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Hello I have offered to give big Vern the identity of the person that committed the theft against cryptsy and help them be put to justice but he is not responding to me. I offered my services and to divulge this information for a bounty of %30 of the stolen funds I also said I am willing to negotiate a bit to make things easier.

Here is my twitter were I have tweeted at Big Vern multiple times https://twitter.com/cryptcracker1/with_replies

I am asking for a contract to ensure I am paid the bounty, if anyone is able to reach Big Vern please tell him to get in contact with me asap.

/me gets the popcorn

Sign in with your Vlad account and say that. :P

It'd be pretty cool if this was actually legitimate so that the bastard gets what he deserves. Vern hasn't said anything on Twitter in a while, he might be away.

Or maybe he's running away and starting a new life somewhere ::)

Somehow i doubt crptsy was hacked and this could be a theft

@OP
How can you be sure that crptsy was hacked and where did you get the proof of it ?
Social engineering ?

Well, this is great way at least to prove that Big Vern s been honest about the hack. If he doesn't at least reply to this initiative, well, then it s obvious everything s been a BS.

Hacker's identity: Big Vern and some ghost employees

if you give him your mirror, he will not see you but himself :P

I already told him some slick cat by the name of BigVern took the coins. I still haven't received my 1000 BTC. Good luck!

I'm curious about the results. I tend to believe that it was an internal job but probably not Big Vern himself, as that would be just stupid. There was a lot more potential in Cryptsy as a working exchange than 10k BTC and 300k LTC. Perhaps I'm naive, but grabbing the bag and running looks like to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs, and roast it for dinner.

Exactly. Anyone could come up a lame story like that to save himself.
 i wonder if any of his team will spill a bit of info once one didn't get a fair share.

You want a bounty to stand up for a good cause?Guess what? You're wasting time here.

Some of the wallets are back online with most being on a maintenance mode so it's probable that they got some funds. Just not sure where it came from or were they able to retrieve their btcs.

From Cryptsy blog:

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The following wallets have been opened for withdrawals:

007
42Coin
Acoin
Aegis
Aiden
AlienCoin
AlphaCoin
AmricanCoin
AppleBytes
Agentum
AsiaCoin
AsicCoin
Axron
BancorCoin
BatCoin
BattleCoin
BBQCoin
BetaCoin
BitBay
BitGem
Bitshares
Bitstake
BlackCoin
BoostCoin
BottleCaps
Bytecent
ByteCoin
CacheCoin
CAIx
CashCoin
CheckCoin
CinderCoin
CinniCoin
Clams
CoinMagi
ContinuumCoin
CosmoCoin
CounterParty
CrackCoin
CraftCoin
DamaCoin
DevCoin
Diamond
Doubloons
Ducknote
e-Gulden
ElephantCoin
Ether
Expanse
EZCoin

We will be opening more wallets over the next couple days.
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did you try to open a support ticket? its a minor chance but if you really have the ability to get the bounty, then you should not give up to contact him, try the post way to, write to his office.

greetings

Well at least some users can still withdraw their alts to a different exchange with that wallets been opened up ;)
For you guys who still have their money stuck to Crptsy i think this is your chance to get it all out for good cause god knows when it's gonna be opened again :P
Yobit accepts most of these altcoins right ?

What office ?
Their HQ was deserted already
they claimed they decided to do work from home to save money :P

well i didn't know they work from home, i just brainstormed my ideas. Do you have any ideas how to contact him?

Very nice, so they re gonna empty their cold wallets. This is at least something.

Yeah, this is very suspect...declaring insolvency and preferring some customers (those with alts) over other customers (those with BTC). This is also quite illegal. Does he need a powershovel to dig himself a bigger hole with the authorities?

How is this illegal?

It is illegal for bankrupt/insolvent companies to prefer creditors of the same rank (ie in this case unsecured creditors) over other creditors of the same rank. Otherwise they could pay out friends, close business partners first and leave people who should have the same rights to reimbursement with nothing.

but a court payout would be in USD, right?

i prefer my coins i paid for not USD. The loss/values should spread in coins to avoid more loss than needed.

