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Title: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Ramirov on January 29, 2015, 03:38:09 PM
I am trying to buy some SP35 miners from minersource.net.

I've read some comments about this website on reddit, all the comments are a 1 year old, and they are mostly negative.

Anyone have any experience with this website, and what about the delivery time and supplies.

Are they legit?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 29, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
I am trying to buy some SP35 miners from minersource.net.

I've read some comments about this website on reddit, all the comments are a 1 year old, and they are mostly negative.

Anyone have any experience with this website, and what about the delivery time and supplies.

Are they legit?

No!


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notlist3d on January 29, 2015, 04:13:50 PM
I am trying to buy some SP35 miners from minersource.net.

I've read some comments about this website on reddit, all the comments are a 1 year old, and they are mostly negative.

Anyone have any experience with this website, and what about the delivery time and supplies.

Are they legit?

Yes long ago they were.  BUT they have lost a lot of credit during black arrow miners sales.  Lost most of the community support. I would suggest ordering straight from SP on that miner.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: chaosknight on January 29, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
better you spend few minutes on finding a legit company
don't buy from them if you don't want to feel scammed, do some research and you will find many other legit companies


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: OgNasty on January 29, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Yes long ago they were.

I don't believe that is true.  I believe the owner of minersource.net received a scammer tag on these forums before he ever got a new forum username and started minersource.net.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Ramirov on January 29, 2015, 05:11:53 PM
I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.

Any other website I can buy the SP35 that is legit and tried by community members here?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 29, 2015, 05:37:56 PM
I've done quite a bit of business with Minersource (both buying and selling) and haven't had much trouble. Purchases from the website I've had no trouble - the only issues I've run into were Blackarrow stuff and Technobit's minion board disaster, neither of which problems originate with Minersource. Bobsag might be a bit flakey (I don't know if he ever sleeps, that guy seems to always be running around somewhere and can lose track of things) but his guys are pretty good at taking care of business, at least within my experience.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: DebitMe on January 29, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
I have never really had any problem with them, and they have always had a professional attitude towards me, but events recently have led me to stop doing business with them.  I have no seen Bobsag anywhere for a very long time, and have even heard things about him not being associated there anymore.  They have broken many consumer laws in the United States in regards to the BA scam, but that could be more situational than anything.

Why not order directly from Spondoolies?  They have a great reputation and are selling in stock miners.  I can't imagine Minersource is any cheaper, so why not go straight for the supplier?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 29, 2015, 05:52:07 PM
Possibly because

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I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: DebitMe on January 29, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
Possibly because

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I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.

Ahh missed that, I see.  You might have better luck finding a reputable forum member to receive then repackage the miner and send it to you.  If there is one thing I remember about Minersource was their markups are quite large, so it would probably be cheaper to pay 2x shipping and a tip to a forum member.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 29, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
I could probably do that for you, be shipped to the US. I've forwarded packages for folks before. I can also host it if needed.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notlist3d on January 29, 2015, 06:16:57 PM
Yes long ago they were.

I don't believe that is true.  I believe the owner of minersource.net received a scammer tag on these forums before he ever got a new forum username and started minersource.net.

I could be wrong.  It just seemed they had a positive following for a small time.

I personally don't care for them because they used a picture I posted on here to sell a miner.  (Specifically a silverfish 28 picture)

And with black arrow they truly messed up.  I would never order from them.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: wpgdeez on January 29, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
They don't deserve your business and stay for away when it comes to hosting. BOBSAG and minersource built their DC on the backs of ripping customers off during all the DZ share craziness.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Biffa on January 29, 2015, 09:16:54 PM
I don't have an opinion on them, but I would be careful if your country restricts the import of goods produced in restricted country, doesn't matter where you import them from, they were still produced there.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: gbsray on January 29, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
I placed one order with them and had no problem, so I decided to place a second larger order and when it did not ship when promised, I asked for a refund and at first was told they could not process the refund due to their credit card processor reviewing all transactions. They offered to send me a company check but that sounded very fishy to me so I refused and called my credit card company and disputed the charge. I emailed Minersource, informing them I had disputed the charge and all of a sudden they processed the refund.

Very shady, I won't do business with them again. I was lucky and wont push my luck.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: thomas_s on January 29, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
I placed one order with them and had no problem, so I decided to place a second larger order and when it did not ship when promised, I asked for a refund and at first was told they could not process the refund due to their credit card processor reviewing all transactions. They offered to send me a company check but that sounded very fishy to me so I refused and called my credit card company and disputed the charge. I emailed Minersource, informing them I had disputed the charge and all of a sudden they processed the refund.

Very shady, I won't do business with them again. I was lucky and wont push my luck.
I remember yours it took me five failed attempts and a 30 minute phone call to Shopify to get your refund processed. I even provided you with the failed authorization numbers in your tickets.

You also didn't create a dispute with your credit card company, your order never showed a dispute pending.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Meech on January 30, 2015, 12:15:33 AM
Haven't ordered from them recently.  Last time was when the S1's were out.  At that time they were very responsive and communicated well with any concerns.  They can't take the hit for BlackArrows f up, being a small new company I'm sure they had to use their own funds to please customers when BA didn't ship.  That said they are  invested in these forums actively and that's good enough for me.  Place a small order and see for yourself. @ Thomas_s - do wish your website was kept up to date, notice old hardware lingering around with marked up prices from time to time.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Haven't ordered from them recently.  Last time was when the S1's were out.  At that time they were very responsive and communicated well with any concerns.  They can't take the hit for BlackArrows f up, being a small new company I'm sure they had to use their own funds to please customers when BA didn't ship.  That said they are  invested in these forums actively and that's good enough for me.  Place a small order and see for yourself. @ Thomas_s - do wish your website was kept up to date, notice old hardware lingering around with marked up prices from time to time.

