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I know this is a science forum and not a forum for conspiracy theorists but I have always been intrigued by the idea of a world where everyone has access to 'free' energy. What impact would it have on the world? Would it solve 99 per cent of all problems?

There will never be "free" energy.  You'll always pay a fee to the power company to maintain the plants and transmissions lines, regardless of what the power itself costs to create.

I think the term you might be looking for is "unlimited" energy?

There's no such thing as free energy because that's not how the laws of physics works, there is however plenty of cheap energy, everything has a cost and has to come from something especially when you try generating electricity, the problem is people who declare free energy don't think about what they're saying that much which is why it gets thrown around so often especially in politics.


I wouldn't think there was unlimited either really, because even plentiful resources are finite but I could be proven wrong on that point but we haven't discovered anything that is truly unlimited yet.

Now and again I can agree with Vod.

Consider that if you were wealthy enough that all your needs in life were taken care of, and all you had to do is digest your food, you would still have to expend energy to do that. It wouldn't quite be free energy, although it might be very close.

It is similar with ALL energy. Electrical energy that we have harnessed for use in everyday electrical and electronic equipment is freely available. It may not be entirely free to generate, because you still have to expend muscle energy to build the generators, etc., but it is available in such quantities that, once the equipment to harness it was built, it might seem free.

The thing that we are attempting to do is to harness a tad of the tremendous quantities of energy in the universe in ways that are not controlled by the big power corporations, or the governments. In other words, it isn't free energy that we are looking for, as much as freedom for the people.

:)

I would suggest reading 'ancient energies of the earth' and know all you need to. If you cant find it online, I can mail a copy, since it's, well, scottish ;)

I am going to stop here and recommend that you take another look at Conservation laws in the field of Physics. It is not what they say, but what they mean.

Yet, the laws are only as good as we can be good at determining them. Consider https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg8831610#msg8831610.

:)

There is no such thing as "unlimited energy" - see Thermodynamics. 

Free, or close to it, and plentiful energy however could well be a reality.  And yes, if it was plentiful and cheap enough it could solve most of the most important problems in the world.  It couldn't solve the fact that humans will eventually get bored and get ourselves into trouble, but things like hunger, the environment, poverty, clean water ect... yeah, it could.

Think about Tesla,he wanted to give the free energy

Of course it's possible. Obviously, there's a certain energy spent to create said energy, but it's damn near to 0 compared to the scam we have today. Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnRyVK7HqJE


Had this be applied today, and the whole scam of a system we live in would collapse next morning, that's the problem. The powers that be are not going to allow for that.

Here is part of the problem in this forum. And who knows if it is intentional, or if it is accidental?

It might be an absolute fact that energy is limited. But what does that matter? The sun has so much energy that if the whole earth fell into it, there probably wouldn't be a sizable plop.

The point isn't how much energy exists. We can't imagine the amount of energy in the sun. We could NEVER begin to imagine the amount of energy in all the stars combined. The point is, the amount of energy in the whole universe might as well be considered unlimited, because there is so much of it compared to how much we need, even though it may have a limit.

The thing that we are trying to do is tap into a little of it for free. That's all. There's so much there, so, why can't we tap into a little more of it for free? I mean, 100 times all the energy we are going to use in the next 100 years is tiny compared to the energy of the sun. So, what do we need to do to tap into some of this virtually free virtually limitless energy?

:)

Stick a pole with copper wire at one side of a mountain, then stick a pole at the opposite side, run two wires to house, never pay again..

Then again, if you built a house over a river as such that the river flowed UNDER the back door to the front door, then the both sides of the house become your +/- poles..

Climb highest mountain near you with bottle half full of water, wrapped in paper.. stick bottle above head in such a way you can stick finger in bottle.. scrape yourself up from foot of hill and try again.. pmsl..

Njoi!!

Free energy, yeah it's called sunlight.

There's no such thing as unlimited energy either.

I think he is looking for a way to get renewable clean energy.

There is a lot of energy around us, of course the sun provides a lot of energy. The wind and the tides as well, the earth also has a strong electromagnetic field and you can also use gravity (waterfalls for example) or geothermal energy.

There's also a lot of energy (in the form of radiation) basiacally bombarding earth from all directions, there's probably a way to harvest that energy as well, Altough it might me more effective to let a satellite do it, because the atmosphere of earth filters a lot of it out. 

Energy can't be produced out of nothing, but luckily we don't have to, you just have to know where to look.

What if something that is impossible to happens turns out to be possible to happen?

What do I gain when I think about such questions?

Of course there is free energy. Magnetism is a form of free energy.

bitcoin is free too.  just mine.  mine == energy

Harnessing the magnetism into electricity is the tricky part. (without using electro magnets.)

A magnet is a piece of matter that gives energy, requiring no energy input.


Magnetic motor driving electric generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWwPN-mTBQ

wind and water don't require us to input energy

still, they aren't free

The magnetic generator is not free but the electricity produced is free.

+1
This is it in a nutshell. There is an abundance of clean, renewable energy resources available, but it's the PTB that will never allow us free access to it.

I have discovered free energy.  Unfortunately for you all, many of you will only doubt me rather than assist me in building the machines.

Yet I bet you still use paid energy to charge your cell phone.   ::)

Petrole and radioactivity are the cleanest and cheapest energies we know

There can never be free energy. But cheap and almost unlimited will soon be available:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/21/e-cat-report-watch-thread/

Hemp fuel is much cleaner, it has a negative carbon footprint, so the more we use, the more oxygen earth will have.

Good point, when you live completely in the dark and solar power is unavailable you're going to need a power source for your electric guitar and facilities for a multimillion person outdoor rave.

http://fuelcellstore.com/direct-ethanol-fuel-cell-kit-fcjj-22

That or the cheapest diesel generators you can find on craigslist and I'll bet reports will come in that plumes of black exhaust fumes smelling like doughnuts or popcorn or what ever "bio-fuel" they can get cheapest.

Woodstock will look like 10 hippies around a camp fire.

It would be a great news for miners. It will be possible to make good amount of profit from mining.

That's exactly why I don't want to disclose a free energy generator on these forums.


:)

Free energy machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxReArGbE_s

Top-notch comment.

If we don't recognize the free energy (watt-ever it may be), or if we don't know that we can access it, or if we can't figure out how to access it, it doesn't do us much good no matter how free it is.

The freest of free energy is the energy of the aether, that floats around us and through us all the time.

:)

If there was 'free energy' then purple, tentacled, shapeshifting aliens would emerge from the dungeon dimensions and devour us all.

Disappointed, no actual cats  :)

In the Bible record of the Tower of Babel, God says wording to the effect of: "Since this is what they have started to do, nothing will be impossible for them."

People can do it. "... purple, tentacled, shapeshifting aliens ..." don't have the ability.

:)

Stealing energy in your squat house isn't classed as free.

 JAPANESE WATER POWERED CAR!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxfMz2eDME

Electric motors are very powerful. But what if there is a certain saltwater concentration that allows extremely high amperage/low voltage DC electricity to flow through the water, thereby splitting the water molecules in much larger quantities. And what if this particular brine solution makes it possible to split lots more water than other solutions. Maybe that's what these guys found. A method to split water using the power of a standard battery, that produces lots more power than the amount that came out of the battery. The salt might somehow be depleted, and more may have to be added now and again.

:)

There will be no free energy. They will always find a way to make you pay.

Nice. Shame it requires at least the same amount of energy to split the water molecules up as the useful energy released.
There's always going to be negative net energy.

How? Its impossible.

You contradict yourself here. How can we assist you with something you are unwilling to do? You prefer people struggle and remain slaves to the energy corporations, rather than share your (bogus) discoveries so that people may be free to pursue a more meaningful and spiritual life. What exactly are you doing here in bct anyways? Are you even interested in cryptos? Wouldn't a different forum serve your ego better? Let me help you to find a new home better suited to your desperate needs.
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https://www.facebook.com/christiansversusatheists
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/dvera/CoEvan/forumsDebate.html
 

Do you remember saying this?

Do you? At all?

This proves how disingenuous you are, since the benefits of sharing 'free energy' far outweigh any excuses you may have for not sharing it.

ALL energy is free. I mean, if there wasn't any, show me how you could make it... or anything, fro that matter. It was all given to us for free. Even the labor of extracting it is a free gift.

:)

Stan Meyers Water Car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFIlXaABU54

It probably has to do with just the right brine solution, then use high amperage electrolysis, then burn the hydrogen.  :)

You can't only use Hemp fuel because it takes a lot resources to produce and why carbon would be bad??

Solar and Wind energies are the least renewable and ecologist

For thousands of years people are interested on free energy. For thousands of years people prefer to listen to or read books/blogs from scammers instead of at least read a serious book first and then the scam one.

I cant believe that in 21st century people can tell apart between "finite" energy like sun's energy and "free" energy.

And for fuck sake's enough with the damn magnets. I know that are interesting and shit but come on. Try something different. Its so 18th century... In fact there is some talking about second law of thermodynamics being violated in some really strange quantum effects but thats philosophy and probably wrong. For now we dont have anything even close to even consider it. And sure it is not going to be fucking magnets! Try something new!

Here take this and thank me later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1HqOEbq2L4

oh and posting videos from youtube with a motor running isnt proof. Ever heard of the mechanical Turk btw? All it takes is two wires powering that motor which they dont let you see in the video. I can show you people levitate and zombies playing playstation.

And finally about the conspiracists,

IF FREE ENERGY DID EXIST THE GOVERMENT/REPTILIANS/OIL COMPANIES/ALIENS WOULD JUST SELL YOU THAT FREE ENERGY! MAYBE THEY WOULD HOARD THE PARTS FOR IT AND SELL IT TO YOU AT 1000 TIMES THE PRICE. DO YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE RETARDED PAYING FOR OIL EXTRACTION WHEN THEY CAN HAVE FREE ENERGY TO SELL YOU?

EDIT: The quote was by mistake

What are you even trying to say?

You can not sell the free energy. You can not sell something that is abundant.

You may want to tell all those companies selling bottled water that.  ::) ;D

That's great.  I have discovered infinite energy.

And who's buying bottled water? Only the idiots.

Annual spending on bottled water in the U.S. alone is $11.8 billion. I think that makes the case that you can sell something that is abundant, don't you?
http://www.statisticbrain.com/bottled-water-statistics/

Magnetism and electricity are not related to the second law of thermodynamics. But besides, the experiment will tell us whether a law is right or wrong. Science without experiment is not science.

It's not 'free' energy, but it always pays to migrate up the energy density curve ..  ;D
Two fission technologies that have been fully developed ( by our tax dollars )  but not yet commercialized ..

MSBRs = Molten Salt Breeder Reactors
IFRs = Integral Fast Reactor ( Breeder )

Attributes

Passively safe
Operate at atmospheric pressures
Complete fuel utilization +99%
Trivial low level waste streams
Carbon free power
Not suitable for weapons production

Triff ..

Google

Argonne National Laboratory
Idaho National Laboratory
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Kirk Sorensen LFTR ReMIX ( U-tube )
Thorium fuel cycle
Liquid Metal Fast Reactor
BN-600 BN-800 Reactor
GE PRISM Reactor

 
 

The Amazing Story of the QEG Build in Morocco (http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/the-amazing-story-of-the-qeg-build-in-morocco/)
Quoted from the article,
"On 17th May 2014 in Morocco they reached 6 times overunity, which basically meant that the machine was capable of putting out six times more than than that which was coming in, and this figure has now risen to 33 times overunity!!!!"

