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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

This sounds pretty weird because if players can upgrade their horses, it's closer to car racing than horse racing.
It is true that at the moment there are a lot of games to bet on, but every sport is very random, so I believe that artificial intelligence will never be able to pass this barrier.
It's possible he'll be able to get close to it with quantum computers, but we still don't know that yet.

As for the metaverse, there will definitely be casinos, but I'm not sure if it will be much different from the current "live casinos".

Is there a point when "fine'tuning" or upgrading stops before betting commences? As long as they cannot make adjustments 2 seconds before the race begins, it sounds like it would be fair across the board. Last second adjustments would seem shady IMO.

It has a two dimensional effect to gamblers, some think about AI as a smart way to win against the house when gambling because they presumed it offers them a unique opportunity lime the bots could offer in making them have a better experience in gambling since everything works being automated, the second aspect is the approach the casino operators give to it as a means to cheat on their system, they think it will work less beneficial for them than how it will pay them.

I am not sure if I am getting it right but are you talking about betting on AI horses in the metaverse ?
If yes then I don't think it would be fair if people are able to tune/upgrade their horses because that would given them an unfair advantage.
There should be some kind of lock-in before the race where no changes can be done and the upgrades should be public.
So that others are able to see what upgrades others have done so that they can do it too and keep the race fair.
Still not sure on what basis the horses will win though.

I can't see how you can decide which horse to bet on. Are you able to see the features of these competing AI horses?
It could be rigged all the time much like the phony race of Yobit. You can't complain about what is unfair to this kind of game. That's how it sounds and the house typically could just program which will win, all you can do is wait for the pattern and when it is your turn to win.

It's in meta though so are we the ones riding as the jockey?

I knew a game like this on Ethereum. It's called Zed.run which let you breed your horse and join tournament with a real money entry to win the tournament prize. This kind of horse racing is indeed more fun than betting on real horse that you didn't train or breed yourself.

I’m nt updated anymore on the project because this game become pricey if you want to breed the best horse to win tournaments. Surely this type horse racing is more attractive and easy to get hook.

Have you ever read and seen about this: The Game of Silks, taking thoroughbred horse racing into the metaverse (https://pastthewire.com/the-game-of-silks-taking-thoroughbred-horse-racing-into-the-metaverse/), Looks like your dream will come true in the future.

We know there are many games today that we see such as: blackjack, poker, roulette, slots and including sports betting provided by the metaverse casino industry, which we often see and know virtual gambling, by using the payment method with crypto as a whole, it is possible for horse racing bets to be made into metaverse bets in the future, maybe some online casinos have implemented it.

Sure, if this type of horse racing is in great demand and played by gamblers, it is possible and most likely this type of horse racing game will become one of the biggest and most successful metaverse games in the future, note: horse racing games are more fun than other sports betting in the metaverse method.

That does sound like a simulated game and the population who bet on horse races would never accept it as an alternative to physical horse racing. To them the event and its crowd with the excitement is what that matters along with the money invested in. Maybe it will find a niche among the people who started their gambling exposure with online betting not the ones before that.

Definitely is possible if the company knows what it is doing.

If Metaverse becomes successful, I believe gambling will be one of the first applications that will be integrated into the Metaverse.  So yeah, I think gambling has a place with the metaverse in the future.  Gambling is one of the best options to attract users.  We have seen how huge the gambling industry is, so it is a no-brainer that gambling will be integrated into the Metaverse.

Simulation is one of the popular genres in the gaming industry so I think horse training simulation plus horserace betting will attract lots of players and have them invest money into that project.  The only downside is that those who have deep pockets will definitely monopolize the game.

Yeah the automated play out of things with AI is what makes many think AI is the right tool to use in gambling but even with all the positive results recorded by AI development and usage in games it still does not appeal to me that much knowing fully well the limitation of thos bots and the failure to make changes in second to start of the game or during games section. And I am also sure gambling sites already are aware of this new development and there will do everything possible to keep all parties fair and game outcomes uninfluenced.

AI is drawn at by many since it's void of human efforts, so too. make good use of this development there is a need for human involvement the highest that I can use AI is to analyze games and then after using it to make my own decisions during the games, so at that I could make the right adjustment and increase or adjust my game sections.

Well, most likely that the game will be rigged since everything is controlled before the race has started. And even if you see that particular horse has a lot of potentials to win, you can never guarantee that it will be declare as the winner. Probably the outcome of the game has already been set, regardless of how those horses perform at the middle of the race. That’s why AI gambling seems not valid and not worth my bet.

would you mind sharing a link to the project? I am curious about the process of "fine-tuning" their horses, I mean do they only need to buy items to upgrade their horses or do they need to do something else in order to upgrade their horses?

are they able to turn the horses into NFT? because this sounds like would be a great way to turn it into NFT's. it reminds me of an MMORPG game I currently play where you can seal your own character into NFT and sell it, and once you sold it, the one who bought it can unseal the character and use it inside the game.

That is great as a dream but I would not love to be gambling against unreal imaginary people,for this we have already the slot machines in which we are gambling at different themes as early as ancient Egypt up to modern times.With AI then it would be even more complicated as we need time for AI to be fine tuned to that level.I asked Nova-the ChatGPT android AI app what will be the result of x game and they gave me an evasive answer that I cannot predict the future which is true otherwise we would all be millionaires and the casinos instead of opening up at the rhythm they do,they would be closing up with such rhythm.

Betting against other players we already have Texas Holdem and I think it would be great if AI was implemented here only to look at other player behaviors,I think this would be nice,and I would love this also in the metaverse.

Why would those horses need to be AI? Who would benefit from that? If the winning order of those computer made "horses" is going to be unpredictable anyway. Why not use random number generator instead?

I would definitely bet on real horses though as i could research everything about them before betting. That would give me way better edge. You can't really research computer program horses, or if you could crack that, the code would be really bad.

Technically you can call the online betting "metaverse betting" already. That's just a buzzword.

That will really be a great experience to see how my breed horses perform against others, but then again I think breeding your horses organically is more preferably compared to an AI bot or am I not getting the concepts right?

AI development may be drawn at by many platforms because of the tendency to rig the games by bots which can lead to the casino seizing your account for grieving abuse of their system.

Cool, I didn't check that ZED.run yet but by the sound of it, it seems like we become an online rancher. Or like the kind of small robots we use to play called Tamagotchi only this time we breed an online horse.

I'm guessing you can feed the horse and let it drink a particular made-up vitamin for it to run faster and all. In short, you can modify its behavior to win a race. Seem easy to figure out a trick to win.

Yeah, the ability to modify the behaviour of the horse is what makes breeding a horse better than using a bot AI since AI behaviour can not be modified when it has already been configured to act in a particular manner.  This development has been an exciting one and the whole possibility of things has made it easy and more fun for gaming.

And if things continue in this manner in no distant time we will see more improved development that could solve some of the challenges faced with using bots and provide a better way to interact with the bot during the game session.

Is different a betting method or a betting algorithm than an AI... I have done some betting bots in the past with a betting algorithm, you know, double after X losses, change the multipliers and stop after x win. And even if its a smart betting method is not an AI because to make form it an AI it should take it's own decisions.

If you ask to an AI for the best betting method since it's smart it will say, avoid betting against a game with a house edge, there is no single method to win in the long run.

Well, I think that the Metaverse indeed has some place in the future, but that future is very far way in my opinion.
the current experience is simply not immersive enough to be appealing for people or gamblers in general.

Also we could argue that the source of entropy or percentage of winning could be easily manipulated. We like to bet on horses or football teams because we assume that all the parties involved are doing their best to out-perform their foes, and they go through intensive training and preparation in before.
The AI gambling would take all those variables away and with it, part of the experience which much people may like.
 

 

That could be an amazing game where you can bet for your own pet, and I think this could be the future of Metaverse betting but I’m not sure how the AI will work on this one. If the casinos site introduces a game where you can have control or breed your on pet that you will use later on for a race is indeed more entertaining but since most of the gamblers are not a gamer, we might not see a huge adoption with this one.

don't underestimate gamblers. because if they can get good winnings out of it, they will surely explore that also. you know, gamblers are willing to venture other sports so long they are seeing potential source of money.
right now, such game is not yet developed but once they see its potential, gamblers will flock on this game. there's no hype yet because it is not yet well developed. let's see once they start seeing good money out of this and it will explode like those p2e gaming platforms.

^This is interesting, probably this kind of concept was already on the Roblox game which I also don't sure about.
Yes, that is possible to make bets on AI-generated horses in a virtual horse racing game. These games allow players to create, train and fine-tune their own virtual horses, which can then compete against other players' horses in virtual races which seems to me to think it is a pet as you have said. The outcomes of these races are determined by algorithms and random number generators, rather than real-life events so this is how your pet works in this game.

This could be an amazing innovation following the current trend.
Haven’t tried to play any of those game but if there’s a good site that will start to introduce it then why not. Gamblers can be a gamer too, using AI though might not still be ideal but eventually we can be able to maximize it and have more fun using it, I’m not expecting though that AI will increase your chance of winning because after all this is still gambling.

I don't think these AI-based games will be very enjoyable, and gamblers cannot bet on them for many reasons, the most important of which is that this sport relies on complex programming instructions that can be manipulated by the casino. However, if it becomes clear to gamblers that they can earn real revenue by betting on bots, they will join them. Personally, I don't like these types of games because they require a lot of knowledge about their development capabilities.

If there is one project like this its better to post the link to that project out of curiosity and to avoid speculation and misconception about the project, it's not to promote the said project but to see how it works all I know is there are projects like this in the PLAY TO EARN niche but its not horses.

This kind of concept is not new in the Play to Earn but I don't see this being integrated by casinos the profit is not attractive for casinos and not all gamblers are good at this as they will be beaten by real gamers.

as far as I remember, there was also someone who discussed this, but I think the topic has been buried far away, if we talk about AI and the metaverse, then we won't stop fantasizing because it will be really extraordinary

The aim of most metaverse projects is to make people in different parts of the world connected in real-time but with a virtual concept, and I believe that in the future for those who like racing (not only horses but also F1) will definitely be able to see their favorite races in the metaverse, without must visit directly there

I believe the thread you're referring to was the one where the users asked if predicting games with AI is advisable or not.

Back to Op, I have a strong feeling that in the distant future, the metaverse might have a place in the gambling industry but that's going to take constant development in the metaverse although I don't know how long it's going to take but with time we'll get to see it happen.
I'm not an expert in AI or whatever computer-based games but I surely do bet on sports and I'm still not life games are going to get implemented in metaverse gambling or if perhaps they'll create a system where on can play the games as if they're in real life.

This sounds like virtual game where the matches are not even real. It is computer based and gamblers bet on different clubs on which one is going to win. Sometimes you might be lucky enough to keep winning but that will does not always last because of the way the game is programed to work.

actually the game is a program the game so which everybody know anything concerning visual game is computerized game so you are not assured of winning you are not as short of what you are doing because it is a game of trial so when you are lucky enough it is when you have the advantages of the game by winning

It's like simulated or virtual type of races. Yes, this is very plausible and maybe some service already has this type of way of gambling.

We're already seeing the potential of AI not unless this is just a fad but it seems not because it will be integrated with too many things and jobs. While we saw the craze for NFT games and so. And then, this could really be part of the future gambling because in most games, RPGs, esports and etc.

Gambling is already being done, you'll be overwhelmed to know how much money is going in and out with these knowing that they're just all games.

Something like fantasy sports? I mean I guess it's fine, idk how they make fantasy sports have some semblance of randomized factors ( so that higher stats doesn't mean a guranteed win) but if it also has that, then why not? I was afraid of fantasy sports (or any simulated sports really) simply being a battle of numbers, but if some sort of algorithm/AI was placed that could ensure numbers isn't all, then I reckon it'd be fine.

It being famous is another thing though, there's still real sports out there after all.

Additionally, you can say that some semblance of a "metaverse" is already a thing. Look at vrchat, at minecraft. It's just a matter of a company being able to adopt and combine all of these so that they're all in one kind of thing. Metaverse(Facebook) failed at that spectacularly though, they just made a downgraded version of vrchat iirc.

i am a bit familiar with some games locally offered here on our countries containing this kind of specs in a specific game like:

* stats
* can be breed

it is a little bit similar to online horse racing, but you have to acquire your own horse just like how few years ago axie is very popular. although it is not that quite popular here on our area i'm pretty sure with the addition of AI i think it will be known sooner or later.

Are you talking about making predictions with an AI-Language model? Are you going to train your AI to do that? Because I know the Chat-GPT stuff are not trying to let you bet right? Or is there like a work around it?

Isn't it already happening? With the metaverse making it possible for others to put bets online? Do you mean metaverse where you are in the virtual world and you have actual online "tangibility" of things all around the NFTs or something like that?

If the AI horse race game in provably fair, then definitely you can bet on it, else real horse racing will be better to bet on. If there is no proof that whether the AI horse races are fair, then there might be some glitches explored by the sites with the game, and hence I would suggest not to play the game. As whenever you gamble, you need to always check about the fairness of the game. If you ask me, then personally I don’t like Artificial Intelligence to interfere in my games, but still it’s quite debatable on the decision. So it’s upto you OP what you wanna do and what not.

Anything that sounds interesting is worth gambling on. Now that most gambling platforms can be found online, we shouldn't be surprised if they make innovations that attract more gamblers. With numerous online games available for gambling, it's possible that new and exciting platforms will emerge.

However, legalities should also be considered, as unregistered gambling platforms are illegal and unlikely to succeed in the long run.

this is mostly what happened here in our country since there are influencers who are endorsing untrusted gambling platform although it is not mostly crypto related (they offer a bit of bitcoin lottery), a lot has taken interest since it has simple mechanics and it way cheaper than other gambling platforms in which you are required hefty sum of money. i am no longer shocked when the time comes that will be AI powered casinos to come out later this year of early next year, but of course as you've said legalities should be prioritized and if not it won't take too long for that platform to be labeled as illegal or much worse another exit scam casino.

I think it depends on whether or not someone has to buy items to "fine-tune" their horse. That would be quite an interesting move because it opens up a whole different business model for casinos. It goes into the direction of pay-to-play games, these mobile games where you can accelerate certain processes or skip levels to make progress.

In theory casinos could offer you items for small money to fine-tune your horse as in the example of OP, and the opponents could do the same. They could neutralize each other and the casino takes a cut as well from selling bonus items.

Or is it just fine-tuning without paying for it? But that is quite difficult. As was said before here that if you can do it car racing, then it would make sense, but in horse racing? Like what, change their nutrition? :D

AI gambling means that there are no human intervention in any of the bets. The casino operator has no control over the outcome of the bets and the gambler has no control over the placing of the bets. So you leave your money in the hands of the AI to place the bets on your behalf.

I do not believe a lot of people will trust AI enough to do the betting for them, do you? There are already "Bots" being used, but that is not AI, because those bots are configured in advance by a human to perform a specif repetitive command.  ::)

The future has a lot in store, and as every industry develops, we expect the same for the gambling industry, we expect to see a new type of gambling that will be a step further from gambling with cryptocurrency that was something very unimaginable some years ago.

Gambling in metaverse will be possible, maybe by then it will be with AI as you have described or another way, but there will be a provision for gambling in the metaverse. The Metaverse will include as many things that will make it fun for people to want to return, gambling is a fun activity so it will have a place in the Metaverse.

It will be a good idea if the developers craft the whole innovation well, gamblers don't care about anything more than winning, even if the games are AI based they will give a try or even they heard about people making some nice gains from the game, but metaverse with gambling isn't a necessary combination, it's not a must.

Right now things are looking good for online casinos, gamblers are happy with Slots and Roulette, and others that are presently available on gambling platforms, the only innovation that I believe that gambling can benefit from is AI, not the metaverse.

AI can help gambling platforms to reduce fraud and improve necessary checking among new incoming gamblers to the online casino.

I prefer to bet on real horses because it's more enjoyable for me. However, some people like to bet on new games and there is something called AI that is not new in the market. If we can learn and enjoy it, why not try it? But I would still limit my bet, as betting on real horses is different from betting on horses generated only by a computer.

I think I heard this, is this something about the NFT horse where you can train or breed your horse and then register it to tournament to compete and win money? I think that was some really a good way or new system to gamble it would be a good investment too that instead people would buy horse they can invest to NFT horse breed it or probably place bet on good breed horses.

I don`t sure that i understand right. But as i think the OP is talking about something about online game where gamers grow up their horses. I don`t sure that it is about gambling it is mostly about games. And i don`t think that it would be more interesting than horse betting in real life.

I'd rather bet on a real horse than an AI horse because I don't know what that looks like.
Maybe it will be like a game on the computer and we will compete with the computer.
If the Metaverse project can keep going and release even better updates, I think it could impact the gambling business, but I still don't know what that will look like.
The Metaverse will probably be like the real world and we can be in it but it's still a long way to go and needs improvement for the project so we'll just have to wait and see.

It's very weird, like having a virtual horse that you need to take care of and train so that they are good at horse racing. I haven't heard of this kind of betting, but can you provide links and your research because there are really factors that it can be cheated at or that it is very different from the real thing as there are factors like the horse being tired or not used to the temperature, etc.

What I think of all this is that if such a thing can be done,it is completely Manipulative by anyone, or by whoever is going to make the game, decides or not when it wins and who Loses or wins, an AI can do that, Or simply make anyone lose, I don't know, but in normal games there is Provably Fair, what can exist here? If it's an A, something that still needs to be developed but still has a lot to talk about, personally these things have to be very well Looked at before playing with something like that, just as a precautionary measure, those who launch into playing is already a matter of them.

Yes definitely, metaverse is going to be the next big thing in gambling. It's going to have a much bigger than AI in my opinion. The big difference between physical casinos and online casinos is the social interaction with other gamblers. The games we play online and offline are the same, it's the atmosphere which is different. Anybody who has played in Las Vegas knows the excitement when entering a huge casino where everybody gambles. When playing from home it's more more about our own gambling and making money than having a good time. Having the chance to interact other gamblers and watch how they win or lose is going to be a huge evolution of the gambling industry. Once VR setups become more common it's going to be a lot of new possibilities for casinos.

It's more of a gaming than we say it as gambling because it involves skills of the players so I think it's some kind of eSports activity. Metaverse is a technology which is still being developed and with the evolution of AI its not that far to achieve and there is no doubt that it will give us the better experience compared to online gaming/gambling.

Well, it's like a virtual horse racing game and players compete online with each other by fine-tuning their horses by leveling them up and stuff, and the horses with the highest levels, stamina, health, etc. will be able to beat the others in the competition, of course, such games are always fun and people love getting involved with things like that.

About gambling in something like that, I think the platform or the project providing that opportunity will need to gain significant success in order for sportsbooks to add the matches conducted in the game to be available for others to bet on, or they will probably need to create a betting option for the games within the platform.

I'm just still digesting what the OP meant earlier, worried that there would be confusion in this discussion, so I'm just sharing my opinion from what I caught, I've seen a kind of horse NFT game from Zed run whether they're still active or not, but as far as I know look they have a horse racing game using NFT, well even though I have never tried it but I have seen a youtube video of a horse racing game on zed.run.

But talking about AI gambling, I'm not sure the game will be useful and many gamblers are interested in playing it because games involving AI don't necessarily look attractive for gamblers to play, let alone use the metaverse, currently not many use it en masse either because of that technology too still not so perfect and still in the stage of better development. but it seems interesting if there is a horse racing game where we can raise it ourselves as well as train it

AI is now being a part the innovation of gambling so more developments involving AIs should be expected in the future. It could be through NFTs, Esports, and so on. Yes, it could give us a deeper and more exciting experience with gambling. Since we have switched to online gambling nowadays, we can expect more innovation since technology these days continuously improves and develops.

"Should be expected in the future", I guess that's the bottom line of AI/Metaverse gambling games and casinos. A lot of talking around, and hype started based on some video animations and ideas about how all that should look. I think we are still far from that, 10 years for sure, and probably even longer before we see anything concrete and available for the masses.
I am not really sure what we can expect from Metaverse and AI in the future. There's something interesting about all that, but before we get a chance to try it it's just dreaming around.