Do you seriously think for one second that Matt Carson is goin' put down his water bong long enough to address issues on his website? Granted, Matt will take time out to argue with anyone that it's not considered borgarting when he's the only person on the bong.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2015, 12:55:27 AM
There was a time I would send them 3000 usd worth of btc for gear.  No worries got the gear and did well with it.

After  Black Arrow hurt them quite a bit

I can't send 3000  usd in btc to them anymore.  If they have a smaller item I still buy from them, but only once in a while..

Black Arrow hurt a lot of us miners. But I would say it hurt minersource's rep more then anyone else.

Thomas_s has always been good to me he bailed me out with a dead s-1 that bitmaintech was  being very stupid about the RMA.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Syke on January 30, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
minersource is a crap shoot. How much do you like gambling? If you're lucky, you get your order fine. If anything goes wrong, minersource won't make things right. There are countless reports with them not shipping products, refusing refunds, ignoring support requests, etc. Roll the dice with them if you want. Do you feel lucky?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: blackarrow on January 30, 2015, 05:31:22 AM
Stay away from Minersource. They have stolen $1050000 from us, we're currently discussing with the police and lawyers.




Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notlist3d on January 30, 2015, 05:49:54 AM
I placed one order with them and had no problem, so I decided to place a second larger order and when it did not ship when promised, I asked for a refund and at first was told they could not process the refund due to their credit card processor reviewing all transactions. They offered to send me a company check but that sounded very fishy to me so I refused and called my credit card company and disputed the charge. I emailed Minersource, informing them I had disputed the charge and all of a sudden they processed the refund.

Very shady, I won't do business with them again. I was lucky and wont push my luck.
I remember yours it took me five failed attempts and a 30 minute phone call to Shopify to get your refund processed. I even provided you with the failed authorization numbers in your tickets.

You also didn't create a dispute with your credit card company, your order never showed a dispute pending.

I don't really like when a reseller goes into details of a customers sale.

Maybe it's just me and projects/businesses I have been part of.  I just cannot imagine publicly talking about a customers specific order with I'm guessing no permission from customer.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: dogjunior on January 30, 2015, 06:07:06 AM
Stay away from Minersource. They have stolen $1050000 from us, we're currently discussing with the police and lawyers.




Pot calling the kettle black? LOL.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
Stay away from Minersource. They have stolen $1050000 from us, we're currently discussing with the police and lawyers.


http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/csizz/TWW_1x16_030.jpg~original
"I swear to you that that was the president's signature not penned by me that ordered all that popcorn."

The user BlackArrow has its own thread to tend to that has millions of dollars worth of orders on the line, but opts to come here and cry us a river over a supposed million-dollar money-grab by a scammer dude that helped raised tens of millions of dollars for Alex Sovu's Black Arrow's scam.

http://www.stonerdays.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/stonerdays-memes-28.jpg


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2015, 06:42:17 AM
Reading that again carefully:

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14.We have completed the design and manufacture of the banners for the Texax Bitcoin Conference. http://texasbitcoinconference.com/ . This announcement confirms that we will be present there; Minersource, Our reseller from USA, will represent us.

... that means Black Arrow won't be there and their directors won't show up.

Minesource could be a victim of their scam or part of them, too. We're not sure who Minesource or Bobsag (is he from Minesource) is.


<snip?

Do we accept resellers?
Yes. In order to save our customers shipping costs, we will accept a company that wishes to become our reseller and proves that they are experienced and trustworthy.



Let's revisit Black Arrow's first trustworthy reseller, shall we?

From the desk of Bobsag3, a.k.a. Matt Carson, Black Arrow's first and #1 reseller for their miners.


<snip>

I never ended up moving to another warehouse in Rolla, just the one. We went right from small warehouse in rolla > denver warehouse in one move, early Jan.
We paid for every month, and if your in contact with who you should be to verify that kind of info, they will verify it. So yes, your blowing smoke up peoples asses.

And with that im done on the subject. I think people have seen im more than up front compared to most here- but lets stay on topic about BA, or about actual minersource orders.

Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations. Originally posted in Black Arrow's self-moderated thread, but quickly deleted for being...wait for it..off-topic (and that I was trolling, so they claim). Black Arrow has proof that Matt Carson can NOT be trusted, but continue to use him as their official reseller in the US. If I were to use Tom Williams, of mybitcoin.com, as my official reseller for some product, stating that people change, would I be able to sell many product, Alex Sovu, of cardreaderfactory.com? Me, the asshole, no think so, yet...

BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.

Building was purchased today!
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man


<snip>

Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks.

BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Building acquired :)

I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give  concrete delivery.

I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet.  That'd be my recommendation

Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures.
I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup :).


And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex.

Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:


<snip>

This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts.

Shenzhen, China    11/26/2013    8:05 P.M.   Departure Scan

Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info?  When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California.
No idea on the thumbs- thats all Barn.
I will be shipping out from Central MO.

Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.


I got ya covered :P
But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v

November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347732.msg3723600#msg3723600

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bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum!

And still upgrading his second facility:


<snip>

No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out.

On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:

This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU.  You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining.  Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled.  The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.

The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.

On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.


<snip>

I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems.

I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them.

Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?

We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there :).

ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012

We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!

BUILDING #3:

Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying.

This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time?

~TMIBTCITW


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on January 30, 2015, 07:59:03 AM
Stay away from Minersource. They have stolen $1050000 from us, we're currently discussing with the police and lawyers.




Pot calling the kettle black? LOL.

How much did "Minersource" take from other fabricators? That be an interesting question to investigate. My understanding is that BlackArrow wasn't the first to make such a claim.

Steer clear of Minersource. Drop ship units to India and then onward to Dubai or something like that. Sure you can find a freight forwarder to help you achieve that without having to deal with Minersource at all.