I love this gif. 8)
http://whatgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/funny-gifs-perpetual-motion-machine.gif

Sorry to burst your bubble, but free electricity was an invention of Tesla and he got killed for it. Research Tesla, but I promise you that you will get boiling mad. We as a race have been fucked so many times, it´s unbelievable, but we all keep buying coca cola and wanting to get rich, not realizing this is a carrot before our mouth, we ARE all rich, if resources get evenly divided!!

Energy is all around us, waiting to get harvested....

lolwut?


And how did you come to the conclusion that there havent already been millions of experiments that all abide with the laws?

its called a monopoly my friend.

or branches or monopoly called oligopolies

The Laws of Thermodynamics are the Laws of "Heat Power." Magnetism and electricity are not heat processes. A magnet can create force from nothing.

But are we sure of this. After all, the Higgs Boson is said to be a particle that holds everything together. Now, how can a particle do that!!!??? So, maybe there is more to magnetism than creating force from nothing.

:)

The Higgs Boson is the Aether, the "fifth element".

Herp derp.

Heat is a model to describe the flux of thermal energy a combination of kinetic and internal potential energy,  which quite literally comes from the energy state of the electrons, which when unpaired, produce magnetic field and produce a current when allowed to move freely in a conductor, also known as electricity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_equation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_band_structure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_of_states

Go to school.

A lead bar has the same amount of magnetism as a bar magnet. The difference is the orientation of the spinning electric dipoles in the bar magnet; they all point in the same direction. In the led bar they're pointing in random directions with no net magnetic field.

nothing in life is for free.

IT IS possible. Renewable energy comes with a price, but in the longerm it's essentially free energy. Once you invest into solar panels, you're guaranteed to break even.

The most important things in life are free. after all, if you didn't have your body, your mind, your emotions, and your soul and spirit, ALL OF THEM GIVEN TO YOU FOR FREE, where could you go to get them? There isn't a person on earth who could give them to you - except your parents, the first time - or give them back to you if you lost them.

All of our energy comes to us freely, from the sun, and the movements and motions of the earth and moon. The part that isn't quite free is tapping into this free energy.

In the sense of pure free energy, or perpetual energy, the energy in nature may end some time. But as things stand now, it is so fantastically greater, and more abundant, than we could ever use as people, that it is essentially extremely free.

:)

Guaranteed?

You can convert the electricity to heat but the electrons themselves are not heat. You must go again to school and learn the real physics.

"I believe that all mathematical physicists should be hanged
from the highest trees and telephone poles available.

If the laws forbid this, or it messes up the landscape,
then we should institutionalize the whole lot of them.
But keep in mind that there aren't enough funny farms to hold so many idiots.

I'm so upset that relativists hold the reins of power that I think that I'll
just go and read the newspaper to cool off..."

"Bill Gaede"

Source: http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/

The air you breath is free. Why? Because it is abundant. If something is abundant is free. if something is scarce is expensive.

The air (CO₂) you exhale is taxed.

and the farts?

Solar energy is free so is wind? but there is always maintenance cost.

The CO2 tax is a scam. Have you seen this film? 

The Great Global Warming Swindle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

FTFY

Unlimited energy using magnets and magnetic energy can be created.

You mean the mathematical physics that make possible the device you are using to spout nonsense? I understand the math that makes the pnp, or npn junctions possible in your cpu, but this math is wrong?  ::)

You can't convert things to heat, heat is a process not a state. You don't increase the heat of something, this is non-sensical, literally it doesn't make sense. You can increase the kinetic energy of the particles, or the potential energy of the electrons through a process called heating.

Compressing a gas increases its temperature, you haven't heated it, why?
Transferring a fluid from one area to another doesn't create fluid, it simple moves it.

Heat is the transfer of energy, it is not energy. The energy itself is thermal energy, which in part is the quantum energy levels of the bound electrons. At absolute zero, the electrons collapse to the lowest energy levels and fill their shells. You are confused, uneducated and wrong.

I have an MSc in applied physics with emphasis in solid state.

You?

Show me the experiment, which proves that the bound electrons are thermal energy and answer me the question: can a magnet create force from nothing? Yes or no?

shit i wish energy was free..  :P

However, not all practical application understands this (this = standard physics).

There is an area of quantum mechanics that suggests that working with mathematics and scientific testing is the thing that produces the results, because the scientist is either looking for the results, or his subconscious is looking for the results, or possibly, because the subconsciouses of many people are looking for the results.

It's something like in medicine, where you give a bunch of patients sugar pills rather than the medicine, and like, over 30% get the same or better effects than those taking the medicine.

Once the results have been produced, it is very hard to contradict the results and produce other, different results. Why? Because a scientist who is trying to do this has already been convinced - at least subconsciously - that the results produce are the only ones able to be produced.

Once in awhile a strong-willed inventor produces something like perpetual motion. On a regular basis, he gets out way more energy or force than he puts in. And his invention virtually runs itself. Yet, his work can't be duplicated, simply because those who try to duplicate it simply "know" that it can't work like that. At the same time, the inventor, because he "knows" that his thing works, keeps on getting working results.

There hasn't been enough testing with QM along these lines to ascertain how this works. In fact, because of the complexity involved in this area of science, testing along these lines is just starting. One of the reasons for the lack of testing is, modern science almost refuses to believe that there is such a thing as consciousness, conscience, soul, and spirit.

If you look through TED Talks at http://www.ted.com/talks/browse, you will find that modern science is gradually stepping out of its own self-inflicted "dark ages," and is starting to look at the reality of non-physical, human interaction with the world around us, human interaction done using the mind directly, activated by the soul and spirit rather than thought and logic alone.

:)

The problem with the theoretical physicists is that they make a theory and they expect the nature to obey to this theory. This is nonsense.

Based on your knowledge would you say that most modern pnp and npn junctions exploit the field effect to perform their switching functions?

https://i.imgur.com/i7SG4Lt.png

I agree. Why aren't we funding this?

https://i.imgur.com/gbtHjas.png

This would probably work too!

That candle holder is quite brilliant actually.

https://i.imgur.com/jxqlqPn.png

Mind blown....

I know right! Awesome!

And I did some research on that candle holder, when the wax goes to the bottom, you can take the candle out and place it on top again!

LOL! I assumed as much, otherwise it would be pretty useless.  :P

I'm sure the mad scientists will eventually figure out how to use helium 3 but until then we have solar cells and magnetic driven wind turbines?

i agree with lethn. There is no such thing as unlimited energy because we have limited resources. There is a point where anything would come to an end. Even the stars that produces great amounts of energy would suddenly come to its end and explode.


and there would be no free energy because the businessmen and the government wont allow it. They wont have income from it and they cant control it. They want money and power thats all

Sounds like some government big business person making a statement.

I agree with lethn, as well. There's just gotta be a limit to energy. Not that we will see it for the next 13 to 14 billion years, of course.

:)

The magnetic generators are real and will soon flood the market and this will mean the end of capitalism.

 Free Energy Motor - Generator QMOGEN 1KWATT EVIVA unit from Kiev Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j860XSP2fU

utopistic miracle

There is no free energy, well its possible but it still cost something..

Oh geez. Having a background in electromagnetism, I really should stay out of this loony bin, but since I'm too much of a sadist...



Quantum doesn't make the scientist "produce" the outcome, but rather the outcome observed depends on how the scientist observed it. The outcome is the same, and is produced by nature regardless of what the scientist does. But, like looking at something from the left side or the right side and seeing two different outcomes, in quantum physics observation are different based on how one looks.


They make a theory based on previously observed evidence. A theory is simply a best guess explanation for the reality observed. Theoretical physicists observe some events in nature, which obeys its own laws, and come up with theories to explain how it does those things that it actually does. You make it sound as if theory is something scientists thing happens, while nature has something else happen, which is absolutely not what a theory or what scientists do.

As for the stupid "magnet powered" motors, magnets are not a source of energy. They have zero energy when they are in a neutral position not near anything magnetic, store up energy when you bring them close to another magnetic field, and release that energy when they are let go and allowed to return to their neutral position again. It's basic Science 101 kinetic/potential energy stuff. Basically, a magnet as a source of energy is no different from a spring, which can push off when you squeeze it, but you have to add the energy to compress the spring in the first place, or a hill that will let a ball roll down off of it, but you have to roll that ball to the top of the hill to store up energy in it. For magnetic energy to start exherting any force, you first have add force to it. And whatever force you add will be less than the force you get back. You claimed that magnetism and electricity don't have anything to do with heat, but that is absolutely untrue. Magnetic fields passing through magnets and wires create heat, and in high enough energy concentrations can create massive amounts of heat. That's how hair dryers work, and why electro magnetic motors have limits on how much they can move or what kind of strain they can handle. They overheat.

You say antiscientific nonsenses. I cant talk seriously with you. You paid by the oil companies? They pay well?

Nope. They have already flooded the internet attracting uneducated people.

"The secret of free energy is almost revealed by the turkish inventor Muammer Yildiz at the university in Delft at the OTB research centre of the Dutch Technical University."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU

And here some proof of the resurrection of Lazarus who lived in the town of Bethany near Jerusalem by Jesus of Nazareth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR1ku3kE2lY

Free Energy Magnet Motor fan used as Free Energy Generator "Free Energy" light bulb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiAhiu6UqXQ

magnetic power bicycles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rilJFviVM

I always said I'd transmute all the plastic and nonbiodegradeables here on Earth into something useful if that were to happen.

if there was a such a thing with free energy, I would of

1. Gave me a free from one bill to pay every month
2. Bicoin mining 24/7
3. Leave everything on esp hot weather AC  :)

Magnetic motorbike   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4GXH5Q3Rk

Magnetic car            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9d2VKXhcgs

You say antiscientific lies. Nothing you said is based on actual observable science. You must be paid by shucsters and charlatans selling their fake motors and bullshit conspiracy books.

what if i need 0.0001 btc real bad for drugs, but no one will give it to me.

should i mine on 3 S3's, or a S1 solo-mining bitcoin?

All these magnet motors seem to be built on the principle of two magnets pushing apart. Problem is, in order for two magnets to push apart, they first have to be brought close enough together to start pushing. This means being brought together against the resistance that is already pushing them apart. That uses up more energy than the final push. Even the Yildiz motor relies on batteries to overcome that resistance, and will stop working once the batteries run out.

The undeniable proof that all these motors are fake is that ALL of them have to be started for the demonstration. Why not just start them once when you are done building them, and just leave them running forever?

So the Yildiz motor runs on batteries? And the people from Delft university are idiots?

Can you show me a link from Delft university where it says that indeed a gathering about it happened there and that  anyone associated with Delft university was there?

I suppose you cant cause it is just a stupid video. But if you find something then yes people from Delft university are idiots.

I am waiting.

P.S. Universities often hire out rooms. Who knows who turns up. But still Delft gets lower in my eyes if they let obvious scammers in there.

Call them and ask them.   

Delft University of Technology  T: +31 (0)15 27 89111

Every so-called "new energy" or "free energy" company/non-profit organization is a guaranteed scam. Even the established companies with established technologies are corrupt look at Enron.

The end of oil companies is here!