If it does come to a distributed payout I pity the person who has to work out who gets what & at what rate. If you count all the wallets in maintenance (which complicates things even further because how do you determine a fair price?) there must be something like 60 or so coins to balance out. At least Gox was only BTC and a handful of fiat currencies.

I'm just wondering what they will do with some dead coins what they still traded but there are no nodes, no miners, no network in the outside world :)?

the court had to start nodes + fix the source codes. They will do it to serve justice like they always do ;D

That's great news.

I got 1 quite large amount of one of them.
Hope it will go through.

I've got 99 alts but a Vlad aint one (hit me)

Exactly. Vern is most likely not the thief. I think it's like Vern said, it's probably lucky 7 dev or someone who hacked Lucky 7. Or else inside job by an employee. Not Vern, tho. In my opinion. Karpeles was different because it was half a billion. The coins were worth more than the company. Here the comany was worth more than the coins so why steal the coins.

Maybe send you a paper wallet in an envelope with a stamp on it?

You've put on some weight...
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Do you prefer Roberto or Paul ?
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https://twitter.com/1337pose
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dude, we are not creditors as we just deposit our altcoins and not selling them to Cryptsy LTD, so we are sharesholders on each type of cryptocurrency, claiming that my shares need to be sold(on which price, probaly on 1 satoshi each first million and rest for free?) in order to cover your stolen type of shares is mass theft, and that is illegal! Cryptsy LTD was a private vault with just one lock box on same type of "shares"

This just in !!

re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

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FUCK YOUR BOUNTY. :P

Right now I am just happy to get most of my valuable coins out.
Only got 1 Dash + LTC there. I do hope for a solution, but luckily their hit, did not hit me that hard.

You asswipe.  :P

All coins reclaimed from improper withdrawals (every single one in the last 18 months) will be dumped for fiat, then the fiat will be given to the lawyers.  That's how it works in a bankruptcy.

Sorry, but you will have to rebuy all the coins you lost.

Is someone stupid enough to get conned by Garza and then try to pump paycoin way after the shit hit the fan smart enough to steal all this money from Cryptsy?

Why on earth would someone that pocketed that much cash in the Summer of 04 continue to fuck around with all those alts and pump and dumps?

Talk to the law firm that's suing Cryptsy. They might make you an better offer.

All exchanges are turning up being worthless nowadays.
I had trusted Cryptsy when they were at the peak time of their business.
But this is really ridiculous to know that a CEO can run off after getting hold of 'some' bitcoins.  :-\

Oh nice! of you had you money in a select coin you get your coin back But if your coin was not on the list, well they just decided that you could foot the bill for their incompetence.

Truly an inside job and I am surprised the feds have not picked these guys up.
I cant even think of how many laws have been broken in this cover up.

These guys are sure to flame soon.

From what I've heard more coins will follow. I got not reason to doubt that.
But let's face it. The big amounts will vanish eventually.

At least they gave back the altcoins. Which are always worth quite a lot money.

But yes, someone or something should bring them to justice.

You can't just shut down an exchange then choose to disperse the remaining assets to a few customers.

In addition to that, since they knew of the theft and did not report it. Instead trying to do it cowboy fashion and fix it themselves.

They say they contacted the FBI with no response. I just have one question here.

Do you believe that?

Heads will roll.

They are also not letting customers get out US dollars.  I have some money there in US dollars that I tried to get out earlier this month but they would not send me the money.  They still won't let me withdraw it.

It seems to me that the owner could be in trouble for running a Ponzi scheme for the last year and a half.  That is illegal and he was using deposits to cover withdrawals for a long time and not disclosing the problems.  My deposits we being used to pay other customers.

The standard response to a multi-million dollar theft is to wait a year and a half and then make 1 phone call and fill out one form on the internet, what do you expect them to do?

Is Cryptsy running as a busines in the US? Does US law allow a business run while it is insolvency?

No, don't misunderstand. They only released a few alt coins, not all of them.

They pick and choose who is getting paid. And when!  So if the market falls and you ever get your coin back it is worth...less :P

It's better than doing nothing, for sure. Though I agree, most that withdraw these are going to dump them now, as many people only used Cryptsy for trading.

