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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.

You could see he is not mad but probably mentally challenged which can come and go like temporary. There are people who are like that mentally that you only notice them when that moment come to them.

There is a different analysis to this story. He might be gambling before that challenge came to him which can explain why he still retain the ability to gamble and visit the gambling shop. Or he is not mentally challenged in the real sense because someone in such condition may not have the cognition to know how to gamble.


If from what the story is that he walks into a gambling shop and does what others do in peace and leaves, I don't think there is a reason to deny him freedom of association or any other if he is of gambling age. In fact he may not be that challenged mentally not to know what he is doing.

I have not seen this in a any terms of service of a casino or other gambling site like bookies. If it is not there, that means it is allowed. But some people will not feel comfortable and will not allow him to gamble. There are situations that people around a mentally unstable person will interact with him and no problem, but there are situations that you can not interact with with such a person.

Not everyone who is well-dressed is mentally stable. Some addicts are mentally unstable, without noticing it, despite being well-kept and feeling in control of their actions. The man in your story is not causing any trouble to anybody in the gambling house, he is only not well dressed. Which is not anybody's business, provided that the gambling attendant is comfortable with him, no problem. Secondly, he's not begging for money or aggressively disturbing his parents for gambling funds, like many other gambling addicts who suffer mental disorders do to their loved ones. He's doing his job and maybe may have been conditioned the way he looks due to the kind of work he does. Men are men, and their personalities should be respected, so far he respects himself and the people around him. Don't know how people around your vicinity judge people who are mentally ill, only through their looks? dressing, hairstyle, shoes, etc.

The world gets funny each day, does it mean that if a well-dressed person putting on a Rolex and nice shoes walks into the gambling house and starts to destroy things or yell at the gambling attendant, he'll be tagged drunk or normal because he's putting on some expensive perfumes. However, I understand your point, gambling can affect them more and they'll find it difficult to heal. But with the behavior of the man, as you illustrated, he shouldn't be barred from using the gambling house. He is like any other gambler, who gambles with their hard-earned money. If he wins a jackpot the casino betting platform will pay him big, not minding whether he's well dressed or not. I was having a conversation with a friend yesterday on a similar matter, how society neglects such people, which may lead them to gambling as a form of fun. Society cares about well-dressed people alone, whether mentally ill or not.  ;D

If the person is mentally unstable, it would be better for officers or employees to refuse the person to enter and gamble at the casino. But seeing what had happened, it seemed that the person had no intention other than just gambling like other people, so the officers just let him do it. But if the person started acting out of bounds, the officers would take the person into custody and tell him to leave and never enter the casino again.

It may be a moral obligation to prohibit someone who wants to gamble but has a mental disorder. The officer in one place doesn't want any commotion at his place of work so he will supervise someone who is mentally disturbed so that they don't make a commotion.

Who can decide which man(or woman) is mentally unstable and which one is mentally stable? I guess that if a man(or woman) has a socially unacceptable behavior, he(or she) can be considered mentally ill.
The casino employees aren't licensed psychic doctors, so they can't decide who is mentally sick and who is OK. I'm sure that if a guy starts acting weird, they will kick him out of the casino.
The man is your story acted completely normal(even though he probably looked like a homeless person). He might be mentally OK. Who are you to judge people based on their clothes and physical appearance. Many people don't care about their looks, but they are completely normal.

Asking the question if mentality unstable people should be allowed to gamble has different dimensions, do you mean if the government should make a law that prevents mentality unstable people from gambling or you mean that the gambling attendant should stop the mentality unstable man from gambling? In both cases it will not actually be easy especially if the mentality sick man really wants to gamble. I will try to explain the two scenarios below and see how we will examine the scenarios and make proper decisions on the topic posted.

Let's say the government enacts a law that prevents mentality sick people from gambling and yet the mentality sick person want to gamble. If they insist and gamble will the gambling attendant be arrested or the mentality sick person. If the casino attendant refuses to grant him access to gamble, he might decide to cause alot of trouble in the shop and its neighbourhood. And if the government arrest such a mentality sick person, how will they arraign him?

In my country, the only legal restrictions placed on gambling is with regards to age otherwise almost every one is given the liberty to gamble provided they meet the agre requirements, even on most gambling sites and gambling houses, their restrictions are usually based on age and almost never with appearance.

Sometimes some persons in their appearance may look like they are mentality challenged until you have a conversation with them then you will understand better what their situation or condition is, so I think we shouldn't assume someone is mentally challenged except proven otherwise, physical appearance cannot be a complete judgment for their personalities will turn out to be, some times it could be they have some challenges with their appearance but in a case where it's clear that such person is mentally challenged then I don't think such person should be allowed to gamble because they will most often not be in the right frame of mind to make good decisions.

It is not only about the gambling agent but also about the other people that are gambling there. There is no problem if other people are not complaining about him. Not to be well dressed in public can make some people to know that he is mentally unstable and not like to go to the gambling place because of that but they will complain before not going. I think it is a betting agent place and it will not take more than 2 minutes that the mentally unstable person will spend to place bets and that gives him advantage.

He has no job. People are using his condition to give him money.

He’s also a customer just like you, he derives the same fun and joy as you when he’s gambling, he’ll be paid the same way you will if he should win his bet, he also has the money to bet and also it will be difficult for a business to chase off their customers just because others are more dressed than him.

I actually do not see any reason why he should be stopped, if he turns out to be one that is violent after kissing a bet then the idea of stopping him could be very good but in a case where he doesn’t have any effect when he losses I don’t think he should be stopped.

Tbvh, we have people that are might be more unstable than that filthy dressed man that are also actively gambling if casino’s should start filtering them that means they would also be banned from gambling.

I have read the TOS of many gambling companies and I did not see this as part of it. I know about the age limitations as well as the warning for responsible gambling... these are the general rules and none of them actually cover the mental health of the gambler.

Besides, it will be difficult to deny someone who walks into a casino, violated no rule and is willing to play and get paid if need be. Anyone under this state of health should not be limited access to the casino and it will be totally unfair to judge base on dressing.

If someone who is mentally unstable still comes to gambling to deposit money with the bookie why not, isn't that also a benefit for the casino to increase their income, it doesn't matter about mentally unstable people or people who are seriously addicted as long as they still have money and bringing money to the casino, all of which I think upholds freedom and there are no restrictions on that as long as they play quietly and don't disturb other players.

I just caught the behavior of a person like that, it seems that the man is addicted to gambling so that even though he is mentally unstable, he still makes money and spends his money on gambling, that's why I'm not sure the officers at physical casinos forbid that anyone seems to be free to gamble and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that our view of the man might be too pitiful whereas they casino owners don't care about that.  ;D

Well, it depends on the 2 perspectives that will determine if an unstable person could be doing gambling or not. One side is yes, they should not be allowed to play gambling as the word implies "unstable," meaning they are not in the right mind and right state to play gambling as they can't think straight, they could waste too much money, they cannot be controlled by anyone, and they could cause a ruckus in a casino or something, but this perspective is from someone in society.

But from the perspective of a casino owner, of course, business is business no matter what the state of a person or who he is. As long as he has money to play in a casino and could bring continuous profit for the owner, then it is also good no matter what. But in general, we know that we all have different perspectives or opinions on this, so no matter what answer we give, anyone could gamble, as each person has their own will and own rights.

I think the logical answer to that is "No.". I mean what if their disease gets worse just because of gambling more? In most cases physical casinos would try to avoid that happening so if ever they see someone who is acting like they have a behavioral problem, they will take them out of the building.

In your example though, the man never did anything wrong, and how are we going to prove that he is mentally unstable if he had done nothing yet? I've never seen a man go wild in a physical casino because of a mental problem but I've seen clips on social media and I think the most popular one was the man who got naked and climbed one table dancing on it. It is proof that we cannot judge anyone just based on their looks, what if they are really normal and dislike posing as a rich man wearing good clothes before they gambler?
There are other people who dress clean and yet on the inside they have more problems than those people living in the streets.

Op I presume that man is rather not mentally unstable in the real sense of the word but could be he's gone through a lot which has made him a depressed thereby living a certain kind of life out of the normal.

Mentally deranged or unstable persons are well known for their violent behaviors of causing harm to others, they don't work for money neither have a sense to gamble for money but this man from the op does the opposite which makes me count him as not mentally unstable but as someone suffering from a depressive condition from life's challenges that had overwhelmed him making him to care less of himself

  Well, it's not just about the moral, ethical or legal application to the matter but it's whether or not people will be comfortable and relaxed to gamble together with mentally deranged person(s) as they would with sane persons like them.

This is a very funny topic, gambling on it's own can make someone to become mentally ill or unstable, and you are asking if someone who is mentally unstable can be allowed to gamble? Thanks for making me laugh on Christmas day, I really needed that, the answer is no, it's a very bad idea because I believe it will just worsen the case of such person.

My question for you OP is how you know he is mentally unsound, there are many reasons why someones look will be like that of their with mental issues, and describing that he wore a dirty dress and also his hairs sounds like someone who is very poor or have mental illness but still it doesn't mean he is.

Not even the attendant knows this, so to me he is not an example of a mentally ill person, he is free to gamble anytime he want, someone with mental issue will only have to visit once and he will be banned from the casino because it doesn't take too long to know that someone has mental issues.

Why do I care in the first place? he has the money and the knowledge about what he was doing so who are we to ask or question his intention or what his right or and the other costumers ?
for me as long as he did not steal for money there is nothing to be care for , because gambling is a business like restaurant that they will serve whatever costumer they have as long as they can pay(of course depending in what kind of restaurant because others has a dress code or attire) so why not the gambling houses need to implement something?

      -  I think that even if the condition of a gambler is the same, we should not judge only based on the physical condition. And from what I saw based on your story, you judged that. Because when you first asked, you were told that the one you say is unstable is a regular customer.

How did you say unstable? Is it because of his bad condition physically? In the first place, no one is physically harmed every time they go there, right? So I think you should check yourself first before thinking bad things about other people. This is just what I thought, because what I saw in you is that I think you are also wrong in my opinion.

I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble. Gambling is open to everyone, even those facing mental health challenges. As long as they can place bets and participate in the games, they should be able to enjoy gambling like anyone else. It would be unfair to deny them this right just because of their mental health. I appreciate that the attendant in your post was kind to all customers, regardless of their situation. Sadly, in my local area, I've witnessed people treating mentally unstable individuals poorly, refusing to sell to them even if they have money. They seem repulsed when these individuals come near them. I don't understand why mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to gamble.

I assume that some physical signs can show that someone is not mentally stable. And I pointed to the fact that can such a person be barred from gambling based on some of these clear physical signs and not a psychiatric check.

I don't think it is all mentally unstable people that are violent. I also feel that the ability to work and gamble is not a yardstick to conclude that somebody is sound. Many emotionally unbalanced people still work and are not violent.   

That's discrimination the attendant already said that he never misbehaved or caused any trouble so he has the privilege to play unless that physical casino has a rule barring people with unusual behavior from staying on their premises but then again they have to check the background and examine the person because looks can be deceiving.
When it comes online, there's nothing in their terms that will tell gamblers to submit their mental or health condition, it's up to gamblers to examine themselves if they are fit to play online, when it comes to gambling it's always been played at your own risk.
Yes, gambling is a great source of entertainment but it can also become a source of mental anguish, so examine yourself if you can take all the risk in gambling.

This has become a habit that the gambler you are talking about probably did before he experienced problems with himself. Gambling addiction may be an unresolved problem for him that makes him always gamble when he has money. and that's what he remembers when in the past he was a heavy gambler.
There is nothing wrong as long as the offline casino provider does not feel disturbed by its existence, which some people may consider unfit to go to the casino. but if he continues to gamble with his money and not the proceeds of crime. it will not cause problems for him and the casino providers.

The question you have to asked yourself is are you sure if that person is not motor mechanic?
Well sincerely speaking there has been lots of confusion within my area for a motor mechanic dressing like a mad man or someone who is mentally unstable. Yes I have one mistaken a motor mechanic to a mad man in the local betting shop, how? just as you explained he puts on dirty clothes looks so unkept and with his oily face stained with grease and so other but he calmly walking inside and places his bet even as that he was holding something on his hand eating very wrongly after he places his bet, so what i did was to monitor him till he walked away, and guess what?
When i followed him outside he opens his car a drove away..
So in my opinion you might classify a motor mechanic as a mad man or a mentally disorganized individuals.

That has been my idea. If he is not disturbing and goes in then comes out in peace then everything is fine. He probably have been gambling there or somewhere that he kept doing it because he understands what he is doing by himself with experience. There are people like that in the neighbourhood who are drug addicts and also gamblers who have been knocked off in their brain sort off and they don't communicate coherently yet they bet because they are already used to it and they are also keeping their friends few times even though those friends now stay at length.

Not all mentally unstable people are violent, some are so gentle and they have no sense of their environment, they are trapped in an illusion, and no matter what you say to them they will never get violent, but where I am confused is how such people will need money.

I doubt they will feel the need to take risks, there is one I know here, who knows the importance of money, but he prefers to ask people for money, the sense of hustling is no more in his mind, and even no one will want to hire such people.

I think the chances of mentality unstable people going into gambling is very limited, I have never seen such people in a online casinos, if they have families they are always with them for montiroing, such people can't be left alone most times as they can do something stupid.

Am not sure there's any legal law that forbids them from having the same benefits of gambling, but the moment a physically or mentally challenged person decided on making gambling, then i think he's stable already mentally because there's no how a mentally pierced person can identify the needs to gamble and do so for the first time when he's unstable mentally, except for the physically challenged ones, we can also consider this not being exempted on the online casino gambling, a mental instable person cannot gamble online even though everyone has the liberty and access of using them, you can't gamble without having money as well.

Well, if that person does not behave violently or some sort of being our of control making scene, I don't think there would be a problem with that. Also, as long as the family allows him to do so, like if there are no complaints coming from the family then I guess there's nothing unethical or the casino has legal obligations for such person.
I've seen a few people who looks like they are mentally ill because of how they behave and how they look, but to be fair with them, they have not caused any trouble not even once. They just gamble win or lose then they walk away quietly. I think they really don't have troubles mentally, they just behave and think differently.

So you literally stalked this unknown man, observed every of his steps and had a close eye on his activities, judged his coordinative ability and condition, listened to how loud or quiet he was and came to the concusion that everything is fine after inquiring of that reception lady what's going on? She really gave you that private information the same way you presented us with?

What I don't understand is at what point did you find out that person is mentally unstable? And do you play the stalking version of Sherlock Holmes more often in other sceneries? Do you consider stalking a gambler mentally stable?

I really had to read your post three times to figure out what is going on here. What would you suggest if we leave aside most of the nonsense and deal with the question whether mentally unstable people should be allowed to gamble? Everyone brings an attestation from a doctor? Who decides whether someone is mentally unstable? You, with your outstandingly investigative and in the academic world widely approved Sherlock Holmes approach?

Excuse me, but your post raises a lot of questions, lol! :D

The shop can allow everyone who wanted to gamble and it is their rights to let them bet and a rights also of those mentally unstable people.

They have money, then know whom/which to bet , they are not hurting anyone so let them bet, if I am to answer this? i will not give any arguing in their rights .
let them gamble guys .

Depends, how unstable are we talking about? If they're just raging so much but they're not damaging the casino property or themselves, I think they can still play but if they're not and they have the tendency to hurt others then it's probably the time that you're not allowing them to play, it's unlikely that you can do a wellness check in online gambling so they're probably flocking there and making the casinos a lot of money because they're not meant for restraining themselves on how much they want to spend on gambling.

According to the attendant, if you refer to this as a regular customer, that means that what you say "mentally unstable" is no longer appropriate, as if he plays normally and still knows what he is doing, because he can still gamble well.

As long as it's normal to play gambling, there's no problem there; maybe you just said that it's because of his physical condition, appearance, and clothes. I don't think it's right.

and in the first place, how can you say that such person is mentally unstable? maybe, it is just the way he is. as long as he is not causing any trouble to anyone, i guess, there's no reason to stop him from enjoying his game. this particular case is very subjective, unless, you really know that person about his mental history and all. otherwise, leave him to what he wants. there's no law stating that mentally unstable or whatever a person is, can't enjoy his life via gambling.

I didn't see any where it was written on your comments that you comfirm if he was mentally unstable, the attendants only assume base on his dressing and it's really bad of you guys to assumed that a person is a mad person or mentally by the way they look and dress. You can see a person looking unhygienic and unkept and that's could be a s a result of the job they do, as you as said he does a manual job during the days and it might be one of the reason why he is looking like that in appearance.

If a mentally deranged and unstable person is gambling, it's his choice because I don't think he was force, wasn't told to come and gamble by force, if he wanted to buy something to eat, I think any person can sell it to him don't have to be questioned, the same apply to gambling and gambling is a service that can be render to any person who need one.

However, for the humanity sake. If I know that the person is mentally unstable, I will avoid giving rendering service to him because I'm not sure any person who isn't in his right senses will gamble an win, they can be lucky to win but the chance of winning will be small compared to a person that is mentally okay, even a person that is stable hardly win talk more of a person that is having sparks on their head.

No, you can " never judge the book by its cover".. That's the Dhar Mann vibes. But seriously, as long as the person is behaving, he should be allowed to gamble, it's entertainment after all, right? so everyone deserves to be entertain as long as he can pay the play.

Gambling is for everyone. I believe if that person life is not being affected badly then I don’t find the need to ban them on gambling which probably gave them entertainment despite they have some mental problem.

In your example, the subject is a regular which means he is doing it for a long time without any problem. The situation might be worst if you stop them playing which they regularly do since they are mentally unstable.

More importantly on this topic. If mentally unstable still can enjoy the game then they should be allowed to play or else they will be discriminated.

Right, I think it goes back to the casinos themselves about whether they allow people like that or especially those who look alarming and a little suspicious to get involved in gambling or not, if there is absolutely no regulation then obviously like you said it means it is allowed. But sometimes even if there is no such regulation sometimes some officers are very likely to prohibit it and drive it out, although sometimes we can't judge a person in terms of his appearance but sometimes it doesn't hurt to be suspicious.

Because on the other hand I'm sure the officers' mind is on the comfort of all the patrons there, which is why I think it's possible that some officers will kick him out even though there is basically no rule against it because it's very likely that there will be chaos committed by that person if he really has a mental disorder and obviously it will disturb most of the patrons who are there.

It's simple, even someone with a good mentality can become ugly just because of gambling, let alone someone with a bad mentality.

I quite understand people like that, someone who has a mental disorder tends to be a little stubborn, they will be determined to enter the casino even though it has been forbidden.
And it would be better if casino officials prevented the person from coming, considering that the person has a mental disorder and financial limitations, because instead of the person wasting their money on gambling, it would be better if the person used the money for more useful things, such as for buy decent clothes and food.

Problem is knowing if you are really mentally stable. Not because you function on a normal basis would already classify you as mentally stable; being one means you are confident with controlling your own emotions, and other aspects of you. If OP refers to people who are diagnosed with mental health conditions and disorders, then that's actually a no. They might be able to divert their attention but they are more prone with addiction on the same instance. But on our ends even if we are often encountering emotional distress, we can still gamble; managing your betting habits will be another story.
As kong as he thinks rationally, then it would be fine 'coz he will still be aware of what is right and what is wrong or when to stop and continue. With being prone to addiction, it depends on your mindset as a gambler. If you are taking too much risk on a daily basis, then you should avoid this industry.  Entertainment is far different from vices and that is the bottomline between these two.
What about the consequences of losing? Gambling is not only for entertainment 'coz if that's so there are for sure other outlets for enjoyment such as console games which are alike with it and not involving real money which could even yield to debt if they'd be lacking sense of control on their losses.

Judging from looks, the guy may seem to be shabby but on the side, he is very normal but doesn't know how to dress to look good. I have seen people like that most times in some local bet shops. Some of them just came from their place of work. Which may be some kind of dirty manual jobs. So instead of going home and changing up, which would take them some time. They rather enter the local bet shop bet their game and leave.

There is this saying "Don't judge a book by its cover".

However, in my opinion, mentally unstable persons should not be allowed to gamble. Since they are mentally drained they can never control their emotions when they win or lose. They may cause havoc in the local bet shop.

You have got your point and if that person is not doing any wrong in terms of the gambling user's and agreement, he should be able to continue enjoying the game, in the sense of unstable mentally, that's another thing since it's only the person itself who justify things in the manner that he's dealing with his gambling activities, and same with your argument, it can be a discrimination if the person is not doing any bad things that may affect other people or the house itself.

It's strange why this man often gambles and often goes to gambling houses even though his mental state is not good. Even if I was there, I might not be able to stop him because who knows, he might already be addicted to gambling, so no one can stop him, not even an officer at the gambling house. don't forbid him, after all what right do we have to forbid him from wanting to gamble, isn't he gambling using his own money, not our money, I think if we forbid him it will invade his privacy, it's better to just let him gamble and maybe advise him a little, I think that's better

Perhaps his condition would have worsened if he had been prevented from practicing his hobby of gambling. The shop owner told you that he did not do anything wrong in the shop and that he does manual labor to earn money, which he uses to play games. I do not see anything wrong with this, nor any reason to pass a law that prevents him and others like him from gambling, especially since they do not harm anyone, not even themselves.
Quite the opposite, there are people of sound mind who commit atrocities because of their love of gambling and their addiction to it.

The problem is, they do not care about morals. They do not care about who is playing. If you have money, you are allowed to play there. If you do not have money, you are likely to be kicked out. There are rules about under age people. But, I am not sure if there are any rules about mentally unstable people. Even if they had the rules, they simply decided not to follow the rules. If someone complaints about it, they may take care of it. Otherwise, they will continue allow people like that to play on their house. The only way to stop them is take legal action. They will be forced to stop allowing him. All the houses want your money. They are already used to seeing how people lose their everything. So, they don't feel the pain anymore. The skin get thicker everytime they see new people losing their everything.

Not everyone who wear suits are perfectly alright or rich as they pretend to be so the same should be applied for the exact opposite too, we should not judge someone's mental health ability just because the clothes were dirty, well I understand why you thought like that but this 2020 era has been different and people do uncommon things.


This is more complicated than it sounds and it depends on the jurisdiction of the casino, if its a regulated casino then they will more likely not let them bet if the person is not capable of making their decisions straight and its protected under promoting responsible gambling and duty of care but if the person is capable of understanding what is happening and he got money to bet then banning the person will become discrimination and lead to a different issue.

With this you remembered to me some really strange persons which were not that mentally unstable but they were working in construction sites and as soon as they finished they come completely in dust and dirty clothes to place their bets in the lotto club.At that time I used to go every weekend in that lotto club and although they were not unstable mentally at all,they were "fighting" with each other in a funny situation where Inter Milan lost and every body were watching the game on TV,the sons told to their father which were a fan of Inter that you will never again watch Inter on TV  ;D.

I think everyone should be given the chance to gamble as long as they want it.

Privacy ought to be maintain and we should be very busy and strict in whatever things we do in the system. Gamble is not my thing right from the early previous years, I was in gambling and couldn't connect any solid modes othe than sticking and doing what we call copy gambling, which I never was granted fulltime permission from my top colleagues that knows how the system operates. We learn to mind our business in this modern generation and if we witnessed what we don't like, we better inform the user ontime or better tolerate their actions and fall back to another transmissions.

You shouldn't conclude yet that the man is mentally unstable. Just as you said, the physical bet shop attendant said the gambler has never misbehaved before, and the gambler is into manual jobs, so maybe he just left the work place and hasn't gotten home to clean himself yet. After closing from work, he might just decide to gamble before going home to clean himself. So just because you see someone dirty entering a physical bet shop doesn't mean the person is not mentally stable. And you ask the shop attendant, and she says the gambler hasn't behaved abnormally before, so I guess the person might be fine.

I don't think mentally unstable people are supposed to be allowed to gamble, it doesn't really make any sense to me. If you are a betting shop attendant and you see anyone who you think or you are sure is mentally unstable trying to gamble, then you should stop the person from gambling and not allow them to place their bet at your shop.

It maybe can cause a discrimination for a person just want to gamble and if the person pointed out to be unstable didn't bother anyone then everything is fine there.

I guess the owner will not disallow them to gamble since they know everything is fine with the person and it can generate them some profit if that person would lose his money if he decide to gamble on his casino. People need to focus on theirselves and they should not judge the person base on his look if this is the problem with those people.

And they should let the man enjoy since who knows that gambling is just his escape route from his stress and they can feel fine every time these people gamble.

How do you know that a person is mentally unstable? Does he not behave normally in real life?

I don't think anyone who is mentally ill, can become so sophisticated that he goes to the casino and bet/gambles in a gentlemen's way and also wins money from gambling. Even the most sensible persons find it difficult to win from gambling and he being retarted mentally.

Anyways, if a person is unstable, sometimes the casino do not know this fact and they may allow him thinking he is fit. Just as in this case, the way he gambles does not show that he is mentally ill. If such a person misbehaves or does strange things in the casino, then they may disallow his visit to the casinos.

Casinos don't decide who is mentally unstable. That diagnosis happens by medical professionals. Even though mentally unstable is not a name of diagnosis, but a wide spectrum of disorders in layman terms.

And they can (depending where you live) appoint a guardian of interests, that controls patient's (or is ward or right word for it?) monthly / weekly / daily / allowance that they  can use how they please. Even to gambling. Money for rent, food, electricy bills however are the responsibilities of the apponted guardian.

