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Me and some friends interested in starting a community of canvas tents out in the Appalachian mountains.  The goal is to create a tribe like voluntary structure where each member contributes to the community, while living sustainably and in synchronization with nature.  This project would help demonstrate the ease, efficiency and effectiveness of living in state free communities and working with those around you instead of competing them.  It would show people another way of living, a minimized yet comfortable way to live in harmony with the world and those around you.

Tents would cost around $100-150 month to sustain development and expenses such as the land.  We would ask that each person that joins the community brings what they can to contribute to the cause, whether it's a skill, useful materials or otherwise.  The community is not made for us to sit around and relax all day - although when it is time to relax, it will be quite nice in the environment - we will be working and producing what we can to help as many people as possible.

We would grow organic foods, I would be raising chickens for their eggs and selling them locally around the area.  I would like to distribute other whole foods and items, including pottery and furniture.

This would be a spiritual community where each person who lives there is on the path to better their own mind, spirit and health.  This would be a place for those who seek to learn more about their existence, a safe haven for the awakening and awakened.  It will be my goal to teach others the knowledge and wisdom I know and to ultimately share the power I hold - complete peace no matter what may be happening or who may be attempting harm unto you.  If you feel true peace, no one can do you any harm.  My psychologist (who is open minded and in tune with the spiritual nature of life) told me a story of a girl that was about to be raped, but she felt complete peace so the rapist couldn't get himself to do it.  To the perpetrator, the only thing scarier than fear is someone who shows no fear in the abundance of great amounts of it.

This community would give me the environment to write the Tale of Dank in an optimal atmosphere to ensure the book is written as well and as deeply as it possibly could be.  Sales of the book would help fund the community and fulfill financial obligations.

Energy would be collected via solar panels that would be shared amongst the members.  There would be a central bathroom that is shared to minimize expenses and footprint of the community.  Water would be collected from either a nearby stream, a well or rainwater collected from a sheet metal roof into a 250 gallon tank (depending on the land available and cost).

Each tent would come with a small wood burning stove to keep them warm through the winter months to come.  The size of the tents range from 133 sqft, 210 sqft and 304 sqft.

Ultimately, the impact this community could have on the world could be revolutionary to those who hear of it.  It will show the world working proof of another way of living.  A way that doesn't involve war, a way that doesn't subject the 'low' class to committing the deeds of those 'above' them.  A way where we are truly free, not bound by a schedule or the will of someone else for monetary pay.  A way where you work because you believe in the work you're doing, not because you need it to get by.  A way where humans can finally reconnect with nature and one another.  A way where we can live self sufficiently and sustainably - our current path is not the least bit sustainable.

I would also have the opportunity to record and produce music in this community.  The better the set and setting, the better the music.  I would be able to release two to three albums I have planned, one being a collaboration with Aggressively Passive.  Hopefully I would then be able to perform around the local area and back towards home around Raleigh.  The music would raise awareness for the words I sing and the music festival.

This community would provide the foundation needed to have the ascension festival in a near time frame.

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Look, I understand that hoarding bitcoin in the hopes of making it big one day is a very enticing idea, but we have to realize something; bitcoin got to where it is today because it offered an idea.  An idea that blasphemed state oppression.  An idea that removed our dependence on central authorities and all that comes with them.  An idea that brought us closer to a free market.  Bitcoin gave people hope for a better world, though the truth is, money will never change the world.  People change the world.  Only once we release from our obsession with greed can the world actually be changed.  If everyone keeps waiting for others to make the change in the world that we could so badly use - it will never happen.  Ideas of a better world mean little unless they are practiced and executed into reality.

I've attached a spreadsheet giving a brief overview of the expenses and revenue.  It's malleable for change in variables including land and community size.  Also, I've found tent stoves for a much lower price but I've left it the same to reflect the higher end scenario.

Thank you for your time.

http://www.filedropper.com/community

Oh boy... another Dank thread yay!

I guess this is the part where we're
supposed to tell you pay back Squall
before you ask for another loan.

And then, lets see...oh yeah, then
I guess someone should mention the plan is crazy
and has no chance and making an ROI,
and why would anyone lend that much
money to hippies.

Ok, done :)

Why don't you do something other than shill?

You're not talking about the idea the topic portrays, you're ridiculing with absolutely no basis for anything you say.

I understand you asking for funding for what you consider a great idea but I fail to see why you are reaching out to the "bitcoin community" to do so.

It seems to me that the greatest benefit would be to the members who live in the community you propose

perhaps you would be best served in seeking their investment since they would see any return?

I'm seeking to create a community, I do not know of any communities like this in the area.

Because a ridiculous request deserves to be answered in kind.  
Surely you didn't expect a serious response from anyone
here, after all your shenanigans.  You just want attention.
I guess you deserve a little attention because you keep
posting entertainment for us.

As for your idea, its in the realm of the absurd.  
Create a "self sustaining" community...by asking
for a loan?   :D  No thanks.    People who can
be really self-sustaining are already doing so.
Maybe you should seek them out.