Have a look at the Technobit / Minersource fubar build black arrow chip build to give you all the information you need to know. Something stinks and that might not be Thomas S but is someone on the payroll there and with so many other options to get hardware you are BEST to AVOID Minersource, Technobit and Black Arrow.

Like I said go with SPtech to drop ship and rebundle in India or Singapore and then on to you.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: lowbander80 on January 30, 2015, 09:05:20 AM
I bought a miner that was hosted with Minersource
I have paid for the miner on 22/12/2014 and my seller informed immidiatelly
Minersource to sent the miner to me.
After 22 days Minersource called the shipping company to sent the miner to me

1) without cables and that was an sp-30 these are not easy to be found.
2) Full of dust ////BUT TOO MUCH DUST>>>>
3) Miner was without the SP logo it was blown away for some reason
4) Scratches all over the case.
 
This miner was a direct sending from SP to Minersource.

If you think from the above that you should trust them its your choise.





Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Zich on January 30, 2015, 09:10:32 AM
I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.

Any other website I can buy the SP35 that is legit and tried by community members here?

Thanks.

Bicknellski remind me the use of freight forwarder.
Try to find freight forwarder in Jordan. Ask if they can accept shipping from Israel then ship the good to UAE.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Biffa on January 30, 2015, 10:12:25 AM
If the goods are marked "Made in Israel" or if customs have half a clue (and they usually do) then I know for sure it doesn't matter where you are sending them from, you are in for a world of pain trying to get them into a country that restricts imports from Israel. I deal with sending stuff to Israel and the ME every month, its a PITA at the best of times, not worth having your goods impounded or sent back or even destroyed.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Zich on January 30, 2015, 11:10:22 AM
If the goods are marked "Made in Israel" or if customs have half a clue (and they usually do) then I know for sure it doesn't matter where you are sending them from, you are in for a world of pain trying to get them into a country that restricts imports from Israel. I deal with sending stuff to Israel and the ME every month, its a PITA at the best of times, not worth having your goods impounded or sent back or even destroyed.


Ahh, it's seem UAE specifically restricted Israel good. https://united-arab-emirates.visahq.com/customs/

http://s26.postimg.org/d7ecurf5x/uea.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/d7ecurf5x/)


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 30, 2015, 11:11:28 AM
Gleb - I can verify that they did move from a relatively small Rolla facility directly to Denver. I'm located in Rolla, and found out they were here in town a few days before the move so I saw their facility (with only 400A 240V service) about the 2nd of January while the packup was underway. I don't know if that was the first or second or ninth or whatever location in town, but I know they weren't 90 miles away. For what that's worth.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: gbsray on January 30, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
I placed one order with them and had no problem, so I decided to place a second larger order and when it did not ship when promised, I asked for a refund and at first was told they could not process the refund due to their credit card processor reviewing all transactions. They offered to send me a company check but that sounded very fishy to me so I refused and called my credit card company and disputed the charge. I emailed Minersource, informing them I had disputed the charge and all of a sudden they processed the refund.

Very shady, I won't do business with them again. I was lucky and wont push my luck.
I remember yours it took me five failed attempts and a 30 minute phone call to Shopify to get your refund processed. I even provided you with the failed authorization numbers in your tickets.

You also didn't create a dispute with your credit card company, your order never showed a dispute pending.

Yes, I did open a dispute with my card company but when you credited me, I did the appropriate thing and closed the dispute. I gave a fair account of my experience. It seems ordering from you guys is a crap shoot, some good and some not.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on January 30, 2015, 02:06:09 PM
I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.

Any other website I can buy the SP35 that is legit and tried by community members here?

Thanks.

Bicknellski remind me the use of freight forwarder.
Try to find freight forwarder in Jordan. Ask if they can accept shipping from Israel then ship the good to UAE.

Singapore or India be a better bet or Hong Kong. Plenty online and if you have a few Chinese or Indian nationals as friends it wouldn't be that hard.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: dogie on January 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
Haven't ordered from them recently.  Last time was when the S1's were out.  At that time they were very responsive and communicated well with any concerns.  They can't take the hit for BlackArrows f up, being a small new company I'm sure they had to use their own funds to please customers when BA didn't ship.  That said they are  invested in these forums actively and that's good enough for me.  Place a small order and see for yourself. @ Thomas_s - do wish your website was kept up to date, notice old hardware lingering around with marked up prices from time to time.

Being small is not an excuse for breaking consumer law. When they ventured to profit from those transactions, they were also contracting themselves to customers. What happens in the sale between minersource and blackarrow has no bearing what so ever on the sales between customers and minersource.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Ermak on January 30, 2015, 04:56:40 PM
I bought a miner, asked  (minersource.net ) them to correct paperwork that I had no problems at customs.
Seller arrange very bad and not literate I had problems at customs and I paid the penalty(((((((((

Very bad attitude towards buyers, the seller becomes indifferent to all your requests and treatment needed to support, after payment I began to ignore my requests in support .....



Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: padrino on January 30, 2015, 04:59:32 PM
I bought a miner, asked  (minersource.net ) them to correct paperwork that I had no problems at customs.
Seller arrange very bad and not literate I had problems at customs and I paid the penalty(((((((((

Very bad attitude towards buyers, the seller becomes indifferent to all your requests and treatment needed to support, after payment I began to ignore my requests in support .....



To make sure I am reading it right, did you ask them to forge customs paperwork and you are upset because they didn't change the value of the item for you? Just want to make sure you are bitching because they would not commit a felony on your behalf... If I am reading it wrong then I apologize...


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Syke on January 30, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Being small is not an excuse for breaking consumer law. When they ventured to profit from those transactions, they were also contracting themselves to customers. What happens in the sale between minersource and blackarrow has no bearing what so ever on the sales between customers and minersource.

