibia, with a professional record of 12 wins and 1 loss. I don't think Nghitumbwa will have the chance against Casimero with his past background, but who knows, maybe just a lucky punch will turn around the fight. It's better if Casimero will knock him out just to please the fans.  

The chance of winning against Casimero is really slim, with his current stats in paper maybe he can but in experienced though Casimero just went up to this division but we know he's a former champ and his level is by far compare to Nghitumbwa, we might see an early KO or if luck permits and Nghitumbwa will able to land a solid clear punch, maybe upset may happen.

We can only conclude after the fight, right now all are just speculation and opinion from different perspectives for this upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Japinat on April 27, 2023, 07:32:34 PM
I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.

It's his 2nd fight at super-bantamweight.

Still, it's all the reason why he should be dedicated enough to finish this unknown boxer with a statement because if Casimero's good enough, then we might be seeing him fighting top tier boxers in like 2 fights from now. In this fight, I found out that there's a belt at stake, it's not that big though but it is still worthy to grab it as he needed that to climb the ladder. By the way, the belt I'm talking about is the WBO Global Super Bantam (https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916) which is in Fillipus Nghitumbwa's hands now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 27, 2023, 09:42:27 PM
Every boxer always believed in themselves that they can beat the fighter in front of them. Just look at Ryan Garcia's confidence going into the Tank Davis fight. He said this and that, but during the fight it's a complete opposite. I'm not saying that John Riel will not win here, but just believing in yourself is not enough. You need to execute everything in perfection even it this fight is so called tune up for him.

Sometimes being too confident/cocky is just a way of selling the fight to the public and we know that well. Ryan Garcia agreed to all the terms that Davis threw at the negotiating table maybe because they badly needed the fight as a win against the Tank could skyrocket his stocks.

I'm a believer that there is no such thing as an easy fight in boxing but with the recent opponent of Casimero, i could say that this one will not go the distance because Ngitumbwa doesn't have the experience and first time to fight outside his country, this would be tough for him and Casimero is really training hard for this one.

Meanwhile, tickets for this fight were already sold-out per report, well that's expected because the venue is not that big and if I'm not mistaken this could only hold a few thousand guests.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: goinmerry on April 27, 2023, 10:09:54 PM
Meanwhile, tickets for this fight were already sold-out per report, well that's expected because the venue is not that big and if I'm not mistaken this could only hold a few thousand guests.

The undercards for this fight are all Pinoy boxers against Japanese boxers.

What a great show for those who will watch the event live at the famous Okada Manila. As per predictions, all Pinoy boxers at this event are all Favorites to win by a high percentage. The event is composed of these fights:

MAIN EVENT
John Riel Casimero vs. Fillipus Nghitumbwa

UNDERCARDS
Takeshi Inoue vs. Weljon Mindoro
Jun Ikegawa vs. Carl Jammes Martin
Ayumu Hanada vs. Vince Paras


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on April 28, 2023, 12:32:51 PM
Every boxer always believed in themselves that they can beat the fighter in front of them. Just look at Ryan Garcia's confidence going into the Tank Davis fight. He said this and that, but during the fight it's a complete opposite. I'm not saying that John Riel will not win here, but just believing in yourself is not enough. You need to execute everything in perfection even it this fight is so called tune up for him.

Sometimes being too confident/cocky is just a way of selling the fight to the public and we know that well. Ryan Garcia agreed to all the terms that Davis threw at the negotiating table maybe because they badly needed the fight as a win against the Tank could skyrocket his stocks.

I'm a believer that there is no such thing as an easy fight in boxing but with the recent opponent of Casimero, i could say that this one will not go the distance because Ngitumbwa doesn't have the experience and first time to fight outside his country, this would be tough for him and Casimero is really training hard for this one.

Meanwhile, tickets for this fight were already sold-out per report, well that's expected because the venue is not that big and if I'm not mistaken this could only hold a few thousand guests.

It's good that the ticket is sold-out, but as you have said, maybe the venue is not that big so obviously with Casimero's popularity in the Philippines, there are going to flock and watch him live.

It's the gamble that Garcia took though, maybe Oscar advises him, after all he is the manager. But I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, he wanted to gain respect from the boxing community and se he has been calling Tank for years because he believed beating him will raise his stocks. But it's the other way around, now he is back to and maybe he will go up in weight.

But going back to the fight, I check sportsbet.io, the odds are not out yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Botnake on April 28, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
Every boxer always believed in themselves that they can beat the fighter in front of them. Just look at Ryan Garcia's confidence going into the Tank Davis fight. He said this and that, but during the fight it's a complete opposite. I'm not saying that John Riel will not win here, but just believing in yourself is not enough. You need to execute everything in perfection even it this fight is so called tune up for him.

Sometimes being too confident/cocky is just a way of selling the fight to the public and we know that well. Ryan Garcia agreed to all the terms that Davis threw at the negotiating table maybe because they badly needed the fight as a win against the Tank could skyrocket his stocks.

I'm a believer that there is no such thing as an easy fight in boxing but with the recent opponent of Casimero, i could say that this one will not go the distance because Ngitumbwa doesn't have the experience and first time to fight outside his country, this would be tough for him and Casimero is really training hard for this one.

Meanwhile, tickets for this fight were already sold-out per report, well that's expected because the venue is not that big and if I'm not mistaken this could only hold a few thousand guests.

It's good that the ticket is sold-out, but as you have said, maybe the venue is not that big so obviously with Casimero's popularity in the Philippines, there are going to flock and watch him live.

It's the gamble that Garcia took though, maybe Oscar advises him, after all he is the manager. But I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, he wanted to gain respect from the boxing community and se he has been calling Tank for years because he believed beating him will raise his stocks. But it's the other way around, now he is back to and maybe he will go up in weight.

But going back to the fight, I check sportsbet.io, the odds are not out yet.
About the ticket price:
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According to the ticketing page shared by event promoter Treasure Boxing Promotion, a regular seat would cost $75 or PHP4,165 while a VIP ringside seat will set one back $375 or PHP20,828.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/868234/here-are-the-ticket-prices-for-john-riel-casimero-s-homecoming-bout-in-manila/story/

I also checked the venue capacity but I'm not that sure that this information that I've got from the web is legit as it says that the venue can only hold up to 2,000 guests, which is quite a small venue for this bout mainly for Casimero's fans to see especially now that he is fighting inside his own country.

I know this bout is not that big but what do you think folks, is the said capacity decent enough?
They could've sold a few more seat if they selected a bigger venue as I know there are still lot of people out there who wanted to see this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on April 28, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
Every boxer always believed in themselves that they can beat the fighter in front of them. Just look at Ryan Garcia's confidence going into the Tank Davis fight. He said this and that, but during the fight it's a complete opposite. I'm not saying that John Riel will not win here, but just believing in yourself is not enough. You need to execute everything in perfection even it this fight is so called tune up for him.

Sometimes being too confident/cocky is just a way of selling the fight to the public and we know that well. Ryan Garcia agreed to all the terms that Davis threw at the negotiating table maybe because they badly needed the fight as a win against the Tank could skyrocket his stocks.

I'm a believer that there is no such thing as an easy fight in boxing but with the recent opponent of Casimero, i could say that this one will not go the distance because Ngitumbwa doesn't have the experience and first time to fight outside his country, this would be tough for him and Casimero is really training hard for this one.