In this case it's beyond the normal kind of virtual games we know, it has to do with AI inclusion where players have a great influence on the performance of the "horses" by having to enhance the abilities of the horse they chose in the race. On a deeper thought, the access to this enhancement of the performance of the horse by the player may not be free of charge and also, am not sure the gambling house may wanna accept the introduction of such metavers games in the house as the winning odds is more on the side of the gambler compared to the house.

if in the future you could put on some glasses that would materialize our conscience for a virtual casino in which we could play against other people as if we were in a physical casino, I think that this would be one of the best innovations, but it will take many years before it is possible to create such a thing, as that doesn't exist yet I have no other interest in AI in gambling, I've read somewhere about the possibility of AI predicting the results of games, but I don't trust in such a thing, I prefer that I personally do the analysis of the game game and then I place a bet on the game I analyzed, trust the AI to make predictions

then placing bets based on the AI prediction then the person is no longer a complete bettor and I very much doubt that the AI would manage to have good results capable of surpassing the experience of professional bettors, in the past I also heard things like AI to predict day trade, but everything I saw was a failure and now it's AI in gambling that I also think will be another failure. I hope that at least people don't get fooled into playing based on the AI's predictions, because they will lose money

Like with real computer games? Upgrades and such? I'd probably pass on this one. Upgrades would indeed help a gambler to win but since we are talking about AI, it is a bit confusing. If you're into horse racing then for sure you'd be more fond or live horses 'coz it gives a better experience. This would seem like those games we play on ads and I think it would be a double risk; one for the game itself and another one for the upgrades. Which I think would be more risky than with traditional horse racing wherein luck would be the determinant of the outcome. I don't also see how AI would be beneficial in gambling in the first place. Let it be gambling as is.

Something like that has existed for a long time, I remember there was a mechanical game which simulated horse races and people gambled on which horse would win, so it makes sense that someone is adapting this game to the digital era, and about gambling and the metaverse you can be sure that in the metaverse created by the likes of Facebook gambling would not be allowed, as they would like to keep things as safe as possible, but on other metaverse platforms this could probably be allowed and you will be able to realize your dream.

Having to bet on Ai does not sound cool to me to be sincere, but I think it's OK if the Ai will be under the control of human being, like it is with video games, betting on Ai horse is cool as long as real human beings are the ones in charge of their own horses respectively, it is their duty to keep their horse in shape at all time for better performance on the field of race, it's a cool idea.

But like I said before, if this supposed Ai horse are the ones in control of themselves, it's not cool betting on such..

I have no idea about AI powered horses and horse racing, but if I may give my opinion on this:


Definitely! I can totally see how gambling could be a thing in the metaverse in the future. With all these cool new virtual reality technologies coming out, it's getting easier and easier to make virtual environments where people can hang out and do stuff together. I think gambling would be a great thing to do in a metaverse, especially if it's built on top of existing gambling platforms. Gambling is already a very popular activity, and I can see it being even more so in the future. So I think it's definitely something that could be huge in the metaverse.

My question is that will the game of AI horses will become so popular that people will start betting on it ? The AI horses are basically run by the machine with no human intervention and the horses programmed efficiently will always have more chances to win. And by the way, since its, not a physical game, you can replace the horses with any object like cars etc  ???

And I agree that there may be no comparison to watching and betting on real horses than to bet on these so-called "Programmed AI Horses."

If you're betting on real horses you will not like the idea there's nothing like betting on real horses and analyzing their strengths and weaknesses, these horses on AI can be manipulated, and the human experience of seeing the horses you bet in real life is enjoyable, than betting in AI-generated horse because, in the back of your mind, you will think that its fake and manipulated and you will not like the experience.
AI can be used in many industries but the horse racing betting industry will not welcome this idea and will not accept replacement betting in real life.
 

If we will spend money to bet, then at least we should go where there are higher chances of winning than to spend in betting where the result of the game is already programmed since the horses involved are not real but only imaginary. That’s the reality with AI gambling, that’s why I don’t see it more attractive to gamble as I’m used to bet in physical casinos where everything is visible and games are real and not imaginary.

^ I understand your point because we know virtual gambling, such as AI-generated horse racing, may not have the same appeal for some people. But virtual gambling has some advantages over traditional gambling. For example, it can be more convenient, as it can be done from the comfort of your own home. It can also be more accessible, as it may be available in areas where traditional gambling is restricted. Whether or not virtual gambling is attractive depends on personal preference. Some people may find it appealing due to its convenience and accessibility, while others may prefer the excitement of traditional gambling.

And most likely, if it’s computer generated, the game is more corrupted that will give us unlikely results that’s quite far from our predictions. So the essence and effectivity of the game will be lessen. That’s why i don’t easily bet on AI games, and when I bet maybe it’s just to experience something new, and nothing more than that. I still prefer to bet on games that I can perfectly see with my own two eyes physically.

AI gambling doesn't sounday less ridiculous compared to trading with an AI.

When it comes to simulations, I think that makes some sense as, it cuts across seasonings and having to wait on your sports event to come through before you continue gambling.

Simulation gambling has been around, horse race, dog race or even football. These have been around for sometime and there isn't anything new of it as it somehow keeps you gambling.

You've got to be cautious though as, its some of the easiest way to lose money quickly.

    -  Do you mean racing robot horses built by AI? So what is the name of the project you are talking about? Besides what you said, when did gambling online become a dream? Honestly, what you say is also weird...

Now, when the robot horses are said to be racing, it means that there is a high chance that someone is controlling the robot horse. It's hard to bet on that compared to racing natural horses.

When we are talking about NFT games i don`t think that it is something common with AI gambling. In such games the big part of the result depends on how the player grows up his horse. And after it some algo calculates the winner. I can`t say that it is AI gambling - just NFT game with horses.

Gambling like that is much more challenging since you are the one taking care of the horse (fine tuning) so that you can beat other player's horses. Some games nowadays in gambling have AI like the horse race. Live horses have records too but the downside is we don't know the real condition of the horse unlike in AI horses where the owners are the one who are taking care of the horse up to it's peak or having much better breed of the horse. AI gambling is not bad or in my perspective, AI gambling is okay.

I'm not sure how that works but for me as long as it is safe and they can't rigged it then I would probably try it out. Do you have the link of the website on what you are talking about? I'm getting curious about it and I think that was more better than the traditional horse betting, why? first it will not use real horse which I think are bred for racing and of course it's not 24/7 unlike this AI horse racing where you can place bet 24/7.

If you're a gamer you can relate to how this AI horse-generated game works, but if you're horse betting on live horse racing it will be unacceptable, nothing can replace the excitement when real horses are the ones vying to be the fastest horse on a lap.
These AI-generated games can gain support because there is a gaming community that is open to adopting these AI-generated games, but it's still up to the gambling community if they are open to accepting AI-generated games.

They will probably receive support, but not as much as traditional sports betting. We know that the sports betting industry is a huge billion-dollar industry. So even if AI horse racing becomes popular, it will still be just one of the many online games that provide excitement when we place a bet. However, it will compete to the traditional sports betting when it comes to market share.

I think that gambling as a place in metaverse and its a one of kind chance. Probably new kind of games could emerge or just new way to place a bet. In any case It Will be something big for sure.

Regarding real horse racing, if you followed you know very well that is something impossible to virtualize.
Ok there are manu attempts and examples but the real ones are simply amazing.

No one will remember a virtual horse. Meanwhile a nome like Frankel/Varenne/Kauto star It will stand forever in annals and memories of gamblers ;)

Betting on traditional horse races is more fun because we have to be able to choose a horse that has a greater chance of winning than other horses. This requires collecting more complete data to find the right horse. As for the AI horse, @OP said that we could develop it into a perfect horse that can beat the opponent's AI horse. And that's where the fun we find in betting on traditional horse racing comes from.

This doesn't sound surprising to me. AI horse rising is like dog race that has been existing . But to make bets on real horses can be virtualized in metaverse where two or more people can bet on that. This reminds me of traditional polo games, a field sport that involves horses played with wooden mallet striking on a hard ball to score the opponent. I won't be surprised if this is existing likewise.

I think you are talking about a Metaverse game where it would be possible to have virtual horses ruled by AI, which are possible to be improved and upgraded for better performances during the races, that can generate profit for gamblers who guess the winners correctly.

Well, there are every kinds of plans and ideas on this niche of crypto industry, but if it would work for real it's another story. Personally, I see gamblers wouldn't go through this whole process in order to place some bets on horses, since they can simply do this on physical races that happen in real time and don't rely on virtual mechanisms, such as AI and Metaverse, to work.

For me it's a no, I can't bet on an AI horse because it can be manipulated behind the scene, even with real horses some big powerful people use strength injections, I don't know the real names, on the horses before a race, and there have been many dirty secrets revealed in horse racing games, those secrets get revealed because it's real horses and humans, compare it to AI horses, it will be hard to know that it's been manipulated. The idea is brilliant but I doubt it can be perfected without many flaws, I will love to see such a thing turning into reality.

This reminds me about one NFT based project and it was once popular one on the bitcointalk itself. The name was IOTA gaming. They had similar concept about the car racing. The higher the version of your car it was obviously easier to win the game. The catch was all of them were NFT based cars. You had to buy them to upgrade them. Beta used to start prior to racing and thus creating a winning amount depending on how you done with the race.

There was no actual race animation. There were just timer, and 2D representation on whose car is progressing where etc etc.

I think what you described already happened in the NFT world. If that happens in metaverse then good luck mate, but it’s really not going to work the way you are imaging it.

80% of gamblers yes but the rest 30% care only about the games, design, and other similar features. Both type of players will play new innovations in the gambling arena such as this AI but both of them can also stop playing on it if they think they are unlucky on it or if adding AI only makes the game ugly. If they will try AI then why not the metaverse when both are the same. They make things more futuristic.

Let's add in the NFT because it's also part of the metaverse. This should make the game more fun to play and maybe profitable if one is strategic. AI works well in security purposes and even our phones now have AIs. It will surely help combat the frauds.

;D sorry but how can you want to see betting on Ai horses turn into reality, but you've at the beginning said it's a no for you, simply means you are not sure whether you will bet on them or not..

And besides, real horses don't have names, they only have number tags, this is for the ones I've seen though, I don't know if other persons have seen one with names, but for me, all the horse races I've watched, the horses participating in the race are tagged with a number, and no name.

AI usage is a total no no for me since the outcome of games can be unpredictable and so bit can not give a proper analysis of the game and its possible outcome,  this has been the proven flaw of the AI project and that is what place human efforts s above artificial intelligence and this have made it inaccurate for AI too. Make the right game predictions.

I will prefer to naturally breed any horse I want to use in the game rather than relying on the less effort of the AI bot to make critical games decision for me.

The AI thing is something that can be quite controversial, I haven't tried anything with the iIA, it would be interesting in casino games, but for it to give some kind of result it has to be integrated with the platform and that's not something uqe I see it well because no casino would Accept that a player does that from an AI, I don't see another that can play it, and if it is done step by step without integrating it, it would be something very unstable, I think that the AI does not have the ability to predict, in gambling is not very good because you would lose more.

That is perhaps true for today and ChatGPT can't give you proper answers yet when you ask it who is going to win the next game, but seriously what do you think how long we are away from AI systems that scape the entire Internet for relevant information in order to then come up with a prediction on a certain game.

I would even say that it is interesting whether AI at some point would be better and guessing outcomes of sports bets than a human being. I doubt it because the luck factor can't be overcome by anyone. Neither by a human being nor by a superior AI. But perhaps AI can aggregate and evaluate more information in a more precise way than human beings in terms of reducing the range or magnitude of error. It can't ever be without errors because soccer is about luck per se. AI would have never said that AC Milan wins against Napoli.

Ai usually bases its answers on reliable data online which I think could be its edge over human prediction. They have a well-generated system that can easily track data regarding a certain game as well as the players. Some people might doubt it for now but as time passes by, I'm sure that more improvements and developments could be done to make AI predictions 100% accurate.

This is just the early stage of the AI development, I am very sure that with time AI is going to dominate the world and I hope that it is not going to be mostly used for evil. In gambling AI is going to work well and I think we are going to enjoy it. Based on op description, there are more to come and we all going to see the difference between real life horse and computer which is AI race. I think they are going to make some  more adjustment to make it looks real for people to have the full though of playing or riding an horse for the competition. With time we are going to see more of this in other fields too.

In that case of having a programmatically game which is the horses race game I guess the gambling casino must need to be transparent to their players regarding the game to make sure there's no bias on it even though it's the same a the other gambling game still people expecting to have a fair game. In terms of gambling with the real horse better to have a background check with the horse and riders statistics to have an idea if they are possible to win or not and if you just taking a risk to play.

I never bet on animals, in this case, horses. But perhaps, it would be interesting if we could bet on AI horses where we could perfect the horse so it could become a strong horse and beat the horses made by other players.

And I think racetracks like that could be included in a Metaverse project because they wouldn't be real but could look like they were. And I have no idea what the horse race will look like. Perhaps, it could be like a real horse race or something different from what we know. But with the current appearance of the metaverse, I don't think it can attract people to want to experience it because the graphic display itself needs to be perfected.

As much as you think AI predictions could become 100% accurate, as much do I disagree with that statement 100%! :P

There is no such thing as a 100% prediction accuracy for sports games. How does the AI system know whether a key player breaks his leg in the upcoming game and can't help the team anymore after 7 minutes have been played? Or how does the AI system predict that Kevin Durant suffers from an Achilles tendon rupture? These events can have a severe influence on the game and AI can't ever know it. How does AI know whether a tennis player suffers from an injury as it happened several times to Nadal?

It’s still a different experience when you bet for real horses since you will know which of them will be an effective horse racer, rather than betting on fake horses and you will fake your experience too. Maybe for gamblers from this new generation might accept and enjoy it, but for most of us here who are used to traditional betting, most especially when it comes to horse racing, it’s proven that the best experience happens when you see your favorite real horse comes ahead in the race.

Sincerely I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence I don't know why I am not convinced by AI development and its performance because Artificial intelligence can not do human work properly even though it looks as if it will solve human duties and problems with less effort.

We are still in the early stage of this discovery and as it is, there have already been some recognisable bad effects and usage of this development. But let's see how things keep developing to See if AI will o e day march ul with human efforts

For example, what are the vulnerabilities of AI? 
Here's an example - you take to play chess with AI. 
It is clear that you will lose if the AI ​​decides that he needs to win.  But he can decide that he must lose to you for some reason of his own?  But it is obvious that potentially he is still much stronger than you in chess, and the fact that he lost means he deliberately succumbed to you in the game, made stupid moves.  And this is an outright lie. 
This is how AI can begin to accept human thoughts and moods.  And such a lie on a large scale in the end can lead to the beginning of AI dominance over all of humanity in general.  Moreover, AI always has all the information that is on the Internet and in general from surveillance cameras, listening devices, and so on.  This is where the version of the film "The Matrix *" begins.  :( Maybe not in such a harsh version, of course, but still unpleasant.
So even now games with AI do not seem so harmless to me. No wonder someone already guessed to create a new protection institute  from dangers from AI.

It's not about robot horses, I didn't see any mention of a robot by OP, what he mentioned is AI and AI doesn't only work with robots. Is ChatGPT a robot? No, it's just a software program utilizing artificial intelligence to answer the questions or come up with as accurate an answer as possible using the data that has been fed to it.

What's being discussed is having a virtual race of horses, just like in a metaverse, where users will have aliases and there will be programmed horses that are managed and leveled up by people and then used to race with them, the ones with the highest levels will probably be the best out there.

Exactly the breeding horse is some kind of program the players will feed the horse with all the necessary things that will make it fit to race against other horses in the games this is different from Artificial intelligence bot development, this breeded horse acts according to the owner control and the player can breed them to a state where other horses in the game will not be able to compete against them.

AI can't be controlled by the player and it acts according to its programming for the first source with the inability to change or act according to the situation during the game.

What do you refer to when you say there have been some recognizable bad effects of Artificial Intelligence? We all know that it's still at its early stage of development and we are yet to see a lot of things happening around the technology, the adoption level isn't that high at the moment nor there are any big tech firms utilizing it mainly for any of their projects.

I don't know why you don't like the idea of artificial intelligence when it's clearly one of the best innovations of this era which will definitely erupt in the near future and we will see it covering every single sector for good.

Mate not that I don't like the idea of artificial intelligence AI has changed the face of things lately with its ability to complete tasks faster than human efforts, but what I was trying to point out this the fact that we should and can not rely totally on artificial intelligence without being willing to contribute our human efforts to the result that our bots can produce to get the best and accurate results.

But then Artificial intelligence + gambling could be a disaster waiting to happen and not many casinos will allow the usage of artificial intelligence in games it can be detected the account could get a possible ban.

AI hourses? For real? What's around the corner, cybernetic alicorns? Please, humans, let's hold on to reality. Nothing tops the symphony of hooves pounding the turf, the exhilaration of a flesh-and-blood jockey vying for the win.

As for metaverse gambling? Puh-lease. I'll stick to the tangible realm, with bona fide folks and actual cash. Virtual tomfoolery? No thanks. Sure, a futuristic video game escapade sounds tempting, but let's face it: the pulse-quickening action of wagering on a true contender is unbeatable.

So, let's brush off AI equines and metaverse mayhem, leaving them to the sci-fi aficionados. Embrace the genuine world, where horses gallop in earnest and the stakes soar. Who's on board?

It is difficult because what is most taken into consideration is that the AI helps the player more than to protect a casino and what many seek is to win,they cannot be banning everyone who Enters who uses an AI, in casinos they have to do many Things to protect yourself, invest more in Security and AI is Undoubtedly one of the Skills that they have the most from now on,and I say it like this from now on because they are already Using and testing AIs, and AIs like Chatgpt are those that are the first Option,if you ask the right questions you can't be successful?

For sure artificial intelligence will favour the player more than the casino, in fact the casino have zero befefits while the player have 99% advantages over the casino,  take for example a situation where a player play the entire game session using bots that give 99% winning ratio.

But then fur casino will have a standing system to check the possibility of bot access to games, I guess the AI development is relatively a new discovery that need adequate study to understand it impeded risks, and going by the current situation we don't have any successful bot that have won games entirely so that point to the fact that AI still need human efforts.

I don't know about the person you answered to, but am surprised if you don't see the dangers. And i am not talking about skynet scenarios.

But the main worry is disinformation. When you can fabricate stories with pictures and videos as a proof that you can't distinguish from a real thing. And you can manufacture them 10000+ times faster then debunking fake news, people start to lose trust on the evidence and science as they have already started to lose it. That distrust to scientific research only benefits one kind of leadership model and that's total dictatorship.

You can probably use AI to predict live matches to gamble though. So that's fun.

Intended failure? An age-old human strategy, huh? Laughs aside, I get your point of view. Just think about how far AI's imagination may run if it began to fabricate lies about something as trivial as a chess match. Maybe it has been lying to us about the weather, or even about the existence of aliens.

So, now artificial intelligences rule over humankind. Science fiction hocus pocus, if you will. AI won't develop into a race of robot masters, right? Are we going to, though?

However, jokes aside, I do think it's important to consider the possible vulnerabilities of AI and to put protections in place. We can't know what kind of jam we'll be in if we relax our guard

If a project is to create such a game and make it too graphically good and make the game so fun and interesting like showing the races in real-time to players and every horse should be positioned based on their actual rank in the system and their level which has been upgraded by their human operator, they will need to hire expert developers.

They wouldn't need much work if they only design an app and make things work just like a fantasy app where you can only see the stats, results and etc. and it doesn't show you the matches in real-time and thus doesn't need much work.

I would certainly would like to see ChatGPT to play poker with amateurs based on a learning sample of masters and see how it plays out. I am pretty sure it can beat most of the for-fun players and perhaps some of the semi-pros. It is a game of calculation, patterns and chance and there is a method to it. I think an AI would be perfectly suited to exploit it. Hint hint.

It will be better if they can be audited by a third party so that we are sure that all games are fair. I think that AI based games are being exposed the most than the live games because they are just based on software and someone that is good at computers or so called hackers can access the game and check if there are anomalies going on.

People behind the live games are making sure that the cheating won't be noticeable if ever they are planning to cheat the game because the whole world is watching them and the consequences are heavier than the online gambling. If it's the first time then expect that there are still flaws but their devs are always going to fix it.

Perhaps, at first, the project will look simple but if the developer has a plan for where the project will be developed, he or they will make it better, at least make the game look like a real-time race. But getting there requires experimentation and time so the project can be carried out according to plan. This is possible because a lot has to be added or subtracted and replaced by codes that are expected to make the game more real. And it depends on how skilled the development team is and how creative ideas can appear when working on the project.

Ai? To me it sounds like online RPG video game, with added factor that you are able to bet on characters, which are horses here in op's context.

Regarding it's adoption, older people will likely ignore it, just as the ones who grew around online betting might not want to bother with live casinos, with some exceptions, of course.

But I'm not sure this project will go well and be liked by many gamblers because it seems more difficult.
But if they can do even better development in the future, as you have said, maybe there will be special interest from most gamblers, it's just that good development is not necessarily a guarantee that they can succeed with their projects in the future.
After all, this is just an idea or an idea for a project that has not yet been implemented, so there is still no clear certainty.
This thread reminds me of other threads that also had the idea of PVP game development projects and in the end these projects didn't go ahead so they left the thread without any clear details on it.