Exactly! That's what shows how pathetic minersource is. They pass their problems on to their customers, rather than fix their problems. That's a horrible business and no one should risk their money on such a business.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2015, 07:43:44 PM
Gleb - I can verify that they did move from a relatively small Rolla facility directly to Denver. I'm located in Rolla, and found out they were here in town a few days before the move so I saw their facility (with only 400A 240V service) about the 2nd of January while the packup was underway. I don't know if that was the first or second or ninth or whatever location in town, but I know they weren't 90 miles away. For what that's worth.

You are correct. There was no second warehouse as Matt detailed, hence my post at the time and now depicting how he lied to his customer base at the time.

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7307/16403689612_08be494aef_c.jpg

Care to guess which item in the above pic Matt packed up last when he vacated his lease for the Missouri warehouse to head to Colorado after reneging on the $20K USD loan from his mother?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 31, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
To the OP: you might see if you can talk raskul into shipping. He's selling an SP35 from the UK.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941207.0


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: philipma1957 on January 31, 2015, 04:07:30 PM
@ op   buy from bitmaintech   a few s-5's

   if someone gets the sp20 sp30 sp31 sp35 or sp10 into your home  in your country   you will be actively breaking the law have good from Israel


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on January 31, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
Being small is not an excuse for breaking consumer law. When they ventured to profit from those transactions, they were also contracting themselves to customers. What happens in the sale between minersource and blackarrow has no bearing what so ever on the sales between customers and minersource.

Exactly! That's what shows how pathetic minersource is. They pass their problems on to their customers, rather than fix their problems. That's a horrible business and no one should risk their money on such a business.

Funny Dogie seems to give Technobit a pass on their crimes with his ratings system giving them a 10 on ethics and what not... hypocrite much? Ample evidence of both these outfits acting more or less criminally. And evidence they hoodwinked people with the minersource / technobit group buy board build. SHOCKING what they did to a number of buyers.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 31, 2015, 04:56:55 PM
Technobit gets a 10 on ethics? Has he ever read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682105 about the minion boards? Sure it's a bobsag-started thread, but that was just facilitating a group deal which minersource was also a customer of. Technobit's only six months late delivering on probably hundreds of boards (while continuing to do business on other things, make new products while ignoring existing customers...), and minersource probably lost more money on that shaft than anyone else.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on January 31, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Technobit gets a 10 on ethics? Has he ever read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682105 about the minion boards? Sure it's a bobsag-started thread, but that was just facilitating a group deal which minersource was also a customer of. Technobit's only six months late delivering on probably hundreds of boards (while continuing to do business on other things, make new products while ignoring existing customers...), and minersource probably lost more money on that shaft than anyone else.

There is PLENTY more available on technobit outright fraud but Dogie I guess is a paid spokesmen for them as well given that rating seems to be a few of those type ratings in his guide. Minersource to my knowledge has also defrauded at least one other fabricator like the claim black arrow made and have as Gleb said left a trail of broken contracts beyond what you read in these forums typically. Do not deal with either company. Further just avoid Dogie's hardware guide too many inconsistencies with regards to turning a blind eye to fraud or lack of ethics.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: dogie on January 31, 2015, 07:19:50 PM
There is PLENTY more available on technobit outright fraud but Dogie I guess is a paid spokesmen for them as well given that rating seems to be a few of those type ratings in his guide. Minersource to my knowledge has also defrauded at least one other fabricator like the claim black arrow made and have as Gleb said left a trail of broken contracts beyond what you read in these forums typically. Do not deal with either company. Further just avoid Dogie's hardware guide too many inconsistencies with regards to turning a blind eye to fraud or lack of ethics.

Bick, almost everything you post nowadays is about me, and while I'm flattered I'm not interested. For someone who has apparently ignored me and blocked me from PMs (when you were asked by a mod to PM me to resolve a problem you had LOL), you still seem mighty obsessed. Anyway

1) My guide has nothing to do with minersource, resellers are not manufacturers.
2) What you failed to mention is that order delays don't fall under "ethics" as they are not ethical infractions, something you'd know if you'd bothered to read the criterion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.msg5035158#msg5035158) before calling me a fraud.
3) Technobit's ratings for on time deliveries and refund issues are too high however, and will be corrected in the next update. See? That was easy, when something is wrong all you have to do is point it out, again rather than calling me a fraud.
4) No I am not a paid spokesman [not spokesmen] for Technobit, otherwise you'd see a message about that. I don't do deals in the dark, there is a reason everything I do is done in the bright light of the forums.
5) Scam accusations subforum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) is over here, let me know when you've posted it.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: MrTeal on January 31, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
Yes long ago they were.

I don't believe that is true.  I believe the owner of minersource.net received a scammer tag on these forums before he ever got a new forum username and started minersource.net.
What was his old username that was scammer tagged?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: OgNasty on January 31, 2015, 08:41:42 PM
Yes long ago they were.

I don't believe that is true.  I believe the owner of minersource.net received a scammer tag on these forums before he ever got a new forum username and started minersource.net.

What was his old username that was scammer tagged?

If Legendary Member Hippie Tech (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31553) is to be believed, bobsag3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144143)'s scammer profile is borito4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10897).


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on January 31, 2015, 09:14:41 PM
Yes long ago they were.

I don't believe that is true.  I believe the owner of minersource.net received a scammer tag on these forums before he ever got a new forum username and started minersource.net.

What was his old username that was scammer tagged?

If Legendary Member Hippie Tech (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31553) is to be believed, bobsag3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144143)'s scammer profile is borito4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10897).