Meanwhile, tickets for this fight were already sold-out per report, well that's expected because the venue is not that big and if I'm not mistaken this could only hold a few thousand guests.

It's good that the ticket is sold-out, but as you have said, maybe the venue is not that big so obviously with Casimero's popularity in the Philippines, there are going to flock and watch him live.

It's the gamble that Garcia took though, maybe Oscar advises him, after all he is the manager. But I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, he wanted to gain respect from the boxing community and se he has been calling Tank for years because he believed beating him will raise his stocks. But it's the other way around, now he is back to and maybe he will go up in weight.

But going back to the fight, I check sportsbet.io, the odds are not out yet.
About the ticket price:
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According to the ticketing page shared by event promoter Treasure Boxing Promotion, a regular seat would cost $75 or PHP4,165 while a VIP ringside seat will set one back $375 or PHP20,828.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/868234/here-are-the-ticket-prices-for-john-riel-casimero-s-homecoming-bout-in-manila/story/

I also checked the venue capacity but I'm not that sure that this information that I've got from the web is legit as it says that the venue can only hold up to 2,000 guests, which is quite a small venue for this bout mainly for Casimero's fans to see especially now that he is fighting inside his own country.

I know this bout is not that big but what do you think folks, is the said capacity decent enough?
They could've sold a few more seat if they selected a bigger venue as I know there are still lot of people out there who wanted to see this fight.

Yes, seems like you got the correct intel because the Okada's main hall where they host some events like these are not that huge compared to other hotels outside the country. IMO, 2,000 is already a pretty big space for a fight like this because just like you've said, this bout is not that big and probably will not attract a lot of audience to watch the fight live but in-terms of PPV, there might be many people who would avail to see the fight.

In-fact, it's already a good thing that the venue tickets was already sold out because I bet the organizers wasn't expecting that to happen because if they were, they could've moved the location to a different place like a stadium but what they played it safe just to make sure that instead of making some profits, they will not receive the opposite outcome.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Botnake on May 07, 2023, 03:34:59 AM
Are there still no betting odds available for this fight? I have searched different sportsbooks, but I could not find any. I'm not sure of the reason behind it, but it's probably because this fight isn't as popular as championship fights.

The fight is less than a week away, so the odds should be available by now. Since they're not out yet, I'll check again a day before the fight.

For those who don't know where the fight will take place, it will be in the Philippines.

 source :  (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/johnriel-casimero-fights-at-home-again-after-four-years-a793-20230506#:~:text=FORMER%20world%20champion%20Johnriel%20Casimero,Resort%20Hotel%20on%20May%2013.)
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FORMER world champion Johnriel Casimero makes a homecoming after four years as he takes on Filipus Nghitumbwa of Namibia at the Okada Resort Hotel on May 13.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: YuginKadoya on May 07, 2023, 05:58:09 AM
Why does John Riel Casimero accept this fight? he's just going to walk through this guy and depending on the record he has he doesn't have any kind of heavy opponents at all, unlike John Riel Casimero that has Guillermo Rigondeaux, Duke Micah, Zolani Tete, and even Ryo Akaho that has 44 bouts in his record, while Fillipus Nghitumbwa all of his fight records was all from Namibia for sure this is not going to be an upset this is going to be a destruction of a rising talent I really think it is still not enough 13 bouts 12 KO's and 1 Lost,

For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on May 07, 2023, 02:29:50 PM
Why does John Riel Casimero accept this fight? he's just going to walk through this guy and depending on the record he has he doesn't have any kind of heavy opponents at all, unlike John Riel Casimero that has Guillermo Rigondeaux, Duke Micah, Zolani Tete, and even Ryo Akaho that has 44 bouts in his record, while Fillipus Nghitumbwa all of his fight records was all from Namibia for sure this is not going to be an upset this is going to be a destruction of a rising talent I really think it is still not enough 13 bouts 12 KO's and 1 Lost,

For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,

He has a new manager, a Japanese match maker, so maybe they just want to take it slow. And as much as we wanted John Riel to fight for the belt, it's not gonna be easy for him right now as this is a new weight class for him. So he had to climb the ladder again.

So maybe after this one, they will look for a name opponents and maybe fight in the US. But I do agree, I'm liking Casimero against the likes of Luis Nery. They have been trash talking before so might be a good opportunity for John Riel to face him next after he wins against Nghitumbwa. And it would be better if Casimero wins by a knockout here so that he can go and become hype again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on May 07, 2023, 03:27:14 PM
For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,

The problem is, those on the upper rank have nothing to gain if they will fight Casimero at this point. Casimero's camp really wants to push for a good fight in order to be recognized and climb the ranking but they are starting from scratch since entering the 122 lbs division. No choice but to accept fights even against a non-popular boxer.

Casimero needs to remain active in the ring for at least 2 fights per year regardless of the opponent as the goal is to be recognized. His debut fight on the 122 is against a low-tier boxer but with how Casimero shows dominance in that fight, the WBC has given him an 8th rank right away. The WBO also ranked him 5th.

If Casimero will show a dominant landslide victory, or much better a deadly KO win, he will surely again be recognized and will be given a much higher rank. One step closer to having a chance to fight those at the upper rank.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on May 07, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Are there still no betting odds available for this fight? I have searched different sportsbooks, but I could not find any. I'm not sure of the reason behind it, but it's probably because this fight isn't as popular as championship fights.

The fight is less than a week away, so the odds should be available by now. Since they're not out yet, I'll check again a day before the fight.

For those who don't know where the fight will take place, it will be in the Philippines.

 source :  (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/johnriel-casimero-fights-at-home-again-after-four-years-a793-20230506#:~:text=FORMER%20world%20champion%20Johnriel%20Casimero,Resort%20Hotel%20on%20May%2013.)
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FORMER world champion Johnriel Casimero makes a homecoming after four years as he takes on Filipus Nghitumbwa of Namibia at the Okada Resort Hotel on May 13.



Because this is just like a tune-up fight for Johnreil Casimero. I did notice earlier that Filippus is ranked #10 by the WBO and top 20 by another 1 or 2 sanctioning bodies. So this is not a bad pick at least and this is a homecoming fight of Casimero where it is hard and not cheap to let a world-ranked contender into enemy territory.

This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: mirakal on May 07, 2023, 08:32:37 PM
Are there still no betting odds available for this fight? I have searched different sportsbooks, but I could not find any. I'm not sure of the reason behind it, but it's probably because this fight isn't as popular as championship fights.

The fight is less than a week away, so the odds should be available by now. Since they're not out yet, I'll check again a day before the fight.

For those who don't know where the fight will take place, it will be in the Philippines.

 source :  (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/johnriel-casimero-fights-at-home-again-after-four-years-a793-20230506#:~:text=FORMER%20world%20champion%20Johnriel%20Casimero,Resort%20Hotel%20on%20May%2013.)
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FORMER world champion Johnriel Casimero makes a homecoming after four years as he takes on Filipus Nghitumbwa of Namibia at the Okada Resort Hotel on May 13.


Maybe you guessed it right, bookies are still not listing this fight because aside from the fact that it's not yet a championship fight, both participants are not that known especially Nghitumbwa or it's not gaining a lot of attention. Maybe 48 hours before the fight, they will.

In my local sportsbook, this bout was already listed about a week ago, but as of now, there are no betting options for this fight. Still waiting for it though.