This film shows the first HHO central Heating System using only water for fuel. The unique patented burner converts water into HHO (water gas). The burner uses at full capacity 100ml
of water and only 1,4KW electricity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l6deTVgtmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB0A99NIl3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnuUfRXmdCo

Oh! You noticed!

Why would you use a whole lot of electricity to break up water into hydrogen and oxygen (HHO), and then burn them for heat, instead of just use electricity for heat directly?

Water is not in any way a fuel. A fuel is something that exists at a high energy state, and is burned or converted to a lower energy state, releasing heat in process. Water already exists at the lowest energy state.

Delusional.

Magnetism attracts me as free energy source

Because the output energy is bigger than the input energy. Faraday wrote it requires 96Kj of electrical energy to split water into HHO with an increase of 286Kj of heat energy created when Hydrogen is recombined to make water. Gasoline and Diesel are around 90 Octane, but HHO is 130 Octane.

I think the original edition of "Brown's Alcohol Cookbook" explained it like this. Ethanol (alcohol) is partially burned ethyl gasoline. This gasoline has more power in it than the alcohol form of it, because it has not been burned at all, yet.

Brown ran ethanol in a motorcycle. He found that he had to increase the compression ration to 18 to 1 - normal for gasoline engines is less than 10 to 1 - so that he could get the same amount of power out of the alcohol that he got out of the gasoline. Yet, the gasoline had more latent energy in it because it was not partially burned like the alcohol was. The reason that Brown could run the engine at such a high compression ratio, was due to the high octane rating of the alcohol.

The point? Alcohol, that has less latent energy in it, can be made to do the same amount of work as gasoline that has more latent energy. This savings in energy is almost like a little free energy from something as simple as ethanol.

:)

You'll go farther on a litre of gasoline than you'll go on a litre of alcohol. There's no getting around the fact gasoline has a higher energy content.

the bitcoin difficulty would go up

No it can't, there are less bonds in ethanol than gasoline, which is primarily octane, decane and other long chain molecules.
The enthalpy of combustion can be calculated and verified with something as simple as a bomb-calorimeter where energy loss is minimal compared to something as stupid as an internal combustion engine on a motor cycle.

Gasoline    47.30MJ/kg
Ethanol    29.7 MJ/kg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion

This is how much energy is required to bring the atoms together and assemble them. Hocus pocus, buzz words and marketing do not alter the molecular structure of a simple carbon chain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy

This is literally first year chemistry of which you can verify yourself at home, a calorimeter is not difficult to assemble.
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=ithfVI6DAeunmALWr4HwDQ#q=homemade+calorimeter

Comparing a poorly tuned gasoline burning engine to a properly tuned ethanol burning engine does not add more carbon-carbon bonds.
10:1 compression ratio is low if ones goal is as complete combustion as possible, an aluminium headed gasoline engine would run at 18:1 with proper anti-knock agents(tetra-ethyl-lead) and aggressive cooling.

Are you including compression pressure and the resulting far-greater combustion pressure, along with the far greater heat drain into cylinder walls and head with the far hotter gasoline combustion? These reduce the effect of gasoline power?

However, the problem with higher compression/combustion pressures is that the lubrication of the engine may not be adequate.

:)

This is impossible, not because we don't have the technology to make this work, but because that's not how the universe works. Note that NONE of the people who came up with any such "inventions" actually use them to power their houses and cars.

For once I agree with Rassah ^^... at least in part. Let's see somebody power their doghouse with something like this. After all, that would be a lot cheaper to build than powering your whole house... unless your wife has kicked you out, that is - in the doghouse.

 :D

All energy is free. Why? Because it can't really be created or destroyed... at least not in any way that we know how to do.

The thing that is not free is converting it to our use, or converting it from one form to another.

:)

A classic example of bigger output than the input, is nuclear energy. Nuclear energy uses the aether power. But you can see many other examples here:

It Runs On Water Full Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RQ6XwaRyM

damn, if it was free everyone would be mining forever.  :D

good lord, no nuclear energy doesn't come from the 'aether'

the total energy in a system includes the binding energy and the inertial rest mass, e=mc^2 isnt the full equation
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/3/f/03f882b7de498678b4a5a6987e261aa7.png

the rest of the equation is the rest mass.
The nuclear binding energy that overcomes the repulsive force of the protons, fission of uranium doesn't add extra energy, the energy is already there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy#Mass_defect

Yes, nuclear energy comes from the aether (zero point energy). Dont show me mathematics. Mathematics are not science. It is a tool for the science. Show me experiments. Science = experiment. Tell me the input and the output of an atomic bomb.

Math is a model useful for prediction, if the model if sufficiently accurate.
You think the Manhattan project just randomly blew things up in Nevada until they got lucky and used enriched 235, then just had also happened to be refining across the country?

Without math?
input=uranium
output=boom

Without math how can you quantify these inputs and outputs?
How much uranium do we use, lots?
What is the blast radius, really big???

you dont even know what zero point energy means...idiot.

I had a professor who's day job is at CERN, a student in class asked him about the zero point energy, "what does that mean, there is still a potential in the ground state?" He literally shrugged his shoulders and said "who knows, its interesting though".

So please tell me what use this is, how to harness it, and collect your Nobel prize.

a) It's magic space energy.
b) You harness it with giant pyramids.
c) I get a prize for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l1KpT8g2uk

 ??? ??? ??? ???

Have you guys heard about CETO? Pretty sick imo.
"CETO is a wave-energy technology that converts ocean swells into renewable power and desalinated freshwater."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CETO

The best energy we discovered is Oil, it doesn't pollute much to extract it and it has amazing powers

Tell me how much energy we need to create an atomic explosion and how much energy we take from the explosion. Is the output bigger than the input? Yes or no? What are you talking about? You are not a scientist. You are a priest or a mathemagician.

I made this drawing as proof of concept. Does my Nobel come with a cash award?

https://i.imgur.com/SNajz0o.png

This was probably already commented on, but didn't Nicola Tesla find a way to tap into the earths...."hum"? Frequency, whatever you want to call it. I think that's what wardencliff was all about. But there we're some bazaar mental implications that came along with it. And he was afraid that it could be used as some kind of psychological weapon. It was also backed by a rockefeller who thought free energy would zap his plans at the money game. So it was scrapped.

Antenna towers are so informal, I prefer giant marble coated gold capped stone pyramids.

Not phallic enough.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Tesla_Broadcast_Tower_1904.jpeg

If this were true, then why do we need to keep refueling nuclear power plants with fresh uranium, and keep having to dispose of spent fuel nuclear waste that is NOT uranium? Something is being added, and waste is being created. Meaning it's not an infinite source of energy, meaning once we run out of uranium, that's it for uranium powered nuclear reactors. This suggests that the energy is stored in the nuclear fuel itself, and is released when we use it, same as energy out of coal, oil, etc. No math required to understand this.


It takes very little energy, just a tiny spark, to extract much more energy from gasoline, too. That doesn't make gasoline some magic perpetual motion fuel. It just makes them sources of energy, where that energy came from something else, and can easily be released. For gasoline the energy came from the sun that powered the plants that dinosaurs ate, and then the sun and earth's pressure that decomposed those dinos and converted them into oil. For nuclear power, it was a star's pressure that fused lighter elements into heavier uranium. Either was, energy was already existing, was transfered into a fuel, and once we release it from that fuel, it's gone. Just like a magnet that's brought too close to another magnet, storing up energy, and once they are released, the magnets spring apart and all that energy is gone, or energy added to water to break it into hydrogen and oxygen, and once the two gases are recombined, that energy is gone.
Note that in ALL those cases, the energy put in is less than the energy we get out of it. Even for star created nuclear fuel.

Well all the oil companies would be up shit creek and maybe there be a end to wars as well.

All effects in nature are related to aether. Aether can give us abundant free or very cheap energy.

Oil companies are not responsible of war, they are providing expertise for a much needed energy; Big Government make wars using fiat money; I never heard of a war started by Microsoft or Google, they don't even throw people in jail.

The same with water. Water is like gasoline. The energy is inside water with the form of hydrogen. You have only to release it with the help of the aetheric power.

Aether?  More like everything in the nature is caused by the classical Greek Gods

BUT this term confuses me : "MAGNET"

If there's such a thing, then people won't worry about working overtime.  ;)

I believe that 5,000 years ago and before, natural magnetic strength of the earth and many materials - possibly the essence of magnetism itself - was hundreds of times as strong as it is now. I think that the strength of magnetism on the earth collapsed do to some cosmic happening, maybe a near collision with another planet-sized body, and that this is what changed magnetism on earth forever. I believe that this also changed the way radiation acts, and that because of it, we can't get accurate readings using carbon dating.

:)

There is more to the universe than science can explain.

That is shaped like a mushroom.  Coincidence?

It isn't.

What is wrong with you people?

No.  Science can explain everything - there is no such thing as magic.

We just need time.

Well for atomic explosions, each and every single atom has huge energy, whatever we are seeing is only conversion , so its true that smaller inputs may seem to have larger outputs ........

What a dark place, so many mushrooms growing here.

Oil from dinosaurs, you've got to be trolling!

Nukes are a weapon and everything you believe about them is probably wrong, a lie and a complete fabrication.

Q: What do we know about energy for sure?
A: It can't be created or destroyed.

...but the question is "what if it was possible".

Ok so we've created energy, now what? What are you going to do with that energy? Are you going to make money with it? That money belongs to your elite masters!

I hope this answers all your questions. 

Move to Turkmenistan, free energy for ALL citizens, yeah you saw that right, look it up!

The universe would have been destroyed in an instant.

Maybe it has been destroyed. Maybe life and everything else is simply an echo across the remains of the dimensions.

 8)

This is about as close to free-energy as you are going to get:

http://reallearningforachange.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hamster-wheel.jpg

Someone has to buy the hamster and the wheel though.

I think that energy from the Sun or wind should be free energy.
Problem here is that technology to use this free energy is not yet free. 

" You know who controls the Law in USA ? The Justice Supreme Courts are controlled by The Vatican , yes , they are the ones holding back this technology !
The Vatican controls The Justice Supreme Courts by The RED mass which is controlled by The Knights of Columbus , The Arch Bischop of NY and The Arch Bischop of Washington all overseen by The jesuits of Georgetown and Fordham University which on THEIR turn are overseen by The Jesuit Superior General from Rome ! So anyone who want's a car like this write a letter to GESU in Rome ! Cheerio ! Have a good one !

Another great way to drive a car with minimum pollution , these technology's are suppressed by The Controlling Freemasonry powers that all lead to The Jesuit Controlled British Crown (The Worshipful Company of Fuellers of the livery Comapnies) & Rome (Equestrian order , Knights of Malta (Vatican Knighthoods), Papal Bloodlines and Society of Jesus controlling it all) , Power , Money , False Wars , Media manipulation , Religion , Money System , controlling the masses. Time for a change , now is the time , the times are ideal for change because the planet is being robbed and destroyed by this system that is based on profit and power.Corporations only care for profit. Enough Blood for Oil.....
Also they have depopulation agenda , Monsanto , Agenda 21, unsolved 911 and WW3 is in the making + The Creation of a fascist World order which is carried out under the name of Peace and a better world , don't believe them they are responsible for the mess we are in in the first place, if we all know the truth then we can stop it and change the system because its for the benefit for us all (Also for Rome) and in return we create the basis of respect and also the basis on working together worldwide. Rome has proven that they aren't able to control our world , they had their chances , now the change comes from the people and i hope we soon start to organize with the right influencial people. Peace to all."

http://sonyalphalab.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-139.html

Anyone who think this guy is crazy, please learn and read for yourself. This shit is true, and we all being played out against eachother...

could do with a river outside of my house and i build something like a water wheel to generate a trickle of energy lol

There is much confusion here between free energy ($$$) and an over unity machine. An over unity machine is impossible. A nuclear reaction is not an over unity, the inputs are not greater than the outputs. The binding energy contained in a mass of uranium is less that the output energy, even atomic weapons are very inefficient and convert a small percentage of the mass's binding energy to another form (heat, em radiation..etc)

Free energy is a different story though and they are sources which are free from a dollar cost, but not from a systems cost. A hamster in a wheel is free energy if you don't have to feed the hamster. I have done the math on my hedgehog who loves his wheel. He is about 20% efficient.

