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This thread is to spread the word.

2+ million Darkcoin/DASH were instamined in the first 48 hours30 hours of launch. (1.5 million in the first 8 hours) Dev tries to make everyone believe it was an accident.

After the initial 2+ million coin instamine, they start using private GPU miners while convincing everyone else it's still a CPU only coin.

In addition, they:

- Lower the block emission 100x (500 coins per block to 5 coins per block)
- Lower the total coin supply that can ever exist from 80 million to 20 million
- Try and fail to bury the instamine by not mentioning it on the OP or the website
- Try to distance themselves from these facts by going through two rebrandings

https://i.imgur.com/wUvNpw2.png


They instamined at 100x emission and then drastically reduced the supply and emission rate once they had their fill. What a scam!  ::)

Spread the word, research.

Oh , another XMR user ::)

They got people to buy into it  :D

Profit well deserved.  As for the bagholders?  rofl.

Dash corporation isnt stopping till it scams more noobs yet

How do we know it was after?

Got that gui done? Get to work turd.

I wonder what it means when questions about DRK are met not with answers but with insults and questions about some unrelated coin.

Lol another dark/dashcoin is a scam thread. I see AdamWhite still touches little boys...

Smooth you are better than this. Why don't you concentrate on XMR instead?

I thought that DRK is Bitcoin based and Dash is CN based...

Not any more.

Dark just renamed to Dash. Its still a bitcoin codebase covered with anon confetti

That is what I mean. Dashcoin is CN, but Dash (Darkcoin) was bitcoin based, not CN.

You are just upset because you never profited...

Good point.. if the devs are willing to lie about the instamine being an "accident" - why not just use the GPU miner from the time of launch?

Might explain this gem:

https://i.imgur.com/4I6EBtf.png

I think there wasn't a single day without such a post. People miss trains and then cry about it in "scam" accusations.

The idea of crypto is decentralization away from central dictators. But he this is the dark world and the dark fanboys haven’t got it yet. Dictator evan says my scam is now called dash and thats it.

https://i.imgur.com/3pcRWpf.png

or,,, or,,,, darkcoin is overtaking dashcoin in order to migrate the coin into a cryptonote-based coin with another fork!!

now THERE's some FUD. completely unfounded FUD. Enjoy!

Don't worry, the DASH rebranding fiasco is shaping up to be the catalyst for the exposure of their HYIP scam.

They'll never get the rights to the trademark, and the AZ Atty General will be making inquiries regarding their purported Masternode ROI:

https://i.imgur.com/kHW81Vc.png

http://darkcoin.guide/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/masternode_payment_plan.png

Good shit wow.

So, the cryptocurrency is a leader in Market Cap.
Seems to have some interresting fascets to it's algorithm such as X11.

I'm assessing the currency to see if it's a good investment. I hear the instamine cries, but I don't think that destroys the validity of the currency.....

Idk, maybe it does...

Is it true? This is scared. Dogecoin is reliable, I think.

Here is a thread on bounty to fork dash

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999633.msg10852558#msg10852558

Ask Sosa and McGwire.

Even though I no longer own any Dash and don't have any links to the Dash team any more I thought I'd highlight how moronic this post is.

Illodin was asking a valid question but given that at that moment the difficulty was 0.06250000 and the block reward was 500 and that there were already miners selling coins in bundles of 100s and low 1000s by that point, this is simply no evidence of anything other than Evan had a CPU miner running from launch.

I think it is healthy to question the origins of a coin if there are serious concerns but why spend your life taking out of context quotes and starting threads repeating the same old shit over and over again?

For weeks back in 2014 Dark/Dash was at sale for peanuts. I didnt mine, just bought some:

https://i.imgur.com/76djcwb.jpg

We made our distribution long ago. Stop with this "instamine" crap. The actual value of the coin is because the dedicated effort of Evan & team. This is no hard to understand.

You missed it. Get over it.

Again, not the point... look at this chart:
https://i.imgur.com/dSe9cRz.jpg

So this doesn't look like an 'instamine' to you? Seriously? I understand you maybe have some vested interests in this coin, but why deny something that obvious? There was a pre-/instamine. I don't care about the distribution afterwards, it was a scammy launch, especially because Evan lied about when he would start mining...
If this was not an instamine, how would you define it then?

best regards

Noone is denying the bugs at the launch:

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162

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Launch

It was January 18, 2014 and I had everything ready or so I thought. I announced the launch of Darkcoin (XCoin at the time) on BitcoinTalk. We launched later and immediately got stuck on block 42, I was new to the Bitcoin codebase and wasn’t sure what I missed so I announced we’d relaunch later.

When we relaunched we had a rush of miners join causing a huge spike of coin production without it being able to adjust the difficulty quick enough, we just ended up spilling out coins. Retargeting happened every 576 blocks and could only increase the difficulty by four times, so it took about six retargets to get to a difficulty that was near 2.5 minutes per block.

Later on, after the difficulty evened out we realized that there was a serious problem with the block reward calculation. You can see people discussing the problems here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.120

I soon fixed this issue at block 4500, but none of us realized the amount of coins that had been issued at the time. At that point we didn’t even have a block explorer yet.

---

At the beginning, Xcoin was nothing than other shitcoin. And for several weeks was distributed because price was really low, as u can see here:

https://i.imgur.com/76djcwb.jpg

After that, the developer began to work seriously on it, then Dash become what is now.  

Noone is hiding the truth. I know the truth because I was there. Wanna cry all Bitcointalk about it? Be my guest.

Meanwhile, we are working:

https://dashtalk.org/forums/official-announcements.54

You don't like it? Is fine, I don't like most of the alts out there. 

Best regards,

Then if you're sincere you should launch again... If the coin is really that good, I'm sure a fair launch will only add up to its value... Then you won't have to deal with shills like me anymore.

And again, Evan lied:

Definitely not...

You don't get it, do you?   :-[

The coin was a crap, buggy one at launch. Now, after more than a year of hard work is valuable.

Wanna do a relauch? Do it, is open source!! Just clone it, call it "obitcoin" and that's it! You have your own coin. With Masternodes, InstantX and all the stuff.

What I see every day is greed and desperate people from other coins, trying to destroy what they think is better.

Just a little advice from an old man:

Just live and let live others. And do something positive with your time.  ;)
 

meh, I don't like the centralising Masternodes either ;-)

But hey, nice of you to admit the launch was buggy and thus lead to a de facto instamine... I don't care what the intention was (bad or good), the result was an instamine, nice of you to admit that.

best regards

I am not aware of anybody within the Darkcoin/Dash community (including Evan) who has ever denied the instamine happened.  There is even a section in the Dash wiki about it.

Crave is based largely on SDC and Dash code...maybe the Dash haters should go and play with Crave instead of focussing all of this jealousy. :D

The Birth Of Darkcoin

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162

Was Dash Instamined?

http://wiki.dashpay.io/display/DRK/Legacy+FAQ


Long time no see Stone. We miss you  :P

Yes, the incomplete, watered down versions are mentioned on dashtalk and on a shitty looking wiki barely anyone visits.