John Riel Casimero   - 1.12
Filipus Nghitumbwa  - 8.4
Draw                          - 30


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: coin-investor on May 07, 2023, 10:44:21 PM


This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. :D
Filipino sports streamers are making money from streaming live boxing through donations so I will have no problem watching this fight, and you are right only rich ones can afford the price, but the promotions have a good reason why they will hold in casinos because this is not a championship fight and he is fighting unknown fighters and its hard to promote this fight in big arenas for a more affordable price, so the promoters opted for small arenas but expensive tickets and sponsorships.
Maybe after Casimero becomes a World Champion again his promoters can choose a big arena for his local fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 07, 2023, 11:07:07 PM

This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. :D
Filipino sports streamers are making money from streaming live boxing through donations so I will have no problem watching this fight, and you are right only rich ones can afford the price, but the promotions have a good reason why they will hold in casinos because this is not a championship fight and he is fighting unknown fighters and its hard to promote this fight in big arenas for a more affordable price, so the promoters opted for small arenas but expensive tickets and sponsorships.
Maybe after Casimero becomes a World Champion again his promoters can choose a big arena for his local fans.

these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 08, 2023, 03:06:44 AM
these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

As always with a non-popular fight, odds are going to be released few days before the fight but rest assured that this will be covered by the bookies.

The tickets for the general admission for this fight is less that a hundred dollar and it's already sold out and last time I've heard that they added some tickets to cater to some fans that are eager to watch this fight. The venue could only accommodate a few hundred of people that's the reason why the general admission ticket is that high, though not too high but to ordinary Filipinos it's quite a lot of money.

https://i.imgur.com/o2pkuj2.png

^^ latest photo of Casimero I grabbed on his youtube channel and it seems he got no problem anymore making the scale.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Viscore on May 08, 2023, 09:39:53 AM

In my local sportsbook, this bout was already listed about a week ago, but as of now, there are no betting options for this fight. Still waiting for it though.

John Riel Casimero   - 1.12
Filipus Nghitumbwa  - 8.4
Draw                          - 30


What sportsbook are you using? Those odds are crazy. I didn't expect Filipus Nghitumbwa to be the favorite, but I also didn't expect him to be this much of an underdog. Personally, I would bet on Casimero, but 1.12 is not attractive. Are there any other betting options where we can get higher odds, such as Casimero winning by KO in 1-3 rounds?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: yazher on May 08, 2023, 01:27:43 PM

MAIN EVENT
John Riel Casimero vs. Fillipus Nghitumbwa

UNDERCARDS
Takeshi Inoue vs. Weljon Mindoro
Jun Ikegawa vs. Carl Jammes Martin
Ayumu Hanada vs. Vince Paras

Looks like we have some decent undercard fights as well and these guys might be the next superstar in boxing they just need to show some impact in this one because this is their chance to shine since Casimero is famous enough to be watched with millions of viewers all around the world especially in Asia. It might be not the best opponent he could have but it is a chance to prove to himself he can beat anybody here in this weight class and he needs to be getting a stronger opponent than Nghitumbwa. I predict an early knockout because Casimero is hungry for a multimillion contract but in order to have that, he will need to win this amazingly than ever before.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: molsewid on May 08, 2023, 01:38:29 PM

MAIN EVENT
John Riel Casimero vs. Fillipus Nghitumbwa

UNDERCARDS
Takeshi Inoue vs. Weljon Mindoro
Jun Ikegawa vs. Carl Jammes Martin
Ayumu Hanada vs. Vince Paras

Looks like we have some decent undercard fights as well and these guys might be the next superstar in boxing they just need to show some impact in this one because this is their chance to shine since Casimero is famous enough to be watched with millions of viewers all around the world especially in Asia. It might be not the best opponent he could have but it is a chance to prove to himself he can beat anybody here in this weight class and he needs to be getting a stronger opponent than Nghitumbwa. I predict an early knockout because Casimero is hungry for a multimillion contract but in order to have that, he will need to win this amazingly than ever before.
Yep, the match for Inoue is quite interesting as well. Casimero needed to have the KO because as far as I know the opponent it not so well known in the mainstream but be has a good Track record for KO, most of his fight are came from KO. My vote will be for Casimero but he should be careful with Nghitumbwa, this guy has a good stats as well, this will be a good fight for both of them want to be known and want to be known more.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Japinat on May 08, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

As always with a non-popular fight, odds are going to be released few days before the fight but rest assured that this will be covered by the bookies.

The tickets for the general admission for this fight is less that a hundred dollar and it's already sold out and last time I've heard that they added some tickets to cater to some fans that are eager to watch this fight. The venue could only accommodate a few hundred of people that's the reason why the general admission ticket is that high, though not too high but to ordinary Filipinos it's quite a lot of money.

https://i.imgur.com/o2pkuj2.png

^^ latest photo of Casimero I grabbed on his youtube channel and it seems he got no problem anymore making the scale.

Yes, it seems like we're right all along that Casimero shouldn't be having those issues again in this division. Though the difference is not that big at least that gave Casimero some leverage to be in his usual body weight and not so scraggy compared to what he have to endure back at 118 just to settle in with the weight but that didn't last long as it is already clear enough that the weight class is not for him anymore.

About the tickets, yes it's kind of expensive for normal people but talking about the venue where the fight will happen, it is also kind of reasonable enough because it is Okada Manila Hotel & Casino. Anyway, I sure do hope that there will be a live feed on this fight for free.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 08:40:33 PM
^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Botnake on May 09, 2023, 11:46:21 AM
And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: btc_angela on May 09, 2023, 12:43:23 PM
And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on May 09, 2023, 03:26:20 PM
And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.
   
https://i.imgur.com/7GtbpHu.png

The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Japinat on May 09, 2023, 06:16:14 PM
And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.
   
https://i.imgur.com/7GtbpHu.png

The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.

Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Slow death on May 09, 2023, 06:47:10 PM
strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bittraffic on May 09, 2023, 07:13:16 PM
strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number. 

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4





Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Pamadar on May 10, 2023, 12:48:02 PM
^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.
I agree, 122 lbs is no longer an issue for Casimero, unlike with 118 lbs where he struggles and loses his belts.

No longer in focus on how to lose weight, but with how he will execute his fighting strategy to make the
fight interesting for the fans who are waiting for his upcoming fight.

It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Viscore on May 10, 2023, 01:07:45 PM

It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.

I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 10, 2023, 01:18:06 PM
I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.
Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4
It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on May 10, 2023, 01:43:46 PM
I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.
Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.
We don't necessarily need to bet on the moneyline, especially if Casimero is a heavy favorite, as that won't give us much return. Some bookies offer betting on rounds or ranges of every three rounds, and we can try to guess which particular range Casimero will win by KO. I've seen this many times already, and the odds can be really high, so we just need to be good at guessing.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4
It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.

Is it really 1.30? I think that's still high. I was expecting his odds to be around 1.10 at most, or maybe 1.20.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: inthelongrun on May 10, 2023, 02:55:59 PM
Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Well, it is not uncommon in boxing that a new champion will be facing a mandatory right away. Before, the IBF is notorious for strictly imposing its mandatories and doesn't even care if the champion is unified or a superstar.

Inoue's main priority, if he beats Fulton, is to become undisputed so it means Tapales. Tapales also said that if he is going to choose his next opponent, it will be Inoue. Hopefully, none of these sanctioning bodies will issue a mandatory right away so can see another undisputed champion. The IBF final eliminator between Aleem and Goodman happens next month so the mandate will be issued late this year or early next year. But I'm expecting the IBF to postpone the mandate if Tapales is facing Inoue for the undisputed belts. 