I have an old alternator on my exercise bike, which charges a lead battery with an inverter. Its more of a novelty but i have used it when we've lost power in a storm. It would be free if I didn't have to eat.

Find a way to draw energy into you personal "system" from outside of it, like the river hydro electric idea in the post above me, will provide you with free energy, but it steals it from somewhere else. In this case the earth's potential gravity.

This other stuff about secret machines that burn water, or "brown's gas" which is just hydrogen are bull, because it requires more energy to break the reactants down into a useful form than you get out of it. Unless you have an unlimited source of local free hydrogen, what good is it.

The other issues are people confusing pollution with C02. Its possible to have a very complete reaction with methane or another simple hydro carbon and have only c02 as a product, but the issue is the ability of CO2 to retain solar energy, not smog which is just particulate matter in the atmosphere. The later will eventually come out of suspension and settle.

Realistic long term solutions involve, tidal, solar and wind, but ultimately we need better battery capacity, which is coming online, albeit slowly. I read an estimate years ago that if most of the desert in New Mexico (I think) was covered in solar panels it would provide for the entire planets energy requirements, in all aspects, jets, ships, cars, provided they were all electric and storage capacity was adequate.

I'm pretty sure I'd die if I tried to go anywhere on a liter of gasoline, but I can go almost anywhere without giving half a damn on a liter of alcohol. Your argument is illogical.

I cant believe that people like nsimmons are inside universities.

Cavitation Heater - Overunity   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGSXKSLpfY

So buddy has exploited a cavitation effect for heating and you're upset he's still employed?

EDIT:

OK, I watched the video LOL

http://platinum-invests.eu/palladium-green-energy/?lang=en

someone here from Valencia ? Can you check this for me ?  ;D

Just make the wheel, and make the ha... Wait no.

It would work if you have thousands running 24x7

That's impossible
In future energy will be very very very cheap

And it can some problem especially with electronic device


Don't forget to feed the hamsters  ;D

Build one and prove it, collect Nobel prize. Do you not need 1 million dollars?

Feed the hamsters, build the system, find hamsters, have a location, dispose of them when they are dead..

Just have enough hamsters that they can breed quickly enough to grow replacement hamsters. Have the live ones eat the dead ones, work on the wheel, reproduce, and die, and the cycle repeating for ever. There. Free energy.

Everybody knows that energy is relatively free. If you stopped eating, you would run out of enough energy to live after awhile. So, you have to work to get money to buy food.

Do you put the nourishment that energizes you into the food? No. If there wasn't any energy in food naturally - put there by processes that we barely understand a little - there would be no way you could place the energy into food. We simply don't know how.

This means that most of the REAL energy is free.

:)

I know of a few free energy generators.
some are easy to build and some are complicated. some folks use them to handle most of their electricity needs. usually only technical minded people search for and use such devices that's why they are not so popular.

Are you serious, sir? We understand exactly how energy is put in food. The energy is in the fats, carbohydrates, and proteins. You can add more of these substances to the food to give it more energy, or remove them to reduce its energy (then add a fuckload of salt to preserve the flavour and label it "diet"). The processes by which these substances naturally came to be in the plants and animals that we eat are quite well understood as well.

BADecker is one of those "Tide comes in, tide goes out, You can't explain that!" people.

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but every time I think about "free energy", this commercial comes to mind.

"Flying Horse - Gatorrada" :: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc

Tesla Coils: Unleash the Aether

Nikola Tesla's most significant contribution was not AC power, radio, or the induction motor, but what we call the Tesla Coil - a tool which allows for the power of the aether to be unleashed and harnessed.  Now being launched through an open source project.

 The inventions of Nikola Tesla are numerous. He invented radio, teleautomatics (remote control technology), poly-phase alternating current, the induction motor, and many other innovations that established the foundation for our modern civilization. However, the true significance of his greatest discovery - the "Tesla Coil" - goes mostly unrecognized. This tool provides a way for humanity to tap into the wheelwork of our universe--what many describe as the "aether."

 It is theorized by many that electrical voltage is in fact a form of "aether" bonded to the current flow in a conductive material. The aether was thought to be a gaseous atmosphere of tiny (potentially much smaller and less massive than the electron), energetic (traveling at speeds faster than the speed of light), and penetrating (capable of traveling through solid matter) that fills our universe. Tesla and other men of science considered the aether to be the medium in which electromagnetic waves flow. Some individuals theorized it could be the true source of gravity, what produces radioactive decay in elements, and the fundamental "stuff" of which all matter in the universe is composed.

 Tesla gradually moved away from large scale transmission systems and worked on smaller units. Eventually, he designed a small device that he claimed collected energy from the, "aether all around us." He connected the small box to a Pierce Arrow modified to use an electric motor and announced, "Now we have power." The vehicle zipped around at high speeds of up to ninety miles an hour!

For reasons not quite understood, the technology that powered the Pierce Arrow was never commercialized. We do not know if it was directly suppressed, if he was simply not able to get the funding to mass produce it, if he chose to keep the technology to himself, or if some other event transpired. To this day, little is known about the small box other than a few brief words on the electrical components it utilized.

More: http://pesn.com/2011/04/19/9501813_Tesla_Coils_Unleash_Aether/

Hopefully, If it's possible, I think people will stop being fucktrads about fighting each others for natural resources ?

We would all be Meta-Humans, I guess. My ability would be eating disorder. Oh, wait... I have that ability already...

Aether is an outdated belief, like flat earth. We believed that electromagnetic energy, which includes light, traveled in waves, and waves require a medium to travel through. However, there is vacuum in space, so we couldn't understand how those waves could travel through space, and theorized that maybe the universe is filled with this aether that energy waves go through. However, there was no way for us to detect that aether, and numerous experiments showed that there is no evidence for its existence, other than that light and radio travel through space somehow. It was much later after Tesla that we discovered that light is both a wave and a particle - photon - and thus that energy can travel through space in particle form. Something like aether, which we could never prove existed, turned out to not be needed for the universe to work, and is thus considered to not be real in science.

In short, not everything Tesla invented was scientifically correct or functional. Especially in his later years when he went from electro mechanical systems, to more theoretical based on ideas that wouldn't be proven false or true for decades later.

Oh, and this sentence on that web site
pretty much confirms my suspicion that it's be. Nothing can exceed the speed of light.

All energy is free energy. If it didn't exist in free form, or bound up in the atoms and molecules of material, there would be no place that we could get it from.

The part that is not free is not the energy. The part that is not free is the accessing of the energy, and the manipulating of it to do our bidding.

:)

"A Brief History of Superluminal Wave Experiments

1) In 1988 researcher Alexi Guy Obolensky, working together with Prof. Panos Pappas, transmitted electric pulse shock waves at superluminal speed.  They published the results of their experiment in Electricity and Wireless World,December 1988, pp. 1162 – 1165.

page 1162,  page 1163,  page 1164,  page 1165

The above page links are provided on Dr. Pappas’ website.  Some of the images are marked with corrections that Dr. Pappas has made to correct mistakes made in the original published manuscript which was mistakenly not sent to A. G. Obolensky for his final review.

2) Also in 1988, Eric Dollard demonstrated an experiment in which he sent longitudinal waves through a coaxial cable at 1.26 c.  He discusses this in the following video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549#.  See especially the part 14 minutes into the video.

3) In 2005 – 2006 Alexi Guy Obolensky and myself transmitted high voltage Coulomb shock wave pulses across his laboratory at a speed averaging 1.26 c.  At 3.07 meters distance the pulse arrived 1.7 nanoseconds faster than luminal speed.  Our threshold resolution for distinguishing time delays was 125 picoseconds.  The rise time of our shock front was about 0.8 nanoseconds.  The speed declined inversely with increasing distance from the emitting electrode in accordance with the predictions of subquantum kinetics.  At a distance of 83 cm from the electrode the speed was clocked as high as 2.1 c with speeds as high as 8 c being projected at 65 cm distance!  Graphs of the data are published in my book Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, p. 177 -185.  Other than this reporting, Obolensky and myself have not yet taken the time to write up the results for publication in a technical journal due to current demands on our time.  Nevertheless, as described in Verification Number 11, our experiment confirmed a key a priori prediction of subquantum kinetics.

4) Also around this time, Eugene Podkletnov and Modanese performed experiments with the Podkletnov gravity impulse beam generator in which they succeeded in sending gravity shock impulses over a distance of 1211 meters at a speed of 64 c.  They report their findings in a paper entitled “Study of Light Interaction with Gravity Impulses and Measurements of the Speed of Gravity Impulses” which is appearing this year (2011) in an edited book of papers.  E. Podkletnov has disclosed to me in personal communication that they have succeeded in measuring speeds of several thousand c in a higher power impulse beam generator.

5) Dr. Panos Pappas has recently continued experiments on superluminal pulse propagation in his own laboratory in Athens, Greece.  He reports the results of his work on his papimi.gr website.

In addition to the above there are various reports of superluminal signal propagation over very short distances such as the papers by Ishii and Giakos (1991) and Enders and Nimtz (1993)."

Source: http://starburstfound.org/neutrinos-break-speed-light-limit-physics-crisis/

If it can't be replicated in another lab, it isn't science and it is bullshit.

"belief"? æther isn't about religion at all.


Nobody but most brainwashed peon ever believed the earth was flat, take a gander at the Earth's shadow on the moon.


Again this isn't about religion, light defiantly has waves no question about it.


"vacuum"? The probability of finding the electron at any point in space is non-zero, this implies that any given volume of space is not a vacuum.


So they called this not-a-vacuum æther.


Who is this "we" are you part of some cult?


"we" can't figure out why it behaves like a particle and a wave hence æther is not real? There's no logic to this statement it's like trying to figure out how many faeries can fit on the head of a pin and coming up with an answer of purple.


I'd love some examples!

Of course light is a particle and wave. The particle is the aether. It is a wave of the aether, like the wave of the sea.

Belief is not faith. It's just something that someone believes is true based on what they know. So I wasn't implying religion.
Everybody believed the earth was flat at some point, because otherwise "things would fall off the bottom of it." I wasn't walking about recently.
"We" as in "the human race and all our combined knowledge."
We can't figure out why light is both a wave and a particle, but that doesn't matter, because light being able to travel like a particle makes aether not real. Or at least not necessary to exist for the rest of physics to work. Energy can travel without a need for some medium, like aether, to travel through.
Example is Tesla's famous giant free energy tower. That never worked, and theoretically has no reason to.