If Evan is so open about it, i wonder why he doesn't mention it in the DASH thread on Bitcointalk, or any thread whatsoever on Bitcointalk  ::) He knows how bad it looks, and no one is believing that it was a "bug" either.

It was a deliberate instamine which he later blamed on a bug because he couldn't hide it. Despicable.

Later, when? You mean later on the launch day?

Because Evan only posts on BCT about updates or in response to technical queries.  If he replied to 10% of the posts about the early days of Darkcoin he wouldn't have any time to code.

Thanks mate, I miss the Drk community too.  I should pop in and say hello now and again :)

Why do you still feel the need to apologize for him and make ridiculous excuses?

If he's open and honest about the instamine as you claim, then it should be in the BCT announcement thread. Period

XMR user or not, OP is 100 % right. Darkcoin got insanely instamined by Linux users, this is all demonstrable with proof. The fact you ant ot support an instamined coin leads me to believe that you are loaded big time with DRK. Good look to you, but look what happened to Bytecoin vs Monero.

Evan doesn't need my apologies and he also doesn't need any excuses, ridiculous or otherwise.

I recommend sanitary towels if you have your period.  You might run the risk of Toxic Shock Syndrome if you use tampons.

Nobody cares apart from supporters of coins who have been pushed down the marketcap list Dash. 

You guys crack me up.  Buy some Dash or make your own coins better.  Either way, stop crying about it.

I love people who say look at the scoreboard 2 minutes into the game.   ;)

Nice response, i asked a valid question and you lash out.

you know as well as i do that the only reason to keep it off the OP is because he knows how bad it looks and doesn't really want people to know. So fuck off with your ad hominem attacks

dash instamine is greatest of al cryptocoins, let us bow down to dash.

The rich get richer at ever faster dead spiralling end. It was never designed for the long run.
https://i.imgur.com/CwgZRuT.png
It even makes fiat look good.

Can't speak to whether or not this is a scam, but the master nodes idea seem interesting.  Though it doesbenefit early adopters more since they likely had the 1000 or so Dash needed to set one (or a few up).

Anyway, I hold a tiny little bit of Dash that I bought into at the recent low a few months ago.  Will sell it as soon as it reaches my target price to buy something else  ;D (I'm sure you know what that will be).  Maybe I'll even buy back some Dash if it goes low again.

Scam or not, it's always best to diversify your investments.  Years from now, many of the 'better' altcoins will be very valuable.

Adam White, DASH is not a coin, it's a religion. Don't even try to speak rationally to the believers

A half million coins were mined within one hour. That's more than "a few" masternodes.

Wow, that's more than i realised

And none of those were sold, ever.

You guys .....
the issues posted above were acknowledge by evan and the Dash Community many times over,
sure you keep screaming SCAM , just to get Monroe into the News.
(if you think that is PR, good luck)

On a sidenote :
The crypto eco system has enough problems for adoption as is.
You guys as the kings of  FUD and TROLLing in this eco system should really reconsider
you 'attempts' here, as you are not only giving yourself a bad name, but everybody (incl BTC,...) else !

Aren't we all in the early stages on the Crypto Scene ?
Shouldn't we support the general crypto approach to help get more adoption accross the board ?
(think about it)

you are still stuck in some Anon Race from 1.5 years ago
grow up, and start looking at the bigger picture !

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Just because people don't like dash and are vocal about it doesn't make them look bad.

That's just your view.

I've always called out shady behavior on this forum and I will continue to do so and that includes dash/trash/whatever.

Then can you please include the scammy Monero start with the botched miner. If you do this I will conclude that you are actually fair and looking out for the general public.

Please start by posting daily in all of the Monero forums of the unfair scammy start it had.

Sorry cant do that. Reality is reality no matter how desperate you are.

Xcoin/Darkcoin/Dash is one of the biggest scams in crypto and you guys are supporting it just because you want to get rich. You should be ashamed

You're comparing apples and 747 jet liners. Monero didn't emit half of all coins in existence until months after there were nvidia and amd gpu miners available for windows and linux, not too mention optimized cpu miners. Dash/Darkcoin/Xcoin emitted about half of all coins in existence in the first 24 hours of its existence, before there was even a windows client, then promised a relaunch, then just changed its name instead.

Also, how the motherfuck do you get such an awesomely negative trust rating:
https://i.imgur.com/4YYi1hJ.png
?

Last I heard Monero developer FluffyPony is on Vacation because of a sickness he has, funny thing is it didn't matter because I c no different anyway for a 1.5 years so far LOL.

Monero thinks DASH/Whitecoin/Shadowcash/Litecoin...you get it basically anything that is not Monero or Boolberry is the reason why they are down on the marketcap, and not because of their trolling + copy cat low grade developers.

Create as many polls against Evan or Dash while you play ur silly childish BTCTALK games, we are having votes on things that actually matter.

Don't look up look down...Rubycoin is catching up to you! LOOOOOOOOOOOOL


Cry more.

Hey Muner0 scammers and trollers - I actually have to scroll down on coin market cap to find your shitty coin....cant believe you idiots even have the nerve to say shit when your worthless coin is going down the shitter...30 something cents ROFL...You truly are amongst the shitcoins.

Its been 1.5 years and Monero is EXACTLY the same as it was when it launched from ripping off bytecoin. Too bad your dev's probably only know how to write comments to code and not actually code.

All i want to say is lolz for you

That's news to me...what sickness do I have? Let me know so I can tell my doctor.

Perhaps you're thinking of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LTT0xwdfw

Perhaps your sickness is you're too Fluffy.  ;D

So the Dashtards want this thread removed from Google search results... shocking  ::)






https://i.imgur.com/xuPzGcQ.jpg

this deserves to be reposted here:


Wrong. Here is the math below for a apples to apples comparison of mintage vs time:

Litecoin current supply - 42,681,260 LTC

In the first 24 hours   504,650 LTC were mined
Block #10092          2011-10-14 03:08:59
LINK: http://explorer.litecoin.net/chain/Litecoin?hi=12095&count=2016
block link: http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/fca5b3100fe457c1642c914c45214b4860aacd265d8bfd1e4af0004fd89a9032


After 1 year 9 months later -  19,398,754  LTC were mined  
block #387,985
DATE & TIME - 2013-07-13 12:53:54
link: http://explorer.litecoin.net/chain/Litecoin?hi=390000&count=2016

504,650 / 19,398,754 = 0.02601455742982 OR 2.6% of supply


block link: http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/37c6b847bd3d433247cff941ed874786487715ff4fff9c2977bf273d1c967965


Dash current supply - 5,882,880 (~1 year 9 months)

1,625,000 DASH was mined in first 8 hours

1,625,000 DASH / 5,822,880 = 0.27622525021758 OR 27.62% of supply


link: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#monero


More than 10 TIMES the amount of current supply (as a % comparison) was put into circulation in the first 8 hours than what was mined in the first 24 hours of litecoin's launch.

Hardly a comparable equivalent to use as an analogy. Laughable at best.