It's not impossible right now due to the technological massive advances, But I don't know for another If were me, I'm really not interested to play with something that doesn't seem so real. We know that the metaverse world is just like a dream we can create as we and other people want, so that case if we gamble there, like playing in not real world which means our money is not so real also. But, it's okay, maybe I'm not used to be, If often maybe it becomes something adventurous I must conquer.

Gambling does have a future with metaverse betting which we could say has alot to do with Artificial intelligence which is AI. At the moment we have things like your dream going on in the gaming world and that people from different locations can play virtually,

If games are been played virtually then there can also be bets done virtually that people from different locations can come together to bets on different games. The bets could be in the games they're playing or just logging in to bet against themselves.

There's no limitations to virtual reality which AI is a big part off, we'll see more things we can do with the technology in the future as the metaverse gets fully adopted into our daily lives, the gaming market are been conquered at the moment.

"How does AI gambling sound?" - I don't want to offend anyone, but I think it sounds stupid.

The whole "charm" of gambling is that it happens live, in the real world. Of course, the world is changing and technology is even penetrating into this area (for example, online poker), but nothing can replace a "live" game with live players or real horses, as in your example. The atmosphere of the event is important for the gamblers, including: the hippodrome, horse races, horses, bets, a lot of unforeseen circumstances that affect the final result of the games. All this adds a special charm to these gambling games, which are not so easy to refuse. But over time, more and more gambling will be held in the virtual world, this is indisputable, because the whole world is rapidly digitalizing. Therefore, the transfer of gambling to the metaverse is quite possible and I think your dream can come true. Maybe even very soon.

AI gambling doesn't sound good, I think we can use AI as an assistant for our daily works and research but I really don't think that we can use it in gambling. 1 Topic I read is about using AI to predict a sports betting tournament which in my honest opinion would only give us general idea but that doesn't mean we can rely on it, though probably we can use AI to create us a script for automated betting.

     -   How did you say online RPG is like AI? he doesn't seem to be a maget to be honest, could you please elaborate a little so that others can understand as well.

AI in our time today is making a bit of noise in different categories to be honest, not only in gambling, in the crypto space and even in other things it is making noise. AI are making a name in this industry actually.

As I see it, AI gamblng could offer some unique advantages. For example, it could enable game developers to create completly new types of games that arent possible in the physical world. AI gambling, with the use of machine learning algorithms, could also offer personalized experiences for each player, based on their individual preferences and betting habits. For example, AI could analyze vast amounts of data on players past behavior and use that to create tailored gameplay experiences that are more engaging and enjoyable for each individual player. It could also offer more precise and accurate odds calculations in sports betting, which could potentially make gambling fairer and more transparent.

Anyway, i think there is still so much more to discover in terms of how AI can be utilized in the gambling industry, no matter what direction it takes in the future.

I'm also confused in his statement as well. I'm just guessing that he is connecting AI to the NPC that we have on RPG games. It's kind of messed up but it's far similar from each other since NPC on RPG games had programmed to respond a sequence of response.

With the rise of AI technology, Almost all of the technology today can be incorporated with AI. Online gambling can also be incorporated with AI. I won't be shocked if someone offered to sell a gambling AI in the market as we know that it can possibly create profits from casinos. AI use has been trying to be regulated today and I believe that casino's will implement their own rules against the use of AI.

Though I don't believe that ChatGPT can actually beat human players even if it's trained for that based on the hands or the results of the previously played games by experts, there will be the need for a custom version of it that will totally be based on that particular data and will be trained only to play poker, it isn't possible to do that with the existing version if you are talking about the free version.

I have not used the paid version and I'm not sure about its limitations but the free version has got some limitations and cannot be fed data amounting to too big. I also would love to see the outcomes of that if someone does that for an experiment.

Recently, when the content of YouTube was relevant to the AI concept, I even realized that an AI created an image that in the reality of human life it was not yet. But if you look at this image, it is scary to look at.

So if AI is inserted into the gambling industry here in the crypto space and I think in the eyes of others it is impossible but it may eventually be a surprise that we can do it.

Perhaps, it's because there is no real evidence of the success of this project so we think like that and it's difficult to run well. It is about how the project team can work together with the people who join the team so they can achieve their targets in the future. If the project manages to do better development in the future and many people are willing to follow the update, the project may attract more people who want to try it. So we should wait for the updates carried out by the teams from the AI project so that we see competition in this gambling business.

Yes, because real evidence of the success of the project that will be developed can be a factor that influences the amount of interest from gamblers to believe and acknowledge the project.
However, so far the AI development project has been around for some time and has been widely debated, but as we can see, so far there has been no evidence that the project has been successful.
To be honest, I myself still have doubts whether to believe it or not because I haven't been able to see firsthand that they got success. Maybe if in the future there is evidence of the truth and good enough success, not only me, but most gamblers will also believe and have more interest. .

Since the evidence for the development of the AI project doesn't look good or successful, we better keep waiting for the development because it looks like the developers still have to work even harder to perfect the AI project. And gamblers have to be more patient to see the updates the developers will release and hopefully, the results will be seen in the next few months or a year. And if many updates can make the project even better, surely there will be lots of gamblers who want to try it to see if it can really help their analysis or if they just stick with the methods they are used to.

The whole AI hype is getting too much because it has become unwarranted for us to continue in this discussion and this is because artificial intelligence usage in gambling is quite possible and in no time casinos may make a public ban on the AI usage on their platform, this has not to sound well with many of us here in the gaming industry as artificial intelligence sound. As if it will be an abuse of the game process.
And at that, we must kick against it game manipulation unless it their new development with its usage and collaboration with human efforts.

AI is currently making waves and we all are following the wave and trying to have a better experience. This thing we thing we are enjoying might further be a big challenge to us in time if we are not careful. People have started using AI to do many things which is good but I doubt it if some groups will not finally use it to do evil to others.

Any tool regardless of how well designed it could be can always be used for all kind of nefarious purposes, and AI is not going to be an exception to this, however the most important question is if the technology in question is a net positive to our civilization? Lets take as an example the pharmaceutical industry, should we close it because there are people out there using their products not for their intended purpose but to intoxicate themselves? And the answer is no, as we obtain many benefits out of it and tens of millions of lives are saved by those medicines.

All the tools that are good can be used for any side, be it for the dummies or the maos, that they use it for bad does not mean then that this AI thing is bad because they use it in a bad way, it is not like that, I am also sure that everyone will use the AI at some point to predict games or to play in a casino, that cannot be doubted, any player will do it whatever it is, because what they want to win is money, and anything can be done, but if there is a short and fast way they take it without hesitation.

Artificial intelligence used to make predictions could be fine but then what about total reliance or over dependant on the AI's ability to make accurate game analysis and how humans depend on them so much to make games predictions for them, this can lead to two things which are:
1 the possibility of losing the bet since AI can not be accurate in its analyses due to lack of human experience so for the player to be on the safer side using AI should be based only on information research results and so on.
2 if the payers win too much the casino could investigate and dedicate the involvement of AI which will lead to account closer for the players.

AI's taking over, big league! But depending on it for bets? It's like betting your fortune on a digital dream. Picture a driverless car, just cruising along. Easy, right? But what if AI goes nuts? Are we ready for that disaster? Tech's great, but human gut feelings and know-how? Tremendous. AI's got useful hints, but it shouldn't call all the shots. Get unpredictable, be a maverick! We're people, not robots.

AI for betting is not going well with some gamblers. Some have been complaining that they used AI to bet and all the games gone abortive and there was no single win. Because Robot can never think like a human, the matter what. From the way I look at the whole thing, the AI is good in article writing and in that too one has to be careful because it will lead one to join the plagiarism net on their projects in schools and in their informal education projects.
Though I have not exprienced it but from others experience I don't think it is a good idea to use AI for gambling. But lazy gamblers will use it to gamble for them.

We know that when we do make out some betting on sports or whatever that is correlation into events then there's always 2 possible outcome which whether you would win or lose that certain bet.
You would definitely putting up into your mind that you are indeed doing well or saying that AI does really works whenever you do have higher winning chances which it would really be a common approach or
idea to be molded up.

What if losing? You would definitely having the impression that its not something reliable and not really works. This is a common approach just like when using up some strategy that you have just picked up from nowhere. Its not really that shocking that people would really be testing out on whats the current trend and hype now. We are on that AI hype as of this moment and due to some huge talks about its application
then its not really shocking that there were people who do really considering up on making use it out on gambling field.

some gamblers will surely try their hands on asking AI regarding their bets. at least get the pulse of AI and what it has to say about the game. but if you are a gambler who wants a bit of assurance on your bet, you will also apply your analysis on such games. you can use the answers of the AI to your advantage but you will not fully rely on its suggestions. you can compare notes on what you have and it has to say. weigh the options then decide which you think will be your best shot.

The question is not to try their hands on the possibility of AI involvement in gaming but to know how ethical it is to use such a tool in a casino and what if there is winning won't it be seen by the casino as cheating because obviously Artifical intelligence reason way more wider than the human brain and capacity and at that, if its configuration is done accurately it could succeed in game manipulations and possible winning, but how will the casino take that on the long run.

Casinos have been silent on the topics of AI usage in gambling simply because they already have anti bots usage on the casinos and will likely detect AI as a bot and could lead to possible account blockages

People actually don't understand that betting on sports or events also involves one's mental consciousness and thinking abilities about the teams or the players that are a part of the match that they are about to bet on, and an AI model can never have that ability no matter how advanced it becomes, it will always lack that one thing.

If I was to do sports betting and was told that I can also use AI for that, I would simply ignore that considering I believe myself way more than a language model that might be good for research but isn't something I would use for betting using my money.

I don`t sure that it is so. AI can help you to collect information and analyze it. It helps to save the time. And of course, the result decision must make the gambler. And only the gambler must decide to believe AI`s prediction or not.
But the same time i have to notice one really important preference of the AI - it has no emotions, feelings and it doesn`t sympathize to someone. And it is possible that we`ll see more interesting analyze from the AI.

^ Definitely right, sometimes the decision of AI has some error and it should be we cannot rely on it.
But yes, it could be your tool sometimes but don't expect it that has accurate results. Because of the fact that AI can certainly be useful in collecting and analyzing large amounts of data in a more efficient and accurate way than humans could. Lack of emotions and bias in AI can also be a benefit, as it may provide more objective and reliable information than a human could.

I totally get what you're saying about AI being able to help you analyze data and save time when making decisions on gambling. It's definitely a useful tool to have in your arsenal. However, I do have some concerns about relying solely on AI predictions when it comes to gambling.

I mean, sure, AI doesn't have emotions or feelings, and that can be a good thing when it comes to making unbiased decisions. But at the same time, there's something to be said for going with your gut feeling and making a decision based on your own intuition. If you're relying on AI to make all your decisions, it kind of takes some of the thrill out of it, you know?

We should not even have to rely on AI completely for us to get things done as a gambler. We can use AI to make some equiries about past games or strategies that we need to follow or something that need AI intelligence to make us scale through. I am a good fan of sport bet and I know AI can help me to make some enquiries if I see the need for that. The way AI had been trending these day is just too alarming and I am very sure that soon all these noice will fade out. I don't see any reason for using AI for gambling.

Specially tried to bet only using AI predictions for 2 days. It was an interesting experience for me. The result looks better - i bet 15 times and the 11 times won, odds were between 1.15 and 2.1. My prediction for these matches got just 8 wins. The emotions were strange. The most interesting matches were when my and AI predictions were different. And i`d prefered to lose money but to win AI. :)

It is some sort of guidance or like advisor on you. But still this depends on someone but having like checking what are the odds of winning this team vs the other can add up to your analysis. Still there are factors that that AI was not trained so still having your own predictions are the best because let's day on that game the person is suffering some injuries so probably the prediction wouldn't be the same

We shouldn't discount the enigmas that AI introduces to the game world just because it isn't flawless. Artificial intelligence is superior to humans in sifting through mountains of data in search of hidden patterns.

There's no arguing that AI aids in decision making, but it can't replace human intuition and emotional intelligence, both of which are crucial in gambling.

Imagine it as a mysterious relic: a device that aids in the placement of calculated wagers. Don't you want to take advantage of that?

Agree, we ourselves have to make the right predictions and decisions because if we only rely on Al, we will never be able to develop at any time by having more experience and insight in predicting or doing research to bet.
So far, I have never seen a gambler claim to have won big because of Al's help, so it is highly recommended not to be too exaggerated in dealing with the use of Al in gambling.
Al is indeed an intelligence technology, but not everyone can do it if they only rely on Al.

You haven't experienced it but you have a point in what you mentioned. Some gamblers think that AI is the key to them always winning at gambling, of course that is not the case.

       For me, because the AI system does not help in terms of maturity of each gambler in their betting. There is no thinking that happens if we just rely on AI so it is not surprising that in the end most gamblers lose in crypto gambling.

In the future maybe. Right now I don't think AI can make an educated guess like this. Or maybe it will but in the end it is not going to make you rich because I am not sure if the current AI is that smart. I mean it will give you an answer if you force it but the answer is probably be a bullshit one and won't be any better than tossing a coin. If somehow AI becomes as advanced as you said, then it will be the end of the gambling industry.

Let's just assumed it was on thesame track like that of the car racing since you can make your personal modifications all by yourself, this will determine how you may be likely for a win or not base on the skills you've out in together, but if we take a look more closer with AI in this kind of gaming activities, it may not rely work out as expected because you have the potential to always work out your chances to outsmart the AI and using AI will not always guarantee you a winning attempt.

I think that even if an artificial intelligence of this kind existed which allowed players to make very precise predictions about who would win a particular match, the gambling industry will find a way around it, many decades ago when card counting was first introduced many gamblers thought that this was going to be the end of blackjack, however this did not happen as casinos adjusted the rules in order to counter card counters, and since then blackjack has become way more popular, so I expect a similar process to happen here.

It is not correct to use everything in every place, it can give opposite results. AI can be used to acquire knowledge, and other tasks. But the use of AI among gamblers will definitely not bring good aspects to the gambling industry. Gamblers don't just play to earn, people gamble for entertainment too, when everything becomes AI, gamblers will no longer get the real feel. And its impact will hit the gambling industry hard.

In fact, if we think about the matter deeply, then in my opinion, I would say that maybe in real horse racing, AI can help gambling by using advanced AI cameras to monitor the activity of horses.
Although it is far off, I don't want the time to come where gambling can be done by or with AI. In my opinion, it is better that gambling is free of AI because when gambling is controlled by AI, all the enjoyments of gambling will disappear, maybe then people will only play games to beat each other or to earn money.
Yes, I think that in the future era of the metaverse, there will definitely be a gambling part, as there are currently online casinos, so I think that it will definitely be possible in the future. And I am also hopeful that sitting at my home I can enjoy gambling with my foreign friends through metaverse. I think it's only a matter of time in the near future we get to know it too

Right, you got a good point.
Imagine that you want to bet on the world cup and your national team has managed to participate and has reached quarters of finals. You decide to bet in every match because you feel excited about that World Cup but instead going for what your gut says you ask an artificial intelligence on where to put your money.

Even though you feel very confident on your team and other teams, sooner or later the AI will tell you to bet against them?
That would definitely ruin my mood. The feelings and thrill associated with betting would certainly suffer, in my opinion.  ::)

I have never used AI in gambling, that sounds very unrealistic to me when you chose AI to predict the gambling outcome rather than to trust your own human knowledge and instinct. However, maybe AI can be productive in other ways but never can be reliable in gambling. Though AI has been taking big leaps this time that some gamblers have start trusting it, but surely all they got were most losses than wins.

Gambling with AI technology sounds like a dream come true for every gambler but eventually even the Ai does not guarantee a 100% winning and moreover if gambling with AI proofs to be very effective it might run so many casino reckless because the rate of winnings will be much and the customers might now actually have a chance to defeat the house. But all this is just a dream because even with AI inserted in the gambling industry the house will still man over a way to win you as the customer because its a business and the gamblers needs to lose more.

So here everything is elementary! 
If the players start using AI en masse for their bets, then the casino will also connect AI, which will counteract the AI ​​who plays against the casino.  It turns out that two AIs will start to fight, although I kind of thought that AI is something like a single inseparable one.  Apparently, all the same, it turns out that AI can be bifurcated, detuned, and so on according to its decisions.  And each decision will simply have its own probability of an upcoming event.  For example, events such as a bet on a game.  And here it turns out that the player himself, despite the advice of AI, chooses from these probabilities. 
So AI in gambling can seem to be neutralized, or rather, it becomes unnecessary.  Despite all his toughness. :)

  -  For me, what you said is simple mate, but it makes sense, I think the message you mentioned actually has a point and is right in a nutshell.

And I also agree that AI is only good for giving knowledge to anyone but in this gambling matter it doesn't seem to fit anymore in my opinion. And it is also true that not all gamblers have the same reason for gambling because some are addicted to gambling, others are just to save themselves and others are taking a chance that they might suddenly become rich by betting.

Whatever the profession, if you use AI correctly, it will definitely be useful, for example to build websites to solve problems or other things, but if it is used by gamblers, it will definitely be used to find loopholes to win at gambling, even though that is clearly wrong, of course casinos are also smarter than gamblers, the casino has thinking about this technology so they are also looking for solutions using AI as well so that their casinos are really safe.

I've tried using AI to predict football sports betting predictions and they only provide analysis but the predictions aren't entirely correct, if I'm not mistaken AI wasn't created to predict what will happen later and also isn't used to beat gambling.

that's very correct! i don't think casinos and bookies will just sit down and relax while there is a threat from AI. if they are not fast enough to catch possible impact of AI tech on their business, they can easily get bankrupt. so yeah, they are watching also on this matter.
now that AI seems to be developing fast. they are on the lookout also as to how it will influence their day to day operations. for now, their predictions may still be far from human predictions or from actual results, but the more data they are working on, they may have better predictions with the outcome.

We haven't seen the development of AI for the gambling industry and even if there is, we might not be interested or haven't used it regularly so we don't know whether AI can be used properly or still needs further improvement. But in the future, I think with technological developments in all fields, it will provide the answers we need. Who knows, AI can provide predictions that are close to the truth so that we will get additional information through AI. For now, we should just wait to see how AI for the gambling industry develops and if we can use it to get information, we need to see how accurate it is.

AI will come to the gambling industry but maybe not as much as we think. Because I think no matter how much technology improves, it would be best to refrain from using AI altogether. Because this will not reduce people's attraction to gambling. Just because technology is improving every day doesn't mean it has to be applied to everything, some things have to be left free that were already good and interesting.

Have got the impression some people believe that Artificial intelligence is a magical tool which would suddenly make them good at sport betting, instead what actually it is: a supplementary tool, as you mention.

There will be thousand of people who will not even know that and will bet significant amounts of money following in a blind manner the recommendations of the machine, my personal prediction is that most of them will lose money and then will abandon that silly idea. In the end, Technology is not magic.  :P

Have you checked YouTube? There are many channels already that suggest ways to profit off AI, it would not surprise me if there was someone already shilling it as a way to improve chances on betting.

Gambling with AI technology sounds like a dream come true for every gambler but eventually even the Ai does not guarantee a 100% winning and moreover if gambling with AI proofs to be very effective it might run so many casino reckless because the rate of winnings will be much and the customers might now actually have a chance to defeat the house. But all this is just a dream because even with AI inserted in the gambling industry the house will still man over a way to win you as the customer because its a business and the gamblers needs to lose more.[/quote]

Well, all this is just an expectation until it becomes reality. IMO, AI will even create more gambling addicts, and from what I think about this AI, they collect information from the internet to produce any results they needed for their users. Although you have said what you think about the AI being able to make more wins for the gambler, but i am thinking on the opposite side because the AI cannot override the casino system to make winning very possible for gamblers; it will just be what humans usually do to stake their games. The only difference that the AI might make is to know how to wager with a small amount, taking a low risk of just wagering little by little depending on how much the gambler is using to bet. Just like how some people will wager like $1k at once, the AI can decide not to do it at once. Also, when there are a series of losses at a stretch, it might decide to stop, whereas some gamblers will keep gambling at a sport even if they keep losing.

The difference is, AIs can choose which information it wants to retain, choose to learn from, and omit what seems unnecessary for it to be useful. Human events and performances will soon be predicted very easily by AIs, and there wouldn't really be a fix or a patch to that unfortunately. Bookies will never know if an AI is being used to bet on the events they're putting out, so that's also a hard catch. We just have to rely on these events to be as arbitrary, random, and unpredictable as possible, that patterns emerging from previous matches/games wouldn't really matter when it's game time.

The thing with artificial intelligence is that it has a lot of inaccuracy since it generates its data from various means so the possibility of AI to give adequate games analysis and profiling winning solutions is not guaranteed and even at that the casino will spot the weak point of AI and will try as much as possible to stay ahead of them in both games analyze and winning probabilities which have been something that can not be guarantee since the outcome of the game is primary designs to favour the house ended over the players, so the outcome of most gambling games in pre-determined and the system configured to give a higher chance to the interest of the casino rather than the players.