Light particle is not aether. It's a particle in a point in space, while aether was thought to be something that exists everywhere. In your analogy, aether would be the water, while light would be a wave in that water, where the wave needs the water to travel, but turns out light is like a thrown rock. Sure, it can travel through water, but it doesn't need it to be able to travel.
Scientists performed many experiments to detect aether, including testing for effects of earth moving through it. Theoretically there would be resistance in the direction we are traveling, and extra speed in the opposite direction where we are leaving aether behind. Nothing like that was detected, suggesting complete vacuum and lack of aether.

There was never a time everybody believed the Earth was flat, ever. People aren't stupid and they only reason somebody proclaimed the flat-earth establishment view back then was for fear of persecution.

I have no problem explaining how light appears to have both wave and particle-like properties as I'm not a card carrying member of "we".

Tesla's tower was a giant Tesla coil and I'm sure that works as advertised.

Finally, the M&M experiment (the erroneous attempt at detecting the æther) has been debunked.

Cite your source, a peer reviewed one, with a detailed methodology so I can replicate it.

The result of their experiment were predetermined to be negative and they build a logically flawed experiment to support it. I'm calling them out as establishment frauds!

Here, let me spoon feed you some logic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Tnq564LlU

Perhaps you should tell Wikipedia that. And historians studying ancient Greece, India, and China. That whole "earth is a disk on the backs of three elephants, who are on the back of a turtle" wasn't just some recently made up joke made to poke fun of stupid people.


Yep. They thought they proved existence of aether, but their method was flaws and not very precise. Luckily we had plenty of other experiments since then, using much more sensitive and more advanced tools http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment#Subsequent_experiments

Still no aether.



Wow, this guy spends 95% of the time philosophizing, and 5% of the time explaining that the experiment was wrong, because the stone slab that the experiment was performed on is traveling through the aether, and thus would be affected by it. But then we have two outcomes:

• The stone slab, along with lasers, was "squished" in the direction of travel, which we can test for by measuring the length of one of its edges turned into the direction of travel, and turned 90 degrees. Since light speed is a constant, we can use it to make a precise measuring tool of fixed length that doesn't change based on whether it's traveling into aether, or parallel to it, just by timing the photon as it exists a laser and returns back after hitting a mirror. Since there's no squish effects like that in the universe, there is no aether.
• Since aether squishes everything equally in the direction things travel through, and it's impossible to detect it due to that, then aether has no measurable effect on our universe, at least not one we can detect with any of our tools, instruments, or experiments. If aether has no measurable effect, then it's a concept no more useful to physics than god.

The description of æther as "material" is misleading as matter emerges from the æther. Big E exploited this fact to proclaim there is no æther. And it's gone.... Then frame-dragging was proven (Gravity Probe B) and big E's ætherless relativity is proclaimed as fact. Confirmation of the æther is being twisted to make the statement that æther doesn't exist here. What better way to hide the 5th element from the slaves and peons who might use it to escape this fucking draconian system.

Michelson never said that the aether does not exist. He said that it is not static.

the universe will explode

They won't find the aether until they can start detecting at least the 6th dimension. To do this, they will have to pick up dimensional vibrations. The reason is that it is the aether that holds all the parallel universes in the exact same places that the others exist in. It is the dimensional vibrations that keep the universes separate except at the few crossover, vibrational ripple cross points, points that make the "materials" of other of the parallel universes.

:)

Free Energy is possible, has been achieved before and will again. Look into how your meter on your house is constructed. Then go find out how much energy is created for your region. Then go find how much energy is consumed by your region.
You will find that 'free energy' is alive and well for the power companies.
We need to make it available to all

Tewari has a very interesting way of going about it by skipping Lenz Law(?)

Free energy will never exist just like the never ending light bulb because there's no money to be made that way.

We have gobs of free energy, from the gravity containment hydrogen fusion reactor in the center of our solar system to the molten core of our planet.  Channeling and directing that energy into useful work is where you incur cost.

Actually, you know shit. Energy in the Universe does not evaporate. It goes from one form to another. The fact that we (humans) don't know how to use the infinite energy of the Universe, doesn't mean that there won't be a way for us to USE (not manufacture) free energy.

I watched this documentary about a European engineer (I think Romanian) who invented an electrical generator, that uses the Earth graviational field to produce 200W of electricity. All materials used were basic - rotors, weights, dynamos etc.

What you also need to know is that Tesla invented back in the 1900s a method of wireless electricity transmission. His main financier, however was one of the biggest producers of copper wiring and he stopped his funding.

Of course when there is a matter over trillions of dollars rich people wouldn't just go with new methods of free energy. That would ruin everything for them. In 100 years they will probably "invent" (consider pull ot of a safe) a new way for free energy, but they will still sell it to people, just for 10 times lesser amounts of money than now.

If anyone could produce, sell and distribute their own energy, then the center of power would shift. And power is more addictive than any drug, or money.

This is called a dam.  :P

No. A dam uses water, not gravity and costs billions. This thing you can make yourself and uses no external fuel or another costly force to run. But it's not surprising that there is lack of funding for this kind of inventions.

So why don't you make it yourself?

Rudolf Diesel's body was found floating in a river and his invention still required fuel.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdm4unHCv91rkvot1o1_500.jpg

You can make a cheaper dam for 200W output, and if the dam's not using gravity then the water wouldn't be there right? I was thinking the dam uses earth .. now you got me confused.

Not me. There is this guy from romania. He was in the DW news in October. And he made sort of a dynamo ran engine, that used weights. Weights were welded onto metal bars and they were just "free" spinning, based on Earth's magnetic field, creating electrical energy using magnets. Nothing else. And it's an early stage of development.

Here is another invention, that might give you more perspective - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUOnYxRcDHU. A Bulgarian guy that lives in Utah.

There is such thing as free energy. It's what drives universe. And people have nothing to do with it. We just have to learn how to master it.

Just get a lot of hamsters and wheels.

Magic happens.

Boom profit.

In a few years from now, all cars will be powered by Tesla Coils.

These cars are very expensive at the moment

And again, I ask, why don't you make one of those yourself? Why are there dozens, if not hundreds, of these inventions, and not a single guy shares the technical details or instructions for how to build it, and no two people ever seem to build the same type of device?
And before you say "money," we have crowdfjnding and loans. Raise or borrow some money, build one at home, use it to power your neighbors' houses and charge them for electricity, then use that money to pay back investors or bank. Very easy, but no one in the entire world is doing it. Why?

Look up gravitational potential energy, how do you think a dam works? Go to school.

Hint
UE -> KE -> e-

Again - there is lack of funding of these people. First. Second - read my previous posts. The romanian guy's invention would cost you 1000$ to build yourself, but he needs a finished demo, to be able to patent it.
He wouldn't give you his idea, before he's sure he's going to cash in on it. That's normal. But If you can produce 1kW infinitely for 1000$ I think its way worth it.

Since I am not a physicist I cannot do it myself. But I can build it myself if I had the plan and parts. That's what I meant in my posts.

Arguing that there is no free energy is stupid. Einstein (a very smart man) said that no energy is lost in the Universe, it only shifts from one form to another. If we humans knew how to close that cycle any mean for energy generation would be 100% effective.

However, we are limited as human beings. We think we know everything, and in reality we know squat. If there was no Oil we would be living in the dark ages right now - no electricity, no hot water, no running cars. Don't you think that's pathetic?

I watched an interview with one Kiril Chukanov. He said that he invented a ball lightning electric generator that outputs 10 times more than used electricity, and when turned into the cycle releases to the electric network 3.5 times more electricity than used - so 100kW is turned into 350kW. He also said that the bigger the ball lightning - the larger the output. He said it can be done upto 1,000,000 x and a clear output of 350,000 times more than used - if you input 100kW you would be able to support a whole country, but It will be huge and will cost as much as a Nuclear Power Plant. But it's 100% green and free of fuel payments.

Yes there is! Random people on the internet raised $55,000 for some guy to make a potato salad on Kickstarter. I'm sure they would donate way for than that for something as awesome as a solution to the world's energy problem. Yet no one seems to ever be able to raise any money. It's as if they know that they can't prove their invention works to potential investors.


Why doesn't he borrow $1,000, build it himself, use it to power his house, and use the money he saves on not paying for electricity to pay for the patent? Even better, hook his neighbor us, and charge him half of what the power company charges. He'll earn enough to pay off the $1,000 loan and pay for a patent in no time.

And why are all these free energy invention guys such greedy assholes? Every single one of them claims they won't share the technology, because they want to patent it first. Did Satoshi patent bitcoin? Did Linus Trovalds patent Linux? Give the give of free energy to the world, and you will be praised and taken care of for ever. Hell, you'll even win a Nobel Prize, and that's a lot of money. It's as if the patent thing is just an excuse all of these guys use for not explaining how their system works, so they don't have to be held accountable or be xaught lying.




Yes. The full quote is "Energy can not be created or destroyed." Energy can only shift from one place to another, or be converted into and out of matter. When you run a motor, or use a conventional energy device, you are shifting energy from coal/wind/gravity/sun/nuclear fission into energy that moves your motor or heats something. When you create a "free energy" device, you are not shifting energy, you are creating energy out of nothing.


It doesn't matter how much knowledge we aquire, generation would never be 100% effective. There is always friction to overcome, even if it's from light glowing on the device, or magnetic fields from surroundings and the planet interfering with motion.


Scientists and physicists who actually know about this stuff (and anyone else who is educated enough) know they don't know everything. That's why their actual job is figuring out things they don't know. People who don't know jack shit make claims like "We think we know everything, " and then add, "in reality we don't know anything" to make themselves seem intellectually superior.


Not sure where your going with this, but most electricity in US is generated from coal. Must of it in Europe and Japan is from nuclear. If there was no oil, chances are we'd be driving electric cars, but I doubt we'd be in the dark ages.



I watched that interview. Note that everything is based on what he says, nothing is explained, and (this is the most important part) he has to plug it in to get it working, and then turns it off. Why not turn it on, plug it into itself, and just let it run indefinitely?

Asmi pointed put a while ago in this thread, why do all overunity machines have to be started up, and then shut down, instead of being allowed to run under their own power for ever?

Making a prototype would take much time and money. 1000$ would be if you already know what to do.

And the guy from Utah already has funding. He is building a prototype in Canada for an Oil company. He received millions, but needs billions to create a market applicable machine. Physics is not simple you know. It's delicate. Also dangerous he works with pressures of up to 100G. That's why you can't do it in your home. You need a lab and team of scientists to do that successfully.

Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing. He said that it needs power to start. But a part of the produced power would go for powering the unit. That's the tricky part. How to conserve the produced power while unit is off. Of course he will not reveal his full idea on youtube. Someone would steal it. Oldest trick in human character.

Do you really think that the Universe runs on Oil and electricity, and that there is no free energy running it? Who does then? The Uber Space People?

Its obvious that the Universe does not need an engine to run for billions of years. It's just that our tiny brains are incapable of dealing with it.

How's the saying go?

Gas, grass, or ass?

... Something like that.

highly recommend to get familiar with the following:
http://youtu.be/gcD1h9DYitg

humanity had access to unlimited energy. we lost it but knowledge of it is kept to this day by very few. tesla reinvented that knowledge but he was brutally scilenced..

there is a project underway to develop a new prototype of tesla tower in russia:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/let-s-build-a-planetary-energy-transmitter

" Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature. "

Nikola Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qO9QZmv6Q

But all these guts are already claiming they know what to do. They have prototypes that they claim create free energy. So why did you bring up?