They are so scared of people finding out the truth that they keep deleting this from their wiki page,  "The instamine was ~500,000 in first hour, ~1,500,000 in first 8 hours. http://dashdot.io/alpha/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/image18.png (http://dashdot.io/alpha/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/image18.png)"

But no one cares about the instamine  ::)

I find it funny that if it is a "feature" as Evan likes to sell/spin it as, why not plaster "DASH is INSTAMINED" all over their thread and website/forum?

Them deleting that just says that some of them realize they dont want people to know about the instamine.

Evan should be wearing a shirt that says "Yes bitch, I instamined dash like a mofo and I am proud of it"

I have no opinions on DASH or their faults/mistakes and no opinions on XMR's potential faults or mistakes, but it is kind of sad to see another XMR supporter open the 22nd DASH hate thread while they also post frequently in DASH's own thread and being followed up by the well-known part of the XMR's community. DASH seems to be releasing features and being developed constantly, doesn't matter what your opinion is on their features or if they seem useful for you as an individual. I doubt that the aim of this is to dump on new investors, thus the hating has no efficiency other than to make your community and the whole forum/scene less appealing as an investment.

Everyone knows about the instamine already, eduff admitted to it in one of the threads not long ago if I recall correctly and there is rarely new money/inflow on this forum and scene (no new coins released, low volumes etc.) so there is literally no point in another new thread.

So exposing possible fraud is hate and inefficient and less appealing?

Sorry but if I used your thinking back when solidcoin was doing its "thing" of "developing" and "innovating" many people would have lost a lot of money.

Sorry, but I disagree with you.

Let's leave the absolute statements at the door that "everyone" knows about the instamine.

New users come to this forum everyday and thus your preposition is flawed as everyone will not know unless the entire planet knows.

Evan admitted the instamine was a "feature" and that he takes full responsibility but when I called him out on holding himself responsible he ignored it. Nowhere does dash have "instamine" advertised on their thread, forum, website.

It is swept under the rug and is a topic that is avoided daily as much as possible to make Dash appear to be legit.

As does this follow up:

Actually this is not another new thread, it is an old one. Looks like a Dash supporter bumped it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.msg12655784#msg12655784).

I have no idea why a Dash supporter though that was a good idea.

My bad, only seen it appear now for the first time and saw a low number of pages thus I thought it's new.

Point still stands though, you always see the same well-known XMR community members in these threads, same goes for spamming the DASH thread (I used to read it because I'm interested in the developments). No one else seems to care and that's probably not because they are stupid/dumb/didn't know, but because DASH seems to make progress. After a time it just gets sad to watch.

Just because the discussion appears to you as going in circles does not mean that it is for others or "everyone".

When I post, I try my best not to spam. If I repost something I do it in very specific occurrences where I believe it is relevant.

Spamming VS. discussing a specific topic with many different users is not one in the same.

This is largely the problem right here. You say you don't have an opinion on Dash's strengths/weaknesses. You say you don't have an opinion on XMR's strengths/weaknesses. You say that Dash seems to make progress.

Kind of a mixed bag of contradictory perspectives and uncertainties there.

This is the reason why people get annoyed with Dash. You can't wave the flag of ignorance and then exclaim that the world is conspiring against you hatefully.

True, the stigma of the Dash community being intellectually challenged is somewhat unfair, and I can sympathise that a lot of Dash holders are simply below their break-even point and thus have no choice but to try to defend their actions and that of the coin's technology. I get that.

I've also heard it said that Dash is kind of like North Korea in the sense that the technology is crap, the concept is deeply flawed, is socially something of a ghost town, waves a disingenuous flag in the name of revolution and progress, while the ignorant skeleton community panders to the self-serving egoistic appetite of thy great leader. Again while that may all be 100% true, it is obviously unfair to those who have demonstrably reached a point of stupidity that far extends beyond any acceptable point of justifiable humiliation.

In truth, and as has been stated many times before, it is always, always, always, the right thing to do to point out when something is very shit. And indeed, Dash is very very very shit.

If it wasn't shit, we'd all be waving the Dash flag together. Simple as that.

So the 'inventor' of X11 changed the position of one hash function in the chain?

I knew it was hyped but I had no idea it was so overly hyped.

ROFL thanks for the laugh.  ;)

Then why is someone deleting the numbers from the instamine from the dash wiki everyday--pretty certain that it isn't a Monero supporter deleting it. And why hasn't anyone put the instamine^tm logo next to the no premine^tm logo if Evan is so proud of his happy accident?

I'll give you a hint: no premine is to lure people who don't want to be scammed, or take part in a disingenuous launch, into a false sense of security. "No premine. That must mean it was fairly launched and doesn't suffer from the usual shenanigans of con artists posing as the next Steve Jobs. Right?" Think again, investor. And by the time you figure it out, you'll be neck deep in Evan's instamined coins.

Wow. And they say the Dash thread is a circle jerk ? When your own coin's going down the toilet it sure does wonders for camaraderie.

Don't stop chewing on that "instamine" bone. Need to keep those teeth sharp for when the meat course (https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-team-at-bitcoin-wednesday-amsterdam-presentation.6287/page-3#post-69787) arrives  ;)

https://i.imgur.com/V5xh2CG.png

Exactly my idea, selling point is "No Premine" yet won't put the instamine comment or tag anywhere visible.

But evan says "I take full responsibility for the instamine"....yet does nothing to back up his statement.

Empty words from a snake oil salesman. Not surprising.

I fully agree that something along the lines of "there was an accidental instamine in the first X hours with X coins because of an error in the code", but my point still stands, it's generally the XMR community bashing DASH in several (tons) of threads including DASH's own and some of the comments can be easily categorized as spam or insulting. Some of their ideas may be flawed and the codebase of Bitcoin imho isn't modern anymore after several years, but I doubt they do it to dump on newcomers, atleast it doesn't seem like it (for me).

Also as it seems one of the most frequent visitor of the DASH thread iCEBREAKER was involved heavily in the HashFast scam. I don't remember him being so open minded vs scams while he was working there.

PS. I don't own a single DASH and probably won't in the future.

That's fair. My main problem with dash is the false advertising. Masternodes are terrible for privacy and no one should be advertising a coin that uses them as anonymous or private. And the no premine when their is an undisputed instamine is misleading and playing fast and loose with semantics.

If those two points were that point was removed from the dash media, I wouldn't bother pissing on their parade of false information. I'm guessing I'm not alone in this mindset.

*Thanks to Smooth pointing out that dash media finally has removed "no premine" from its media. 

Where does it even say no premine any more? It was in the thread title in the past but it's been gone for a long time.

If you go back several months the title changed long ago...not sure when.

Oh well not important.

That depends on whether you base your criteria on the cash or credit model of modern money.

You're idea of "privacy" is characterised by the example on the right of the illustration in this commentary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12638377#msg12638377). Dash is implementing the one on the left for which masternodes are the perfect solution.

Did a quick check, the "No Premine" was removed 1.5 years ago - why do you consider it to be a "selling point" today?




https://i.imgur.com/n7ZJb0A.png

You shouldn't let facts get in the way of good trollin'.