But one could ask if someone who is just intoxicated enough could be responsible for their choices betting everything while drunk. Should they be protected from themselves as well? As i've seen "mentally unstable" people being more responsible with money.

Here in my place, I actually haven't heard someone being barred from gambling after physically observed that they were mentally unstable. The first responders to this kind of situation is of course family members if they found out something unusual then maybe they have to right to do so.

It depends on the laws of that region, doesn't it?
A mentally unstable person is still a person, so that means he has rights and I don't see any laws that deprived such a person from gambling. 

Also, there are different forms of mental disorders. A person may appear clean and presentable but they're mentally unstable and very violent, others can look dirty and not be violent. I don't think the shop doesn't have a right to deny anybody that's above the gambling age from placing a bet, except in cases where the person has a restricting order or something.

Sadly mental illnesses/unstableness require a medical certificate instead. There are illnesses that can be visible physically, but mentally unstable isn't one or is considered as invisible. If casinos were to require every user of theirs to submit a certificate to prove their mental stability, users would just stop since, well, getting one isn't exactly free in the first place.

Now I wouldn't place my bets on mentally unstable people reporting that they're, well, unstable. Even asking their family for help might not help since again, it costs money to get a certificate. Morally I'd say guards should know when to stop a person from gambling, especially if they are well known to have issues but legally speaking I don't think they're allowed? I mean that's not their job scope. Might even get fined since they're cutting off business for casinos.

I don't know much about that because it would depend on the policy of the casino to prohibit or allow someone with an unstable mentality to gamble. Maybe as long as he doesn't behave badly or act rudely in his gambling house, his employees will allow him to gamble. It's possible that the person enjoyed the time he was gambling, so he didn't do anything bad while gambling. If he is a regular customer at the casino, that means that person has been coming to the casino for a long time and has never behaved badly or acted rudely towards anyone who gambles at the casino. But it will depend on each casino because if it is a popular casino, the staff may not allow someone in shabby clothes to enter the casino. After all, all the customers are dressed neatly.

That's right, he could be addicted to gambling, so someone who is addicted to gambling could have his mental condition affected or unstable, and he could behave unnaturally by carrying out activities that are considered unreasonable, such as what he does. OP said above. Of course, if someone is addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to stop even with good advice, because their common sense is no longer able to think properly that this behavior is wrong and could possibly have fatal consequences for themselves.
Yes, that's right, it's a good idea for us to just keep quiet and let him determine his own path in life, the good and the bad will be for him to bear, because if we continue to stop him then there is a possibility that he won't accept it and will become angry with us and that is very risky for ourselves.

There is no such legal law to bar or ban mentally unstable people from gambling, atleast, none of such I know of, though I am not working in the government, and neither do I have any relative of mine working In the government as well.

But one thing I do know is that, mentally unstable people should be allowed to enjoy as much freedom as normal human beings, as far as they are not violent but join normal human beings to maintain law and order in the society always.

Over here in nigeria and in my area, I've seen multiple times when a mentally ill person will walk into a physical gambling or betting shop, ask that a bet be placed for him, after the bet is placed, he will pay and then leave the scene.
What I did have to say on my own is that, I do see why they should be barred or banned from participating in gambling activities, as long as they are not causing any harm, or stealing the money which they use for their betting activities.

When a person is mentally disturbed, it is not only thoughts that can change, but his behavior also changes, which makes him an unkempt person.

And people who are addicted to gambling, most of them are only disturbed in their thoughts and behavior, where they may have difficulty concentrating and become very passive and impulsive. Meanwhile, in terms of appearance, they look fine.

And if I were a casino owner, I would forbid people who have mental disorders and are not well looked after from visiting my casino, who even though their behavior is not disturbing, but in appearance of course the person is very disturbing, which might make a little people are disgusted by his presence. And to keep regular customers who visit my casino, I cannot invite just anyone to visit and gamble at my place.

I understand internet gambling's complexities and can say that gambling addiction and mental instability are different. They must be distinguished. This dishevelled man behaved well; his attire and appearance dont imply mental instability. Surface looks cant tell us everything.

Restricting autonomy based on mental health is unethical. Legally, banning someone from gambling could be discriminatory without convincing evidence of incompetence. I believe it's more about promoting responsible gambling. The attendant's comfort shows his behaviour isnt disruptive. It seems more ethical to create a secure gambling environment for all than to exclude based on subjective judgements.

We must protect vulnerable people's autonomy while avoiding exploitation. We should promote responsible gambling that supports and educates all participants instead of banning based on appearance. This method is humanitarian, lawful, and ethical.

Mate, gambling is for everyone and whoever is OK with the fun should be allowed to entertain himself with it. In life whatever field that you find yourself, you will meet the good, bad and the ugly. The gaming agent has said it all, that as long as he doesn't ferment trouble and he comports himself whenever he comes to book his game she is OK with it. It might be the fun that the person in question is deriving that is still keeping him alive. The bottom line is that you are free to do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone. Have you wonder why mental unable people do drugs. Business is business and it is open to all.

The title of this thread is quite misleading if we will try to avaluate your statement.

People that does look untidy does not necessarily mean they have unstable mind. Perhaps they are just not financially well, they are living a simple life doing some hard labor, but as long as they are thinking straight, they should be treated with respect, as they are human who have contribution to the community.

Now, if your questions is "Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?", the answer should be a big NO.

If he doesn't do something foolish, then let him be, ignore him, and respect his privacy. Knowing that you ask the attendant, she readily confirms to you that he doesn't misbehave and that, despite his appearance, she was already at ease having him as a frequent customer.

In a situation of mental instability, it is possible that a person has developed a gambling addiction while under the influence of alcohol or illicit drugs. Moreover, it goes without saying that a bartender may have an ethical duty to step in and stop a mentally unstable customer from partaking in risky activities if they see that person is unstable and likely to be harmed by gambling. We should not determine someone's mental stability based solely on their outward look. We don't have the same perspective, and I'm aware that a lot of people may judge you by the way you look or make judgments.  As many have said to me, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

For me if you we would base it on your story, there is no reason to not to allow that person to gamble since he is working and doesn't disturb other gamblers on the area.
He might be having some personal problem and gambling might be his way to stay sane, but if you are talking about those people who are making some scenes on gambling house then yes they should be ban.
The way he acted base on your story is pretty much normal, it is just the way he looks that makes you think that he is mentally unstable.

We should consider the gamblers is mental strong or not,because physical experience from the gambling is not the important one.Many gamblers have been gamblers from the longer will not give the importance to the physical appearance.Because physical appearance need of some dollars to spend on the cloths and the gamblers can use the same money in the gambling to multiple the money.As you said if the gamblers would not act violently after the game loss,it seems like the professional behaviour.For this reason the gambler with worst physical appearance are allowed the gambler to play in the gambling site.

Not for everyone, there will be an age limit for gambling, so minors should not do it.
Gambling will indeed be entertainment when they treat gambling like a game that will only produce its own satisfaction in playing,
not produce addiction that will spend money very quickly.

It is quite difficult when someone is mentally unstable, because there are many reasons about what they will do so that they can cure their mental problems.

Mental problems can also be due to gambling that is always losing and always wanting to do it.
The wisest thing is to adjust what is really needed to overcome the mental problem.
If gambling is an entertainment to be done, then there must be control over it all.

People have the right to gamble.  As long as they do not cause any trooubles to others, I think they can keep their right to gamble whatever the status of their mind is.

If we limit people who have mental issue to gamble then that will be labeled as discrimination.  As long as they are in the right age I believe they can gamble as long as they wanted.

That example you gave in the OP does not necessarily is the case of a person who is mentally unstable, in my opinion, we could be talking about a person who is mentally okey but does not completely take care of his apparence or clothes as other do, actually here where I live there are many places where people do mechanical works and other odds works, so it is common for them to be dressed in oil stained and slashed clothes all day, some of them could also step in a gambling/betting place to set their Bets before going and continue to work.

Now, if we were talking about someone who we would 100% sure is suffering from mental illnesses which impaired them in someway, then there would not much the casino operator could do to isolate that person from gambling anyways, as long the person behaves, is an adult and can pay for the bets, there is no legal grounds for them to deny the services to those people. It would take the ill person themselves to express their decision not to be admitted in the establishment again, for them to be excluded.

In this scenario the gambling house reserves the right to allow or deny certain users access to their facility, and the fact that this guy has not misbehaved around their premises has won the benefit of the doubt to keep being a patron and place his bets with no issues... besides without any proof of his unsound mental capacity isn't it considered discrimination to some degree and with the right person you can sue these guys and win ::)

But when it comes to accessing these premises, isn't this a privilege unlike being a right ???

The problem is it's difficult to decide if a person is mentally unstable or not and even if he/she has a medical record, it's difficult and not a good idea to tag and prevent them on something simple as opening a bank account or using internet, which are enough to start gambling.
The people that are financially responsible for such people can limit their use by budgeting and asking for bills but if the person is financially independent and has no legal obligation, we can't just restrict them for using their money anyway they want.

From the OP's story, the person only wanted to gamble and didn't want to cause any trouble, so the officers felt safe as long as the person was gambling with their own money. Moreover, there are no rules whatsoever that prohibit someone in shabby clothes from coming to an offline casino, it's just that it might make you uncomfortable other people see it. In my opinion, not everyone who dresses shabbily is someone who has a mental disorder and it could be that this person is a gambler who is addicted so he doesn't have time to take care of his clothes and take care of his cleanliness, he is just trying to get money to continue gambling, hoping that one day he will get lucky the big one.

If someone is clearly seen having a mental disorder and is causing trouble, officers will definitely take action and try to evict the person, because it is impossible for workers at the casino to just watch a person with a mental disorder enter the casino, which will make the customers uncomfortable. So in conclusion, as long as the gambler still has enough money just to gamble, I don't think it's a big problem, after all it will increase the profits of the casino itself.

Judging someone just by their appearance doesn't seem to be the right way because they could have left home and become homeless or they might be someone who lives on the streets so they look like someone who is in mental or emotional trouble.
People who experience mental or psychological disorders will of course never be able to think about making money and gambling and the person you meet still has way to make money and he can still think about making predictions about what to bet on.
After all, he still has good attitude and never does anything bad.
From here, can he be called person with mental or mental disorders?

If we are talking about whether someone who has mental disorder can gamble then the answer depends on the person himself whether he actually likes gambling or not and also what role his family plays.
People with mental problems usually have more difficulty controlling themselves and of course this will be very influential in gambling, they must be able to cure the mental problems they experience before actually carrying out any gambling activities.
Moreover, there will not be any prohibitions related to this problem, the only prohibitions may be those made by the casino owners themselves, not from the law or anything like that.

A person is prohibited from entering a gambling place for several reasons, such as mental disorders, often causing trouble or getting unreasonably angry when they lose or other reasons that result in discomfort for other visitors. Gambling places are open to the public, anyone can come there as long as they don't disturb other people's comfort.
Cases like the man you observed can still be tolerated, even though he is dressed shabbily and looks unkempt, his behavior is very polite when he is in a gambling place. The reason this person got permission to enter when he first came there was probably that the people around the gambling place were already close to his character.

Before I answer your question, you never established the fact that this man is unwell, and neither did the salesperson tell you such, unless you omit that part from what you narrated here. And for someone to dress dirty doesn't mean the person is not well mentally, it might just be that the person at times doesn't care due to the nature of his job, or may just be rough. The fact that he is always well-behaved and has never for once misbehaved shows that he knows what he is doing, so we can't use his appearance to judge anyone.

For the question, it is right, moral and very ethical to bar a person who is not stable mentally from gambling, unless you are a bad person and don't have a conscience. First, the person doesn't know what he is doing, secondly, you never know the source of the money, and third, you are not helping such a person in such a bad state to gamble. To me, it is just like a rip-off. What will the madman do with the money if he wins? And what if he wins big, where will they load the money? I believe it is not just wise since that kind of a person is not with his senses, and at that stage, the only thing that people should allow him to use money for are water and drinks. Others will only amount to wickedness.

if they are not causing any disturbances to the betting station or anyone, there's no reason to bar them, it's their money they have the right to bet, if nothing in the betting station that says specific people are forbidden from entering, then they should be allowed, and they have to give good reasons why they are barring these people, if they do not allow them.
Gamblers have different characteristics as long as they do not cause harm or inflict damage, we should not look down on them and let them bet.

Yes, that means the casino can accept someone in shabby clothes to come and gamble in the casino. Based on what has been said, the guy didn't make a scene in his casino, so the officers didn't mind if he gambled. Moreover, after gambling, he will leave the casino straight away without making a fuss about other people who are also in the casino and gambling. Unless the person often disturbs other players and makes a fuss, perhaps the officers will no longer allow him to gamble at the casino. Not all people who dress shabbily indeed have mental disorders because there could be people who dress shabbily. But he turns out to be a millionaire who gambles and doesn't want anyone to recognize him in gambling so he decides to dress shabbily. The important thing is that everything will be fine if the person doesn't disturb other players.

The officers at the casino must have recognized the people who were their regular customers because that was their job. And I think there are even people who dress neatly but often disturb people who are gambling and the officers have to be firm with them and will not allow them to return to gambling at the casino. Anyone can come to the casino as long as they are old enough to gamble and not disturb other people. The officers who work at the casino look after this because they also want to avoid any problems while they work there.

Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? No, I don't think so because gambling involves money and people should be mentally stable in my opinion especially in emotions because when you cannot control your emotions you will hit by an endless storm of the gambling world.

But of course, there are people who agree that people with mentally unstable should do gamble but those are just my opinion

Most mentally unstable people can't do gambling, they have lost part of their senses, how can they place bet on any game? Even if they can what will they use the money to do? Because mentally unstable people that I have seen struggles to even have a good conversation with stable people, there are different levels of mentally unstable, and the best ones out of all are those that can't control their emotions, but that part of losing focus on their surroundings and thinking about something that's not there is very common in them, they can't survive any gambling, it will only add more problem to their lives.

Mind you, not all those who are mentally ill dresses in rags, some actually still have that well being desire in them, they will come in good clothing and you will only know that they are mentally unstable with their behaviour in the public, if someone like them visits the casino for the first time I am sure they won't be allowed into the casino the next time, they are trouble makers and they don't even know it, due to their condition.

To answer this question you first need to define what mental is. Why is mental illness or mental instability. Did you know that there are many people who are mentally unstable. These people are our colleagues at work, friends at school, neighbors, and even some folks on this forum are exhibiting it. You already know.
You do not need to be violent to be categorize as a mentally ill person. In extreme cases, it is only a schizophrenic person that violent and this is when they are not in any medication to suppress the violent personality.
As long as the mentally ill person is not being disruptive, is conducting themselves appropriately and decently, there is no need to bar them from gambling if that is the little thing that gives them joy.

How will CASINO employee be able to determine if a person is mentally challenged? They lack the qualifications to make such a determination, and should concentrate on doing the job that they were employed to do.. checking ID's and also making sure banned and self-excluded people do not enter the establishment.

I think I will be doing an experiment soon.... giving a homeless person $100 and sending him into a casino.. to see if they discriminate against certain people.  ;)

I'll tell you this, "physically observing" is not enough. Someone can appear mental to some people while being a leader of a nation at the same time. Not allowing to such person access to a casino may cause international conflict, you know. :)

But if seriously I don't know if it's actually legal to bar from entrance people with dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard?

Yes definitely, at least morally and ethically the casinos has a duty to protect their customers. There is a big difference between someone willingly gambling with all his savings and someone having a psychotic episode and acts irresponsible. There is so much supervision at the casino to protect them from theft and cheating, that they should realise quickly if a customer has a medical or psychological condition. There are a lot of studies taken into considerion of human behavior to try and detect things like card counting quickly. Which is why casinos have ways to detect customers acting strange. It's also a security risk for other customers as psychotic episode could turn violent quickly if there are more trigger events.

I don't even imagine what gross mistakes in money management a player can make while under drugs. I have heard many times about players who drank alcohol and as a result lost all their money, after which they borrowed the maximum amount that friends and acquaintances could give him, after which he lost all this. I understand that this is a great emotional release for someone, but such fun is so expensive that you can even lose your apartment. So if you play at the casino, then only with a clear mind.

Yes, everyone has the right to gamble even if he is mentally unstable or homeless, after all we do not have the right to prohibit it, let alone regulate it, although we can give him advice, but still, if he is used to doing it as a habit, it will certainly be difficult to stop. Look at how the officer didn't stop him, that doesn't mean the officer never gave him advice, but it seems he still gambled at the gambling house.

If he is used to it and is good at managing his finances well because he often visits gambling houses, it is certain that he is an addicted gambler so it is difficult to stop him. Moreover, we cannot limit him as long as he doesn't really create chaos in the gambling house. There is nothing wrong with that, in fact we are the ones who it was wrong to stop him and he had the right to choose whether to gamble or not.

If you see a person who is not well-dressed and looks good, do you need to be judged him quickly as mentally unstable? We have no right to judge a person based on physical appearance. As you heard from the attendant, He's a regular customer and he never shown any behavior as unpleasantly as you think. I think there's nothing wrong for him to go and play in a bet shop, most especially that he never did anything wrong from the start.

I think that mental health challenges has different levels, because I've heard some mentally challenged people talk sensibly and keep out of trouble , and I've always wondered that if a person like this can talk sense and behave well then why is he looking so dirty and unkempt. So the way I see it if a mentally unstable person enters a bet shop and behaves himself, places his bet and leaves, then that shouldn't be a problem, it shows that he still has his behavioral sanity in place. Personally I wouldn't encourage such a person to gamble, but bet shops wouldn't care about conditions so far the customer has money to pay.

Family and friends of such mentally unstable people like the one in discussion should make sure that they get psychiatrist help before they might reach an uncontrollable level of insanity. Depression, drug abuse, medical conditions can make a person to lose parts of their sanity, so I believe that it's help that people like that needs.

First things first, you can't judge a book by its cover, so just because someone's physical appearance isn't so good, it doesn't mean that they are mentally unstable or anything unless you have other evidence of them being that way which isn't the case from what I've read in your thread since even the attendant said that he has never misbehaved or said anything that would indicate that he is mentally unstable or unsound. So, that remark doesn't sound logical to me.

That being said, if there is such a rule, it should only be applicable if the person doesn't know what they are doing and it should be evident from their behaviour. You said the guy made his bets in a very coordinated manner which means that he was pretty sound and knew what he was doing. So, I don't think that the betting attendant can refuse their money and say they can't allow them to gamble when they are sound about what they are doing.

Its shallow to determine a gambler's worth or intentions by their clothes. Although behaviour matters more than clothes, the casino's non-discriminatory attire code is admirable. Here, society's distorted reliance on appearances is evident.

Officers are essential to a healthy gambling environment. They must be vigilant for unruly customers regardless of outfit. Conduct matters, not clothes. As someone familiar with gaming dynamics, I think this approach is vital to a courteous, fun gambling environment.

Finally, the idea that shabby-dressed people could be wealthy defies prejudices. Remember that appearances can be deceiving, so never underestimate anybody solely on their appearance. This perspective enhances our awareness of human variation and life's unpredictability.

That's true, as you said that we can't if we only judge someone in terms of their appearance, because sometimes there are a lot of speculations and assumptions that don't match the facts, or that means they look bad or shabby but actually have a good personality and behavior and on the other hand sometimes the opposite is true, there are those who look good wearing a jaz with a tie but have very bad behavior or nature and often harm others, for that problem it is true. But on the other hand the casino is a place that is often visited by many visitors, although the officers never judge someone in terms of appearance but I think if there are people who have that appearance there is nothing wrong if the officers suspect them, because as we know in general the appearance of slums is always synonymous with crazy people or having mental disorders as we often see on the outskirts of the road.

So it is natural in my opinion if the officers are suspicious because obviously if the suspicion is correct in the sense that they are people who have mental disorders then obviously it will have the possibility or potential to disturb the comfort of other visitors in the casino, but on the other hand in the case said by the OP the person did not have any problems since he came there and always obeyed the rules like normal visitors, that's good and no problem but in my opinion if there are people we have just seen and look like that then it doesn't hurt to be suspicious and put on alert.

Is the way a person dress the basis if he's mentally unstable or not? Because as long as the person is behaving fine I don't think dressing shabbily is an issue (even his appearance is not as presentable as others). In op's story, the gambler act normally. It's just that, those seeing this guy might question his mental condition due to his physical appearance.

Anyway, observing is not enough to bar a person from gambling, it should be proven that he has a mental condition. That's the time they can apply whatever rules they have to protect their business to any violation for letting someone play even he's not in his right mind.

of course with the answer yes, that a person who is mentally unstable can gamble, because there are no rules that limit such things in any casino as far as I know, and I think that his mentality is not so severe that he can still behave well and not do negative things both in the gambling environment and his place of activity, so I think why the guard allowed the person to gamble because he knew that the person was not dangerous for the casino or other customers in the casino. And it can be seen that the person is only mentally affected not chronically which can make his logic completely dead.

But morally, I don't see that having to see that person going in and out of gambling every week to do gambling without having any winnings, so that it's like there is no other purpose in life, if it's me, I think it's better to hold it and treat it.

It is hard to figure out what's unstable gambler looks like I have seen gamblers who look and dress like a professional but have unstable judgment when it comes to gambling I have seen gamblers like those in your description who have good behavior like in your description, it is unfair to judge based on they look, they want to be unkempt so who are to judge these people, as long as they have good behavior and are not insulting or hurting anyone in the vicinity.
We should not discriminate against these people, gambling, and betting are for everyone and all walks of life.
The gambling operator will be happy to accept their bets it's the same money coming in from the other bettors.

What does it actually you mean about mentally unstable OP?
As long as a gambler never goes against the rules or something he can still place his bets rightly, it is okay. In fact, the person who pointed out has never been violent so there is no reason he should be banned from playing, and who knows, with the help of gambling his condition never gets worse. Gambling welcomes everyone, if you have money and you know how to gamble, well, you can play.

The casino owners see that the person wants to play despite his condition which gives him happiness. Why we should not let it happen?

Appearance has no bearing on luck or ability to bet. The main thing is whether a person has the necessary financial and psychological capabilities. And one can engage in online betting without any clothes at all - because who will see? And if a person went to the casino and passed the dress code, he looks a priori respectable regardless of the opinion of the district

With what you’ve explained in your post, this person is not mentally unstable but he is just a lazy person that can take good care of himself or someone experiencing poverty. If he keeps coming again and again without causing any trouble, I think the person is sound as well just like any other person coming in to place the bet.

My question now is, should poor people relent on gambling to help support and fend for themselves and family or not even try it at all because of the risk involved?

These are a common thing that often happens in real-life casinos. Did you notice that almost every casino has a bar? They serve beer and other drinks to players and they take it happily? Even if a player is winning, they never should take these drinks even if they are used to taking these drinks. These drinks make them drunk and then they lose control over themself, which leads them to make the wrong decision.

You never know what is going to happen in a casino. Your closest friend could rob you there and have fun. After losing a big amount and then realizing how much they have lost, it's not hard for a person to have a brain stroke that could make them mentally unstable.

There is always an ethical obligation which should be followed, but not everyone is ethical in life.

Moral obligation will depend on what the morals of the society where you are inserted are. If the morals of your community dictate it's wrong to let mentally unstable people who are clearly suffering from mental issues to gamble, then there is a moral obligation involved as well to not let that man go ahead, while guiding him to support where he can be treated and cared accordingly to his currently needs. It's not normal someone to be ragged gambling around, even though he isn't creating any messes for the gambling shop.

Legal obligation will also depend on the local set of laws and rules of your society. That is the kind of research you have to do regards your local country specifically or ask a professional from the judiciary system for accurate answers. In my country there are legal obligations to be followed in this case, not exactly by the shop owner, but by the government, and social assistance would be immediately triggered to talk and investigate the life of this individual: who he is, where he lives, where his family is, if he suffers from mental illness and so on...

I don't know if you're aware of the person Op is describing in his thread, but from what I read which led to my response, Op said he does a manual job. I'm not in Op's location nor do I know the man, so not in the right place to push further with your response, which says he has no job. However, he doesn't have a job, I mean continuing from your response, I have things to add. A beggar that uses his money to gamble, I think is deceiving the society or not in deep need to be a beggar. For a person to beg, he has nothing, no food, no family to provide for him, etc. It's not common to find a beggar who uses charity from others to gamble, maybe he's not comfortable with what the people are giving him or is turning begging into a full-time job. People who are worried about the dressing of another person in a specific environment don't understand the differences in people.

Personally, looks and dress shouldn't bother people. Their business there is to book games and go, and if they're not comfortable with the type of people visiting the gaming house they can stop going as you said. Which shouldn't be a problem for the agent. The customers there must find a fault, regardless. Finding a fault from another customer as a reason to stop patronizing the agent should also be tagged a personal problem or lack of emotional intelligence provided the customer isn't aggressive, fighting, or destroying their property. What matters is the serenity of the environment. How would you feel if in a barber shop, you walked in and found the same man being barbed in the same seat you'd sit next to Barb, would you leave the environment or not? I'm asking this to be able to understand your behavior toward such people, not just about what other people would do or say. I'm not sure if you are close to Op or have seen the man in his story.

It seems to me that when it comes to making money, no one cares how you dress, how mentally healthy you are, or what your financial situation is. In my opinion, if you pay attention to the mental state of every client, you simply will not be able to make money. In my opinion, this is the harsh conditions of business, where if you show weakness, your place will be taken by competitors very quickly.