Looks to be confirmed by DyslexicZombei

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335145.msg4844701#msg4844701


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Ramirov on February 04, 2015, 08:39:38 AM
i recieved this PM from thomas, everything looks good on that page.

the idea of sending to jordan is not good, the customs there is so high, and then i have to ship it again to dubai.

shipping to india or singapore might work, checking with some indian friends who work here in dubai, to see if i can manage it to be sen to india, replace all illegalities then send it back to dubai.


thanks for all your help.


for the info, i have a 200A store with free electricity and internet and free cooling, i work as IT Manager in dubai, and have lots of locations in the company i can use with no cost affecting my pocket, so thanks everyone for your help here.



Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on February 04, 2015, 09:39:37 AM
i recieved this PM from thomas, everything looks good on that page.

the idea of sending to jordan is not good, the customs there is so high, and then i have to ship it again to dubai.

shipping to india or singapore might work, checking with some indian friends who work here in dubai, to see if i can manage it to be sen to india, replace all illegalities then send it back to dubai.


thanks for all your help.


for the info, i have a 200A store with free electricity and internet and free cooling, i work as IT Manager in dubai, and have lots of locations in the company i can use with no cost affecting my pocket, so thanks everyone for your help here.



Wish you luck.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: 56k on February 06, 2015, 05:11:50 PM
There is PLENTY more available on technobit outright fraud but Dogie I guess is a paid spokesmen for them as well given that rating seems to be a few of those type ratings in his guide. Minersource to my knowledge has also defrauded at least one other fabricator like the claim black arrow made and have as Gleb said left a trail of broken contracts beyond what you read in these forums typically. Do not deal with either company. Further just avoid Dogie's hardware guide too many inconsistencies with regards to turning a blind eye to fraud or lack of ethics.

Bick, almost everything you post nowadays is about me, and while I'm flattered I'm not interested. For someone who has apparently ignored me and blocked me from PMs (when you were asked by a mod to PM me to resolve a problem you had LOL), you still seem mighty obsessed. Anyway

1) My guide has nothing to do with minersource, resellers are not manufacturers.
2) What you failed to mention is that order delays don't fall under "ethics" as they are not ethical infractions, something you'd know if you'd bothered to read the criterion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.msg5035158#msg5035158) before calling me a fraud.
3) Technobit's ratings for on time deliveries and refund issues are too high however, and will be corrected in the next update. See? That was easy, when something is wrong all you have to do is point it out, again rather than calling me a fraud.
4) No I am not a paid spokesman [not spokesmen] for Technobit, otherwise you'd see a message about that. I don't do deals in the dark, there is a reason everything I do is done in the bright light of the forums.
5) Scam accusations subforum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) is over here, let me know when you've posted it.
I'll roll with Bick on this one when posters pretty much pleaded with you to take a look at BA's rating at the height of its SCAM you did nothing of the such and let them roll with a semi decent rating while most of those asking you WTH was up were actual BA buyers including myself your EGO left the door open for others to be scammed so as far as his statement about your rating system being garbage I'll buy tickets for that opinion all day long.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on February 06, 2015, 05:14:32 PM
There is PLENTY more available on technobit outright fraud but Dogie I guess is a paid spokesmen for them as well given that rating seems to be a few of those type ratings in his guide. Minersource to my knowledge has also defrauded at least one other fabricator like the claim black arrow made and have as Gleb said left a trail of broken contracts beyond what you read in these forums typically. Do not deal with either company. Further just avoid Dogie's hardware guide too many inconsistencies with regards to turning a blind eye to fraud or lack of ethics.

Bick, almost everything you post nowadays is about me, and while I'm flattered I'm not interested. For someone who has apparently ignored me and blocked me from PMs (when you were asked by a mod to PM me to resolve a problem you had LOL), you still seem mighty obsessed. Anyway

1) My guide has nothing to do with minersource, resellers are not manufacturers.
2) What you failed to mention is that order delays don't fall under "ethics" as they are not ethical infractions, something you'd know if you'd bothered to read the criterion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.msg5035158#msg5035158) before calling me a fraud.
3) Technobit's ratings for on time deliveries and refund issues are too high however, and will be corrected in the next update. See? That was easy, when something is wrong all you have to do is point it out, again rather than calling me a fraud.
4) No I am not a paid spokesman [not spokesmen] for Technobit, otherwise you'd see a message about that. I don't do deals in the dark, there is a reason everything I do is done in the bright light of the forums.
5) Scam accusations subforum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) is over here, let me know when you've posted it.
I'll roll with Bick on this one when posters pretty much pleaded with you to take a look at BA's rating at the height of its SCAM you did nothing of the such and let them roll with a semi decent rating while most of those asking you WTH was up were actual BA buyers including myself your EGO left the door open for others to be scammed so as far as his statement about your rating system being garbage I'll buy tickets for that opinion all day long.

Technobit 10/10 Ethics... 10/10 Shipping.

Ya I am the one with the problem.

I would love to write a review for the 2hex8m but I'm still waiting for my 2 to arrive ordered in December pre production batch. To this day I've had promise after promises from Martin when I have phoned, but much to my dismay I'm 606 euros down no miners and not much more to say really.
I'd just like my money back now so I can buy myself something useful like a bike
peace all
Mike :)

Also the fact that Black Arrow claims Minersource took $1,050,000 USD in product and never paid for it is a BIG red flag. You can't trust either Minersource or Black Arrow and given what Dogie does now in his guide it is clear he is skewing ratings to protect those he "likes" over the reality of what they offer. If he doesn't "like" the company in question then he finds "good" reasons to modify the ratings downward.

As I said before Minersource has allegedly done this sort of receive miners from fabricators and not paid before it is a patten.