Depends if you think depending on a human point of failure is a flawed security model or not. If you don't, then you deserve the privacy you get.

Too bad it was still there in specifications as of Sept 5 of this year (a month and half ago):

https://web.archive.org/web/20150905225343/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

No it doesn't actually. It depends on what I just posted earlier.

The problem you folks have isn’t Dash’s “instamine”. It’s this:

Back in the spring of last year, Dash (then Darkcoin) demonstrated that there was some mileage in improving on bitcoin’s anonymity support by doing something about fungibility.

That created a bit of a bandwagon and Cryptonote appeared. Only Cryptonote kind of threw the baby out with the bathwater by adopting the credit model of money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12638377#msg12638377) (which emobodys a private record keeping paradigm as opposed to an open, anonymous cash paradigm). Not only that, it paid a heavy price for adopting the “wrong” paradigm by completely ditching the bitcoin commercial interface and attempting to re-invent the cryptocurrency wheel from the ground up.

There might have been a case for doing that a couple of years ago when the “battle of the alts” commenced and there was some doubt as to whether bitcoin’s supremacy would be challenged. That case is now well and truly buried and with it the fortunes of ‘credit-money based privacy coins’ such as cryptonote.

Despite a year long campaign of plastering all known avenues on BCT with Monero propaganda, all it has done is loose value apart from the odd margin traded pump. Dash has also lost value but the difference is that it has a future because it did not make the fundamental mistakes in strategic monetary priorities that Monero did.

Dash DID adopt the anonymous cash model instead of the ‘private’ credit model. It DID keep itself compatible and compliant with the Bitcoin eco-system. And it DID establish a mechanism for sustaining the growth in payment processors (https://www.dashpay.io/payment-processors/), mobile solutions (https://i.imgur.com/776Cx82.jpg) and quality independent blockchain services (https://www.dashwhale.org). Because of that it's now in a healthy position to deploy one of the most ambitious roadmaps in the whole crypto sector.

So all that’s left for the types who start threads like this is to chew away at Dash’s launch issues in the hope that it might clear some space for coin who’s monetary shortfalls would hamper its adoption even if it was the only crypto left on the planet.

It’s an embarrassing sight.

Not least because of the damage you do to your own fellow holder’s prospects, most of whom probably represent a silent majority that would rather see something more than a year-late useable wallet, a bloat database and a hate campaign as the reward for their patience.

Dash's instamine is hella shady.

Why wasn't the "bug" that supposedly caused Dash's instamine caught on testnet?  Dash does have a testnet and is open source, right?

Why wasn't the coin relaunched after such a failed fiasco of a first 48 hours?

"Accidently" suddenly mining 10% of the total coins after telling everyone it's OK to go to sleep is too suspicious.

Advertising "No Premine" is a distinction without a difference and misleading snake oil salesmanship.

Technicalities aside, Dash's instamine was, for everyone not named Evan Scamfield, a premine.  We don't need him to come and 'Duff-splain' all about how Dash's instamine is actually a good thing.

Oops..look who's up here on stage parading in front of 2000 people with Andreas. One of iCEBREAKER's favourite 'scamcoins'.

I'm starting to think you're a double agent  ;)

https://i.imgur.com/C0ONi6x.png

Dash instamine isn't something to be proud of, but you know what's really shady Eduardo? Scamming tons of investors as the CEO of a scam company called HashFast.

You are a shame to the XMR community, atleast the rest of the XMR members can lead a polite conversation unlike you in several threads in this forum. Aren't you in any form related to Josh Garza?

Here' the problem that the instamine introduces and a relaunch would have solved:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game

For a genius visionary  ::) , Evan comes up lacking in the foresight department.

Really now Monero, get real 1.5 years with nothing new. After you copied Bytecoin "which is still above you on marketcap" all you did was changing lines on ur code.

Jealous much of Evan? he invented X11 and now many other coins have X11....he created Masternodes ohh look many others have Masternodes in their coins, I am not surprised the guy when he talks he delivers. AND THIS IS WHY I LOVE DASH

Now what makes you think I should leave all this and come to Monero? did Fluffy do something besides copying others? I don't follow sheep followers like him or Smooth.

We have a saying if ur house is made of glass don't throw ur neighbors with bricks YOU also had a problem at ur launch but guess what haters gonna hate!

You try so hard to trash Dash but again don't look up its waaaay above you, look down Rubycoin is alrdy catching up to you!

You're Cry"p"to about it here in forums type of developers are a joke and you're toxic community is worse, if you just kept ur self upgraded with new things into you're OWN coin and actually developed it instead of whining to Whitecoin/DASH/Shadowcash/Litecoin....Many more guess what ppl will come! I know I know it's not ur way.

Now tell me more about ur coin and how a gambling site "MoneroDice" is doing Fluffy takes 10% of all coins there awesome! hmm what else you have a GAME! wow my WHOLE family will be crazy about you now. This alone should take over like the entire HALF OF EARTH.

Stop this none sense I won't come over to you're coin unless you actually do some work and stop the hate and STOP being the HERO who wanna save ME in my ANN THREAD!

LoL !

No it isn't. Thats called desperation from Dash detractors who are rapidly running our of material.

We have an instamine, a clumsy method of privacy, a mash-up of algos that fails to recognize that the whole is only is only as strong as the weakest link, and a governance system that is centralized around the instaminers. I think that's a good running  list, but I'm sure Evan will borrow another bad idea and slap an x on it soon enough.

Check facts at least, scumbags  ;)

You shouldn't let facts get in the way of good trollin'.

There is no better fact than block 0 timestamp
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.msg12665512#msg12665512 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.msg12665512#msg12665512)

They seem not to use their brains.

Throw a bone and they're going "woof woof" without thinking...LOL
Not that I expect anything more.
No more bumps for this ridiculousness from me.

Although you've done your best to collect together a bunch of your favourite targets and amp their importance, none of them are fundamental long term problems and all of them pale next to the service level targets (https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-team-at-bitcoin-wednesday-amsterdam-presentation.6287/page-3) that Dash has established as objectives (both in terms of features and performance).

An 'elegant' method of privacy is useless if it's the wrong method of privacy. Since me & you already rehearsed these arguments (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1070914.msg11500384#msg11500384) plenty times I won't waste any more time on it here.

As far as systems of 'governance' is concerned, come back when you've actually got one to compare with ;)

Are you say Chaincoin dev is lying?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422149.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422149.0)
https://i.imgur.com/92AaAuZ.png
Chained cryptocoin Genesis block timestamps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.msg12665512#msg12665512 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.msg12665512#msg12665512)

Your thoughts on what makes good money are the start of your delusions, but lets add not having something being proof that what you have is quality or somehow my criticism is invalidated.

Example:

"Your rocket won't make it into space because the boosters weight too much, the nav system is faulty and the lead engineer stole integral parts and sold them on the black market. "

Response, "We have a rocket and you don't therefore ours will make it into space."

Who cares? It's a dumb idea anyway, and obviously a rip off of the earlier chained hashes that used a different number of functions. Is the first person to add another few hash functions on top of the 11 also a genius?