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.

The good thing about this division is that there are no current fake and paper champions. The division is free from garbage interims and regular belts. So everything is straightforward here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Slow death on May 10, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel

https://i.imgur.com/0YwhpwR.png

It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bittraffic on May 10, 2023, 05:20:54 PM
wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel

https://i.imgur.com/0YwhpwR.png

It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kelvinid on May 11, 2023, 03:21:48 AM
wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel

https://i.imgur.com/0YwhpwR.png

It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

I love the betting odds, and even though it's only 1.31 for Casimero, I don't mind because it's free money for me. Casimero, a former champion, is fighting an unknown boxer, and the chance of an upset is very slim. Therefore, I'm taking Casimero's money line without any doubt. Let's wait for the full market to be unlocked; at least we already have the money line bets available for now. It's also up on Sportsbet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Oasisman on May 11, 2023, 05:02:47 AM

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

Slim chance indeed for Nghitumbwa, I was convinced about the odds after I watched his highlights. It looks like the guy is flat footed, won't move much and is always open. The kind of fighting style he's got will not gonna last 5 rounds in an international stage. If Nghitumbwa will not going to be careful against Casimero, this match will end up in a knockout victory for Casimero.
Most of the boxing analyst would probably have Casimero an easy win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 11, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TltSCqY.png

^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Vaculin on May 11, 2023, 04:44:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TltSCqY.png

^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?

Did he? Wow, that's a crazy bet again coming from the one and only Drake! ;D

This time he's fortunate enough and won a 375k profit from betting $1M because the last time, his bet for Jake Paul to knockout Tommy Fury did lost and that's worth a staggering $400k.

Anyway, back to the main topic, I can see that Casimero is indeed favored by the bookies and listing him @ 1.31 is decent enough but not for me because that's quite low. Decision @ 5.40 is juicy and I'll throw some few bucks towards him as a sign of support to our very own Filipino boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on May 11, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number. 

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4


Odds are out in sportsbet.io though, and you are just about right, Casimero ML is 1.31 and Nghitumbwa 3.4

And then the over/under round is 7.5, 1.94/1.84.

So everyone or at last majority who saw Casimero as the favorite is correct, he is 1:3 favorite against Nghitumbwa. So the ML bet is not that attractive, but at least in the over/under rounds is a good bet for us. If Casimero will land his signature power punches then I don't think that this fight is going to last long, and if we look at the odds, the under is the favorite. So this could be a value bet, IMHO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 11, 2023, 11:18:14 PM
strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number.  

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4


Odds are out in sportsbet.io though, and you are just about right, Casimero ML is 1.31 and Nghitumbwa 3.4

And then the over/under round is 7.5, 1.94/1.84.

So everyone or at last majority who saw Casimero as the favorite is correct, he is 1:3 favorite against Nghitumbwa. So the ML bet is not that attractive, but at least in the over/under rounds is a good bet for us. If Casimero will land his signature power punches then I don't think that this fight is going to last long, and if we look at the odds, the under is the favorite. So this could be a value bet, IMHO.

stake has it already along with other 7 betting lines.

https://i.ibb.co/n3J4C78/Screen-Shot-2023-05-12-at-7-17-34-AM.png (https://ibb.co/XyR687k)

the odds is at 5.40 if casimero by decision, whereas casimero by ko is at 1.60. can casimero really dominate this fight? hope he can still attract crowd as his boxing career is on the brink of losing the spark. if he loses, don't know where he will pick-up from here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Questat on May 12, 2023, 03:27:49 AM

stake has it already along with other 7 betting lines.

https://i.ibb.co/n3J4C78/Screen-Shot-2023-05-12-at-7-17-34-AM.png (https://ibb.co/XyR687k)

the odds is at 5.40 if casimero by decision, whereas casimero by ko is at 1.60. can casimero really dominate this fight? hope he can still attract crowd as his boxing career is on the brink of losing the spark. if he loses, don't know where he will pick-up from here.

It is highly likely that Casimero will win by KO, as he is a renowned KO artist. Additionally, I believe that Nghitumbwa will not be running throughout the fight, as that is not his reputation.

Looking at Nghitumbwa's record (https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162), we can see that he has achieved 11 KO victories in his last 12 fights. This speaks volumes about his aggressive style in the ring. Frankly, I would not be surprised if this fight ends early


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 12, 2023, 08:47:13 AM
We have plenty of betting odds available here:

https://i.ibb.co/0tWNWh4/casimero.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 12, 2023, 10:50:04 AM
We have plenty of betting odds available here:
~snip~

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

Yup, this will end in a knockout but my confidence is very high that it would be Nghitumbwa who would end facing the canvass so for this is a gimme for all the Filipino boxing fans and bettors alike though the chance of an upset is still there but for it is just less than 1 percent.

Below is the weigh-in link, Casimero still got that "angas" in there lol which i think he could back by beating badly his opponent.

That odds of @6.40 for a knockout win on round 1-3 is quite interesting and maybe i'll put a few dollars on it but most of my money will be on the Casimero win via KO/TKO.

Why is that the tx fee now is too high?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyLlDbfBuk&ab_channel=ManilaBulletinOnline


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: btc_angela on May 12, 2023, 01:19:55 PM
We have plenty of betting odds available here:
~snip~

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

Yup, this will end in a knockout but my confidence is very high that it would be Nghitumbwa who would end facing the canvass so for this is a gimme for all the Filipino boxing fans and bettors alike though the chance of an upset is still there but for it is just less than 1 percent.

Below is the weigh-in link, Casimero still got that "angas" in there lol which i think he could back by beating badly his opponent.

That odds of @6.40 for a knockout win on round 1-3 is quite interesting and maybe i'll put a few dollars on it but most of my money will be on the Casimero win via KO/TKO.

Why is that the tx fee now is too high?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyLlDbfBuk&ab_channel=ManilaBulletinOnline

Yeah, saw this also in my Facebook, and Casimero still has that brandish style, but Nghitumbwa was not intimidated although later he try to shake the hands of Casimero. And it's also the first time that I saw Nghitumbwa, and the guy is taller. But we all know that Casimero has share the rings with taller boxer and it doesn't matter. What matter is that he still possesses that punching power to take down those tall and lanky boxer like Nghitumbwa.

Why not? That odds is very attractive and maybe Casimero if he will able to find that opening in early rounds might go for a KO/TKO just like what he did when he bet the much touted Zolani Tete (which is also very tall for him).


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: carlisle1 on May 12, 2023, 01:59:36 PM
We have plenty of betting odds available here:

https://i.ibb.co/0tWNWh4/casimero.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

It's a matter of how you trust Casimero here now, with that betting odds you will be able to pick whatever you think that Casimero
will be able to knock his opponent down.

One correct guess will give you a sweet outcome, though it's still a tough guess and upset still possible as we don't know what preparations did Nghitumbwa has done during his trainings.

Almost a fight night, one more day and we will witness Casimero back inside the ring! Good luck to all bettors.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: mirakal on May 12, 2023, 09:00:37 PM
We have plenty of betting odds available here:

https://i.ibb.co/0tWNWh4/casimero.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

It's a matter of how you trust Casimero here now, with that betting odds you will be able to pick whatever you think that Casimero
will be able to knock his opponent down.

One correct guess will give you a sweet outcome, though it's still a tough guess and upset still possible as we don't know what preparations did Nghitumbwa has done during his trainings.

