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Title: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 04:45:49 PM Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bob123 on May 10, 2018, 05:13:14 PM While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them.
I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7. There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: tokexchain on May 10, 2018, 05:16:32 PM Whales, Traders and governments controls the markets, and deploy differing tactics in able to move the markets, some even such as fake news, it is all happening right now. I am sure Whales have more to do that sit on a trading platform all day but they probably have some fun there, sometimes...
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pekcoin01 on May 10, 2018, 05:16:51 PM Absolutely I agree. When the prices go up, the whales are attracting huge amounts of money from the market. For this reason, prices are experiencing incredible declines. Novice investors are doing great damage.
If you have invested, do not leave it alone. Some of you are awake when you sleep. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: cryptorgasm on May 10, 2018, 05:21:05 PM Probably you are correct that whales are selling at 10k mark, but if you think about it, everybody is thinking the same. Everybody is waiting for the highest peak for now to sell then buy at the lowest price, it is the fastest way to earn a fortune in bitcoin. But to think that whales are manipulating it every time is a no for me. Whales are whales because they have money, they have other businesses to take care of too and they don't have the time to watch the market most of the time. We the people are manipulating the market no just the whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: swogerino on May 10, 2018, 05:40:34 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020.
It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: First77 on May 10, 2018, 05:48:06 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes, who will buy Bitcoin at $5,000 when Gold is $1325/ounce. Could be giant scam from "traders cartel" Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: r32godzilla on May 10, 2018, 05:50:38 PM Hi guys , Yes big whales also manipulate the market but only to some extent and they don't have full control over the market.Otherwise by this time,bitcoin would had been just a pump and dump coin like altcoin.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: waqasanwar95 on May 10, 2018, 05:58:26 PM of course, no doubt whales are manipulating market you can check a fresh example now on date 10 MAy 2018 Time 10:57 PM +5GMT check bitcoin last 1 Hour candle you and let me know whales are real or not
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Yakapo on May 10, 2018, 06:01:39 PM The Crypto market is of late operating under lots of influence, its unfortunate that it no longer seems to operate on a legitimate market forces of demand and supply to determine the value and prices, Yes there seem to be an external forces influencing the Bitcoin prices, A factor that is not only unfair but also unfortunate as there are a number of people out there that are banking on the freedom and independence of Bitcoin yet its currently under external influence.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: TrufieldICO on May 10, 2018, 06:06:54 PM I believe there are whales moving the market creating more volatility. But one needs to look for the opportunity in these markets
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bellamente on May 10, 2018, 06:07:05 PM Now whales reduce the rate of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Most likely, before the "consensus" event, they want to buy cheap crypto currency and make money on its growth
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: swissgang on May 10, 2018, 06:14:27 PM Many whales manipulates the market, some actually try to do it and think they can manipulate though they are themselves manipulated. But for long term prices not daily ones I don't think there is big manipulation.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BinomNewton on May 10, 2018, 06:19:57 PM Now whales reduce the rate of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Most likely, before the "consensus" event, they want to buy cheap crypto currency and make money on its growth Its seems the whales main goal is to force the HODLers to sell their BTC for a low price by FUD, shitty news and market dumps. Those who sell their coins will loose in this battle and then btc can go tothemoon...Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betheng10 on May 10, 2018, 06:21:48 PM Whales has acquired a huge amount of bitcoin that if they decided to hold it, it might contribute a lot in market prices. If a single individual decided to hold huge amount of product, the supply would decrease but the question would be if demand would increase.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Harlot on May 10, 2018, 06:27:18 PM Hi guys , Whales selling at 10,000$ can create the price to decrease as well as create FUD, I don't think that all whales are the ones who are creating and starting FUD as their money alone can influence the market's movement. I also think that whales don't have the complete control on Bitcoin's movement. Why? If they are they would't be stuck on 100-300$ price changes in a day, yes they can create money with this little changes but I don't think they are also participating because if they do it wouldn't be as small as 100-300$ changes in a day, not unless they are buying and selling at small amounts multiple times. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kram31 on May 10, 2018, 06:28:33 PM yes they are!
well they can do that, they are whales as you called them. they can put wall on the sell or buy orders. and that is the big thing for subscriber. wall giving much attention and that cause panic too. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Theb on May 10, 2018, 06:53:46 PM The answer to your question is sometimes, whales are not the only reason why the price of Bitcoin is moving they are just the ones who can make big pumps and dumps happen. When you are observing your trading platform on occasion you will see some Bid Walls being broke down and Ask walls being bought up quickly, this is due some whale actions doing in that exchanges. They can quickly pierce to buy and sell walls at ease, but the problem I am seeing is we cannot accurately know what the whales are exactly doing or what is there next move. We only have our charts and trading platforms to see if there are some big changes happening which we can link to whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: dothebeats on May 10, 2018, 07:09:03 PM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bitbunnny on May 10, 2018, 07:25:44 PM Many people beleive this is true. In general people like conspiracy theories and beleive in them.
I think this is not completely untrue but on the other side the influence of whales is not that big and they can't manipulate the market in the way that they completely control the price. I think they can intiate some movements in.coordinate activities but I still beleive that Bitcoin remains independent. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: G2z_Riya on May 10, 2018, 07:39:45 PM Price manipulation over bitcoin and other digital currencies were true. We cannot conclude that the entire market is manipulated, to some extent the whales move their assets and try to manipulate the price. Maybe the manipulation from whales contribute around 2-5% overall.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: EnaksiS on May 10, 2018, 07:44:18 PM Manioulating? They are making the shape of the market. We can only defeat them by increasing the number of new members. More new invester love whale effect. That's just it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: vycl87 on May 10, 2018, 07:53:33 PM They certainly affect. But it does not come to me to link every situation to the movement of the whale. People with a large number of Bitcoins, which we call whales, make the most money through crypto money manipulation. Obviously, I can not say they are doing it wrong. Because who has so much Bitcoin in your hands, it will affect the price if you buy it somehow. It will have the same negative effect when it is selling. It happens without asking. For this reason, I do not want to think badly. This will change with the increase in the number of those with Bitcoin in hand. It is good to be with them instead of against them.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Lagrood on May 10, 2018, 09:23:55 PM All kind of markets are manipulated and it is normally. Just imagine that you have very much money and you decide to buy bitcoins I mean if you buy quite big amount you change current price sufficiently and in this case you are a person who manipulates a market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MUG1WARA on May 10, 2018, 11:46:25 PM of course money that many will be able to manipulate a market. because with the money that many people can do anything against something he wants.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: shulio on May 11, 2018, 12:04:32 AM Of course it is a whales job to manipulate market with its marketing and fiat power. To maximize their earnings, the manipulate the market in every way.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sid_jain on May 11, 2018, 05:02:55 AM my point is did you notice that this time bitcoin hovered around the 10k mark more than usual ... i think there was a fud going on where whales were testing the market before dropping shit loads ... i thought they were playing reverse pschology game but them it turned out the market crashed again
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: thecoder2017 on May 11, 2018, 07:38:43 AM We will not be surprised anymore because its their nature of.work to manipulate coins they will buy many but will hold it to make the rise of coins in the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Bagaji on May 11, 2018, 08:42:04 AM Whale are always out to make profit by way of price manipulation in their favour and there do that investing much in Bitcoin and that will increase the price upward after that there will dump by selling out their position and take profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: tradcoin on May 11, 2018, 06:25:12 PM Yeah, I also think that the market is being manipulated by the whales. I think they reduce the price of bitcoin in the market when the price is about to go up again by attracting huge amount of money from the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on May 11, 2018, 06:29:50 PM Hi guys , It also may be a reason or the market is naturally acting in that way.Now bitcoin is again crashing as you said so people need to start holding to help the bitcoin to recovery but most of the people will do panic selling at these kind of situation which make the condition even worse.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: darkangel11 on May 11, 2018, 07:25:11 PM Yes, they are, but what do you understand by manipulation? In reality a whale simply does his job. Buys low, sells high, has to sell to protect his investment because he doesn't believe in cryptocurrency, he wants more money in any form and if something looks like an opportunity he'll sell cryptocurrency and buy a domain, or a housing complex, whatever. What you may see as a manipulation to other people is playing the market. If you had a lot of money you'd be doing the same.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Hydrogen on May 11, 2018, 11:12:12 PM This is the best explanation I've seen for our recent decline in btc price.
Quote Cryptos Crash After Nvidia Forecasts Big Drop In Mining Demand Around 1pmET, the entire space tumbled almost instantly as large blocks went through in Bitcoin, with chatter suggesting the MtGox custodian was unloading once again. Prices quickly stabilized once that selling pressure abated. However, shortly after the US market closed at 4pmET, Nvidia announced its results, posting quarterly sales that topped expectations. However, NVDA shares fell as the company revealed for the first time that a bigger-than-anticipated portion of the demand for its powerful graphics processors came from the volatile cryptocurrency market. https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-05-10_17-25-19.jpg And then the company said that while it generated $289 million in sales to cryptocurrency miners in the first quarter, Chief Financial Officer Colette Kress said that the company expects cryptocurrency-related revenue to fall 65% to about $100 million in the next quarter. And that sparked a second leg of selling pressure across the crypto-space... https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-05-10_17-15-02.jpg Sending Bitcoin back below $9000... https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-05-10_17-29-57.jpg https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-10/cryptos-crash-after-nvidia-forecasts-big-drop-mining-demand Nvidia's forecast of a massive reduction in mining demand could be misinterpreted here. We know samsumg, nvidia and others announced plans to enter the dedicated ASIC markets via building their own dedicated chips. It is possible that increased production of ASICs and the increased market competition that comes with it is partly responsible. Rather than a straight reduction in demand, it could be a ramp up in competition and production which forecasts a more widely split market for mining hardware. Uncertain on whether MtGox's custodian is dumping btc. That could be yet another explanation. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bhabygrim on May 11, 2018, 11:18:46 PM Well maybe they are really manipulating the market,
Maybe they are the reason of the dip and then the people would sell their coin off then they would buy back to get a profit from it. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mace15 on May 11, 2018, 11:32:21 PM Well maybe they are really manipulating the market, I think whales does exists that halts to make the price increase. Their is a probability it happen always that manipulate the market. Yes this is I can observe the market the price drops for them to buy at a lower price. Maybe they are the reason of the dip and then the people would sell their coin off then they would buy back to get a profit from it. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: vhiancs on May 11, 2018, 11:40:23 PM I think it is yes, whales are manipulating the price of bitcoin for their own sake, they make a way to lower the value price of bitcoin currency, they are spreading false news so that the price of bitcoin falls so they can buy at low prices and fill their pockets to make way for the bitcoin price to rise in that way they will gain a huge profits.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: loreykyutt05 on May 11, 2018, 11:51:46 PM I think yes those people who has lot of coins can manipulate the market but only to some extent they cant manipulate the market everyday , If they dump or buy absolutely it has an impact but it will not last long since admit it or not there will be a correction
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: cahbagus555 on May 12, 2018, 12:32:10 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? It could be happen whales manipulating bitcoin price. Bitcoin price can be manipulated as we the manipulator have big amount of bitcoin. But I think bitcoin price can not break $10k because recently mt gox selling their bitcoin on trustee in large amount Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: maculeth on May 12, 2018, 01:06:10 AM in fact such thoughts are often a matter of debate. how they change the market price by selling all their bitcoins and making the bitcoin fall. then they buy it again when the price falls to pump the price, then sell again. but for the truth, we don't know.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Lorence.xD on May 12, 2018, 01:47:42 AM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys. In the trading market investment, their is always a shadow investor were they don't want to be exposed for so many reason, it may consider the issues on security of investor, and a lot more. Exposure of whales in the trading market world would result to either favorable for the posted ICO or even bad news to some competitor at the end it may result possible reaction on the market trading on crypto currency. We always see the profile presented as the officers of the said project yet we don't really have the idea who's the really investor behind. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Fappanu on May 12, 2018, 03:15:14 AM I think that whales are manipulating the market today, we see today the rapidly rising and falling prices that are not natural in the market. Maybe if these whales disappear we will see a steady price increase.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: santiPOGI on May 12, 2018, 03:40:38 AM there are many whales who are doing this in the market.