"Yeah we tried calling the FBI but they're never home!" 

What a bunch of tweaking wankers.  Yeah they're an American company and you can stay up and running while in bankruptcy as far as I know.  Not that they listen to the law anyway.

the Guy must be like this: https://youtu.be/8aRor905cCw

No word from OP yet. I'm beginning to think this was just some kid trying to get attention on the internet.

You don't say
It's obvious OP is just seeking attention in hope to get himself popular by "finding" the hacker of Crptsy
Crptsy wasn't hacked at all, they are just running away from their responsibility with money in their pockets :P

? I haven't said anything more because Vern never responded to my first bounty request. Once he replies I will make an update.

What if he never responds? Do you have a deadline in mind to tell us all what you know if he doesn't respond?

Yes and maybe you can also contact them with their ticket system and post a printscreen here. This way they can't say they didn't got your message.
If they are serious about making it right, they would take this chance.

How did you try to make contact with him, and are you sure your message has got through to him? In November BitJohn said Vern's probably in China, though he wasn't certain, which suggests BitJohn wasn't in contact with him. If he's hiding in China and Cryptsy staff can't contact him then your messages probably haven't got through to him, or he's ignoring them.

I think you could drop all of the info you have here in a post here on bitcointalk along with a bitcoin address signature or PGP signature.

Then if your information is worthy and infact does lead to Cryptsy getting the BTC back you could prove that you were the first to come forward with this information by the timestamp and prove it was you by signing your BTC address or PGP key to claim the bounty.
You could also archive the post to secure it further.. https://archive.is/

BTW I think that there is a better chance of someone here breaking this case, such as bruno, before vern anyway if he is even trying.

Could you atleast tell us if you have conclusive intel that proves that Vern is not one in the same as the "hacker", or some cryptsy insider the "hacker", or if infact this was done by some outsider "hacker"?

This is my fear as well. Look how many reputable news sources have found who Satoshi is. Oh, and how many Satoshis there really are. I'd hate for some innocent party to get nailed.

sound interesting,how much your funds?i think 30% is high amount if your funds really big :) but i am not sure people here can help you to take back your funds,crptsy is being freak,and also the owner -_-

They released coin with name starting A to E. That does not include Bitcoin. Cryptsy still holds most of the customer coins.

Still what they are saying is they still have a little coin left.
Part of it is yours but they are going to distribute what is left to whom they choose.

What I want to know is, where are the fed's?

What did they say when you tried to report that you were robbed?

Why do people expect the feds to just know what's going on in every corner of the internet?

Because they built a huge mega multi million dollar facility to funnel every bit and byte through the US of A to do exactly that...

They got resources but not by far to control everybody. This is why there are plenty of criminals out in the open.
I did expect however they would find the hacker who stole so much money.

And where does something like this fall on their list of priorities?

another possibility in the world of cryptos. nuff said.

Not sure where it falls under their priorities.

If I deposit $10,000 cash in my checking account, they want to know right now where I got it!

Thing is, there is a class action lawsuit. What I don't understand is how under a class action lawsuit these guys are able to distribute part of the assets to select alt coin holders.

Plus the fact that something like this isn't exactly new in this industry.

Why you created two threads for same topic in different thread 1)Service discussion 2)Bitcoin Discussion.

@OP close any one of the thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1334075.0;topicseen (Bitcoin Discussion)

Where is the lawsuit? Is it next to the police report cryptsy filed for stolen coins? Did a judge rule for them stop distributing coins? Or are they doing that in hopes to appease certain people/slash by enough time/burn/hide all their assets so there is nothing to lose?

i have a pic of the hacker, can i get a % from bounty ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000080477152/dd7c940b58930e1247cf67256cb525fd_400x400.jpeg

Let's face it. There will be no law suit.
Like always in crypto the hacker wins and get away with it.
None of the big scammers was caught and brought to justice.