Clearly the creator of X13 is two smarter than Duffield, and the creator of X15 is another two points smarter than him.

When u create something then talk plz or else stop hatin, also we are not the reason why ur coin is down on the marketcap it's because of ur low grade developers + toxic community + copy cat losers + Rpietilla, Truecryptonaire playing buying/selling creating fake volume. Ohh ad when u quote me quote everything I know u have epic quoting copy/paste skills. lol


PS: CRY"P"TO here more plz

Wrong, there was no testnet for Xcoin in Jan 2014. Evan was working on this coin alone in his sparetime. Since when is being open source a synonym for "bug free software"?


Why should it? Is there a definition what fails a launch and what process has to be followed in the case of failure?


And who are you, calling Evan Duffield insulting names? What's your proposed mitigation to the instamine incident - right now? We can all talk about the past in hindsight.

Except I'm not supporting DASH and the instamine/old codebase. This should have been obvious from my comment. On the oder side though your main whisteblower and biggest shill is the biggest scammer on earth: iCEBREAKER aka Eduardo Decastro who whines in the DASH thread daily while scamming people. Sad enough, you guys support him and his actions.

Crying about an other coin won't make your shitclone better.

What a bizarre non sequitur. Why even mention "lost value" and "odd margin traded pumps", when you going to disregard the market and substitute your own conclusion instead, because it turns out that Dash has fared far worse in the market?

The blue lines are market cap:

https://i.imgur.com/UOZSwrk.png

https://i.imgur.com/HZoP6NX.png

That's all you can say? Sad really :)

I did not talk about the technology at all, i was asking for a proposal how to mitigate the instamine incident.

And why should someone admit something he did not do? Will you admit that you killed John Lennon?

We get it you invested everything you got on Monero when it was high and we have this on this forum before you deleted that post "Even though it was deleted we can still check it lol"
Then you invested on Dashcoin and it went crap....Ok WE GET IT you  hate Evan because he delivers and Smooth/Fluffy Don't bad choice by you we feel sorry I really do.

There is no way to know what happend until you are Evan - this applies to you and me. Judging on forum posts in hindsight and out of context is not a valid proof, for none of our or anyones theories.

And I did not speak for Evan - i just asked the question "why should someone admit to something he did not do" - in general.

Theoretically speaking:

Given that the instamine was a flaw/bug, Evan was totally overworked, glad he finally solved it by tweaking the code instead of relaunching it, mined a lot of coins, sold some, bought some - what should he do today?

To be convincing you should at least try to find some evidence before starting to accuse. Can you at least post some proof of what you are saying is true?

Where did I make a excuse for him? I've asked you to propose a mitigation, not to repeat your statements.

Once again: What mitigation plan would suit you?

It seems that the OP is very convinced that he has proof that Evan Duffield is a scammer.

If his proofs are that good he should sue him and the Darkcoin Foundation. All information necessary is on their website: https://www.darkcoinfoundation.org/about/team/

If his proofs are made up he should think about stopping his accusations.

IHMO writing your OP does not make your claims facts - you are not providing any proof.

Like I wrote: file your accusations as a lawsuit against Darkcoin Foundation if you were scammed. Otherwise your actions are just a form of cyberharassment which is illegal in many countries.

The XCOIN block 0 timestamp is from the relaunched blockchain. The first public launch was before ChainCoin's block 0.

But then again, facts shouldn't get in the way of good trollin' so please carry on.

Just because I "know" someone is a scammer does not mean I get to sue him.

I didnt lose anything with Mark K and the EMPTYGOX fiasco but he is a scammer and I have no right to sue him given I lost nothing.

Or Darkcoin Foundation should sue AdamWhite. A good start for the damages his defamation and accusations without proof have caused could be easily calculated - the difference in market cap before AdamWhite had started his defamation mission and now.

Of all the hundreds of bluff allegations and litigation threats that float around these forums, thats the one realistic one.

This is the stupidest thing I've read all day.

Why? Are you AdamWhite?

LOL they are reaching now....

now that would be a stretch...sue for the difference in market cap lol.

Does that imply that the suing party owns all dash in existence that was sold in the recent past (causing the decline in market cap)?

lol

To be honest, I don't even know who AdamWhite is. But the idea you could go to a judge and try to claim a market cap difference is just laughable, irrespective of the circumstances. It's not worth even responding in detail.

No, but as I said, it would be a start. And the Foundation would represent all the stake holders, so it's not unreasonable.

And it's not always about winning a case straight up, sometimes it's about dragging it long enough to bankrupt the other party.

Ah I see. So it's not about winning the argument, it's about bankrupting the competition.

Classy. How very Dash.

Yup. Almost as classy as AdamWhite's defamation campaign. How very Monero.  ::)

Good luck getting everyone who sold dash to be on that side. If Adam then sold 1 dash wouldn't he be on the plaintiff's side?

lol

Look, I don't have to have all the details and answers for you. That's the job for the army of attorneys both parties would have to hire anyway (if they can afford it that is). Pointless to debate the details here. And I'm not really saying they should actually do it. Simply entertaining the thought of it. Crazier things have happened.

If we are playing arm chair litigator, how about a class action suit for misleading investors with the claims of "no premine" and the false promises of the infamous "masternode ROI" info graphic? But I'm sure Evan's lawyers already told him to lose those and the weak explanations that followed in regard to the instamine being "a great accident" are Evan's desperate attempt to steer the ship away from the rocks.

Do you know how I know Dash isn't quite done yet? The rats haven't left yet.

But when they figure it out, and enough of their ill gotten gains are safe on other shores, then we'll see the dash ship where it belongs--at the bottom of the scammy seas.

lol

rekt

illodim's status as the 2nd kind of DashHole mentioned earlier is confirmed.


That's right illodim, tell the judge all about your 'lost market cap' because 'trolls.'

The AltCoin Police are on the way!

At the end fluffy or smooth or the rest of the 30 monero developers could not do 5% of what Evan did lol.

All I c is monero crying to dash why u so good on market cap and why we r so low....because of ur low grade developer duhhh. Ohh and ur toxic hateful community trying to market ur crap coin on DASH or trying so badly harming any coin that is not monero or boolbery.

Did I tell you stop looking up and look down ruby coin is cathing up to u? LOOOOL

Anyway back to dash innovation sorry I'm busy reading all these new and awesome things we have let me know when u have ur own GUI wallet I would recommend that Fluffy pony hires a true developer with all that monero he gets from taking 10% from monero dice gambling site. LOOOOOOOL

Thank you for bumping the thread.  Your poutrage is invaluable to our efforts to show the world what DashHoles are like.

Well, one of those less-than-Evan devs just wrote a paper on how to incorporate confidential transactions into Monero.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/

So sorry if adding x and dark to everything doesn't impress me. So far we have, a bad x-11 mash-up that is only as strong as the weakest link and a human dependent privacy system that's weak because it depends on humans to follow ospec--which they rarely do--neither of which, if he did invent them, is worth bragging about.

TLDR: If you are going to incorporate or invent anything, make sure it's worth the time and actually does something of quality. Dash is a poor man's Bitcoin and a dumb man's Monero.