If you really want to beg for money, look into
government grants... there's all kinds of BS they
give money for... i'm sure you'll get money
from them faster than from us.


 




 

good for you...but you still don't address why we should invest

if we were living there, I would understand but as an outsider, there is no observable benefit

I would suggest you seek investment from those wishing to occupy the tents in your "community"

Same ol' story with a different twist. Dank, stop lying to yourself. You're not asking for a loan, what you're doing is begging, because you know if anyone gave you money, you won't be paying it back.

Your sales pitch is too long  ;)

You know, I really had no expectations of getting this loan fulfilled.  At a minimum, I wanted to share an idea with the world.  This is how we should be living.  Our way on life is completely unsustainable and is leading to the destruction of our planet.

Those Native Americans we slaughtered when we came over and stole their land had a much better lifestyle than we do now.

http://www.intimidated.org/cache/native-american/quotes/two-eagles-where-white-man-went-wrong_w520_int_wm.jpg


The spreadsheet demonstrates approximately $1400/month revenue off a $40,000 investment.  Allocation of funds can be discussed with anyone who may be interested.

Moreso, this is an idea that would actually put bitcoins to work.  Bitcoin has absolutely no value if every person that has them is hoarding them in the hopes of getting rich - there's no economy behind it, no commerce, no trade, no progression.  You all want bitcoin to be a prospering currency/commodity, yet little people do anything other than create websites and business that profit off the very concept of the currency.

This is exactly the problem with currencies and greed - someone can have a great idea that will better the world and human beings, but it will never take off because it's not 'profitable' enough.  Yet those that fathom deceptive schemes that earn gross amounts of money get funded and boosted into society, because all that matters to those involved is profit.  We are trading quality of life, even the presence of life (big pharma) for monetary gain.  We value fancy cars or giant homes more than human life.  We value our materials more than ourselves, and for what?  So others will think a certain way about you?  When will we start thinking highly of ourselves?  Capitalism and monetary systems retard humanity's progression as a species.

Stop looking in your wallet to see what's profitable, look into your soul.  What you can profit in your soul - inner peace - is infinitely more valuable than any amount of money you profit with.

Dank will be the village chief and teach the community to ask a loan without collateral

No!

Vote dank for Mayor! haha!

Yep.  That's the way a society improves through the free market.  You have to provide trade-able value to others.
Nothing wrong with charitable works and random acts of kindness, of course.  If you want to give me some
Bitcoins, I'll accept them graciously.

Dank. You should take about 20mg of 25b-nBOME and think this plan over.

I found 20 acres of land going for 400 a month as a rental.  I could get this community going for $10,000, starting with 5 rental tents.  At $15,000 we could have 12 tents up and making anywhere up to $1500/month income - meaning the loan could be paid back within a year and a half to two years.

At $20,000 we could have 18 tents up generating around $2500/month.  If we only subtract enough money for the cost of the land, the loan could be paid off within a year.

Interest would be on your terms.

That's not true.  You're not even making payments on your existing loan.

Have you ever successfully executed a business plan before?

scamming business

This is in the wrong section. This belongs in Of Topic since your asking for donations, not a loan.

well, that was yet another nice read. :)

If I had an income I would be.


Yes, but I stopped when I was scammed for $500, twice, and unable to proceed, thus being unable to fulfill the obligation with squall.


No, I am asking for a loan.


Why do you guys feel the need to troll?  Are you filled with so much hate that you will do whatever you can to stop dank from succeeding, or are you filled with so much fear to lose your precious illusionary 'control' over your life, or even to admit that dank is right?

ok...not to be rude, but I think it needs to be said.   If this is true you are either an idiot or a scammer....I can't conceive of any other viable option here

if you have a decent business plan, getting scammed as you suggest is unlikely...unless you are just unbelievably naive.

This is not called trolling - this is called giving you a needed reality check.

You are not keeping your promise on a previous loan, and you keep asking for new loans.

You have some sort of income - you obviously eat, you buy drugs, you go to movies, you buy gas for your bike - but you don't send even a penny to repay existing loans.
 
  

Going to have to agree with Vod on this one.

Haven't been on here long but from what I can see thus far dank is a frigging hippy scammer with some obvious mental health issues.

maybe you should look up success in the dictionary.  getting scammed and never making a profit isn't it.

also I think you don't understand what trolling is either.  you are the troll here IMO.

Dank, do you think it's in any way indicative of your own inability to succeed (or lack of self-efficacy, whatever) that you're so dependent on everyone else to get *anything* done?

How do you reconcile this inability to succeed or acquire any type of income by yourself with your claims of divinity and your claims that you have pushed the boundaries of human ability beyond what the average person would consider possible? 

I'm going to be blunt instead of my usual "let's give Dank a chance to explain his unique viewpoint" approach -- you sound like one of the laziest, most selfish individuals I've ever met, and whether by denial, stupidity, or just juvenile egocentrism, you've created a mountain of evidence which suggests you are a social parasite and little more.