Yep, Obviously the admin will not reply to him using a newbie rank ;)

Even worse is the other day at the bank someone was cashing a check for $800 and wanted $600 in cash ($200 deposited). Teller had to get the manager, which forced the guy to fill out an IRS form explaining why he wants some of it in cash as opposed to depositing it all to his account (basically, he was told if he won't report to the IRS why he needs cash, they are unable to allow him to take it). Not really sure why all of that is... he could just deposit it all and use the ATM.

I think he is in China with his girl friend. That is from the court document against him by his wife. Shall I get the bounty?

Ha ha! Its amazing how many were defending this crook. I just hope he gets what he deserves.

I think nobody is defending him. I wish to put him in justice and get back my money in cryptsy. He deserves some punishment.

Do we know if the authorities are watching to see if he comes back to the US or do they even care about this issue?

At least his wife is very keen to find out if he is in the US. She had a complaint against him.

That's true, so maybe her lawyers can find him.  The problem with that is she want money in the divorce and all the cryptsy customers want their money back too, so their won't be much to go around.

Would his wife know his criminal activity before they split? If so, would she be liable for his action as well?

I don't know.  Also, the business money could be separate from the personal money but I don't know how that works.

It makes you wonder if you should stop trying to beat them and instead join them...

There is actually a class action lawsuit but I don't think we will get much from it.  From what I have found out, we will by lucky to get pennies on the dollar.

I think most of us here can agree that there was no actual "hack" to begin with. It's the same with all the exchanges that went under in similar way.
As soon as the exchange starts showing signs of losing traffic, the "hackes" come, yeah right. I would put Vern with Karpeles in Russian gulag to serve
as an example to the rest of the exchange owners.

You're probably right.  And we know for sure that BigVern hid the "theft" for 18 months so he was basically running a ponzi scheme from that point on.

Hi, friends.

I think we should to structure the information about current situation. I am personally have nearly 2 BTC on cryptsy in LTC and DASH. While I am not a US citizen and located far away (so I can't call feds,  find Vern there or sue with him), I have interest in cashback )

My proposiotion:
make a document with all users losses from Cryptsy scam, write detailed artical about situation, than promote that stuff via Internet (crypto-related sites should support us). After that someone in USA should go to police or FBI(i think better go to FBI because it's international crime) with all docs (about losses and acount nicknames on Cryptsy), prints of articles from the web and other stuff that we can get.

Who agrees?

He openly admitted "attempting to cover the losses from on-going profits" (or very similar)
I was very surprised when he posted that, since it seems to be a direct confession of a major felony.

I lost money there too, but I don't know if I want may name out there publicly.  If we could use user ID's then I think people may go along with that idea.  However, I don't expect to get my money back.  I think it's hidden or long gone.

Many of the "plenty of criminals out in the open" are potential future assets to a corrupt government. The people they really seek to control include (among others) independent thinkers, pro-freedom "radicals", and idealistic believers in the possibilities of Bitcoin.

I think it is criminal act to run a Ponzi scheme. A guy called Madoff (?) was sentenced to be in prison due to this.

That's right, Ponzi schemes are illegal.  I don't know why the justice system isn't going after him for running a Ponzi scheme.  There is a class action suit against him but he should be investigated for criminal activity even if money was stolen from the site.  He basically took money from people like me to pay out withdrawals to other people.

This is not a ponzi scheme.

A ponzi scheme is when the operator tells you they are investing the money for you, like with Pirate, GAW, etc. This is more like a failed bank that lost/took a bunch of the money and tried to keep going. It's also illegal, but at least ask the authorities to look in the right direction.

Prosecution or not, you are unlikely to get any money back because it's either really stolen or hidden by Vern. The warning signs were there, you should have gotten out when you could have. It would be nice if he gets sent to jail, but that probably won't get your money back. Learn waht warning signs you missed this time to prevent yourself from ending up like this again in the future.

I did try to get my money out.  They did not allow me to withdraw it.  When someone steals money or scams someone, its not always the fault of the victim for not doing something correctly.  Sometimes the person that steals the money is at fault.  In fact, the person that steals the money is always at fault.  Please don't blame victims.

It can be used against him if they are still in the states.

And everything they own to their deed or ownership can be taken away if the the judge takes certain judgment on the class action case, similar to BFL Labs.

I know this sounds harsh, but Cryptsy isn't a bank.