Except that it was already established that XCOIN public launch was before ChainCoin's.

But don't let facts get in the way of good trollin'.

You are again conveniently leaving out the context, which was that if you really are looking for a resolution to the issues you are driving, you should sue. Crying about it in the forums isn't doing much for you. To which I replied that or they should sue you. Either way, a resolution could be achieved. Whether you or them take up on it and what the details would be isn't up to me. Only fun to speculate on.

And I thought we already established it wouldn't be possible to crowdfund enough tissues for your issues. You imagining of murders should indicate you're in a serious need of a head doctor, "bro".

I'm not telling the judge anything. It's up to the army of attorneys to do that if AdamWhite or Darkcoin Foundation / some defamed individuals decide to look for a resolution. The resolution could be that one of the parties gets bankrupted in the process. But how else would you begin to calculate the damages if you don't mind me asking? I don't think the market cap cares about trolls at all, it has more to do with BTC price falling against which it is valued. Claiming otherwise is just yet another strawman of yours and totally irrelevant. People can go to court claiming the maximum, whether that is realistic in your opinion or not, and what the settlement eventually will be can be something else.



And I thought you were the Police around here. Totally trying to bust everything that threatens your personal investments.

Did Dash create more coins out of thin air?  :o :o :o :o

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7z840EcKjGNr7jZTwHL1u5HDTGNqHeeCszrR0Iy1J8/edit?pli=1 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7z840EcKjGNr7jZTwHL1u5HDTGNqHeeCszrR0Iy1J8/edit?pli=1)

Did duff wanted to hide his shady dealings??

https://i.imgur.com/QRffQA6.png?1

No. If it did, it would've been a hard fork and miners and users would've had to choose which fork to support. And by the looks of it, not many would've supported the new fork.



Depends on what you mean by shady. Given the agenda you're driving you probably imply a scam, which it isn't and wasn't.

You wouldn't want such a merge plan to leak because scammers would game the markets before the valuation date of the coins that determine the percentage each holder will get the new coin.

A coin that has 10% of the marketcap of the other (can't remember what the exact percentages were back then but around that number I presume) can easily be pumped by 100% or 200% to get unfair gains that don't reflect true market value.

Looks like illodin aka illospin is on scam defence duty today


Of course DASH is a scam run by scammers. What else would you call an intentional scam instamine then lying about it being a bug? Some more proof of fraud below. My personal favorite is the sham vote, now that's classy. But the hyping of exchange buys while selling OTC is also an instant classic


Daesh Developers setting up sham votes ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256392.msg13120093#msg13120093 )


Daesh Developers hyping the coin by announcing publicly they're buying on exchanges while actively selling OTC? ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220204.0 )

Well if you don't like FUD being refuted by simply posting facts it's not my problem.

Facts are fine. My statement was in response to this:


Anyone denying Dash is a scam at this point is either

- blind
- stupid
- has an agenda of their own
- all of the above

Look at this crap:

Ok so if it is so clear to you please explain how would merging 2 coins be a scam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc0etVcjjuI&t=4m00s


Evan: "Dash started as a hobby".

BULLSHIT...

This guy was looking for c++ developers for a FOR-PROFIT startup.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2013-December/003964.html


Here is what he said VERBATIM on Dec 29th, 2013

Storm in the sandbox again :). There are only two important questions about any coin:
Can we trade it?
Can we make profit on it (preferably in BTC)?
If the answer is "yes" for both questions nobody will care about the rest.

BTW trolling each other not going to improve the reputation of any of the participants. Actually in this community Monero is noted much more because of it's aggressive fanclub than because of its features. Perhaps this isn't the best marketing strategy.

oh boy...

seems the pre/instamine money is good fore some things:

https://i.imgur.com/KSgtWRo.png?1

Posting facts is not trolling.

Indeed, but posting the same facts over and over again can be counter-productive, and legitimate contribution can turn to trolling if some groups doing it constantly and vocally enough.

If the goal is to warn newbies to do their research because more crap is uncovered each week, that is not being repetitive.

For you, if it is hard to deal with, just put the user in question on ignore and go about your business if it bothers you that much.

Some facts are reposted because they are not being addressed directly by Evan when questioned about it.

DashHoles are very angry Monero is going up and getting attention from Bitcoin whales like melbustus and Roger Ver.

Hilarity ensues as they attack only to get slapped down...   :)

http://dash-wallet.com

this is the scam. fake wallet still on google search results.

the word dash in the context of crypto = scam.

I just bought into DarkNet.

It is a good community. Good development team. Very similar to DASH, but fair distribution.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

yes, we know... sad but true, some people try to impersonate DASH to cheat people.

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=31326247

best,

I just tried logging in and my account and DASH is gone.

Says it doesn't exist.

On another note, I used to collect dash through faucetbox. Never received the payment.

Thankfully most my DASH came from dashad.io when it was still around.

@SatoshiLite dislikes DASH too:

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/825124456897007616

He does not support its governance ranking both Decred and Monero higher:

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/825138178591821825

I heard this coin is major instamined by the team, for their development fund and similar reserve to company shares, sometimes is legal, IMO dash is not scam, they are doing business with that fund, not dump on traders. They are legit projects.

Dash corporation is the similar to Paypal corporation , it's noting more than a for profit company.

https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae#.7jubjh3s2

feel like a tool bag yet? maybe i should buy u a super dildo, dumb ass!

To the contrary, I've never been more proud of the work I've done to help make the crypto-community aware of Dash's scumbag Instamine.

Here is the glorious result of my (among many others') efforts.

https://i.imgur.com/NX5yUNQ.png (https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/836569423603453953)

Pump all you want.  Dash has no fundamentals; nobody uses it for anything except a HYIP.

Don't try to use the current pump as evidence Dash isn't a scam.  That not how it works; PayCoin pumped in its day too.

As Homero wrote in his essay Evan’s and Dash’s scam story (https://medium.com/@omiros23/evans-and-dash-s-scam-story-add1f16528ae)

How is that different than fluffypony running a Gambling web site that was hacked ?
Who was also paid by a millionaire who admitted to buying half a million dollars worth of Monero way back ? (in today's money)

Got yer fucking Monero blinders on ?  :D

more diversion and dash protecting here from a guy that once called dash an ULTRA SCAM COIN.

perhaps not only amanda is on the payroll.

Been saying that for awhile. He falls in love with one scam ??? --not likely. Spoetnik has sellout written all over him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236914.0

looks very bad indeed for him

he goes from calling it an ultra scam in 2014

now he refuses to call it a scam and is pumping and protecting it in every thread.

hes a dash cheerleader now?

what other explanation can there be? ive asked him to explain now in his other thread ....i'll see what he says...

Hmm I don't think they are actually hiding the fact that they were a coin once used in the deep web and I don't it is actually a scam coin now as the recent increase is attracting more investors , plus it has the 3rd largest market cap. I'm just hoping that what you are saying is not true otherwise this will be a disaster and probably the biggest scam.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so shine on ;)

So far we've learned that Amanda is a koolaid guzzling pitch machine, Spoetnik is a sellout and Ver can't research worth shit.