and i believe they are doing it as they have the capability to put walls. walls are one of the biggest problem in keeping any coin to rise. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jamids on May 12, 2018, 03:48:36 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes there are whales but there are times when we thought that it was whales that are doing it but it was actually a group of traders who treat $10k as psychological resistance so they put a sell order just below $10k so that they can still sell if others decide to sell as well. If you can see the price in bitfinex which is one of the high volume trading exchange in the market, the price reach $9,990 but didn't reach $10k because they put a sell order below. Even if you have only 1 btc which is obviously not a whale but there are others who has 1 btc as well with that selling price and there are hundreds of then, then it would look like a whale is doing it. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: millithe1st on May 12, 2018, 03:55:04 AM this is probably one of the dumbest questions i've heard on here lmao it's obvious and it only makes sense for LARGE SHARE HOLDERS TO CONTROL THE MAJORITY it's not that it's not fair because it isn't but try and be a little pilot fish
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Papcio77 on May 12, 2018, 04:17:59 AM Yes, these big whales can manipulate the market currency prices. Their big funds can easy dump or pump one coin. It is one way for them to buy more coins at dip. By manipulating the market they can control their profit easily. And sone whales making fudds to dump a one coin after goes on dip. They will buy a big amount of coin.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Siren on May 12, 2018, 04:26:23 AM Hi guys , If they are not,then who's manipulating the market price then?is there any elements here that can do price manipulation? So we all knew the answer right?Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I've been observing the market for half year now or more,and what i am seeing is groups of people whos having enough capital to make the price pump and dump,in past only the altcoins and specially those shitcoins is the material they are using for this,but now its the Bitcoin because they know that if bitcoin price moves,then so all the altcoins tol Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pandanaran on May 12, 2018, 04:34:02 AM Hi guys , I think so too, but it's a small possibility to be known true or not because of anonymous and anyone with a large budget can do it, there are some coins who are manipulated by whales in my view and I'm not really paying particular attention to the whales because it's their decision, it's just that I'm afraid is the spread of FUDs that make beginners at a disadvantage.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: supermine on May 12, 2018, 04:47:17 AM Hi guys , Yes they are manipulating the markers because they holds large number of bitcoin and other crypto currencies but their aim is to make money by initiating the price fall later people will react to that results in serious price fall at the end the newbie investors were trapped.But we can't say they are only in the control of market,other factors are also involving in this like news about crypts and country's status about crypto currencies and lot others.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: dogz12 on May 12, 2018, 04:48:40 AM Hi guys , Very much possible i think. Whales are rich people who has the capability of affecting the prices of bitcoin. When prices are low they tend to buy large amount of coins to pump up the prices and they can also lower the prices by dumping their large holdings.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: timerland on May 12, 2018, 09:53:42 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? That's only a theory, but it could be possible. $10k is just a resistance that is pretty strong, and investors with a big amount of BTC may think the same. There may be shorters at the $10k levels, or even big investors taking their profits because they know that $10k is going to hard to get by during this pump. But is that really manipulation? But honestly, if there is any sort of big player in a market, then manipulation will happen in one form or another, because trades by bigger traders carry more weight on the price, essentially. Question is to what extent, and how they are doing it. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pat4cryptoreal on May 12, 2018, 10:09:53 AM Market manipulation is not done by whales alone. I have observed that so many people just buy cryptocurrency but do not have strong believe in cryptocurrency. They just by for immediate profit, that is why anyone will wake up and say anything in social media and people will start dumping their cryptocurrency which will directly crash the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mylyn2327 on May 12, 2018, 01:33:32 PM Market manipulation is not done by whales alone. I have observed that so many people just buy cryptocurrency but do not have strong believe in cryptocurrency. They just by for immediate profit, that is why anyone will wake up and say anything in social media and people will start dumping their cryptocurrency which will directly crash the market. Just like you I believe there's still a lot of people who just go with what is trend but won't be able to stand firm and only want high profit. And I think they also have part on what is happening in the market, not only big whales. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Shame_Game on May 12, 2018, 01:46:15 PM Of course, big whales manipulate the market. And the prolonged decline on the cryptocurrency market is due to the fact that institutional investors are now entering this attractive market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: trako on May 12, 2018, 03:22:33 PM of course. it is very clear. manages everything that is strong. and it acts as it wishes. it's not just whales. Even governments can do that. small investors can not impress the market very much.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Panpan66L on May 12, 2018, 04:24:08 PM Of course they are! because the price is so jumping volative, that it leaves no doubt about that. but what we actually can do?)
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: tambok on May 12, 2018, 04:28:32 PM of course. it is very clear. manages everything that is strong. and it acts as it wishes. it's not just whales. Even governments can do that. small investors can not impress the market very much. That is right, that is why we should not be afraid of them when we knew that a certain coin or token was good to invest at then it is fine to take a risk while we still have time to do buying, don't mind those whales when they are taking advantage to the market, if the project is good then it is worth to invest at.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: muddy waters on May 12, 2018, 04:59:31 PM Yes big whales also manipulate the market but only to some extent and they don't have full control over the market.Otherwise by this time,bitcoin would had been just a pump and dump coin like altcoin. Bitcoin actually pumps and dumps and these fluctuations are even worse than those of alts as bigger money are involved here.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Of course they do. Whales create a "wave" - they deliberately sell a part of their assets below the current price in such a volume so that to attract the attention of other market players. This leads to the following: - Cautious traders prefer to get rid of a cheaper asset. - Inexperienced investors begin perceiving bitcoin as a bubble. - As a result, panic occurs. People sell cryptocurrency in even larger volumes => whales buy BTC with a nice discount. In such a way, manipulators obtain even more assets than they used to have. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nboramir on May 12, 2018, 04:59:51 PM Yes, I agree that whales are manipulating the markets. They put fake sell and buy walls. Also sometimes they sell a huge amount of bitcoin or altcoin and they are collapsed. I think it hurts crypto markets.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: billbear on May 12, 2018, 05:06:04 PM I think they are. But actually we are manipulating it by panic selling and panic buying coins, by depending on a fake news and etc.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 12, 2018, 05:10:35 PM Hi guys , This scenario you painted is mere specualtive. And I think that is what it is. We shouldn't forget that there is a strong resistance formed at that level and also a major support around the $8,000 region. We know how the TA works as a psychological level. Until the resistance or support is breached, pice will continue to dance around those regions. This may not be a whale doing this. It's just human psychology.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: DumbLefty on May 12, 2018, 05:36:45 PM I'm sure the whales manipulate the market and take away a lot of bitcoins from inexperienced investors.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: usekevin on May 12, 2018, 05:48:22 PM I'm sure the whales manipulate the market and take away a lot of bitcoins from inexperienced investors. Some times,it will be the bitter truth.Because,if the whales sell the huge amount of bitcoin in one shot.Surely,it will affect the market.The people who are new to trading,will sell their bitcoin with the panic.If the huge reduction in the bitcoin price means,you have to HODL. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Pelevelyl on May 12, 2018, 05:50:37 PM You should know that money doesn't come from nowhere. If you did, then someone lost that money, you took it from someone. Don't think you'll always take it, not give it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Cynooza on May 12, 2018, 08:53:17 PM I believe that's true to some extent. If you possess a substantial amount of some crypto you can indeed manipulate the market. However, it will most likely be only a temporary effect.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Chrystora123 on May 12, 2018, 09:28:32 PM that's the reality, why before the world cup starts Bitcoin and Altcoin prices down because Whales will do "Pump" at the World Cup is running or ended...because based on the news I read, Russia opened itself to receive cryptocurrency as payment in some public services when the World Cup was held.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: meanwords on May 13, 2018, 12:59:23 AM I personally think that there are some giant investors or what we call "Whales" are partly manipulating the market. Cryptocurrency market is highly volatile and could be manipulated with large sum of capitals. Whales have the man power, money, and influences to use for the manipulation of a market. Whales are a friend of medias which is why I stop listening to some fakes news around the internet because I know that those medias are always bias. Whales also are in a group that helps each other. So I think there's no doubt that they are manipulating or moving the market sometimes.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: cryptomoon1003 on May 13, 2018, 01:06:05 AM Whales don't always buy coins the traditional way through exchanges they can use Over the Counter Trading or Dark pools. This way they can buy vast amounts of a coin (if available) without it being noticed by the public eye. If you are a potential Whale you don't want the general public to notice your very large buy order all at one time. This would send signals to others that its getting ready to be manipulated. The great whale of 2014 caused an event where a massive liquidation of bitcoin where sold at 300 dollars a piece. Which was a supply of 30,000 bitcoins totaling 9 million dollars. People assumed this was going to crash the entire crypto market at the time, but to many people's surprise the buyers ripped right through the sell orders and the coin rose to $375 dollars.
I found an interesting article here: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@endpoint/crypto-whales-and-how-they-manipulate-the-price Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: danielberryfy on May 13, 2018, 01:10:17 AM if you bought into a quality coin and believe in its community and tech, don't let weak hands deter you from staying in the game.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: EuronPower on May 13, 2018, 01:35:09 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? That has a lot of logic. We must remember that as well as the great discoveries, this market was born from an idea, once materialized and successful, the big businessmen have had to adapt and surely they are the big whales that can make the market rise and get off when they want. Now, what do we do with this system? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pallang on May 13, 2018, 02:37:15 PM I think yes since the beginning because they have the money so they can manipulate the markets they
can buy Bitcoin as many as they want because they have the money. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nicol3 on May 13, 2018, 02:54:57 PM Yes I think the whales are manipulating the market because they have the money to manipulate the market and they get something out of it too. But I do hope they won’t manipulate when these cryptocurrencies would then be legalized in the future.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: isidrorex on May 13, 2018, 03:15:29 PM Yes, I do really believe that these "whales" have the power to manipulate and play the market. The moment that you realize that they became "whales" in the cryto world just means that they are a big part of the price in the market. They can just make a certain market pump or dumb in anytime they want. I believe that they manipulate the market price for their own good and for their own profit and as ordinary traders, we just can't do nothing about these ruling whales in this cruel crypto world.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sheenshane on May 13, 2018, 03:28:14 PM Yes, I do really believe that these "whales" have the power to manipulate and play the market. The moment that you realize that they became "whales" in the cryto world just means that they are a big part of the price in the market. They can just make a certain market pump or dumb in anytime they want. I believe that they manipulate the market price for their own good and for their own profit and as ordinary traders, we just can't do nothing about these ruling whales in this cruel crypto world. Actually, that was also in my mind that they have the power to play the market and manipulate cryptocurrency because they have a lot a money to do on this. That's the reason richer is most get rich because they have a lot of money in they playing of cryptocurrency, they also know when it is dump so they can buy as what they want to earn a profit on this.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Noelbetty12 on May 13, 2018, 05:10:50 PM For me I don't really think they have a lot to do with it. Though the possibility of whales affecting the cryptocurrency market is possible but it is also a risk on their part to lose their investments. Not unless if they will all group together to completely dominate the rise and fall of the market for digital coins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: SPQR_Legionnaire on May 13, 2018, 05:12:13 PM There's a saying. "In the Wall Street, the bear makes money, the bull makes money, and the pigs get slaughtered." Well, you only lose money if you panic sell below your purchase price and exit. This might sound like a conspiracy story, but it's true that even those in the highest cadre in politics are trying every dirty trick in the books in order to gain from the volatility of cryptos. Remember that time when South Koreans were investigated for insider trading? Yep. So don't feed the whales. If you believe in crypto, which I'm sure you do, otherwise why the fuck would you be here, then hold. Cryptos have always had these "crashes" and every time it managed to climb past its previous ATH. Not by 10 % or 20 %,but 100% and 200%. Get some discipline nd train your stomach till it becomes as though as a Nokia phone.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MilfordGannon on May 13, 2018, 05:13:29 PM I also noticed the same thing actually. I think whales are responsible for this. When the price is low, they buy a huge amount that other people hardly get chance to buy. This actually helps in lowering the price. The fuds are also responsible for the price drop.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Stephen1989 on May 13, 2018, 05:20:39 PM I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7.