I mean that was just a normal kind of guy in the casino right? For the most part a lot of people playing a lot in the casino have that kind of mindset and just want to gamble and gamble daily and doesnt really care about where they are going to get the money if they lose it that time. I mean if you are concerned about unstable people for sure they wouldn't be allowed to go outside if they have some kind of unstable mind, you just judge that guy from his appearance but maybe that's just the way he is.

Whatever it is that you are concerned about the casino can handle it, most casinos have a lot of rules so if he did something against that rule he is for sure going to be banned from that establishment or probably gonna go to jail if did get violent on some cases just because he was losing money. But probably people that weren't good at decision-making were the people this casino wanted to play so that they could easily get hooked by gambling.

the question is why would someone build a gambling business?
well, to this question there is an answer if it is about income. I mean gambling is built to make a profit and as long as someone who enters the casino does not do evil or disturb other gamblers and is also able to pay for his own gambling it is not a problem.
because I understand that all of that is a risk for the person even though he is mentally or physically unstable but if he knows the etiquette like entering a casino you have to pay and he also spends money on his gambling that's normal for me as long as it doesn't make him worse it seems like that does not matter.

but logically, we as sane people would definitely have the idea that the man was actually not allowed to gamble because mentally it was very pitiful, but however, as long as there are no rules, the casino has the right to allow anyone to gamble as long as they use money they can afford to lose.

Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.

Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

If we do speak about being mentally unstable then it is really that something that you could really be able to spot on on the way that someone who do behaves on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be having those acts or behavior on which it would really be reflecting out on the condition that they are currently experiencing. They cant really just that able to hide it specially if its really that severe.
There are ones who are really that able to control their gestures but there are ones who dont really care about the surroundings or saying of other people as long they would really be able to play and would do on the things that they do really have in mind. Some are really that not losing their composure even if they are already on losing side.

There are really people who are really that still good when it comes into their control and discipline and this is how should someone really be that responsible on the things that they are really that doing.
They cant really just that make themselves able to afford on letting themselves laughable into other peoples eyes and this is why they are really that careful into their acts.

You know one funny thing about mentally challenged people, if you tell them they are unfit and mentally not okay, do you know they will insult you and will want to fight you for trying to label them what they are not. They will never accept such profiling. They are adult and the fact that they recognize gambling and the want to play, I don't think any person has tbe right to stop them, everyone came their for fun right.

If a person is not stable upstairs, it is the responsibility of the guardian to watch over him, it's their responsibility to watch over their ways of life because even in casinos and other gambling platforms, you will hardly see them differentiate between female and male, as long as you are 18+ and you have the money, you are welcome. I haven't see exclusion of mad people or financially disable people from not gambling. The gambling companies don't have time to be baby sitting any customer because they are after the money.

However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.
Despite the dressing, of the person is not there to cause trouble, they should allow the person to gamble but he will have a limit.
I have seen some alcoholic addict that still buys drink and get drunk, and the sellers are still selling alcoholic drinks for the person. And you know drinkers and addicted gamblers are almost the same set of people.

People are really just that judgmental on which there are things which arent really that ethical on doing so just because they are not mentally stable then they dont have the right on playing? For sure casino owners would really be drawing out that border line on which if things turns out to have involvement about harassment or some scandalous kind of acts then it would be normal that they would really be kicking out a certain individual on such place and wont really be letting to enter the premises again on which it would really be just that a normal step that they would really be taking.It is really just that its too much if they would be banning out
directly without having some proper assessment on the situation. If there's nothing he had done then they are really that free to play and spend all they want.

We know that into this business, owners would really be much preferring into those people who are really that having those gambling problems because this is where they could really be able to make money
on which into those people who are really that impulsive already with gambling activity since they do know that spending would really be that too impulsive into this time.

By the way how did a mentally unstable person find his or her way to the casino or betting house. It is not alright though but I think if a mentally unstable person goes to the casino, it would be very noticeable and that might cost the casino their clients so they would try their possible means to stop them because of anything happens and the government gets involved, they would be held responsible and liable to be fined for their actions.

In this case of your observations, I think the cashier or whomever that attended to him has long known him. Maybe his physical outlook seems to be what you think makes him mentally unstable that is why we are told to not judge a book by its cover.

I don't think there is any rule that bans people who are mentally disabled from placing their bet, and just like you said, the person might not even be totally disabled; maybe it's just situations that make him appear the way that he is.
 
Someone who knows how to walk into the bet shop, make his own prediction, place the bet, make payment, and leave quietly without even causing any trouble does not look ill to me, and he also does some manual jobs around the area to raise money, which means he has bills to pay that do not look like the attitude of someone who is having mental issues.
 
The only place where I might think the law will be against is a situation where the person behaves abnormally all the time, not just by his appearance but also by his attitude towards people, doing all manner of violent things. People like that are not supposed to be allowed into a betting shop as they might end up destroying properties rather than just placing a bet and leaving.

Who are you to judge a person like that? Maybe he was just having a bad day, or maybe he does not care to keep his hair to your standards? People go around in all sorts of fashion these days, what happens if he was a handyman that had just finished his hard day at work and wanted to place a couple bets? You should not be so quick to make assumptions about peoples lives, I've come across a few millionaires that act very frugally and don't spend money on things like high end fashion, but they are still very intelligent people. The story that he gives the staff may also just be cover, he could be very well off and perfectly normal. Nothing you've mentioned is what I would class as a mentally unstable person, it could just be someone who never got taught personal hygiene properly or doesn't care to wear cleaner clothes that you might like.

From the OP, it’s obvious that not dressing properly doesn’t define the mental state of a person. Saying the individual in question acted in ways that are becoming to society with the exception of his dressing says he’s stable at least.

He doesn’t still,
Don’t go about begging for aids,
Tries he’s hands on some gambling to earn or maybe distract himself and
Works a job to raise funds.

Just how would he be to not be insane. Perhaps it’s possible we could see an insane person that is properly dressed. Can we?
Anyway, he places his bets, pays for it and coexists with the rest of the world peacefully, that’s cool.

Some betting operators and bet shop owners do not care who they take money from for bets, so long as their pockets are enriched. It is not proper.

It is a very thin line between a homeless person and a mentally unstable person, sometimes you may mistake a man who is just homeless and leaves on the streets to be a mad or mentally unstable person, but it is not always true.

A homeless person has little hope, and betting or gambling and hoping to win may just be the last hope they have to at least get something from this life, If you think of it somehow, it can be sad to take away that last hope that they have got.

Sometimes, what you see is not what you get. You can never judge a person just by mere seeing his physical looks. You can't criticize him  being mentally unstable just because he wears dirty and stinky clothes. Except if he does crime or illicit activities near or inside the betting shop, then he should be banned and not allowed to bet.

Everyone is free to gamble and chose their desired bets regardless of his physical or mental condition. As long as he knows how to control it and is able to gamble without breaking the rules, then he should be welcome to gamble.

did anybody say it's wrong for a mentally derailed person to gamble? .... Okay, if anyone said so, atleast not me... I don't think there's any problem with that.... But, how's he even gonna coordinate his thinking to choose his tickets and odds?? Basically, I feel the best predictions come from peeps who are updated with a team's current performance -- if so, then that brings another question... Do we have local viewing centers for mentally derailed people to watch livegames??... I don't believe in the fact that people are being told how to bet in their dreams - especially, the said set of people.

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I don't think bet companies will consider baring a mentally unstable person who is well-behaved not to gamble in their physically established shop, if not that the bet cashier knew who the man was, it would be very difficult for anyone to identify such a person's mentally status, for me as long as the person can come into the bet hall and stake his or her bet without obstructing the people from doing the needful, stop in such person will amount to violation of his or her human right, no law has been enacted by the government to function to that effect, in conclusion they should be allowed if they can comport themselves.

If every gambling shop starts to crosscheck gamblers by the way they dress before they can gamble, would you think they will be having inflow and outflow of gamblers every given day without them losing thousands of customers coming to gamble in their gambling shops due to the way they dress?

For every gambling shop you see, expect to see unkempt dressers, the reasonable and unreasonable individuals in the gambling house, and every one of them acts according to why they are there, to gamble and leave without causing a nuisance. However, no gambling shop prohibits someone who is shabbily dressed from coming in. Everyone is allowed to come in the way they are as long as they are well-behaved.

I suppose it could be done but it will be way more difficult and expensive than what it may seem at first glance, since this will require for a psychiatrist to diagnose a person and then that person should be added to a database that all casinos around the country use to forbid those people to gamble, but even if that system was put in place it will be incredibly easy to get around it, as the only thing you will have to do is to avoid being diagnosed so you can gamble as much as you want anyway.

Mentally unstable people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to gamble as they’re literally not stable mentally. But In the case you stated, how can we really tell that person is mentally unstable?
Understandably, we can form an opinion based on information we’ve got and based on the looks, one could easily conclude about his mental state.

“Do not judge a book by its cover”. I’ve found this to be extremely accurate as things are not always as they appear to be.
Everyone seems to be fine with the “mentally unstable” man playing and he behaves himself better than a lot of supposedly mentally sane people. The establishment also doesn’t mind taking his money and letting him gamble.

I disagree with you. Someone who is not mentally stable is not supposed to be allowed to gamble. I know there is no law that stops them from gambling or that says they should be rejected when they come to gamble, but to me, it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know how they are getting the money they are gambling with. If someone is mentally unstable, they can do anything just to get money; they might end up hurting people just to get money. You don’t expect an unstable person to be given a job, so the question is, where are they getting the money they are using to gamble?
 
If you are running a business, there are some things you shouldn’t just do because of money, so you can allow an underage person to gamble at your place just because you don’t care, all you want is money. If you know that someone is unstable, then don’t allow them to gamble.

There is a quite difference between some who is mentally unstable and an underage. Even the gambling rules go against underage but does nothing about mentally unstable person. Something, being rough and dirty may not really mean is fully mentally unstable. He may look like that out of drug abuse. For him to have known how to make predictions and where to place a bet, means he still have some percentage of being mentally stable. I don't see anything bad in it placing bet for him since no rule against that in the country or the betting site.

If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers

The gambling owner never allow the person with unsound mind,because most probably they will fight with the gambling site.They never realized the importance of the gambling site,they will fight without any proof with the gambling site.So the gambling site will delete Or ban their account because of the unprofessional behavior because of less sound of mind.The reason itself help us to earn more money by the technical skills in the gambling site.The physical activity and apperance was not the important factor here.Because the most brilliant person in the many sector will look like the simple person till they prove their own business skills in the gambling site.

A gambler that causes trouble in the casino, should be tagged mentally ill and shouldn't be allowed to enter the casino. But if another gambler is safe and doesn't fight or destroy any facilities in the casino, he should be allowed to spend his money. Everyone has their space, and nobody disturbs one another, it's a safe place for every gambler who is qualified by age to participate and enjoy his habit. Hence we shouldn't have a bad time with such people as regards gambling. Whenever a person is allowed by the authorities to enter a place, he has been checked long ago and found worthy of visiting. If not he would have been bounced long ago by the security men. Whether a casino or the government should ban mentally ill people from participating in gambling, is a question that has no direct answer. Since most people who are gambling addicts are indirectly mentally ill. And the government or the casino has done nothing to keep them away from gambling or ban them entirely from the habit.

Government for mentally ill people aims to heal them and recover their senses, to maintain a good and quality society. Mental disorder has different stages, and not until one slaps or smashes his TV sets on the floor that he'll be considered mentally ill. The human brain is suffering each day from challenges that compel it to suffer mental illness. But only the strong can withstand and still hold themselves back from the temptation of getting aggressive on certain matters. But when it gets obvious, the person can be taken to the hospital to receive some injections to help them sleep. And cool their brain. Gambling also leads to mental illness, so, should Op also wonder about banning gambling in countries where youths are going crazily in debt due to problem gambling? With all these odds surrounding gambling, a person or gambler must have done something remarkably wrong to be banned from using gambling. Which may have nothing to do with his dressing.

Yes, that's true as long as the person doesn't make trouble and disturb the other players, then just leave it alone, he's just gambling and after the money runs out he immediately goes home without making a fuss if he loses. After all, the person is a regular customer which means he's used to coming shabby clothes because the most important thing is that the bets are paid according to the betting rate. As long as he doesn't harm other people and doesn't harm the casino then it's fine, and we also don't know if the life of this shabby person is really a poor person or a millionaire who disguises himself so that no one recognizes him playing gambling. Whatever thing always happen in the world gambling as long as he is still gambling in his shabby clothes means he is still said to be someone who can afford to lose money.

Well, thats the problem, usually even people who dress neatly can get into trouble if they experience defeat and are emotional, so we don't need to discriminate against someone just by the way they dress. Even if it's shabby, at least the person is safe and doesn't bother other people or harm other people.

Maybe you are right on the point that there seems to be a little misunderstanding in the story that the OP told. And from what I also saw, it seems that he is not talking about an addict; the only thing that seems to worry the OP is the physical condition and clothing of the gambler, which he refers to.

But still, from what I can think of, it seems that the gambler's clothing is not really like that of a beggar. Because the casino staff just let it go, which means it's still normal to look at the gamblers' clothing because if it doesn't distract their customers, maybe this op may have just exaggerated his story.

The space doesn't belong to anyone, as far as you're in the system and have no secure any solid standings, it means you're just a newbie grooving about looking for evidence. Brilliant gamblers have merge their primary target and also have backup options in cases where their main plans fails, the alternative will carry be triggered from there onwards. We know how risky it is for gamblers trying to suit into the system and I've no clarity of the incidence to expects next other than staying on one side and providing for ourselves. Mentally unstable individuals shouldn't been allow any where close to the bettingshop because they have these recalcitrant attitudes towards these gambling activities and I've seen quite alot of people that have become victims.

Mentally unstable people should not gamble because how can they gamble well when their mental state is not in good condition. But the problem is that casino or betting shop owners don't see this, they don't care about the condition of their players, because money is money, they don't care where and from whom the money comes. What they think about is money and money, and as long as the player doesn't make trouble there, he is free to play as he likes until the money runs out and that is the fact that I see.

There is a saying don't judge a book by its cover. So that's what we or the officers at the casino have to do. But in reality, this is only partially the case because there are still people who only see it from its appearance. When there are people who dress shabbily, they are not well received in a place. But well-dressed people are well received. In many places, many people don't look at someone just by their appearance but overall.

And yes, the officer's job is to ensure that the workplace is safe from anything. They can ask someone to leave the casino premises if officers see them as potentially creating a disturbance there. And if someone has no intention of causing a disturbance, the officers will not do anything and will watch.

And because he had visited the casino very often and only wanted to gamble and when he was finished, he would immediately leave and not disturb the others, the officers allowed him to gamble. The officer didn't see him doing anything strange, and because he was used to it, he just watched the person. The person in the shabby clothes may be in disguise and he is a rich person, especially since the officers already know who he really is and where his money comes from.

However, gambling can attract people from various circles because of the factor of winning from gambling. That's what makes people from lower classes continue to go to gambling places because they still hope to win some money.

People do really love to judge and would really be believing on things that on whats up into their minds on which it isnt really just that ethical sometimes on making some conclusions and trying out to discriminate into someone or judging them basing on how they do behave and how they do dressed up. Why people cant just let people do play and do things that they do want without needing to make up some assumptions that
people who are mentally stable should only be the ones who would be entering the vicinity? It is really just that too much in speaking about those criteria on which we know that it cant really be just that
applicable considering that anyone could free to play as long they do have the money.

They would really be that kicked out on the place if ever they would really be doing such acts which it isnt already appropriate but judging them on how they do dress and how they do behave
then it is already that too much or really that crossing in the line in speaking about someones right. There are really just those people who are really that
easy to judge basing up on how you do look without even knowing the whole story. lol

Indeed, it would be better not to gamble when our mental condition is not in a good condition, because it is very likely that we will play greedily and this will be very detrimental to us and we will also not be able to enjoy the game well.
Yes, casino owners won't have a problem if they don't make a fuss at the place as long as those who want to gamble bring money for the gambling they want to do.

Shabby clothes or an appearance that can be said to be not good cannot be used as a reference that the person is mentally disturbed or has mental problems because everyone has their own way of dressing, and as long as he and the gambling house staff say he is fine then he is a mentally good person who just doesn't look like a normal person.
My guess is that he is just someone who really likes gambling and to fulfill his desire he works very hard so that his appearance doesn't look good but mentally he is aware of every act of his gambling.

Gambling platforms are entertainment places and not mental institutions. I think in letting the platform ban people who are mentally unstable/has mental illness will do more harm to them than good. It could be used against them on the grounds of discrimination, which is a very common angle through which people use to gain a hefty paycheck. No one can really know if a person is going through some mental illness or not. I've seen and talked to a lot of people who behave erratically but are really sane people with a lot of substance and depth than what they appear to be.

It is morally right to bar people who is going through some form of mental illness to something that could further destroy them. Then again, gambling places are there to entertain people whilst taking huge money from its patron, and not judge people based on what they appear from the outside.

Do we have a way to know that someone at a first glance is mentally unstable? Sure you can judge by how they dress but that's not how most of these dress so it's hard to tell, I am in favor of having them barred from gambling because they're likely to hurt themselves or the others in the case that something isn't going their way which is likely to happen when you're gambling.

I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet .

Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger.

But sometimes not everything we see matches the actual facts, such as judging someone in terms of a shabby appearance and it turns out that his heart is clean or has a much better behavior and nature than people who wear jaz and office workers. So as an officer of course what must be prioritized is some precautions to minimize the risks that can occur in the comfort of other visitors to the casino.

Researching and confirming whether the person is a sane person or really has a mental disorder is something that must be done by the officers, so I will not blame if the officers at the casino are so strict in limiting people who look suspicious in terms of appearance, because after all this is the duty and obligation as an officer who has full responsibility to keep the situation safe and maintain the comfort of the visitors who come.

There are many individuals that are mentality unstable but they don't get serotype as their disability is still in a manageable state, the individual hasn't cause any harm therefore I don't think we should chase them out of the bet shop. He didn't stay there for long, he only place his bet and left and I think that is okay. From your explanation, he does some job and it means he isn't a very mad individual yet, he's still doing things like everyone else so he should be allowed to gamble.

Mentally unstable individually are human beings too and they shouldn't be deprived of the entertainment of gambling, as a casino owner or betting shop owner, you can pay extra attention to them and if they want to cause any discomfort to your other customers, your security personnel should step in and keep peace in the casino, if the mentality disabled man isn't causing problem allow them to enjoy the game.

Firstly I will not judge someone's mental health from their appearance this common saying don't judge a book by the cover so don't judge from the look first, when I read the story I was expecting the part when you will say he fought or harassed someone in the casino shop but you never mentioned so how is this person mentally unstable?, I know of a man in my locality he always appears as a mad man but he is normal and strangers usually mistake him as a mad man, in my opinion if he's not causing any harm or threat then he's allowed to gamble, there's no law as such in a local casino shop but still some people will refuse to attend to someone dressed like that.

Sometimes people are judge due to their poor physical appearance. However, this is gambling, appearance is not important there as no matter how you look, at long as you have the money to play, you are very much welcome.

There are people who are consistent in going in a gambling shop and actually they are the biggest contributors of the profit of a casino as those who are rich are very smart in managing their money, they just gambling occasionally and they have control to just bet based on limit. These small time gamblers usually makes mistakes, they go aggressive and sometimes they'll end up borrowing because they go beyond their budget.

I agree with you, because basically what physical casinos are looking for is profit so they don't care about people who are mentally unstable, because if they still have enough money to gamble then I don't think it's a problem, also with an unsightly appearance, maybe He just disguises himself like that and in reality he is a person who has a lot of money ;D, but he doesn't know what their motives are. Obviously, profit is still the main thing in physical casinos. and it's true what you said, if they are mentally unstable but don't disturb other players around them then that's not a problem either. Unless they disturb other people's comfort, casino security must take further action.

that won't be a problem for casino owners because what they are looking for is profit, where there is money we can gamble but if there is no money then we can't gamble, also looking at the appearance might make people in the physical casino a little disturbed , but the casino doesn't care about that, unless there are a lot of people who file complaints or protests about the presence of people who are mentally unstable and whose appearance disturbs comfort, then maybe the casino has to act, because it's impossible for them to want to lose a lot of customers just because of one people who make other customers uncomfortable.

The certification of a person to be said to be mentally unstable is not something that demands professionalism to know, for just by the abnormal behaviours and actions expressed by the individual it will be written all over him/her. What we can argument on about that needs a professional hand is only in the aspect of getting a cure it solution to the mental ailment.

Alright, they may not all be that violent but still normal people won't feel comfortable occupying same space with them knowing that this person has a mental health problem.  And one more thing @fiatless, a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?

True. I agree with you Lida93. But I know some mentally unstable people still work at their family business to help their family. They work only what was instructed to them and always need guides and helping hands. The important thing is, even though they work and help in the family business, the members never give him cash money to spend according to his wishes, he always asks his family what he needs and they buy that thing for him.

So, he has no chance to gamble at all. The person I was talking about is our local and almost everyone knows him. Even if he goes to any shop and wants expensive things, the shop owners will refuse even if he wants to buy them with cash. Because they know that he is mentally unstable!

100% No, because gambling can cause mental health issues and gambling addiction definitely will make it worse for someone who already has a mental health issue.
Based on your story, the guy might have personality disorder, depression, ADHD or other mental health issue from his gambling addiction in the past.

However, an employee nor the owner of the bet shop will not reject or ban any of their customers who might have a mental health issue as long as the custommer paying with cash and never create any trouble to their business.
Business is business, there is no legitimate reason why the bet shop must reject/ban anyone with mental issue to place bet on them.

Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life.
People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not.

Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement.

I think mine question we need to ask ourselves is whether mentally unstable people can be restrictions from gambling? If yes, then how would that be done. Even preventing children from gambling is very hard let alone talking about adult that are mentally unstable. It is when you see a person and you feel like this person is mentally unstable before you think of the next step to take. Gambling is mostly done online especially for cryptocurrency casino which can be very difficult to know who is who and how to prevent some certain issues. It is never easy to know whether the person gambling online is mentally unstable or not.

That's right, they all have the rights to stop someone they think are suspicious and will cause a ruckus. But I think that each customer that they see will be given time to be observed before they do any action like kicking him outside the premises or will keep him inside and continue to gamble. Usually, if these people that don't dress well have got mone and it's seen at the entrance or have been checked, they'll just allow these people to enjoy their day and win or lose, they'll still get that person's money through losing their games.

That's really hard to do because it is subjective at the time of placing bets.  And then to some degree there are levels of instability.  What constitutes someone who passes the eye test and what doesn't.  In the end if someone isn't doing something illegal than casinos will most likely let them bet other wise they set themselves up for discrimination lawsuits.

People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker.  8). When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never
been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks?
You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all.

Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes.
We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge.

Should people with violent tendencies be allowed near children, near firearms, or knives?

That's basically what you're asking. Of course there's no law that prohibits people like these from ever getting their hands on such weapons and personal effects, and so do people with mental health problems and gambling, but I think you know where I'm heading with this. People with mental health problems who decide to gamble will only cause themselves even more problems in the future. Which then leads to them getting addicted, which becomes a separate yet real problem on its own, becoming way harder for the person to deal with himself and his problems as time passes by.

When you give someone who can't take a break another way for them to exert their escapist's tendencies, they get addicted to it and they end up becoming problematic. Whereas if you give them the actual help that they need they get to become better and more acceptable versions of themselves.

There's no legal obligation for us to stop someone who's already mentally unstable to gamble his life away. But I think as humans we should be ethically and morally responsible for the welfare of one another, and we should act accordingly if we ever get into the same situation as OP has been.

I think the problem with things like this is that it seems to involve judgement of an individual.  Who is to say if someone is mentally unstable or not?  How is this information to be obtained?  You have to watch out for slippery slopes with these sorts of things.  Maybe if a person signed some document claiming to be mentally unstable then you could have a discussion, but the idea of observing someone and determining they are mentally unstable and denying them certain things seems like a bad idea to me.

It's indeed wrong to make hasty judgments based solely on appearances. Inclusive approach should be adopted that allows people a chance to demonstrate their behavior and intentions. It's important to maintain a secure and orderly environment within establishments. Security measures are in place to ensure the safety and well-being of both customers and staff. Addressing potentially disruptive behavior is a valid concern, and intervention may be necessary in certain situations.

The contention that individuals who may not dress well should still be allowed to enjoy their time and engage in activities like gambling underscores the principle of fairness and non-discrimination. Making assumptions about someone's character solely based on their attire can lead to unfair treatment and exclusion. The financial capacity or the ability to engage in the activities offered by the establishment should be a primary consideration.

On the contrary, not just anyone can state or determine the actual mental state of an individual. Unless of course, you want to judge a person purely by appearance which is what is presented for you and others to see.
There are also mentally unbalanced people that dress okay and behave somewhat normally that you won’t at first notice anything amiss about them.

We definitely need a professional to first diagnose the mental health of an individual as well as getting the proper treatment required.

This kind of assessment needs to involve a psychologist expert if there is indeed a statement letter from the relevant party about the mental disorder experienced.
But of course this will not be done randomly in people who appear to have mental disorders according to our observations.