I don't know what will happen in the future. however, I will say again. that it would be very unlikely if we could use Al as a reference to make predictions. maybe if for gambling that uses cards like blackjack for example, Al can be involved to make predictions. but the question is, how to do it, whether to engage the bot that includes the AI ​​script. or, what the mechanism looks like. for sure, it makes me wonder. then what about sports betting predictions, can Al be involved as a reference to make predictions.

Well, let's give an example with football. as far as my experience, football cannot be predicted with certainty, everything is just assumption, guess and speculation. Regarding each result, it is determined by the two competing teams. one mistake, can be fatal and become an advantage for his opponent. and it seems, Al will not be able to reason in this detail. The problem is, in football we don't only talk based on data and statistics, but as a whole. that is why, I doubt that AI is able to make predictions accurately.

This is a big challenge for every casinos to catch those gamblers who are using AI, they might not have a good predictions right now but if the gamblers is able to input good data, I'm sure that AI will be good and will be a big threat to casinos. Sports betting are more about predictions, AI might have a better idea with regards to this one. As a gambler, there's also a big risk to rely with AI as it is not that reliable yet there's still a big question about AI.

Al technology is one of the most accurate and quick technologies available, and it serves a crucial purpose for users, specifically gamblers. They will be the first to employ the Al technology, and they will not hold back in their pursuit of further information. Gambling will never be completely accurate, but over time, it will match the demanding tasks of a large number of gamblers who are engaged in making their forecast work. Al is already coded, but we shouldn't expect more winning than losing; both sets will be balanced, even if the loss is substantially more than the winning.

I think that AI coming to the gambling industry can do a lot, considering that we also don't know what the development of AI will be like in the future. If AI is developed in other businesses and receives attention from many businesses, AI will be developed for the gambling business. Especially with the many creative ideas that can emerge after the development of AI in other businesses has progressed rapidly. The application of AI for each business depends on the business owner. If AI can be more profitable for business owners, they will try to apply it while asking for customer suggestions and criticism.

For a gambling business, maybe Al is currently only used to assist them in a customer service or customer service chat where later Al will answer all complaints or questions from customers.
But it seems that we really don't know how Al will develop in the future but expecting more and relying too much on Al is not a good thing.
If it is said that it is profitable for casino business people, it seems that it is indeed profitable because it can be more helpful and saves work that must be done by the service team, it's just that the team still has to monitor and sort out what kind of problems must be solved because Al certainly can't solve all problems which exists.

I understand that the free version of chatgpt is the one that everyone has the option to enter except for the sop prohibited countries, in my case my country is prohibited and there is no way I could enter because they need numbers from foreign countries for a simple registration, And even so, if you have it, it does not allow users from my country to enter, I do not know if the apga version allows them to enter, however I have thought about the following, if CHATGPT-4 allows you to make videos and a series of things is very Simple, the prediction functions are not available to common users, but I'm sure they have worked on them, but they don't release them to the world.

You are right. Every problem has a solution, it is only a matter of time until the solution is found once the problem occurs. So if AI becomes capable enough of predicting results accurately, there will be a solution for the casinos to counter that since it can be a big threat to their business, and owners of the casinos won't let that happen at all.

They might also make use of Artificial Intelligence to tackle the problem caused by AI models created specifically for the purpose of predicting the outcome of future events, and I'm sure they will do it successfully.

Critique!? No. Not like real critique, mate, but my expression is basically what I just think, more like my opinion; if you say critique, makes me feel as if I am totally against it. I am a gambler, so if I see something that can even give me more wins, then I should be happy 😁. You know, as some people always say, AI is going to make life easy, and everything that has an advantage always has a side of disadvantage as well. So I'm just wondering what AI in gambling or casinos will look like. But just as you have said that it might also give a better streak based on what you think (although not a floorless win as you also mentioned). well, I feel a bit convinced based on what you have said, and like I also told DaNNy01, the AI is still in expectation, but until it becomes reality, we can actually know what and how it will work. Still on the addiction aspect, I know it can be a bit manipulative, but some people still seem to have self-control over the way they gamble, while others have totally lost their minds. I made mention some months ago of a friend in school who has a critical case of gambling addiction.


Really making me think so much of this AI  >:( ::)

I've seen some AI on YouTube from some youtubers who are curious but they can't really determine what they want, the AI they've posted tell them that they can't make predictions, but I think they're asking the wrong questions, because the AI makes many Get an idea that things can go on a perfect path and win or achieve what you want, but AIs do not have the ability to bet and win, but that is for now, what an AI can do is a lot Beyond what is a simple casino game, that for an AI should be nothing.

I guess it would be possible to ask an AI to decipher the code of a slot machine and to be honest, I have met some Chinese guys who kind of get some partial success at doing it manually, so I do not see why an AI correctly programmed could not, with a sufficient number of parameters and information, achieve also a degree of success at breaking the codes.

It sounds like a regular car racing game where we can improve our cars. Therefore, I don't understand the point of giving people the opportunity to upgrade their horses, and then place bets. Then there should be restrictions, by type: you cann't set all settings to the maximum at once; if you improve one skill, then the rest become worse. And it is important that all the changes made are publicly available and limited right during the races

And that's why I said we should keep using the methods we are used to while still waiting for the updates made by each AI developer. If there is something good and interesting to try, we can try it right away, especially if the development provided by the developer is better than before.

That can help the casino track down members who have problems so they can read up on other information and if that's not enough, they can pass it on to the support services and agents who will help right away.

I am well aware of all the hype around AI lately, but I don't personally find the AI + gambling combination attractive. Of course, the general public may like it, but this is certainly not for me.

About gambling and metaverse, as a semi-hardcore user of Second Life in the past I can tell you that it would be indeed a really good idea. Some plinko machines lying here and there were very successful back then in that metaverse, and the concept of a tavern where you can see football matches, for example, with people that aren't living close to you, and also bet, seems great to me.

I think there is a place for gambling in the metaverse, but the main sports activities to bet on will be online players, who are supposed to play online multiplayer games... As for fully computer-driven games, I don't think it's gonna be interesting, just like watching bots only competition in an online game...

It does look attractive but in a closer look, AI + gambling = the same result as the normal gambling.  Since gambling has random result, I do not think AI can be taken advantage to produce more chance of winnings.


Metaverse is a perfect place for virtual gambling.  With Metaverse, players can have almost the same feel of gambling in a land-based casino especially if the game is created via first-person perspective where you can roam around the Metaverse, being able to interact with things around.  I know it requires hard effort but once the metaverse is perfectly implemented, I think it will bring boost to gambling industry and may create a new era of gambling.

I definitely agree with your statement.

The approach is somehow questionable given on how the gambling platform views AI betting either as legal or illegal. Regardless, however, betting on AI can provide numerous advantage, such as collecting data from previous races, etc. If permitted by the gambling platform, the gambling, however, should not completely rely on the findings of the AI alone. He/she must decide, given all the information the person has, on which horse to bet on.

Given this approach, betting using AI can be advantageous and convenient but one should not completely rely on it. If you mix it with your intuition and data, then the chances of a person winning is higher compared to your average gambler.

Then those multiplayer games are supposed to take place on the metaverse, then. We already have very interesting and competitive games and leagues where people partake and bet much money,  like Counter Strike or League of Legends.

The problem is that in the Metaverse and with the current technology it has not been possible for people to have access to an addictive, competitive and fun game like those, which would require a Virtual Reality set.

Facebook/Meta is very far form reaching anything close to creating a new e-sport and the only successful VR games seems to be single player experiences, like Half Life: Alyx.

Just another reason I think the Metaverse still has a long path to go before harboring an active community of bettors.

I haven't bet on AI horses or I just can't remember it at all, maybe zed.run was like that? If yes, then I bet on it already. I think I have the same thread related to metaverse and gambling and yes they are entirely possible to coexist. This is revolutionary gambling but I think it will take years before we realized it fully and be adopted.

Can you really not access ChatGPT? I didn't know that they have some countries restricted and they cannot use their services, I thought it's available worldwide and anyone from any country can use it. If you can't access the free version, I bet you can't access the paid version as well if it's a restriction for your country of residence.

About betting or prediction abilities, I don't think that they've done anything in specific about that, the difference between both versions is that the paid version has access to the most up to date data and also provides more accurate and sophisticated answers to prompts.

AI is famous today and maybe they just connect it since they think that maybe there will be a huge chance to win if they apply the AI generated result when betting in a casino.

But for sure all will be in random places so to crazy thoughts for believing on such things since it doesn't have any proof that it really work.

Until now, nobody can show us how it works successfully in gambling. Because I've heard from ChatGPT users that they are appreciating it for helping their office and research jobs but to mention using it in gambling, it was just a sort of experiment. Well, I gonna expect some development and technology enhancement. But for now, still don't have any confidence in this AI and besides, it was not effective when you are in sports betting and much more in pure luck-based games.

AI today is talked about a lot compared to before which was not much to be honest, then almost everywhere you can use it now little by little, even in trading and so on.

      But you are right in saying that there is no problem that cannot be solved, but I still do not believe that AI can predict things that will happen or that AI can beat a gambling platform because it is impossible to happen in reality.

I have never seen anything like AI gambling. I don't know why people are always carrying trending news to make things look more interesting and bring more customers to there platforms. I have seen making AI crypto projects and I wonder why many people are always after things that are trending. We need to know what we are doing so we are not going to follow trend and end up losing our money just because we want to play AI bets.

It's been such a hype and a sure the company behind has been benefiting a lot from this unsolicited promotions in the form of downloads, running ads and traffic on there use.

To those that have grown accustomed to its use, does it really help in making money? Because, I don't see it being of much or any use when it comes to gambling.
These AIs work on the concept of historical data in its calculations but, are we sure the outcomes of a rolling game has any permutation that considers historical data..? I can't say but, the house would be well aware not to let systems that would harm them persist.

What an experience it would be. You know, showing up in an avatar where your privacy in real life is maintained but, your very much present in an event. Imagine the in stadium feeling when it comes to football, cool.

So do you really believe that this is just a trending things in Gambling? do you really Understand what AI means ? because you seems to be confused about how this works and what is the benefits of this to the gamblers as the gambling sites are mostly runs through AI and that is why we can hardly beat them.
maybe you need more understanding and this is not just about other projects but the reality of life now.
this technology is gaining more not only popularity but usage over millions of people now from everything in the world.
offering various things that will help people ease their activities and making their life comfort from both ends.
Maybe not that instant mate but we have seen the advantage , it may not completely today but sooner , maybe we will take lots of advancement when this is totally in place for gambling?

The odds will always be on the house even if you can adjust the probability of your house to win. It can't be advantageous to player when the horses are actually not real. They're the ones creating these horses too. So I don't see anyone get used to it unless the player is happy losing his money.

While players can try using AIs, they will also be used by the casinos. Its not gonna be worth playing in this computer base horse race.

ChatGPT will never be useful when it comes to gambling regardless of how advanced such an AI became as it is not its field of specialization, so anyone interested on using an AI this way will have to create it on their own, a difficult process of course as you will need to know the algorithms used to create that AI, plus you will need the historical data which could help the AI to train itself and develop a working model, and it is unlikely a single person has the data, time and expertise to do something like this on their own.

Has anyone here made bets with AI? How has that experience been? Because I don't really see that the robots that are on the web have them, but I don't rule out that some developers are doing it since the AI learns in record time, it is very easy for the AI to find for itself how to play correctly, see the style of play of some famous players and I can take it as learning and since the AI gets statistics in seconds, handles mathematical modeling in record time, all of this helps me to be more efficient in a game, of course I'm speculating, but I think the things currently go that pace.

This is the major problem we are facing on social media and subforums I don't think AI has made any significant development and improvement to be able to affect any game outcome, so for that, I don't see any possibility of having an AI bot to gamble with effectively without incurring loses for the gamblers since AI will not be consistent in games analysis.

So for that, I believe that AI is truly over-hyped and we must take out time to research more on AI capabilities instead of missing up on things and creating hype for them.

I tried about a week ago. It was interesting experience. I made the bets like the AI said but marked for myself my own predictions. It was not big quantity of bets for serious test, but the AI predictions were better than my. Winrate was higher about 30-35%(if i remember correct) and profit was higher about 20-25%(if we calculate odds). But i`d prefer to bet myself - it much more exciting.

  -    At this point I agree with you on that. When it comes to crypto gambling or even other online gambling, I am not convinced that AI can help with that, until now I think and wonder how it can help gambling when winning here depends on luck and fraud.

Maybe in other things AI can help in providing data, options, and meaning if whatever we want to know maybe just like that but not really in gambling to be honest.

It was back then, so you can imagine. In fact, concerts were successful and, although there were stadiums built in SL and I witnessed a few matches, those matches were between users, and for the shake of fun: although the ball didn't move as one could've expected, goals were scored :D

With the latest innovations in VR, sensors, and a broader target public nowadays (people is way more digital now than 15 years ago), I guess that we could soon see something like what you say, and not only for esports as one could imagine, but for traditional football too.

can you give us more details? Like, how did you do it? via ChatGPT or is there other platform that you are using like the Auto GPT? I am planning to see what the probability is on this kind of interesting topic, but again, this is only based on data coming from the internet, and let's say the morale of the players is not included, like injuries and also some altercations between the team.

In Decentraland you can already meet other people at the casino. ( Vegas City )

I was at Ataris release party in Decentraland back in 2020 ( i think )
There was a famous DJ there, and we tried some slots and had a good time in the Decentraland Metaverse.

So yeah, for sure we will see more gambling/sportbetting in metaverses in the future.

I think it's already possible, but the concept didn't really take off since most people aren't really interested in AI gambling and prefer traditional gambling(Offline and Online) which makes sense if you think about it.

Personally, I am interested in AI gambling primarily for the fun aspect using AR glasses instead of VR headsets.

I only predict that AI will help us find the data we need so that it will add information to us. We can also consider or analyze the data obtained by AI so that we can choose a team with a greater chance of winning. And as long as there is no further development from the developer, we will not be able to use AI in detail, let alone expect information from AI to help provide more information. So we can only wait for an update from the developers to see how the AI performs next, and if the developers can come up with newer technology, it will help people a lot in using AI.

Most people aren't that tech savvy yet or should we say most gamblers tend to follow the traditional way but for sure in the future many will flock to the more advanced technology while gambling. The thing with AR is that you can still enjoy of what's likely a more traditional one compare to VR and I think that's a great choice.

I feel like I can be cheated when I'm using VR lol cause you won't see your nearby surroundings unlike with AR, there could be some chance allowing your spatial awareness.

AI is already been there ever since before. They can be found it the offline or on the online world. The auto response that we get when contact support , the auto betting, and many more. They are just a few examples of AI.

You already saw it before mate and even up to now but you are not only aware because you have a different expectation of what AI looks like. Carrying trends is one of the ways to attract a customer, so expect that each business including gambling will follow it. As long as they are legit, they will offer games which are fair, that players has the chance to win too sometimes. It's not wrong to follow them but we shouldn't rush of course. Observation must still be in place.

Ask any AI like chatGPT to predict any future event and you will see how stupid they are, like parrots.
Not long ago I asked a few question about future Bitcoin price, about weather and other things, and I never received a single clear answer on my questions.
All AI can do is repeat stuff (like a broken record) what someone else wrote and use different algorithms for providing answers, so they don't have any chance of gambling with success.

Sorry, but i can`t tell about details, it isn`t my secret, the same time i can`t recommend such way due to some moments that i mark now.
What i can say: my friend is a programmer, their company is testing AI for different purposes(if i understand right - it is their own AI). They got a big volume of football matches results until May 23. The result is in my tests. I don`t sure that they can get such information one more time, i don`t sure that they have some information about injuries, motivation, etc. I`ve got about 80 predicts but i could find only 15 with normal odds.

People are afraid to try new things so its expected that they will stick on traditional way for now. But if they see that a technology has been rise and this is been tested by many people for sure they will grab the chances to try this up. But if casino will adopt AI and VR thing for sure this will grab by people since many want to try new things and virtual reality world might catch interest to the people but we cannot expect AI will help gambler to win since casino will also do counteraction for their business not to get bankrupt.

What I think of all this is that casinos have to have security based on AI algorithms, because there will be many players who are going to try to play with AI, and it is very difficult because as time goes on the AI will improve and improve, and the probability algorithms will improve further,  which will get much closer to a player winning more easily, that is where the security of a casino must act because it can break it, I have thought about that, what a thing It doesn't work for me, is it how the players will do if they don't use the AI , will the casino's AI take that measure as a threat? or he will let it pass normal.

This is a great point. I didn't really think of this. I prefer AR glasses over VR headsets primarily because of how lightweight and comfortable they are. They won't make us look weird in public too.

Imagine playing AR gambling games with your friends while being completely aware of the surroundings. This could be the future of gambling.

Until May 23? that's impossible or it is April 23? which is also outdated. I am also a self learned programmer too which now I've got an idea how you deal it . For sure it was agent GPT your friend are using but the problem is how do I get the data.  Also regarding the data it is really best to get a realtime data if you are using ChatGPT AI because they dont have access on internet they are constantly feed with information so such predictions is difficult if there are problems occurred on that day

Even with real-time data I hardly doubt that chatgpt providing accurate answers would change the bet since you'd have pushed the bet before the match started in the first place. Accidents like injuries and weather conditions aren't exactly something that they'd have access information to beforehand anyway.

I'd say that's because of how VR is made as of late? In general, I think VR would be a lot better in the future, machines would probably come as simple as how mobile devices are compared to their prior versions. Though I'd say they're both use-able in the future for gambling, especially in the case where AR would probably be used by the majority when outside in the far future. VR is kind of like your home PC by then imo. Now though, I don't think there's much difference in AR and reality, as for VR, well, it just simply sucks, for now at least.

Maybe ChatGPT Al can provide information or predictions when we give some accurate points but there is no guarantee that what Al produces can give maximum results because the information or predictions we get are only based on a history or story of what we need.
Meanwhile, a prediction cannot be made easily using AI.
I read some of the previous feedback and it seems that indeed relying on Al to make predictions is just stupid.
Maybe if to just get some certain information we can just rely on Al for some things more like predicting for bets or other things that aim to win gambling it's impossible in my opinion.

AI itself will tell you that it cannot predict a future. It can only give information, historical data, or study, which will help you to come up with your own conviction. The operator or the gambler still is in control of their own bets. If you put all your money on Ai's analysis, then your just simply putting your money to waste. A player must be responsible for their own bets, and they will do that if they use the data given b the AI and do not bet solely bet by what the AI just said.

You cannot truly predict a future but you can make a statistical guess. With proper risk management, you will last in the gambling game.

The last date they got were the first days of May, i didn`t saw it myself. It is possible to get information from the bookies i think or some special sites with statistics. I don`t know really where they got it and is it possible to get it again or not. I said the result i`ve got, it looks pretty enough as for me. It would be nice to get information online, but i don`t sure that it is possible for the big volume of matches. Anyway it is interesting experience for me.

So probably they just get that data from the bookies, compile it, and feed it to AI. It is really heavy work, but it is nice to try. For sure, those gamblers like you are happy to try it because it is another experience, like having an assistant tell you the predictions and what the probability is. Well, for sure, there are public repos on this that we can try, as this is really a huge project.

If using the information provided by Al to be able to make a prediction makes sense but if risking a certain amount of money just for the prediction made by Al then I believe he is a fool who might be willing to lose money just because of an unclear prediction.
I agree with you and as great as Al is not able to predict future results.
It is better to increase our own experience and insight so that we can make various predictions in many ways so that our abilities can go beyond what Al can provide.
To be honest, I have never believed in artificial intelligence like Al because I have always believed in my abilities even though sometimes there are still many mistakes, but at least I can have more knowledge and experience in every mistake that occurs.

Artificial intelligence is incredibly powerful, no doubt about it. Like asking a squawking parrot for advice on which stocks to buy. While AI may compile data and present findings, it is ultimately up to humans to do the grunt work and draw the conclusions

Just picture yourself handing out your hard-earned cash on a whim, at AI's recommendation. It's the equivalent of throwing money into the infinite depths of space. You can't just sit back and take what AI gives you; you need to be mentally agile

Without a doubt, AI is quite intelligent; nonetheless, it is not a magical sage. To believe it can predict the future is to believe a fortune cookie from the dollar shop can answer all of life's big questions. Instead, let's go out and gain our own perspective by gaining knowledge, experience, and wisdom. In this approach, humans can make more accurate forecasts than artificial intelligence

   -  AI predictions are not always accurate when used in gambling. Because the information it provides is based only on what is stated
in its data program or algortihms and nothing else.

He can use it as a useful tool of a gambler, but remember that it is not a guarantee that a player will definitely win in the casino. That's why it is always said that a gambler will always be responsible and always ready for the risk that he can face here.