There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. I Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hermanjones18 on May 13, 2018, 05:20:57 PM From my perspective i think whales always wants to manipulating the market. Whales always wants to control the crypto market. When the price increase they manipulate the market and decrease the coin price.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pheonyx on May 13, 2018, 05:28:01 PM While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them. What if the shitty news, fud, and trust are materials of the whales? Seems like this is part of the best way to control the market, isn't? I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7. There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Feuerbach on May 13, 2018, 06:56:57 PM Hi guys , Yes, having a large capital can influence the market. You can create a pump and dump for your own purposesDo you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nahl on May 13, 2018, 07:06:03 PM yes i believe that since last year when the price was jumping rapidly they already manipulate it and the whales will always manipulating the price for their own advantages because the price will never so fluctuate if there is no manipulating price and they utilize some news to makes decission to dump or to pump
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: felixesteban on May 13, 2018, 07:09:12 PM I've been keeping my faith for a long time. Marketcap volume is very small compared to the real market, so it shouldn't be too hard for whales to manipulate the market. When market volume rises to trillion dollars in a few years, manipulation can eliminate.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: yoseph on May 13, 2018, 07:17:33 PM Hi guys , Well they can manipulate them market and they can do anything to make more profits but if they sell and create this FUD and no one succumbs and sell then its all of no effect. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Kevin77 on May 13, 2018, 07:20:29 PM Hi guys , One thing we obviously cannot rule out. Yes, the whales manipulate the market. We cannot always believe it, but there are two sides to trading. Those who control the market and those who follow the trend and then investors are just there looking forward to the long term. Let me break it down a little. Traders make use of technical analysis to make a trade, whales implement those analyses for traders to see and then make decision on that.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Now, as a whale in a particular market, I will definitely know how to place these emotions in the market to spike some sell off or a buy in as the case may be, so I believe whales are really the main cause of market movement even though there may still be some other factors still being used by them. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: snkneo on May 13, 2018, 07:30:34 PM I think this is all the doing of the Mt Gox lawyer. He moved more Bitcoin to sell, and then the price dropped.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: acener on May 13, 2018, 07:33:38 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I think so, since whales have a huge amount of money, they can affect the market. Just imagine how many people panic sell whenever price goes down. So, I think whales have a great impact on cryptocurrency price. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ahmad21 on May 13, 2018, 07:34:26 PM Think? I am dead sure about it the long candles you see on the day charts is ofcourse not something done by normal or poor traders these are work of big whales who are always pumping and dumping the market. This thing happens so much in crypto is because its absolutely unregulated and no one really cares if you pump or dump market. Most of the times when you see big pumps in a day and big dumps in a day I am pretty sure solely charts and technical analysis aren't responsible for it. Whales are always at the work and begin to make money once the old money is finished.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mycomike12345 on May 13, 2018, 09:30:26 PM Rich people can afford to buy more cryptocoins and it will create a high movements of price at the market, obviously price of cryptocoins at the market will rise because a huge volume of coins was invested. For me they are not manipulating the market, we are the same with them it's just they have the capacity to buy more cryptocoins. I invest cryptocoins because i want to earn by hodling and i think im a good trader also that knows how to observe and ride the trend of the market. Understand crypto world then come up a good strategy, patience always wins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Cryptostocks on May 13, 2018, 09:48:23 PM Nope, i do not think so, the market is full of fear at the moment, that is the reason of why we are seeing a lot of constantly changes on the price of almost every crypto everyday. I am not scared, and i would never sell.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jhonjhon on May 13, 2018, 10:00:32 PM Of what happen to the market recently dump isn't not only by doing of whales. Although we think that they participation in the bull run happenings but we can't just put everything to them. A lot of factors that affect it's trend and isn't unusual thing happen in crypto.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Ahiaba on May 13, 2018, 10:01:25 PM No doubt about it for Whales are out manipulate crypto currency market in their favour and at the detriment of those who are new in the crypto currency market trading. But some their manipulation will favour some people who are good in trading crypto currency and altcoins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: onemoretime8520 on May 13, 2018, 10:35:14 PM it is quite normal and it is happening, as there are not too much regulations in the market manipulating it is very easy and without any consequence. There is not any reason for whales why not to manipulate the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nylelyn on May 13, 2018, 10:53:22 PM I do believe that whales play vital role in manipulating the prices. These people will buy or sell in high volume of coins and everyone will come to notice that the market is moving fast. I like to watch and participate when this activity take place and take advantage to get some profit too. These people are also investors and promoters themselves that creates support for a purpose.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: faceoff97 on May 13, 2018, 11:15:02 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? They actually have the ability, they can easily do the manipulation and make the price change frome time to time. There is no denying that if a person hokda greater volume, they can easily make large changes and difference in the price. Once the volume is equally distributed. The price might possibly get stable. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BLTC on May 13, 2018, 11:33:50 PM Well, it's the same in the current economic system. Few family's is manipulating the market. And this is the same thing in the cryptocurrency world, whales are those people who have the most amount of stakes/holding that could affect the price if they move. Its always happening everywhere.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Noctis Connor on May 13, 2018, 11:50:03 PM Hi guys , No they can't manipulate the market 24 hrs. I think the market react depends on being in demand of it if many people invest on bitcoin so the market would increase their market cap and it is the reason of increasing the value for evey coin.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: zxrcoin on May 14, 2018, 03:22:34 PM Yes I think they do. This whates have such big influence on market and they drop and rise the price according to their wish to earn more profit and general investors have to suffer for that. They sometimes create a fud for making business.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Zemomtum on May 14, 2018, 04:46:13 PM If you are new to this kind of market then welcome to this kind of market because this is the behavior of the cryptocurrency, they are always get manipulated by the big players like those rich people from the other market who are trying to make some profits from the crypto and it is not often for me to see a real pump because it is more often manipulation.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Bezobraznike on May 14, 2018, 05:08:01 PM If you are new to this kind of market then welcome to this kind of market because this is the behavior of the cryptocurrency, they are always get manipulated by the big players like those rich people from the other market who are trying to make some profits from the crypto and it is not often for me to see a real pump because it is more often manipulation. With every market is being manipulated. Maybe there are free markets, but they are in control of someone, like government. Do you know what monopolist is? They invented economy that we know today. With crypto-market whales, or we can give them any kind of name, manipulate, that is 100% accurate. How that do it is known, with controlling supply & demand. To control it they need to have a lot of Bitcoin`s and a lot of money, with Bitcoin`s they have they control supply, with money they control demand. Using mass medias in manipulation is known as spinning news, and they are magicians on that field. They create panic or spread fear is that suit their needs, with so many people that read news without thinking about it, doing that is not so hard. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: airdrophunter on May 14, 2018, 10:49:06 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Yamifoud on May 14, 2018, 11:16:42 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates. We are just in the reality of crypto, of course whales have a huge capability of doing that since they have invested more than of us. And besides, we don't have any laws to stop them, is that their strategies anyway and they are just playing their money. But not all it matters to them, prices will fluctuate also anytime even without them. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jblittle00 on May 14, 2018, 11:23:56 PM I couldn't agree more and was just having this same conversation with someone yesterday. These lulls create a nice little opportunity for the "whales" to buy, and it's pretty much the only control they have. I mean it's really the first time they have no control over what's happening economically and digitally, so they only thing that can do is sprinkle in a little fear.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Superzpay on May 14, 2018, 11:32:02 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates. We are just in the reality of crypto, of course whales have a huge capability of doing that since they have invested more than of us. And besides, we don't have any laws to stop them, is that their strategies anyway and they are just playing their money. But not all it matters to them, prices will fluctuate also anytime even without them. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Siren on May 15, 2018, 12:31:46 AM Hi guys , No they can't manipulate the market 24 hrs. I think the market react depends on being in demand of it if many people invest on bitcoin so the market would increase their market cap and it is the reason of increasing the value for evey coin.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I couldn't agree more and was just having this same conversation with someone yesterday. These lulls create a nice little opportunity for the "whales" to buy, and it's pretty much the only control they have. I mean it's really the first time they have no control over what's happening economically and digitally, so they only thing that can do is sprinkle in a little fear. Well said thats why this kind of topic must be spread all over this forum for those manipulators to be alarmed that people now here are aware of what has their doingTitle: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Ryanpogi on May 15, 2018, 12:42:21 AM it's possible to happen, because we do not know the brain of investors or whales. so good to do is to be wet when we are in good condition. the number if it reads in furom This is it's possible ..
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Cinemo on May 15, 2018, 12:47:56 AM Hi guys , I think thats what actually happening now. Cryptocurrencies market are manipulated by cryptocurrency whales. Those whales are powerful. Every move are powerful so you must know how to go with the flow cause if you are not? You will lost. Your crypto will lose. You will be defeated. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BinManR on May 15, 2018, 03:11:28 AM Hi guys , There is a reason to think so, but I think it should be familiar with that. In fact, the process of falling down can be seen when the market capitalization is drawn very quickly. That just shows me that decentralized supply is a trait that produces volatility and profits that are being exploited thoroughly by the pump / dump processes.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . Quote My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I think it's like the process before Mtgox (G20), the market capitalization has fallen so fast afterwards. But right now, the market is fluctuating again. I believe in the positive of the coming market. BTC will reach over 10k, ETH will reach 1k in this next fluctuation.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: josephpogi on May 15, 2018, 04:52:53 AM Hi guys , Yes i am sure that whales are the manipulators in cryptocurrency because they have a money to control it even if they want to pump it or dump it becauase whales gets a lot of money than smal amount of investments becuase they have a power to play all money.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: GregH37 on May 15, 2018, 05:29:10 AM Of course it is a whales job to manipulate market with its marketing and fiat power. To maximize their earnings, the manipulate the market in every way. No doubt these are the whales that affect the price of bitcoin. They hold a huge quantity of bitcoin and when they realize that now the price is high they sell their bitcoin and when there is big supply in the market the price down and small investors lose their money. again and they buy bitcoin again, and when they buy all the available stock the price bump at once Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Pumapipa on May 15, 2018, 06:22:46 AM A big possibility. But please bear in mind that we have just entered the second quarter and pumps are attesting to take place. We still have two remaining quarters to fully appreciate the true value of bitcoin. Some have speculated the value to be between 30k to 60k in dollars by the end of the year. Yes, we can also do speculate that whales maybe controlling the price for this phase, considering that they can do whatever they want because they have the most holdings.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: yslyv on May 15, 2018, 06:33:06 AM There is no doubt they do it. They manipulate it using their financial power. Dump to buy more pump to sell in higher price. It is quite normal that they want to earn more so they do it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bitcoindian on May 15, 2018, 06:35:25 AM Hi guys , I think thats what actually happening now. Cryptocurrencies market are manipulated by cryptocurrency whales. Those whales are powerful. Every move are powerful so you must know how to go with the flow cause if you are not? You will lost. Your crypto will lose. You will be defeated. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes, we have to be very careful with these whales because they can easily manipulate the market within seconds. So, i suggest small investors not to do day trading because this might effect hugely when whales enter the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Btcschool on May 15, 2018, 11:55:17 AM my point is did you notice that this time bitcoin hovered around the 10k mark more than usual ... i think there was a fud going on where whales were testing the market before dropping shit loads ... i thought they were playing reverse pschology game but them it turned out the market crashed again Only whales can manipulate the market, because they have big influence in crypto world. The price up and down due to their manipulations. I think these whales are the only investors who never lose in cryptocurrency, because they know the upcoming situation of the values of different coins. They manipulate with the controllers of bitcoin and the price as well.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Supercrypt on May 15, 2018, 03:33:32 PM While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them. Yeah, there are other things that could affect the market, but one thing I have noticed in my year of trading is that if whales just do not want the market to move further in any direction, they simply know how to do it. I have been a whale in a small crypto market and I was able to play to make some profit.I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7. There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. Most times, when you have the resources to pull it off, you will always know when to accumulate at the dip enough, make the price break some resistance, of course, traders will bounce in depending on how that market is perceived, the price starts moving up, and as it keeps going, you keep pushing up to the price you want and then voila, you start distributing the sell off until you are satisfied and then drive it down to the next support over and over again. That is how whale cycle operates, but news always has a big part to play as well. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: JoshMart on May 15, 2018, 03:44:05 PM I think so, I believe that there are whales out there trying to control the market to be able to gain more, these rich businessmen are very wise and strategic, they will do anything and everything on their powers to be able to gain more out of this Bitcoin craze, this is such a big opportunity to earn more just to let it pass. I am quite sure that most of them are here not because they believe in Bitcoin and its technology but because they saw the potential and the opportunity to earn from it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: TitanGEL on May 15, 2018, 03:45:09 PM Hi guys , Yes! Whales can manipulate the markets! Whales are so powerful that they can control and change the price of the cryptocurrencies. If you will observe the cryptocurrency market, you will see pumps and dumps and I know that whales are the people behind of pumps and dumps.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: biletskiy on May 15, 2018, 04:02:39 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes, I am sure the whales do it. They have 99% of Bitcoins and the majority of altcoins, and they can do it easily. However, you can watch this video and make your own conclusions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSRiBUKWE&t=5s Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Similificator on May 15, 2018, 04:13:43 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Well, a lot of people really has been talking about this claim and I cannot blame them nor say that it isn't true since if you have money you can really do a ton of things if you wished to. But I honestly think that whales have a little role in the price of bitcoins nor do they manipulate the market or if it is on purpose because there clearly are quite a lot of people that use cryptos which in my opinion if a fud is spread by a person, it can cause a chain reaction that can lead to dips. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: justdimin on May 15, 2018, 04:17:42 PM Probably you are correct that whales are selling at 10k mark, but if you think about it, everybody is thinking the same. Everybody is waiting for the highest peak for now to sell then buy at the lowest price, it is the fastest way to earn a fortune in bitcoin. But to think that whales are manipulating it every time is a no for me. Whales are whales because they have money, they have other businesses to take care of too and they don't have the time to watch the market most of the time. We the people are manipulating the market no just the whales. It is normal for everybody to think the same way, but have you not seen people thinking the same way before and then things not going as planned ?Whales know what they are doing, they read emotions in the market, and they know when to distribute buying and selling and how to move the market. Traders are there trying to play their cards safely, but the main fact here is that the whales make the call and there is absolutely nothing we can all do about it. One reason they call them the market movers or makers. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Dudeperfect on May 15, 2018, 04:51:01 PM Yes, that's the open secret that big whales and institutional investors are manipulating the market and that's not because they have money but there is lack of awareness among the users and investors and even a small dip of 10% creates the panic selling environment in the market as per the expectations of the big whales and they buy during that dip and again push the price upwards which again creates panic buying situation. However, I believe that we will see high maturity from the investors in the coming years which will reduce the volatility of the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ArteMixer on May 15, 2018, 04:53:21 PM I say why not, as they could just hire a manager to that for then and that is a very good passive income source, so I do not see the reason for them not to do that.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Pattart on May 15, 2018, 05:41:45 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates. We are just in the reality of crypto, of course whales have a huge capability of doing that since they have invested more than of us. And besides, we don't have any laws to stop them, is that their strategies anyway and they are just playing their money. But not all it matters to them, prices will fluctuate also anytime even without them. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Jaydis on May 15, 2018, 05:45:47 PM It's not possible for the whale to controlling or manipulating the market, and i guess that they know what their doing in the market, they know how to manipulate us and also controlling the market to give more excitement and other flavor to people get amaze and not stagnant in traditional way and i guess that they have a lot of surprises this year 2018 and I'm hoping for it. however we still to hold onto it and do our part being an investors.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Dasha88fed on May 15, 2018, 07:05:17 PM It's not possible for the whale to controlling or manipulating the market, and i guess that they know what their doing in the market, they know how to manipulate us and also controlling the market to give more excitement and other flavor to people get amaze and not stagnant in traditional way and i guess that they have a lot of surprises this year 2018 and I'm hoping for it. however we still to hold onto it and do our part being an investors. The market can be manipulated by anyone who has enough money. By throwing a large number of Bitcoins on the stock exchange, they can lower its price and vice versa, buying it in large quantities can sharply raise its price. In the same way, its price can be kept in certain price ranges. Manipulating the media and their influence on people can also raise or lower the demand for cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jimmybush07702 on May 15, 2018, 08:06:40 PM I say for what reason not. as they could simply employ a chief to that for at that point and that is a decent easy revenue source.so I don't see the explanation behind them not.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ene1980 on May 15, 2018, 08:11:43 PM It's not possible for the whale to controlling or manipulating the market, and i guess that they know what their doing in the market, they know how to manipulate us and also controlling the market to give more excitement and other flavor to people get amaze and not stagnant in traditional way and i guess that they have a lot of surprises this year 2018 and I'm hoping for it. however we still to hold onto it and do our part being an investors. It is really possible if a whale is planning to sell of tens of thousands of bitcoin and it will reflect in the market and that is what we have seen in the market, Mt Gox have moved a lot of coins from their cold wallet and they might have sold their coins, the price would rebound like we have seen in the past.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Xardasim on May 15, 2018, 08:12:19 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Certainly, in crypto market whales manipulates price. Already, for that, technique analysis doesn't work in cryptocurrency. If the value of crypto market increases, whales will not able to do itt easily. You can not hear a pump-dump in Forex because the market value is very high and you have to own the world for pump-dump the price of any currency. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: thetruth123123 on May 15, 2018, 08:12:45 PM I think they are, but if we will stop be in a short hold of them, listening every word they say, theu would not be able anymore'
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: neonshium on May 17, 2018, 04:24:42 AM I think this is all the doing of the Mt Gox lawyer. He moved more Bitcoin to sell, and then the price dropped. Agree. The essence is for them to make profits too. I remember a thread someone once opened few days ago about how even us the traders are just at the mercy of whales and all we do is to do some educated gambles in the market with the help of the indicators, but as it is, obviously, the whales and institutions control every market since they have the upper hand and position and which even makes it easy for them in a smaller and decentralized market.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bowals on June 01, 2018, 09:12:58 PM I think I agree because btc is supposed to have crossed the 10k mark by now but here we are
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bololord on June 01, 2018, 09:53:08 PM Hi guys , Those big players has a big impact in the market after they sold their bitcoin or other crypto expect the big dump but it is normal and that's their strategy, So the affected are the small player the only things we can do is to ignore negative news, hold, and patience because if we become panic seller we also contributed to the dump and the winner are those whales.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Coinredd on June 07, 2018, 08:23:13 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Yamifoud on June 07, 2018, 11:26:41 PM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates. We can't just blame whales of making our market today so volatile but surely they contributed it much. Volatile is already presence since from the start, but it is getting worst as a lot of people engage in crypto. Anyway, isn't a big problem in here, the fact that we've been in crypto we have to accept it and enjoy the moment seeing market red and green in color.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: naigelbit on June 08, 2018, 03:29:01 AM Not just only the Whale's manipulating the market count also those trader's and government. Government is the one who FUDD investor so that they panic sell there token or there bitcoin.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: olalaMaty on June 08, 2018, 03:53:58 AM No i dont think so. no whale is manipulating the market, a respected businessman and respected technical analyst, believes there is no solid evidence to back up claims that whales and large investors have manipulated the bitcoin price or the broader electronic money market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: patarfweefwee on June 08, 2018, 03:57:25 AM Yes! I so think so too. Whales actually control the prices of crypto currency by buying and selling at the most opportune time. Then again, it's also our fault for letting coins be available in the market. We should always hold and buy more so we take the control from the whales. Let's just stop panic selling and actually invest on crypto currency
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nyenyepogi on June 08, 2018, 05:56:38 AM Hi guys , I think that too, but we need to be patience and right timing when to buy and sell our bitcoin because this kind of scenario is very common it crypto world and beside bitcoin is very volatile so better to hold our bitcoin and wait until it become profitable again.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Baoo on June 08, 2018, 06:32:51 AM Absolutely yes, that's why the market in volatility and a total decline. Moreover, The whales ( capitalists ) always manipulating the prices of the whole market especially Bitcoin, because everything is linked or related to the king BTC, when the wales sell a large amounts of Bitcoin, then all the market will fall, so there is a relation between the best cryptourreny (BTC) and the followers ( like, Ethereum, Ripple, Litecoin....).