What part of Monero's protocol doesn't transfer tokens to anyone except if they burn electricity do you not comprehend?

If you can't understand the relevance of that distinction to decentralization, then you are not qualified to tell anyone about crypto.

tl;dr is @Spoetnik is more concerned with ego than facts.

He seems to be entirely oblivious to the egregious distinction of decentralization between the two coins he is writing about.

So he is an example of exactly what he complains about: the ignorance of speculators.

DEAD on.

When Dash launched it was Xcoin not DarkCoin. It was then renamed DarkCoin then Dash.  Each name change was done to create hype and make it more difficult to find out about the origins of the coin.  How do I know ?  I tried to mine Xcoin on day 1 and I've seen the scam progress and grow to where it is today.  Their entire statement is false... In the first hours there was a network glitch that DID NOT allow other miners to connect and start mining until about 16-20hours after the launch.  All this information is available in the forums but difficult to track down because of the many name changes and the moving of community forums.  The insta mine served to create a majority of master nodes which now generate interest making it mathematically impossible for any new user to compete with the ever gaining interest of the master nodes.  You have read the statement from the DASH team talking about healthy distributions, organic growth, large holders buying from exchanges and Evan being a nice guy isn't Objective.

Best of luck everyone.

Yea who would have known.

i remember i quit mining after 12 hours of trying , should know better scam or no scam

Thanks for share this information, then how could Dash coin increases so fast within days?
When Dash start to rise, many people mentioned how dash was a scam and still. We will see how it will going in few days later or week, if dash could survive or crash.

Many users take difficulty with a few aspects of Dash, starting with the launch. The launch was done incompetently at best and maliciously at worst. Despite Evan saying he would "definitely not" launch the coin the same day, he later launched it a few hours later. Then, there was a "bug" in the code that caused massive coin generation over a short period. When this was pointed out, instead of relaunching the coin, they lowered the future generation and continued.
This is sketchy for multiple reasons. Promising not to launch put other users' guards down, which definitely lowered the number of miners who could take advantage of the block reward in the first few hours. This clearly benefitted those who could have known about this different release "bug", including all the miners and Evan.
To add to the craziness, a while later the block reward structure was changed to support those who already had a large number of coins. The reward to miners was reduced to 45%, the amount to masternodes was set to 45%, and a new community fund was set to 10%. The allocation of the community funds is determined by the masternodes.
This decision ensures that those who hold Dash will continue to get rich from the block reward. Furthermore, they have exclusive voting on where the community fund is allocated, which can be used to sponsor specific items of interest. For instance, it is used to fund the developers. Many people worry that those who benefited from the faulty launch continue to benefit from controlling a large number of masternodes.
People from the Dash community have a few objections to these above statements. They say that coins were pretty cheap shortly after launch, meaning someone is unlikely to be hoarding all the coins. They say that Evan is not running a ponzi because he continues to develop for the project.
Having cheap coins shortly after launch means that someone isn't holding all the coins, that's for sure. But if this whole series of events was orchestrated by a person or a handful of people, they could have held these coins and still have gotten rich. Others who did not know the future plans could be the ones selling for cheap. There is no way of really knowing.
Evan continues to contribute to Dash. Even if he continues to, it doesn't matter if he coordinated the faulty launch. Working for the project doesn't make up for deceiving the community.
Now, there is no hard proof of Evan doing any of this on purpose. It's possible he was just too stupid to notice the faulty coin supply and too lazy to relaunch.

BTU Bitcoin unlimited group is behind the dash pump, they want to fork Bitcoin and push people to Bitcoin unlimited fork to fully control Bitcoin...They used Dash as a trap.....otherwise Dash never could go 10X .... Anyway....the interesting point is Evan Duffield maybe the richest Dash owner and other Dash team members can go to jail because of competing with USD. Just think about it.... Because they are US citizens.... Anyway Dash will fail at the end....
Want to know more about it? watch this video... https://youtu.be/X7kQPS5NL-s?t=44m35s (https://youtu.be/X7kQPS5NL-s?t=44m35s)

Who cares about DASH or the other anon coins

Time is not on their side for sure

Many don’t care as long as they can earn some money while trading that is  why not many people care about the nature of crypto currencies as long as they earn.

i heard bad things about dash founder on ethereum classic podcast i forgot the name of that guy who invested so much to support dash

are you here? please join tezos...

here's why

https://s1.postimg.org/cs7fif31b/why-tezos.jpg

At the beginning, Xcoin was nothing than other shitcoin. And for several weeks was distributed because price was really low, as u can see here:

https://i.imgur.com/76djcwb.jpg


Dash Scam is still ongoing...

It's funny QTUM got no positive in that image yet they were able to collect millions of fund from investors.

Dash being a scam or not, the price is really great for early adopters of this project.  Who would of thought Dash prices would rise to over a hundred dollars each. 

Bernie Madoff and others were once very successful scam artists as well

yes evan intentionally launched the coin with a "bug" to get rid of every early miner
yes evan instamint
yes evan misled people....
yes evan withheld information...
yes evan had a gpu miner long before anyone else
yes evan is a fraudster
yes evan lied, ASIC Resistant,.... the max coin amount is 84,000,000......
yes evan was an active buyer not seller to "redistribution" coins

https://i.imgur.com/Fj9R8cg.png
yes evan know very well having more coins will generate more coins with the aid of useless Masternodes no Whitepaper available so no one else know
.....

https://i.imgur.com/FjJ2YHk.png

911 coin
Creation date 2014-01-19 

Yeah, DASH is a big bubble. Many people will be hurt when it bursts.

2+ million Darkcoin / DASH were instant mined in the first 48 hours 30 hours of launch. (1.5 million in the first 8 hours) Dev tries to make everyone believe it was an accident.

such scam... well done...

Dash Instamine Issue Clarification

Due to a number of questions about the so called Dash "instamine issue", the purpose of this document is to provide an official statement from the Dash team about this matter. Our intention is to provide Dash investors and users with information to help them understand the currency history and technical issues at the beginning of the project and draw their own conclusions on the impact.

Facts about the instamine

1- There was no pre-mine in Dash
2- ~1.86MM first 24h, ~2.02MM first 48h according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#@inflation
3- That represents approximately 10-15% of the total money supply that will ever be issued
4- This coin issue rate exceeded the published emission schedule by a wide margin

more details here: https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

well, i've already traded all my Bitcoins and ETH for DASH Digital Cash. Ether has infinite coin supply, I do not trust an inflationary cryptocurrency. The Bitcoin network is very slow, many transactions are delayed. On the other hand, the DASH network is the most efficient. yes, the network of masternodes is a great idea

What is Dash?
https://youtu.be/S0oNO3mbBE8

Hard 'n' Fast vs. Deliberate 'n' Slow: How to Reach 'Cryptocurrency 3.0'? | DASH Detailed:
https://youtu.be/C8ye_osAHtE

Masternode Setup, Buying Shares, and 'Interest-Bearing Accounts' of the Future | DASH Detailed:
https://youtu.be/4GRrLiTCq5M

cheers

Advice: the best wallet is the Dash Core v0.12.1.5

Warning: trust only in the dash.org website. DASH [DOT] ORG

Dash Evolution has been designed as a scalable and user-friendly currency platform for mass adoption. Evan Duffield and Andy Freer of Dash Labs and Dash Core CTO, respectively have developed a roadmap for reaching this goal, and have provided a summary of this roadmap on Dash.org.