He might think he is doing a wonderful job but the community knows the score no matter what his ratings system tries to do to spin it.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: 56k on February 06, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
As far as your question OP I'd suggest you avoid that transaction . I was tempted to buy from MS when I was looking for my minion and sent them an e-mail asking some info and such and didn't feel good about the reply i got so i didn't order through them but did a straight test order to BA direct still waiting for that to be filled different story though . Anyway now BA is claiming MS has stolen from them which makes no sense since the units are useless but hey maybe they are using them for something cause when i asked MS about it they deleted my question and won't reply so something stinks there. Long story short Look elsewhere you'll be happy you did.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on February 06, 2015, 10:31:44 PM
Kingcolex - was that one of their 4-chip Minion boards? When did you order, and when did you receive it? I've got guys that reserved space in my hosting in August (and sent coolers and TPlinks ahead) for boards that were ordered in July and haven't shown up yet.

I'm waiting on two of their boards which Minersource should have had by the end of July.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on February 07, 2015, 01:17:49 AM
Ah. So you're one of the lucky ones.

My shop even offered Technobit our services to do all the rework for US-bound boards after they found out they sucked so much. Marto talked to us for about a day and then disappeared. Shoot we were gonna do the work for free just to get our hosting customers up to speed. They must have been in the second batch...


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: kilo17 on February 08, 2015, 08:02:38 AM
is minersource still around...their website has disappeared....


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: MyRig on February 08, 2015, 08:15:42 AM
Since we are getting inquires from MinerSource.net customers, not able to communicate with the sellers....

We have no idea of their status.  It could be just their website is down or DNS setting may went bad or whatever the cause may be  ???

If you are MinerSource.net customers who purchased Bitmain Antminer Products and needing tech support or warranty be taken care of, please submit a ticket at http://bitmain.zendesk.com or PM us or call us at +1-844-248-6246 Option 2

We CAN NOT issue refund on items purchased from MinerSource.net or Miner Hosting LLC, however, we may be able to assist you with the warranty or tech support need for the Bitmain Antminer Products.

Bitmain Product Warranties are 90-days from the factory shipping date.  (Not the day you purchased from someone reselling them.)  However, we do service miners that are even out of warranty for a small fees.  Just let us know what you need and we sure have some solutions for you on Antminer Related Products.






Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: PatMan on February 08, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
Since we are getting inquires from MinerSource.net customers, not able to communicate with the sellers....

We have no idea of their status.  It could be just their website is down or DNS setting may went bad or whatever the cause may be  ???

If you are MinerSource.net customers who purchased Bitmain Antminer Products and needing tech support or warranty be taken care of, please submit a ticket at http://bitmain.zendesk.com or PM us or call us at +1-844-248-6246 Option 2

We CAN NOT issue refund on items purchased from MinerSource.net or Miner Hosting LLC, however, we may be able to assist you with the warranty or tech support need for the Bitmain Antminer Products.

Bitmain Product Warranties are 90-days from the factory shipping date.  (Not the day you purchased from someone reselling them.)  However, we do service miners that are even out of warranty for a small fees.  Just let us know what you need and we sure have some solutions for you on Antminer Related Products.

That's a kind offer BitmainWarranty - kudos for trying to help the community members who have been screwed by MinerSource.net  :)


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: picolo on February 08, 2015, 11:29:29 AM
I am trying to buy some SP35 miners from minersource.net.

I've read some comments about this website on reddit, all the comments are a 1 year old, and they are mostly negative.

Anyone have any experience with this website, and what about the delivery time and supplies.

Are they legit?

Buy only one to test the service.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Shazam!!! on February 08, 2015, 05:56:40 PM
I can't seem to find their site now. Hmmm...


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 08, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
I can't seem to find their site now. Hmmm...

Seriously! I had no trouble finding it. In fact, here it is. Happy shopping!: http://minersource.net/

http://s8.postimg.org/3luzvmvl1/minersource.jpg


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: nexus99 on February 08, 2015, 06:37:08 PM
I can't seem to find their site now. Hmmm...

Seriously! I had no trouble finding it. In fact, here it is. Happy shopping!: http://minersource.net/

http://s8.postimg.org/3luzvmvl1/minersource.jpg

I have bought many items from them... but their site looks down now.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 08, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
I can't seem to find their site now. Hmmm...

Seriously! I had no trouble finding it. In fact, here it is. Happy shopping!: http://minersource.net/

http://s8.postimg.org/3luzvmvl1/minersource.jpg

I have bought many items from them... but their site looks down now.

Maybe Matt Carson's hiding from the dudes that fronted him product for his hookah.

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/91/9111b7d06de0c4b4d1765e8e879412193c971f3e75df69d5822fae263844a58b.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/csizz/TWW_1x16_030.jpg~original
"Yeah, Matt, Leo needs some stuff. No, not that LEO."


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: philipma1957 on February 08, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
sad

 DzCoop >>> became minersource    turned into a mess.

Whether Black Arrow was the villain  does not really matter.  The bottom line is as Bick says both Black Arrow and minersource are to be avoided.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: MyRig on February 12, 2015, 05:18:04 AM
We are still getting inquires from their customers for unable to reach them... so here you go again.

According to the Bitcointalk.org website, they are still around on the forum

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144143
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138415

For Tech Supports and Warranty Need from former Minersource.net or Miner Hosting LLC customers who can't reach them for their assistance (For BITMAIN ANTMINER PRODUCTS ONLY), can be serviced from here.  please send e-mail to [ support @ bitmain . zendesk . com ] with a proof of purchase from Minersource.net or Miner Hosting LLC.  We will waive the need for the original order confirmation number from Bitmaintech.com order page.

WE CAN NOT HONOR ANY REFUND REQUEST on hardware you purchased from Minersource.net or Miner Hosting LLC.  Please contact your bank or credit card companies for those need.



Since we are getting inquires from MinerSource.net customers, not able to communicate with the sellers....

We have no idea of their status.  It could be just their website is down or DNS setting may went bad or whatever the cause may be  ???