Almost a fight night, one more day and we will witness Casimero back inside the ring! Good luck to all bettors.


Many options to choose from but it makes it even harder to choose ;D

I personally will bet on Casimero via decision @ 5.40 and throw some few for Casimero to finish the fight within 10-12 @ 6.40 .. I know that Casimero is looking forward to make some statement in this fight to make a huge climb in the ladder but I will not rule out the factor that Casimero's opponent might turn this into a survival game again. Just to be sure though that's why I took the decision and 10-12, but that's not even guaranteed hehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on May 12, 2023, 09:12:29 PM
I know that Casimero is looking forward to make some statement in this fight to make a huge climb in the ladder but I will not rule out the factor that Casimero's opponent might turn this into a survival game again.

Honestly, you have a good point there. Compare to an old Ryo Akaho (36 years old when he fought Casimero) that doesn't have the quickness and agile anymore to avoid Casimero's punches, the much younger Nghitumbwa (currently at 27 years old) might have the stamina to last until the final bell rang if the purpose is just to avoid Casimero's punches lol. Basically, won't bother to face Casimero toe-to-toe especially if the young Nghitumbwa feels the strength behind those punches.

However, Nghitumbwa just has to make sure not to get pulverized by Casimero's quick and strong punches in the early rounds as it will result in him not being able to last in the later rounds. Casimero is always known to be an aggressive boxer, right from the early rounds and that is the reason why most of his opponents are ended up almost out of gas in the later rounds.

Official weigh-in video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ivZEIBqgeA


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 13, 2023, 08:59:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYbQI3LOIg&ab_channel=SkywalkerBoxing%23TWT

Above is the youtube link of the Casimeo vs Nghitumbwa fight.

Hope this will work to all of us here.

edit:
end of round three and it seems that this is an exciting fight to watch as Nghitumbwa is also have some guts to brawl against Casimero.

Nghitumbwa absorbing some heavy blows there at the end of the round 5,


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: coin-investor on May 13, 2023, 10:08:21 AM
Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Pamadar on May 13, 2023, 10:40:03 AM
Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Distinctin on May 13, 2023, 12:06:45 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!

His opponent is tough, as he was still able to continue despite being knocked down. You're right, I think Casimero still needs more fights before getting into a championship fight. I hope his team also sees it that way. Although he won the fight, I don't find it impressive enough to grant him the opportunity to challenge the champion.

Congratulations to the winners! Casimero winning by decision has higher odds than him winning by KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Johnyz on May 13, 2023, 12:19:37 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.
A big win for Casimero but I agree, he's not that good anymore the way he moves in the ring, I still he's still lack of focus.
Anyway, a win is a win and probably this could be the start for Casimero to rise again because there's still a chance for him. I want to see the old Casimero, hope to see more fights with him as he reaches his goal to the top again, there's still time for him. Congrats to the bettors.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 13, 2023, 12:37:00 PM

Congratulations to the winners! Casimero winning by decision has higher odds than him winning by KO.

The odds was 5.40. I think we have a poster here who won his bet, I believe with was bisdak40.




A big win for Casimero but I agree, he's not that good anymore the way he moves in the ring, I still he's still lack of focus.
Anyway, a win is a win and probably this could be the start for Casimero to rise again because there's still a chance for him. I want to see the old Casimero, hope to see more fights with him as he reaches his goal to the top again, there's still time for him. Congrats to the bettors.

Perhaps he was distracted as he was training in the Philippines. Being close to his friends and family could really affect his concentration. However, since he has already won the fight, let's congratulate him while remaining hopeful for his impressive performance in the next fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Kemarit on May 13, 2023, 01:01:54 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!

Yes, I haven't watch the fight though, even some highlights, but from what I read Nghitumbwa was knock down by John Riel Casimero. And then there was a headbutt by Nghitumbwa, causing the ref to deduct one point form him.

And the final score is 14-112, 116-110, 116-110. So it's very close fight based on that score.

But this is still a win for Casimero, not that outcome that fans of him wanted to see. But still a good case for him to be on another fight with a rank fighter to get him inch closer to a title fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: robelneo on May 13, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
Its something many were not expecting it left me with the question is Nghitumbwa really that good or Casimero is having a hard time adjusting because of ring rust or inactivity, he was connecting but those punches that use to knock his opponents lack the sting, the killer instinct was diminished, usually when he hurt his opponent he goes all out but he is having a hard time finishing Nghitumbwa even if Nghitumbwa was badly hurt.
I like to agree that Inoue can easily beat him if the fights happen now, he needs to be more active in the ring and totally stop his social media activity and focus more on boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Viscore on May 13, 2023, 01:06:56 PM
And the final score is 14-112, 116-110, 116-110. So it's very close fight based on that score.

But this is still a win for Casimero, not that outcome that fans of him wanted to see. But still a good case for him to be on another fight with a rank fighter to get him inch closer to a title fight.

Perhaps the fight being held in the Philippines will generate controversy. Casimero should have gone for a knockout, as it would have been his best chance at securing a high-profile fight. Many of us were mistaken in assuming that this would be an easy win for Casimero, given that he was up against an unknown boxer. However, considering the judges' scores, it is evident that he had to put in significant effort to claim victory.

So, what's next for Casimero?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Slow death on May 13, 2023, 02:44:18 PM
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the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have , but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Shamm on May 13, 2023, 03:59:04 PM
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the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have, but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far

Yes you are right that mate we expected that Casimero will win in the early round but what we saw is a tired Casimero he almost lost in last round because of tiredness but always kudos to Nghitumbwa he is a tough boxer that almost he won by a KO because if nghitumbwa have a good solid punch then for sure he will win because we all know that the last round is a nghutumbwa round Casimero is tired enough so that's his chance but it beyond the expected.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: PX-Z on May 13, 2023, 07:41:49 PM
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I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa.
Well, that's the difference on how getting a higher weight division is so much harder than expected. Nghitumbwa has great stamina knowing he is on reigning on that weight division as he defend his title, feels like he even recovered instantly after that knockdown. But still a good fight for both fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bittraffic on May 13, 2023, 08:12:19 PM

Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Jating on May 13, 2023, 08:45:04 PM

Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.

Yes, perhaps Nghitumbwa has a good chin and stamina and was able to withstand the power of Casimero early that's why he was able to get up from the canvass and surprisingly, lasted 12 rounds against the power of Casimero.

And it seems that this division is going to be tough as expected, this is just a acid test for Casimero and he pass it although we want to see a brutal KO to bring his career again. Nevertheless, a good second fight for him at 122 lbs, need more exposure though, a name fighter at super bantamweight so that he will be up in rankings again and possible for a crack on the title, whoever it was.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 13, 2023, 08:58:47 PM

Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.

Yes, perhaps Nghitumbwa has a good chin and stamina and was able to withstand the power of Casimero early that's why he was able to get up from the canvass and surprisingly, lasted 12 rounds against the power of Casimero.