As a matter of fact, I think there are some goals of the capitalists, maybe when the market will fall with a huge value, then they will re-buy again a different crytocurrencies and at that moment, the majority of coins will rise with an acceptable value (Big pump ) . so the only appropriate choice in this bad situation is Holding, and if you want a big profit, be patient and wait for the good surprise. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Cacao2017 on June 08, 2018, 07:47:19 AM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. Whales are manipulating the market you suspect so personally, I'm also skeptical about this, but if we do not have evidence yet, we can not blame us at the level. The suspicion or suspicion that the whale market manipulation is a problem will have the high level they deal withIt is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Kakawate on June 08, 2018, 08:46:28 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I think since these whales have the capability and the means to literally buy huge amount of coins, then I think they could manipulate the cryptomarket as everyone is saying, it is actually a sad story ro hear, that people are saying that cryptocurrency cannot be manipulated and yet here are these whales controlling the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: samycoin on June 08, 2018, 09:34:45 AM Hi guys , Maybe, because whales has a million of money to manipulate the market if they want drop it they can do it and if they want increase it they can do it too. So I think whales can manipulate the market.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: EnricoGomez on June 08, 2018, 03:41:17 PM Of course they do.
They have the capability power to do so. If you have an amount big enough to manipulate price according to your very own liking - lower it to hoard more coins or make it higher to sell them off, you can make the value in the current time period favorable on you which means more money and more profit, if you hold an immense amount or is able to influence a lot of people, most likely that you are profit-bound. And manipulating the market gets you quite the profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: SectorZero on June 08, 2018, 04:02:28 PM Yeah,I think they're throwing out everyone who accidentally bought it. Coins are promising and they will still buy expensive. Like it was in December when someone bought$19,000. And those who previously underwent the UPS and downs of sitting and quietly waiting. I think this is the only reason for this situation. Accurately waiting for growth.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: pellor mas on June 08, 2018, 04:22:38 PM The Crypto market lately operates under a lot of influence, unfortunately that it seems to no longer operate on the legitimate market forces of demand and supply to determine value and price
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ismelda_ita on June 08, 2018, 04:26:09 PM I think yes. they are able to manipulate the crypto market because the assets they own are numerous. so they are able to pump and dump for a short time
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: dmamigo on June 08, 2018, 04:47:45 PM Whales manipulation is obvious to happen and is happening still now. I don't think this will ever stop, I believe the the sudden crash is also due to the whales to some extent. This is also making the market more alive and fluctuating but dangerous. Newbie traders are loosing as hell. The market is decentralized so outer force will obviously have hands on market movements.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: DonFacundo on June 08, 2018, 04:58:18 PM Possible the whales are manipulating the market, who knows maybe those whales behind this down in the market and add some panic sellers that can down more the price of crypto.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ArnoldChippy on June 08, 2018, 05:05:40 PM Of course they do. I think it is not possible for a single whale now but when they combines in groups then they really effect the market, we can see some groups of whales who are working combine and manipulate the market, i think that when bitcoin will become more popular hopefully then their influence on market will decrease too much. They have the capability power to do so. If you have an amount big enough to manipulate price according to your very own liking - lower it to hoard more coins or make it higher to sell them off, you can make the value in the current time period favorable on you which means more money and more profit, if you hold an immense amount or is able to influence a lot of people, most likely that you are profit-bound. And manipulating the market gets you quite the profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: detector on June 08, 2018, 05:41:24 PM That's the disadvantage for using bitcoin because their value depend on supply and demand.
Let's think if bitcoin owner that played from 2010 hold most of his bitcoin and want to sell all of them , today ! You will see bitcoin decrease without being expect ! Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: AlisaWhishie on June 08, 2018, 06:34:49 PM To me it is obvious that they do so, but still they are not some club or group of people, who work together, instead of it each of them has his own goals, so all pumps and dumps are just their games with each other. There's not something bad, as in the end we all have the same desire: to multiply our investments.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: asabed256 on June 08, 2018, 06:42:37 PM I don't think the current market status has a lot to do with whales manipulating the markets. Whales can manipulate the market, yes! But too much "artificial" manipulation can lead to the severest form of FUDs which might deter new crypto investors. I bet the whales don't want that to happen.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: crisanto01 on June 08, 2018, 07:46:07 PM I don't think the current market status has a lot to do with whales manipulating the markets. Whales can manipulate the market, yes! But too much "artificial" manipulation can lead to the severest form of FUDs which might deter new crypto investors. I bet the whales don't want that to happen. Indeed! a lot of whales are manipulating it but we cannot do something about it at the moment since that is their way of earning and it is their advantage because they believe in it so much, so if we really believe in it too then we must know how they works or how they play the market by studying their action. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Babylon on June 08, 2018, 07:55:17 PM Well maybe they are manipulating the market by crashing it little by little and buying some while others are at panic mode,
Maybe they are using their money to control the price and to be honest I think they are even earning daily profit from it, Just imagine how much you have earned from your day trade and how much could they earn with their huge amount of money if they do the day trade. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: DewaJudi03 on June 08, 2018, 08:05:17 PM it is true, whales can play in the market, because they have a lot of money so they can raise and lower the sales volume of coins at will.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Visbay on June 09, 2018, 10:51:11 PM Hi guys , I think that too, but we need to be patience and right timing when to buy and sell our bitcoin because this kind of scenario is very common it crypto world and beside bitcoin is very volatile so better to hold our bitcoin and wait until it become profitable again.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: darkangel020716 on June 09, 2018, 11:02:30 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Bitcoin price now is at its low, better go get it or regret it. whales are always there since the beginning, you just need to watch the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: oegarod on June 09, 2018, 11:07:23 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Bitcoin price now is at its low, better go get it or regret it. whales are always there since the beginning, you just need to watch the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: samcrypto on June 09, 2018, 11:25:19 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Bitcoin price now is at its low, better go get it or regret it. whales are always there since the beginning, you just need to watch the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: wewe123 on June 09, 2018, 11:57:43 PM We can not say that the whales in crypto will manipulate the market , there maybe a time the whale would silently manipulate also the market , because they have the high net worth in cryptos in which they have the power to change the trend of the market , for they will or command changes in the stocks of the market whenever they would like to change it because of their capital invested in cryptos.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: blogardianz on June 10, 2018, 12:14:16 AM Yes., I think they manipulating it. But unfortunately, I don't have any proof about that.
Actually, if I see the market chart, sometimes I see unusual pumping to make the price up. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sclmte on June 10, 2018, 12:51:42 AM Yes., I think they manipulating it. But unfortunately, I don't have any proof about that. Though we can say that they are manipulating market prices but seems to be not bad at all. In fact, they just helping crypto starters to build their investment in here and don't make big losses. Anyway, isn't the only reason of having price fluctuation but also FUD's created by some group of people which could only lead them for misunderstanding the prospect of crypto in the community.Actually, if I see the market chart, sometimes I see unusual pumping to make the price up. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Sadlife on June 10, 2018, 01:28:40 AM That could be possibly cause ive read some articles that's discussing a large amount of spoof(fake) trading volumes are being transact in exchange/trading sites in order to manipulate the market to make a bullish or bearish run. That's why the US government is regulating exchanges and investigating it's past transactions.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Chrisjay29 on June 10, 2018, 02:44:03 AM I think yes.. whales manipulate the price of crypto. Because if a whale buy on that coin with a huge amount. There are big chances that coin will be pump because of hia investment with huge amount. But if the whales decide to sell it it will dump. Remember huge amount sell can lead to dump coin..
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: AK47- on June 10, 2018, 03:45:19 AM There are no second thoughts in it. This market is heavily manipulated by Whales and that is why new investors are so afraid to enter this market.
I keep conducting surveys at my end to know why other friends and colleagues of mine are not entering this market and this is the exact reason they give that the market is too volatile and they are not willing to risk their investments. That is why the total market cap has been falling. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mriansa on June 10, 2018, 05:29:02 AM the whale that has a lot of capital will drive the bitcoin price, you can take the example of the currently defined whale is mtgox when he sells bitcoin that bitcoin will collapse because the bitcoin is very much owned.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: DMCR lah on June 10, 2018, 05:42:31 AM I can not imagine the 'whale' does not have anything better than manipulating the market. There may be coordinated pumps or dumps (which can be achieved with relatively small amounts of money in this market), but not every price movement is caused by whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MrRiuss on June 10, 2018, 06:53:07 AM yes, if you want to say that. but they do it in the smart way. its hard to prove that.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on June 10, 2018, 07:52:01 AM Not really . I think this still affects someone who sells their assets in large quantities in good market conditions and gets a chance from there.