I think that it is something about it. The bookies have this information and it is possible to get it i think. Until the AI can`t give stable predictions it would be easy enough to get such information. But if the gamblers begin to win regularly and it would be easy to get access to such predictions - the bookies will stop to share such information and we`ll need to get someone or some service to get it.

If it were true that every gambler's prediction would be correct, then all gamblers would be rich, so that's not what really happens. Because most players want to win in a casino, they sometimes think that AI is the key to what they want.

       But as you said that AI does not have the ability to predict the things that happen in gambling because AI is only stuck in the data program that is inputted to it, so what is really written in AI is the only thing that will be given. nothing too much and nothing too little.

This looks like another type of gambling to me because this is the first time I am hearing about this. AI or no AI gamblers are still going to enjoy themselves so we need to make sure that we have fund while we are gambling so that we are not going gamble in a way that would make us lose because we want to start another new kind of bets.

I want you to know that artificial intelligence kind of gambling is there gambling that is deal with programming so I don't believe on it accuracy because sometimes it fails but many people does not understand it that way and then when you check in the forum you see that from hundred percentage out of it it may be 20% why is using artificial intelligence for gambling

I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

I have always thought about the way they extract data to put it in speculative markets and with the use of AI tools, since everything related to AI is so fashionable now for anything, you have to see that with gambling and especially with sports betting predictions must be made, but at the level of an AI programmer I don't know how efficient it is that they can run a good test to see how accurate it is, I doubt that it can be quite accurate because this is hardly It is dndao and those who have a lot of money are the ones who will have access to this kind of information.

Well, the existing AI models aren't created for this purpose and that is the reason why it would be foolish if someone places any bets using real money only based on a prediction made by an AI model. Even the information extracted from these models should be first verified and then believed since such models can always make mistakes.

If an AI model can make mistakes and sometimes provide inaccurate information, it is obvious that it cannot perfectly predict the future, even if it tries, one should only take that as a lead but do their own research first before finalizing their decision.

I think that gambling addictions are very different things, if an AI does the work of a player, the player will not get addicted because he will not lose, he will only be aware of when he wins and when he does not win, how much money he has and how much money he is willing to give bet and win, this is something that eliminates any possibility of addiction, addiction begins when the player loses and loses, the idea goes like salt in water, while the AI achieves what it has never achieved, these are the positive things that You can see if the development of the AI is successful.

That's because AI hasn't been able to develop and still needs improvement in its programming code. After all, we still prefer to bet on what we like and not rely on anything unless it is about getting information to help us in our analysis. So if you want to see the performance of AI that can be used for gambling, it looks like you still have to wait for a few more years or until there is a notification from each developer about the AI project they are working on. And hope that the next notification will provide good news about the development of AI.

We all know how addictive gambling is when chasing losses, and such patterns are expected to be mitigated and never encouraged. Many AI systems are incorporated into today's gambling sites as ways for the system to detect any patterns or addictive gambling. Players at risk of falling into risky gambling patterns usually lack access to data and steal information. AI comes and gives a new push to online gambling sites to make gambling more enjoyable AI has helped robots perform procedures that the best could not master.

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

The websites that sell that data for sports events which you are saying can be used for an AI model as its feed data, do those websites provide you with an algorithm that will automatically keep updating the data? If not, then it's useless since the data will be outdated too soon and the AI model will not be able to provide accurate results again.

As far as I know from what I've read, GPT-4 has access to the internet and provides responses using the up-to-date data available on the internet but I can't say if that is actually the case or if it can be used for predictions since I didn't use it myself.

Thou with the available data given for use by the A.I model, I still doubt it's credibility to provide a 100% sport prediction, whether either virtual or live streaming event, because what A.I does is work on already existing data source, which in most causes could be outdated depending on the host provider.
But in regards to the A.I horse race which O.P made mentioned, predicting such will still be hard even thou it's A.I generated, because I'm sure that must have been programme in no direct sequence of code, making it impossible to predict it's next movement, just as we have in our current Soccer virtual games hosted by sportbookers.

You are right though, though there are some sports that the Ai could maybe easily predict correctly, but I personally do not think soccer is one of such sports games, even the real horse race can't be easily predicted correctly by Ai, reason being that this are very dynamic games, alot of factors can come into play in the field of play which can play a huge role in the outcome of the game, such factors are mostly what the Ai can't predict and this is where the failure would come from...
So really, Ai can't be completely depended on for correct predictions to various type of matches.

Using AI is not a bad idea, but we must know that it is not in every aspect of gambling that this technology should be applicable for us, there are scenarios that we will need the human thinking a d reasonings to effect a decision, everything is not to be keft in the hands of this technology without us taking proper and necessary actions before we may not be able ro anymore, though i believe in the many advantages the AI technology brought in so far, thing which should have taken time could be achieved in more lesser time.

You've made a very astute point in noting that AI frequently utilises preexisting data. Because of this, it may be unable to accurately anticipate certain occurrences, especially those with a high degree of uncertainty, such as sporting events. But here's a curveball to throw at you: AI can process and learn from massive volumes of data in a fraction of the time it would take a human.

The AI in a virtual soccer game or horse race doesn't necessarily know what it will do next; instead, it simulates several outcomes based on the algorithm it was given. In principle, these simulations should be utterly unpredictable and not adhere to any kind of pattern.

But here's the catch, and a fascinating matter for debate: how 'random' can an AI actually be, given that it functions based on pre-defined algorithms?

These are the genius that technology and scope have, many focus on looking how AI can get a casino, but it does not focus that AI can and rise to other things that bring more advance, such as medicine, in surgical interversines , but that is already something different, the casinos are those who show things as they are, the owners of casinos are not Dumb, they go to Abuse the best of all the Assurances in terms of AI, to avoid hackeos and possible bad times for the Casinos and Casino players who have their money saved there,this is fundamental.

that would be great when we could all do sports betting like horse racing but in the metaverse.  but what concerns me is the network problem that each region has is different, how can development make it look fair when users from third-world countries fight developed countries that have a good level of internet speed?

for that, imo requires a long enough study to be able to make the concept of gambling in the metaverse fair and orderly, so that the comfort of each user in various countries runs in balance. 

I believe, Al can help those of us who need it. in particular, for those who need fast and accurate information. Al's current existence, cannot be separated from the pros and cons. So far, Al has often been the subject of discussion and debate in the community. but what is certain, this artificial intelligence technology has always been the subject of hot discussion, especially those that relate it to gambling and predictions.

We agree with what you guys said, that Al could be involved in the gambling. some members may have tried to experiment with making predictions, some others use it to find all the information needed. for sure, everything is done to make it easier for us even though in this case it is gambling. but what is certain, whatever it is, this intelligence technology is not that effective for us to be involved in gambling. let alone to predict, especially sports or football fights. because in sports/football, it's not just talking about funds and statistics. that is why, no predictions are completely accurate. either from Al's side, or predictions based on the results of our own analysis. every result, will be determined when the fight / match is held.

With the way this AI technology hype is going, is like these artificial intelligence can actually solve all human problems which is probably a Big No and come to think of it, these AI were actually human creation with human intellect put in them so I see them as way to disguise your problems in having an easy way out and it would definitely wouldn't be so effective when it comes to the gambling industry because if the gambling companies find out the advantage of AI usage to their system I think they would probably just tighten their system so as to let the house always come out victorious  in terms of the win/lose percentage rate because they are actually running a business.

You guys in general are correct in noting that if every gambler's prediction were correct, they would all be rich. Gambling is inherently uncertain, and while statistical analysis and AI can provide insights and predictions based on historical data, they cannot guarantee accurate predictions every time. The only exception is those games in which calculating plays an important role.

Yes, as much as AI is really scary, but it's not for gambling though as it is based on prediction and there are factors that the AI can't get into it's system to decide who are going to win in a certain match.

So it's good to see AI right now, but it has it's limitation as I have said. And it will take away what we enjoy in let's say sports betting. Because we put our bets on the club or teams that we support and then we watch the game itself. So if our betting is base on AI then it will take away the most important aspect of sports and that is us, the fans.

AI horses, you mean this?

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Kiddings aside, I feel like if you're going to bet on AI horses instead of real ones, might as well not wait and waste your time and just bet/play RNG race games like the one I posted above. It's way easier that way and you won't have to worry bout the ethics and all that, cause apparently it still a pretty sensitive topic as of the moment. Plus if it's AI, there's probably ways to hack and make it so that a certain player gains an unfair advantage over you or others, which is not a good thing genrally. So yeah, save yourself the trouble and either bet on real horses or just stick with RNG-type ones.

I don't think internet connections have anything to do with that since players won't be running the horses but they will probably just be raising them and making them level up or something and make sure they are fit and good enough for the races and then others will bet on the horses that will be participating in those races.

The bettors will have to choose from the horses participating in particular races based on their own experience and the past performances of the horses since bettors would know if they are experienced in the game which provides them an advantage.

AI might not be compatible very much in gambling right now because of emotions and other related feelings.
But it is a technology that has come to dominate, in as much as you can think it with AI, you can also achieve it. If such implementation is allowed now, there will be many flaws in the horse race because the AI will not be able to capture everything.
But I bet you in the nearest future, everything is going to be AI ways. So we should always think how to go Ai way even in our betting processes.

When you bet on a real soccer or basketball game, I doubt that AI will have an edge over human beings. The one thing that AI can do is to calculate faster and more precise than human beings, but there is only so much to be calculated during a game. Assuming that someone watches the game and sees that a particular player is bound to see a red card when another foul happens, will AI incorporate that the same way a human being would do?

There are too many variables during a game that can't be calculated, but human beings develop a certain feeling for game situations with increasing experience.

Regarding the teams we put our bets on, I don't know. If a team that I like is inferior, why would I have to bet on that team? I can still bet on the opponent if it makes sense in that situation even if I don't like the other team. AI is focused on numbers, but I doubt that it will soon be able to incorporate specific game dynamics that a normal human being can observe.

Everybody can choose when to use AI. Today everybody can get access to chatgpt or some other AI. The problem is to get data that the AI has to analyze. But if you have this information, you can analyze it by yourself. It will take more time but during analyze you can find some additional information that AI willn`t use due to filters, it can become an advantage.

Anyone seen the prediction from ESP about the Heat vs. Celtics? 3% is only the chance of the Heat winning over the Celtics, but what happens now? It's 2-0 in favor of the Heat. If we look closely and compare it to our AI, the ESPN data is really based on what the players can do, like how much they are capable of, and they really read that the Celtics are more powerful than the Heat as most of the players there are undrafted, which means it affects a lot of the data. So let's say we used AI to make predictions about this, so we come up with those kinds of numbers and they turn out to be still not reliable, but again, it doesn't mean using AI would really make you win as there are really instances like this that are difficult to predict.

An AI model can be pretty good if used for research and analysis, but when it comes to gambling, it won't be able to help anyone with that since it hasn't been made that way. These existing AI models are not that strong that they can beat humans in their own game where skills play a great role and it isn't just about copying, manipulating, and pasting data.

What the current versions of AI models do best is take some data, analyze it, manipulate it, and represent it the way the user wants it, and it works pretty perfectly for that purpose so it should be used for that purpose.

You`re right about AI that it is about analyze. But the same time the AI can analyze human play and to predict what the man can do in such situation. It can be the same with the chess computers - they analyze the situation on the table to compare it with all the games were played to choose the best from them. The only thing the AI can`t predict well is casino games with the random.

AI gambling sucks to some gamblers while sone admit it as an advanced way of gambling in this modern technology, but it is very important for us to know that AI is not applicable innall aspect of gambling especially when we are talking about live games in gambling, the casinos can make use of the AI because they are being programmed in such a way it work with the system, but could they be as effective and accurate in our bets ehile we gambles all the time that such guarantees our winning whenever AI is being involved while gambling, this need a more serious discussion with an understanding in clarity.

Agree, I also have the same feeling where there is a sense of annoyance or annoyance but on the other hand the use of Al in gambling is a sophisticated technology that is made to help facilitate human work.
If it's in a game maybe I will reject the use of Al, but if it's only to help support services or in chat rooms maybe this can be accepted.
So far I have seen that many gambling sites have used Al to help the team in support, service and also in chat rooms.

Of course there is a difference when you play with another person and when your opponent is AI. 
First of all, because you don’t even know approximately how strong the enemy is, who uses AI or even represents AI without human participation.  Even when I have to choose an opponent in the game, I will be very upset and puzzled if I even know a little bit that AI is being used at least in some form.  Maybe someone likes to play with AI.  But this is simply because of the interest in the new fashionable technology, and not at all because of the passion for gambling itself.  And this necessarily imposes some kind of technical and rather formal flair on the game itself. 
So I categorically do not want to play with AI, but I want to play relevant games only with real people who have their own emotions and can make mistakes and get upset and nervous, however, of course, just like myself.  :)

You are very correct, I wouldnt want to mention names, but I know atleast, two casinos that have implemented Ai bots in their customer support chat to help to facilitate queries from customers pending when a real human being would answer the chat, and personally, this bots are so intelligent that some times, one might not even take notice that he or she is chatting with a bot, atleast, I've had a first hand experience with this.

Like I said in my previous comment, if it ever get to a time when Ai becomes a threat to casinos and some type of games., casinos will definitely come together a possible solution to the threat.

I think it depends on your purposes. If i want to get profit - you will use all advantages you can get - including AI. If you`re gambling for fun, to get some emotions - it would be better to gamble by yourself - it much more exciting to make a bet with your own analyze and watch the match after it. For casino games nothing changes i think.

I think casinos have thought about AI technology so that people can take advantage of this technology to get gambling wins, I know AI technology cannot fully help our gambling aspects, but it can analyze or predict how to win a little from casinos, I have never tried it but I have seen that there are also many games that use AI technology or AI gambling.

I'm not sure that AI can work in gambling and be effective because after all it's still as smart as AI doesn't fully read how to play opponents or casinos, to be honest no one knows what AI gambling is like, I'm more interested in the old ways of playing ordinary casinos than with AI.

Well no, only to the main page, but when it is given to start it shows that it cannot be accessed, and also not even with VPN because for the registration the telephone number of the country where you reside is needed, but the number with a chip because the numbers that are digital, no, so because I live in a prohibited country (which I don't see any sense in) what I know about Chatgpt is what I've seen on YouTube, and despite this I've only seen videos of the free version, and although the The tool is powerful, I imagine that Chatgpt-4 can do many Things that it can't, like videos, drawings, the rest I think it's still Programmed to not make Predictions.

It seems that on average those who use AI to gamble are not only interested in new fashion technology but also because of a desire to be able to win games more easily.
But unfortunately we cannot detect or predict who is using AI or which games tend to have a more difficult chance to win because there is help from Al, making it more difficult for us as gamblers.
I honestly prefer some sports betting over a game to avoid using AI.
What you want is what most gamblers want but it seems hard to find.

It seems that the 2 gambling sites you are referring to are the same as the site I encountered regarding the use of bots in their chat support.
Maybe this is a breakthrough to make the team's work easier and it's true that the bots they use are very smart, even if we don't observe them in detail, it's hard to tell whether it's chatting with the team directly or with bots.

I also believe that the casino will have solutions and measures in place to prevent Al from harming or adversely affecting the gambling industry in the future.

No one will see an express, cheap and easy way of doing things and still prefer going through the norms, this is the general believe but that does not apllies in every conditions, another typical example is that you can make use of AI on the forum but it is not allowed if you're participating on a signature campaign, also you can be gambling under the use of this same AI but i can bet you thay not all games or bet will favour you with the use of AI, which means there must be proper application of AI where necessary and where it is not necessarily needed for use.

Your example is incorrect. Using AI for posts is the same to using AI for betting. But i don`t talk about using AI for betting - it is about analyze. the AI gives you the result that you can use yourself as you want.
Of course some casino will restrict using AI and, probably use AI to analyze their odds. But it means that the casino will get advantage. It is difficult enough to be honest to both sides in this question.

I think we need to stop discussing this over and over again and accept that AI and gambling have no match at all. Artificial Intelligence is not yet designed to be compatible with any kind of gambling whether it's sports betting, poker, or any other gambling game or activity. If one tries using it to get instructions and gameplay techniques, it might repeat the same things already available on the internet, but it won't come up with anything new.

That is why, we should simply just forget this and move on for now, and when the time is right and AI becomes compatible with gambling, we will definitely come to know about it and then we should discuss it and try it as well.

Betting with AI in these times does not make sense, firstly because they are in very beta mode, and secondly because they have not yet been programmed with the precision that is needed, I could not say if in 5 years the prediction capacity of the robot will be almost perfect , but I think it will get closer because there are so many events that can be seen having an AI that I am sure will give the most optimal response, and as a result these things can happen, but when it is more advanced, then for now making bets with AI is losing easy, but in the near future it will be the card to success.

Ai could be useful in the early stages of our gambling activities, but we couldn't always rely on it. Since the program, as well as answers, are always the same, they are not long-term solutions. However, there is no assurance that we will always receive responses from Ais when it comes to tactics. It would be preferable if we relied on our expertise and comprehension of gambling. We can't deny the fact that Ai is getting really useful in our daily activities which benefit our career, studies, and so on but it still needs more development before it exceeds human intelligence.

The process should be similar to the one trading AIs have to go through, in which roughly 80% of the data is given to them and the rest is kept from the AI in order to test the model that it has been created, this way you can test the effectivity of the AI immediately against results you already have in hand, still the process should be incredibly complex and I do not expect that your average person should be able to do something as difficult as this.

That means that you would fully trust the AI when playing the game for the first few times, yes? for when to stop? when to know stop? Because if we are playing with the AI and if we keep playing and winning and winning? How would you do it or what would that criteria be like to do it, I think that some rules can be made, because AI can help you think faster than us, but it must also have something like a limit and that limit can be established by the same programmer, but if this is the case, you must be fully sure of doing it so as not to lose money , because it is the last Straw to also lose with something safe.

Well, you are very correct, betting with Ai at the moment is a total waste of money for the same reasons you already explained..

How ever, I will still say that even in the long run, we can't completely depend or base our betting decisions on Ai, because they still won't be completely programed to take into consideration unforseen circumstances like bad whether, a player sustaining a serious injury and can no longer play, or a player getting a red card, thereby sent out of the field which also reduces the number of players for that team, this are circumstances and more, Ai can't really predict before it happens, and we all know that this can negatively(for the affected team) and positively(for the unaffected team) affect the outcome of a match.

I very much agree with everything you said. In gambling, AI might not really be considered perfect in making predictions now compared to human ideas. But if, in a few months or a year to come, it has really been tested and verified to be more perfect at making accurate predictions and winning than humans, then everyone will even want to use it, including myself. When given thought to some kind of matter like this, I always considered some implications and possibilities as well, and what I was reasoning one day was that if truly, this gambling AI becomes more accurate in making more wins than humans, that's going to result in bad business for all these casinos, and they can go out of business because gamblers will not lose so much. Again, I was thinking that this casino owner can even make the AI biased in the sense that it might also create more losses for gamblers after they have started using it. But I am yet to see what the late result of this AI in gambling will look like. Might be good or not.

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There are similar concepts already existing, that are powered digitally. Using AI might be able to improve this concept in terms of efficiency and speed however I don't see how much it could be improved with AI outside of that. For example, in terms of fairness, if it is truly fair already, AI won't make it any fairer.


Of course. I am pretty sure that already exists.

I appreciate what AI can do for us but not all areas work great, especially in gambling. Though we can solicit ideas from this stuff, however, it was just limited. As I've tried betting using AI, it only suggests choosing the higher odds which it mentions to have a bigger chance to win and I think that is a similar thing we do when betting. That is why I would agree with you saying that the use of AI in gambling doesn't make sense. Apparently, they have the idea but it was not reliable enough to trust compared to us human.

Intelligence can't be the probability of winning so the reality is they may have more data, knowledge, analysis and possible outcomes but if the bet is fair then the results will be unknown until it happens so AI can never beat the basics but it can kill the entire casino systems cause what if everyone opts to choose AI for betting and they just let it decide then human civilization will move away from gambling which has been a part of it since the beginning.

Well , but with those quick stats that you got, it's obvious that some of the AI that you use are viable , because in part it Increased your success rate , and that's what matters , so if you take a balance or try to add a little more to it of Effort at your discretion and you take into consideration the criteria or recommendations given by the AI , you can obtain a higher success rate , which translates into having a lot of money earned , not bad , of course that is what comes to mind the mind, with Respect to the bets everything can Happen , if you have extra help like that , I think that if it is Possible and if it is to continue winning it is not bad , of course Human Judgment will Always be a great Plus.