And it seems that this division is going to be tough as expected, this is just a acid test for Casimero and he pass it although we want to see a brutal KO to bring his career again. Nevertheless, a good second fight for him at 122 lbs, need more exposure though, a name fighter at super bantamweight so that he will be up in rankings again and possible for a crack on the title, whoever it was.

well, the good thing here is that casimero won the match. at least, a good motivation to find a bigger name in this weight division. because aiming for inoue has been paused at 118 lbs. and now that inoue is fighting in the 122-lb division, casimero can now checkout other names on this division and hopefully get the much anticipated fight with inoue. who knows? this may be a good start for him in this weight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: coin-investor on May 13, 2023, 09:35:43 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: goaldigger on May 13, 2023, 09:47:12 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: TimeTeller on May 13, 2023, 09:56:54 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far

Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

And that is what matters here, Casimero getting the belt because of his past hullabaloos.
Now, to prove he has still something to offer in this sports, he should excel in his upcoming fights.
Because reviving his popularity in this sports is no easy task, it should show from the results of his fights.
He's only 34 years old, he has still good number of years in this sports. But should lessen the issues like weight issues and all.
But should seriously train and comply with every requirement so as not to delay or pause his soon-to-be fights.
For Filipus, he can still continue his boxing career, this is just one hurdle in his career, he can very well get another belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: Taskford on May 13, 2023, 09:58:31 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

He still manage to win since Nghitumbwa also lost his air, he got knock out by casimero and he didn't get great response im return. But todays fight expose Casimero's weakness since he's throwing a lot of power pumch and that make him weak and cannot able to respond heavily until late rounds he seems to be so tired and that is a huge hole to get defeated by his next opponent if he didn't work those things.

I guess he's far to win with Inoue if he show the same performance like this but let see for sure there's improvement eill happen if he face a fast and more dominant fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: Dave1 on May 13, 2023, 10:24:47 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

He still manage to win since Nghitumbwa also lost his air, he got knock out by casimero and he didn't get great response im return. But todays fight expose Casimero's weakness since he's throwing a lot of power pumch and that make him weak and cannot able to respond heavily until late rounds he seems to be so tired and that is a huge hole to get defeated by his next opponent if he didn't work those things.

I guess he's far to win with Inoue if he show the same performance like this but let see for sure there's improvement eill happen if he face a fast and more dominant fighter.

I wouldn't say he has been exposed, many great power punchers usually doesn't have a good gas tank. Take for example Thomas Hearns, he is known to be very powerful puncher, but if he can't hit the target he himself will be knockout cold.

But at least in this case, even if you say that Casimero doesn't have that gas tank, he was able to sustain the fight till 12 rounds. This boxers really need to hit their opponents so that there energy or power will not go to waste. But as others said, still a win for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa(May 13)
Post by: serjent05 on May 13, 2023, 11:40:35 PM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.

It looks like this is the answer to Casimero's request since he stated that he was quite not satisfied with the fight against Akaho because it lasted only in 2nd round,  and he wanted to be satisfied on this fight, and yes the fight goes the long way into the hand of the judges.  I bet this time Casimero is fully satisfied with the length of the fight. ;D

Nghitumbwa is surprisingly tough since we had compared this guy against Tete which lead us to think that Tete is way tougher and better than NGhitumbwa but it looks like we are wrong with our assumption.  Regardless, Casimero wins and I also agree that this is a good opportunity to hunt boxers on the top ranking replacing them in their rankings.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 14, 2023, 02:00:30 AM

the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have , but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


I have to agree to what you have said above, Team Quadro Alas may have underestimated Nghiyumbwa because of his lack of experience in fighting overseas and that might be the result of Casimero's overconfidence. Kudos to Nghitumbwa for giving Casimero a very competitive fight, he could have not continued after that knockdown in the sixth but he showed resilience and toughness that he could stand up after that scary knockdown.

Styles make a fight that we can't say that Casimero is on not Inoue's level but definitely the latter will be the heavy favorite once they face in the ring and once that happen i know that Casimero's training will be much different that his preparation against Nghitumbwa.

Congrats to all who bet for Casimero via decision, that was a very good odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa(May 13)
Post by: TravelMug on May 14, 2023, 02:38:29 AM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.

It looks like this is the answer to Casimero's request since he stated that he was quite not satisfied with the fight against Akaho because it lasted only in 2nd round,  and he wanted to be satisfied on this fight, and yes the fight goes the long way into the hand of the judges.  I bet this time Casimero is fully satisfied with the length of the fight. ;D

Nghitumbwa is surprisingly tough since we had compared this guy against Tete which lead us to think that Tete is way tougher and better than NGhitumbwa but it looks like we are wrong with our assumption.  Regardless, Casimero wins and I also agree that this is a good opportunity to hunt boxers on the top ranking replacing them in their rankings.

Yeah, the comparison is there, Nghitumbwa is tall and has a good job, but maybe Casimero's camp underestimate him that's why he wasn't able to put him down for good.

So who's next for Casimero? I doubt that he will get the winner of Fulton vs Inoue instantly. He will still need to go to other fighters in the WBO ranking because he can fight for the championship.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Distinctin on May 14, 2023, 03:01:31 AM

the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have , but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


I have to agree to what you have said above, Team Quadro Alas may have underestimated Nghiyumbwa because of his lack of experience in fighting overseas and that might be the result of Casimero's overconfidence. Kudos to Nghitumbwa for giving Casimero a very competitive fight, he could have not continued after that knockdown in the sixth but he showed resilience and toughness that he could stand up after that scary knockdown.

Styles make a fight that we can't say that Casimero is on not Inoue's level but definitely the latter will be the heavy favorite once they face in the ring and once that happen i know that Casimero's training will be much different that his preparation against Nghitumbwa.

Congrats to all who bet for Casimero via decision, that was a very good odds.

I hope they will change that kind of mentality as it might cost them a fight. You know, Casimero is currently making an impressive journey, and if he loses a fight, it could put his career at risk, potentially depriving him of a chance to compete in a championship fight. The fight he won didn't impress the fans, so I believe Casimero might not easily secure the big fight he desires.

He has slowed down a bit, and his punches aren't as powerful as they were in the past. Therefore, he must work on that problem as he may face tougher opponents in the future. Nevertheless, what's important is that he gets that win, which would be a great treat for his fellow Filipinos who watched the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: lienfaye on May 14, 2023, 03:58:33 AM
Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

He still manage to win since Nghitumbwa also lost his air, he got knock out by casimero and he didn't get great response im return. But todays fight expose Casimero's weakness since he's throwing a lot of power pumch and that make him weak and cannot able to respond heavily until late rounds he seems to be so tired and that is a huge hole to get defeated by his next opponent if he didn't work those things.

I guess he's far to win with Inoue if he show the same performance like this but let see for sure there's improvement eill happen if he face a fast and more dominant fighter.
I agree. Casimero needs to improve his stamina.  The obvious tiredness, lack of air and speed in later rounds are an indication of his weakness that his opponent might use against him. On the other side, Nghitumbwa is a good boxer as well that if given a chance to improve his skiils and gain experience, certainly he has a chance to become a champion in the future.

Anyway, many fans are looking forward for Casimero to fight Inoue but with his current performance, I don't think it's sufficient to defeat the monster. But at least he won and it's a good opportunity for him to have a bigger match. So congrats to Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: Viscore on May 14, 2023, 04:28:20 AM

Anyway, many fans are looking forward for Casimero to fight Inoue but with his current performance, I don't think it's sufficient to defeat the monster. But at least he won and it's a good opportunity for him to have a bigger match. So congrats to Casimero.