while the market's desire to keep rising is still strong and sellers may also hold their coins. there comes a time when the coin keeps decreasing and the demand for bitcoin increases. it's happened a lot. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: udonmez on June 10, 2018, 07:55:54 AM their affect is decreasing in major coins however they can easily manipulate low volume coins. Each day they are getting more professional so tracking them is getting harder day by day.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: zoeylee on June 10, 2018, 08:08:27 AM Hi guys , I think not only the whales are controlling the price of bitcoin, it can be some government and those people that against this bitcoin who created FUD to spread bad news. Although whales will be a big factor on the price manipulation as they can dumps bigger amount of bitcoin to down the price and buyback once the weak hands sell their coins and make the whales get easy money from the weak hands.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: webdevmastery on June 10, 2018, 08:15:33 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales or big holders cannot sell their coins because it will make their coin crash, every developers know that and i do not think that they will sell a huge amount in the market since it will destroy their own business. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ricardobs on June 11, 2018, 05:01:58 AM Absolutely yes, that's why the market in volatility and a total decline. Moreover, The whales ( capitalists ) always manipulating the prices of the whole market especially Bitcoin, because everything is linked or related to the king BTC, when the wales sell a large amounts of Bitcoin, then all the market will fall, so there is a relation between the best cryptourreny (BTC) and the followers ( like, Ethereum, Ripple, Litecoin....). Yes, whales are manipulating the market, we know that investments are taking place in large quantity and this will benefit the market of Bitcoin which in turn will benefit investors or users. These more investments contribute to the market of Bitcoin and will raise its value which will expand the value. Besides large whales even the low investments are also contributing which are very necessary.As a matter of fact, I think there are some goals of the capitalists, maybe when the market will fall with a huge value, then they will re-buy again a different crytocurrencies and at that moment, the majority of coins will rise with an acceptable value (Big pump ) . so the only appropriate choice in this bad situation is Holding, and if you want a big profit, be patient and wait for the good surprise. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hsyncl on June 11, 2018, 05:08:31 AM They are completely influential. If there were no bales, be sure that the market we were in was at least 5 times more valuable. All the men want is to make money for what they want to do. The market has collapsed, not in their care, certainly.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Siren on June 11, 2018, 05:24:17 AM I don't think the current market status has a lot to do with whales manipulating the markets. Whales can manipulate the market, yes! But too much "artificial" manipulation can lead to the severest form of FUDs which might deter new crypto investors. I bet the whales don't want that to happen. Indeed! a lot of whales are manipulating it but we cannot do something about it at the moment since that is their way of earning and it is their advantage because they believe in it so much, so if we really believe in it too then we must know how they works or how they play the market by studying their action. This is total manipulation,they are the one whos creating fud spreading fake news so they will have reason to bring the market down so cheap prices is what they can have Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Pinoyfan on June 11, 2018, 05:56:10 AM Hi guys , Yes that is their job to manipulate their market tokens. Manipulating the price of the tokens thats why trading now are so unpredictable. Im so upset that the whales are existing and whales now are so huge so no one can stop them. Cryptocurrency whales nowadays are so aggressive they want all of the money so they are so aggressiveDo you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: nightways on June 12, 2018, 07:42:42 AM Yes! I so think so too. Whales actually control the prices of crypto currency by buying and selling at the most opportune time. Then again, it's also our fault for letting coins be available in the market. We should always hold and buy more so we take the control from the whales. Let's just stop panic selling and actually invest on crypto currency Of course they do, I believe they are the reason the price of Bitcoinkeeps on fluctuating up and down. We do know that the price of Bitcoin is volatile, but if everyone ismaking normal investment I don’t think it will fluctuate that much like it does.It’s due to the whales that are putting in heavy amount of money to make the price go up and down so they can make profit out of it. Well, if not volatility, what else could be the fun of investing in Bitcoin. At least we make profit from the Hodl. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: terencio on June 12, 2018, 07:58:31 AM Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price. Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: btcrich2020 on June 12, 2018, 08:07:12 AM Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price. Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin. Yes, every person who is negative about the Bitcoin will always spread negative news towards the investors. Most of the people will not bother about the positive news about the Bitcoin, negative news will spread more fastly compared to positive. This makes people panic about the Bitcoin price. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sergiom on June 12, 2018, 03:53:09 PM I think yes, earning big money, what they need and only that. They are doing everything they want on the market at any time. This is not very honest.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: satriagedhe on June 12, 2018, 04:04:20 PM maybe yes maybe not , its can be yes if every whales do it togther , hard to do just by 1-5 whale
need coordinate to manipulate like that Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Kevin77 on June 13, 2018, 12:09:04 PM Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price. Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin. Whales most especially are always the ones using the other methods to manipulate the market. One way they create FUD or FOMO in the market, and since they are always going to be at advantage due to their position, then it makes it so easy for them to do their thing.I believe a lot of things will change over time, and possibly we may get to see how things eventually end up turning out, but for now, I guess we will have to just keep accepting what we have and living with it, but whales really manipulate the market a lot and sometimes, I always feel they do not even use sense in doing so, since all they are after anyway is to make huge gains and they bother less about the growth of the space. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: squog on June 13, 2018, 12:13:52 PM I'm pretty sure the reason a whale will actually manipulate a market is of course for money. Buy a boat load of coins when the market is low and sell it when the market is high anf do it all over again. It's actually a good strategy. Another reason maybe is to discredit the market entirely and discourage the small investors to go forward.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: AjithBtc on June 13, 2018, 12:17:35 PM I'm pretty sure the reason a whale will actually manipulate a market is of course for money. Buy a boat load of coins when the market is low and sell it when the market is high anf do it all over again. It's actually a good strategy. Another reason maybe is to discredit the market entirely and discourage the small investors to go forward. I too have the same thought, because right now there is no big levels of FUD or negative news around the globe related to cryptocurrency. Whales were the one who has got the ability to manipulate and at present they were the sole reason for the ongoing price decrease to such extent downwards.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PerLasz on June 13, 2018, 12:27:34 PM I think yes, whales have important role for this price downfall and of course of its rising. Whales can do whatever they want, wherever they want to direct the flows of crypto price specially if they are united to do things accurately and timely.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: CryptoGirl.y on June 13, 2018, 02:10:03 PM Undoubtedly, whales are present on the market, especially on such a market that is as illiquid as bitcoins. Their presence can be seen on the charts of exchanges and in orders.
I hope that the kines will not push the price to 3,000, otherwise it will be very hard for many. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: yazman on June 13, 2018, 02:20:16 PM the whale that has a lot of capital will drive the bitcoin price, you can take the example of the currently defined whale is mtgox when he sells bitcoin that bitcoin will collapse because the bitcoin is very much owned.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 13, 2018, 02:54:55 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes, I do think that whales manipulate the market. I had been holding the opposite opinion for a long time but finally I came to conclusion that regular people with from $200 to $2,000 worth of Bitcoin in their possession can't be the ones whose actions (either selling or buying) affect the market. Indeed it's whales making money on fluctuations plus collecting additional crypto when it's cheap in order to become even more whaley. Also I think that so called "panic selling" doesn't contribute to the price dropping because the amount of BTC they, taken together, can sell is insignificant compared to that of just couple of whales. I realized all of that after analyzing what was happening to BTC in 2013. If Bitcoin existence was really dependant from those panic sellers, Bitcoin would die already. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: btc78 on June 13, 2018, 02:57:21 PM Hi guys , Even if they do manipulates the market still we cant do anything about that,and this will only make us hard feelings when loss,why not just adapt with whats the trend and for me this manipulation is one good thing to take advantaage for profit because this trend is better for daytrading process and the important thing is to find the right coin to byDo you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: enisshkurti on June 13, 2018, 03:12:25 PM Probably yest the market movers are on the move again, to decrease the price and to buy when it is cheap so they can make again profits, because they are aware of future of cryptocurrency
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ernoo on June 13, 2018, 04:18:24 PM I am sure, whales are manipuulatating, it is just too easy to do in this unregulated market. No doubt, that they are the ones, who earn the most in this high volatility crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: coynedterm on June 13, 2018, 04:58:47 PM Hi guys , Yes , but not everytime because they are not those types of the person who are always ready to do do such works where people getting out forever , but they create some fear to make Thier own profit in small amounts .Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Here beside of the manipulation by the whales in this , there are another factors that are big reason of the dump of the price of the bitcoin .A big reason Is that many people without using Thier own money , they create a type of fake news and spread over the whole market and that Results into dump of the coins much . So here we can't consider only single factor for the increment of dump in the market of bitcoin and another cryptourrency . And also in these days I am seeing that lots of negative news are spreading by the news media , even a single step by the government of any particular country becomes a news for the news media and they will say that Soon the government will ban bitcoin , really a shit media . Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: tylerderden on June 13, 2018, 05:15:31 PM Hi guys , Everyone has their own theories and their proofs but having such an influence on such a big market is not at all possible for a few people as this requires a huge amount of money for dumping and pumping the market which can only be done by a large group of people but the people are greedy when it comes to money so to control such a large group it will be pretty difficult and also trust is also a major factor in play here. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Harrisonimo on June 13, 2018, 05:38:31 PM I have always thought and opinionated that there are external forces that dictates the market trends and much more to favour themselves. Definitely, there are Whalers who majorly have a significant role in the bitcoin dip and pump which is part of the external factors affecting the bitcoin present price value.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: spyerf on June 13, 2018, 05:56:08 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? yes it is possible, and as such it is a common trick that big whales do to control the market and make a profit. but that may be because more and more of the altcoins are appearing in the marketplace so that holders spread their investments in each altcoin. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Kola on June 13, 2018, 05:58:35 PM Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't?
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Faxmate on June 13, 2018, 08:55:52 PM Probably yest the market movers are on the move again, to decrease the price and to buy when it is cheap so they can make again profits, because they are aware of future of cryptocurrency Yeah it is gonna be high once again and all those people are now aware of bitcoin nature who have been against bitcoin in past, we should buy bitcoin now and hold it, those who are there to manipulate the market will try to get their own profit they won’t stop for you, but I think bitcoin will be higher in price, no need to sell at panic just wait and watch how high price will get in future so just hold with patience you will end up earning so high.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: laravuemaster on June 13, 2018, 09:04:44 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales cannot manipulate the market because they might destroy their own coin if they will sell a huge amount of the coins they are holding but it will only happen if the ico is a scam or they are just planning to milk the investors. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Superways on June 13, 2018, 09:12:10 PM Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't? Yes at the first half of the year I also noticed that the market becomes silent and after the month of June the price of bitcoin start to increase. It is only a slight drop in the price and will not be a permanent and will last sooner within a day or two and after that the price of bitcoin will again start to increase. When a rise start now then it will continue till the end of the year which will adopt much higher value in the end. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 14, 2018, 07:22:56 AM Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't? Yes at the first half of the year I also noticed that the market becomes silent and after the month of June the price of bitcoin start to increase. It is only a slight drop in the price and will not be a permanent and will last sooner within a day or two and after that the price of bitcoin will again start to increase. When a rise start now then it will continue till the end of the year which will adopt much higher value in the end. A huge selling can kill a relatively unknown coin, but not Bitcoin with its over 5 billion USD current daily trading volume. Too much people trust BTC already to let it die so easily. Whenever price goes down big time, there are a lot of buyers appear and the price start rising again. Of course it's easier for the whales to buy coins when it looks like "the end is nigh" because they know for sure that there will be no end. Regular people continue panic selling and end up partially losing their investments, always regretting not holding some time later. Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Stac on June 14, 2018, 07:42:17 AM In any financial markets the markets will not remain constant and the prices keeps on fluctuating but in crypto currency market there is volatility and so no one will be able to predict the crypto currency market as there is a huge leap in the market when there is a hike in the market and due to hacking attacks the markets plunge like if we compare to last year's price, the price of bitcoins has hit the highest level of $ 19300 USD and now the current price of bitcoins is around $ 6000 USD which shows a massive change in the price variations. Hackers are one of the reasons for manipulating the price difference.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sheenshane on June 14, 2018, 07:52:12 AM -snip- I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price. Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision. Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales? I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sultanGol on June 14, 2018, 04:44:14 PM The liquidity is still low in the crypto market, the volatirity is crazy high compare to other investments available. Easy playground to whales I guess :) In a couple years, I think this can change in the good direction.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mahilchii on June 14, 2018, 05:05:05 PM Yeah, that is true. The whales are always manipulating the market in crypto field and the currency share market. There is always some whales present in any field to dominate the price market and crypto also has the same kind of pressure from whales. If they decide to raise, then they raise. If they decide to pull down price, yes they will pull down.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: $anounimus$ on June 14, 2018, 05:08:32 PM yes you're right it seems that whales do often manipulate prices in exchange places you can see it from when there is some good news and bad news for cryptocurrency there will be whales trying to make many people panic so it will be easy to move the price in the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: yanesna3 on June 14, 2018, 05:10:35 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Bitcoin price now is at its low, better go get it or regret it. whales are always there since the beginning, you just need to watch the market. The richest Bitcoin holders that have concentrated most of BTC in their hands, can start selling the crypto, and the price of it will fall. It happens very often. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: privedvelosiped on June 14, 2018, 05:25:29 PM Clearly, the price of bitcoin depends on the manipulation of whales and large investors. If the exchange was more reliable to store money, the less investors sold now bitcoins. And as a result, the price would not fall
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BelieveInBTC on June 14, 2018, 05:41:29 PM Nothing has changed in the last few months. The price is still low due to massive FUD and probably because of price manipulation. Whales can still afford dumping Bitcoin whenever they feel like it. It will take a lot of time for the cryptocurrency market to become resistant to such acts. Give Bitcoin and crypto community some time to rethink a few things.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Hero of Legendary on June 14, 2018, 05:41:46 PM So far that is what I have on my mind because they have that capability to control the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: barota on June 14, 2018, 06:20:02 PM yes; the market is like a whale control it ... These changes all the time and instability not good
the whale is a winner , Whether prices are high or low Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sureshotcoin on June 14, 2018, 07:32:23 PM actually the every bitcoin investor feel whales are manipulating the market every investor believe in this way with or without proof but govt is also investigating on price manipulation so market is now downtrend every one will have similar doubts
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Stavri on June 14, 2018, 07:32:28 PM There is no doubt about it. They manipulate for sure. They do it to earn more. They do it to collect cheaper and sell for higher price. They even pay to publish stupid news about some altcoins to manipulate.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: inquirybanjoE on June 14, 2018, 07:41:12 PM I dont know but i remember that some guys from wall street bought in at 4000$. Lets say this is all connected to the future market then yes i could see some manipulation happening. Difficult to prove.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Angna27 on June 15, 2018, 03:44:38 AM Hi guys , Yeah, this is one factor to manipulating the markets sad but true, they are businessman, they need profit, if many people buy or use altcoins i think this manipulating is not problem. Businessman need profit so they need to earn profit whatever cause.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 15, 2018, 05:34:14 AM Clearly, the price of bitcoin depends on the manipulation of whales and large investors. If the exchange was more reliable to store money, the less investors sold now bitcoins. And as a result, the price would not fall Before it wasn't like that until these whales figured it out that they can play with the market.And what's causing the dramatic fall of bitcoin now isn't only because of these whales, there's a combined effect from bitcoin futures, bad news and FUDs. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ivandu on June 15, 2018, 05:35:01 AM Hi guys , Yeah, this is one factor to manipulating the markets sad but true, they are businessman, they need profit, if many people buy or use altcoins i think this manipulating is not problem. Businessman need profit so they need to earn profit whatever cause.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Rooster101 on June 15, 2018, 07:11:10 AM The recent hacking of a Korean cryptocurrency exchange caused the price of the bitcoin to go down and some negative events like FUDs can also contributes to the downtrend of the bitcoin. These so called whales or price manipulators are just part of the system that contributes to the price trends of any cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jademacoy on June 15, 2018, 07:18:38 AM Yes these whales are sometimes bothersome to which they are earning good profit even if they are doing day trading since they had a good investment in the market. Meaning to say these whales are huge investors and even in a small scale percentage of earning they can get a good profit on it because of their huge investment. Some are creating a pool of investors to get also the moment to manipulate bitcoin market price by day trading.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: xAnima on June 15, 2018, 07:40:30 AM I think not because if Whales are really controlling the market, then those day-by-day-traders would not spend their time trading if they knew that it is controlled or even manipulated. Maybe the one's who control the market are those who uses them in need because they are demanding and supplying the needs of the markets.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nichao on June 15, 2018, 08:34:56 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Of course they manipulate the market - they have money and bitcoins for it, and they can get money. I'm afraid, almost 80% of price volatility is because of whales... Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kabelpeggek on June 15, 2018, 09:02:02 AM With bitcoin's market capitalization that big, i believe that whales do have big share on them so if some of these whales will move their bitcoin, then it can surely affect the cryptomarket as bitcoin's market value will also fluctuates.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: TontomHit on June 15, 2018, 12:39:09 PM We all know, that they do manipulate the market, and until now, it looked like, there is nothing we can do about it. However, the CFTC investigation, announced a couple days ago, may will have some positive effects. It is said, it was the main reason of the recent price drop.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: paparexon0414 on June 15, 2018, 01:01:00 PM I also been thinking about it. Bitcoin is really unstable now that its unstability is kinda not normal (so fast to decline and so fast to rise). If ever this is true, its so sad that people who are buying small amount of bitcoin suffer the most. Its like the poor is becoming more poor and the rich is becoming richer. But we cant do anything about it, they use a lot of money (which really they can afford to buy a lot of coins) just to take advantage of this situation (im not saying this is a fact)
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Gheka on June 15, 2018, 01:02:51 PM The recent hacking of a Korean cryptocurrency exchange caused the price of the bitcoin to go down and some negative events like FUDs can also contributes to the downtrend of the bitcoin. These so called whales or price manipulators are just part of the system that contributes to the price trends of any cryptocurrency. Personally, I think whales contribute a lot to the downward trend of crypto, it is not only a part as you say, there is no accurate and specific evidence of negative news, I doubt that this is an arrangement from the whale, perhaps they are trying to create the largest wave in the history of crypto. Not only that, they also associate with the exchange sites, this is very clear when the web exchange reacts very quickly to changes in price, from there, we can see the manipulation of the whale is very terrible, it is not as simple as we imagine.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Black Angel on June 15, 2018, 02:51:15 PM I'm not sure they can do that, right now there are thousands of exchanges and millions of users, it is impossible for whales to manipulate the price because the stocks in exchanges are pure.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: LogitechMouse on June 15, 2018, 02:54:40 PM In my opinion, I think whales are manipulating the markets. They have many money so they can do whatever they want. As we can see, it doesnt go above 10k$ and this is probably caused by the whales.