You can't possibly be proud of your lack of effort and genuine attempts at paying your debts...are you?

Why can't you just join one that's already existing? Because you won't make any profit? Stop being such a leech and a failure. If you want to succeed you'll have to actually put effort into it, you've been begging for other people to fund your ideas for years now, and where are you now? A homeless bum, still begging for money.

Dank's entire contribution would be singing songs and collecting/selling community eggs.  No existing community will accept him - most places require you to pull your own weight at the minimum, and add value to the community.

This same reason is why any cooperative run by dank would never succeed - the other members would eventually realize they are doing all the work and dank is just a mooch and a liar.

Dank, you have never executed a successful business plan in your life.  So, you lack the experience and understanding to see that your plan could or would likely fail and how.  And when I say fail, I mean fail to return a profit, which is the only thing that matters to an investor of which you seem to want so much.

But more serious is that you lack the honesty to even admit a simple truth.  In this case, the truth that you have never executed a successful business plan.  You tried to convince yourself you had.  

You guys are just putting more wood on the flame.

Although I do like a good campfire...

atleast we have something to laugh about.

Dank,

You can rent Hookah's in the tents and make even more money!

No, you're asking for a free handout as you have absolutely no intention of paying it back. How is Squall's loan payback going by the way?

Independence is an illusion.  We are all interdependent ant of one another.  You rely just as much on the people who feed you and employ you as anyone else, unless you're completely self sufficient.

What is wrong with the fact that I refuse to subject myself as a wage slave?  No, I will not feed people monsanto garbage at subway or silly putty burgers at mcdonalds.  Am I a worse person because I refuse to help destroy our planet and lives?  Am I worse of a person because I won't subject myself to taxes that support a government that murders ungodly amounts of people?

I will not sacrifice my values or beliefs for monetary bribery, which is exactly what our society revolves around.  We should all be working for ourselves, doing as we want to be done in the world, not what some corporate business model wants you to do, that's exactly how the world got to be how it is today.


Right, I was making over 1000 a week but I guess that's not successful enough for you.  Only reason it ended is because two suppliers simultaneously ripped me off.  That is why I couldn't pay squall, you all are blaming the wrong person.

 
There would be a tent with a compost toilet and shower head.


In the most respectful way, you're full of shit.  I have not had the chance to pay squall back since I have been trolled the lights out of me since then.  If you gave a damn about squall, you would stop trolling me and give me a shot to correct the mistake someone else caused.

What scammer uses the same account years later and repays a large amount of the debt?  The only reason you are so adamant to think I am some scammer/troll is because your mind is too weak to contemplate or accept who I truly am and what I will do with this world.  Its a hell of a lot easier to continue judging someone once you begin.  It takes strength and humility to take back your doubtful words and judgments.

ok fine, let's say you were successful selling drugs before you got ripped off.   If you believe in your heart that that counts as a business success, then more power to you.  but it has way less moving parts than trying to run a community.  I actually looked at your original spreadsheet.  it doesn't have enough detail and show how the cash would be coming in.  you should identify risks to see where the plan can fail.  the best laid plans of mice and men dude,.....   so where does the revenue come from?  eggs?  how many eggs do you think you can sell, and how much profit margin?  if you have chickens, they need food and supplies.  some might get sick.  what if you can't sell as many eggs as you think?  how will you sell the eggs?  how will you travel down from the mountains to peddle your goods?  doesn't it require transportation , which costs money?  

It was said in the spreadsheet, as well as the OP, that revenue would be generated by monthly donations of 100-150 from dwellers to cover the cost of land and supplies. On top of that, each person would do their own part to create goods to contribute to society.

I have no concerns of the community not meeting required income levels.

Also, there are already various foods growing on the property, which will supplement the crops we grow.

dank would make a good story teller. Everyone gather around the campfire!!!!

Oh, Dank.

You mustn't actually believe anyone will 'lend' you anything when you create these threads...

Read some of the more direct responses you have received and take them to heart. Try to get rid of your ego and realise how your actions have a negative effect on others.

I guess you don't get it.  that's not a business plan lenders would have confidence in.


what's wrong is that you owe money, so you should get a job.  pay the debt, and  after that, be a bum if you want.  ......destroying the planet and lives by working at Subway? give us a freaking break.  Just excuses cause you are lazy/unwilling to work.

Dank, Dank, Dank. When is the penny finally going to drop nobody is going to give you anymore money?

You're not trying to correct the mistake at all!  You are lying to yourself if you tell yourself you are.

You have income and you have assets.  You continue to spend money on yourself.  You haven't sent a single PENNY to Squall in months.

Until you start making regular payments, you are a deadbeat and you will not get any more money.  Stop asking for more loans.

1)  Okay, I'll agree with you that we are all interdependent, and that is why...