If you are MinerSource.net customers who purchased Bitmain Antminer Products and needing tech support or warranty be taken care of, please submit a ticket at http://bitmain.zendesk.com or PM us or call us at +1-844-248-6246 Option 2

We CAN NOT issue refund on items purchased from MinerSource.net or Miner Hosting LLC, however, we may be able to assist you with the warranty or tech support need for the Bitmain Antminer Products.

Bitmain Product Warranties are 90-days from the factory shipping date.  (Not the day you purchased from someone reselling them.)  However, we do service miners that are even out of warranty for a small fees.  Just let us know what you need and we sure have some solutions for you on Antminer Related Products.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on February 12, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
I was talking to bobsag last week about sourcing some PSUs; over preceding weeks we'd been discussing doing some work for them. I've had no contact since last Thursday, didn't respond to email or phone.

I'm not sure what that means for them, but that's the way it is from our end.

Anyone trying to look to Minersource for their Dell 750W or DPS-2000BB PSU hardware, I was a primary supplier for both those things so I reckon just talk to me directly. I have nothing to do with actual miner sales though, so can't help there. Good of Bitmain to pick up some slack there with warranties.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 12, 2015, 11:28:30 PM
I was talking to bobsag last week about sourcing some PSUs; over preceding weeks we'd been discussing doing some work for them. I've had no contact since last Thursday, didn't respond to email or phone.

I'm not sure what that means for them, but that's the way it is from our end.

Anyone trying to look to Minersource for their Dell 750W or DPS-2000BB PSU hardware, I was a primary supplier for both those things so I reckon just talk to me directly. I have nothing to do with actual miner sales though, so can't help there. Good of Bitmain to pick up some slack there with warranties.

And they say weed doesn't impair the brain. I say Matt Carson is an excellent case study: While in Missouri, he was a fuckup; Upon moving to Colorado, he converted to a major fuckup. Do the hash maths!


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on February 13, 2015, 03:31:21 AM
I have no idea if it was a coincidence or not, but he started replying to emails about ten minutes after I posted that.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: heslo on February 13, 2015, 07:24:25 AM
I was talking to bobsag last week about sourcing some PSUs; over preceding weeks we'd been discussing doing some work for them. I've had no contact since last Thursday, didn't respond to email or phone.

I'm not sure what that means for them, but that's the way it is from our end.

Anyone trying to look to Minersource for their Dell 750W or DPS-2000BB PSU hardware, I was a primary supplier for both those things so I reckon just talk to me directly. I have nothing to do with actual miner sales though, so can't help there. Good of Bitmain to pick up some slack there with warranties.

And they say weed doesn't impair the brain. I say Matt Carson is an excellent case study: While in Missouri, he was a fuckup; Upon moving to Colorado, he converted to a major fuckup. Do the hash maths!

Not only a fuck up, but a thief too!


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 14, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
Matt Carson's go-big-or-go-home hookah:

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/burke/img/lab_tour/qdig-files/converted-images/img/lab_tour/lab%20tour/xlg_4.%20A%20Common%20Hood%20(Go%20Big%20or%20Go%20Home!).jpg


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Meech on February 15, 2015, 02:12:34 AM
It's too bad it's A typical for crypto companies to give no warning before closing shop.
Other than the normal avoiding email and correspondence.  Shame on You!  I guess I was
wrong about them. >:(


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 15, 2015, 05:03:33 AM
It's too bad it's A typical for crypto companies to give no warning before closing shop.
Other than the normal avoiding email and correspondence.  Shame on You!  I guess I was
wrong about them. >:(

Rest assured that Matt Carson DIDN'T pay the last couple months of his lease like when he was in Missouri, having ONLY paid the initial monthly lease and deposit, sucking close to three months outta of the warehouse owner prior to skipping town the state, even leaving his own mother holding the bag of the $20K she lent him for his hookah and supplies startup.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: MyRig on March 15, 2015, 08:09:23 PM
We are still getting contacted from the customers of Minersource.net and Miner Hosting LLC... so let us repost this!

Also, we are getting inquires from minersource.net customers regarding hosted miners went offline for weeks and missing. We are NOT affiliated with minersource.net or Miner Hosting LLC and we DO NOT have information regarding their business status.

We have nothing to do with any miners being hosted by Minersource.net or bobsag3 or Thomas_s.  They were either hosted in their Aurora, Colorado facility or some at various locations.  Some users posted that Minersource.net was hosting miners at other facilities as well.  Please look at the trust feedback related to bobsag3 or Thomas_s for additional information.

According to some customers, some miners were sent to MinerSource's Facility in State of Oregon in USA. (We never verified that but it appeared the facility belonged to other company.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976172.20
OregonMines.com


Since we are getting inquires from MinerSource.net customers, not able to communicate with the sellers....

We have no idea of their status.  It could be just their website is down or DNS setting may went bad or whatever the cause may be  ???

If you are MinerSource.net customers who purchased Bitmain Antminer Products and needing tech support or warranty be taken care of, please submit a ticket at http://bitmain.zendesk.com or PM us or call us at +1-844-248-6246 Option 2

We CAN NOT issue refund on items purchased from MinerSource.net or Miner Hosting LLC, however, we may be able to assist you with the warranty or tech support need for the Bitmain Antminer Products.

Bitmain Product Warranties are 90-days from the factory shipping date.  (Not the day you purchased from someone reselling them.)  However, we do service miners that are even out of warranty for a small fees.  Just let us know what you need and we sure have some solutions for you on Antminer Related Products.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Minecraftzombie on March 30, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
Found Matt Carson from MinerSource.net  may be Thomas_s may be there too ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976172.msg10918431#msg10918431

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/687/graph/pic%205%20OregonMines_com.png

Ref: https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/173284-2015-03-28-ernest-hancock-at-the-texas-bitcoin-conf-pics-from-event.htm


Guess who was at the Oregon Mines booth at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.