But if they are the closest people or family, it is necessary to do some checks to determine if they appear to have a mental disorder due to gambling or not, This needs to be done.

But when we do the idea of mental disorders in strangers, and they don't accept it, of course we will accept the problem of unilateral accusations that are detrimental to the accused person.

But when someone has committed a criminal act or an act that can endanger others, the accusation directly and reporting to the authorities is not a problem,
because there is an element of mental disorder that arises right away.

Real gambling involves money but it is also possible to play it for free. A person can be mentally unstable but they can still have a money with them. So, if you own a casino you will definitely allow them to place their bets, and it is not going to be your obligation anymore, what ever happens to them next.

A gambler is only responsible for themselves, also their guardians if they are still young and if they have problems like the guy in our story here. Emotions and mental state is I think not the same, but both of them can influence our decisions. A person might be mentally challenged but we don't know, what if their emotions are still in a good state?

from the situation described, gamblers with mental disorders just put money and bet then leave. Maybe only a few people around the casino will be disturbed by the arrival. but that won't last long if it turns out that the gambler with a mental disorder is betting on the money he earned himself. do not rob or harm other people.
I think if this situation continues, the gamblers who are there will not have a problem with it. because they know the gambler in question won't cause problems by disturbing other gamblers or even causing chaos in the casino.

Some rich gamblers who are disciplined can manage their money, but not all. Similarly the low rollers. Most often people would qualify rich and low rollers by appearance. Not knowing that people are different in terms of gambling. It all matters in the mind of the gambler, what he's about to do with his time in the casino. The appearance doesn't matter, the attitude does. That's why people are encouraged to focus on the purpose that led them to the casino house or whatever gambling shop they find themselves in. It'll also help the gambler to think well on his next gambling moves. Any gambler who is educated on the ethics and disciplines required in gambling doesn't need to fear losing his budget or going to borrow money to fulfill his gambling goals. However, you'd notice that not all gamblers have this knowledge, regardless of the class they belong to. We, gamblers, need to decide on a routine and keep by it, plan according to our earnings and profits, and do what should yield some profits for us, gamblers.

It's been quite a long time since society never wanted gambling addicts, hence no one should be encouraged to make similar mistakes as those who ended up addicted. No one has been known as gambling proof, some who appear responsible can end up addicted and the player who doesn't dress well, and looks dirty, may end up escaping addiction. In the history of gambling as a journey, addiction should be the most concern, for both parties, the rich and low rollers. Because none among them would be able to survive it easily. Addiction is the main mental illness or disorder, which we should be worried or cautious about when gambling, instead of looking at clothes. When a gambler begins to get aggressive he'll need to watch his finances or seek help, don't know if this only happens to the low rollers, I think the high rollers also experience the problem of wagering too much and losing out, which leads to transfer of aggression.

As I mentioned in my earlier responses, I'm just giving everyone additional advise to stop making snap judgments about individuals based just on how they seem. People are highly judgmental, as you mentioned, but we should train our minds to control it and set boundaries. Similar to gambling, it is impossible to determine whether someone is mentally ill. Regarding the original question, there isn't really a definitive response because people's mental stability varies greatly and it's difficult to determine whether someone is mentally unstable. You can't tell, for example, if a gambler with a mischievous smile on his face and constant laughter has stable mental stability or not. To be honest, from what I've seen, some mentally ill folks still want to gamble. Those with mental instability attempt to act normal in order to fool others. Still, people make excellent pretenders. Okay, that concludes it.

All opinions that have mentioned above has a valid point, seems like we have different perspective about this topic but yeah, being judgemental is like a thing nowadays and we can't deny the fact that sometimes we judge a everything we see in our minds and I thinks it's okay as long as you keep it to yourself and you can't offend others by your judgement. Please note that not everything we see physically is real, especially every person is good at hiding their Identity and true feelings.

You are right definitely, some people actually see other people as mentally unstable judging from the way they look or appear in terms of dressing and overall look, while I still will believe that this is actually one of the ways to never go wrong in judging or finding out who is mentally stable, and who is not, there is stil chances one could be wrong.
Some people are naturally dirty, they always appear in dirty clothes that some of us will tend to assume that they are mentally unstable.

There is someone like that over here in my area, I think that he is actually mentally unstable but not to the extent that he cannot gamble, this man gambles like crazy, there is a lotto being played every day here in my country and some other African countries, the game is played 5 rounds every day, and this man plays it all, whether he has ever won, and what he does with the money he wins, I don't know, but fact is that, we all consider him a mad man, but then, his mental instability has or have not stopped him from gambling.

Op, occasionally I have seen this category of mentally unstable people giving out pool games and football tips to people but not gambling themselves and in some cases people win from their games and in return give them money and some of them do this to survive, even someone in this condition I know saw me and insisted I should play the game he gave to me and to my greatest surprise I won the game but the second time I tried it out I didn't win again, I wonder what that give them those games they give to people because to my knowledge I know they don't follow football events or go watch matches, I kind of think there is spirit behind them going to betting games or giving out of games.

A mentally unstable person sometimes gamble,this is what I have seen,but in most cases,those ones who have the ability to find money like that are always harmless,they do not disturb other person's peace which makes their people allow them come close to where humans are,and they are also free to do whatever they like in as much as they do not harm,but for those ones who harm people,I think people do not allow them get close where people are as well because they can pose a threat on human life,and cause problem as well.
Most atimes,they give people draw code that they see spiritually,which if you try,it plays.I think this is the only relationship they have with the sane people,and their sanity level will determine whether people will allow them come close to them or not.

It's important to remember that a person's appearance doesn't necessarily indicate their mental health. Simply looking at someone's clothes isn't enough to determine if they're mentally unstable. We can't assume why they're dressed a certain way, but it's possible that it could be related to their gambling habits. Based on your post, it seems that the person you saw is mentally stable since he didn't misbehave in the gambling house and knew how to bet. We can't be sure if they're begging for money, which could explain their clothes. In some countries, begging is a job because the amount of money they can earn from it encourages people to continue begging.

I don't understand your point of argument because you keep contradicting your former stance. You stated in your former post that mentally unstable people are violent and might not have the ability to earn a living and gamble. There was no time you made any effort to distinguish the type of mentally unstable people you were referring to when you generalized that they cannot work and are all violent. You never said anything about discomforting other gamblers, and neither did I mention any of the concept of depression. Come to think of it depression is a mental disorder and some of the cardinal signs of this condition (especially in extreme conditions) are anger and aggression which is the root cause of violence.

However, I think I have learned some lessons from this thread which include that everyone has the right to gamble as much as his presence doesn't cause discomfort to other gamblers and the casino management deems them fit. Also, we shouldn't judge a person's mental state by merely looking at their physical appearance. And it seems that most terms of service of many gambling platforms are silent on this issue. It is also evident that some national laws might not have covered this area.

For this set I wouldn't categorize them as mentally unstable but people that are deficiency of reasoning and self determination, because like you said they take orders, follow orders accordingly as instructed and don't act except they are told to and for that other people see them as persons that can't decide for themselves therefore even when they try to take certain spontaneous decision for themself people will interpret it as unintentional because of their mental deficiency.

All am trying to cap in real sense is that mentally unstable people (demented person) don't take instructions neither do they adhere to it to go with. So those persons you @shishir99 is referring to as not mentally deranged or demented but are just deficiency of reasoning of their own. They are like dummy's.

I don't know what seem to be contradictory in my explanations to you.  I still hold my ground on this matter that the mentally unstable people can't work  except they are not really mentally unstable but are a depressive individual's or person's suffering from mental deficiency in such state of condition they can work to a limit but for mentally unbalanced persons am not sure. And if they are allowed to gamble if am to be fair they are humans too despite their condition so they have a right to take up human activities too but normal people won't feel comfortable around them because they wouldn't know what next action they can carry out as it rings in their head ignorant if the consequences of their actions.

 And for the record depression as you had defined as a mental disorder is actually not correct as you had defined it. According to the Wiktionar-Dictionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/depression) defined depression as  (psychology) In psychotherapy and psychiatry, a state of mind producing serious, long-term lowering of enjoyment of life or inability to visualize a happy future. There was no mention of a mental disorder.

We're all here to learn and it should also delight you to know that I have learnt new ideas from your Op post but that being said we still have to sharpen some edges and not agree to all things uniformly.

Yes, that should be the main point, don't judge someone based on their mental condition as long as they don't bother anyone in the gambling house, of course that is the right they have to get as a customer. In essence, all gamblers, whoever has their money, are still guests and kings of a gambling house. That's the importance of respecting anyone to gamble as long as the government doesn't prohibit it.

I also, if I see it, it probably won't bother him and someone who is in trouble. In fact, I often see beggars buying several lottery tickets at gambling houses just to look for luck. Anyone can buy them, not only rich people can play, buying lottery tickets, poor and rich can't. no one knows that victory will come to whoever is lucky, sometimes poor people can become suddenly rich if they win the lottery with a very big prize,

I am glad both of us have learned from this thread and we are also aspiring to understand more. The process of brainstorming is filled with claims and counterclaims. But is inappropriate to base an argument on just a definition. The term "do your research" means gathering information from different sources, analysing them and reaching a conclusion. Don't also expect to have the exact words in a definition before you can dictate a relationship. If you just do a quick search on Google about types of mental disorders, I can guarantee that 60% of the results you will get will include depression. Even in your definition, it includes that are depressed person is prone self inflicted injuries and suicide (are these states mentally stable). The field of mental health is broad, you and I need to take a course on it to be able to gain foundational knowledge.

Well that's the important point, sometimes the situation can be reversed, or it means that people who are dressed neatly can have worse behavior and hearts than people who are dressed shabbily, so of course it's true that we can't judge someone just in terms of appearance. In my opinion, the people said by the OP are those who do have a life below average, or that means one of the poor people who are involved in gambling so that their way of dressing is not like normal people which of course clearly raises some speculation and assumptions from people who see it, especially from the officers on guard there.

If you just saw someone like that then obviously I think one of the first things that comes to mind is that you will assume that they are one of the people who have a mental disorder but after communicating and they look fine in the sense that they don't have any disorders and have never made problems at the casino then that's where trust will arise where the officer has got certainty that they are good people. On the other hand, it is clear as the OP said that the person works odd jobs to earn money for gambling, and that means they have good responsibility and always try hard to get something, unlike beggars in general.

I've seen it too. They said they sometimes buy lottery tickets. They hope to make money from the lottery so they will still buy it if they have the money. These people gamble because they desire to win the jackpot prize from the lottery. And yes, anyone can gamble, regardless of whether they are rich or poor, because gambling can reach all groups. Gambling seems to give hope to everyone that gambling can give them a lot of money and that's what makes people interested and start playing the gambling games they like. They should not need to gamble too often and only occasionally so that they do not become addicted to gambling. In that case, the officers still allowed him to gamble even though he was dressed shabbily because he had been gambling at the casino for a long time and never made a fuss. So the officers didn't see him as a threat and allowed him to gamble. After all, he always left after he finished gambling, and either he lost all his money and then left, or he won some money and then left.

That's true, if there are people who are mentally unstable and they gamble in physical casinos but they don't disturb other people's comfort, that's not a problem, even if their appearance is different from other people in general, so their appearance becomes a spectacle for many other people, we can't I think they are mentally unstable, because in my opinion everyone has different thoughts about their appearance and maybe they have their own motives and if they gamble and win it will attract the attention of many people.
also with the security in physical casinos, perhaps they will also pay attention to mentally unstable people, because they are afraid that they will disturb the comfort of other people, even though they are mentally unstable, the casino will not worry about it if they have enough money to gamble, because the goal Casinos are for profit so anyone can gamble if they have enough money. because there may be people who appear polite and neat but they have mental problems that can disturb the comfort of other people. So I think a mentally unstable person can gamble if he has enough money and doesn't disturb other people's comfort.

With that argument, they are also hoping for some luck and even the money they use comes from those donation that they've got while seeing for goodhearted people that will passed by, who knows if one day luck permits and allow them to win right? and  in terms of unstable people who also attached with gambling, they are also using the veneu either they are having fun or also aiming for luck and enjoy the money that they will earn from gambling.

As far as the security can vouch with their attitude they should be allowed to play, anyway, the decision is for the owner  to take whether he will allow it or he will not if he see or feel threat with the person, but as long as there's none and the owner and the security are allowing then it's good to go.

Mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed into a gambling facility. The only place they should be allowed into should be a psychiatric or a care home for full recovery. If you say security should vouch for them before letting them in, the security will not be able to tell the history of the illness and if their illness has its onset or cause by gambling.

How would a professional assess on the spot.  Online it's literally impossible but brick and mortar casinos how would you know someone has a mental disorder?  They just walk through the doors, this is almost a pointless proposition because one there is no true way to "label" a person going into a casino and two is all the discrimination lawsuits that the casino will face.  It's just like anything else, until they pose a threat to themselves or someone else that is visible that day there is no way to stop them from gambling.

Well, there are a lot of categories afaik regarding mentally unstable individuals and this should be known to anyone that we shouldn't base it on their looks, the way they behave, or the way they dress or something similar. If somehow that physical bet shop, a casino perhaps has some rules being enforced to not consider them, then, that I think should be exercised. But, for me, there are instances in which we can take some considerations.

the problem here is that you do not know if the guy is actually mentally unstable or not. apart from being shabbily dressed, with dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard, the guy seems to be mentally fine. the attendant even said that the guy made his money doing manual jobs, and has never misbehaved or acted violently to the point that she feels comfortable with him. it is kind of unfair to judge the guy as mentally unstable because of the way he looks.

AFAIK there is no policy prohibiting persons who have mental disorders from placing their bets like everyone else. Personally, I have never seen a disturbed person come into a casino or bet shop but then again I have not gone to a physical casino in years. I think it is possible for someone like that to come into a bet shop and gamble without causing up drama but it’s a very difficult for that to happen in a casino. I doubt the security would let him past the doors. It will be bad for business as other players may not be comfortable.

It's because there are big time people that don't dress very well so that the suspicious from bad actors will be gone if they've got money or none. That's what they are doing and that's not going to draw attentions from those people that are just observing the premises and looking on who's got money and who are the ones that they can potentially eye for them to extort money or do something bad. You'll never know that the well dressed ones are also bad actors and that's why some dress codes are fine as long as it's not that bad at all or these people are just dressed simply, as long as it has no problem with the casino, they're good to go.

They are allowing it as long as they're not wearing vulgar dresses and they are still looking fine but just simple with their looks. IMHO, that's going to work perfectly when you've got a lot of money and you know it. But you're also careful going outside in any premises whether it's on the casinos or malls or anywhere you go. Just dress simply and let the people judge you by your looks but they don't know what's inside you. But on the other hand, we shouldn't really judge people by the way they dress.

Not until the said person does harm the others, that's the only time where they should be not allowed to enter the casino premises.

These casinos are not judging their customers at their cover therefore anyone can play there.

But if by some chance, that these persons cause an incident that involved other customers around, regardless if they are mentally unstable or not, these casinos will probably kicked out these people as their priority is comfortability and safety of their customers.

It was fishy for the understanding of the mentally unstable person,because the OP had discussed about the physical appearance of the gambler who do gambling regularly in the physical gambling.So as the gambling conducting person was comfortable with the gambler,he can able to play the game in the casino.The gambler should not get violent after the loss,they should keep some of the money as the backup to use during the gambling process and after the holding money was get into the loss in the gambling site.This was the hidden secret of the successful gamblers in the gambling site for huge period of time,many gamblers will not say this to new gamblers.

I don’t doubt you but what if this man is not mentally unstable but has turned poor from too much gambling? Well, for mentally unstable people, I think they shouldn’t be let to gamble because even if some people may say that it’s about luck after all, we need to consider that the amount you stake is quite a decision to make and you can’t just input any amount. So, how do you trust someone who is mentally unstable to make the right decision in such case. They just shouldn’t be allowed.

In my neighborhood there was also someone like this, he was depressed because he had lost a lot of money in gambling and even his family had thrown him out on the street, once he almost injured an officer at an offline casino in my neighborhood because he was prohibited from entering, from that incident, no one dares to stop him, he can't be thrown out, even the police can't arrest him.  Occasionally i also see someone who gives him a little capital for gambling. When he is invited to gamble, he will not hurt other people, this is the reason why we should not let gambling ruin our lives.  The worst level of gambling addiction is going crazy because of gambling.

The hope of getting lucky will always be there because they still often gamble so they will not spend their days gambling. They may use the money from donations to gamble because there will be people who feel sorry for them and will give them some money to buy food. But if they instead use the money to gamble, that is disrespectful to the people who already sympathize with them. But it's up to them with the money and we don't know for sure either.

And the security at the betting shop always allows that person to gamble so that he will continue returning when he wants to gamble. He may continue like that until he finally wins and if there is an update about that person's story, we will all be happy to know how the story continues.

I thought that if someone is mentally unstable, people will not donate anything to him directly, rather they may donate to his family or to the charitable organization, if any, who is taking care of him. So if some how he has direct access to the donation money, there is some serious flaw in the whole eco system that needs to be addressed.
We would not want the donation money to be wasted in this way.



The gambling shop cares more about the money they are getting from the gambler and they may not care of this health and mental status of the gambler. As long as he is depositing, they are happy with him. That's a sad reality but the truth about some of the physical gambling casinos.

Even though they gamble, I believe they should not be allowed to gamble. Because they can make bad decisions that could harm them financially, mentally unstable people do not have full control of themself. So, why on this earth they should be allowed to gamble? It's easy to manipulate them and cheat them which people are likely to do if they find out that the person they are playing with is mentally unstable. It's the house response to find out those people who is mentally unstable and restrict them from gambling.

If i own a physical gambling casinos, to be honest i may not allow such kind of people who are mentally challenged to come in and gamble, you cannot predict them and the kind of illness in them, if the loose a bet and engage in violence at the betting casino what will i do, they can be weird atimes in causing fight and distractions with other gamblers there and that alone may decrease the reputation some of my customers may have towards the casino when they discovered that a mental instable person is coming to gamble and cause trouble.

Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.

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Ethically speaking it is not acceptable in my opinion too, unless he has some kind of guidance or help, under the supervision of a legal curator or similar guardian figure. It is known that some people have special vulnerabilities towards addiction, and I think that the mentally impaired, in general (exceptions apart), conform a specially vulnerable collective.

Legally, it depends on each jurisdiction, although I think that nowadays most of them forbid the underage gambling, and by extension gambling by the mentally unstable.

it seems that things like this will only happen in gambling shops which do not have security or clear rules regarding who can play on their premises. because if that happened at a reputable casino, maybe the security or employees there would forbid him from gambling, because mentally unstable people shouldn't gamble and waste their money. apart from not being able to play well, they might also throw a tantrum or do something that could harm the casino, and that is why mentally unstable people should not be allowed to gamble.

Games of chance should be fun, not addicting. Giving money to charity that is then used for gambling is sad. I think this behavior shows disrespect for other people's kindness. Not only a matter of choice, but also of moral duty. It's also hard to feel safe at the betting shop. It is morally wrong and harmful to let a problem gambler keep doing it. They support a bad habit. Such things shouldn't happen because of rules. Finally, it's not a good idea to expect a "happy ending." It encourages the dangerous thought that gambling will work. Change the story and encourage safe gambling so that fun doesn't turn into an addiction.

The attendant is the one who should drive away what people think as a mentally unstable bettor because as long as he is not causing a panic or harming anyone he has all the rights and the privileges like all the bettors in the vicinity, I have also seen people betting in our local betting station but the other bettors just ignore him because he is minding his own, and he is not disturbing anyone.
Only a professional has the right to examine any person because what we see in a person does not reflect his true character is, people should understand others as long as he is not causing disturbances.

Maybe there are still people who will continue to donate money to mentally unstable people. At least people could still give food to that person. But to donate, we should channel it to charities that are used to dealing with this problem so that what we give can be distributed right on target.

Although gambling shops care more about their money, they should also be able to see the people who come to their shops. And if there are people who really intend to interfere with their business, they can refuse them before they come inside. But the case that happened was that the person had no intention of disturbing him but just wanted to gamble as usual and would leave after he finished gambling. This should be a good example for us where the person can leave after finishing gambling and not get angry because he lost.

Yes, it's like we fund their gambling so they can keep gambling. And it is a disguised fraud because they use charity to get money, and the money is used for gambling. Maintaining personal safety anywhere is a must, including in a betting shop, because it is a form of responsibility towards ourselves. We can expect a happy ending when we win, but the problem is that only a few gamblers can get it, while other gamblers will only experience defeat. And it is very painful for them because many of them use big money to bet.

That's not really a question you have to ask because the only right answer to that is that no, they're not allowed to gamble because they're going to be danger to themselves and to the people around them, we all know how frustrating gambling is and imagine if you're in the shoes of that mentally unstable person, you're probably going to think that they'll take their losses even harder which will definitely happen because they're not good at handling their emotions.

Are you like living in a dream world? Have you heard of the saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover"? Because as much as you want to believe that someone is good inside, no one's going to give you the time of the day if you're not impressive at first glance and that's the reality plus the time it takes to know a person fully is going to take a long time so they do cut corners and just do what they think is for the best. You're also contradictory with your statement, you're saying not to judge someone then agree that the officer will have to do what it takes to keep the others comfortable.

Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

A mentally unstable person does not bring anything good, they will always bring problems to everything, the more they focus on things that they should not handle, it is risky for anyone, first of all for the person who is like that because their control will not be 100%, the first thing is to know. What will become evident is that you can suffer the money to go away very quickly, and it can also happen that things when you try to be with someone accompanied, you will notice that anxiety can be one of the things that attack you, then this is not good, It is not viable and it is not safe, so things are difficult to turn out well, a person like that has to live with many rules, and if, in case he plays in a casino, he must allocate a balance willing to lose and that it be little, Because we don't know what actions you should have when betting because if you bet on in-all the same, all your money could go and that's not the idea, things must be well controlled, well played and all the pros and cons must be observed.

That shouldn't definitely cause him to be ambitious here. the effective way is to make him do something other than gambling. If he is married, it is very dangerous for his family. However, gambling, apart from games, can sometimes be a place of outlet for people who feel that their mentality has been damaged. Even though I can't completely prohibit it, it's still better not to do it for those whose mental condition is very bad. This affects his psychology and can even get worse.

There are few questions that will stands to answer this topic .

1st - He has money? if yes then why hinder them or bother them from betting?

2nd - Do they behave like Normal? if yes then why we care more? they have life and rights to do what they need .

3rd - Is there rules in casino that they are prohibiting mentally unstable people to bet?  gambling is a business in which they will accept all bettors as long as this bringing them Money .

I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.

Even the most stable minds are overwhelmed by the bright lights, chip clatter, excitement of a win, or misery of a loss. Gambling is entertainment, not bad. The key is responsible gaming. Today's casinos create betting restrictions and offer problem gambling solutions to promote this. Doesn't gambling represent life's uncertainties? Their lessons include risk assessment, pressured decision-making, and accepting results. If the environment is controlled and the person is psychologically healthy, isn't there a lesson about resilience and coping?

We live in an era where personal freedom is highly valued, but with freedom comes responsibility. Gambling can be dangerous for people with mental health issues. So, what if casinos implemented more robust screening processes? This difficult balance protects vulnerable people while maintaining personal liberty. Your idea of setting aside a little, disposable sum for gambling is awesome. This is about enjoying the game without financial worry. Sports betting, casinos, and other gambling may be fun with self-awareness and control. Shouldn't we regard gambling as a leisure activity that needs responsibility and self-awareness?

These children have seen how their parents often mistreat them, and they persist with what their parents do. It is true that children can also become gamblers because they often see their parents gambling, but if their children are raised well by their families, they will not be influenced by anything their parents do that is related to gambling. They can grow well and even change the situation and make their parents realize what they did was wrong. In the end, his parents realized that they had made a fatal mistake and regretted it while trying to cure his gambling addiction. It would be a happy ending for their family.

As long the guy in your story is well coordinated in rapporting with others and within the gambling axis aside his unkept dressing code I think he is as good as the other persons. My emotions goes to him that he should realize what he is doing so he doesn't empty his pocket for the sake of gambling and so also, I hope he also utilizes his winning funds as much better to his essential needs because I have come across of mental changed persons who doesn't see values in most valuables around them instead they take them as trash and let it be exposed to whom knows the values.

The only aspect a mental disabled persons should be prohibited is at when the metal disable persons does not acknowledge the potnetials of what the gambling board is and his inabilities to understand the reasons for gambling.
Aside that, I would urge the gambling attendants to help the mental disabled persons moderate and guides them from not gambling uncontrolably because it is assumed they don't know what they are doing at the moments of spending all they have (funds) in gambling untill they are in need to eat finances could resolve for them.

Many children learn from the suffering of their parents' gambling addiction and try to become established themselves. There are also many small boys and girls who become addicted to gambling after seeing their parents gambling. Here every parent must participate in gambling to keep their son or daughter safe. A parent should not gamble in front of their children because young children can get addicted to their parents' gambling.

And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

That makes these children stronger than their parents because they can find their own way to survive the harsh treatment of their parents towards them. In fact, some children can do many things that should make their parents proud, but their parents cannot see it, although some parents end up regretting their actions because they were rude to their children. It is children like these who should be imitated by their gambling parents because their children can be more mature than their parents. That is why if parents want to gamble, they must be able to distance themselves from their children so that their children do not see their parents gambling.