More details here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dash-reveals-roadmap-mass-adoption/

Interview with Evan Duffield on Evolution's Roadmap: https://youtu.be/E65QixSRosw

cheers

Total Bullshit.
The 2 Million Instamined plus the Easymined plus the Ninjamine plus the earl bulk buys are now used with the aid of Masternodes to get 55% (45% + 10% same entity, miners only get minority 45% share) of every new coin mined.

So the true Instamine now is somewhere in the 60% mark and rising all the time.

If he did not want the instamine he could have relaunched a second time a few hours later.
You are just a s... scam supporter, get the f... out of here.

PoS, you are a deplorable slanderer!!!!!!!

The Dash Digital Cash does not need a SegWit, a true cryptocurrency does not need a SegWit!

Bitcoin, Forks, SegWit, DASH, Litecoin & What's Exciting in Crypto - Adam Meister

YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/yBBgQ3IwYqo

  ;)

Do you mean that a true crypto is already designed since the beginning and nothing to be touched soon and later? That would be cool.

Mr. Invester, the DASH Digital Cash is the 1st true DAO in cryptocurrency, a decentralized self-funding & self-governing protocol allowing the perfect feedback loop to grow.

and more, the Dash Evolution has been designed as a scalable and user-friendly currency platform for mass adoption. Evan Duffield and Andy Freer of Dash Labs and Dash Core CTO, respectively have developed a roadmap for reaching this goal, and have provided a summary of this roadmap on Dash.org.
More details here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dash-reveals-roadmap-mass-adoption/

Advice: the best wallet is the Dash Core v0.12.1.5

Warning: trust only in the dash.org website. DASH [DOT] ORG

Dash Officially Approved by Apple, Releases InstantSend-Enabled iPhone Wallet

Dash has released an official wallet for the iPhone as Apple has finally approved the currency officially.

Earlier today, Dash Core CEO Ryan Taylor tweeted out a teaser, hinting at big news arriving soon: Big news to share today. https://twitter.com/RTaylor05

Soon after this, the Dash wallet for iPhone was released, and is now available for download. iPhone users can now download a proprietary Dash wallet, and take advantage of its InstantSend functionality.

read more here:
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-officially-approved-apple-releases-instantsend-enabled-iphone-wallet/

cheers  ;D

DASH is not a SCAM!!!

BREAKING NEWS - Charlie Shrem answers 14 questions about NEW DASH Pay Card! YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/ui0gaDXKyt0

Charlie Shrem DASH Pay Card Question TimeStamps:

0:43 Why the lack of updates?
3:41 When will the card be available? do you have a date?
5:46 How is your card different to payza's? How do they compare?
7:27 How much will the physical card cost?
10:13 What are the fees? (Annual fee/ATM fee/Foreign Exchange Fee)
11:35 What are the spending and withdrawal limits?
14:03 Do you plan on implementing InstantSend functionality?
17:00 Which countries will the card be available on launch on in the future?
22:07 What is the website URL & when will it be up & running?
23:25 Can you buy and sell Dash on platform as well?
25:31 Why should people use your card and not the competition?
27:51 What are your plans to promote & market the Dash Pay Card?
30:16 Charlie, why Dash? Whats so special about Dash?
33:18 Can you tell me more about the Free card giveaway?

Charlie's Dash Pay Card Proposal - https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DASHPAYCARD-DEBIT-CARD

Dash London Conference - https://www.dashcentral.org/p/conf-dash-201708
 ;)

hey guys!! the average Bitcoin transaction fee ($10.17) is now more than twice the cost of Bitcoin itself ($5) in 2011. Nostalgia and inertia-fueled masochism: Using Bitcoin instead of DASH Digital Cash in 2017. Come on dudes, sub-penny transactions are fun!

great videos:
Dash sponsored Circus City in Bristol UK with Ed Rapley
https://youtu.be/_waMm5qmq9g

Dash Force News 3 Amigos Podcast E24 with Alex Werner from Dash Core: https://youtu.be/KP32FtnD1Q0

cheers

The Great American Pilgrimage with Stephen Baldwin & Max Keiser (PROMO)

via YouTube: https://youtu.be/CVPqjKfEgGg

High transaction fees always get fixed. It dropped soon after the $10 peak.

^^^Published on Aug 4, 2017

Passing off old news as "breaking" new news is typical Dash scam tactics.  Dash relies on greedy-low information and noob-type people being too stupid to fact-check its snake oil claims.

Current Dash Debit Fiasco status:

-- NO new updates
-- NO card exists
-- NO explanation for Shrem's total silence over the last 3 months
-- NO accountability for where the money went
-- NO push back from submissive DashHoles who apparently like being bent over and used by scammers so much that they vote to pay for the privilege

i sense a lot of unhappiness in this thread  :-\

Here is a little tune for those with unhappy feelings towards Dash right now : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

Nobody cares about what you "sense."  Keep it to yourself and if you can't discuss "DASH - The biggest ongoing SCAM in crypto" then SHUT THE FUCK UP.  :-*

Let's stay on topic instead of sharing irrelevant personal feelings about and reactions to what others have posted.

It's almost as if you are trying to change the topic away from the Dash scam by bringing meaningless subjective gossip into the discussion as a replacement for substantive discourse. :D

Let me be clear: unsolicited naked speculation about the moods of other posters is NOT ON TOPIC and may be reported to the mods.

Do you have anything to say about Dash's Instamine or Shrem Debit Card Fiasco?  Or are you just here to passive-aggressively castigate and attack those that do?

Oh dear, even the original creator of this thread (AdamWhite) was feeling unhappy at the end... but not specifically about Dash it seems.

https://i.imgur.com/MAH71iV.jpg

Well, if AdamWhite can move on lets hope other (less secure feeling) people can move on too.

I wonder where the OP is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.

Well for me it is not true, that the darkcoin aka dash is the biggest ongoing scam in crypto, darkcoin is one of the best altcoins and the prce of it is good and doing well, and this is not scam because if it scam dash or is we will be trust by many users of altcoins.

I wonder where Dash miners' profitability (https://medium.com/@aquilesgomez/highlighting-mining-difficulty-scalability-issues-with-x11-algorithm-on-the-dash-network-f48533a5e6fe) is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.

I wonder where Evan's Instamine is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.


I wonder where DashDrive is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.

I wonder where Minotaur, Dash's (ex?) head of Biz Dev is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.


I wonder where Evolution is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.


I wonder where DIP >001 are hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.



I wonder where Shrem's Dash debit card is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.


I wonder where Dash's Lamassu ATM is hiding now.. Thats embarrassing.