It costs $5,000 at most to patent it, at which point you can explain it publicly and not sorry about it being stolen. It probably costs much less than millions to create a small scale working model that you can use to prove it works, and let others test with. Why is money always an excuse with these guys, even if they have millions?


I know. I have an engineering background as well, in electromechanical engineering, dealing in linear motors and magnetic levitation. I also own patents and have been through the process of getting them, and have had to design and build my own models. I'm calling bullshit on all these things because I know how this stuff works.


What does danger have to do with proving whether it works? And what do you mean by 100G? The only way to get that kind of force is through centripetal motion, like on a spinning fly wheel. 100G is also not that dangerous if you use light materials or small scale. As for the lab, if he needs a lab and scientists to make this device to test it, then how does he even know it works? The only way would be to have some mathematical modeling engineering calculations. Should be easy to check and verify those.

That's how the MAGLEV patent I own is. Due to physics limitation, I can't build it too small scale, and the smallest scale possible would cost $170k, which is money I don't have. BUT, every piece of the invention is precisely mathematically calculated, using standard physics formulas, to every tiny detail, and can be checked and verified completely as a math model. Which it has been. You can calculate all the levitation forces, and prove that it works, without actually building it. That's how true engineers design stuff. Not this garage tinkering, hoping to accidentally guess something that will work without knowing how or why.


I'm arguing for the sake of pointing out that these guys are liars and charlatans at worst, and complete idiots at best. Sadly, the vast majority of them are lying scumbags.


My question, if you remember, is why does it need to be off? Let it use the extra energy it produces to power itself, and never turn it off. Problem of conserving produced power solved. But not a single one of these drives has ever been able to power itself indefinitely. Why don't you find that suspicious?



Also, oldest trick for these liars. Spend $3000 to $5000 to patent it, and no one will steal it. Better yet, give it to the world for free. People will give him a lot of money and praise anyway.


The universe runs on fusion, and there is no free energy in it. Stars enevtually fuse all the fuel they can, and die off. Planets and other orbiting things eventually slow down from friction, and fall into the star, assuming the star doesn't burn out and explode first. Everything in the universe is using up energy, not creating it.


Maybe yours is, but mine isn't. As I said, stop pretending that we are all nt smart enough, thus maybe things are true after al. Some of us ARE smart enough to know better. The universe engine that has been running for billions of years is loosing pass and burning up energy. There's a good change it will use all that energy up and stop after many more billion years. Or collapse back in on itself.

I like this comment here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGSXKSLpfY from Vanilla Face

" These so called "academics" are simply pathetic. Even if they had overunity device before their eyes, running for 1 year non-stop without a battery, they would take it apart, find nothing inside and then say "I don't see any proof of overunity. My physics textbook says it's impossible". What a bunch of ridiculous, useless people. "

ha ha ha !!

This has been done long ago, decades ago. I don't have any detail, but I expect that someone could research the people who did it way back - at least in the 1970s if not further back.

Think about river water. There is air in the water. Fish in your home fish tank use up the air that is in the water. If you want the fish to continue to live, you often need to bubble air back into the water.

The guys who did this process back in the '70s, thought that their apparatus took the air out of the water to be able to do what it was doing. I wonder if the water in the Griggs process could be used a second time? Perhaps it has simply had the air removed out of it by the heating, and would need nature to add the air back into it in the same way that nature adds air into all natural waterways, before it would work a second time for Griggs.

:)

EDIT: Here it is, from 1974. Karl Schaeffer has patent #3,791,349 on this device. It is a bit different than the Griggs machine. Check it at http://www.rexresearch.com/schaeffe/schaeffer.htm .

Illuminati's Biggest Crime? Suppressing Tesla Technology

June 6, 2010
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Nikola Tesla, 1856-1943, the man who invented the "flying saucer"



by Christian Soderberg

(for henrymakow.com)

 

In 1911, Nikola Tesla revealed he was working on an anti gravity "flying machine".

 

"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, at higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of "holes in the air" or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action." - Nikola Tesla in New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 15, 1911

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm

 

What happened to this anti-gravity craft of Tesla's?

 

When we understand that Tesla's "flying saucer" was powered by a so called "free energy system", a.k.a. 'over  unity'-system (you get more energy out than you put in) at a time when the fledgling aviation and motor car industry was based on the oil and petroleum, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions.

 

Extracting energy from the Aether, and the so called 'aether physics', is based on the cosmos being 'all filled with substance', which is in constant, perpetual motion.


Because there is no empty space in the cosmos, every time the "aether" gets disturbed, which is all the time, 'replacement' takes place, and so the whole cosmos is in constant motion, energized by the so called Zero Point Radiation (ZPR), the electromagnetic-radiation between all particles of the cosmos, which comes in various frequencies, effecting the different particles accordingly.


The same way the atoms of our bodies are in constant motion, oscillating, and being 'kept together and separate' by electromagnetism, so it is also with this 'all permeating medium', the aether, which transmits the ZPR to the atomic matter, so energizing it.

 
In "layman's terms"; the craft excludes itself from the gravity of planetary bodies with high frequency and high voltage electromagnetic radiation, and propels itself in the aether-medium with these HF-electromagnetic waves. Because the craft is excluded from the planetary gravity, the crafts are capable of fantastic acceleration and sharp turns in high speed without the crew inside the craft feeling any G-force effects.

 

Not only did the so called Illuminati (industrialist-banking cabal) steal this "aether physics"-technology, they also changed the "human knowledge of physics", replacing the knowledge of this aether-cosmos with Einstein's theories, now promoted everywhere.

 

..to name few benefiting from this theft.

 

- J P Morgan (banking, energy, railroads, US Steel)

- Edison & General Electric (oil &energy, railroads, aviation, war industrials, banking)

- Rockefellers (oil, banking, Nazi connections through IG Farben)

- Rothschilds (banking, oil & natural resources ..connections to Kuhn Loeb & company through Jacob Schiff )

- Ford motors (motors, war industrials)

- Brown Brothers Harriman & Co (banking, ship yards, railroads, IG Farben)

- Du Ponts (chemicals& war industrials, General Motors, IG Farben)

- Vanderbilts (railroads, ship yards)

- Boeing Company (aviation)

- Lockheed (aviation)

 

... Oil & energy, steel and other natural resources, railroads, ship yards, aviation, car industry, spare parts, logistics, banking & finance, war industrial complex ..are some of the reasons to steal  and keep this technology hidden.

 

The official excuse behind this technology theft by this industrialist-banking cabal would be, of course; "In the interest of national security" .."if Al CIA-da  got hold of these..".


Hiding this technology "for national security" has cost humanity trillions and trillions of dollars and wrecked the health of humanity and the planet.

 

 --


For more information on Tesla's "flying saucer"-technology i suggest reading the books by William R. Lyne; Pentagon Aliens, Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and the Conspiracy to Conceal It and Occult Science Dictatorship
- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/nikola_tesla.html#sthash.barOrjCW.dpuf

Yes, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions: they never worked is what happened to them. ::)

100G - 100 atmospheres, 100.1Bar, ~10MPa.

G is also a unit for pressure. Not just force.

I've heard rumors of a shoe-box sized heat pump with an output in the kW range.

A steel ingot fresh out of the furnace?

And yet, there has not been a single case of an over unity device running for a year. Or even a few months. Hmmm...

Yep, Tesla did it, but greed and capitalism killed it, who else but J.P. Morgan

http://www.thrivemovement.com/jp-morgan-cut-tesla-funding

Nikola Tesla was an inventor beyond his time. Having obtained dozens and dozens of patents for his work, he experienced several periods of success, though he struggled to finance the Wardenclyffe project. Shrouded in secrecy, the intentions of the project were unclear to the public, however, once desperate for money, Tesla felt that he must reveal them to Morgan in order to secure further financing. Margaret Cheney, author of Tesla: Man Out of Time, estimates that Tesla had misjudged Morgan. “The prospect of beaming electricity to penniless Zulus or Pygmies,” she wrote, left the financier unenthusiastic about the project. Morgan ceased funding shortly thereafter. 

Sources:

1. William J. Broad. "A Battle to Preserve a Visionary's Bold Failure." New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/science/05tesla.html.

2. Ron Chenrow. The House of Morgan (174, 257, 289).

3. International Copper Association, http://www.copperinfo.com/aboutcopper/index

Since Tesla's time, we have developed instruments and technology even beyond his comprehension. What he was working with is the equivalent of trying to send astronauts to the moon using nothing but wood, hammer, nails, and gunpowder. We can test and detect things he didn't even dream existed.

So, how come no one had been able to replicate any parts of his later comparatively primitive technology? J.P. Morgan does not control the world. For 70+ years there was a whole country full of brilliant scientists and engineers completely walled off from the rest of the world, safe from J.P. Morgan's influence. They also has access to all of the same info that was publicly available on Tesla as everyone else, and knew about his inventions. So, can someone explain to me why they never invented or figured out anything close to what Tesla claimed with his flying machine and free energy?

For that matter, that superpower country was also not under control or threat of oil and energy companies, and had a huge incentive to invent a free energy or overunity device to bring down American oil empire. How come they failed despite decades of trying?

I believe that academics should be sued because they suppress the free energy.

Maybe there are some who were able to replicate it, but those guys in the higher ups manage to suppress their inventions/innovations by financial threats, harm to their families or by any other means necessary. If J.P. Morgan was able to do it why is it not possible now since there are a lot of companies that will be gravely affected by it?

Why would Soviet Union leaders suppress it, for 70 straight years, when they can use it to brag about the superiority of their engineers, bring down US oil empire, and become the dominant energy producer in the world? They didn't care about financial stuff of capitalism.

Because in any country such as Russia, greed and corruption also exist.

Hah, well put. I wish people would stfu about Tesla. Yeah he was a good scientist and did some valuable research, but he's not on the same level as guys like Planck/Einstein/Schrodinger/Bohr who REALLY pushed the boundaries of science.

Tesla would be proper pissed off if he could see the bullshit people are attributing to his name. Just because Isaac Newton discovered gravity doesn't mean that the philosopher's stone is real...

Edison fucking stole the patent of the light bulb from Tesla (who propably didn't give a shit anyway as he wasn't in it for the money) - I've done my research on that guy and he was a true genious way ahead of his time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98QwPO1b5j4 watch this documentary to get a picture. Heard of his death beam that could down planes? He made that discovery into a puzzle and gave parts of the puzzle to the 3 great powers of the world, USA, China and Russia so they all would have to cooporate in order to build it.

We have free energy already, it's called solar panels but there is more to that as well and it revolves around the pyramides. Tesla knew how to make free electricity to the world but there is no profit in it and as ABBA so nicely puts it; "It's a rich mans world". I would explain further into detail regarding those hot spots on the earth where the free energy can be harvested but I am not really in the mood to find the right documentary about it (it may be covered in the link I provided you with, don't remember). Watch the documentary anyway, or come with arguments about why Tesla weren't so great that some people give him credit for.

you need to research on einstein a bit deeper mate. the only reason he became superstar is to counter tesla's theories which could revolutionise the world of physics. about 140 years ago it went all wrong due to politics affecting the direction of development within physics community. lorentz's electrodynamics have been chosen which completely disregards ether as anything important - a big mistake. tesla was working on numerous projects that would require for ether to be recognised differently in order for them to be implemented. that would require current lawrene's electrodynamic theory to be revised. so for humanity not to discover the hidden key in physics einstein came to become world known figure supported by sell out scientists and phony nobel prise behing him. general theory of relativity which is based on collection of other people's theories further sets itself in such way that it backs up lawrence's electrodynamics. einstein is a figure placed there by early zionists in order for tesla's true direction in physics to be scrapped forever. towards end of his life most of his works have been seized. whatever he was working on is what we need now to further our knowledge. many physicians are now disputing over their works as nothing works properly. we cannot understand quantum mechanics before we correctly understand electrodynamics.


whoever is interested.. just google "giza power plant" - plenty of info there.