But don't worry yet because that fight will not happen anytime soon. Casimero will continue to fight to improve his ranking, while Inoue has been given an exemption not to go through the journey that Casimero had, since Inoue's championship fight was rescheduled for this July. Let's see the outcome of that, and if Inoue wins, well, maybe Casimero will have a chance to fight him if he becomes a top challenger, assuming Inoue doesn't go directly into a unification fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: danherbias07 on May 14, 2023, 04:32:04 AM

Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.
I just finished watching the replay and yes, Nghitumbwa is damn tough. We all know how strong those haymakers Casimero is throwing at him, body and chin, combos, and yet he still stood up and continued the fight.
Unanimous decision. Upon looking at the scorecards, it's just right. Casimero dominated his opponent for most of the rounds and as much I like to see a knockout by being aggressive in the final rounds, he cannot force it so he slowed down or he will make a mistake that would jeopardize his win.

Another title for the Filipinos. How many champions do we have now? 2? Astrolabio lost in a majority decision against Moloney just now. Donaire will be next.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: mirakal on May 14, 2023, 05:37:20 AM
Many options to choose from but it makes it even harder to choose ;D

I personally will bet on Casimero via decision @ 5.40 and throw some few for Casimero to finish the fight within 10-12 @ 6.40 .. I know that Casimero is looking forward to make some statement in this fight to make a huge climb in the ladder but I will not rule out the factor that Casimero's opponent might turn this into a survival game again. Just to be sure though that's why I took the decision and 10-12, but that's not even guaranteed hehe.
Somehow my bet went through just like how I imagined that this will end in the judge's hand.

Anyway, Congratulations to all bettors who also won this bout, and for John Riel Casimero of course! 8)




Anyway, many fans are looking forward for Casimero to fight Inoue but with his current performance, I don't think it's sufficient to defeat the monster. But at least he won and it's a good opportunity for him to have a bigger match. So congrats to Casimero.

But don't worry yet because that fight will not happen anytime soon. Casimero will continue to fight to improve his ranking, while Inoue has been given an exemption not to go through the journey that Casimero had, since Inoue's championship fight was rescheduled for this July. Let's see the outcome of that, and if Inoue wins, well, maybe Casimero will have a chance to fight him if he becomes a top challenger, assuming Inoue doesn't go directly into a unification fight.

Yes, soon enough that will certainly happen as long as Casimero will continue building his own hype and winning his bouts as well.
As per https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings, John Riel Casimero is now on the #5 in WBO's rankings which give him good chances to fight the winner of Fulton vs Inoue or the Mexican Panter, Luis Nery next. Hopefully that will happen this year too.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: yazher on May 14, 2023, 07:29:48 AM

Yes, soon enough that will certainly happen as long as Casimero will continue building his own hype and winning his bouts as well.
As per https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings, John Riel Casimero is now on the #5 in WBO's rankings which give him good chances to fight the winner of Fulton vs Inoue or the Mexican Panter, Luis Nery next. Hopefully that will happen this year too.

It's nice for him to win that fight by dominating his opponent and not giving him a chance to counter back, Casimero is one of a kind because no matter who his opponent is, he doesn't want to run rather he will duel him in the middle of the ring and take his opponent punches. it doesn't mean that he is not hurt by those power punches but the heart of the true champion is flowing in his vein. Just pure boxing and a great duel. He really needs to pursue that fight against Inoue because he deserves to take the chance like others but he really needs good conditioning and training before that. He can take one more fight to further increase his rank and go for Inoue next.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Cas Nghitumbwa imero vs(May 13)
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 14, 2023, 08:16:04 AM
I agree. Casimero needs to improve his stamina.  The obvious tiredness, lack of air and speed in later rounds are an indication of his weakness that his opponent might use against him. On the other side, Nghitumbwa is a good boxer as well that if given a chance to improve his skiils and gain experience, certainly he has a chance to become a champion in the future.

Anyway, many fans are looking forward for Casimero to fight Inoue but with his current performance, I don't think it's sufficient to defeat the monster. But at least he won and it's a good opportunity for him to have a bigger match. So congrats to Casimero.
It seems Casimero is looking to win via KO, so he's just keep punching and use all of his power since Nghitumbwa was knockdown in the round sixth, so he believe Nghitumbwa will not able to fight anymore. But Nghitumbwa keep standing until the last round, at least he has a good durability.

Yeah Casimero is still not enough to beat Inoue, Inoue is never tired and always try his best in every round.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Road21Bitcoin on May 14, 2023, 01:24:40 PM
Congratulations to John Riel Casimero defeating Fillipus Nghitumbwa via decision to claim the WBO Global Super Bantam. Props to Nghitumbwa "the Energy" who really lives up to this code name. I can't believe this guy survived those power punches and combos from Casimero for 12 rounds, that's a lot of damage but he managed it. And also, I'm a little disappointed with the performance of Casimero he really needs to double up his training for his upcoming matches to shut up his critics. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Pamadar on May 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Congratulations to John Riel Casimero defeating Fillipus Nghitumbwa via decision to claim the WBO Global Super Bantam. Props to Nghitumbwa "the Energy" who really lives up to this code name. I can't believe this guy survived those power punches and combos from Casimero for 12 rounds, that's a lot of damage but he managed it. And also, I'm a little disappointed with the performance of Casimero he really needs to double up his training for his upcoming matches to shut up his critics. 

With that experienced fighting against a good and powerful fighter, Nghitumbwa will have a good future.

I guess it's not Casimero's fault it just so happened that the opponent are really strong and can absorb those solid combinations, Casimero' attacks shows that he's aiming to impress the fans but it didn't materialize as Nghitumbwa is not willing to give the fight as easy as it has been expected by most fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: harizen on May 14, 2023, 04:17:32 PM

Good for me to see that Quadro Alas fought a hard way to win. It will surely make him to be more serious in training prior to any of his future match from now on especially if against a non popular boxer.

Kudos to Nghitumbwa for keeping up on his feet the whole match even suffering lots of strong punches from Alas the early rounds.

Casimero recognize Nghitumbwa after the fight and gives him a big thanks. Nice sportmanship.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: arwin100 on May 14, 2023, 11:08:36 PM
Congratulations to John Riel Casimero defeating Fillipus Nghitumbwa via decision to claim the WBO Global Super Bantam. Props to Nghitumbwa "the Energy" who really lives up to this code name. I can't believe this guy survived those power punches and combos from Casimero for 12 rounds, that's a lot of damage but he managed it. And also, I'm a little disappointed with the performance of Casimero he really needs to double up his training for his upcoming matches to shut up his critics. 

With that experienced fighting against a good and powerful fighter, Nghitumbwa will have a good future.

I guess it's not Casimero's fault it just so happened that the opponent are really strong and can absorb those solid combinations, Casimero' attacks shows that he's aiming to impress the fans but it didn't materialize as Nghitumbwa is not willing to give the fight as easy as it has been expected by most fans.

If he could learn for his mistakes maybe he have bright future since if he just maximize the opportunity where Casimero slowing down maybe the phase will be different. But he also slow down that's why he lost to the champ, Nghitumbwa need also to work with his stamina since he already have power. If he could improve and mix up speed and power then provably he will gain more potential with this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: mirakal on May 15, 2023, 08:17:13 AM
Congratulations to John Riel Casimero defeating Fillipus Nghitumbwa via decision to claim the WBO Global Super Bantam. Props to Nghitumbwa "the Energy" who really lives up to this code name. I can't believe this guy survived those power punches and combos from Casimero for 12 rounds, that's a lot of damage but he managed it. And also, I'm a little disappointed with the performance of Casimero he really needs to double up his training for his upcoming matches to shut up his critics. 