2) ...a good society is dependent upon the contributions from *all* of its citizens!  Its 'wrong' to refuse to subject yourself as a 'wage slave' because you're asking for money from people who ARE wage slaves.  In fact, if there were no wage slaves, then there would be nobody to give you money at all.  You're just acting like a baby and complaining that we, your fellow citizens, actually expect you to contribute something.

3)  Fine.  You don't have to sacrifice your values or beliefs, and we don't have to give you money.  We *are* working for ourselves, but you're not, which is why you continue to receive exactly what you deserve -- nothing.   

Dank, why don't do something with your life and stop being so lame?

I approve of your entrepreneurial spirit, but getting
a day job and saving money is the only way you'll acquire
startup capital.  Hear me now and believe me later.

No one will give you any handouts.

Shouldn't you be building shelters out of what nature has provided you with? Think of all the resources used up manufacturing those tents! Think of all the 'wage slave' workers that made them, you would then be supporting and encouraging! :D

Why do you all think I don't want to contribute anything?  I'm trying to grow food, give people a place to live and create music to help people find meaning and inner peace in their life, is that nothing?  I could become a corporate CEO and rip people the fuck off of their livelihood and you guys would be so impressed with my wealth.  My parents would love it if I joined the army and helped kill people, but not if I want to live a simplistic life with a minimal footprint.  What the hell is wrong with this world?

I have put in more work to my life than you guys can imagine.  Just because I prefer to teach myself then be instructed by someone at a school doesn't make me dumb just as it doesn't make me lazy.  Just because I prefer to work for myself than some rich CEO, doesn't make me less of a person.  We should all be working for ourselves, living our own lives and helping one another.  We got into the mess our society is in by refuting our freewill to hierarchical structures with the reasoning that we must do it to survive.

I have spent several years of my life researching and sharing my knowledge with the world, free of charge.  Philosophers are paid an average of $80,000+ annually, yet I am somehow less of a contributor because I share what I know for free.  One day you will realize just how much I have done for this world, once you can grow up beyond your judgmental biases and preconceived notions fed to you in your earlier indoctrination days.

Are you a slave?  Yes.  Am I a slave?  Yes.  We all are.  But I am not going to subject myself to anymore bit of slavery than I have to.  You guys should try not attacking the guy who is working to free the world.  So much of the work you do is done to fulfill the greed of others, not because it must be done to survive, just look how much of your money goes towards taxes.  We could be living simple, enjoyable lives that don't consist of a 40+ hour work schedule, but it takes a change of culture to get there.

Are you truly working for yourselves or are you working for the will of someone else?  Or even, something else?


Why don't you do something with your life other than shilling/bullying young people on the internet?  That's why our generation will revolt against society, because the generations before us created a world where the following generations are completely fucked from the beginning.  The greedy have created a society that does not give kids a chance to prosper or succeed.  You either fall in line or you're screwed.

I am sitting here, trying to create a community that would give several people a place to live, food to eat, whilst producing free music for all to hear, with the end goal of organizing a music festival of a million people that will ascend humanity into the fifth dimension, yet I'm not doing anything with my life?

You do realize it would take several years to get where I need to go by working a day job this day and age, right?  Squall would get his money maybe three years from now, it would take me at least a year before I am able to produce music and play guitar in a suitable environment.

Want me to get a job?  Don't create a society as shitty as this one.  Excuse me for trying to create my own society that doesn't revolve around central authorities that slaughter people and capitalistic societies that don't give a damn about anything other than profit.

One day you all will appreciate everything I have done for you.

Wrong again, scammer.

I'm not a slave.  I choose the work I like to do, and when I finish I am rewarded with money, which I can trade for whatever I want.  It's a winning situation for me.

You consider yourself a slave because you have no useful skills and cannot relate to people in a useful manner.  Your god complex will not help you in today's educated society.

Right, just keep paying your taxes you ignorant wage slave.  The best way to enslave a population is to convince them they are free.

You're a slave to greed, you're a slave to fear and you're a slave to uncle sam.

Educated society, you are quite hysterical.

Millions dying of cancer, heart disease, gross over contemptuous life styles, vast depletion of resources, horrific destruction of our environment, eminent extinction of vital species such as bees, installation of fracking sites that pump billions of gallons of toxic waste into our drinking water.

We have radiation leaking around the globe from fukishima, grotesque oil spills killing off ocean life, an island of trash floating in the Pacific the size of texas.

We are at constant war, we have enough nuclear warheads to destroy our planet forty times, we developed chemical weapons that melt people's bones.

We have a brainwashed population that is obsessed with egocentric life styles, that blindly follows corrupt psychotic 'leaders' hearding us straight to our death.

We have alarming amounts of people committing suicide, others committing homicide.  We outlaw nature's plants while promoting and pushing synthetic derivatives into kids and anyone possible.

We consume earth's oil when we can grow more than enough biodiesel from hemp.

We are living highly unsustainable lives, at the rate we are going, we will surely walk straight to our own extinction.