So was he right?

Is that evidence that BitJohn has access to Cryptsy wallets? I don't really get it.

You probably waited too long, or didn't want to take the partial loss by buying some overpriced shitcoin that you could withdraw and are now sitting with a total loss.

Cryptsy and/or the thieves definitely shoulder most of the blame, but anyoen that say here with their fingers in their ears while withdrawal delays and other issues were springing up over time get part of it. I'm not saying that to make you and the others like you feel bad, but so you guys can see what went wrong and how you could have done more to protect yourself so this doesn't happen to you again.

Anyone found "Big Vern" yet?  He's supposedly in China.

China is massive with billion of people there, it's gonna be a one tough challenge to find him there
Maybe we can conduct a search team to search the whole China, at least Big Vern won't be able to move from one place to another place easily that way :P

Though, we need to have crowdfunding to pay the search team

If we can get crowdfunding to pay for a search team, maybe we should just use the crowdfunding to pay for our losses instead.  Because even if we find him, we probably can't get the money back.

So, instead of searching and arrest him we should just forget and forgive him ?
The point of Searching him was to bring justice as we don't want a guy like that being waddling around and spending "His Money" :(
Find him, arrest him, prosecute him
:)
Maybe the Chinesse local boards can help us to search for him

Big vern will be very silent and hard to find. Don't expect him to go online with his real name. He should be i think some money lost maybe 1000's of bitcoins.
And they want their money back, one way or another.

I agree that someone needs to find him.  I just don't think we (customers) can afford to go over there or pay someone to go over there to get him.  I lost some money and at this point, I don't expect to get my money back and I don't expect him to get caught.  Unfortunately that's just the way it is.  The best we can hope for is the Chinese authorities looking for him.  I would assume that he had customers in China that want him found too.

He has a wife doesn't he ?
Maybe we can ask her about her Husband, she might know a thing or two about him
And maybe we can get a clue on where to go next :)
Him against thousands of craptsy users, we can get him if we try :)

His wife is suing him for property. BigVern fled to China with his girl friend. So his wife does not know his situation.

BigVern is sure a douchebag   :-\
Maybe we can dig in more info from his wife ?
Maybe his Contacts, phone number, even families that can lead us to him
Really want to see his face behind the bars ;D

I think his wife wants to find Big Vern as much as we do.  He apparently ran off with the money to China with his new girlfriend.  I think the best we can hope for is that the Chinese authorities catch him there.  I think it's possible but unlikely.

Don't worry, the Bitcoin Police are on the case.


https://i.imgur.com/tjJRdZZ.jpg


I hear they're working in shifts!   :D

You probably should just forget, but that's not what he's saying.

If people are going to give you a bunch of money, you are probably better off keeping it for yourselves instead of spending on something that has a tiny (if not zero) chance of getting you any money back.

Is that because you will all be too busy out spending the "hacked" funds?

That you can respond here is 1, but then just plain out say you won't be responding is just lunatic.
Why not keep things transparent? Was there really a hacker or did you just made that up?

Yeah you would think that anyone working for or connected to cryptsy would want to give us as much information as possible if they were really hacked. Then again, they waited a year and a half to tell us there was a hack to begin with.

I think unless BigVern is trialled in a court of justice, we will never know the truth. He could be involved in the theft.

That's what a lot of people are saying.  Even if he wasn't involved with the theft, he knew about it for a year and a half and didn't tell the customers.  So customers kept depositing money which Vernon used to pay off withdrawal requests until the money ran out.  Either way, he cheated us.

I think we will never know???

I think we all know. But some if us are living in denial. That guy went away rich with our coin. it was just too inviting.

Update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396267.new#new

So is it true that the money from cryptsy is being recovered?  I hope so and I hope everyone gets their money back.  I had a little bit on cryptsy.

Well if this is true it would be very good. It's good to see some justice happening here.
Let's face it. Cryptsy was wrong, but the investors/ users of cryptsy were not. They were right to expect a party like cryptsy had some proper
security features built in their ecxhange.