With that experienced fighting against a good and powerful fighter, Nghitumbwa will have a good future.

I guess it's not Casimero's fault it just so happened that the opponent are really strong and can absorb those solid combinations, Casimero' attacks shows that he's aiming to impress the fans but it didn't materialize as Nghitumbwa is not willing to give the fight as easy as it has been expected by most fans.

If he could learn for his mistakes maybe he have bright future since if he just maximize the opportunity where Casimero slowing down maybe the phase will be different. But he also slow down that's why he lost to the champ, Nghitumbwa need also to work with his stamina since he already have power. If he could improve and mix up speed and power then provably he will gain more potential with this.

Yes, he was already good enough in-terms of being durable in the middle of the fight and absorbing the opponents punches but he needed to have more than that because by the looks of it, he will never be in a situation where he can face any champion in the division right now as the boxers down the line will be enough to stop him from advancing towards the champion.

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Oasisman on May 15, 2023, 09:40:19 AM

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.

Indeed, he still have a lot of room for improvements IF he will cut on his social media involvement like vlogging and things like that. I honestly not satisfied of his performance yet and I'm not convinced  that it was a good win. I feel like he still have something in his tank better than what he just showed us with the Nghitumbwa fight. He seems like short on stamina. I think he needs more focus in practice and body conditioning especially now that he's gradually picking up the pace and building up momentum to win the future fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: btc_angela on May 15, 2023, 10:08:41 AM

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.

Indeed, he still have a lot of room for improvements IF he will cut on his social media involvement like vlogging and things like that. I honestly not satisfied of his performance yet and I'm not convinced  that it was a good win. I feel like he still have something in his tank better than what he just showed us with the Nghitumbwa fight. He seems like short on stamina. I think he needs more focus in practice and body conditioning especially now that he's gradually picking up the pace and building up momentum to win the future fights.

I agree, in the first fight of his career at 122 lbs, we didn't see the best of Casimero as Akaho quit. But this time, he was really push to the limit, but we have seen that he can still carry his power in this division when he throw that left hook and caught Nghitumbwa on the chin.

But if we are going to say see Casimero with his version right now? it might be a difficult fight for him in my opinion. He still needs of that timing, but at least in this fight, he has seen full 12 rounds already and he might have to rethink their training so that he will have more gas left in the fight is going to be extended the whole 12 rounds. But as we have said, this is still a win for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Pamadar on May 15, 2023, 12:40:12 PM

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.

Indeed, he still have a lot of room for improvements IF he will cut on his social media involvement like vlogging and things like that. I honestly not satisfied of his performance yet and I'm not convinced  that it was a good win. I feel like he still have something in his tank better than what he just showed us with the Nghitumbwa fight. He seems like short on stamina. I think he needs more focus in practice and body conditioning especially now that he's gradually picking up the pace and building up momentum to win the future fights.

I agree, in the first fight of his career at 122 lbs, we didn't see the best of Casimero as Akaho quit. But this time, he was really push to the limit, but we have seen that he can still carry his power in this division when he throw that left hook and caught Nghitumbwa on the chin.

But if we are going to say see Casimero with his version right now? it might be a difficult fight for him in my opinion. He still needs of that timing, but at least in this fight, he has seen full 12 rounds already and he might have to rethink their training so that he will have more gas left in the fight is going to be extended the whole 12 rounds. But as we have said, this is still a win for him.

Yeah, he and his camp need to rethink about their fighting strategy.

I'm not saying that he was being exposed as Nghitumbwa really fighting so well and manage to absorb his solid punches
it is something that his camp needs to work with proper the executions.

More on picking the timing of solid combinations
and to make it sure that it will take more follow-ups. Not an easy fight and good thing that he manages to continue and
not to run out of gas.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: ultrloa on May 15, 2023, 12:43:36 PM

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.

Indeed, he still have a lot of room for improvements IF he will cut on his social media involvement like vlogging and things like that. I honestly not satisfied of his performance yet and I'm not convinced  that it was a good win. I feel like he still have something in his tank better than what he just showed us with the Nghitumbwa fight. He seems like short on stamina. I think he needs more focus in practice and body conditioning especially now that he's gradually picking up the pace and building up momentum to win the future fights.

I agree, in the first fight of his career at 122 lbs, we didn't see the best of Casimero as Akaho quit. But this time, he was really push to the limit, but we have seen that he can still carry his power in this division when he throw that left hook and caught Nghitumbwa on the chin.

But if we are going to say see Casimero with his version right now? it might be a difficult fight for him in my opinion. He still needs of that timing, but at least in this fight, he has seen full 12 rounds already and he might have to rethink their training so that he will have more gas left in the fight is going to be extended the whole 12 rounds. But as we have said, this is still a win for him.

Many fans notice that he's easily got run out of gas so he need to train more to increase his stamina since this is so important for him to last long in his fight. if he didn't take an action with this issue maybe he's opponent will take advantage of his weakness. But for sure to many things he learn from this fight since he struggle to come up especially on late game on their match up.

I thought the fight will end immediately when Nghitumbwa got knock out but Casimero got tired so good thing he act smart and finish off his opponent by unanimous decision.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: Japinat on May 15, 2023, 06:47:52 PM

Anyway, for Casimero, he's becoming more and more used to his new weight class and I think he can still improve his performance on his way for the championship belt. He still got some room left before he can face one of the champions before one of them will unify it. Still rooting for him to have that chance especially now that he got successive wins.

Indeed, he still have a lot of room for improvements IF he will cut on his social media involvement like vlogging and things like that. I honestly not satisfied of his performance yet and I'm not convinced  that it was a good win. I feel like he still have something in his tank better than what he just showed us with the Nghitumbwa fight. He seems like short on stamina. I think he needs more focus in practice and body conditioning especially now that he's gradually picking up the pace and building up momentum to win the future fights.

I agree, in the first fight of his career at 122 lbs, we didn't see the best of Casimero as Akaho quit. But this time, he was really push to the limit, but we have seen that he can still carry his power in this division when he throw that left hook and caught Nghitumbwa on the chin.

But if we are going to say see Casimero with his version right now? it might be a difficult fight for him in my opinion. He still needs of that timing, but at least in this fight, he has seen full 12 rounds already and he might have to rethink their training so that he will have more gas left in the fight is going to be extended the whole 12 rounds. But as we have said, this is still a win for him.

Just one to two fights more before we can say that "finally, John Riel Casimero is ready to have his chance to bite the belt", he still need some a little bit more improvement before we can say that he's already that dangerous because as of now, he still displays some weakness like endurance and lack of movement but the good thing is that Casimero eats punches which gives him some chance to stand until he can bounce back.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 15, 2023, 09:37:29 PM
Just one to two fights more before we can say that "finally, John Riel Casimero is ready to have his chance to bite the belt", he still need some a little bit more improvement before we can say that he's already that dangerous because as of now, he still displays some weakness like endurance and lack of movement but the good thing is that Casimero eats punches which gives him some chance to stand until he can bounce back.

I agree that his performance against Nghitumbwa was not so good but if there is an opportunity to fight for a championship belt, I think Casimero is good to go, i mean he was a champion back then and if that opportunity comes, he knows what preparation is needed for a championship fight. I'm not saying that he doesn't train for his recent fight but for me, the training was not so intense that I think he was training just to make the weight as he thinks that he could disposed of Nghitumbwa easily but that doesn't happen, he got so overconfident.