Exactly, if the person appears as normal and manage to enter the casino without any trace of mental issue, there's no way the security will manage to prevent them to go inside, the moment that they show their mental problem is the only time casino owner or the security can take action in preventing them to go inside, but without any sign they are still allow to play and enjoy.

And like what you mentioned, online casino have that edge, since the only way that you can play is to have the money and have that information to confirm your identity, after that you can fully utilize the services of the house.

If you do have some history that been made out on a certain venue or place then expect that you would really be getting banned but since we do know that there are tons of places on which you can gamble on then it wont really be  that an issue. It would be that normal that they will really be that allowing for those people who dont show any behavior fault on the time that they would be entering  the premises but when things turns out to be obvious or it did really happen then this is where you would really be pointed out on having some behavior problems on which you might be able to get
in into that place for now but in next time there's no way that you could really be able to enter the premises on which it would really be just that normal on having that way.

That's also my point. If you are already being tagged with behavioral issues, then at that time you will not be allowed to enter the premises. It gives the owner and all the people who are involved with the security not to allow you to prevent any issue from happening again. It's the right that the government or the licensure body provides to the casino to avoid any potential risk for the business.

But, on that side note, if there's no problem or anything that might harm the place, there should be no restrictions that should be made. The person has the money and has that ability to quit after playing without doing anything bad.

First, "casinos cant detect mental health issues at the door"? Imagine casinos offering mental health resources. I mean posters, brochures, and fast digital info points. Integrate it into casino culture, emphasizing support.

Online casinos authenticate identification and funds, but how about a cooling-off period? The technology temporarily blocks or mandates breaks if someone's gaming tendencies indicate problems. We must actively promote healthy gaming behaviors.

Community engagement is last. Online and offline casinos could benefit from a mental health-aware and friendly community. Perhaps forums, chat rooms, or on-site assistance. Building a caring community promotes a healthier, more fun gambling experience.

I don't think they can, nor should they. Casinos don't play the role of the psychologist; they're there to make money, not to advise users against gambling or introduce a cooling-off period. It's not the casino's issue that someone is addicted. On the contrary, they're basically taking advantage of people's weaknesses to profit, that's why the majority loses money, because they can't control themselves. As long as someone is paying and isn't causing issues to the staff or other attendants, they should be left alone to mind their own business. There's no way to prohibit specific people unless they've been banned from the premises; it's unethical and could also be considered racist and discriminating.

Without a doubt, the gaming business covers large Boundaries and yes, it is essential to see gaming as a prevailing need to do things well to have fun and we are clear about some points, only that sometimes a casino can get into trouble with a type of people who are not mentally well, if one of these people restricts themselves, many things would begin to fall on them, it would be seen as discrimination, now currently there are many things that are being done to avoid this type of things, there is much more defense for a casino to say that they let him play so as not to discriminate that they did not let him play because he was Mentally not good or suitable, because in the casino things cannot be done like that, neither in the casino nor anywhere, now things are very dedicated in this type of things, I think you should take great care of these types of things.

A person is known to be mentally weak but for some he/she passes as someone normal, no one is a psychologist so he/she is acting and selling or Paying attention to what a person is like, whether he/she has problems or not, this is something that everyone is already responsible, a person must have someone by their side so that they do not do these types of things , or Irresponsibly , it is like the chaos of addictions , a casino is not responsible for the addictions, the addictions we as players are the ones totally responsible for fall into an Addiction , then this applies to this type of people , many times we can be talking to someone and we can assume that they are a normal person , but if they have something, they don't notice it , because we don't know or are interested in studying some humans , I did study my wife, because I wanted to know Everything about her well , and I gave her many tests and everything was fine, but that's another thing , lol, but basically people who are like that with those types of Problems have to have a degree of responsibility much higher than that of a person who is much more mentally stable.

The mentally unstable people can’t make the win in the gambling site,because they are mentally unstable.They can’t able to take the correct decision and how they can do the right betting in the gambling site.Actually the fact is they never win with the unstable mind,they need of medical treatment and care.So the gambling is the game for the people with sound mental condition.The physical appearance may not affect the game,many of my friends who working in the gambling industry had said more stories about the physical appearance of the gamblers.


The gambler with more temptation will not fit for the gambling industry,because fighting with the gambling site after a loss is no use.Instead improve your game and the possibility for the winning will increase in the gambling.Many of my friends made the money only by changing their view of the gambling and improved their skills towards the game.Because the gambling site or offline gambling which was legit will not scam you,it may happen because of your mistake.

How do you define someone as mentally unstable? Just because someone might be suffering from mental illness doesn't mean they can't decide for themselves. I find your statement a little overexaggerated. You claim that gambling is for mentally sound people when a large percentage, if not the largest, is addicted and blows away their money. We've seen quite a few users here ranting about how they bet everything and lost it. With that being said, you're claiming that a large percentage of gamblers, including those on the forum, are mentally unstable, right? Because that's what you're basically saying.

Thus, you may need to reconsider your definition of mental illnesses and who's unstable or not.

What? No! Mental condition is a serious issue and as well as we don't allow kids to drink alcohol and smoke we shouldn't allow mentally unstable people to gamble. How can they "know how to control it", what are you talking about? Only adults in their right mind should be allowed to gamble, there can't be two opinions about it.

There is a saying, don't judge a book by its cover. so you see, what you see does not necessarily reflect what you actually think. so, remember that thinking like that is not true. personally, I have encountered many characteristics of people like what you said in this thread. although not in the exact situation and conditions as you say, I mean not like the case we are discussing. A person can style according to what he wants, even though he looks like he has mental problems. but we never know for sure, especially since the man acted like a normal person. unless you really know the person. in this thread, you say, the gambling shop claims that he is a regular customer and he has never behaved badly.

My question is, what should we debate with this person, isn't he/she has the right to what he/she wants? in fact, many people have mental disorders. even people like us who look neat, but have personality problems. many also have another side with mental problems, especially those related to gambling. IMO, referring to what you said, it seems there is no written obligation for the shop to ban it because of its appearance problem. on the contrary, your moral obligations will be questioned first, by welcoming them well and then asking about several things. if winning doesn't indicate a mental problem, why ban someone. physical appearance does not determine a person's identity, in fact we cannot judge based only on our eyes. the problem is different, if this man comes to a top casino which requires its customers to dress appropriately and in accordance with the regulations implemented by the casino. if it's just a gambling shop and the person is able and willing to risk his money, then that's his right. as long as it's not disturbing, as long as it doesn't violate the rules, everything is fine.

Everyone is free to gamble in any casino, as long as they don't disturb other gamblers despite having problems mentally. Some cases of people with mental illness cause violence, misbehaving, etc. which is understandable but if they mess around the physical gambling houses then probably they could be kicked out. But there's no such thing that they would be in jail for having an illness and gambling, they are also people who want to have entertainment they don't want to be at the hospital just to cure themselves I think you are expecting. Even the attendant is comfortable with him cause his mental health doesn't affect anyone but himself, plus his appearance doesn't have anything to do with his illness as well, if there's a person with dirty clothes and unkept hair should we assume that person has a mental disorder? Never judge someone based on their appearance and never assume their health state unless you are informed.

This is a tricky one but I think the gambling assistant has said it all, that he's harmless and that's what you should go with. The dude is a fully grown man, he doesn't steal to gamble, he takes care of himself by doing odd jobs. So as long as he appears okay, does what every normal person does whenever he's in the gambling shop, then he should be allowed to stake his bet and leave. If at any point anything changes, then he should be stopped.

Not really, because mentally unstable people tend not to think about whether they win or lose. They want to gamble without thinking about those two things and whatever results they receive, they may be more accepting of it than gamblers who gamble frequently. Maybe they can't make the right decisions like other gamblers, but they gamble casually and enjoy every moment. We can see what they do every day without burden, even though life is very difficult for other people and we need to think of ways to overcome it. But indeed, gambling is a game for people with a healthy and stable mentality so that they will not disturb other people when they lose. But from the story, the person with mental disorders did not bother other people around him so no one felt disturbed by his presence, even the officers allowed him to gamble at the casino.

If he is a new person in the gambling environment or means just coming to gamble with that kind of appearance then it is clear that it is only natural that a lot of speculation arises that leads to suspicion, but if basically he is one of the gamblers who can be said to have subscribed to the casino and without ever doing any mess or damage that can harm the casino or other people then obviously there is no problem with him, and what is different may be in terms of appearance, although it can be very suspicious but it doesn't matter if there is absolutely no bad behavior that he has experienced.

On the other hand, it is clear according to the information that he acted like other gamblers who came with money as a condition for getting involved in gambling even though he had to work odd jobs just to get money to gamble, it doesn't matter because it's his desire and maybe gambling is one of the activities he enjoys. So if he is not doing anything wrong at all then there is no problem and the guards can serve him like serving other visitors but as you said if at any time there is a change in his behavior that can harm others then obviously it must be stopped.

But in reality he is a regular customer at the casino so people who are used to visiting the casino are already used to his presence to gamble. Perhaps the ones who feel strange are people who have just visited the casino and happen to meet this person speculating various kinds and thinking if the person is not a normal person, for us seeing a person with a disheveled appearance will definitely feel strange about that person but we don't know for sure whether that person really has a mental disorder because basically people are affected by mental disorders that exist in his mind is a little complicated and could cause chaos while the person just comes and gambles and doesn't cause any reaction, my opinion he just needs entertainment and gambling is a game he likes.

The casino doesn't care where it gets the money from because the most important thing is that it comes with the condition of money for gambling so that the workers there still accept it happily because they get regular customers who come to their workplace every day and every casino is certainly also happy to get regular customers if they are customers does not bother other gamblers and does not cause chaos.

Well yes, what you say is quite reasonable that those who will be suspicious are new visitors to the casino so they will certainly pay significant attention to the person who looks strange, and at the same time there may be some other visitors who have subscribed to the casino telling some new visitors that the person is a gambler like usual who often comes there but with a different and strange appearance.

Obviously the casino will not ask about the money they are carrying or mean as you say about where they can get the money to gamble, certainly if you come to the casino with money then you can get involved in some bets like other visitors do, especially if he has good behavior and character.

i think this makes no sense at all because the attendant said that he behave right and there is no lack of respect or any misbehavior.
they are allowed to gamble if they are not misbehaving with their staff or other people who are playing there like ladies or old people.
I have seen many people who misbehave when they lose it all. those people needs to take action against them not people who like you are mentioning.

I like your explanation that he should be stopped if there are any signs of misbehaviour. But I am really scared at this point because I have seen some mentally unstable people react in a violent manner that leads to serious injuries to some people. You might think they behave normally or are harmless but I have observed that mental illnesses can increase if the sufferer does not have access to proper medical attention.  As much as everyone is free to gamble, such people have to be properly observed because there might be a sudden change in their behaviour. The management of the gambling houses or casinos should give more priority to the safety of gamblers than profit.

I understand what you mean but that is a slippery slope, if we begin to restrict people just for the way they look or because they are a little bit unconventional on their behavior then where does this stop? And at the same time this will mean that casinos will transform themselves from just a business offering some games for the entertainment of the population, to an institution that has to psychologically evaluate their customers and single them out if necessary, and if every single business had to do the same, very quickly we will have many businesses unable to deal with that extra load.

If the office of the gambling platform has it in their policy and it is approved by the authorities then they can implement it, It is a legal obligation but not a moral obligation, and it's unethical, it takes a professional physician to check if the bettor is physically fit to be in the vicinity but as long as he is harmless and he is minding his own business then there's no reason to bar him from betting.
He has the same rights like everyone else unless the state deem him not fit to bet.

The management of the gambling house should give more priority to the safety of gamblers than profit. Sadly, the casinos would always prioritize profits than anything else and in the scenario you mentioned, would continue to allow the mentally unstable man to play as long as he doesn’t disturb others from doing same.
They need profits and would allow anyone that is reasonable enough and has money to play. That’s they way with profit oriented organizations like these. They couldn’t care less on who’s handing over the money as long as the money is handed over.

In my own opinion, I'll say having mentally unstable people gambling in your casino would only reduce the reputation of the casino. There are places were those kind of persons should play, but gambling is a no go area, except he was just on a disguise. I can't even imagine walking into a casino with a mentally unstable person. That story only tells that the attendant is heartless, for him to allow such person enter and make a bet, is only shows that that attendant is capable of promoting irresponsible gambling.

individuals must be free to choose, even those who you consider to be 'unstable.' casinos should have facilities for wellness check and exclusion in any case.

wellness check? that i won't expect on any gambling site,. self exclusion that is a common feature you can find. however, do remember that it is still on the gambler"s final decision  to alter his lifestyle.

bottomline, the gambler himself is the final straw on how he will walk his journey of life. as it is his own volition to do what's right for his life, it is his own will if he would want to change for the betterment of life or not.

Agree. People with unstable mental must be excluded from playing in casinos. they potentially cause riots if they get big losses. I think the security guard of casino mustn't allowed the unstable mental people to come in the casinos. How if they brother other gamblers?  Reputable casinos must have some rules related to the age and mental health of eligible visitors. The casinos or gambling home must be aware to keep their reputation as a comfortable place to gamble.  :)

The self-exclusion is a self-decision, only a "stable" individual can hit that button when he thinks that it's the right time, while the other won't do it for their "own-good" until it's incurable already that damages up to selling their properties, bankruptsy, etc.

Casino is not meant for everyone, we only become very careful when we start losing our initial deposits but become confident when we have money in our pocket. Irresponsible gambling exists only when a gambler doesn't stand or hold good opportunity of gambling, instead it continue to lose points and confidence, thereby leading to addiction and most of these gamblers are very strict. Not agreeable, why should we allow these gamblers to place wagers on games, knowing fully they're not in their right or balance state to gamble.

Realistically speaking, I don't think there's any gambling company that'll want to allow a mentally unstable person use their offline platform to gamble because it'll definitely spoil the reputation of such gambling company as many will see it as inhumane for such kind of act. However, I don't think it'll be easy to regulate the mental state of individuals before they can gamble on a gambling sites and that's why I think that even when it's condemnable for mentally unstable people to gamble, there's every possiblity that they are still involved in gambling regardless of whatever anyone has to say about them.

When it comes to online gambling, the possibility of gambling engagements by persons who shouldn't even be allowed to engage in gambling are very high.

Their reputation may be in danger, but isnt morality more important? I believe that online and offline gambling providers must establish strong systems to protect vulnerable people, especially those with mental health difficulties. Not simply reputation, but ethics.

Online, the challenge grows. I believe online gambling regulation is harder but not impossible. Technology allows anonymous gambling but can also reveal abnormal gambling tendencies, which may indicate mental illness. Why dont more firms invest in these technologies? This is a must if we want responsible gambling.

Education and awareness important. I recommend proactive education about dangers and signs of harmful gambling habits. Online platforms could require educational modules before offering gambling services. Its unconventional, but it might revolutionize healthy gambling. We must change the focus from avoiding bad headlines to helping gamblers.

As long it would be crossing about humanitarian rights then for sure it would really be creating that kind of problem on which same as you said that it would really be tarnishing their reputation and this is something that they dont really want because we do know that if the masses or the people would really be making out such reaction then pretty sure it would really be bringing out that huge issue into the said platform or company on which it isnt really that good in anyway. This is why they would really be allowing those people to play and wont really be caring about their mental or whatsoever as long they arent that harming someone
then it should really be just that fine.

Sometimes people are really just that too judgmental on things specially into those people who do look odd but eventually they arent really doing something for them to be prohibited in doing something.
People do usually put up themselves into harm because of wrong assumptions.

If I'm not mistaken, several countries have rehabilitation homes for gambling addicts, as far as I know there are special places for those who are mentally unstable, they are specially handled by neurological and mental specialists, legally those who are addicted have special rehabilitation to treat it.

But ethically there is no law that prohibits them from gambling, generally everyone who is involved in gambling is based on their own wishes and desires, there is no law to prohibit it, except: they come and are taken by the family, because the user's mental state is no longer stable in everyday life, maybe they need a little rehabilitation or serious treatment for their recovery.

For me I don't see anything wrong with that. Just that some people looks unkept as if they are mad where as they are not . Some times it might be a person working in a nearby house that just decided to come and book a game. although  People who are psycological deraged can also play gamble if the psycological effect is not much.

What really matters is your composure. When ever such person who loks tattered comes to the betting Shop, there is a need for brain test, by asking the person some questions, if not answerd in a resiprocative manner I think there is no need for him to be allowed.

If for example they are really detected to have a mental disorder or some other kind of disease that can create chaos then obviously I agree with your idea that they should be immediately removed from the casino area because I think it is very likely that they will do some unexpected actions that can certainly disturb the visitors who are enjoying gambling. On the other hand I think the casino officers will also not be silent, they will definitely take immediate action to minimize so that unwanted events do not occur.

But on the other hand I think the officers must also have a little expertise in distinguishing someone whether he really has a mental disorder or not, because obviously if we only look in terms of appearance then what about people who look shabby but have very good behavior and responsibility like the person referred to by the OP? That is very possible, and it is also very possible that one of the officers is wrong in identifying if there is one person who looks like that. I think for regulatory issues most casinos must have implemented it especially in terms of money that is a requirement to be able to engage in gambling.

I think that the gaming house staff does not have such a right. Because this girl who takes bets is not a doctor, she is not a psychiatrist and cannot diagnose a person. By what criteria is he not okay? Because he is not dressed very well. This is a subjective opinion, maybe you or I won’t like it, but another person may not like it. From the point of view of the establishment, it is not beneficial for the owners to refuse to accept bets. On the contrary, it is probably better for them if the person is very passionate and does not control himself very well.
In general, my opinion is that the staff cannot assess a person’s psychological health; a doctor can do this. But as far as I know, the doctor cannot forbid the patient to play

Just as I said earlier, there is no way I will be comfortably walking into a casino hall with a mentally unstable person. If that happens, it psychologically means I have accepted that we are even. Since the person is mentally unstable, what are the odds that he might not be gambling irresponsibly, or stealing just to gamble. If I'm in the shoes of the attendant, I'll just quite letting the mentally unstable man to gamble. The major reason we where told to gamble only when we are above the age of 18 is because, at that stage of our lives we are now mature enough to know when to say yes and no without guidance or direction from anyone, and we are responsible for our actions. But in the case of the mentally unstable person, it seems the attendant was just taking advantage over him, because with that condition, he cannot fully make a responsible decision.

It's not good, most of gambling addicts have no brains, so the casinos won't able to make as much as they can. But that depends on the questions, if you only ask like who's the president in US or 5 years old math like 10+10, anyone can answer that.

Someone who can answer your questions aren't always have stable mental and vice versa.

But would the casino prevent them from playing?  I doubt that imo especially online, when they see a user register, it only means this user can read and write. and that's enough to let them register. Once he deposits coins, then he is good to bet.

Mentally unstable is broader. A lonely person and I mean a lonely sad person shouldn't be allowed to gamble as well because it wouldn't be profitable for him for it's a sure loss for him.

for casinos, I think the most important thing at stake is money. not leaves. and it proves that people who come to the casino to gamble at least have money to gamble with. and that is reason enough for anyone who wants to play and bet to come to the casino.
unless the gambler's behavior is disruptive. it could be prohibited by the casino. like body odor is very annoying, it can be detrimental to the casino if other customers are disturbed. but if it was the case that he came to bet and then left, perhaps no other customer would be harmed. especially if you are used to seeing it like that.

However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

You are a little naive.
Let's say the staff refused to serve him, and the next day the company received a multimillion-dollar lawsuit for discrimination against their client (who, according to documents, is completely healthy). In many countries such a claim will be satisfied. How do you see this situation now? What seems “obvious” to you, in fact, according to the documents, may not be what it seems to you because either by accident or on purpose someone is trying to mislead you (so that, for example, they can later get money from you in court).

If I'm the attendants at the gambling shop, my guilt will not allow me to attend to the customer because the description says everything about him. But if I'm to follow the rules of the shop, I think I have every right to serve everybody equally because another though that will come to mind my mind is that a right person with a disable brain will come to gambling shop to play, he must have the idea to be that bold come and play, it's even odd for mentally challenged person to what to bets, they will likey beg for money to eat than say they want to bet.

In addition, if he has been playing and doesn't show any sign that he is unstable, even with his cloth and ways of appearance and understanding gambling, I will live him to do what he want to do in the shop. Who knows if that's what make him a happy person. You never can tell, people that we think are mad possesses some strange abilities, don't be shocked if he win one day from gambling.

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

In the first place, gamblers have been warned about the emotional implications of gambling and the advise is that they gamble when they feel happier or just for the fun rather than gambling to win inorder to pay debts or gambling with borrowed funds.

Now, why should a mentally unstable person be allowed to gamble. I would assume that such persons may have paid a visit to the psychiatrist or counselor on several occasions and perhaps if gambling was a contributing factor to their unstable mind, they would have been advised against it because it could cause a trigger of emotions that is unhealthy to witness.

agree with this  mate every coin has two sides and it's represents the outcome of an gambling play so if we are lucky enough then we got a good outcome which is we will win. But if we are not just too lucky then we can not say that we will win everytime we put our bet. Anyways just like a coin gamblers must be more vigilant and wise cause once  a gambler are not just lucky then they must stop for a while and rest then after a few days or weeks go to gamble again.

People who are mentally unstable will never bother anyone anywhere when they are all friendly with them and someone who is mentally unstable will only commit an act of violence or something else when their emotions escalate.
Moreover, there are only one or two people who experience mental disorders or are mentally unstable due to depression who engage in gambling activities.
All of this is also because from the beginning or for long time he was gambler and it would be very impossible if people like this stayed longer in the casino because they would not feel comfortable in crowded places.
I sure that if he hadn't gambled often at the casino in the first place then it would be impossible for the casino staff to let him in, just as the OP said that the casino staff said that the person was regular customer there who always gambled.
From what happened, it seemed like he had come into the casino just to bet and then left the casino and it seemed like there had never been any problems.
I sure something similar would happen in any casino when there are the same people in the casino environment.

If I read the statement that the staff said, their regular customers are not being harmed, which means that before, their customers did not dress like that. Maybe their customer just had a big problem, and that's why it happened.

But even so, it is right to treat their customers equally, whether they are rich or poor, whether they look like beggars or not; they should still be treated the same. That is the right way to treat gamblers or clients.

Of course we don't have the right to prohibit people who are not very mentally stable from carrying out gambling activities because we don't know what someone is going through and it could be that as you said, that person may need entertainment or calm and maybe that's the only hope. them to keep their mental stability stable and each person must have their own way of dealing with mental stability, if the person might disturb other gamblers of course the shop will kick him out and not allow him to gamble there but because the gambler can still control himself and not disturb him then it is it's not a problem either for other gamblers or the shop.

Mental instability and disruptive behavior in public spaces like casinos are oversimplified. Mental health varies, and many people attend casinos without issue. We risk a slippery slope by linking mental instability to public misbehavior. We must avoid stereotyping delicate themes and approach them with sensitivity

It's hard to prove a direct link between gambling and mental health. Compulsive gambling can indicate mental health difficulties, but not always. Many people bet for enjoyment without mental illness. Casinos are entertainment venues, not mental health clinics. In different settings like casinos, mental health is complex and shouldn't be reduced to cause-and-effect scenarios

Yeah, you nailed it bro, some people's mental challenges are occasional and when they're not having the crises, they act very normal and behave same. He is even normal enough to make his own money and game with personal funds. With the shop attendants testimony about the man's behavior, its very obvious the man is even more stable than some people that come into the betting houses and constitute various forms of nuisance and we still feel they're normal.

Some people who are drug addicts sometimes looks like  street mad people when they appear in rags and look unkempt. Like you stated, he's of age and exhibits good behavior, so, I don't see anything that should disqualify him from doing what makes him happy.

Is there a law stopping mentally unstable people from gambling ? Is there a law stopping people who are not minors from gambling?
Except there's a law against it in your region for non underage, nobody should stop them from gambling.
It becomes a problem if that person has an individual law against him on gambling. Like people who have an anti gambling law where they're not allowed to gamble in any casino (offline or online) to avoid gambling addiction.
In this case, it's even the addict that will press charges on the casino if they allow him gamble. The casino can press charges if they refuse to gamble for that individual but the person finds a way to fool the casino into allowing him.

I humbly submit that any person that has a mental disorder should definitely avoid activities that can potentially worsen their condition.

Like what I have said before, gambling is a game of chance. It requires a person to have the necessary resource and rationalize thinking before they can attempt to do it due to its addictive element. Assuming that a mentally disabled person, in which his mental resources are impaired, attempts to gamble there is a high probability that it can spiral out of control potentially causing a massive landslide to both their finances and condition.


I do not think so. A mentally disabled person has their mental faculties impaired due to their condition. They may see something that is abnormal to be normal and even the other way around. Without any guidance or help from a friend or family member, their situation can potentially worsen.

From the story, I doubt that he's a completely mentally unstable person. It's clear to me that this person is still on his usual self and not even behaving strangely, as the attendant also mentioned. This person also knows how to associate with other gamblers there and not do anything to bring trouble to all people on the casino's premises.

To answer the question now, if mentally unstable are allowed to gamble, of course they are allowed. That's their free will. If they know what they are doing, why should we stop them? And who has the authority to not allow these type of people to gamble? Not unless the casino establishment will implement such rules on their casino.