Aside from whales, FUDS are affecting the prices too. FUDS greatly affect prices especially when it came from a popular website. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: weblouartisan on June 15, 2018, 02:57:05 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whale's will never manipulate the market because they all knew that selling a huge amount of their own ico tokens will make the price to drop and every investors will be highly affected but if the ico is a scam then they will really use the advantage to earn more profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: XCANA on June 15, 2018, 03:20:58 PM Well, not the down fall of the market is as a result of 'whales' activities since they have other things doing aside from market manipulation and it is only serious pump and dump that I believe is influence by the 'whale'.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: maydna on June 15, 2018, 04:06:08 PM I think they can do this because they have a big money and they are capable to do this but I don't think that the whales will do this in the market because I think they want to make a big profit too. and if somehow, they can make a profit from manipulating the market, then they will do this with ease. but I am sure that there are whales that will not do this and they only want to see the market is on the green sign so they can always make the profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: isidrorex on June 15, 2018, 04:22:35 PM Yes, I really believe that these whales are or can manipulate the market price of a certain coin. Because of the high-volume of their share on that coin, they can just easily play the market price and they can use that as their advantage and for a possible more profit for these whales. And for us to be able to make profit also, we have to study the price movement and do our Technical Analysis very well.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Soots on June 15, 2018, 05:07:43 PM Whales, Traders and governments controls the markets, and deploy differing tactics in able to move the markets, some even such as fake news, it is all happening right now. I am sure Whales have more to do that sit on a trading platform all day but they probably have some fun there, sometimes... Actually we don't have enough information and evidence to make this statement correct. However I believe that maybe in some points the statement above is true about the whales referring to the huge traders and some rich mens and governments. But please let's dont forget that the ups and downs of coins in crypto is normal the crypto market was never been stable even before it changes its price every now and then we all know that the demand and supply was the reason. So maybe they have something to do with that but I can't conclude without further information and details.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sepeda karat on June 15, 2018, 05:36:46 PM I think A lot of whales are manipulating the market, some people actually try to do it and think they can manipulate even though they are manipulated.
Whales have acquired a large amount of bitcoin that if they decide to hold it, it can contribute a lot in market prices. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gowobonyok on June 15, 2018, 05:44:38 PM I always think that whales manipulates by buying a lot when the price is still low and makes the market cap change and the price will go up. when that happens, then they will sell all their assets without any purchase again, and make the price down.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: crazyavdik on June 15, 2018, 05:50:30 PM Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price. Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MAJICOIN on June 15, 2018, 05:57:08 PM Whales are the market movers and they have done much changes due to their strong hold and because they have large holding of the specific coin so they have manipulate the market from one side to the other side like the sudden changes in price because of demand and supply.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: maraclariss14 on June 15, 2018, 07:05:42 PM I also been thinking about it. Bitcoin is really unstable now that its unstability is kinda not normal (so fast to decline and so fast to rise). If ever this is true, its so sad that people who are buying small amount of bitcoin suffer the most. Its like the poor is becoming more poor and the rich is becoming richer. But we cant do anything about it, they use a lot of money (which really they can afford to buy a lot of coins) just to take advantage of this situation (im not saying this is a fact) Yes, the whales are always manipulating the markets, its always been like that ever since I started in crypto, the cause of bitcoin downtrend is the speculations of some people as well as the media behind those fake news about bitcoin downfall and end of crypto currency , it is impossible to think it that way because of sudden decrease in market, it is not the end of crypto currency or the bitcoin itself, remember last year is the same scenario and until now the bitcoin is still alive. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: localcrypto on June 15, 2018, 07:15:50 PM wall street investors are manipulating the market in large and whales too have large proportion of funds to manipulate the market in one side we can see the bull market when market responds to positive news
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BitcoinMarketer39 on June 15, 2018, 07:28:47 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales should not manipulate the market because selling a huge amount of coins coming from their own ico will dump the price of their own and the project will just become a fail, if the developer is serious about their project then those whales will not sell their coins. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kateryana81 on June 16, 2018, 06:51:22 AM So far that is what I have on my mind because they have that capability to control the market. Yeah you are right. Whales are the big investors and they hold the big quantity of bitcoin and they are able to affect the price and they are doing so. Due to huge investment they manipulate the market and thus earn huge profits according to their well. They have no care about the rest of investors they are making profits or losing money. They only think of themselves.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 16, 2018, 08:58:18 AM -snip- I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price. Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision. Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales? I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price. I think the main lever for manipulating the price is not spreading a FUD news because only regular users(not whales) can be affected by that. And when regular users start selling, this actually has almost no impact on the market and thus can't ignite massive panic selling. What the whales do is they start selling themselves. Only when the whales are selling the price falling is becoming noticeable and only after that the massive panic selling starts. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: CleverOracle on June 16, 2018, 09:14:54 AM It is possible for the whales to manipulate the market as far as I remember there is an on-going investigation about these issue, they called as coordinated whales who allegedly trying to manipulate the market of Cryptocurrency because they hold large of amount of the coins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: wozzek23 on June 16, 2018, 11:33:59 AM The price of Bitcoin can be manipulated, but if you ask some people they will tell you that it is a lie that it can’t be manipulated, these are also the same people that will also tell you later that the price of Bitcoin is determined by the rate of demand and that it’s volatile, causing confusion here and there😏😏. The price of Bitcoin can be manipulated, but only by the whales or maybe a group of people who’s got what it takes.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Funeral Wreaths on June 16, 2018, 12:05:49 PM -snip- I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price. Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision. Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales? I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price. I think the main lever for manipulating the price is not spreading a FUD news because only regular users(not whales) can be affected by that. And when regular users start selling, this actually has almost no impact on the market and thus can't ignite massive panic selling. What the whales do is they start selling themselves. Only when the whales are selling the price falling is becoming noticeable and only after that the massive panic selling starts. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: katiecbell on June 16, 2018, 12:14:51 PM You can see the price has dropped, it is all as a result of withdrawals. The bulls are the ones that moves the market a lot and we follow. It takes a lot of money to control the cryptocurrency market and not just anyone can do that except if you’re very rich.
Lol, if I have a lot of money I will manipulate the market too and recover every loss I have made😂😂😂. Since the price has dropped to $6k, I don’t know where we are heading next, but I believe that before the end of this year we will hit a huge price rate , that’s for sure☺🙂 Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: JPS2K5 on June 16, 2018, 12:22:42 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? One of the factors of price volatility of cryptocurrency is the law of demand and supply. Alternative Coins price varies with these law, when the supply is low and demand is high, then technically, the price will go high. That in inverse in the different way either. So in connection with the whales, these persons have power through money which they can totally but a lot of altcoins when the market in on correction or dip. And with that action they have, market price and capitalization will totally go up because as what we know, they are whales. This could be the truth, but we do not know that yet. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: maxreish on June 16, 2018, 12:38:49 PM Maybe they are on the back of falling prices of the bitcoin in the market, but we do not have a sufficient basis to prove for what we believe and we don't have enough ability to prevent them, the only thing that we can do now is go on with the flow.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: 0t3p0t on June 16, 2018, 12:51:55 PM Hi guys , It is possible for them to manipulate the market and seems like people are now aware of this strategy though we can't really tell when they will buy back so that we can go with the flow. Newcomers and those with weak hands are still in trouble nowadays because of the sudden change of prices. If only I got a lot of money to invest now I will surely buy some. Maybe I have to wait for a good timing the next time they will be playing the market so that I can be having a good harvest.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Nasty23 on June 16, 2018, 01:28:46 PM Hi guys , It is possible for them to manipulate the market and seems like people are now aware of this strategy though we can't really tell when they will buy back so that we can go with the flow. Newcomers and those with weak hands are still in trouble nowadays because of the sudden change of prices. If only I got a lot of money to invest now I will surely buy some. Maybe I have to wait for a good timing the next time they will be playing the market so that I can be having a good harvest.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PoolDrive on June 16, 2018, 01:36:44 PM In some extent, definitely
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: SkustaClee on June 16, 2018, 01:40:05 PM Actually, the manipulation in the cryptocurrency market is really happening! I believe the reason why there are pumps and dumps are because of the whales in the cryptocurrency. Whales are the most powerful person here in the cryptocurrency market that can manipulate the prices.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: shinchan123 on June 16, 2018, 01:55:46 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I think they do, whales are holding a lot of money and crypto, so I think with them dumping or buying can greatly increase or decrease the market demand and the price of a coin or token. That's why some are waiting for whales to buy for them to make a good investment. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 16, 2018, 03:37:41 PM -snip- I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price. Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision. Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales? I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price. I think the main lever for manipulating the price is not spreading a FUD news because only regular users(not whales) can be affected by that. And when regular users start selling, this actually has almost no impact on the market and thus can't ignite massive panic selling. What the whales do is they start selling themselves. Only when the whales are selling the price falling is becoming noticeable and only after that the massive panic selling starts. Whales don't panic at all, that was my point. They sell intentionally to lower the price. When the price is low enough, in their opinion, they start buying as much as they can. Obviously, it's impossible to buy a lot of coins at low price because it starts rising when whales are making their bulk buys. That's why they start selling again to lower it, and on and on, so it's a loop process in a way? and that's what is called manipulation. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PhucS on June 16, 2018, 06:16:22 PM Hi guys , This is also one of the problems that I'm wondering. It seems that the whale is manipulating the price of the market, so the market always follows their will. I think that filled is also the concern of many others. Along with the negative news appearing every day, it made Bitcoin have a lot of fluctuations and the value dropped sharply. However, we are still not sure whether whale groups manipulate the market, all is just predictable.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: satriagedhe on June 17, 2018, 08:28:36 AM its posible to do , but need more than 5 -10 whale to do that , if there any community when all whale together i think it really possible
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BurakTurk on June 17, 2018, 08:42:05 AM I'm not sure they can do that, right now there are thousands of exchanges and millions of users, it is impossible for whales to manipulate the price because the stocks in exchanges are pure.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Strongball on June 18, 2018, 01:48:49 PM There might be an indirect way for that to happen but for sure Whales and their transactions
have made big significant impacts on the market. With that in mind, the influence they harbor and initiate ripples all throughout, maybe that's why prices vary and dips often occurs. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Blondy12 on June 18, 2018, 04:26:50 PM While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them. I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7. There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. I am sorry mate but i need to disagree with you. Whales have the power to manipulate the market though we cannot blame it all to them. Weak hands but not a bigtime investors has nothing to do with the dropping but the whales does. We need to accept reality the even the richiest people still want to have more of what they already have while the mid or lower class need to suffer even if how hard they tried to succeed. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Gdra467 on June 18, 2018, 10:41:29 PM While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them. I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7. There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales. Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too. I am sorry mate but i need to disagree with you. Whales have the power to manipulate the market though we cannot blame it all to them. Weak hands but not a bigtime investors has nothing to do with the dropping but the whales does. We need to accept reality the even the richiest people still want to have more of what they already have while the mid or lower class need to suffer even if how hard they tried to succeed. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: parlament9 on June 18, 2018, 11:04:51 PM definitely, so-called "Whales" exist, but quite another matter what games they play.