With that artificial intelligence, AI can provide more data and the probability will also be higher to win. And I don't think an AI system can beat the casino because I think the casino will implement AI into its system to detect fraud or even prevent gamblers from winning on many occasions. The progress of AI technology will become faster, supported by the advancement of technology itself, so maybe we will see it happen soon.

But for us to bet, we don't only need data or information provided by Al because we also need to take everything into account, we ourselves already understand, of course, that a bet is very difficult to win if you only rely on information, especially in a bet, the results for winning will change. so there is no certainty or guarantee that the use of Al can give victory.
True casinos will definitely have some kind of bot to detect such actions and what is certain is that casinos will never let gamblers win bets or games easily.

It depends on what purposes you have. I haven`t so much time for betting, for me gambling is a type of rest and i prefer to lose some small sum but bet by myself. May be i`m mistaken and it is possible to get much more money from gambling but i have a job i need to do and not enough time to make lots of bets.

That is why it is really better to play just for fun. I think those gamblers want AI because they want to guarantee winnings on them and make a living on it which we know that in gambling it is impossible with it , also you are right it isn't 100% guaranteed you win as there are still emotions taking place there which we know AI doesn't have so it really depends on hard data that you getting from it , and also most sports even the weakest one has a chance to win a game so it cant be predicted by the AI about it

We are players and as such we want to play, have fun and win, it's a lie that one only wants to have fun, of course, that's what everyone says, but what matters and what everyone knows and wants is that there is a gnania, there can be a lot fun but if there is no profit how can you do? I understand that the point of every casino is for everyone to have fun, but unfortunately there can always be many unexpected results on the part of the players, and it is not winning, you have to accept that when playing in a casino you must take into account that you can lose and it is the most probable, that is how to mature the behavior of the casino.

Mate, you're handling this betting scenario with precision! My approach to betting also errs on the side of caution, it's more of a tranquil pastime. But if an AI could enhance my game, why not give it a whirl?

I fully grasp that we can't all afford to be perpetually riveted to our devices, waiting for the betting odds to swing in our favor. There are obligations to fulfill. However, delegating the computational labor to AI doesn't detach you from the process. Imagine this scenario: you're in the kitchen, and there's a sous-chef assisting with the prep work. You're still the virtuoso at the stove, aren't you?

Undeniably, there's something to be said about the human touch. The AI can't mimic the exhilaration of making the final call. But if it can tip the scales in your favor, I'm entirely on board. Always remember to keep your wits about you when you're in the game, my friend!

The use of AI, in essence, is to be able to provide data that can be our consideration in placing bets. We can rely on information from AI, but we have to sort it out to choose and place bets. But if we still doubt the use of AI, we don't need to use it and keep using the methods we have used before. We must realize that the casino will take preventive measures to prevent gamblers from winning repeatedly because it will be detrimental to the casino. That is why we must also know that the gambling industry will develop more advanced with many new technologies that will be applied to the casino system.

Even with the use of AI there's no guarantee for winning in gambling because the AI have been set up in some instance to only help improve on the quality of the games and betting we make including increased level of satisfaction we gain from using the casino but not as a tool to facilitate our winning probability, the use of AI also brings about having a real lifetime experience with gambling to get the best fun from it.

I highly suggest revisiting the OP of this thread because both of you are discussing an AI topic that is not related to the real discussion of this thread. OP AI gambling means you literally bet on games that result is controlled by AI that OP example is virtual horse racing in comparison to real horse racing. I think many of us here don't mind any more if we bet on real or virtual since we are playing virtually too in online casino.

I think the integrity of the game might be in question since it's run by AI and a developer can find a way to rig this kind of game.

This scenario is only the part of gambling. As for me betting with my own predictions much more exciting. In such situations i watch the match, analyze the game online and probably make additional bets. It is really exciting. But if i believe AI - i can increase profit but i`ll bet just 1-2 bets and will go for a work, or, probably in the kitchen :)

Since gambling is a fun way to spend your free time AI gambling sounds pretty stupid to me actually  :D but if you have fun trying what you can archive with using an AI then go for it. The results will however not be that great in the usual luck based games. An AI would probably only perform very good in a skill based gambling scenario, but I don’t know many gambling games that would require a high skill that can not also be archived by the person playing.

I think a vast majority of gamblers don't gamble only for the money but they also enjoy gambling while having the thought that they might win something from it, and even those who gamble for money would probably like to do it themselves, someone using AI to bet on their behalf should simply try something else like trading where they can use a bot to get profit.

The essence of gambling gets lost if we use bots or AI for betting even if they are generating good results, I mean what's the fun in that? I personally would never do that even if I know that might increase the probability of winning.

So do I, I like your opinion about using AI in trading instead since it can be more usable compared to using it into gambling, maybe there are some who will explore and will try it out but for most gamblers, the fun still on the side of it and using AI will remove that or lessen the adrenalin, though there are different gamblers and for sure the opinions are all different from one another.

At the end of the day, the decision will remain at the gambler's end whether to use it or not either to earn or to have some fun.

I don't feel comfortable playing games with AI because my chances of winning are always much lower than normal , I think I would play with an AI if I wouldn't bet and that's just for Fun , because what chance is there to win against an AI?  If you are in a casino it is because your way of playing is much higher than the average , so that means that when we are in a casino there is Already a house advantage and Apart from the advantage that is more than 1% for the IA has no choice but to know that there is not much Opportunity , Maybe starting we will win and that as a sweetener but after Nothing to do.

We are in the beginning 9f AI and w have not even seen it all. I know.with time, sophisticated artificial intelligence will be produced and people would have not option than to opt in and to it because it is will be the order of the day. As people get into AI to build and do different thing with AI, very soon man power jobs will be limited because AI would be available to do them and make life easier for us even in betting and other forms. Very soon casinos would limit the use of AI in betting to reduce the risk it could pose to other users that are not AI freak. We are only at the beginning of the revolution for artificial intelligence dominance.

Another reason if you rely on AI predictions I think you will lose more than win because you have to remember AI is not completely correct and your decision to choose your own predictions is much better.

Is there any AI that would support the gambler's winnings? I guess not.
Even if there are some, the gambling casino site will never implement such AI on their casino because the main purpose of the casino is that people lose more while the casino wins more (from a casino point of view).

So if any casino advertises that they have implemented AI in their casino games, keep in mind, this won't be anything good for the gamblers themselves.

I can understand this because indeed most gamblers bet to get a number of wins.
But if they decide to use Al and really rely on Al, that is actually wrong because using Al does not guarantee a win in every bet.
The most important thing that gamblers must always remember is that in every sports match, not only one or two bookies provide sports betting, so it is impossible for the bookie to easily let gamblers win bets because of the many bookies they definitely want to get big profits so that the final result is from these matches it is possible to have a little action such as manipulation but not all matches can be manipulated.

Unfortunately, not all of the data provided by Al can be used to predict the results correctly because after all, Al only provides data and it is we who manage to make the right predictions ourselves, so it is better to just learn all the knowledge about sports and game strategies so that we don't really rely on Al.
After all, we as gamblers also need experience, not only chasing victory.

That of betting everything on horses is not a bad idea, but if it applies to horses it should bet for each sport, fútbol, basketball, baseball, whatever , as long as you bet with great measure , the AI can give us approximations , the Algorithms are not so perfect as to be able to appeal to having them as a whole, they have their flaws and they are looking for a way to improve them to have better results, what happens is that if that magic formula is found it will be total madness, because the people will want to have that AI to win and Platforms will Start to shut down in a measure to Protect Themselves.

At the very least, the time we spend searching for data will be shorter by using AI. But we really shouldn't depend on AI especially now that AI technology still needs further development. If we can still get data from valid places and add data from AI, it will add insight and knowledge to us so that we can analyze better than before. And our chances of being able to choose the right team may be greater so that it can provide a chance to win. And it is true that gamblers need experience to help them choose the right team.

I don`t sure it is so. The AI works with the same information as i have. And he makes the analyze without any emotions. Of course i can notice something, that the AI doesn`t has in it algorithm and it is the only advantage in my predictions. There is an additional advantage in online bets - when i see how the teams play i can make fast decision due to new information. But all most the AI predictions gives more profit.

It probably has more specific information about games than you already have, but you're correct about AI being capable of analyzing games without any emotions or depth. AI predictions can sometimes be accurate could be ranging from 50% to 60% correctness (in my opinion).

I believe that AI predictions can offer logical insights through quotes and other data but as we know it doesn't always work that way. For example, when Team X is up against Team Y, if the quote for Team X winning is 2.90 and for Team Y winning is 1.12, it wouldn't be surprising if Team X ends up winning. There's no guarantee in gambling and anything can happen. Therefore, it's better for a gambler to make their own gambling decisions rather than relying on any third-party tools like AI.

It's possible that because human dot connecting is different from algorithm, and that they can technically pick up things that AI would miss, but most likely outcome is that humans are missing a lot of stuff in various fields that AI notices without an effort. Even if there was a huge study group of people examining what to bet on.

Imho it boils down to the question, why are you gambling in the first place. Do you want to maximise the money by removing your intuitions and decisions from the gambling or are your own decisions and hunch the reason why it keeps on being fun.

We can makenuse of AI in many sport bettings but i don't think they were all best for this, let's look at the horse race bettings which has to be a live sport event onnan open field, how can the modification of AI be applicable in this kind of sport if not on other relevant areas it use can be applicable, also i believe that the use of AI can't be as accurate as expected in winning games but can enhance the user's experience in using them.

In fact, AI has been ahead of the curve in the prediction game, speedily crunching numbers from enormous datasets. But sports are a wild, unpredictable thing, and the smallest changes can have a huge impact on the outcome of the game.

Finally, your natural instincts take centre stage. If you keep a close eye on the action, you can spot clues that computer programmes might miss. Only a seasoned player can detect a little limp in an athlete's stride or a momentary pause in their game, both of which could prove decisive.


But let's be honest; we're not angels, either. Emotions, biases, and simple human error can cloud our judgement. Because of this, why not take a balanced approach, combining the pinpoint accuracy of AI with the insight of humans? This dual approach has the potential to amp up the benefits while minimising the downsides of both.

I have emotions, AI hasn`t. Of course it is possible that AI mistakes, but the same is true for my predictions. For your example we don`t need to know much details, we can just look in the table and see what places teams are. But AI can predict that winning of Team X has big chances and it will be interesting to bet with such odd.

And the AI can find something that i willn`t see. It is true for both sides.
And i totally agree with your words about purposes. Want to increase profit - use AI, want more emotions and possible big wins - bet yourself.

All bets are risky. The AI predictions have no emotions and the AI doesn`t miss any information that we gave him. So the main question is what purpose in your gambling.

That's exactly the point I see as well why AI based gambling is not going to succeed long term. There are usually two types of motivation behind a gambler, it's either for entertainment or for making money, or a mix of the two. In case we now use AI to gamble for us, then the whole point of having fun disappears. What fun is there if the AI makes all the decision for us. So the only real point to use AI to gamble for us would be if we want to make money with it. Here the problem is that all the luck based  casino games are designed to include a house hedge. This guarantees that the casino makes money longterm and the player strategies are losing money long term.

It sometimes happens that the outcome of a sports event goes against the odds and the team that had very high odds of winning will lose to a team that doesn't have a very good performance in the competition, and it is never guessable whether it's you or an AI making the prediction because such outcomes come by surprise and all of a sudden.

As you said, AI can be your best companion that will help you with the research and analysis for a specific match that you are willing to place a bet on, but it can only do that if it has the latest available data in it's training.

AI in gambling without a doubt it will help us to bet faster and also it will help us to study further in some games but one thing for sure that In the World of gambling even AI can predict the outcome for example in sports game or sports betting not all the time it will accurate and good because sometimes once a lucky team or a lucky fighter can still win even though in their hopeless situation .

Like I've previously said in one of my comments on this thread, Ai can indeed predict the outcome of games pretty good because, there are some factors it will easily put in to consideration which is really to complex for the human mind to comprehend fast or even remember, but, it still won't completely take the place of humans predicting the out come of games themselves cus there also some factors or change of events that could happen in the dying minute which the Ai won't be able to consider in its prediction, but could utterly change the outcome of the game, example is a major player who is believed to be playing  in the coming game suddenly falling sick or injured in an accident, and is no longer going to play, or maybe a player by mistake scoring an own goal, or maybe a VAR having to cancel a goal as it is considered to be offside.

All the above can utter the outcome of any match, and this is something that Ai can't predict before they happen.

Same as other sports. An AI can always check the previous statistics of each horse based on its record online. Horse racing usually uses the same horse or producer in every race. But an AI has limited use in this kind of match because animals condition is very hard to rate compared to human players.

An AI can be applied to almost any sport as long as there's data available for analysis.

Before AI came to an existence, horse race has been on ground so there is real element of horse race betting even as the AI is taking over the net. In casino or sport game, there are real ones and animated ones so as player, you can select the one you prefer.

Not in the future but it is happening concerning your dream to come. Before you realize your dream to come people have used metaverse. There is a friend of mine who use to play games online with friends in different cities and Countries. There are sometimes that when they are playing they don't even know themselves.

This is why those thinking they can somehow let an AI do all the work for them and earn a fortune while they gamble are just dreaming needlessly, however an expert gambler could in fact improve their results significantly as they could be able to notice details that are impossible for the AI to find out on its own, so combining an AI and a human can produce better results than just using either of them, a combination which is already taking place in other fields and which is proving to be the most efficient way to move forward on those fields.

The rule that AI can play in sports bets is in clubs analysis and how their previous statistics have been then it will be left to the gambler to make something out of that and make the final decision on the bets this is why it becomes imperative to mentioned the none total reliance on AI to make a game decision but to serve as a basis to supply information to decide on.
While the fame of AI is spreading widely on the internet, we must know that AI is not 100% efficient since it cant make real-time decisions.

Yes, and of course, the AI at the moment does not have a profound impact on the casino or any game that involves sports betting, this applies in the near future, I think that in 1-2 years the AI will have another impact, maybe the algorithms prediction will already have them much more effective and improved, that is where it will be interesting to apply the AI to play, because here I know that everyone will try the AI to win in the casino, then at that moment it is where everything will be seen in a different way way, because the security protocols for a casino will be focused only on AI for their protection.


Yes, exactly it is a fact, when the AI is not a 100% infallible option at least you have the statistics and they can have probabilities based on the performance of the players, also taking into account the style of play proposed by the technical director, In football lately, the responsibility for losing or winning lies with the coaches, so this means that AI can be a help tool for pro analysis now, its effectiveness is evaluated as time goes by, it is what which I can easily intuit based on how the AI thing has boomed.

More on recommendations based on past games, information that is available around the internet where AI are outsourcing their ideas, and Yes, still gamblers decision-making matters. It's not an accurate winning information, but more on trying to base your next pick on the information that AI supplies to you.

It's worth mentioning that it can help if you are more into statistically-based gambling strategies, if you are conservative and you
always do your research before placing your bets.

When gamblers don't depend too much on information from AI and always analyze more about what they find and then decide, they can find out how the AI is performing so they can decide whether to continue using AI or can they continue using the methods they have used previously. So they can use two different ways to get more useful information when deciding which team to choose. The use of AI is currently still being developed because its performance may not be able to satisfy its users. But when technology is more advanced, AI will also be even more advanced than now.

For me I don't want to use AI in gambling it because there's a big chance that AI can not predict in the future so we can not say that through AI we will win but sad to say That AI is not just a very good and bad maybe we can use for a small period of time because once You will Lazy and then you can use AI in order to pit your bet easier and fast.

Conditions are always hard to rate or evaluate for an AI whether it's about an animal or a human, an AI model can only provide analysis based on the previously available data which can be inaccurate because it is not possible for the most recent data to be up and available for an AI model to analyze and provide results based on that, that is why it is always better if a human does things like that and that is also why an AI cannot provide accurate results.

AI models should only be used as an assistant for whatever you are doing, whether it's sports betting or anything else, don't just rely on what the AI is giving you, and always double-check the facts and figures yourself before you base your decisions on them.

It is not a big chance of AI not predicting the outcome but rather AI can not predict the result of gambling.  Even with their database and analysis, AI cannot outsmart the randomness of gambling.  Besides AI cannot tell the future, they can only give us the possible outcome but in no way can tell us the actual result.  AI is just a data processing tool and need complete information in order to tell the precise thing. And in the current ability of AI where a simple inquiry Ai is unable to give a precise answer, there is no way AI gambling can predict the outcome of gambling with lots more variables and unknown data.

I also don't want to use AI in gambling because I haven't found out how or seen anyone who has won bets using AI. But if someday there are people who manage to win that bet using AI, perhaps I'll try it and see the results. The use of AI will depend on us. If we can use it well, we can benefit from AI. But if not, AI will not give any results and might have an effect that is not good for us. But this can make us lazy to look for more information because AI has provided everything, so we only need to decide.

It is absolutely difficult to win a bet with the use of Artificial Intelligence bot to gamble because there can't give an accurate analysis of current events unless those that are encoded into them, there have not been a recordinging of AI usage in gambling since AI is A new development that is just making waves and this thread was created just to discuss the possibility AI usage in gaming.

I also think that the casino will not be ok with that idea since it will look as if the gambler wants to cheat the casino by the use of a bot since some casino disallow the use of bot.

if you think that AI is your best solution in gambling then you are wrong about that ^{(even some experts say AI is a threat)}, when you use AI for your gambling, what is feared is that you suffer from addiction because of that, besides that AI is an algorithmic robot, are you sure you will entrust the results of your gambling to this tool?  the healthiest and best way to gamble is that you use your own mind, don't rely on tools like AI or other people because that will only make your decisions more chaotic.

Can AI predict the outcome of a gamble with 100% accuracy? Highly doubtful! Gambling, at its core, is unpredictable - that's the thrill of it! Its true that AI hasnt exactly set the gambling world on fire yet. But is it because AI can't be of help, or is it because we havent figured out how to fully harness its potential yet? That's the million-dollar question.

I agree that casinos wouldnt be thrilled about AI, considering it could potentially give the gambler an unfair edge. But isn't it similar to counting cards, which although frowned upon, isn't technically cheating?

While I share your apprehension, I also believe in the endless potential of AI. If harnessed correctly, who knows? Maybe it could revolutionize the way we gamble!

This AI discussion will not work and no gambling platform will allow the use of bots in their casino that's why artificial intelligence development will sell well to casino clients since it has nothing rhetorically to add to the outcome either for or against the casinos the player and this will result into going in a cycle which is not something most of us will like to try, and even if you managed to win using AI, the casino can still freeze your account on the offence of using the artificial feature in the class of bot.

There are casinos out there that allows the use of bots already, so I'm not sure how 'unfair' would an AI be especially on games that are not really requiring that much skill (dice, roulette, and other luck-based games). Even if it's deployed on games like Blackjack and other card games, there wouldn't be that much of a difference after all - the side of the casino still manages the games and has full control of everything. There may be some restrictions to AIs, but then again it wouldn't be an unfair advantage. It would only be something that's convenient to the player, but not to the point that the player is cheating IMO.

There are different parts of gambling, and AI might be able to master some of them, but the main thing is that casino businesses can't let that happen, because if AI starts gambling with an accuracy of just 70%, that will be a disaster for gambling platforms, they will only have two options if something like that happens, they will either use AI to counter the situation or simply ban using AI models in their casinos and those found will get banned forever.

Also, if an AI model is created that gains success in gambling, it won't be easily accessible for everyone and developers will surely large a very large sum to give access to anyone because anyone can easily get the return on their investment with the model using any cryptocurrency exchange.

Yeah, there are site that allows bot to connect thier system and let gambler to use it, for sure casino owners and developers knows that if there's already cheating or if that system already sucking their bankroll adjustment will be done to counter those system, they'll not going to let that system or program to beat them and to make them a cash-cow.


I'm not sure but if I'm the developer or if I will manage to create working AI, maybe I will keep it and use it to earn decent amount of money before it will be exploit. Sooner or later the house will counter it and the chances to will be slim.

That's the right to do if ever you create a working AI that will help you win in sports betting, but of course, I will diversify and will not try it on one casino, because they will be suspecting you of using a system too consistently win, even if you're a good bettor its important to diversity and use at least 3 to 5 bookies or casinos so if one traced you and flag you, you still have 3 or 4 casinos to use your system.

In my opinion, of course, it will be necessary to prohibit participation in the AI ​​game if the probability of his winning is really 70% or more.  Or even if it is slightly above 50%, the consequences for the gambling industry will also be catastrophic.  
Even now, even on our forum, signature campaign  managers write all the time that they are struggling with posts created by AI.  And sometimes they even give bonuses to those who accurately guess and recognize a post written by AI.  And it is absolutely right that such countermeasures are applied even on our forum.  

Needless to say, all casinos are already seriously concerned about the use of AI in games and are looking for ways to block such players and other measures to counter AI in games on their platforms.  
Most likely, this will lead to recognition and a complete ban on the use of AI in casino gambling.