Yes, our educated ego minds are so very smart, yet so amazingly stupid at the same time.

Its time go get back in touch with our spiritual nature once again.  Only then can we realize that all that we took from earth, we could have done with our own minds.

“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
― Gautama Buddha

My taxes go to services such as roads, so I can drive places, and the police, so I don't need to 24x7 worry about being attacked.  It's a great trade off.  I do something I enjoy, I can spend the money on whatever I want, and I am protected and given everything I need.  I would be the last person a government could enslave, for I am more intelligent than the government.

I believe everyone is greedy (everyone wants more) - some of us will work for it, others will ask for handouts.  No one will ever appreciate you, because you will never do anything for anyone.  You will always be the person with the cap out, asking for money and believing you deserve it for some reason.  You will always be ignorant about life.


The point is, stop asking for more money until you repay the money you asked for last time.  Stop being a financial shill.   :-\

Because you refuse to get a job.  And you're under the delusion that
there's another way.  I just got done telling you that if you want
to be an entrepreneur, first you need to WORK to get the startup
capital.   If you want another way to contribute, join the
peace corps or the army... that's the only options.  

Being a serial dreamer/moocher/borrower isn't contributing.



Trying isn't the same thing as accomplishing.  I could TRY
to become an NBA basketball player but it would never happen.
One needs to be realistic with their potential and with what
they can probably accomplish within a certain amount of time.
You are completely unrealistic about what you think you can
accomplish, especially when it comes to being a community
leader, musician, and philosopher.  You're an amateur at best.

Maybe you could be somebody someday, but you need to
work until then.  I bet your parents have told you the same
thing, haven't they?


No you couldn't.  At least, not without getting off the drugs,
and putting in years or decades of hard work.


Because your freely shared knowledge isn't worth paying anything for.
You haven't elevated it to a commercial level, plain and simple.
That doesn't make you a bad person, but it does mean that you
aren't contributing anything that someone wants to pay for, and
therefore, you need to find something else to do as a profession.
Is this concept too hard for you to grasp?


First of all, I do.  I pay my own way  in life with
money that i've earned through my own efforts.
 
Secondly, I'm not bullying you.  I don't follow
you around telling you how you need to live.
YOU are the one starting threads asking for money.
I'm merely part of the universe that's responding.


Better get started then working that day job.
You'll make money at that way faster than
trying to be a guitarist, especially considering
your current musical skills.  It takes years and
decades to become a pro musician.


The world is shitty, so you're just going to
give up on trying to earn an honest day's pay
and be a mooch.  Sounds like defeatism.
Sounds like hidden laziness.  Sounds like
rationalization.  Doesn't sound powerful.


I appreciate you posting amusing stuff.  I respond because
its fun, but I hope one day you'll grow up... for your own sake.
And one day (I hope) you will appreciate all my posts and advice. :)

Less than 2% of your taxes go towards maintaining roads.  What about the 30% that goes towards killing people and maintaining our power structure as the global police?  That doesn't bother you?

And the police?  The same police that brutalize the citizens they swore to protect?  You do realize, police do not stop crime, right?  They show up after it happens.

If you don't want to worry about being attacked, you need to find peace, aka love, aka god.  Only then can you truly be worry free of violent attacks.  You attract to your reality vibrations you resonate at.  Fear something and you're only manifesting it into reality.

The Beatles said "all we need is love" and then they broke up...see how that worked out?

Just wow. The OP is clearly out there, in the mountains, smoking some good nature.

Stop talking like that.
You have no idea what you are even saying.
Aren't you like 18 ? Wow you must have so much world and life experience... To share..  
You think you have taught yourself, and others, all this crap but really its how you justify being a lazy deadbeat.

Go practice collecting eggs because as your main skill set you are going to need it... and Jesus... your not even aspiring to being the person to look after the chickens/farm... but your contribution will be "collecting the eggs". Don't tire yourself out.
 


BTW Do you really think people who get violently attack, woman who get raped etc.. Do you believe they are resonating out vibrations which attract what happens to them ?

does any one know this guys age, Maybe he has ADD or something, He likes attention and never got enough of it, why we are all enabling him, why dont we just ignore his posts, unless you love this entertainment?

Better that than a slave to drugs and a irreparable broken mind.

Dank is 20 I think. and yes I like the entertainment...but hopefully we are helping this young man someday break out of his stagnation.

I would like to donate 3 fishes and a loaf just to get you started, god only needed 2 fishes but i think you need just a little bit more help than he did my friend.
Give me your address and i will donate 0.03 coins as the entertainment is worth it alone dank :) and the fact i have a heart and do feel sorry for you even though you got yourself into this situation

dank , legendary beggar, no-hoper and general nutcase! Who in their right mind would 'invest' in anything this retard is involved in????

That .03 BTC would be better off going to people Dank owes money to.  Send it to Squall.

user squall1066?