Yes, this is true, anyone who comes to bring money to a gambling house can be called a customer so they no longer have to differentiate between rich and poor because everyone has the same goal of gambling, there is nothing different about the two, after all, it's just mentally unstable, isn't it? will make people feel afraid of him as long as he gambles calmly like other gamblers who gamble calmly everything is fine.

If I was in a gambling house and saw someone who was mentally unstable like that I would invite him to play next to me. There was no problem with that either because he brought money to gamble. Anyone has the right to gamble and the gambling house also has the right to facilitate those who play. gambling there so that there is no favoritism towards others, everything must be special.

That does not mean that a person with dirty clothes, unkempt hearing, and a long beard is a mentally unstable person. He may be a more stable person than the people who gambled in the casino. If you look at the people who gamble in the casino, if they lose, they will scream to vent their frustration or when they win, they will also express their joy beyond their limits. Wouldn't that disturb other people who are also enjoying their time gambling?

Meanwhile, the person you think is mentally unstable will not react in any way, whether he wins or loses, and will immediately leave the machine without disturbing other people. If that's the case, who is mentally unstable? Just my 2 cents ;D

Of course, the casino staff will not allow the person to gamble at the casino if he has not been gambling at the casino for a long time. He would even be thrown out before he entered the casino because he could potentially disturb other gamblers, so the casino staff would prevent him from entering. But because he had often gambled at the casino for a long time and had no history of disturbing other gamblers who also gambled, the casino staff allowed him to gamble. But I'm sure the casino staff will always keep an eye on him and make sure he really doesn't disturb other gamblers as usual. Perhaps in other casinos, there are people like that, and maybe the response from the casino staff will be different from what that person experienced.

From your explanation, nothing makes that man mentally unstable since he's well behaved, earn an income and coordinates himself, so I don't see any mental instability in him regardless of how roughly dressed he is, some persons even mechanics and painters and some other people that does jobs that stains their clothes normally go to gambling offices dressed in awkward manner but that doesn't mean they should be regarded as mentally unstable because the reasons why most of them are dressed roughly to gambling halls is because their jobs don't give them the space to dress properly and come to play gambling except if they ain't working at that particular day then they might decide to dress well.

Just the same, as long as he is not bringing any harm it's okay seeing him playing, for sure if he's bringing money and there's no problem with how he behaves during his stay, he will not be bothered and he will be allow to keep playing and enjoying, but the time that he show any sign of behavioral issue, that might be the time that the casino will take some actions to make sure that there's no harm that will happen, either to him or any other people inside the casino, the owner also needs to protect their business.

Discovering who is mentally ill or not, is not an easy task. Lots of gamblers are mentally disordered people, not just the addicts. Although the government are looking at helping addicts out of their problem gambling, which is the primary aim of the health care centers in the developed countries where gambling is legalized. Yet, reaching out to the mentally ill people is quite difficult, as not every body's illness is obvious or noticeable by the crowd. So, in the case of people like the man in Op's narration, they are not mainly mentally unstable, it could be he's not well dressed because of the type of work he does. Being mentally unstable doesn't mean the person needs to look for other people's trouble. Sometimes they only face the trouble of mentally illness when they're alone in their room. It occurs in different ways that's why the government may not be able to execute properly this type of rule on gambling activities.

that makes sense, and indeed the casino company doesn't seem to mind that, as long as he has money and comes to the casino to gamble it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't disturb the comfort of other people around him, because in my opinion what the casino is looking for is profit so who does If you have money then you are allowed to gamble, unless they don't have money and are mentally unhealthy, maybe it will be prohibited by the casino. because as you said, it could be that they gamble because they need entertainment, they want to have fun, and also the way each person handles their mental stability is different.
Someone who has money will be allowed to enter and gamble, but perhaps with the caveat that they don't disturb the comfort of other people in the casino, if they do disturb them they will also be expelled by the casino. and if other people don't feel disturbed they won't mind unless there are lots of complaints from other gamblers about people who are mentally unstable, it's possible that the casino will expel them because it's impossible for the casino to want to lose a lot of customers or visitors because of one person who doesn't make them comfortable gambling.

The casino was the old man luck in many countries,because the game may give you maximum profit as compared to the sports bet.Because the result of the sports betting is win or loss.But the casino will give the knowledge of the prediction to the next game,many people had loss 10k in the casino game and recovered more than the losses.Such things was only happen in the casino games in the gambling sites compared to the sports betting.The gamblers who had the technical skills of the sports like soccer should not play the single match in the casino,because it is the waste of the time for the sports betting person on casino games.

In that sense you are completely right, because in itself, sometimes it is difficult to understand who may be mentally unstable, but it is something that we should notice on occasions , I for example , am not very Observant, but there are people who are, and in a casino that is Physical , because many observers must do it , let's see how everything goes, it is normal, but in the case that new things are done, if they have more security Cameras they can determine it, but what excuse does someone get out of? a casino? by telling him that he is mentally unstable? What if the person Reports this and a worse problem Arises ? Because there are organizations that say they have lesser capabilities, because that is very delicate and the casino is not going to talk to people so that they can make a bad move like that. I have always thought that as a Player you should always focus on what they have , And how they do their things, everyone has their own way of seeing the game, and we are people who basically could have a lot to do and Avoid Conflict with people like that.

I say that if a person from this group doesn't mess with me , I'm not going to get in trouble for removing it or in any way Reporting something because if he does , he violates the normal rules of Civility , well, who am I to do it? This is something that I have always determined to do for any field, I look for the best and to do Anything as best as possible it is necessary to be able to establish something so that they can generate Improvements for the casino, if there are people with Special abilities it is necessary that they go to a casino with a companion and if he is not, then the casino simply has the obligation to observe his behavior very well, of course this does not include his way of playing , gambling or something like that , because they are delicate things , it is not the only thing It should be done in this case , because it is something that should not be controlled , each person is Responsible for their Actions.

We do what we think is possible and leave the activities that will implicate us. Constant practice and acknowledgement of the system, a gambler will observe things will gradually fall in place. I've watch and knotted quite significant in the system, but as we all know, this things doesn't last and I'm already getting worried because man needs steady flow of cash and we ought to be creating different sources of income to stay stable. Gambling is only for those in their balance mental state and not those that finds it difficult to concentrate due to the mentally unstable manner.

If the result of sports betting is win or lose then is casino gambling any different? I think it remains the same.
Casino gambling will ultimately result in winning or losing, even though we all know that the big possibility is that you will lose, and in my opinion in casino gambling there is no accurate prediction of winning, because in my opinion casino gambling only relies on luck to a large extent. . Many of them gamble at casinos using tricks or strategies they get from the staff or the casino site they play at, but in my opinion this doesn't guarantee that it will be easy to win.

In my opinion, all gambling is the same, in the end it will only end in winning or losing, and the hope of all gamblers is to win, because winning can make them happy, but sometimes the victory they get also makes them forget themselves which results in a gambling addiction. , and even though they are mentally unstable, that doesn't stop them from becoming addicted, because they also gamble even though they have a bad mentality.

maybe if they don't do anything bad like disturbing other people's comfort in a physical casino they won't get into trouble but on the other hand, if they gamble by disturbing other people's comfort, they will kick them out, because the casino also monitors anyone who is suspicious even if it's directly from their eyes or by using CCTV, because of course the casino has prepared high security so it is impossible for them to do anything that will harm the casino That's good, because in my opinion there is no need to look for problems,  rather than looking for existing problems that can be detrimental to ourselves.

with the security that a casino has, especially a physical casino of course in my opinion there will be parties who work as security where they are tasked with securing the situation and if there are indeed suspicious people then they have to pay attention to that and it is true as you say everyone is responsible for their actions. and this is as it should be I mean the actions we take ourselves of course we have to be responsible for.

If they can think straight and still make the ones they use in gambling by their self  then I don’t see any reason why they should not be allowed to gamble, who knows what they are passing through up their and gambling is just a way they use in letting them out, unless they posse some kind of trait to others who is gambling in that shop they should be allowed to gamble just like other customers who are also gambling in they place it’s as simple as that.

Most of them self might even be good in what they do and might not be completely unstable but some kind of situation which they might have been through kept them in that condition which it they can win a large amount of money from gambling they might end this their dirty lift they leave which makes people see them as someone who is unstable mentally.

The world is free for people to participate in any game that pleases them, but people are only moderated not to fail the society. Because whatever decision we choose to take, affects us, our family and the society. So, if a person isn't harming people close to him, I don't think he's taken any wrong decision. Like in the situation of the man in Op's thread. If he's mentally unstable and causes discomfort to his loved ones, he should be restricted from gambling. Since the attendant doesn't bother about the man's presence and his family doesn't complain. No need to bother about his gambling well-being. He could as well be getting things wrong, if he sees gambling as a means of earning a second income. Gambling isn't a side hustle, because it's not certain what the outcome of our game would  become. A lot of people are mentally unstable, and the casino will find it very difficult to distinguish between who is problematic or not. That will be a hard task to restrict mentally unstable people from using the casino.

I wouldn't say the gambler mentioned by the OP is total insane he may be partially mentally unstable if he can place his bet without any input from anyone and knows the right thing to do without being guided notwithstanding his dressing that shouldn't use as a yardstick to label him as mentally unstable, meanwhile it can be difficult to allow someone who is totally mentally unstable to gamble of course we knew the nature of some of them they can be violent which gambling shop would allow a violent gambler to their shop? Absolutely none such type of people who exhibit that character wouldn't near a gambling or betting shop to gamble infact shop owners wouldn't tolerate such the fact that the person mentioned by the OP conducted himself well means he is mentally sound.

Maybe it not or could be yes im not sure about it. If a person can understand the Strategy and the playing click of a beting sector then the person can play easyly. You are saying mentally unstable person maybe not. Becose the person don't understand the Strategy and can't remember what he have to do at the situation or not. It the person mentality unstable but he know that and know how to play then it is possible but an unstable person how remember the strategy of gambling is it possible ?

It's tricky deciding if someone with mental health condition can win at gambling.  I mean, if they get the rules and can think straight, maybe they'd make bank.  It's mostly about luck anyway.  But if their condition messes with focusing, memory or reasonable choices, they'd probably lose their shirt. 

I knew this guy who had anxiety bad and  get the shakes something awful when he played poker.  But he read a ton of books on tells and odds and everything.  For a while he cleaned up.  Then he lost it all in one bad night.  So I guess it depends.

Yes, maybe they gamble based on what they remember. Sometimes, people who are mentally unstable can gamble like other people because perhaps they can think about the strategy. But it will come back to each person because anything can happen, and we don't know the actual situation and are just guessing. Surely, that person has often gambled at the casino, and it could be that he only plays the same gambling game because it makes it easier for him to gamble. So he doesn't need to make a lot of strategy and just plays based on what he can afford. And it's not because he's dressed shabbily that we can think the person is mentally unstable.

I have said what you said before and indeed almost the majority of people who reply here definitely have the same thought that as long as mentally unstable people don't disturb other people when gambling, it doesn't matter, after all, the person also pays and takes money to the casino or at least it's as if buying food with real money and not scaring other people. but if the gambler is under mental pressure, even though he is carrying money and does not disturb other people, it makes other people uncomfortable, it seems like the casino should give them their own seat or send them away in a subtle way so as not to scare other gamblers.

however, I slightly disagree with your opinion about the most important thing being that casinos only need money. even though casinos need income from customers or gamblers, they also have a responsibility to overcome any problems that exist. If a gambler who is mentally unstable comes to the casino wearing clothes that are not suitable for use, it will definitely make other gamblers uncomfortable so the casino is obliged to give a warning fine or lend more decent used clothes so that the conditions in the casino are safe and comfortable.

Good point and with a situation like this he will just continue repeating what he thinks that's easy for him to play and remember,  as long as he have the money to use and he is playing the same way a normal person is playing the game, there's should be no discrimination that needs to apply,  he just like a normal person who also wanted to enjoy, not unless he creates issue with his mental attitude that might harm the business or the people that around him, but as long as there are none better to let him enjoy as normal person do.

I want to agree with you in that if the "mentally unstable" person isn't at any point in cause of them playing the game harm anybody then they shouldn't be considered not worthy of gambling because at that point they aren't a threat to any one neither are they hurting anyone and there's no restrain from the government of the casino.

There are various forms of instability when it has to do with mental illness and such such should be treated with such reference because some may be temporary and the others are permanent, the temporary ones can actually still gamble regardless of their challenge at the moment so they shouldn't except in chronic and severe cases they the mentally challenged is now becoming a threat to the casinos and other people around them then immediate actions of restrictions should be placed on such a person.

From the explanation of the op I think this whole thing happened in a betting shop because from my personal experience, I have seen different kinds of people who walk in and out of a popular betting shop in my region namely bet9ja and betking to place their bets. The other day I came across a man who I think was mentally unstable giving out coupon numbers for people to go and bet and I was wondering why people believed him maybe because he wasn't totally mad. You are right and I agree with you that once people around can interact and converse with anyone that is mentally unstable i think it's not a bad thing forcthem to have access to gamble but once they become violent I doubt if they will be allowed to have access to gamble because people will always not stay when he's around.

At least, that's what people think because playing the same gambling game before it won't make it difficult for them to play it. He also didn't need to press a lot of buttons or anything else and just followed his instincts, which he was used to playing gambling games. By doing something like that, he can enjoy what comes out in front of him, and maybe he also doesn't think about winning or losing because he wants to play. We should be able to apply conditions like this when playing gambling so that we don't have too much hope of winning because this is gambling where there will definitely be wins and losses that we will receive. As long as he can gamble without any disturbance, he will not disturb the people around him, and he will immediately leave after he has had enough gambling.

Well, I think we should not mistake the fact that mental instability is not the same as total madness, mental instability is just as the name  or the title implies, there will still be times when the person could be well behaved, I've personally seen some people with metal instability who become mentally stable( so to say) in or at some time of the day or some moment,  and the next moment, their brains becomes upside down again.

So, Its very possible for a mental unstable person to walk into a casino or betting shop to gamble or place some bets when they feel some kind of relieve from their mental instability.
Like I said before, I've seen or witnessed this with some mentally challenged persons here in my area.
Mad people possibly can not gamble completely, because madness is the highest height of mental instability, but for those who are mentally challenged at the mild or middle level, this ones can still participate in some activities normal people do from time to time.

Gambling is not just for normal people, as long as they have money to place bets and have fun.
Even a lot of people who have been depressed with a mental condition that is already chaotic, can even and are welcomed by other gamblers. yes, maybe there are some who consider them to be material for depositing money and giving more winnings if they have lost.

People’s mental illness can be of different degrees some people might be mentally unstable but they still have some sense in them and can act normally in most cases without anyone noticing they are mentally unstable. This could be the case of this person, he might be unstable but he could still have some sense in him and maybe why he is able to act normally when he wants to gamble.

Mentally unstable person who is able to work to raise money to gamble is not too affected with the illness and shouldn’t be a problem to the casino so it’s ok to allow him to gamble because he also has equal rights as a human but I advise they keep a close eyes on him just incase his case worsens. Anyone with critical mental issues shouldn’t be allowed to gamble to avoid issues.

Exactly! as long as they have money and capability to do gambling, they are welcome anytime. Especially when they are diagnosed with a mental illness but didn't harm other people, I think there's nothing wrong with that. We need to at least consider other peoples happiness and wants even if they have mental health illness because I know that they are aware with that and because they want to escape from their problem, gambling is one of their way to release their stress and problems in life.

I understand your point, but how is gambling one of the ways for mentally unstable people to release their stress and problems in life? I think the only thing that can release stress and problems in life is to tackle the problems, to solve them or to seek help/support to get them solved as quickly as possible. That is truly stress relieving. What if a gambling session goes utterly wrong and the person who is already stressed out loses a lot of money? No, I don't believe the story that people say the luck someone feels in gambling even when they lose is stronger than the bad feelings from the loss of money they experienced. If it is all under control financially, ok maybe it can be true. But for most people it is not and social bonding would probably be much better than gambling when people are mentally ill or unstable.

The question sounds weird. First of all everyone have rights to gamble. Gambling is not something to be afraid of, not something that is suitable only for someone, and for others dont. Mentally unstable people are the same people as all of us, but with a bit of specialty. They can gamble when there is someone who can supervise them, take care of them. But it somehow sounds humiliating. How would someone consider allowing or not to gamble? Show ID or certificate and you are free to enter casino or page?

Yes, basically people who gamble in physical casinos aim to win and have fun, and if someone causes a riot or their actions disturb the comfort of other people, of course the casino must take further action. because it is possible for those who are mentally unstable to gamble and we know that gambling has a big chance of losing, and it is possible that they become rebellious because they lose at gambling so that the casino has to give a warning or expel them because it disturbs other people's comfort.

If it leads to that, it's certain that other people will also think badly of someone who looks inappropriate, but is it possible for someone to come to the casino with inappropriate clothes? I don't think so, because I thought before entering the casino there would be security at the entrance, but I don't know because I have never set foot in a physical casino.

I agree. Gambling can make that person feel better, and who are we to forbid it? Only I think that hardly someone will feel better after losing a big amount. I would suggest giving a limited amount of chips to such gamblers, but it can be depressing for them, they could feel that they are not allowed to win big. So, honestly, I don't know the right solution.

This means that gambling is for everyone who has money and wants to spend their time relaxing by playing gambling games. They don't need to have fun using gambling because other activities can also give them the opportunity to have fun and spend their time. But because of the curiosity of these people who want to know what it feels like to win from gambling, they start gambling, and many of them even end up becoming addicted to gambling without realizing it. Many people have experienced depression because of the losses they experienced at gambling, so their lives have been disrupted. They cannot think clearly to look for and find the right solution for them to solve their problem in gambling. They will only fall deeper into gambling and cannot get out of gambling easily.

Mentally unstable people are people who easily change their mood very quickly, they are people who easily go into depression when faced with a loss, even if it is a small loss, they are people who are unlikely to gamble and accept that they are constantly losing money and have positive thinking, many people just pretend that they are playing for fun, they will never say publicly that they are playing with the hope that one day they will make a profit, this is because society sees gambling as a path to the destruction of life, both and that those games in which the person puts money to predict the outcome are then considered games of chance, why aren't they called games of luck?

In my opinion, the answer is very simple, they won't call it games of luck because they would lose more than they won, so they started calling it games of chance. and mentally unstable people can get it into their head that they are just going to play for fun, but then when they lose in a game these same mentally unstable people will start to get irritated and think about chasing losses and if they are in a physical casino it will cause confusion and if In the physical casino, the security guards will kick them out, then they will go to a bar and start drinking a lot and causing confusion such as fights inside the bar. Who here has never seen confused people on football fields who get angry easily and for futile reasons, causing fights? I believe we have all seen these people, they are mentally unstable people


at least when the number of covid cases reduced a lot and physical casinos reopened, people dressed very well

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Gambling is not for everybody,so I disagree with this statement of yours in one way.I know everybody has the privilege to gamble,and it is your wish to gamble or not,but the fact that gambling is not for everybody means that not everyone has the mind to be able to gamble,some persons will cry after they lose a round of game,while some persons will just see it as part of the game.We always say,and know that gambling is a risky game to play,it's either one wins or one loses,when you lose,you have to still accept that fact,while if you win,it's your luck to be happy about.But the losing part of it which is the most common part of gambling is what some people find hard to accept,but one thing is sure,as long as one is into the habbit of gambling,losing is essential.

The answer is both yes and no. From what I know, some casinos have dress codes, and if someone is not dressed appropriately, they might be stopped right at the entrance. As for someone having mental health issues, it might not even be a matter of discussion; they are definitely not be accepted. In most countries, individuals with mental health problems might face restrictions on participating in gambling activities if their condition is deemed to affect their ability to manage themselves and make reasonable decisions.

In your case, the gambling venue is likely aware of his condition, so he might not face any bans or restrictions. Perhaps, in previous visits, he didn't exhibit such behavior, or after playing for a while, he became a regular customer, and initial barriers may have been lifted.

It's challenging to determine if someone appears mentally unstable during the first encounter, so limitations or bans in such situations are understandable. This is more about the casino's regulations than ethical or legal concerns.

Not sure why we need to differentiate them from us Normal when they are acting the same in gambling
places? I mean they are just there putting their money at risk like what normal does? though we may questioned where
they have got the money yet we have no rights to throw them away like that, and also casino cares nothing about that
as long as they are not bringing troubles in their businesses.

Well, we are always going to see one of the things that can affect our mental and physical health and that is precisely the disturbance that a person can give us, and even more so when we are in a situation where we need all the concentration possible to do our things, as is with money because things change a lot, in this order of ideas we have to do anything that can lead to having a good result, for that reason we have to have what is required to know how to make a claim, because imagine, we have a good streak and someone like that approaches us and upsets us, makes us lose and we can't do anything to him because things just happen to people like that, it's not possible to make any kind of complaints because otherwise he can get into trouble, as there are so many in the world now. Organizations have to respect those things.

Leaving the casino because there is a person like that is the best option, then the casino will have to take the respective measures on the matter, because obviously it will affect its clients and that is something that is not viable for them, that glo that can happen for the worse, you could say that when we can have any type of progress or win, and we are Affected by someone like that, it would make me angry, because that is what casino security is for, I have seen that there are many people who can create enough things for us to have securit y, also at the single door I see that there are people who don't even let them in no matter what they do, I don't know if they don't let someone in so they call it discrimination and then the casino gets involved In another problem that is worse, but it is difficult, that is why each casino has to have what we call, "Reservation of the right of admission" if they allow it, well I think that is the best way they can do to have A better development option with its rules, there is no other option, it is better than losing customers , or Having customers leave the casino because of people like that.

You are right, I agree with this statement and of course people who have mental problems definitely have instability in their behavior and have the potential to do things beyond normal human limits.
But we cannot see how deep these people are in experiencing mental problems. Many people have mental problems but it is not yet serious, they can still be like normal people in general and of course they can still do various activities well.
We cannot judge someone just by their appearance and we cannot continue to avoid people like this because they will be able to recover if there is good approach from other people.

In my opinion, people who experience mental disorders that are quite severe will be categorized as people who are crazy, but this is different from people who are depressed or have just experienced some trauma that makes them do things like abnormal people.
But habits can never be broken because they know that previously they always did that activity with great pleasure and when mental problems occurred they still thought about doing the same activity.

I think that the casino staff had known him for long time before he really had any mental problems.
And problems like this cannot be solved using logic because no one knows what problem actually occurred and caused the condition to be like that.
Moreover, if you think about it deeply and also look at someone behavior, you can conclude that maybe he is just homeless person who doesn't have anything, including place to live.
But the casino staff is much more understanding and he understands the conditions of each customer much better.

If he look at it as his good past time then better to let him, if there's no harm after playing and if he keeps doing the same after gaming then allowing him to enjoy is not going to wreck your business, but again, if he starts to show up breaking out and control is no longer capable then that's the time that he needed not to be allow inside that casino, it can bring fear to other people who are also gaming around him.

It's a business concern that matters, and a case to case situation which is really hard to answer, it's up to the owner if what he implement for such kind of behavioral issue.

For that matter, it's clear, because with the current situation, in my opinion, Covid is no longer there, therefore it is possible that physical casinos will now be open again, also with many people who usually like to gamble in physical casinos, maybe they really miss physical casinos.

I think even now more people do their gambling online, therefore mentally unstable people can gamble, but if they gambled in a physical casino I don't think they would look bad, it's impossible for anyone to they are mentally unstable and they gamble in physical casinos and they wear inappropriate clothes, because I'm sure even though they are mentally unstable, they know that casinos are places where lots of people gather.

It's true that casinos should have the best security, both in terms of games and the security of everyone who comes to the casino, because it's impossible for them to keep one person who will harm many people If indeed the casino already has the best security, I think it's the appearance of one person who If it's not good then they will follow up first before they enter, because in terms of appearance it also affects, people who look bad and good who come to the casino I think they will get more attention from the casino security because with their appearance that is not comfortable it can be a lot of attention. person.

That's true because they can't calm down for a while and will easily experience changes in their mood. The person will also not be able to get along with other people because of erratic mood changes, so they will have difficulty being in public. However, some people are mentally stable and can get along with other people even though they are unstable at certain times. People can still accept them and invite them to chat when they are "aware" of themselves because they can think rationally and understand the direction of the discussion or chat. And yes, these people can still socialize with other people, and they are even the ones who might gamble because they are mentally stable when they gamble.

But these people will not think about victory and defeat. They like seeing what is in front of them, and whatever the result, they will just accept it. that is very different from gamblers, who will want to win more. They also won't call gambling a game of chance because they may have another name for gambling that only they understand. They just want to feel the pleasure of playing with the machine and don't think about winning the gambling game. They also don't try to make a fuss in the casino because they can position themselves well and want to gamble.

Gambling is not a privilege, but it is everyone's choice. If they don't like gambling games, they don't need to gamble and look for other activities that are safer for them. But if they want to look for sensations and challenges to make money, they can use gambling, but they have to be able to bear the risk because there is a risk of losing money from gambling. If people cry because they have lost when playing gambling, they should think again about not approaching gambling again because they cannot accept their loss and will be sad because they have lost their money. People who want to gamble should be able to think about what, if they lose, they can accept the results. Won't they be sad to see their money disappear because they gambled? If they can accept the results, they can gamble, but they should use limits in gambling so that their losses will not be too big.