Everything is much more difficult, than you think, all occurs not only on 10k, but for each $100-200 without speaking about 1000. These are very difficult questions, also as well as conspiracy of these "whales", nobody will tell you it for certain. I am not a whale, I won't tell))) Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jonval21 on June 19, 2018, 01:20:05 AM I think whales can manipulate the market because the market is still small. but if every body use bitcoin will be harder to manipulated. but with must aware another way to manipulate the market with fake news.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: entrepmind23 on June 19, 2018, 01:55:42 AM I think whales can manipulate the market because the market is still small. but if every body use bitcoin will be harder to manipulated. but with must aware another way to manipulate the market with fake news. Market is manipulated by whales not just the crypto market but the traditional market as well. They manipulate it not just in terms of accumulating with small amounts and then dump it when the price goes higher but they are the one handling the media and news as well so that they can time when they wanted to release a news to help them make the price higher or they want to make it lower to buy more. I think that whales are manipulating the market today, we see today the rapidly rising and falling prices that are not natural in the market. Maybe if these whales disappear we will see a steady price increase. They wouldn't disappear because whales are always there and besides, for every market, there is a market maker so that the coin would always have a volume and keep the market active. These price manipulation is tackled by one of the youtubers who is datadash and explain the different kinds of manipulation. You can watch it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8ZM8GkThg&t=8s Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Shinpako09 on June 19, 2018, 01:59:09 AM If you were here for how many years you will also have a theory like that and for me, it's for real. They are so called whales, group of bitcoiners that hold decent amount of btc, mainly from China or so they say. They won't call them like that if they don't have the ability to manipulate the price. They can pump and dump if they want.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: LKingLion on June 19, 2018, 02:03:03 AM I think whale's are the reasoning person behind Bitcoin or the market pricing now. They can do manipulating for they have power to do so for they hold huge bitcoin. I hope they will make the market turn to green again to give hope the hopeless for profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Coinsher on June 19, 2018, 02:29:29 AM Hi guys , There is a possiblity that they could manipulate the price of bitcoins because they have the chance to do it but as long as there are no evidence that will point them, it is still a speculation. And also, this kind of situation in the crypto market certainly happen in the early and mid quarter of the year. I'm sure it will increased again in the last quarter. Same as what happen in 2017. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ronafurw on June 19, 2018, 07:46:58 AM Hi guys , I think so. If not, why would they say that the price of Bitcoin is being determined by the rate of investment? If it is being determined by the rate of investment that means that anyone can put in a very huge amount of money, maybe up to a million dollars, to move or pump the price, and once it’s up they will immediately withdraw the money which result to what we all call a dump. So it is possible that whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: nightways on June 19, 2018, 09:20:01 AM Hi guys , Yes that is their job to manipulate their market tokens. Manipulating the price of the tokens thats why trading now are so unpredictable. Im so upset that the whales are existing and whales now are so huge so no one can stop them. Cryptocurrency whales nowadays are so aggressive they want all of the money so they are so aggressiveDo you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 19, 2018, 09:52:35 AM If you were here for how many years you will also have a theory like that and for me, it's for real. They are so called whales, group of bitcoiners that hold decent amount of btc, mainly from China or so they say. They won't call them like that if they don't have the ability to manipulate the price. They can pump and dump if they want. I agree, it's like you said for now, but I'm sure this situation will change in the future. The whales will not be holding their coins forever intact, they need some other currencies (fiat ones) to spend in real life. Yes, they earn that due to manipulations these days, ending up with the same amount of BTC as before plus some good amount of fiat. Basically they exploit stupidity of panic sellers today, but I'm sure that people will not stay this stupid for long. And beginning from that time when most regular holders will stop being affected by FUD, whales will start selling their coins without getting them back afterwards. And then I think in 2-3 years max the situation will change dramatically: we'll have much less coins collected in the hands of whales and much more in the wallets of small investors. Manipulations will almost stop then. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: super5star on June 19, 2018, 10:23:35 AM I don't think the current market status has a lot to do with whales manipulating the markets. Whales can manipulate the market, yes! But too much "artificial" manipulation can lead to the severest form of FUDs which might deter new crypto investors. I bet the whales don't want that to happen. Indeed! a lot of whales are manipulating it but we cannot do something about it at the moment since that is their way of earning and it is their advantage because they believe in it so much, so if we really believe in it too then we must know how they works or how they play the market by studying their action. This is total manipulation,they are the one whos creating fud spreading fake news so they will have reason to bring the market down so cheap prices is what they can have Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Lorence.xD on June 19, 2018, 10:37:47 AM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys. The whales behind the manipulation of the market price value, will never know? Some expert say that, but until today we have no concrete data to confirmed this issue, Anyway, there a lot more concrete indicators that possibly influenced the market trading, like the issue on Banned, Scammer, Opposition to Bitcoin by some financial institution, issue on Regulation which very critical on Bitcoin digital transaction, the behavior of the investors on the day to day transaction whether on Buying and Selling, all of this affects the market price value of crypto not only on Bitcoin but almost all of ALT coin posted on the treed. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: dark08 on June 19, 2018, 10:52:32 AM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys. The whales behind the manipulation of the market price value, will never know? Some expert say that, but until today we have no concrete data to confirmed this issue, Anyway, there a lot more concrete indicators that possibly influenced the market trading, like the issue on Banned, Scammer, Opposition to Bitcoin by some financial institution, issue on Regulation which very critical on Bitcoin digital transaction, the behavior of the investors on the day to day transaction whether on Buying and Selling, all of this affects the market price value of crypto not only on Bitcoin but almost all of ALT coin posted on the treed. Absolutely right sir we have no concrete data or analyzation if big whale can manipulate the price all I can see the demand of the coin can gain a huge pump up in a short period of time, some expert and bitcoiner believe that big whale can manipulate the price all idea can be happen. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bummm on June 19, 2018, 01:27:12 PM yes you're right it seems that whales do often manipulate prices in exchange places you can see it from when there is some good news and bad news for cryptocurrency there will be whales trying to make many people panic so it will be easy to move the price in the market. Of course, they do it constantly. They can easily change the situations in the market when they start to sell all of their actives or, vice versa, buy a lot. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Harrow30 on June 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Of course, the Whales do have a major role to play in the pumping on some markets. I did first experience it last year with the bitcoin red having it with a sharp increase being pumped within some few hours. They control the markets to the direction they want it to be most of the time. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: furkantugra on June 19, 2018, 03:49:21 PM the whale that has a lot of capital will drive the bitcoin price, you can take the example of the currently defined whale is mtgox when he sells bitcoin that bitcoin will collapse because the bitcoin is very much owned.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bitgolden on June 19, 2018, 05:14:57 PM Yes! I so think so too. Whales actually control the prices of crypto currency by buying and selling at the most opportune time. Then again, it's also our fault for letting coins be available in the market. We should always hold and buy more so we take the control from the whales. Let's just stop panic selling and actually invest on crypto currency Of course they do, I believe they are the reason the price of Bitcoinkeeps on fluctuating up and down. We do know that the price of Bitcoin is volatile, but if everyone ismaking normal investment I don’t think it will fluctuate that much like it does.It’s due to the whales that are putting in heavy amount of money to make the price go up and down so they can make profit out of it. Well, if not volatility, what else could be the fun of investing in Bitcoin. At least we make profit from the Hodl. The whales always control the market to how they want it for their own gains. Some may not understand how it works, but it is a way for them to send signals to traders in the market either to buy or sell after they must have made substantial gain from accumulating or distributing respectively. It is even easier in a decentralized market, where the market cap is a lot low and that gives them more chance to accumulate for the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: beej on June 19, 2018, 05:28:13 PM There might be an indirect way for that to happen but for sure Whales and their transactions have made big significant impacts on the market. With that in mind, the influence they harbor and initiate ripples all throughout, maybe that's why prices vary and dips often occurs. I agree to some degree here, since whales do make the biggest investments in the market. You see them in trade sites and platforms, they can dump it all and observe how events such as that radically changes things in the market instantly. They are the major players in this business and industry, what they do next affects the whole flow and Cryptocurrency ecosystem. Whether we like it or not, essentially they truly are the true power house and key players here. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Snaic on June 20, 2018, 06:03:04 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: b_oo on June 20, 2018, 06:05:13 AM I was trying to buy a coin, but whenever I inserted a price, in a fraction of a second a slightly better price would pop up. If I do nothing, then nothing, but as soon as I beat it, fraction of a second again.
So I think it's more than just whales. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: lelangsabun on June 20, 2018, 06:24:41 AM not sure about it, but it seems when they have a big stack on it their movment will getting followed by itself with another fish, so sure it can being manipulated
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: knightmairesaint on June 20, 2018, 09:14:30 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more. Whales could really manipulate the market especially if they have the money for it and we are not talking about small amount. This had happened before, whales could help in making the price of bitcoin higher by buying so they could also do the opposite which is making the price dump by selling. But it is also not right to blame it all at them for the kind of market which we have can be affected by many factors like @Snaic mentioned.This dumping and pumping of the price only proves that the market is alive but I think that the market is healthier when there are small fluctuations because there is a balance in selling and buying. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mornabo on June 20, 2018, 10:08:44 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more. Yeah we know that there are a lot of things that affect the crypto market, but I think whales really have a big effect on the market, we know they have thousands of bitcoins in their wallets, they can make a hoax news, lots of speculation, etc. thus affecting the marketTitle: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BD Money365 on June 20, 2018, 10:22:05 AM Yes I think the whales are manupulating the market.they just want their benefit.they again and again manupulate market and they again and again earn profit.The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales.they have million million dollars bitcoin.So they all time manupulate market and earn more.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gamalzour on June 21, 2018, 10:49:21 AM I think whales can manipulate the market because the market is still small. but if every body use bitcoin will be harder to manipulated. but with must aware another way to manipulate the market with fake news. Yes, big whales are manipulating the market if more investments take place with huge amount then the market price will increase and this is what we want that people invest with huge amount so that the graph if price increases. Price manipulates in this way and the other main important thing is the promotions of Bitcoin which is a key to attract people to introduce it.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Liberto on June 21, 2018, 10:54:26 AM Those whales are something mystique, so everybody knows, that they exist but nobody have not seen them, so I decided for myself not to think about whales, but work and do what I can do.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Hazaki on June 22, 2018, 05:38:33 PM Even tho i think that the whales are playing a big role in the major pumps and dumps that are happening every once in a while , yet i don't think that all the hips and dips that the market goes through is because of them because these people won't be orchestrating a highly coordinated moves and putting billions of dollars on stake for some mood swings or over a few hundred dollars of worth per coin because that is simply not worth doing .