Let's don't get out hopes up on this.  According to the discussions in Scam Accusations, an agreement was supposedly made last night between Paul Vernon and a person that is able to get the stolen coins.  The agreement was posted on Cryptsy.  However, as of right now, no coins have been recovered.  This is probably a scam by Cryptcraker and either Vernon is in on it, or he is getting trolled too.  If it's legit, I don't see what is taking so long for them to transfer coins.  I'm very skeptical.

Very interesting how the whole thing suddenly changed and instead of "I have offered to give big Bern the identity of the person that committed the theft against cryptsy and help them be put to justice" it is now "Cryptcracker will recover for reward the stolen 13,000 Bitcoin".

Total BS.

Who cares about this bullshit? People only care if they get their coins back or not.

This. I've got Doge on there, and I'd like to get it out. It was very frustrating to miss the highs and just watch while the coins were tied up. Knowing my luck they won't release them till the price has collapsed.

We'll be lucky to get any of our coins back at all.  I wouldn't count on it at least.

You realize that the only reason that there were highs is because those were the only coins people could get off the site?

So smart people bought doge for more than they were worth so they could get the doge out and sell them somewhere else "at a loss" because selling one doge or less than they bought it for on cryptsy left them in a better position than holding any other coins that they couldn't get off of cryptsy.

I wouldn't count on you getting anything out. The fact that your actual coins weren't the ones that were "stolen" doesn't give you more of a claim to 100% of what cryptsy owes you than anyone else who had their coins "stolen," so if there is any resolution, expect a haircut.

Is there any more information on the guy who claims to be able to get the money from the hacker?

This is very interesting, I think he did it himself, like the most under us, it only has to be proven that is the thing so we can go further.
I hope he will react if he will than there is a chance it wasn't himself but this is unlikely in my eyes.
If he does not react it all says enough in my opinion right ?
 

I think the cryptcracker guy is just a troll.  He is getting what he wants which is to make a few people think he can get some stolen money.  He's probably just some teenager that is trying to string people along for fun.  Don't trust what he says.  If it was legit, he would have gotten the money immediately (like he said he would).

I totally agree with you, either this is BigVern trying to keep the people hoping and trying to keep the cops away, or this is just a troll having some fun. No one in their right mind would return 13000 BTC to only keep a fraction of it.

If it were me with 13000 BTC I would be enjoying myself on some exotic island right now, while all the users of cryptsy are complaining here, so there's no logic behind this, only trying to win time who ever is doing this.

Paul Vernon my be in fact on an exotic island right now.  However, he or whoever stole the money hasn't spent the money yet.  I think we need to watch where the coins go.

Don't worry about those coins. What is the total outstanding debt to depositors/traders?

that's a large amount, but how long have withdrawals been stalled? How much have they made by dumping other coins elsewherre? Park those coins somewhere, claim they were stolen, and keep the rest.

With the coins just parked and people watching, can they really move them and mix them without us tracking them?

People are watching, but to what. The game is played by the big boys now. If there comes a trade is very uncertain.
I still believe it is some PR happening showing that Big Vern didn't steal the money.

Is there any new information on recovering the bitcoins from cryptsy?  It seem like it has been a few days since we have heard anything.

Looks like it was just a fake, as we expected :(

It was just a hoax by Cryptcracker/Eternal Insolent.  He is either just a troll trying to play a prank or he could be involved with Paul Vernon and Cryptsy. 

I believe there is one more act in this play and it is the grand revealing what is included in the secret message in the pdf.

If that message is revealed to contain something highly embarrassing to cryptsy like something looking like a confession that the hack was an inside job and something about maybe sexual preferences it means that this hoax was from outside and only the hack was an inside job. If on the other hand that message remains a mystery forever it means that everything was an inside job from start to finish. One thing is for sure. It does not contain any outside real hackers name.

Please cryptwrecker reveal the message already!!! The suspension is killing me!!!

I posted in this topic a while ago, and it looks like the situation hasn't really changed... sad...
I was lucky that I didn't invest in Cryptsy so I can just sit back and eat my popcorn. I feel really bad for anybody who has lost coins with them, as it is pretty unlikely that you will ever get your money back.

Looks like it was just a troll...  :-[