Yes, that's right, because if the casino staff hadn't known him for a long time, he wouldn't have allowed that person to enter the casino and gamble there. The casino staff knew him well, so he could tell that the person only wanted to gamble periodically, and once he was done gambling, he would immediately leave the casino. This is good self-control, where the person does not have other desires, such as winning the gambling game or recovering from previous losses. He wants to gamble as usual and may only gamble on one casino machine, so he won't want to try other casino games. Casino staff who already know that person well will keep an eye on that person even though they already know him well because casino staff want to ensure that the place they work in remains comfortable for everyone who wants to gamble.

We all know unstable person always good in one thik. If we try to found it we can found many person who is unstable but they are doing gambling. But im not sure about mentally unstable it's hard to find but if they can remember then they will never forget and they will apply great fully and they can be good gambler. But in my opinion it's it possible im not sure they can't remember properly thats the reason they called mentally unstable.

Not only that, if a casino actually dared to do this they may be sued for discrimination, as they did not had any valid reason to exclude a person from their business and they did so solely based on the way a person looks, so depending on the country in which this happened I could see a person like that winning the lawsuit and the casino paying them a lot of money and even a fine for doing something like this, so I doubt any casino will want that kind of trouble coming to them.

It is really just that too much i would say on which there's no way that people could really be able to judge basing up on how they do looks.
Being prohibited just because they do act something weird? We dont know about their life situations or conditions on which as long they arent really giving some harm into other
people then i dont see anything something wrong on which they could really be able to play as long they do have the money that they could be able to make use with.
We are really that free on whatever things that we do tend to engage specially gambling, just like been said that it is really sad that people are way too easy on judging up on things.

And the most important thing is that the casino staff understands and understands the condition of someone who might be considered crazy by other gamblers. Staff understands better what the situation is and that is why there have never been riots caused by mentally unstable customers.
From cases like this we can conclude that not everyone who is considered bad or has bad appearance will also commit bad actions because person condition cannot be truly understood just by looking at their appearance.

Maybe there are similar things in other places, especially in densely populated places, gambling in several countries where it is legal has mushroomed and is known by people from all walks of life and all ages.
Even if you visit rural places, you will be able to find gamblers who really look shabby, unlike casinos in big cities.
I think that if every incident does not cause problem then it can still be considered normal for it to happen.

With the readiness of the casino staff for every visitor who comes, you can be sure that the casino will not experience any disturbances so that all visitors can gamble comfortably and calmly. The casino can attract even more visitors. Casino staff will also know more about the customers who come to their casino because they will check each customer to make sure their purpose is to gamble. People with a bad appearance do not mean they will do bad things, but some people dress differently from most people. They also want to be treated like other people.

This also happens in other countries, but we don't know the location. And that's only natural because maybe the media doesn't report it, so only a few people know about it. Of course, it will be different if we gamble in rural and urban areas because the customers will also be different, and the atmosphere will also be different.

If you think logically, your view is not wrong and it is like that if we use logic, there should be no certain limitations or views on each person in terms of appearance, but if you look at it from a moral point of view when the gambling owner looks at the person as the OP described to save the person from the trap of gambling addiction that can blind him to be in the same place and never develop in the world of finance if he has such habits continuously, but on the other hand this is also a bit of a dilemma if the person thinks gambling is his life and he is happy about it.

You are right, personal appearance is very important, we as good people are always going to do anything to be able to have a comfortable type for everything, this is affected by what you wear, I have seen that in nightclubs, which are very elegant and have exclusivity high, the people have to get there to see how they behave, they look at them and do their best to try to understand how they can be super personality and how they can function in a caisno, if they see that they are problematic people then no, the appearance says a lot and This can help you decide, but it is something that is very subjective, there are people who are very millionaires and dress in a sensical way, so that is the ultimate accolade that is given to everyone, for me people's apprehension is like the entrance that is It gives people, I can't judge, but it is the first impression, and obviously a person is quite poorly dressed, because it doesn't give much to think well about them.

People who are different can be good people, but there are also many who dress up, they can appear to be very good, in every sense, in appearance and in clothing, but they can be unbalanced and people who are problematic even with a good appearance. , that is something that we should always observe, of course this is something that is noticeable by miles, those who are casino observers have to be very well trained to see and decide which person should be in a casino and which others should not, because It is very easy to talk and say things, but in certain establishments they hire people who at once are capable of deciphering a person very well, they have that gift, I don't know, but it is something that can be seen, in that sense in all cases this is not the case. It goes to a level of security, the security of a casino not only includes that of its games, but also from the moment someone enters until they leave the establishment, in online casinos it is something else.

In my opinion there is no problem with that, as long as he can still follow the rules in the gambling house.
Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.
Moreover, there is no specific prohibition on people being prohibited from entering a gambling house with a shabby appearance, the important thing is that they bring money to enter there.

Is there anyone like that? because, if he doesn't have a stable mentality at home, how in the casino can he be a person who has the mentality of a normal person? I know, sometimes problems come from the family, which makes the person uncomfortable at home.. but if this person gambles, then loses, can he control his emotions because at home he has been known to have a mental disorder? This is something new for me, maybe you can explain it specifically, and do you know anyone who has that kind of mental character IRL?

It's only in few parts of the world that they can see someone who is mentally unstable,and they would allow him walk freely to were people gather without them taming him.However,there are some of them that are harmless,and that is where the question should come,should it be violent ones that should be tamed or all mentally unstable being?This is a question that I think is important when describing mentally unstable people because some of them are still very free,and can enter any Cassino hall without causing any trouble,while some of them are so violent in nature that mere seeing them,you will be scared.My answer is,all the people that are mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed to gamble with sane people because no one can predict their action.

You re right but I have a question if the person mentality unstable then the person is able to remember the strategy and money management. Yep a person can be unstable because of gambling the person faces losses and the person can't take re pressure and shoked then that can happened. If a person is mentally unstable from previous then it's hard or maybe impossible.

if the story you tell is not necessarily mentally affected, because he came and gambled as usual without disturbing the atmosphere of other people, it is possible that he looked tired & dirty and thought he was mentally deficient, we don't know what he was thinking, it's clear he was just a gambling addict

Perhaps so, but who knows how this player will behave in the future, maybe he didn’t encounter an unfortunate series of events and when he finds out what it is it will completely piss him off, much more than an ordinary person. Of course there are ordinary people who can behave horribly after something like this. So, in general, everyone is individual and gambling can have different effects on everyone who plays. I don’t have a definite answer to this question, because the people who are responsible for the admission or not admission of mentally unstable people bear personal responsibility for this and any bad case will be like a claim from the community against them.

We can't judge people based on their appearance because we don't know what their lives are really like. As long as they have money to gamble then the casino can still accept it, because business is still business and they still make a profit no matter how much money their users have. The casino will not feel at a loss just because someone's appearance is shabby, the casino will be harmed precisely by people who cause trouble and harm other gamblers, this of course makes other visitors uncomfortable.
In this case, everyone is free to gamble, whether old, young, women, men except underage children, as long as they have money they are free to do whatever they want to spend their money either on gambling or drinking, and those who are mentally unstable can continue to gamble as long as you have money and don't do any trouble.

From your description it seems that you are just assuming that the man is mentally unstable by the way he is dressed. As long as somebody has the capabilities to understand what they are doing then it is up to the casino to decide if they wan to provide their service to them. They aren't taking advantage of him by allowing him to use money he earned in the way he chooses.

Mental instability can be subjective. Somebody can be neurodivergent and exhibit strange behavior and yet is still capable of being CEO of a billion dollar company, like Elon Musk for example. If Elon Musk wasn't rich and well dressed some people also would think he was too unstable to be allowed to gamble.

I think ethical issues with gambling are yet to be solved. Mentally unstable doesn't mean a person lacks intelligence to gamble in my opinion. Psychological issues are hard to diagnose even with modern healthcare. Many people can't exactly relate with people with psychological ilnesses or disorders. So in my opinion, people with psychological problems will very likely to not be allowed to gamble in future, probably in 10 years or something. I think humanity is bit too underdeveloped to decide on these issues yet.

If it's natural then that means that it's easy to accept, they've got some mental problems that need addressing, what more red flags do we need to stop someone like that from entering the premises that might cause a big disturbance that can affect your other customers? Should that mentally unstable person have a meltdown first and hurt themselves and others for us to do something? I don't think that's right because if there's a way that something can be prevented from happening, there's no way that the prevention isn't done because some deemed it wrong and that we try not to judge other people. You've said it already in your 2nd paragraph, that they don't bring anything good so why still have some hesitation to be in agreement with me that they shouldn't be allowed?

Casinos welcome anyone with the means to enter. I think this is a commercial decision that reflects society's view of riches and leisure. Casinos unintentionally promote non-discrimination based on appearance or social status in their pursuit of profit. Is inclusion morally responsible? Should casinos worry about their customers' money or mental health? Business ethics and personal freedom blur in this complex subject

I believe everyone is free to gamble has substantial limitations. As long as adults are legal, gambling is a personal choice. However, what about social and psychological effects? Gambling seduces the weak. Businesses must be considered in promoting responsible conduct. Casinos follow the law, but their ethical regulations on who can bet, especially for people with mental health issues, are complex and poorly explored

Good point and it is hard to definitively say who is mentally unstable because if in a group of 5 idiots you talk sense, then they start calling you idiot. Casino have security in place for if someone acts violently.

There is no parameter to determine who is mentally stable and to what extent. And if there is no set parameter then it has to be handled separately for each case. You cannot create a rule for a set of people who are hard to define to start with.

Isn't this the same as asking should criminals be allowed to gamble? Well, how do you determine one is a criminal? There is no way possible and hence the casino has to deal with case by case. If they feel someone is a potential harm to others, they will throw him out.

It is bad that some people divide people into categories. Mentally unstable or mentally stable. What next? Use skin color to determine who is allowed to gamble or not? There is no obvious connection between two examples, but the wind blows from that side. Everyone should be allowed to gamble. If mentally unstable person knows the rules, why should not he be allowed to use his money the way he wants. Should casino or dealer treat him differently? No. Should they try to get any kind of advantage due to gamblers mental instability? Absolutely not. Should mentally unstable gambler ask or demand for special attention because of his condition? Also no. When both parties do everything under the rules, there is never a problem.

In real-life casinos, I agree they shouldn't be allowed or perhaps there is enough staff to make sure others are not troubled. It also depends on how the person acts because I have known some mentally ill people in past and they were the least harmful people although they were unpredictable and you don't know what they will say next. Being mentally ill or unstable doesn't equate to being dangerous :).

As far as online casinos are concerned, there is no risk for anyone apart from the person himself who might lose all his money overnight due to the instability. For them, it's their family's responsibility to make sure they are not gambling too much if at all. Secondly, the casino staff must be well trained to realize if a player is desperate and lock their account in such conditions but of course, these casinos love such players.

Discrimination is wrong, especially when the person has done no bad to the society. Being in a bad shape or wearing some dirty clothes doesn't mean a person is mentally disabled. Some of the factors used in the OP in describing a mentally disordered person, isn't enough in determining if a person is mentally ill or not. Whoever visits the casino and destroys a machine or yell at random people, regardless of his diamond chains and watches he's wearing, is mentally ill and will be thrown out of the casino, immediately. Such players don't need to be reminded that the gambling house is not for them, even in their next days of visiting the casino he'd be bounced out. But anybody who respects himself and controls his reactions while gambling, not minding his cheap clothes, is a responsible gambler and should be respected.

If he is mentally unstable, he might make a fuss when he is in the casino, especially when he wins or loses. He might scream to express his feelings, which disturbs the people gambling in the casino. But if we look at what the officer said, the person was not bothering other people and just wanted to gamble. He always came to the casino and gambled. After that, he immediately left the casino. The etiquette may be about him dressing shabbily and sloppy like other people but that's okay because as long as he has money to gamble and doesn't bother other people, he can still enter the casino to gamble. Maybe that's why the officers didn't throw him out of the casino because if he turned out to be disruptive and causing a scene in the casino, the officers wouldn't have let him into the casino in the first place.

If the person is already mentally unstable then it will be due to the environment. It is very important to manage money for proper gambling. Managing finances is never easy for a mentally ill person. He will be mentally weak and will not be able to do any work properly. If he is mentally damaged due to gambling then he should be called addicted.

Yes, because appearance determines how other people judge us, we should wear good clothes, because it is impossible to go to a place where many people wear inappropriate clothes or messy clothes. In my opinion it's like that, it's impossible for them to go to a place with lots of people wearing clothes that are unpleasant to look at because that will disturb the comfort of other people too of course.

It's true what you said when it comes to appearance, of course you have to pay close attention to this. Of course the casino security must be able to see which people are suitable to enter the casino and which are not suitable to enter the casino. In my opinion, the casino must hire people to guard the entrance, and those who are mentally unstable can still gamble if they have money. and wear clothes that are pleasing to other people's eyes.

Mentally unstable people can behave quite normally and place bets in gambling, but maybe this is the whole point - there are many more people who lose than those who win. Maybe the owners don’t want to offend these people in this way, because if they lose, it will be very sad. I’m sure it’s much harder to make money if you’re mentally unstable, and you can lose it very quickly. So the owners can see this as a reason for the risk in which, after another loss, such a person will come to them and declare that he did not control himself and provide some kind of certificate from a medical institution. I just suggested some options, but there may be more.

I don't think we should say "he was just a gambling addict", actually the reason why @OP asking about mentality unstable is might result become a gambling addict, if he was a gambling addict, that means he shouldn't stop to gamble lol.

In offline casino (assuming it's the legal one) is quite strict and they don't allow a gambling addict to gamble. But it's hard to distinguish between a high roller and a gambling addict.

that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.

Those individuals who are mentally unstable are more interested in gambling and other activities because they are easily addicted towards these fields. May be they don't have control over their thoughts or they are unable to think wisely.

If such type of people see their family members to be involved in gambling then they think that it will be a good field as other family members find it good too but when they enter into gambling then they never can leave it and wants to play again and again.

Such people don't have control on their decisions and most of them initiate gambling just for spending their time but instead of time spending they aquire bad addiction and now they can never stop to gamble.

Do they actually know what they are doing on a real sense, because they will virtually want to participate in everything they see others doing and stopping them could cause trouble Incase of the tempered ones among them, so I don't see it a good alodes allowing a mental I'll person to gamble in the first place, there's no need for that, gambling isn't child's play.


Most family members will always want to do without the appearance of a mental I'll person in their family, such a person would have been excluded right before they start gambling, they wouldn't want anything that may spoil their fun, but that will actually depend on the kind of condition such a mental I'll person is having.

If you ask me that question they are will be one answer is no mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to do gambling. Because it can be very dangerous if a mentally unstable people are on the table of gambling. Just as a mentally unstable person is prevented from everything, if they commit a crime, they are not brought under the law, just as it is better not to let them gamble.

What happens is that I say it because now we have to be very tactful with respect to people who are like that, that is, with a single complaint they make people unstable, or who are in treatment, or who are in some period of time in Try that, because they are going to make it viral, and believe me, at a viral level, speaking badly about a casino or any other entity will cause things to get complicated, because once in a while the perons cross it out like that, but of course, considering things, it is the most healthy right?
  Maybe you see things as they are private entities and the casinos reserve the right of admission is what they can base on not accepting people like that anymore, but it is something complicated, I see it that way, what you say is ideal, but you have to to be or have tact , perhaps I love it from the point of view that is more focused on what a person like that feels, but unfortunately a person like that cannot enter a casino, unless he enters with someone who is attentive to that person. person.

Currently, the ages that are mentally unstable can become a social problem, where governments can give them help, but when they are things of fun, whether they are gay, whether they are discos, where there are people who do not have the slightest respect sometimes by others, because they are treated badly, and this is what I mean, when people treat them badly they become somewhat violent, because it is their nature to react to those slights and everything that has to do with that type of treatment, of course this is what I can see according to what is discussed here, in the country I am in, if a person treats someone badly who is like that, or who has a disability, that is as if the 7 plagues, that is something very bad, they put you in prison, you go to trial, you spend a long time in jail, you have to spend a lot of money paying for lawyers, and since they are on camera , even more so, those are the things that I say that sometimes there are to take care of yourself.

Casinos still prioritize their business, they promote casinos to the public without discrimination, especially just because of appearance, the only requirement for gamblers to enter the casino house is that they bring money to bet, then the service will still be prioritized and if they don't bring money, it means that person is not for gambling and other people only then can we conclude that people who come to the casino don't bring money to gamble, so their health is affected, they could be addicted and don't have the money to continue gambling.

Yes, gambling can indeed make mentally weak people more psychologically disturbed if the gambling is unhealthy, I don't think we can blame gambling for causing people to experience mental disorders because it is the gambler's own fault, the casino is only carrying out its duty to promote it to the public with the aim of making a profit and doesn't care about the mental health of its users as long as they can still make a profit.

Certain gambling places may be required by law, ethics, and morals to check on the mental health of people who show signs of being unstable. There may not be clear rules on how to refuse service to people who are mentally ill and can't make smart choices. It is important to find a balance between safe gambling and personal freedom. Being proactive and working with the police and mental health workers when needed to offer support or advice for people who want to get help may be more effective.

On all gambling platforms, there are no restrictions on what mental disorders are suffered by users,
they only warn that gambling will be harmful to those who are not prepared.

And There is no questionnaire about how high a person's mental disorder is who wants to get into gambling.
Those who are mentally unwell and get into gambling will be treated the same as other gamblers.
This is a personal matter, it should be peopled in their environment who should care what someone who is mentally disturbed does.

There are no such rules in physical casinos where people can participate on the basis of category. Casinos or gambling sites, of course, must provide opportunities for all categories of people to participate and create an environment, but there is a rule-based requirement of gambling that age-based categories, especially school and college students below 18 years of age, cannot participate. But I have never seen a casino where mentally disordered gamblers participate.  However, I have never seen a casino that has any rules to prevent a mentally disordered or unstable person from participating.
However, most of today's gambling and casino sites are operated online. There is no way to check who or who participates, and in that case, if a mentally unstable person participates. Because there is no opportunity to directly participate in the casino in online casinos, in this case, any gambler or casino site can participate from any part of the world at any time. In this case, the physical condition of any participant is not taken into consideration.

Yes, that is true because there are casinos that require visitors to be physically and mentally healthy when they visit the casino and want to gamble, and the important thing is that they have money to gamble. But in that case, the casino officer knew the person because the person had often gambled at the casino and never made a fuss, so the casino officer allowed him to enter and gamble. Besides that, the person just wants to gamble and visits the casino periodically, where after finishing gambling, he will immediately leave. Perhaps what surprised us was that the person looked like most people, so we saw it as unusual for it to happen in a casino.

Most of the time, gamblers will be unstable when they're on a losing streak. To overcome such a situation, gamblers, some of whom used to go for high bets, We can't conclude that someone is unstable just because of their outfit. The person mentioned by OP is a regular gambler, and in physical casinos, they allow people who are mentally stable, it isn't possible. In most of the casinos, we were able to see bars and other entertainment services, which are intended to make people unstable and leave them empty-handed.

A valid point you made there, Sompitonov, but it's rare to find such things happening in gambling. However, the possibility is there, and casino need to stay aware about such dispute from happening. I've seen a man sue a casino for offering him more free drinks which made him lose out in the process. That he wasn't in his right self-control, the alcohol caused it. In a similar scenario for a mentally unstable player, the casino may not be held responsible for his mistake because the house is not meant to know whether he's mentally ill or not. As people perform differently, including mentally unstable gamblers. I don't think the casino would be penalized for allowing a mentally unstable person gamble, if he turns around to declare he wasn't in his right senses. The fault is on the player not the casino.

I understand your subtle perspective. Casinos are companies, not moral guardians. Their main goal? Profit. They're not demonized automatically. Its about understanding their context. Money is their international language, therefore they welcome everyone. Is it acceptable to put all personal responsibility on them?

Moving on to the individual's role. Its essential, right? I value personal responsibility. Someone enters a casino by choice. Choices have exciting and catastrophic effects. However, blaming the casino for gambling addiction is like blaming a bar for alcoholism. The border of personal responsibility shouldnt be blurred.

However, I believe there's an agreement. Casinos could encourage responsible gambling. Not absolving gamblers of their actions, but fostering an environment where fun and responsibility coexist. The key? Balance. Casinos thrive, people enjoy fun, and gambling's bad side is addressed. Its complicated, but empathy and practicality can coexist.

A man can never be judged by his clothes or outer appearance. Because outer appearance and inner both are not the same. There are many people in gambling who seem normal but they can be bigger gamblers than other normal gamblers. I think that a gambler, regardless of his appearance, nature or dress, if he behaves decently in a particular house and conducts gambling well, then he must be a good gambler. Moreover, any gambler will get permission everywhere if he does not cause any harm to others. In my sense I know that gambler will be allowed to gamble everywhere. The main point is that whatever the gambler does in general, if he does not harm others, he must not be restricted by any law in the world.

Gambling is one engagement that requires mental strength and activeness to fully practice it and that's why it'll definitely be a bad idea to allow someone who's not mentally stable to engage in gambling as it'll definitely ruin the person.
The truth is that there's no already established process in gambling companies that tests people's mental sanity before allowing them to gamble and that's why it's absolutely understandable that a lot of mentally unstable persons still engage in gambling but that's actually not the best way forward ahd the earlier those provisions are made the better for humanity.

Those with the issue of addiction are the once that are always unstable because they are always some kind of a metal state. When you keep having expectations and your not meeting them then it will definitely affect anyone that is addicted and will keep doing revenge gambling until they win. I think their people that are looking very poor not because of anything but their greed. I don't think gambling has any thing to mental challenges. The only thing I see gambling coming with is frustrating, anxiety and depression and if you look at it they are all part of the mental challenges. And everything that as to money comes with there own mental challenges.

The gambler who ready to take a risk in the gambling site should play the game with full confidence and physical control over the game.Some people loss their mental control by losing the huge money in the gambling site.It’s essential to take the rest after the gambling loss and most special of the continuous losses in the gambling site.The vacation after the loss in the gambling site will be the better option,many experienced gamblers do this for the mindset of the gamblers to get satisfied.The loss in the gambling sites will be loss,even we can able to recover the same in the future days.We should survive in the gambling site.

And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.

I believe it would be possible. In developed countries there are complete databases which hold information on the people who have gone through mental institutions, for example. It would be matter for those basa bases to the shared with the staff of the casino and uploading the information in real time. Though, there would be still serious problems in that hypothetical system: people may feel their privacy and their rights are being violated by the government and the casino and also, that system would not stop someone from engaging with gambling in other unregulated markets... They could still gamble or bet with their friends or family, or even with strangers who could meet in secret places to bet on fights or races.

It would not take the casinos to hire extra staff to evaluate anyone,.to be honest, the government could provide all what is needed, though, I would continue to believe it would not be effective.

But if gamblers have a sense of self-confidence and physical control that makes them gamble for a long time, it can make them lose confidence and self-control because gambling for a long time can trigger them to lose even more. When we have lost, especially if it is a losing streak, we should realize that perhaps we cannot win that day, and we should immediately stop the gambling game to rest for a few days to reduce the tension. Losing from gambling is indeed painful, but if we lose all the money in one day, it will hurt even more, so we have to really take care of ourselves and not lose too much. And perhaps that's what people in shabby clothes who gamble in casinos do, who can immediately stop gambling when they have enough time to gamble. Perhaps at that time, he could think rationally so he could immediately stop himself from gambling.

Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.

(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).

A person who was released from a mental institution should be healthy and fit to interact with the society, which also includes gambling. In many countries going through person's medical records is not allowed and you can't ban them from entering a casino or something because they used to be incarcerated, held in a mental institution, or are currently being treated.
If they started having access to a medical database, what's stopping them from banning you from the casino because you have HIV, or something. We'd come to a point where stores would put up signs that they don't serve people who once had a mental breakdown, or epilepsy...

It's not that people MAY feel their rights are being violated. If that happens, they are being violated, that's a fact, which makes it impossible to instate in freedom oriented countries. Maybe China will one day do something like that, they're known for crazy ideas and privacy means nothing there.

For those platforms or physical places, then how they would be able to determine out on which a certain person does have that kind of defect on the time that they would enter on such vicinity?

There's no way that you could be able to spot it out as a security personnel but it would be that depending on the gestures or actions made but if there's nothing wrong on how someone do
really be having then i dont see that prohibitions would be strictly be applied even into those kind of hunches about behavior problems.
Anyone is really to gamble and it is really just that right that they would really be able to play as long they do have the money that they could make use of. When it comes to unstable
kind of condition of someone then it would really be just that possible that they would be stopped or get kicked out if they are really that able to affect someone on the venue
or simply having those kind of actions on which its not really that something right to do so.

Mental disordered people have different problems and not all of them won't be able to perform a job. Although in your last line Noormcs5, indeed, a mentally retarded person can't work and won't be in the gambling house. If he does should not be allowed by the families. The actions or moves to take wouldn't be same for each person. Only few humans are completely, 100%, mentally stable. Today's world consists of too many troubles that the newer generation may not adapt easily. In the sense that the person doesn't comply by the rules of the casino, can be pushed away in the casino. It'll be hard to detect a mentally disordered person than a retarded person. The later should be removed in the casino, as it's not conducive to have them around people who are working strides ahead to stabilize the mental health of themselves and their family.

Most people prefer to not be disturbed and so they wouldn't be happy with such a person playing near to them. But if there's a possibility of private rooms for such people maybe that would be the answer. You know, playing in a casino can have a good therapeutic effect and if $50 is lost to slots but you feel better than after going to psychotherapist and it cost less, maybe it's worth it.