I donated to squall on your behalf dank as how would you feel if someone you loaned your bike to didnt bring it back? Only helping you pay a very small fraction of your debt as times are hard   ::)

I would resist from doing that. Coins might go up in value, first thing Dank will do is buy drugs with it. Out of his face on the drugs he could jump on that bike of his, take it for another joyride, smashing into a family car, car spins off road, hits a tree and explodes, kill mums, dad and two kids.

You would feel indirectly responsible.

Dank walks away with a graze on his knee, and blames everything and everyone else for the accident, apart from himself. In fact his sick mind will twist it around he's done them a favour.

I donated it to squall on his behalf as its obviously the right thing to do, Helping him by giving it to squall seems the right thing :)

Received, Thats fantastic, Thanks alot, Kudos to you!

No problem m8, hope dank appreciates not everyone is out to get him but sort his head out and see the big picture. You cant go around constantly taking and not paying your way, some poor sod is going to pay for it at the end of the line. Where is all the love in that dank that you preach of?

He spent all his love on drugs. Wonder if he's worked out yet the drugs will never love him back?

Such a waste, talks about other peoples greed and stupidity to pay taxes and what not but takes from someone to feed his own greed, pays taxes on gas, oil to keep his bike running, pays taxes on that fat mcdonalds hes stuffing into his face and pays over the odds on the drugs he takes. you do realise even though its not called tax but every time that drug is passed down to the next dealer they are putting a tax on it for there part in getting it to the dead beat person on the street. so enjoy your taxed drug my friend. I think this psycho that you see needs a doctor himself if he is backing your world domination. Grow up

lmao @ everything in this post.

Where did you get the idea I wouldn't be maintaining the chickens?  I plan on caring for the chickens and a variety of organic vegetables.

You sound like you have some paranoid delusions there, bud.


You do realize that everything that exists on this planet is a drug, correct?  Everything is chemicals.  If you're going to judge someone for using a substance less toxic than vitamin C, then you might want to reevaluate your perception on life.

Eating other living flesh is okay, but feeding off mind opening drugs, that's bad, mkay?


Mcdonalds is disgusting, their food is 85% ammonia, cancerous, and contains ingredients from silly putty.

Does a portion of the money I spend go towards sales taxes?  Yes.  But that doesn't mean I have to go and work for a corporation whilst supporting the government beyond the essential extent to survive in this society.

Every single commodity being exchanged has some form of 'tax' on it, in those terms, people mark up prices because our greed based society mandates that everyone competes with each other in order to earn income to survive.  My philosophy is a little different, instead of competing with one another and retarding progression as a species, we should be working with one another and evolving at an exponential rate.

And thank you for donating that bit to squall, I appreciate the thought.

Its almost September, did you find any good boxes dank?

You know full well what I'm talking about. There's more to life than getting high on drugs. Sure, if getting high is you thing, nothing wrong with that. Enjoy it.

But your entire life revolves around drugs. Nothing else matters but when that next 'fix' is coming.

That my friend, is sad.


Changing the subject, you do realise that self-employed people are taxed too don't you? Are you going to be paying tax on profits from this tent thing? Or is it an illegal setup?

Don't you see that you're not following your own philosophy?  "Working with one another and evolving" is the opposite of what you're doing.  Here, you are surrounded by your peers who *all* are telling you we don't believe you're contributing your fair share, and for you to demand acceptance of your beliefs while simultaneously dismissing ours is the spirit of a contrarian; you aren't working with us, but instead are actively working against us in the society we've created for ourselves, and for you.

And unfortunately, despite the many great things that society, corporations, and governments do for us, you focus explicitly on the negative, over-exaggerate it, and as a result create a belief system of extremes that inhibits you from practical decision making.  You're not evolving, and in fact you're doing the opposite in your failure to adapt to the demands of your environments, both natural and social. 

You're paralyzing yourself because the only problem(s) you see are ones that you could never come close to solving on your own.  Clever self-handicap -- if anyone ever accuses you of being lazy, just tell them that you're working on saving the whole world! 

If everyone held your perspective, everyone would quit their jobs, and society would collapse under its own weight within a matter of days-weeks once the food spoils and the gas stations run dry, and when the roads and electric grid crumble.

Isn't it interesting Dank hates 'evil corporations', but happily supports one of them by having an iPhone and at least one more charging the thing up.   ::)

No, it does not revolve around drugs anymore than any other person.  My life revolves around love.

Continue watching your TV, eating your cows and chickens, drinking your poisonous liquor, playing your video games, all of which are an alteration of consciousness.  Don't tell someone they can't use a substance that brings them closer to god just because you ingest toxins that bring you farther from yourself.

Now, you do realize your life revolves around judging and defaming a twenty year old on the internet, right?  That, my friend, is sad.

You do realize I give zero fucks about the system, correct?  The only way to save humanity is to create a new society that is love based rather than greed based.