(http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors).

https://i.imgur.com/kUyCO1s.jpg

Interesting.

So you can all ask Matthew to give you your refunds if you are looking for him. He is working for Oregon Mines.

Be careful dealing with this company. Minersource was just one more iteration of the same thing obviously Matt Carson is totally involved in this company as a VP.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: alh on March 31, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
For what it's worth, there is a thread under "Group Buys" related to Oregon Mines and Matt Carson. Read it and take what you will from it in terms of legitimacy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976172.60


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: ScryptAsic on March 31, 2015, 01:41:01 AM
So did they rip anyone off or just change names? I have purchased a few miners from Minersource.net in the past and never had any types of issues. It is really sad how much drama is involved in the mining scene.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: heslo on March 31, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
Found Matt Carson from MinerSource.net  may be Thomas_s may be there too ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976172.msg10918431#msg10918431

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/687/graph/pic%205%20OregonMines_com.png

Ref: https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/173284-2015-03-28-ernest-hancock-at-the-texas-bitcoin-conf-pics-from-event.htm


Guess who was at the Oregon Mines booth at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.

(http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors).

https://i.imgur.com/kUyCO1s.jpg

Interesting.

So you can all ask Matthew to give you your refunds if you are looking for him. He is working for Oregon Mines.

Be careful dealing with this company. Minersource was just one more iteration of the same thing obviously Matt Carson is totally involved in this company as a VP.

LOL what a fucking gronk. It's sad a fucking loser kid like that has managed to steal so much from so many people. Obviously picked on too much in school


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Unacceptable on March 31, 2015, 11:26:41 PM
Bullshit,being picked on in school is NOT an excuse.......my school days sucked big time & I don't steal  ::)

Orange/red hair,80lbs soaking wet,big freakin glasses, was not conducive to being "cool"  :D

He's just a P.O.S!!!  :P


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: heslo on April 01, 2015, 03:57:18 AM
Bullshit,being picked on in school is NOT an excuse.......my school days sucked big time & I don't steal  ::)

Orange/red hair,80lbs soaking wet,big freakin glasses, was not conducive to being "cool"  :D

He's just a P.O.S!!!  :P

You're right, I was just being a smart ass.

But you're right, all he is is a piece of shit


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Meech on April 01, 2015, 04:57:49 AM
WOW, can't believe they went tits up and now trying the same game under different name.
They were respectable until the whole BlackArrow thing but like all(most) crypto companies large and small they set up shop one day gone the next.
That's why these forums are needed.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notalin on April 01, 2015, 05:00:11 AM
I am trying to buy some SP35 miners from minersource.net.

I've read some comments about this website on reddit, all the comments are a 1 year old, and they are mostly negative.

Anyone have any experience with this website, and what about the delivery time and supplies.

Are they legit?

Don't mention to this site. Keep it away from your pocket.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: Bicknellski on April 01, 2015, 05:14:01 AM
WOW, can't believe they went tits up and now trying the same game under different name.
They were respectable until the whole BlackArrow thing but like all(most) crypto companies large and small they set up shop one day gone the next.
That's why these forums are needed.

That is not entirely true there were plenty of questionable issues well before the Black Arrow situation. Particularly with regards to other Chinese fabricators and what they took without paying for the product. This was a scam to get refunds on working product they lied about them not working and used 3rd parties as the scapegoat. There is a LONG history stretching back to scam days of Matt with his mixing coins site. Look at the trail of that Gleb pointed out with the data centers. Plenty of broken promises to the clients, and employees and landlords.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: tm123 on April 21, 2015, 04:00:37 PM
Hello!
I ordered  a machine from Minersource.com. It was over a year ago. No if I want to contact them they dont answere. I payed so much money and now I dont have the machine  and money. What sould I do?


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notlist3d on April 21, 2015, 04:12:15 PM
Hello!
I ordered  a machine from Minersource.com. It was over a year ago. No if I want to contact them they dont answere. I payed so much money and now I dont have the machine  and money. What sould I do?

If it was a "lot" go get a lawyer, as I don't think they are legit at this point.   If it's not enough for a lawyer you might try small claims court, or sadly chalk it up to a lesson learned. 

Lawyers are not cheap so it would have to be considerable amount to get one.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: sidehack on April 21, 2015, 05:40:12 PM
Contact Oregon Mines to get ahold of Matt Carson, the guy in charge of Minersource. He's now Oregon Mines' VP of Sales I believe. There's more discussion around this in their Group Buys thread.


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: digit on April 21, 2015, 06:00:47 PM
Contact Oregon Mines to get ahold of Matt Carson, the guy in charge of Minersource. He's now Oregon Mines' VP of Sales I believe. There's more discussion around this in their Group Buys thread.

thanks for the tip. his business card was posted in their thread. 


Guess who was at the Oregon Mines booth at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.

(http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors).

https://i.imgur.com/kUyCO1s.jpg

Interesting.

So you can all ask Matthew to give you your refunds if you are looking for him. He is working for Oregon Mines.

Be careful dealing with this company. Minersource was just one more iteration of the same thing obviously Matt Carson is totally involved in this company as a VP.

 


Title: Re: Is minersource.net legit
Post by: notlist3d on April 21, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
Contact Oregon Mines to get ahold of Matt Carson, the guy in charge of Minersource. He's now Oregon Mines' VP of Sales I believe. There's more discussion around this in their Group Buys thread.

I could have been jaded ever since they stole some of my Silverfish 28 pics for their website I lost a lot of respect for them.  Met them in person and they acted like they didn't know they took the pic.

That jadedness might have saved me from ordering from them.