And that is the issue with all of this, we want to have products and services available to us all the time and we want this to happen as fast as possible, and yet many people also want for businesses to protect their customers from their own mistakes, introduce a bunch of regulations to make this a reality and force business owners to do something they never wanted to do, and we cannot have both, we must choose and personally I am fine with the current environment in which we can have almost anything we may want, and we are the ones that must restrain ourselves from any behavior that could damage us in some way or form.

If he’s stable enough to earn some money and decides to gamble, he could as well be mentally stable enough to gamble and leave without bothering anyone or creating an incident.
Ideally, a mentally unstable individual should be under supervision and shouldn’t be allowed to do things or go out on his own. But if someone who is classified and diagnosed as mentally unstable by society behaves well enough that a gambling establishment think it’s fine and don’t mind collecting their money and allowing them to play, then I guess it’s fine. Until it’s not lol.

According to law, there are unlikely to be any particular laws prohibiting someone from gambling unless they pose an obvious threat to themselves or others. However, this does not guarantee that it is the correct course of action. Finally, it is up to the person and the gaming facility to decide whether or not to allow someone to bet. Even then, it's difficult to determine if the choice is actually in the individual's best interests. It's a difficult question with no easy answers. However, many individuals may gamble for leisure purposes without any bad repercussions, however for certain people, gambling can be a devastating force in their life, and I believe we need to be mindful of this and prepared them if necessary.

If someone have unstable mental, he must not playing gambling because that can makes him can't thinks clear about what's he will do. He will use gambling like the other activities and makes himself deeper in gambling without thinks that playing gambling too often can mess his lives. Even if that person used gambling for leisure, that can makes him forget about everything, especially if he have unstable mental. That can gives bad repercussions to his lives because he will slowly lose his money and he can bankrupt if he still not realize about that. People who have mentally unstable should not allowed to playing gambling because there is a worry that they can ruin themselves because of playing gambling. They can playing gambling excessively without stopping themselves and that means they can lose everything without anyone can stops them except themselves.

I think you are sincerely guessing that the man is mentally unstable because if he appears dirty with shabby looks does not really make him mentally unstable, and from your observation you did not have any proof that he is mentally unstable. and he comes to a betting shop to place his bet that means that he is of sound mind because he knows what is doing and the owner of the betting shop interacts with him as pertains their business.  The only law that restricts people from gambling in any country where gambling is legalized is under age and talking about shabby or dirty looks it is left for the betting attendant or the owners of the betting shops to deal with that.

However, regarding your question, if mentally unstable people should gamble? in law of contracts they are not legally accepted to engage in any business with sane person but he or she can partake in a business when he or she is in lucid period. that is to say that the mentally unstable persons are only allowed to gamble when they are in lucid period.(when they can be able to communicate effectively without violence).

But is it possible for person suffering from mental disorders to carry out gambling activities, they are in less than normal way of thinking and what they do is always beyond the limits of normal human reasoning.
Unlike people who are just depressed or mentally unstable, this has not yet reached state of insanity and people like this can still carry out various activities like normal people in general.
Only difference is temperament and emotional level, those who are mentally unstable or in depressed state really cannot be disturbed and they will tend to be alone.
If their personality used to be that of gambler, perhaps despite this condition they would still be able to gamble, it just that they would be relatively quiet.
I once found person like this in betting shop and it was very ridiculous because while he was in the betting shop he really avoided crowds and if someone else greeted him he looked gloomy or remained silent without word coming out of his mouth.
Most important thing is that as long as the people around you don't bother them then there won't be any problems because people like this won't show their emotions if they don't feel disturbed.

This is why we should not see or look at someone only in terms of their appearance, because those with ties do not necessarily have a personality as good as people who look shabby, for example like the person described by the OP where he looks like a mentally disturbed person but in fact he really follows all the rules applied in physical casinos, and he also comes with his own money to bet and does not harm others at all.

So the point is not to look at someone's character and personality just in terms of appearance, because they might have a good personality and that's why we should respect each other. Another thing is to ascertain whether the person really has a mental disorder or not I think this is the business of the officers on guard and obviously however if indeed the person is indicated to have a mental disorder then gambling will not be allowed for them.

I think that the person in question who might have a mental disorder already regularly comes to the casino to bet and leaves everything to the casino organizers and doesn't make a fuss. This means that the person does not really have a mental disorder.
perhaps because the bad appearance he used annoyed some of the other gamblers. But those who are already customers of the casino, definitely know the habits of this shabby-looking person.

As long as it doesn't disturb the order of the casino, I'm sure the casino management and security won't be too concerned about the gambler.

Right, and as the OP said where the person has been a regular there, and I think I'm pretty sure that the officers must have been quite surprised before when he just came to the casino, or I mean the officers must have initially seen the person in terms of appearance when he had not subscribed to the casino because of his appearance but maybe over time because there was absolutely no problem with his arrival then the trust of the officers finally allowed the person to return to gambling.

In the end, it is clear that if there is absolutely no problem or commotion caused by this person then obviously the casino must serve him like serving visitors in general because he came with his own money and gambled without disturbing the excitement of others.

Yes, since he isn't causing trouble inside the environment, they allowed him to remain and to become a regular customer. However, if he is really mentally disabled, I think it's not right to let him walk around like that without any accompaniment by health agents or family members, because it can lead to incidents at some point and further physical prejudice to his image. Even though he is a peaceful man, maybe he is gambling with money he can't afford to lose, but due to his disability, he isn't totally aware about it and can't judge the situation properly.

So, he needs further assistance from a tutor, for an example, who could take care his money and use it to pay for basic expenses the man is currently neglecting, especially regards his physical appearance. This money should be used to take him to the barber shop, to buy new and clean clothes for him to wear, to pay for healthy food and so on.

I've worked with people who have ongoing learning difficulties and they tend to be given a certain spending allowance for any activity and this keeps anything away from being a problem.

Depends also what kind of gamble we are talking, circus sideshows are a game that is often also a gamble.   I've seen at a fair the plinko triangle or pascals triangle as it was known to me via my maths studies and I would consider that fair to play for anyone even kids but its also a game at a casino too.

The main issue is the size of the bet and probably it should be just a fixed size bet for anyone who might otherwise take too much risk and misjudge their position easily.  Thats the part I would restrict for safety but people should always be allowed to play games imo.

   I would say it would be dollar size entry to any game, you cant get into too much trouble that way and its mostly about the game not this idea of get rich gambling.

Aside that he is not causing any trouble, I think such a player is not meant to hit problem gambling. Looking at the description, he could be mentally unstable, and if he turns out to be addicted to the game his mental problem would skyrocket because addiction also causes mental disorder. However, he gambles in a place where people don't mind how he looks provided he pays his bills, no problem. Yet such a person needs help and should be attended to as you mentioned. Nothing is wrong in accepting him into the place he is human and should be respected.

But, in a case where he is causing trouble to himself, that's not fair. Not saying the gaming house should look into his wellbeing or whether he is a compulsive player, but his family, I believe he belongs to one, should help him on that. On another flip, the player could be living a boring life due to his appearance, few people would love to associate with him, hence gambling could be his way of entertaining himself. Thinking of him, staying around people is his best choice. Regardless, many would look down on him, but someday same person will win big, provided he is not compulsive.

Those that just bet and don't steal money from the others so that they can bet, there's no problem with that. There are mentally stable people but they're even more that does a lot of crazy things for them to be able to gamble. And with that, they should be the ones to get banned from entering into physical casinos or betting shops. Because if they're harming people, that's best for them to stay wherever they are and don't bring ruckus to the other gamblers that are happily gambling.
If they're not going to stop from doing those unnecessary things that bothers other gamblers in the betting shops, that's one reason to bar them from going in to the casino because they're too naughty and they don't understand how irritating it is when they're bothered by someone who's also a gambler but doesn't respect boundaries. And with that, it's best for the management to do actions before some customers request it to them to do it.

No matter how stable they can be the fact that even very sound people,smart people like IT persons or engineers with high positions in work and society have ruined their life because of gambling.They have started out just like everybody else yet their being smart have not helped them to make sound decisions and to stop gambling when their mind were playing tricks on them.Gambling have destabilized really smart minds and persons and spares no one,this is what I am trying to say here,even stable persons,smart ones with a firm life and family can fall prey to gambling and should not be suggested to gamble,I am not at all talking about stealing money as that is going down in moral lows,yet again I repeat gambling spares no one so everyone should be extra careful.

Generally the only restricted thing in gambling is age, If you are not in the age then you're not allowed to play. But in this case I don't think I've witnessed any similar situation and haven't really thought about it.

I think that when someone is mentally unstable or have any disabilities, someone else should be in charge of him, which means he can't proceed any activity alone without the permission of his health carer, because mentally unstable people sometimes act unpredictably and can do crazy things. But I don't know if this works in the gambling world.
 
As you mentioned, this person didn't really give any sign of disability, maybe he is just a gambling addict who used to frequently gamble. I can't be sure though, it is just a probability I thought of and honestly wish for this person to get better no matter what he's dealing with.

There are people who look normal, but their actions tend to be similar to that of a crazy person. So, one doesn't have to be a psychopath or handicapped before they can take crazy actions. But it is hard to figure those persons out before entering a casino or betting shop because they look so normal but get crazy when they start gambling. Which is one of the main reasons why there are securities in the local betting shops and casino.

One good thing is that such person can only gamble in a local shop but can't do any of those tricky and crazy things online because they would immediately block his betting account.

In gambling anything can happen, and no matter who you are or what your position is or how smart you are in a field the fact is that everything is useless if emotions play a role, as we know that generally when something is done based on emotions it will lead to end results that can sometimes be very bad, while gambling is an activity that is very vulnerable to causing emotions to dominate in a person which I think we already know that quite a lot of people have experienced a lot of downfalls.

As you said above that anyone can fall prey to gambling, no matter who you are, no matter how smart you are, or how rich or poor you are you can eventually end up with a very bad situation and life conditions if you treat gambling in the wrong way, well we have found the trigger point that can cause problems is the wrong way of treating gambling activities, and this is the reason why a gambler is always advised to be careful along with putting a lot of restrictions on time, budget and expectations on winning.

Gambling in a hall with a mentally unstable person is quite uncomfortable for my liking, because it could be an act of selfishness for the gambling attendant to still give service to a mentally unstable person when they know that the person isn't in the right state of mind to make good selections. From the description from the op, it's obvious the person was mentally illed, and him been able to compose emself doesn't necessary mean that he is stable in gambling selection. Be might pretend to be fine because he/she knows that he'll be kicked out if he causes any trouble. Such person should be deprived the right of playing gamble, since they can just end up being a n irresponsible gambler.

Sometimes it's not just about the dressing; most of them might dress averagely, but the way they behave in the gambling house will show that they are not on their right senses. 
 
Some also might not dress very well and when they enter any gambling shop even when they mean no harm their appearance alone will scare people aware and they will be uncomfortable to gamble in that place because anyone who is confirm not to be on their right might their behavior can't be predicted and as such people should be careful with them.

I can really relate with what you said. We used to have this mentally unstable guy in our class in college back then, this guy use to be very quiet and makes funny moves and entertain the class, we thought it natural and we were never inform of his behavior and when the head becomes unstable. So, one day his sit mate took something a customized pen from his bag, refused to give back and ran away, this guy was mad that day and chased everyone from the class, crazy day that day they had to hold him down by strong men.

I think mentally unstable people should not be allowed to go to all public places like physical casino, a loss from his games is enough to turn his head upside down and God forbid, they can go extreme to be violent and do what no person expected from them and how do you explain such a thing in the court of law, they should stay at home or if they can gamble with their phone, then better but not public.

Mentally unstable people can execute gambling activities but not in a clear and acceptable manner. They could be compulsive or reckless in the process because they do not care about themselves anymore. The game doesn't seem risky to them either, it's just a compulsory activity that is meant to be carried out at their end. However, like you said, merely looking at them gamble, one could figure out that the person is mentally disordered, due to their body language and some differences in behavior. If the player got mentally disordered through gambling, he may not be aggressive towards other gamblers who think like him.

They can only get bothered when family friends tend to correct them inappropriately about their gambling behavior. But someone who has been struggling with mental disorder before involving himself into gambling, should be avoided and not disturb when in the gambling house. As he could get aggressive both with the gamblers like himself. Personally, would feel comfortable disturbing such a person or trying to correct him while in the casino. Preferably, gamblers should be let to be on their own, unless they seek out for help in predicting a match.

What a weird way for you to describe judging someone based on their looks. For you he may have looked "shabby" but he might otherwise have been perfectly sound of mind and you say that he was otherwise organized enough to place a bet. Some people do not choose to conform to society or the way that you think they should look. Nothing else besides his appearance in your description makes him seem mentally unsound. It's also not the cashiers job to reject someones business really and it might create genuine barriers for people who otherwise should be allowed to gamble. Do we stop people gambling when drunk? As that would suggest they are making improper decisions? No, we don't - in fact casinos often try to ply gamblers with free drinks in order to loosen them up a bit

I just don't understand why op would write about this kind of post for mentally unstable people. When someone is having a mental problem, it means they are not fit to do some certain things and we will have to be very careful how we expected someone that is having a mental imbalance to go gamble. Things might turn to something else we one could be surprised to see another altitude all together because the people would not be mentally fit to gamble. Such kind of person is meant to be isolated a place so that they could take their drugs and healthcare personnel can take good care of the person very well.

If someone is mentally unstable, will he be able to recognize what gambling is? I feel anyone who is of age and has decide to gamble should be given equal opportunity and attention. It is their money and they game they want to play is theirs, so denying them is similar to denying physically challenge people access to what should be accessible to all irrespective of their health condition. By the way, I do not see restriction for mentally unstable people in the TOS of casinos so there is no basis for not allowing them to gamble. 

In the first place, if the person is mentally unstable, would he understand what he is going into or what he is doing? And as you said, nothing is mentioned in the ToS, so even if a mentally unstable person will access the site, they won't have problem getting in. Also, it is like a discrimination of someone else's state of mind.


This is very prone to bias as only professionals can really identify a person if he is indeed mentally stable or not. So a regular gambler or bettor can't just tell one person that he is not in good condition to play. You can offend someone if you do so and you may never know his true condition.

It's a different category but it happens in real life that gambling can destroy someone's life and fortune. They're irresponsible gamblers and they don't see it coming and with their attention that have been purely included to gambling, they're having problems of reiterating if they're really smart or they've been outsmarted by the industry that they have been into it. Those that can't move on with gambling and have destroyed their lives on it, they probably have thought that they don't need someone's help and that's why they've took themselves to the path that they think they can handle it without asking anyone.

In general, it can hit everyone whether you're rich, poor, or average person. Whether you're professionally titled with your job or not, what matters here is that what you've said that it's not going to spare anyone with it. One thing that every gambler needs to remember is on how to handle our emotions because if we're not able to do it, we're just throwing our lives and money elsewhere without any direction.

If the casino will push a ban, that will be most likely because of their behavior in the casino site, not because of how they dress or how they look like when gambling. There are some people who are not really cautious of how they look physically, because as long as they don’t harm others and they’re not giving other gamblers a hassle, I guess that would be fine.

But when it comes to unusual or unethical behavior presented in the gambling site, of course the casino staff should make an action to that. Not just for the sake of other gamblers, but also for the sake of that person as he might be losing all his money without knowing in the first place why he lose them all, that he’s not consciously aware that he gamble them all.

If for example the situation he was identified as having a mental disorder in him then obviously of course the casino would definitely secure the person, they already know what they have to do if they find someone like that and we don't need to suggest anything because surely if we and the casino think using common sense in terms of making a decision then surely the results of the decision will not be much different, because if it is not immediately addressed then the impact will definitely be significant where most likely he will destroy all the excitement that is being felt by other visitors who are there or even do some actions that can hurt visitors who are there.

There is no need to be too complicated in terms of responding to this problem, simply the casino only needs to evict the person and ensure that the person will not return there if for example the person is indicated to have a mental disorder, and the rest for mental problems is the person's business and the casino will not be able to take care of something that is not their business. On the other hand, I understand that you are suggesting something good above, but they are mentally challenged people whose minds are different from normal people who do not care about their dirty and shabby condition, unless there is one person who really cares about them and wants to take care of them.

Being a casino manager is different. Instead of gloss and glam, its about safety and ensuring everyone has fun. Now, you're right about immediately taking action against a troublemaker, especially if they're mentally ill. Keep the experience for others, easy.

Saying "someone who cares" should help the mentally sick isnt all. Okay, casinos arent hospitals. We have responsibilities as a community. More than tossing folks out, its connecting them with support. Our responsibility to others extends beyond the profit line. Understanding those problems is crucial. Viewing the big picture, the human side. This casino management lesson talks on philosophy and how we treat the needy. How we do things right: empathy, knowledge, action.

Wait, is your comment in reverence to online casinos or physical gambling outlets? Asking because you kept saying casino site or gambling site, and I was wondering how possible is it that the management of an online casino will be able to see, view or know what a player is wearing, or how a customer is dressed while he or she is online with his mobile phone or pc gambling.

If you comment is in reverence to physical gambling outlet or casinos, then you definitely are right with all that you have said, but if you are talking about online casinos as your comments depicts with your mentions of casino and or gambling sites, then you are absolutely wrong, as a matter of fact, there have been times I even play or check my bets online while am naked in my room 😂, most at times, it's while coming out from the shower, or just about to go in, so you definitely don't want to tell me that the management of an online casino know when am naked and when am not 😂.

Of a truth, there's no restriction that forbids anyone that's above 18 to gamble in most of the online and offline gambling sites but for mentally unstable persons, I don't think it's a good decision to allow them engage in gambling when when they're old enough to gamble and I have my reasons for saying such. For someone to engage in gambling, it's best that the person is mentally strong enough to take decisions before, during and after gambling so the person doesn't end up using every money in his disposal to gamble. Mentally unstable people in most cases do not know the effect of their decisions and that's why they're always engaging in harmful activities so it's totally wrong for anyone to allow a mentally unstable person to engage in gambling. If they must gamble, they should be monitored by an adult who will help them take good gambling decisions.

Because he doesn't attack other visitors in any way, is the reason he's still allowed to be a regular gambler in the shop. Nobody is sure what's actually wrong with the gambler in the description, but it seems he's not completely in control of himself or has nobody dear to him that'll take good care of him. Maybe his type of work also made him look the way people see him. That doesn't define the man as a mentally disordered person. These days something is considered a problem if the person is inflicting pains on other people around him. Once a player is safe and doesn't act strange everything will seem right with the person. Another scary aspect of this is that nobody has bothered talking to him, and ask few questions regarding his gambling habit.

Even the managers of the place who are concerned about their money, may not have asked him of such thing. To him he's fine but to the world around him he's mentally disordered due to his appearance. It's a complicated case as no close friend has visited the casino to complain about the player's misbehavior in their environment. I have seen some neatly dressed gamblers who are being reported to the gambling outlet by their close family regarding their Ill behavior in the house. Maybe gambling their pocket money or always demanding for money. The man here, has a work and plays with his money. I think he's cool, since nobody has been reportedly affected by his gambling activity.

Mentally unstable people can do anything but it does not mean that they are doing it the right way. They might damage the machine and they can do harm to the other gamblers inside the casino, so even if we like to treat them equally like any other normal customers, we are sorry that we can't for that reason but we are always glad to give them a special attention that they needed to.

Sometimes it's better if a mentally challenged person can be like this or they will roam outside because they can't get help if they will only stay indoors. Physically challenged people on the other hand are more allowed than them but it's only sad that some of them still can't play on their own if they wanted to. 

I think gambling should be for everybody,there is no way you can stop mentally unstable people from gamble if they have their personal self phone.But If we are talking about mentally unstable people,they are of different types,some of them can relate with people,while some of them are really insane and can destroy things and even human being if they come close to where people stay.So I think those ones who are not really disturbed to the extent of destroying things still have a chance of being sane in life,so those ones can gamble.But the ones who aren't really okay shouldnt be allowed to get to where human being are.

Any mentally unstable person getting into gambling should be ready to get addicted and obviously gambling is not for those that have any form of mental issues because at such level such person won't be able to control the emotions and for that they can easilyake unrealistic decisions that can easily affect their well being and for some reason they should be kept away from gambling at all cost.

It’s true, because if gambling addiction develops even in those who have complete self-control and are generally in excellent mental health, then gambling poses a very great danger to everyone who experiences some kind of mental problems. I’m scared to imagine that someone else uses alcohol or drugs while gambling.
Then an incredibly dangerous condition arises in which money absolutely ceases to have any value. But money management is very important, and we should never forget about it.

Speaking on the side of those personnel who do allowed those mentally unstable person to play in the vicinity then this is something that cant really be seen unless if there would really be some obvious actions
or form or behavior then it would really be prohibited to be able to get inside on the vicinity but if its not then they could really freely get inside and whatever the actions that they would be making inside
on the time that they would be playing then it would really be surely be known on late manner and this is where things would really be found out. As for the question if they are allowed to gamble?
As long they are aware of the things they've been doing but literally that they arent in good condition then it would really be safe to say that they shouldnt gamble at all.
Getting addicted or other actions be made could really be possibly to happen due to such condition.

But if you're concern to someone's welfare that you think that they shouldn't gamble, then all you have to do is to advice them that they should stop if seen to have mental problems.

There's no problem if someone doesn't have any problem that's being shown to the others.

If they can gamble and knows what they're up to, they're aware of the surroundings and can control themselves then 100%, they can.

Well you are totally right, and also when people get addicted in gambling, it's always hard for them to maintain relationships  because they are focused on gambling and peer pressure as you said can also contribute to gambling addiction because they see that there friends or loved ones are benefitting from it, so they also want to give it a try, by so doing, they started developing the feelings of gambling maybe if they are lucky to win certain amount of money when they just started, that way can also lead to addiction and also it's true that gambling addiction can be passed down in families especially if the any of the family members are exposed to gambling from a young age, that one is a very serious case which is one of the dangerous experience because before you can change from it, it's only by God grace and these set of people are always in fond of begging and are ready to do anything just for them to get money to  gamble, some, if you can't help them, they have become your enemy. Although I think gambling it's for everyone but people should really be careful when gambling because once one is turn to addict, it won't turn out well.

Certainly not, but I doubt that any country prohibits certain people from gambling or that any casino requires a medical certificate from all its customers.

The main characteristic that differentiates a pathological gambler (who has a mental problem or addiction) from a responsible gambler is the cognitive distortion he has about the game. Calm down, I'll explain better....

Cognitive distortion is defined as an illusion of control over the game, that is, of controlling the results (which we know are random). This illusion of control can be manifested either when the person believes that they have already "mastered" the moves or when they believe that they know how to interpret certain "environmental signals" that are not actually influencing anything in the game.
In addition to this characteristic, pathological gamblers also display traits of impulsivity that probably emerged in childhood, and use gambling as a way of seeking a form of psychological pleasure.
The responsible player knows the limits and risks of the game, is always playing according to the odds and knows when to stop... something that a person with mental problems would be unlikely to achieve.

Players who have this type of problem and cannot control their excessive gambling behavior should seek psychiatric treatment and stay away from gambling.

The issues is the state of mind, what’s the person thought at that moment when placing a bet and the reaction taken after seeing the end result either good or bad. Mentally unstable person should avoid public areas like a casino center for example for customers safety, the casino in question might lose customers if they continually provide service to a mental ill person because everyone is watching around and I will not like being in same space with such person likewise others also. At that state, the least service anyone can render is treatment not gamble because it sound as selfishness from my view.

Some mental illness people do organize them self and to avoid any distraction because they know about their situation and they can do anything it they start acting so they make sure they keep calm and do what ever they want to achieve their desires, well I guess the mental illness is not too much but it is okey for them to handle it

What "mentally unstable" may look like to you could be quite different. People should realize that we are not talking about people who are half naked running down the street when we say this, there are a lot of people who are mentally unstable but do not show it right away.

We could be talking about someone who is a close friend of yours, or some person working at your company. I mean do you really think that kids who shoot up schools show their guns and threaten people beforehand? They do not do that at all, we are usually unaware who is mentally unstable. So we can't really see who they are, and what they are going through mentally and since we can't that means we would not be able to actually show them anything at all, it would be quite near impossible stop them.

By the name they are mentally unstable they that means they are not organize. With having those illness they can't have proper focus since they are bothered with their issues and might they can cause a lot of troubles to the people who's playing in same venue if they are playing on physical casino or they disturb the operation of the casino which is legitimately running and they just want to troll them because they want to take revenge on what they experience. They are mentally unstable and that is risky person to deal with.

That's why if you know someone close to you having this issues then give him an advice or tell it to his family members that these person is not doing well and he might experience a lot of trouble if he can't get proper guidance or immediate help by professionals who can help on his issues facing on.

If they knows that they have mental illness and don't do something that can harm many people, that will be good for them. But we knows that people with mental illness can do something that we never realizes and that can harm people around them because what they do will not be predicted for other people. It's better that those people doesn't playing gambling to avoids something bad that can harm many people in that place, including themselves because when they do something bad, they will not realizes. Other people can't helps them because they are afraid that they can becomes the victims and gets injured. It's a duty for their family to keeps an eye of their family members who have mental illness not to around many people so there will be no people harm because of them.