Well in a kindest way, no shit I'm not working with all those around me, they won't give me a chance.  I'm not demanding acceptance of any beliefs, if you want to believe in ego, negativity, fear, doubt AKA satan, go right ahead.  You know where that leads.  If you want to believe in peace and infinity, you oughta listen up to what I have to say.

This society was not created for me.  This society was created for you, by you.  This society was created for the people in the system now to reap the most benefits over everybody.  Society never gave a fuck about the generations coming next, the previous generation's greed has constructed a society that heists them on top and puts the youth at the bottom as cheap labor.

It simply is not true.  Why do you hold the mentality that if humans are incapable of working to support their fellow neighbors without being paid to do so?  That's what we have done for thousands and thousands of years.  If everyone had my mentality, people would realize they shouldn't allow bribery to control their lives, they would quit their job if it had no bearing on contributing positively to humanity, and they would get a job that does.  Like for example, maybe corporate CEOs would become farmers and do some honest work rather than conspiring how to dwindle the most money out of people.

The fact that we 'need' money to function and take care of another, from your perspective, is terrible.  Why can't we just share with one another and help those around us?  What if instead of chasing a fake illusion of greed, we were chasing something real, energy?  We could all be competing to contribute the most to others in order to reap the highest spiritual gain from our actions, but instead, our society tells people to take everything they can while disbanding your freewill to the will of a corporation.

Again, you can call me lazy all you want, but I have been trying insistently to get off the ground where I can contribute real goods and make a real difference in society.  I want to work.  I don't want to work for Mr rich CEO or Mr United States of Terrorism.  What is wrong with that, seriously?


I don't have an iphone..

Clearly I have to use some resources from society to become a rockstar and host a million person music festival.  Doesn't mean I have to vouch off my soul to the will of the machine.

Oh look another lie:

So let me get this straight, when everyone else in the world uses the resources of 'evil corporations' for their benefit, you label them wrong for supporting.
Yet when you use the same resources, it doesn't count? Right?

Right, because I did have an iphone, and now I don't.  It fell out of my jacket pocket when I was recording myself flying down the highway.

Try again.


As a society, we are on the road towards extinction.  We are living completely unsustainably.

As a person, I'm using minimal resources in order to bring about a change in society.  Is the cotton tent I plan on living in made from fibers from earth?  Yes.  Does the 77 pound tent use nearly as much resources as a 100 ton house?  No.

The major issue is that we are not living our own lives, we are living a facade for the will of something other than us.  If we all did what made us happy, by helping others, we wouldn't have the problems we have in the world today.  We wouldn't have these trillion dollar big pharma, big oil and big banking industries.  We wouldn't have war.  We would have prosperity and progression.  Such a gross amount of energy is going towards consumptuous life styles and building an exponentially growing society that is completely out of line with nature.  The average person leaves a negative footprint on the world, I'm doing my best to live a simplistic life while contributing to others by creating food, music and ideas for a better world.

Oh right, so you didn't throw the dirty nasty thing away because you can't live with yourself having it any longer.
You lost it involuntary, which means you would of had it now, supporting Apple!

By the way, that bike, which make is it? A big evil company made it by any chance?

How on earth can you record any videos inside your jacket pocket?

I think you missed everything I said in my last post, let me quote it for you again.


Do I use things that were made by society?  Yes.  I wear shoes, I wear pants, shirts, underwear all manufactured by large corporations.  I ride a motorcycle manufactured in Japan because that's what society offered.  The society I was born into was molded this way, so I am working with what I have.

I have a Fender Strat and Marshall amplifier, both of which I'm sure are registered as incorporation, but I am utilizing these tools to distribute a positive message of love through music.

I'm going to organize a music festival of a large scale, that will use a 140' stage, over 100 array speakers, 100 lights, a large LED video wall and a shit ton of porta pottys, all manufactured by companies.

You fall short to see the intentions of my life.  I'm living to make a positive change.  I have handed my life into the will of god, which is why I can do the things I do without fear.  I have nothing but faith, and as every day passes, that power only grows.

Don't think I think you're all horrible people for consuming earth and building society as you did, I don't.  We all do the best we can with the information given.  You did your best, just as I did my best when conducting my business with squall.  Now that doesn't mean we should close ourselves off from growing and learning.  Change is hard to do, that's human nature, but when presented with a higher understanding of life and how it could be, we oughta strive to manifest it into reality, not cling to the way it is.  If we always held onto the past, we would never move forward through time.

I believe everyone is a good person deep down.  What matters is if you believe you're a good person, not what you think but what you believe.

We had to make society the way it is for it to be as it is now.  We needed people like Hitler, Bush and Obama.  We needed them to fuck things up a bit for us to become aware of the nature of the world and learn from it.  We needed WWII to give birth to the counter culture in the 60's.  We need error in human life to learn as a species and grow.  It is the human experience.  It is all perfect is you truly see it so.  But at some point, we need to simply man up and take the information we have learned and do something with it.  We needed to create and destroy earth in order to develop intellectually to where we are now.  But now that we have found a higher level of understanding, with the power of the internet, psychedelics and the will of youth, we need to do something with it.