That's easy. People give him credit for breaking the laws of physics. The argument against that is that he was a mere mortal, and not some sort of godlike being. Sure, he was a brilliant engineer: he designed an electric motor, experimented with X-rays, and invented most of the technology for practical radio transmission; but he did not break the laws of physics, and there's not much reliable evidence that he even tried or claimed to.

Explain that statement. Nothing in the universe requires the laws of physics to be recognised in any way in order to work. Every one of Telsa's devices either worked or failed in accordance with the laws of physics, regardless of whether he or anyone else recognised or understood the physical processes involved.

if you want to research then google lorentz electrodynamics and ritz electrodynamics.
basically when scientific community had to choose from these theories they went for lorentz's one which is now quite evident that its not 100% correct. if we went along with ritz's equasions then eventually we as humanity would develop machines capable of producing carbon-free energy. that was prevented when lorentz theory was chosen. by giving him nobel prize and then having einstein build his relativity theory on top of it and giving nobel prize to him too kind of set it in stone. that means we as humanity were led into the wrong path on purpose. physics community need to go back 140 years and rethink everithing by developing ritz's work. tesla is the only well known guy who did work not for money trying to develop ether theory that holds the key. einstein was antipod to tesla promoted to destroy ether theory once and for all. then in 20th century everybody who were developing ether theory were ether not sponsored, descredited or killed on the operating table. im not physicist but understanding the politics behind physics is absolutely crucial.

http://www.geocities.ws/karim_khaidarov/ether-e.htm

Edison didn't steal the patent for the light bulb from Tesla (He did steal the idea of it from a bunch of other guys though), Edison did shit on Tesla in countless other ways, and was by all accounts a massive dickhead. And while you're right in saying Tesla was a genius, that doesn't mean that he discovered death rays and free electricity that breaks the laws of physics. Just because some of his ideas were suppressed by Edison et al, doesn't mean that every patent he filed/idea he wrote down was plausible.

The main device everyone goes on about are his Wireless Energy Towers (the ones with the phallic shape). No, they didn't produce free energy, they were powered by huge AC generators. They could have transmitted the energy wirelessly, but they didn't harvest it from some sort of mystical source.

I have seen some documentaries going on about Pyramid power stations harnessing hidden pockets of energy and was totally unconvinced, it all seems like pseudoscience to me. I'm not interested in watching any more youtube docus on it, feel free to post a good quality link with references and I'll read it.

A lot of these ideas can be put down to semantics, when people say "free energy" some mean energy you don't have to pay for, others mean "over-unity" which doesn't exist of course. PV cells are kind of free in a way, but you still need to buy and install them, so really they're not much different from oil or nuclear, just that solar energy is easier to collect and convert than nuclear or fossil fuel energy.

Really? I could have sworn Lorentz's theories included the aether and it was Einstein's theories (built upon Lorentz's and others) gave evidence that the concept of an aether was not needed, I may be wrong here. I also hadn't heard that he became a superstar to counter Tesla's theories, they were in different fields no? While your "Einstein was a Zionist puppet" conspiracies are fun ideas, I don't think they have much evidence.

If all this were true, and science "chose" the wrong theories back in the 19th century (which is not quite how science works), then how are tens of thousands of independent scientists today using the 100 year old theories of relativity and quanta to do incredible things like quantum entanglement. These theories have never been disproven, which is why they are still used.

Re: the pyramid power plants, post a good link with references and I'll read it, not interested in youtube videos or trawling through pages of nonsense on google.

"  An Aetheric Future
If the aether is what truly powers an electric circuit, it means that mainstream science has gone extremely off-track over the past hundred years. To get back on track, we would need to admit the existence of the aether, study its properties, and figure out how it can be harnessed and manipulated - or captured from the environment to produce free energy!

From Tesla's writings, it seems like aether acts like a highly compressed gas. With his Tesla coil he was able to first isolate the aether (pure voltage) from the current, and then magnify it with his secondary spiral or pancake coil to produce a gain of energy. If this is possible, then there must be many ways to extract energy from this limitless source that fills the universe. We just have to find them.

This 'cold' form of electricity (devoid of electron flow) has many unique properties that are being demonstrated on a regular basis by multiple inventors. For example, when hooked up to an antenna (like the sphere on top of a Tesla coil) it can transmit power wirelessly via longitudinal waves. These waves can then penetrate Faraday cages, unlike conventional transverse waves. Also, aether flow or 'cold electricity' can be used to transmit power down one wire for long distances, in a way that would not be possible with conventional current. In addition, it does not 'burn' like hot electricity, in that individuals have used it to illuminate light bulbs underwater, without getting shocked.

If mainstream science took the time to study and understand the properties of the aether flow, it could allow for a new technological revolution to take place. Not only could we extract free energy from the environment instead of burning fossil fuels, but we could build devices custom-engineered to work optimally with cold electricity. Until those devices were broadly proliferated, we could simply extract energy from the aether, convert it from cold electricity to normal electricity (with electron flow), and use it to power the grid.

Of course the aether is suspected to be involved in more than just electricity. It is suspected to be involved in gravity, inertia, and perhaps even time itself. Perhaps the UFOs flying through the sky are somehow manipulating the aether, and as a result producing a propulsive force. Technologies that utilize the aether could be what takes us to the stars!

Another way to look at the situation, is that until we really understand the aether, we cannot have a true understanding of any of the forces of the universe. For example, scientists today cannot tell you for sure exactly what is the 'stuff' that composes a magnetic field or an electric field. They may claim something about 'virtual photons' flying in and out of our dimension, but they really do not know for sure what is taking place. If they studied the aether, they may be able to come up with an answer.

Instead, we are being kept in the dark by ignorant, cult-like scientists who refuse to look at 'outside of the box' ideas. "

http://www.ascensionnow.co.uk/aether-true-electric-current.html

lorentz theory included aether but it didnt give much meaning to it. ritz proven him wrong. he been baffled as a result as to how could matematicians and physicians approve of it. but he did that after einstein's theory of relativety therefore getting himself against big boys in switzerland - zionist movement started there, as well as einstein's early years. at the time british physics school were making good progress and moving into the right direction until the moment physics got policiticised with ww1.


you see. we know about quantum mechanics for very long time now. though noone can properly explain how it works. all we know is that its very chaotic. if we just study the electrodynamics little better and look at everything differently as a result of that, then we would have less conflicts within physics community. once dinasour scientists die then new generation can unite on agreeing on this and work together. its hard to rewrite books and claim thousands of papers and entire life's worth of work worthless. its always been like this. like in history - every source of power dictates history in their own way - doesnt mean that its a lie if it doesnt correlate with history presented by other entity. but history is in its own right to be politically motivated - physics should not.

You don't need to tell me you're not a physicist; that much is obvious. The politics behind physics is entirely irrelevant as to whether or not it works. If Einstein's theory of relativity was built on incorrect math, the various experiments proving it would not have worked, and neither would any of the technology built on it, regardless of how much political support he had.

If by "we" you mean "you", then of course. Nobody can expect you to understand the advanced stuff when you can't even comprehend the basics. But those of us who do understand basic physics know that there's nothing mysterious about quantum mechanics.

foxpup if you'd rather prefer to discredit and exert arrogance so be it. the only point im trying to make is that there is bunch of scientists proving time and time again that einstein theory dont work 100%. you can easily look it up - especially from those who study aether. this sort of attitude ruins the scientific communities as a whole. g'day.

btw here is an interesting free energy project going on right now - quite impressive:
http://www.searlsolution.com
http://searlmagnetics.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QOE0okG99A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJX17LgBYaQ

If you believe that the current science is wrong, then write a paper and prove it. You're right in saying that it's hard to rewrite books and prove current science wrong (just look at Copernicus and Galileo), but if you have solid evidence then it's totally possible (and a lot easier today than 100+ years ago).

The reason the current theories are used is because they work, and are tested daily by many scientists in the field. Thankfully we live in a time where anyone can give evidence for an esoteric idea without fear of death, unlike in the days of Copernicus and Galileo. So take advantage and prove everyone wrong!

Sorry, but I can't discredit something that has no credibility to start with. Is it arrogant to suggest that the theory that produces devices and experiments that actually work as described is more likely correct? I think not.

If you're so impressed by it, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and invest in their business? You'll make millions when they completely take over the energy market. I personally think the whole thing is just a scam, but that's just, like, my opinion, man. Go ahead and throw your money away. I won't stop you.

‪" NICOLA TESLA AND THE FREE ENERGY

 The satanic synagogue want to keep controlling the natural resources & energy to keep enslaving mankind. The illuminati have ensured that one of the greatest geniuses, Nikola Tesla, has been almost forgotten. He invented the light bulb (which Edison stole), alternating current, neon light and radar. With the financial support of John Jacob Astor he built a very advanced laboratory in the Colorado Mountains. He experimented with wireless transmission of electric power and succeeded, among other things, in lighting lamps and driving small engines at a distance of 20 to 25 kilometres from the laboratory.

After his death on 7 January 1943, his room at the St. Regis Hotel in New York was searched by FBI agents, who opened his safe and emptied it of all documents (John J. O'Neill, "Prodigal Genius: The Life of Nikola Tesla", New York, 1944). All the inventions, which would have made our lives easier, have been stopped. The freemason who prevented us from benefiting from Tesla's environment-friendly inventions that could have changed history was J. P. Morgan. "

source:   https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=471273202894409&story_fbid=591621297526265

Russia's corruption was communist corruption, not capitalist, based on national pride and bragging rights. Plus such an energy device would have made the Soviet army unstoppable. So that's not a good reason.


Of course! New theories come in to fix or replace old ones. Newton's theories were shows to not be 100% accurate by Einstein's relativity theories, and later Einstein's theories were shown to not be 100% accurate by new quantum theories. Hawking is proving more and more older theories to be incorrect too. Science isn't a bunch of laws, its an evolving understanding.

if there was a free energy source mining would have been much more profitable/easier. Gulf and petrol producing countries would be in a big disadvantage though.

Maybe. Free energy... .... Is heat considered free energy? -Anyway, we'd be able to mine far, far, far deeper than we can now (probably split the Earth apart), and with unlimited fuel (and unlimited fuel means practically unlimited labor), we'd probably get off this rock and onto many others - or stay in space and have drones bring us whatever we'd like. Time on Earth with unlimited energy would be pretty quick, I'd guess. Either we all die are we rapidly advance to some type of super-race floating in space and having drones fly into the sun... would be interesting to see what happens with suicide rates when we practically have everything.

I don't see how free energy could solve 99% of the world's problems. Human nature is the root of all problems.
On a different note, there is a solar panel at my parents house that my dad installed more than 20 years ago. To this day, it still provides hot water without fail everyday (except when it's cold with no sun for extended periods of time).

Tesla coils could solve 99% of the world's problems.

Only if the solution was electrocuting 99% of retarded people such as yourself.