This seems like an NFT game for me which is also a form of betting I suppose since it involves money and risk.

Before, I knew a game that sounds like this one. The players are the ones to upgrade and "fine-tune" the horses and the player whose horse who will win will of course, have the winning prize to enjoy for himself. But the thing is, it is done in a gaming mode that isn't nowhere near being realistic where you might mistake it from playing sportsbetting through real horses and real environment. It might be a good idea to adapt this one since it doesn't directly involves animals that might be hurt in the process of the game, rather an AI only that you could tweak into your liking and to reach your goal of winning.

If, in fact, when things are measured from the point of view of AI, it is natural that at the moment the results they want are not seen, or users believe that it is missing a lot, what happens is that the AI that are of prediction have to be perfected, because first many maneuvers and tests have to be done for the systems that are more protected, the security systems are always very alert to detect the AI and above all the basis of any game is randomness and it is difficult even for an AI to decipher that can occur at a certain moment, taking into consideration the possible events of a casino game.

It is like this, I think that one way to recognize that it can be AI is that it plays at a very high speed, one as a human being cannot play at a certain speed and the only suqs can do it are the bots, this is the same as in the trading, there are times when bots are the only ones capable of making certain movements , that is the key for casinos to be able to determine or detect that it is an AI that is interacting, this is very basic, it is obvious that they will also optimize those speeds based on what They seem like a human , but I think that for that there is Still a long way to go.

AI needs access to the data to be able to maximize its potential.  If AI does not have any access to the information it will either return with an apology answer since it can't tell anything due to lack of information or create a random statement full of non-sense.  I have seen some AI that give random incorrect information.  It is also not far from happening in AI when used in Casino since AI do not have access to important information about the game features and scripts.


Obviously, when the game is played at ultra speed, it is assisted by a Bot.  Bot is not really an AI but AI can be integrated in Bot.  I also agree that AI tech has a long way to go for perfection.  There are lots of errors and glitches in their current performance and somehow I do not find AI to be self-sufficient at this moment.  They still need human intervention to perform in an acceptable manner.

Scammers will guess to reduce the speed of interaction of the Chatgpt Bot with gambling platforms. And then, in this regard, Bots will be indistinguishable from humans. But there are other factors by which it will be possible to calculate whether a person or a trained Bot is playing: for example, these are button clicks. Also, when a person moves the mouse over a stop, the trajectory of the cursor on the screen is not a straight line. But when the bot clicks, the trajectories follow straight lines. This is how the captcha is checked so often.

How will the outcome change if the dice are rolled by an algorithm? And more importantly, what if that algorithm is frighteningly accurate?

Casino businesses facing this imminent threat have two paths laid out before them: to adapt or to resist. They could harness the power of AI to level the playing field, or they could outright ban the use of AI in gambling. And why shouldnt they? An entity that constantly makes winning moves isnt a player—its a threat

But then again, the thought that a sophisticated gambling AI will be readily available to everyone seems rather far-fetched, doesnt it? There's no doubt that its creators would charge a small fortune for it

Even our humble forum is not immune to the infiltration of AI. Signature campaign managers are combatting AI-generated posts, indicative of the apprehension that surrounds this technology. A complete ban on AI in gambling seems imminent, if not inevitable.

Gambling in AI can work in so many ways. We have gambling bots like the one created by Seuntjie or so called dice bot but the latest AI would be ChatGpt where it can gather analysis. It can be a mathematical calculation if it's about luck-based games such as dice but it will be statistical information for sports betting. Maybe we have more chance that it will work in sports betting more than the casino games which are entirely based on luck.

I think those who will use AI are not really good at analyzing but it does not really mean that they are lazy. If you are already good at it then I suggest just do it manually because you will have more confidence with it.

But the majority will use it in a casino, it is not that it can be so easy to determine that the result is made by an AI, it differs when you can apply the AI to a casino with games such as dice, roulette, it is easier to determine that it is used an AI than in sports betting, I think so because in a bet that is for a specific sport, the algorithm of an AI is easier to hide in a casino, or it doesn't even need to be inside the casino, that's why I think that things are not that easy for a casino to determine what is AI. besides, everything is AI, anything is an AI, it's the fashion.

I haven't tried it in a while, so I don't know how to use that Artificial Intelligence bot. AI may still be in the experimental stage, which the developer is still carrying out to ensure that AI can work optimally according to the developer's wishes.

Well, perhaps the casinos will reject this idea, but maybe the casinos will use another AI that can withstand the use of AI from gamblers. So we still don't know because the use of AI in casinos is also not obvious or has been seen, but we don't know for sure.

It is a bot, but it seems that the latest AI is not like that because the AI itself can think of the steps or sequences that must be carried out so that we don't have to give complicated commands. AI can figure out what they should do, and we can ask them what result they got. The AI may also give a percentage of all the possibilities that the AI gets during the information search. In the meantime, we should still use manual methods to find the information we want and do further analysis.

You are right, personally when we have many commitments such as work, we always do our best when we play to get out of the routine, or get out of the stress that can be maintained and also to be able to make a change in our lives, it is like a way out to have fun, that's why I think he says it, for that reason it's good to take the game as a way to have fun even if it implies that we want to win all the time, it can't be avoided, we are human and we always want the best, I understand your point I recommend the slots as a measure of fun, it is the best, especially the ones from stake.com and the one from bitcasino.io and even these have a high RTP.

Gambling should really be for fun and not something that you would treat it up as some sort of making some income because thats not how gambling works in the first place. Dont make yourself believe on things

which are impossible. Gambling is for entertainment and leisure and dont expect something from it when it comes to money making because thats not how it works. There are really just those people who are really that having that unrealistic approach when it comes to gambling on which trying out their best on testing out various ways and methods just for them to believe that there is really some
loop hole or whatsoever for them to win up constantly.

AI gambling does sound? In speaking about functionality then it would be beneficial but speaking about using AI to take advantage about results then it would really be that impossible.

That era will come, only because now it is beginning, it is beginning and for now AI dominance may be low, but according to what we currently have, it is obvious that there is still a lot to develop and apart from all that I could say that there must be a lot of programmers working hard just to get an AI trained enough to achieve at least 90+% betting efficiency, I find it easier to predict results in sports than to beat a casino system. Therefore, for now, the wish of many, which is to beat a casino and get rich, will not come true for now.

Browsing the internet and different social networks, I have come across many courses, certifications that have to do with AI, apparently the interest in AI is great, but learning and programming? there are many people who have never programmed and AI programming for newbies may seem very complicated, however they are taking it to be able to have more knowledge and not be left behind.

The programmers wants to prove that they can make an perfect AI for betting. Maybe they can make that things happen because we all know how technology work these days. And by the help of our knowledgeable programmer they can make things possible. And also it will help us to bet fast and accurate. But if that's happen the owner of the casino will not let that happen so that they can not loss a lot of money.

Even we gamblers wouldn't want AI to invade the gambling business and ruin its essence of it because if that happens, it won't be fun anymore. Things should stay the way they are, they should improve but should completely change from one thing to another. Gambling is meant to be for humans and it should be done by humans as well, what's the fun in using an AI model that gambles for you even if you are winning?

But again, some people won't have the same mindset and they would think of doing anything only to get profit, but casino businesses will surely find a way to counter this attack if it happens in the future and I'm in favor of this and don't want AI to intervene in this area.

Yep, i forgot about slots. The most time i try to bet some sports events, after it i watch the game, it becomes more exciting. But the slots are interesting and very good decision when you haven`t enough time. You can spend just 15-20 minutes and stop the game.

Agree with you, that's why I have never used this advanced technology for my gambling games, after all what's good about not enjoying gambling games because I have to use AI, to be honest I play gambling for fun but when I have to use AI it doesn't seem like it would be fun either, if people use AI of course the casino will also use that to fight because it is impossible for a casino to sit idly by and go bankrupt because this AI technology can beat the casino later.

Gambling must involve humans and the human touch because without it we don't really look like playing gambling, but we don't know how in the next few years whether this technology will be used in gambling as people are worried about and thinking about at this time.

I can bet on AI horses I guess, I mean I can see the potential of it getting cheated in the code probably increases the chance of winning of the other horses depending on the bets, We did try to make a simple horse game and it could just easy generate a random winner or picking a random horse that is going to win the race, but at the same time, it can easily be rigged by just line of codes. Real horses are still the best I guess.

For sure gambling will have a place in the metaverse in the future if the metaverse continue to be successful I can clearly see how gambling will be implemented, I mean we can already see a lot of gambling casino online, and with could easily implement that in the metaverse using a character, For sure we could just do something similar in on GTA V, Metaverse development probably is postponed we didn't here any news yet but in the future, this is surely going to blow up.

I also don't want the gaming world to go to the AI level, because it would be very bad for everyone, and yes, I think that if it were to be like that, it would lose the excitement, because we cannot compete with an AI that has all the data fresh and instantly and that is capable of calculating immediately, our brain doesn't work that fast, or maybe it does but we don't know how to use it, so it's better that the games remain just games without the need to use AI, but it's something impossible, everyone who has access to the AI will want to win easily and with help, and the AI can make them win.

Well, it is not surprising that they already have it and do not say anything so as not to cause that same effect of scaring people away, since it is known that a normal player will not be able to win against an AI, because it is very difficult to win against a system already implemented without AI, now with AI it would be impossible, I don't know how casinos can protect themselves from AI, but responding with the same weapon is not good, they have to implement another type of security that detects that it is an AI, but that in turn is not an AI, something very difficult, it is a very big challenge for developers.

I have seen many threads where they focus a lot on the AI in the casinos and the effects that they can cause, naturally this is something that impacts, but as for me as many have said, I think that if there is a lot of AI it will take away the emotion To the casinos, and those who use this AI is to benefit from the casino, and get the wins in a way that I don't know if it is considered cheating or not.

Your intention state why you are doing something, and if you believe and you are practicing gambling as your way of entertainment then your argument is true, what's the use of AI if you are not enjoying or if you are not fulfilling your desire or the things that urging you to play, unless you are playing not for enjoying but you are really aiming to win money right?

Just using the alibi that you are playing to have some fun or to kill some time, but the truth is you are aiming to make money out from gambling.

And that's a different thing and maybe will push you to try using AI system to gain some advantage.

But we can't deny that when more technology comes to the gambling industry, casinos will probably implement it into their systems. We can still have fun even though AI is integrated into the casino system. Casinos also don't want the presence of AI to reduce the number of gamblers because there might be gamblers who don't like AI. But we can also use AI because, of course, there is AI for business and AI for users so each code will be different. Casinos must be aware of cheating by users in using AI because there will definitely be cases like that.

Yeah, AI's calculation for odds and predictions can risk the fairness of gambling. But, AI can also ensure honest play by spotting irregularities and cutting human mistakes. Casinos should strike a balance with AI. The main safeguard isn't just using AI against AI, but robust rules and checks. This means strict protocols around tech use by gamblers, and sophisticated tools to spot any unauthorized AI. Remember, it's generally considered foul play to use AI for wins. Casinos and authorities are growing more watchful about such tactics. Regarding 'emotion,' casinos are businesses too. If AI boosts their bottom line, they might welcome it, even if it lessens 'emotion'

It's true that there is a growing fascination with the field, and many individuals are eager to learn and understand its concepts and applications. AI programming can be complex but I usually think that there is not anything worthwhile that is not really challenging. If anyone can make it, I am not really interested because I add no value with my time.

That sounds interesting, only that when an AI is trained with a human and with human logic the AI learns much more and faster, so all those teachings can be quickly digested by the AI, and if so the AI thinks much faster that the human being and once the AI has learned human logic is much better, I think that for an AI to learn something like this it takes hours, or the time that the human being teaches the AI, there it depends on the human being that I try to teach everything I can to the AI, of course in a very logical way and only in this way will the AI be able to overcome human logic and abstract thinking considering the risks and errors of the human being caused by emotions.

It seems to me that quite interesting is just the question of the correlation between the iron logic of AI and the manifestation of some kind of emotional reactions by AI itself.  If the person teaching AI is emotional, then partly emotional reactions and decisions can of course begin to be reproduced in decisions that AI prints on its own without human participation.  However, I think that the emotional component in AI decisions will still be tried to be minimized by its teachers.  And then AI will become completely uninteresting, although all its decisions and recommendations will be strictly logical and corresponding to the optimal solution based on the array of initial data that AI has at the moment.  But the dataset may not be complete and may not even include any element of information critical to the alternative solution.  In such a situation, the emotional component in the final decision could just help.  But I'm not sure that this is the vector of programming for AI that is supported by the majority of the scientific and technical community, which is now engaged in the further improvement of AI.

Actually, it depends on how you used your data come from the AI, people want to beat the current system with their strategy, and people create software just to let them play their games without hassle like automatic bets, auto spin and run and make a bet, those are now indicated to the gambling casino itself.
If you are talking about the AI used for data gathering it's now effective because you can build knowledge and strategy to beat the game itself and even the opponents. Additionally, on it the gambling casino is now making a new feature which is detected if the player is a bot or not the reason why they implement those accounts who has suspicious activity.

Ever since the introduction of the new Artificial Intelligence network in gambling, everyone want to have a different experience and acceptance for the use of this new advance technological system, you will discover that many kicked against it when they found out with many means it could cause a vulnerability attack on their system, if they go against it then we must totally comply strictly to their protocols as they want.

In fact, things here when it comes to the AI are very simple, because in sports betting there is much more hope of winning, because the AI remembers and analyzes very quickly considering the current times, patterns, statistics and at the same time can be generated. time probabilities, and much faster than ourselves, this is something that an AI can do, but it is not known with what efficiency, there is the detail, because starting with a simple algorithm can end up in a very perfect one and with a otherworldly experience, that is what many casinos should fear.


If , the things effectively can be so, everything that they Propose in a casino can fulfill it , but if the AI Advances a lot, computer security in a casino does not go to the back, it will be very difficult to find who uses or not the AI, because In the future, AI will be so simlar to a human that Sometimes it could become Imperceptible, algorithms of AI are getting them improving every time, and that is something that can be procupanmte for some and a grain for others, for now the Ia is not a big deal, it is in a beta phase, the danger is in 2 or 3 years Caunda is fully matured the algorithms and have learned due to training.

People who use in these moments are lost, because it is not perfected , but as said Before, in the future it will be a powerful tool, almost imperceptible for security systems, and if this is united the launch of the PC Quantum is something else.

You are right, but it is worth remembering that AI does not have human intuition, empathy and emotion, and it can make mistakes in the context of human behaviour and perception. Furthermore, the AI is not always able to understand the context.

In fact, the AI's answers are just a collection of knowledge without any emotion.

it is true that AI does not have the human feeling and has the ability to make mistakes but this could be based on the way it was programmed or due to some bugs. Artificial intelligence is a good innovation that will help our society to be make work more easier but the disadvantage is that it is going to replace the job of many persons and people would not be able to get the kind of jobs they used to get. This is a trend and we might see that this trend could become more smarter than us with time.

It does not have emotions and that is one of the things that makes it different from humans.
This trend is gonna be sophisticated soon and people are going to take this advantage and solve so many problems making life easier.

We already use a form of AI in dice bots, and really, if you want to use AI against the house, the only way it'd presumably work, is against a bad dealer.

Funny meme I wanted to share but not a suitable format (and probably not true) but a guy supposedly creating a lazy bot to just all-in on every hand. Won it all apparently as all other bots on the table just kept folding (probably because they wouldn't all-in right from the start!

Right now there must be many looking for the best AI algorithm to be able to beat a game in the casino, that is something that cannot be Avoided, even if they manage to make good progress, it can be assumed that they will try to win to a casino with its AI game, of course I imagine that now the casinos have many ways to have security to avoid this type of abuse, now it is quite a Challenge for the security of the casinos, the truth is that I would not like to be in the position of one of the Computer engineers of the casinos , because Everything that happens is their Responsibility.

Even though AI can act fast on inputs it still can not fit into gambling properly because the development and the programming of the AI are limited and it cant act outside that program unlike humans that can calculate and take actions on games when necessary such as cashing out a reward in the middle of the games AI can not do much so they made it limited in its features.
I don't see how AI can ever fit into humans' apace in gambling and come out with a result that can be said to be positive.

An AI is not your average piece of software, it is true that software created by humans cannot do anything which is outside of its programming, however an AI is different, think of it as a piece of software that evolves on its own, so once it finds out something which does not fits its model instead of just skipping it and do nothing about it, it will include on its model the next time it analyzes the data it has seen, which is what makes AI so powerful to solve difficult problems which would be almost impossible to solve for your average programmer.

I don't understand what you mean by a human teaching an AI about how human logic works and how can an AI model be able to feel or understand emotions, an AI is created with coded algorithms and is trained using data that is also available in written or coded form, so I don't see any possibility in that for a human to teach the AI how human logic works and how it can read and detect or even understand human emotions and stuff.

An AI model can only act like a robot because that is what it is, it cannot go beyond that, and even if we find a way through that, we are not yet there, and it will still take a lot of time for us humans to reach that time when we can include emotions in these models.

I understand your viewpoint. Its binary, a world of ones and zeros, right? But AI extends beyond mere code. Yes, AI' foundation is algorithmic, similar to us. Arent our neurons firing patterns that shape thoughts? Instructing AI on human rationale or emotions isnt akin to making a dog meow. It's about crafting algorithms adept enough to discern patterns, mirroring our brain's functionality. Hence, it's called Machine Learning.

While they cant experience emotions as we do, AI can identify and react to emotional cues through pattern recognition. A smiley indicates happiness, a tear signifies sadness - its about recognizing patterns, not true emotional comprehension. AI might be machines, but they're advancing beyond traditional robotic definitions. Progress takes time. We're in perpetual motion, incessantly innovating. That's the essence of humanity.

That's valid, it's improving the workaround and yes possible that he can excel with the things that he's being program, after gathering more details it can update itself and learn about what's the best fit for its answer something that ordinary program can't do as it's just relying with how it does program, AI might help but still human knowledge will be the main resources.

Different views and opinions, as we will witness things after some time. It's the future that will conclude if how AI will be in terms of
any businesses that it incorporate the system.

All the bets that can be made with robots that have AI for what is being talked about cannot be successful in winning, because there is no programming that can be stronger than that of the casino software , and that sounds very challenging and with very unlikely that an AI can defeat it , I have interacted with chatgpt and when asked questions about games of chance, it says that it does not have the programming to do it or to take it to a real plane, that it is not programmed for that. I see the AI that they are presenting very weak, if there are things it can solve Quickly but others that people are Interested in Cannot.

Very correctly said, and I very much agree with everything you said aside the concluding part you said or assume it is possible to build Ai that exhibit emotion same way humans do but that we have not arrived at such a time..

To be sincere with you, I don't think there will ever be a time we will arrive at a time where Ai can feel, touch and behave the same way humans do, humans will always be humans while bot will always be bot, and in what ever form they used including for gambling, bots will always have some limits compared to humans, humans are dynamic, we all are created to feel and react in different ways and forms, this is a level bots can never attain no matter how sophisticated the tech behind it becomes.

The question is can it truly evolve on its own, can AI actually act outside what is written in its programming codes?
I doubt the possibility of that and if we must be sincere to ourselves we should already know that several limitations come with this development, there is no doubt that it is relatively new and the world is embracing it as one of the developments that will really revolutionize the way tasks are accomplished.
But what place the AI will occupy in the gambling market is what we can not ascertain in reality.

Well, I am not against this AI stuff, but just as I would always tell my friend, I don't really think AI can get better than human gamblers. but until it is really tasted and proven, then we will keep living in the deem light. Normally, these AIs would be programmed with limits to get to in gambling, and I don't think they would also have emotions to say they are going to be gambling with emotions just like some gamblers do, but these AIs are definitely going to have some limitations. What I feel a bit sure about is that It would not gamble with emotions, and it's going to know when to stop gambling, but it definitely cannot cheat the casino system.

Well, I wouldn't say that is impossible, of course, it's possible for an AI model that can see and identify patterns but I wouldn't say that they can as good as humans in understanding emotions. Humans have different natures and different ways to show emotions, not every person sheds tears when they are sad or about to cry, and not everyone smiles only when they are happy. What if a person is faking a smile? Would an AI be able identify that? No.

I know that the world is evolving at an unstoppable speed and so are technology and science, but to be able to achieve things like these, we will still need to be more knowledgeable to be able to bring more perfection to our inventions.

AI will not deceive the casino system because the casino will also use AI to fight it, after all it would not be fun if AI vs AI in the casino, there is no challenge of emotional feelings in gambling it is not very interesting to play let alone look at, current or future technology has not Of course, it can help humans in terms of making money, for example playing gambling.

AI will be limited in its capabilities at this time or later, of course they will not be programmed to exceed the limits of human capabilities too, after all, what's the fun of using AI technology in gambling, in my opinion, it doesn't really look interesting, let alone fun, it will definitely be boring using it.