Rather than living the same pattern of a life indefinitely until you die, let's create a new way of life.  Let's create a world where people don't die.  I know it's possible, I know how to do it, I know I will not die, so let's stop the stupid games of judgment and doubt.  Take a step back and find some humility.  We all make mistakes, we all are wrong.  I have been wrong so many times in my life, but the only thing that matters is that I have acknowledged when I was wrong and only once you see and accept your misconceptions can you find the truth.  If you cling to the delusion you were brought up with forever, you will never find the true state of reality.

Why can't we love each other?  Why can't we be friends?  Why can't you ask questions rather than call names?  Why can't we be the product of millions of years of evolution that we are?

We can be friends.  :)

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

Maybe we are the ones trying to help you, and you just can't see it.

Anyway, back to the iPhone...

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

I think you have potential, you have some good thoughts.  
But, nearly everyone here sees you as a mooch, at the least...
because of all the loan requests, the sporadic repayments,
the refusal to get a job, etc.

So, I can consider you like that friend who's kind of a mooch.
You love him but you don't want to enable his mooching ways,
or give him money.

I agree with the idea that you should work on your dreams
WHILE you're earning a living.  That's what I did... That's
what a lot of honest, hardworking folk do that have high
aspirations.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?

if it wasnt for me, vod, and buffer, you wouldn't get any attention lol

Oh good, cause I was just going to put up a post about my starting a band.  The only thing I am missing is a Fender Strat and a Marshall amp

my plan is to create an environment where great music is generated, we get a big record contract, and I can pay back my investors in spades

I look forward to your donation of your axe and amp to the cause because I am sure you will be wanting to get involved in the ground floor of this artistic opportunity

you mean to tell me that we all should be living in fucking tents? drinking water from a stream that could have a dead animal up stream contaminating everything? Oh, dont forget about the solar panels that are expensive as hell, well, you can do it cheap if all you want to do is run a 20 watt light bulb 3 or 4 hours a day..

Then, where are you going to get all the wood for your wood burning stoves? you just cant go cut down trees that are on government ground. they would have to come off the land you own.. There was a really funny movie with jennifer anniston that came out a year or two ago that you would relate to.

I just dont know what else to say.. but you are very entertaining.. just when I think ive heard it all, I read one of your threads... What are you smoking these days?

Where is exactly is this location you are talking about?

A Sibley cotton tent is 500-1200 dollars, up to 300 square feet.  Solar panels are about $1500 for 1000 watts, that's enough to power a 100W 4.5 cuft refrigerator, a computer and plenty of lights.  Reverse osmosis system will run you about $500-$1000 dollars depending on your clean water needs.  Add a stove for $100 or so.

So, around $4000 for a comfortable setup in a tent, or $40,000-$400,000+ for an inefficient debt machine of a house.

Yeah, what's wrong with that?

I plan on having my own land.  But speaking on the matter, government's land?  Last time I checked, the government was of the people, by the people, for the people.  That is our land.


Appalachian mountains.

seem like a great idea. Maybe you could build some earthships, and cob style houses with solar and all of us might come since we get free electricity and also maybe you could call us Bitcoin city USA since we could mine and trade all day. I think it's a great idea myself but I have no Bitcoin to loan. But I'm in support of your project.

Also nice music ;D

Dream Big and don't let anybody squash your dreams.  

Thanks man, really appreciate it.  Cob houses would be awesome but they can take a while to build unless you have a good amount of people working on them.  Especially compared to these tents, they take about 20 minutes to pitch.  One day though..

Can't say the community will be bitcoin based though, I'm looking for this community to transcend beyond money with time.  Just humans helping humans live, like the good ole days.

Maybe we could all build a community cob house if the manpower is there.

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

I have no problem with tits personally.

But in all seriousness, tent stoves exist and will suffice in keeping the area warm.

Cold is also in your head.  You're only cold if you think you're cold.  A good friend told me that back in the day.  Temperature is all relative to perception.

And I love the snow, should be awesome.

hey the cold could be resolved by geothermal heating also.  ;)
and dank I sent you a message

Would that work with the constructs of a tent on a small budget?

Well you won't be needing heating then will you? Remember dank, think warm!!
I highly recommend you ignore this friend of yours. He/she is spoon feeding you complete rot.






Well?

@ Dank
Geothermal would work around building snow walls around the tent to keep some of the wind and cold out. So you can do that cheap and free but takes time. Start with bushes and rock wall in the fall so the snow can fall on it then start piling snow on it during the winter. It will help keep heat in and the cold out  

sent you a second message)

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Why do you even bother? Don't you feel ashamed? No self-respect, nothing.

No, it is completely true.  If you constantly tell yourself you're cold, you're going to feel a lot colder than if you don't think about it at all.

I don't care who you shill for, it doesn't matter, what matters is that you do.