How does this solve any problems

http://hacknmod.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tesla1811foot000710003-600x412.jpg

I built one when I was 12 out of an old TV transformer, besides throwing an extremely low current arc, what good is it?

Here, build one, solve the worlds problems.

http://www.sentex.ca/~mec1995/circ/hv/sq-tesla/fig1.gif

That's quite an amazing creation.

if it was possible bitcoin price was possible to be less then current price as it reduce the cost of bitcoin mining
also i was having extra bucks in my pocket because i don't need to pay for bills then

We'll never have everything. Maybe the material needs of everyone will be easily met at some point. But most people need more than that, so I don't think suicide rates would change much. I think our needs would just shift more to self-actualization, and a sense of belonging.

It throws out a high frequency arc. Just modulate the power input and you've got yourself a primitive radio transmitter. Of course, it's totally obsoleted by modern tuned circuits, but back when it was invented it really did solve a lot of problems (in the field of radio transmission).

The Tesla coil is basically the horse-drawn carriage of wireless devices. It was useful a hundred years ago, but today its only place is entertainment and a few niche applications. Why do people expect a breakthrough in physics to come from such a hopelessly outdated technology?

Tesla coil is an overunity device.

Please show on the circuit were over unity is achieved.

Here's what I think happened.

You didn't actually know what a Tesla coil was. Now you're going to commit a logical fallacy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts , and tell me you meant something else, which doesn't exist, but you'll claim it does and it's just a secret.

This is going to sound really stupid, but our own bodies give us free energy every day we wake up feeling refreshed.

Yes it is. It produces extra volts. (voltage = aether). Extra volts means extra kilowatts.

But you do need to eat and breathe, for your body to work and have energy available - so it really isn't free energy either.


Seriously, have you guys never played Command and Conquer? Tesla Coils were the best thing in the game. :P

No, extra volts at the same current means extra power. A Tesla coil (or, indeed, any transformer) reduces current in proportion to the voltage increase, so the output power is exactly equal to the input power minus power lost due to inefficiencies.

No. No, it isn't.

No. Voltage rises with each inch of coil surface. It is over unity.

No.

Over-unity = Perpetual_motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion)

Current drops in the same proportion. It is balanced.

Wrong. Tesla transformers are not electromagnetic devices. They use radiant shockwaves, and produce pure voltage without current.

In that case, explain how they work in old radio transmitters (which clearly require electromagnetic effects).

Explain how these radiant shockwaves work.

On second thought, why bother? Voltage without current (or vice versa, as can be achieved with superconductors) means no power, and hence no energy. What good does that do?

If you don't count costs of investment, an average person can only benefit from sun and wind to obtain "free energy".

As long as you don't have fields of solarcells or windroses (they will cost a fortune and probably this kills the whole purpose) you won't be able to mine bitcoins sorry :)

Current is not necessary to create power. Voltage (aether) is power itself.

Then Joule's first law and Maxwell's equations (and hence the entirety of electrodynamics) are wrong. Please present a new set of electrodynamic laws that both:

a) makes accurate predictions about the behaviour of actual electromagnetic systems, which have been studied in detail and found to be consistent with the currently understood laws of physics; and
b) predicts the production of power using voltage without current. Please also present experimental evidence confirming this prediction.

If you are unable to do so, I will be forced to conclude you are either stupid or trolling.

Read about Maxwell’s original equations: http://www.gsjournal.net/h/papers_download.php?id=3889

The errors in that document are so numerous and elementary that they would embarrass a high-school physics student, which isn't surprising given its source. Are you going to respond to my challenge or not?

The errors in theory of relativity are hilarious! LOL !!!

Power is not created. It is measured.

Regarding electricity, voltage is merely the potential to move electrons. Current is the actual flow of electrons. Power is the relationship between these two values measured over a specific amount of time. (Time = one second.) In other words, power is the exact amount of work being done. If there is no flow of electrons, there is no work being done, no matter how much voltage is present.

watts = volts x amps

ie. 100v pushing 1a = 100 watts of power. The same amount of power can be achieved by 1v pushing 100a.

Therefore, 1mil volts pushing zero amps equals zero power.

I'd start my own star.

Yes, the equation is

watts = volts x amps

if there is current. If there is not current the equation is

watts = volts

False. Watts does not equal volts. Current must flow to get watts.

Like I said, if you have 1mil volts and zero amps, you have zero watts. This is very basic electrical knowledge.

1,000,000v x 0a = 0w

I insist. Voltage is power. The same technique of pure voltage used by Stan Meyer to split the molecule of water and power his water car.

Sooner of later, scientists will figure out how to use helium-3 for this purpose ;)

Yet somehow these "errors" don't seem to affect the accuracy of the GPS system, or gravitational lensing, or the orbit of Mercury, or any of the numerous experiments proving relativity. Explain that.

That equation is as nonsense as mass = time. The units are different. Now, if it was watts = volts x some constant that is independent of current, that would at least not be nonsense, but it predicts that heat will be emitted by a circuit in which no current is flowing, which is obviously false. If you wish people to think you are not completely retarded, please provide an actual, working, electric circuit that produces heat without current flowing through it.

The relativists are retardeds. Only a retarded would believe that a wave (light) could be traveled without a medium.

Space has no medium, yet light travels through it, who's the retard now??

Stan Meyer explains how the high voltage performs work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WpvxBfEWH_k#t=582

Why should anyone listen to an exposed fraudster?

Why dont you try to perform an electrolysis with high voltage, low current to see what happens? Please post the results of the experiment and the differences with classic electrolysis.

Because I'm not the one making extraordinary claims. You want people to take you seriously, you do the experiment, then show us.

I have not the equipment to do it, but i'm curious to find out if there is any difference between these 2 kinds of electrolysis.

hahaha.. many do just that. then to be called fraudsters by people like you. being close minded and open minded separates thos who are willing to learn and those that follow everything thats being told from above.

I note that of those many, not a single one has had any proof yet.

The kind of unlimited energy one can procure by NOT licking their own boobs ?

Almost everything is free. Energy is free. Even the ability to access the energy is free. However, the actual accessing of the energy is the thing that is not free.

:)

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/endless-sea-energy-erico-matias-tavares

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/FEindex.html

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fewaterasfuel28jan02.shtml

http://www.liberationtechnology.co.uk/index.htm

http://www.nanoflowcell.com/en/nanoflowcell

Take one 12v solar panel. Send output to 12/240 inverter, add 4 way extension, point halogen light at panel. Have a nice day ;)

*if the accesser is not free

Tsoutsounopaikth, liakopoulo's books and conspiracist's blogs isnt the only material that one should read.

I will urge you to read some material from the other side too. You will be amazed of what you can understand.

You make very big allegations that have answers for 1-3 centuries now and you refute to take the answers into account.

Although your name makes me think that you are probably just a troll. A successful one :P

I have the right to express my opinion publicly. Do you have a problem with that?

Good thing science isn't a democracy. Opinions don't matter, results do.

Science is logic, and relativity is illogical, without results. I have the right to disagree with relativity. Read this book:  http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/occultether/occultether.htm

Oh you are taking my response in a negative way while it isnt but if you want this so be it. You have absolutely every right to ridicule yourself!

Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.

And I have the right to point out that your opinion in particular is more full of shit than most people's. Relativity is entirely logical and, more importantly, it does produce results.

I found this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YNv3TC4oNIE/UfaelS4QzBI/AAAAAAAAYm8/osateiEb3K0/s1600/!00+00+000+a1+49999935b.jpg

http://www.tomatobubble.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/einstein-communist2.jpg

lol

It's a myth, Tesla himself shut down the wireless transmission of power for unknown reasons.

EDIT:

I believe those guys may have persisted and funded HAARP.

The WoW signal was aliens for sure, modern satellites use the exact same frequencies for radar imaging.

https://i.imgur.com/SsTz7Tj.jpg

if humans evolved into a kind of vaper life form energy worries would be over.

Free energy, aliens and vaporized humans. What's really going on here?

No one knows what the wow signal was. It was strange. And happened to be in a frequency they were searching for and are using. But that doesn't mean aliens.


Where did he say anything about aliens? But let's see. Soylent Green?

There was a second set of unknown long range radio signals spotted much later. It is spoken of much less than that the WOW signal; thats because it happened this year and was recorded LIVE. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/01/26/mysterious-radio-signal-from-space-caught-live-for-first-time/

Recent revelations lead me to suspect these signals are Earth based from over-the-horizon radar signals or the like being bounced off the ionosphere.

That being said this discussion is going a bit off-topic although the fact OP starts off with an assumption brings the validity of this thread into question.

EDIT:

The "photo" of Earth from the ISS posted in that news article is 100% fake!  ::)

And I have take the word of NOT batman for it ? Who are you the NASA CEO ? Bugger off.

https://i.imgur.com/SJeYlHC.jpg

Do you believe this is a real picture?

Depends what your "free" means. If it's economically free, than our world goes to pieces. If it's environmentally "free" then the world will be a better place.  ;D

Its you with your conspiracy mentality who seeks to disprove that this picture which is sourced from NASA itself is fake so why dont you provide a valid argument rather than just pointlessly increasing your post count ?

"Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time.

Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature."

                                                                                    Nikola Tesla

Nothing is impossible, just improbable.

That was Albert Einsteins take on the possibility of time travel.

As for free energy, I think we will eventually get to a point of developing practical Cold Fusion Devices, that is clean and sustainable energy but of course their is the initial cost to factor.

In my opinion the most obvious source of free energy in multiple forms, is our Sun; once we get to a decent technological level, we could partially surround the Sun in a some form of grid like network which would not even be noticeable from Earth but with this we could take advantage of several different types of energy to harness; a few examples being, Light (Photons), Radiation (Gamma) which would generate heat and cause chemical reaction with certain substances with would product more heat energy.

We then have Neutrinos of which pass through us everyday, billions of them which don't do use any harm but i travelling Neutrinos found a substance that it could not pass through, then that theoretically could generate heat; moving the movie 2012 to the side, Scientists are actually in India, in a deep underground chamber, seeing what Neutrinos could be doing to our Earths core.

After all that, Cosmologists and Theoretical Physicists, have already discussed the possibility, once we are at an established intergalactic level, of use traveling to distant Stars, encasing them completely and literally, using probably some form of Gravity Drive System to move the Star to where it would most be needed.

Passed that point, of us basically turning a whole Star into a super-massive Solar battery, if think that life as we know it would be so far advanced in almost everyway, that at our current level of understanding, we would lose all forms of point of reference for pretty much everything to do with living at such an advanced level of understanding and spiritual awareness.

Is a giant flaming ball of gass a million miles wide really a reasonable thing? Do you believe this object is real?

We miss you, dank.  :'(

no free energy here.
as far as i know the most environmental friendly energy is come from perpetual magnetic generators.
i have no idea, you still need human energy to set it up.

Well there are ways to get free energy from the sun and the wind, but you will have to invest some amount of money. That way you can produce electricity for your home and your business without paying big amounts to the companies every month.

There's no free energy. But if we can have it then that's good. Everybody can use this as free and no need to pay for the consumption.

There is no free energy.

Doesn't matter for me, better free transportation. :P

There will never be a world where you can get expect "Free Energy" because energy comes from resources and resources are limited.if there can be unlimited resources then no one would work for money and everyone will just enjoy.

If the resource is the zero point energy then the resource is unlimited.