That simply means they are useless when it comes to gambling. To increase our chances of winning, we should be the ones to develop our skills because relying on AI will likely lead to long-term losses. In my opinion, AI can be used in sports betting to provide information and statistics, but that data alone is useless if we cannot analyze it in our favor.

If AI were very useful in gambling, casinos would probably be threatened by it, but honestly, I haven't heard much about that.

I also see the way AIs have to play in a casino as useless, simply, they don't have enough level to be able to do it effectively, and I don't know if they will ever beat the software System of a casino, some are talking about it. the factor of randomness and that is something that is very difficult to determine or how to beat, when there are different factors of randomness it is almost impossible for a person to determine how to win and the exact moment in a game , it may be that in a sports game if ,but a game System is Hard.

LOL, I will take that to be your assumption, because definitely it's still going to be very fun for some people, and by the way, I think the reason for this gambling AI might be that it could give a better win than a human, and if it works like that, then believe me, gambling will turn into another cool business for gamblers because they will most likely use the AI because it will give them a better result. Just imagine if you are a gambler and you have something that helps you win all the time. I know you will use it, so that's just how it will be with the AI in view. If it's a better result for gamblers, then it will be widely adopted by gamblers.


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The fact that casino will also adjust and will use the same system to make sure that update with the system will not be exploit by any means even AI system should not have that edge, a business that will surely be protected by a system that continue to give them decent profits, maybe if in anyhow, just in case AI learn things with the use of online resources, it may take time but also adjustment will happen maybe just maybe in a short span AI will manage to give some good advance information but along the way,

the system will be updated and for sure it will be on the side of the developers who provide services for the gambling owners.

Isnt contradiction the mother of evolution? Your view on AI's emotional limitations is stimulating, yet I beg to differ on a few grounds. Your stand seems rooted in a rigid conception of AI potential. What's "unachievable" now might be the norm tomorrow. Recall the era when autonomous vehicles were a fantasy? Glance at the present.

Emotion AI is in its infancy. Current models might struggle to separate real smiles from feigned ones, but they're on their way. With machine learning maturing and more diverse training data, interpreting emotional nuances gets better. I'd venture that in a half-decade, we'll witness AI rivaling human accuracy in emotional perception. So, keep your eyes peeled. AI's future may stun us all

Yeah right, right now the only good thing to use is using chatgpt to analyze and predict for sports betting besides that it's not really gambling using AI, but people think you can beat the casinos with this technology, I think it will be difficult because as said it is necessary deep and crazier development in the future, but either way it wouldn't be as much fun playing casino using AI technology.

To be honest, so far sports betting has been very helpful with chatgpt and AI technology now we can make it easier to get additional information from there to analyze matches, even so AI cannot help us choose a match and team to bet on they are only designed for now provide statistics and analysis only nothing more. but people have thought beyond that.  :D

I think that gambling services will have to come up with some solutions to weed out those players who use AI in bad faith. Because the situation may develop as well as with giveaways and multi-account farms.
When the meaning of the giveaways is already lost and the participants compete in the capacity of farms and attempts to cheat the system. It's good that they have been restricted now.
Now we need to develop mechanisms that limit AI in gambling, otherwise there will be trouble.

In every casino, possible ways of cheating will always be avoided, obviously if a player uses AI it is cheating, and that counts as something invalid, here the point of everything is to determine when it is an AI or not, because there are many players that they have an impeccable way of playing, and it may be that possible detectors take it as if it were an AI, so this is something that can be counterproductive and blame an innocent person, because considering how everything related to AI is going, it is very possible Whatever happens, of course, in this field of gambling and in any other, AI can even take jobs away from many people.

If AI is not permitted then for sure it will tag as cheating and the house will surely freeze your account once the use of AI has been discovered, I think it can't be done or I mean it can't be always be there as many factors will be considered with how gambling developers and owners will verify it. Though maybe it can be used as there's an allowable strategy that you can link yourself, it's tough if how the site will validate and how they will decide with this system.

If they approve and they will use their own system that can counter AI, then maybe it will be okay for them and they will continue and let gamblers to entertain the system.

Everything related to AI is something that is very present, everything, on TV, in articles, talks about AI, in casino games many players are excited to play and win at a casino using AI These things are what many are working on to be able to beat a casino system, this is the hope of some players, and that cannot be removed, that is why the AI at this time cannot do anything, yes Onemios to play an AI with a casino, the AI will make you lose a lot of money, and I'm sure that many have tried, maybe in a year it could be that you get better results.

AI can be in different form as what others said before. Auto-betting is an example of AI. I bet you already recognize it. Now will you still say that it was useless? It may not make us win but at least they can automate our game play to allow us to do other things for a while like eating or when you need to go to the bathroom, etc.

You even said that you can use AI in sports betting. See? Developing our skills in some gambling games is possible but for the majority of the games, no, so don't ever attempt it because you will only waste time and money. It's better to do a research about which games are skills applicable and what aren't.

They would obviously not just sit and watch their businesses go down like that only because gamblers are using a technology to beat them, if gamblers can get their hands on a system that can increase their chances of winning in gambling, then gambling business can obviously find a way to counter that with the same technology and they will obviously hire the best developers to get that done and we all know it's possible.

Casinos are businesses that run only because gamblers lose more than they win, and they in no way will let that get changed and let gamblers win more than they lose, there will be multiple preventive practices going on in the background if something like that actually happens in the future.

In the context of cryptocurrency gambling, I feel Auto-betting is a bot rather than an AI. This is the first time I reading that it is an AI. Using AI for gambling is useless unless you know how to use AI. What I trying to say here is that you have to know how to create prompts. If you have not created the right prompt you would get the right prediction from an AI. Sports betting is all about understanding a game in detail, following the tournament, creating your own database, understanding players and etc. If you have that knowledge then you are far better than a AI.

AI is a bot, and it still falls into the category of AI even though it might be a simple AI because the developer put certain codes into that bot. But AI or artificial intelligence means they or the bot can think for themselves without needing code or entering additional commands. We just need to give the command to search for something, and the AI will do it. Perhaps, our view will be different about AI because until now, no AI can really work perfectly and according to what we want. But maybe we'll find it technologically in the future, for AI is still evolving.

AI is just fancy complex algorithms. But they are still only algorithms. Meaning they could be exploited or hacked in such a way, that one could influence the outcome. Furthermore, AI does "think" for itself. So it's the one making the decision.

So the question is how easy is it to manipulate such a bet outcome if you know how the AI "thinks"?

Real horses are unpredictable, and unless someone drugs them without anybody finding out then sure, one could also influence those horses to become slower. But I would think that that is not as easy to do outside of corrupt racing horse establishments.

The fact that AI has no emotions, no insight  of those players that tend to kill a game if fielded for sports betting, won't go against the game plan can be a good and bad thing at the same time....

But we all know AI won't be using some strategy off this planet or anything...it will be applying what's already known to us  for example doubling on every lose and reset to initial bank (martingale)..But you know what they say...winners know when to stop but unfortunately this being a bot will keep playing till your bank is empty and I wouldn't sign up for such knowing it won't break its pattern(Algorithm).

To be honest the sound of AI scares me, besides if you aren't playing then we're is the fun in this...???

A bot is codded by a programmer to follow his/her commands and it will do whatever the developer coded into it. For example if a programmer need to automate a task like betting then he/she already has a working strategy that they have tested for many times, now they just create a code using a programming language, and give this bot access to their account. The bot will only bet if the requirements of the strategy are met otherwise it won't bet at all. This type of approach basically work to automate the tasks, but it could cause huge losses if anything goes wrong.

On the other hand, an AI is a type of software that works by learning a strategy and getting good at it over time. For example a programmer is well aware of a working strategy that has a win rate of 50%, and the programmer doesn't have enough time to improve their strategy, in such case a programmer makes an AI software that will test the strategy by betting many times, and with each success the AI will get a reward, and with each failure the AI will get a punishment. This type of learning is known as Reinforcement learning, and it could really be useful when AI is trained for more than 10000's of bets, and still it won't be 100% accurate because the casino can change their Algorithm anytime, and the AI has to go through the same training process once again.

The fact that an AI that only focuses on gambling will never stop gambling is a big problem in the long run for the users. It would require constant human oversight to ensure that the AI is not gambling away all his winnings. The self learning aspect of the AI would let it try out all possible strategies and only stick to the most profitable ones. But the main purpose of the AI is to make money, which can only happen if it actually games. So it would need to increase the amount of bets or number of games played to constantly increase profits. This is a huge risk as we can't control the AI anymore when it gets too large and it could lead to big losses if there is an error in the coding.

Now the topic of artificial intelligence is being popularized in cryptocurrencies. Due to the fact that cryptocurrencies are entirely on the Internet, then integration with AI is the fastest here. There are a lot of projects that raise money and create coins related to the topic of AI. And as always, many of them are scammers.
Of course, the topic attracts a lot of multiaccounts, fraudsters, and other dishonest guys. Our forum is a lot littered with those who abuse AI, who writes nonsense in posts. And of course, there are a lot of dishonest players in the monetary system of gambling.
There are still no non-repelling organs for the AI sphere. And it's time for this to appear.

Yes, in fact, an AI that can be this exemplary is not yet programmed, if they are working based on that AI to get it, but the information that can be put on it is quite large and it is difficult to reach until now, in terms of My respect, I think that AI can develop well in about 2 or 3 years, when they have optimized all AI so that it can be very different, development is something that can occur depending on what many have done to advance, AI is currently the subject for everything, everyone wants to know about AI, there are many courses that are offered Everywhere , even in Google there are courses that are free and certification in IA where many will be interested in obtaining it, what they do is not bad , for me It is a great growth option.

AI in games of chance do not have much relevance for the simple fact that they are not effective, everything is in tests, nobody likes tests because that can mean that they lose money, so it is not something healthy, I do not believe that things With the AI they happen for now, what I think is that they can happen in different ways, first the AI can do some things better, like solving simple tasks, where it is 100% effective, where research is needed, maybe, but for casino games , they still need a lot of Development and I think that it could take a couple of Years.

Well, the prospect of using AI in gambling at a time when programmers will modify it accordingly and optimize it looks pretty ridiculous.  Simply because in the end only one AI will participate in the games, and the person will take the place of an outside observer. 
As a result of AI what? 
Will he play by himself?  :)
So what kind of game is this when it simply leads to competition and competition between programmers and algorithmists. 
It seems to me that such a development of AI in general will only spoil everything in general in the gambling industry as a whole and take away such wonderful and interesting entertainment from humanity.

Improvement may take place but developers of those casino games will still have the upper hand, as they can simply adjust to whatever extent AI will learn about the programs, they will find ways to counter and not to allow AI to have the advantage, I see the point where AI will learn and make some good system but beating the entire business, or making a gambler to always win using the system,

it's something that casino owners will not allow to happen, else, we won't see casino site or business will continue to exist.

So AI can learn for itself from what they are facing that AI can know the approximate steps to be taken by its opponent. At least, that's what I thought so far, but given the current state of affairs, AI hasn't reached that level yet and still needs further development. And besides that, the developers are still trying to test the progress of each update so they can see how far the AI can work. And if that becomes a reality, the competition between AI and the casinos will get tougher, and we'll see whose AI wins more often. But the casino's AI will be the winner because the casino is the owner and doesn't want to lose much money to gamblers. Quite the contrary, casinos want to take as much money from gamblers as possible.

Gamblers are using this technology to predict the outcome. Generating an outcome on a luck game is not possible. Wherein you could ask an AI to predict the outcome of a particular sport. To an extent, a user of an AI platform needs to be knowledgeable as to how to use the AI. And should have the knowledge to the sports followed. I haven't seen anyone being able to do it except a few. A lot of AI predictions are not based on stats and analysis as the user does not have an understanding of how to ask a question to an AI. I still believe it is worth the effort to do your own analysis and whenever you are confused ask the AI.

Well, what makes you think that if an AI model can use an strategy where it can double the bet on a loss and reset it on a win it cannot have a specific target for when to stop? I mean it's an AI, they are intelligence models, you can easily make them understand when they should stop using words and specifying the target that you have in mind. There will be one difference though, it won't be able to stop before that target but still being profitable.

For example, we as humans might have a specific target in our mind that we say we will stop at if we are profitable, but if we start losing after getting some wins before reaching that target, but we haven't lost all our profits, we might decide to simply cut it off and stop right there, an AI model won't be able to do that.

I believe that someday a successful (profitable) AI made for gambling will be created. However, it won't last long. For sure gambling platforms will ban them as soon as they can. This could be one of the reasons for the casino to hold the players' fund. Not sure yet how can it be proven, but I think we'll come to that.

If it become popular, expect the end of it. On the other hand,, if only a few people are aware of its existence, they can leverage it to generate profits from gambling.

It's not that simple.
There are a lot of people on the forum who dishonestly use ChatGPT in order to automatically write posts here on the forum. And there is still no absolute way to find out whether the author is a person or a bot. It would be fine if there was a service with recognition, but they are not all accurate. Our forum is a serious place, and there is money here, which means it should be protected, but the problem with bots has not yet been solved. This means that casinos can hardly distinguish at the moment between people who are dishonest  in gambling on casino sites.

What happened is that when you talk and have to confront things with the AI, we can influence many things, each programmer can integrate many things into the AI, what happens is that we can intuit that the algorithms are necessarily good and that they can be very functional and efficient, but so far the AI can give errors, of course, for me it is still in a Beta stage, it can give erroneous results, but nevertheless we have to take into account that this is advancing a lot and the AI learns in a very fast and dizzying way.

All the developments in AI can be integrated into a single thing, then with the other developments I think that the AI will be getting better, so when we think that the AI will be everything in the future, well we have to start thinking that if it can being that way and in casino games can help a lot to win.

We can always drive to the principle that house always have the edge against the gamblers, if both side will utilize the use of AI then surely it's the house will win in the long run, might possible that a big whales will invest to maximize the use of the system, but house will counter that and all those small-time gamblers will be affected of such adjustments.

Casino owners will find ways to continue business and not to be something like a cash atm of every gambler who will use AI
to take that edge and keep withdrawing from the house.

Maybe someday AI are one of the best buddy of every gambler in the world of gambling. But for me The casino owner will allow AI only for betting Not for everything because we are all know the  capability of an Ai once they the programmer already know how to control the online casino outcome then that is the advantages of an AI but for the casino owner will don't let that happen because it will make the casino down.

And it looks like the house still has a chance of winning even if gamblers use AI to gamble. The house will also use AI, but it may be different from what gamblers use. Whatever it is, the casino will maintain its business and tighten its security or system so that gamblers cannot win unless they have high luck.

This is all the more interesting because later on, each developer working for gamblers and casinos will issue updates that they can claim will give a win. Casinos will also claim that system updates have strengthened their system so they can keep their business well.

This is to show the level of how selfish we are that we will want an artificial intelligence device or system to help us in doing the task we are meant to carry out on our own, have we also consider of we are one of the operators of this gambling platforms, how are we going to feel or react towards a system that works against us from making profits, if gamblers could reason like this they wouldn't have much reason to insist onnthe ise of AI on areas not necessarily needed while gambling.


What the AI present to them isn't the accurate result of the real situation involved, they also brought out their own idea and opinion on the subject matter asked for, it's earlier the better that we realized what is ahead of us than depending on AI in making decisions for us.

Casinos are out for business and would never allow all gamblers to win the house edge using AI. The moment the casino noticed this,they will also get an AI that will counter the gamblers game to make sure that they still stay profitable as usual. It is human that generates AI,so it will also be easy for casinos to get their own AI which will favor the house edge. A gambler can never be smarter than the casino,that is why we find it difficult to have a 5 straight wins. Casinos are into business and will never allow a gambler to kick them out of business.

The thing is that, despite all the hype that has surrounded the development of AI it has not still been proven its success in gambling and how possible have their AI involvement been able to aid players' success in games.

There is no doubt the truth that casinos are out for business so, at that, there will have a system in place that will help them to overcome such attacks as AI involvement.

One reason why don't really give much attention to hype, stuffs are always in their fake version when their hype is on, that is, everything, or almost everything is always not as it seems or as it is said to be, it is when the hype dies down that we get to now what exactly is in the hood..

You are about casinos being out here for business, it is the same thing I've always said that Ai can not take online gambling casinos out of business, there is always room left for improvements and advancement, if at any point in time, casinos discover they could unjustly lose money in a game due to Ai participation in the game, they will sure know the right thing to do to make sure the game remain fair to them and to the players.

Many gamblers are now relying on AIs because of the hype but there are still no consistent winning testimonies that exist regarding their experiences. AIs have an edge when it comes to advanced technology services but they can't still surpass human intelligence.
However, we can't disregard the fact that if they would be more developed in the future, they could still be used successfully and effectively in gambling but in case that happens, I'm sure that casinos won't allow it and they will put restrictions on any proven gambling activities involving AIs for they will not allow anything that will beat the house edge.

If profitable gambling is eventually created, many casinos will end up losing big and this is going to make casinos to started blocking and locking accounts. This is going to make a lot of people to make money from gambling but it wouldn't last.

Artificial intelligence is trending and might get to a time where casinos will need to upgrade there system or else they are going to end up in big loses because programers will start creating bots that can over rule the system and make profits for the user.

As we are seeing the AI trend, it might get to a time when artificial intelligence will become sophisticated doing to complicated task that will surprise casinos, allowing gamblers to make crazy profits from gambling.

You've put forward a critical point: "No consistent winning testimonies with AI exist in gambling." Indeed, current testimonies are inconsistent and few... But isn't this the case with most technologies at their nascent stage? AI's edge isn't just about advanced technology services. It's about machine learning, the ability to evolve and adapt, and thus to potentially outsmart human intelligence over time. As you rightly noted, should AI systems become more developed, they could be effectively used in gambling. However, "casinos won't allow anything that will beat the house edge," you say. This is probably true. Yet, consider the growing online gambling market. There, the AI question will be much more challenging. Regulations, while necessary, will be hard to enforce in a vast and anonymous online world.

Yes, in fact, when things start to improve, I think that the AI bots can be further optimized, I believe that the vision for an AI in the future will be indisputable, there is no doubt that the bots in the future will also They will generate all human movement, because as you say, trajectories in a straight line can be corrected so that it is or what they think is a hyuman, all those interferences that make a robot have, will be corrected without a doubt, the systems of casinos will have multiple AI detectors.

When they realize that you are no longer an AI and you start to win thinking you are a human, then how can a casino detect you? Because there is no way, and it will be so, the AI robots will act as if they were a human integrated into them, this can be a very serious problem in casinos.


We, as good players, have to take into consideration that things when it comes to AI are quite ambiguous, some say that they do well with AI, others say no, I am one of those who think that when playing using AI what is going to do or achieve is that the money goes completely, there is no way that an AI can decipher the casino systems and can make them win.

Maybe in the future an AI can be competitive to decipher casino systems, but for now I doubt it, it's something extreme to think that a casino can do things with AI so that players lose, players lose on their own, because of their mistakes, emotions and other things.

One user talked about this, and he said that if there is any AI built to cheat the system, then the casinos will also have their own AI to fight against the ones used by gamblers. It would be casino AI against gambler AI. Lol, I don't even see any of this happening, although sometimes what we think is impossible can still turn out to be possible. But if there is any possibility that there can be a gambling AI that usually makes more wins than humans do, then if the casino takes note of it, what they will do is just ban the use of AI in casinos because it violates betting rules.


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Casino owners and developers also read and search online, right? So, the development of AI if being used against them, they are not going to be left behind and allow gamblers to just take advantage and sucked their money. They will use their money to develop protections that will prevent them from being taking advantage.

It's a game of system, and for sure casino owners will still make something good from the business. They've got the money to use
to make sure that they will be protected.

And that means there will be competition between the AI of casinos and gamblers using it, so we will see which AI will win. But it looks like the AI of the casino will win because the casino will try to maintain its business well and anticipate losses. Again, the casino owns the business while the gambler is the player gambling in the casino business. And even if there are players who win, the winnings will not be as big as what the casino will get. It will become even more interesting when such an AI is launched and used by both casinos and players. Perhaps, in a few years, something big will happen in artificial intelligence.

That is a logical conclusion surely, the casino AI will win the battle since there is a house edge factor by their side. I doubt anyone can be smart enough to use AI for beating the house edge. Casino games have some variables that show when and how much players can win. These seeds are created in the perfect math formulas and no matter which tool the players use it is impossible to beat the house edge in the long run. Just my 2 cents.

I also think about what you said because casinos don't want their business to lose because of the wins of players who use AI. A casino can do a lot to keep winning, and we know that the casino will win. But maybe some gamblers have successfully used AI to beat the house edge but not many. But it's still the casino that will win because many gamblers will experience defeat in the long run.