Moreover , we have seen the market falling many times just because of FUD , and i don't think that the whales are behind that too even if they practically can , yet once again fake crashing the market too many times won't be in their favor . Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: voztata on June 23, 2018, 05:41:04 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more. Whales could really manipulate the market especially if they have the money for it and we are not talking about small amount. This had happened before, whales could help in making the price of bitcoin higher by buying so they could also do the opposite which is making the price dump by selling. But it is also not right to blame it all at them for the kind of market which we have can be affected by many factors like @Snaic mentioned.This dumping and pumping of the price only proves that the market is alive but I think that the market is healthier when there are small fluctuations because there is a balance in selling and buying. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: A L I E N on June 23, 2018, 09:24:16 AM not sure about it, but it seems when they have a big stack on it their movment will getting followed by itself with another fish, so sure it can being manipulated The whales can manipulate the crypto market easily. They hold more than 95% of all the cryptocurrencies in their hands. When they start selling the crypto, the market falls. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: JackdunR on June 23, 2018, 10:06:50 AM Now that the coin is down, perhaps the whale they are manipulating the market, is deliberately selling the altcoin to the market so that prices fall to the lowest possible then buy and push up prices.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Remedios19 on June 23, 2018, 10:33:15 AM Yes, I think this is the case. Someone is behind this price dump.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: spartanrules on June 23, 2018, 10:44:43 AM Personally I think that initially the drop in the price of bitcoin was caused by the manipulation of whales, aimed at an artificially lower price. However, in the future, with about $ 9,000, the decline was supported by market participants, who are guided by the fear of loss.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hashshashin on June 23, 2018, 10:50:53 AM The market of crypto-currency depends on many factors, and it's not a secret that people with huge capital can manipulate the market and influence the prices of crypto-currencies. We just need to choose the right strategy, in this or that situation and follow certain rules.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 23, 2018, 11:24:40 AM It can happen since the whales are the one who got a lot of bitcoins or capital in the market and they can make a fake pump or dump in order to fool the other traders or investors that they should buy or sell, depending on the situation and once they noticed enough volume of orders in the market then they will secure their profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Firdausiii on June 23, 2018, 02:27:15 PM We have to accept the reality even the richest people still want to have more of what they already have while the middle or lower class must suffer even if they strive to succeed. But I have to disagree with you. Whales have the power to manipulate the market even though we can not blame them all. A weak hand but not a big investor has nothing to do with dropping but the whales do not
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: doublecoins on June 23, 2018, 04:04:34 PM whales are manipulating the markets in large as per the market conditions we can see large sell orders of bitcoin this can happen when a group of large investors keeps selling bitcoins to create panic
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: arctic circle on June 23, 2018, 08:48:51 PM I believe that's true to some extent. If you possess a substantial amount of some crypto you can indeed manipulate the market. However, it will most likely be only a temporary effect.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Otsu on June 23, 2018, 09:20:06 PM Well, we don't have 100% sure that this kind of people are manipulating the price of all cryptocurrencies but there is a possiblity that they did this. I mean, they can control it because they have the capabilities to do it and changed the flow of crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kateycoin on June 23, 2018, 09:24:02 PM Hi guys , Maybe sometimes whales manipulating the crypto market because some people are panicking they sell it there holding so whales grab the opportunity to buy it. That's why we don't need to be panic because you give a profit to whales when you sell your funds in low price.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MMA on June 23, 2018, 09:50:39 PM Hi guys , Maybe sometimes whales manipulating the crypto market because some people are panicking they sell it there holding so whales grab the opportunity to buy it. That's why we don't need to be panic because you give a profit to whales when you sell your funds in low price.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: randyboy on June 23, 2018, 09:55:44 PM Maybe? because the whales are the big investors and investors can manipulate the value of bitcoin of other crypto currencies so maybe whales can do it to pump it again or they just spread the fud to purchase in cheapest price.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: samcoin on June 23, 2018, 10:05:25 PM I think there is a manipulation, you get it when Bitcoin loses $1000 of its value in just 24 hours, that happened several times, in addition, Bitcoin and other crypto currencies markets are easy to manipulate using fake news as a lot of new traders don't have enough experience or they got in during the hype.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: suzanogbomo on June 23, 2018, 10:07:51 PM Whales have always been guilty of market manipulation of certain tokens. What surprise me is that they make have been able to do that to bitcoin and as such crashed the entire market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: darkphoenix2610 on June 23, 2018, 11:36:43 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. Whales has always been manipulating the prices in the market, they are always doing that in the past few years, that's why the market is so volatile, it changes every time , there are also the big dumpers, the panic sellers , the weak holders of the potential coins and alts, it make cost the market to fall because of this kind of people in this industry. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PoolDrive on June 25, 2018, 12:07:24 AM Its widely known that there are s
bump&dump schemes with some altcoins. So definitely yes Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gnarledoak on June 25, 2018, 01:47:58 AM If the futures market had the same leverage it had in December throughout 2018, the price chart of bitcoin should have had demonstrated similar volatility and intensified downward movements. But, bitcoin suffered three major corrections in 2018, and each successive correction recorded lower sell volumes and drops.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ngacengan on June 25, 2018, 03:31:23 AM it seems that maybe it could be the price whales manipulation by utilizing some news in their media to make the price of bitcoin down and up with capital like whales then it could happen. no one can defeat the whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: coinfinger on June 25, 2018, 06:04:47 AM Even tho i think that the whales are playing a big role in the major pumps and dumps that are happening every once in a while , yet i don't think that all the hips and dips that the market goes through is because of them because these people won't be orchestrating a highly coordinated moves and putting billions of dollars on stake for some mood swings or over a few hundred dollars of worth per coin because that is simply not worth doing . I have also decided the same because we don’t know them in detail and there is no need think about them. There is nothing to worry about whales because we could not control them in any way. We don’t have money enough for competing them. They have so many bitcoin beyond over limits. We better focus on our goals and profits rather than worrying about something that is not in our hands. Moreover , we have seen the market falling many times just because of FUD , and i don't think that the whales are behind that too even if they practically can , yet once again fake crashing the market too many times won't be in their favor . Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: miningguru on June 25, 2018, 06:11:35 AM Possible chances are there because sometimes within a short period of time the coins will start increasing their prices. Yes, whales will manipulate the market according to their benefits because most people will panic when the price starts decreasing. So they will grab the low valued coins in the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Chrisjay29 on June 25, 2018, 09:50:03 AM yeah maybe the whales manipulating the price of market. because got huge money to invest and to sell. if there someone who invest to a one currency with a huge amount there big peobability that token gonna pump because someone buy huge amount and if someone will sell it will immediately dump thats the nature of market
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: barbara44 on June 25, 2018, 11:22:51 AM Hi guys , Maybe sometimes whales manipulating the crypto market because some people are panicking they sell it there holding so whales grab the opportunity to buy it. That's why we don't need to be panic because you give a profit to whales when you sell your funds in low price.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Neraj Evad on June 25, 2018, 11:46:22 AM I can not say that the whales truly are manipulating the market, but I think the whales are a great factors of the price market volatility.,because the whales have huge capital, so this big groups might be the factors that cause the rise and fall of market price value.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: aTriz on June 26, 2018, 02:53:48 PM So far that is what I have on my mind because they have that capability to control the market. Yeah I am sure not thinking that whales are manipulating the market and they have great influence over the crypto market and the price as well. In these days people think that the fall in the price is because of them and when they want the price will grow again. This is the worst thing in crypto market and avoids new investors to put their money in bitcoin.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on June 26, 2018, 03:58:39 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Such a situation is very probable, but it is difficult to state unequivocally. Certainly someone or a group with large amounts of money is able to influence what is happening on the market. However, proving this with 100% certainty will not be easy. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Liberto on June 27, 2018, 09:37:45 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more. Yes I agree to the whales is far not the only thing that afects the price, so they can manipulate but they are not 100% effective, bitcoin prices depending on so many things. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sushizhe on June 27, 2018, 09:46:29 AM More than one whale, I think this market is being manipulated by a group of whales. At present we can see that whenever the market turns green, it immediately returns to red. These are the masterpieces of whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Altf4 on June 27, 2018, 10:26:57 AM The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more. Yes I agree to the whales is far not the only thing that afects the price, so they can manipulate but they are not 100% effective, bitcoin prices depending on so many things. I think that whales are not manipulating the narket but they are considered one of the factors that make the price value of the market changes every now and then, but there are aldo factors that affect the volatility of the coin in the market place. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: redsun114 on June 27, 2018, 10:33:03 AM Hi guys , Maybe sometimes whales manipulating the crypto market because some people are panicking they sell it there holding so whales grab the opportunity to buy it. That's why we don't need to be panic because you give a profit to whales when you sell your funds in low price.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: sserge009 on June 27, 2018, 11:50:53 AM of course they manipulate the market or in any case try to do it. the current drop in prices I personally associate with the desire of new institutional players to enter the crypto market "cheap way"
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: tesmark07 on June 27, 2018, 01:55:24 PM There is a possibility of manipulation over bitcoins.
But we need to stay focus and avoid negative thinking. Because all we want is more profits. Whales in this kind of industry are very rare. I think the main man who are responsible for this unstable value are the one who against to BTC or cryptocurrencies. Because they hired some groups to crashed down the operation of bitcoin and uses fakes news or advertisement. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Inikoo on June 27, 2018, 03:58:21 PM Whale manipulation is one of the main reason I think, that the market had such a big drops in a very short time lately. Too bad there is nothing we can do about it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: reinielle26 on June 27, 2018, 04:11:25 PM Well, we don't have 100% sure that this kind of people are manipulating the price of all cryptocurrencies but there is a possiblity that they did this. I mean, they can control it because they have the capabilities to do it and changed the flow of crypto market. I agree, we are not sure about these speculations but there is a possibility that these are true. Lets not get swayed by them and just wait until bitcoin price increase and rise again. And even if they can manipulate the price dont let them manipulate you. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: bitlind on June 27, 2018, 04:52:42 PM Yes, I think so, but I think they are not doing that continuously just from case to case. So whenever they want to buy, they can contribute some how to dump strategy. And vice versa.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hastang on June 27, 2018, 05:02:06 PM in some cases i would say yes! intentionally or unintentionally, this whales have the own the marketcap necause they have huge money that place in the market. any movement of that money would surely affect the marketprice. we as a small player, should be keep our attention to the whales because if we ride their moves we certainly get huge profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Vs225655 on June 27, 2018, 05:05:37 PM Quite right opinion. But what about me here played not only the factor that you spoke about, but this is what most countries prohibit the crypto currency + even the summer now most people rest it, respectively, worry less on the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PrintMule on June 27, 2018, 05:25:34 PM I think there is no economic sector that whales do not manipulate, probably not . many stock exchanges and various manipulators, in our words "whales" have been doing these works for years already.Manipulation in many countries is a criminal act in the capital market and there is a penalty of money and imprisonment.. Manipulation hinders the transparency and openness of the market, and therefore affects investors' confidence in the negative.
even under all these conditions, whales like these exist in every economic environment, unfortunately. and in our bitcoin world there are unfortunately also such formations. they will probably continue to be in the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: microbb8 on June 27, 2018, 05:29:42 PM Of course whales manipulate the market. Usual traders can only ride on the waves.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Gameroid on June 27, 2018, 05:41:09 PM Whale manipulation is one of the main reason I think, that the market had such a big drops in a very short time lately. Too bad there is nothing we can do about it. Whales always remain active in crypto market they not only try to manipulate bitcoin but also trying to manipulate other crypto currencies, from where they can get their maximum benefits, I think that there are so much possibilities that even in current time the whales may be manipulating the market which is causing so much dept in bitcoin market, Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: florinigna on June 27, 2018, 05:47:45 PM Manipulation is highest in case of alt coins. In case of bitcoins, most of the amount is with early adopters only.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Karmakid on June 27, 2018, 06:05:10 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I agree with you. There are really whales who manipulate the market because they are capable of doing so. We can't deny the fact that there are really whales behind the votality and changing value of the market. Some may take this as an opportunity to maximize their gain. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ignatova on June 27, 2018, 06:21:19 PM Yes, they are certainly manipulating the market and it is very common in case of new coins. Coins like BTC and ETH are very much safe from this.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: maydna on June 28, 2018, 08:42:33 AM it could be like that because they have a big amount of bitcoin and once they sell their bitcoin, the price directly to go down too deep and they already have money to buy back at the lower price. maybe this is happening over and over and we cannot do anything except following with them and we only hope that we can make a profit too like them. I think this is not just happening in the crypto market but also happens in the other market so we need to check the market before we do something.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: NewRanger on June 28, 2018, 08:49:13 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I agree with you. There are really whales who manipulate the market because they are capable of doing so. We can't deny the fact that there are really whales behind the votality and changing value of the market. Some may take this as an opportunity to maximize their gain. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: LianaSie on June 28, 2018, 09:04:37 AM Low liquidity was always a problem in the crípto world, and now, that the volume is even lower, whales can easily influence the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: adolf512 on June 28, 2018, 01:06:01 PM Hi guys , I also believe that whales can manipulate prices in the crypto currency market in their own interests, for profit. Too many unexplained and incomprehensible things are happening in the market of crypto-currencies.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Liberto on June 28, 2018, 01:08:21 PM I think they are doing this from time to time, but also I think they are not doing this constantly, because not all the times are beneficial for them, so when they want to sell or buy, only in that case they start to manipulate.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Betwrong on June 28, 2018, 01:20:48 PM I think there is no economic sector that whales do not manipulate, probably not . many stock exchanges and various manipulators, in our words "whales" have been doing these works for years already.Manipulation in many countries is a criminal act in the capital market and there is a penalty of money and imprisonment.. Manipulation hinders the transparency and openness of the market, and therefore affects investors' confidence in the negative. even under all these conditions, whales like these exist in every economic environment, unfortunately. and in our bitcoin world there are unfortunately also such formations. they will probably continue to be in the future. They are obviously here, but not for long. With wider adoption coins will migrate into hands of millions of regular people and the whales will lose their power. That's when big fluctuations will stop, coins will become much more stable, and the price of them will go only one way from then on, up. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: margaret22 on June 28, 2018, 02:18:50 PM They can manipulate for sure, and earn a lot of money with it. We see, this market still has to grow a lot, to be able to shot out the effect of whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: djgtr on June 28, 2018, 02:22:34 PM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. That is true that their are a lot of spectaculations but it becomes true to life because of the advantages that we can see. Bitcoin price will surely be high in price because it has a lot of investors who wanted to invest. Well they have seen that the market is huge enough to gain and save profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: noictib on June 28, 2018, 02:51:40 PM Hi guys , I think this is truth , because many times I found the same thing that what you are saying , when I was in the starting of the field of the cryptocurrency in year 2012 then that time speculation of the cryptocurrency market was easy and it was normal for us to make predictions about the price of the altcoins and bitcoin also .Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? But now big whales are not as we're earlier , they are doing big manipulation and stealing the money from the small traders by creating fear . They are not only creating fud in the cryptocurrency market but they also use Thier own bulk amount of money power to moverl the market according to what they want and make lots of money and also Thier work forces small traders to quite from this field . Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: daturit on June 29, 2018, 10:02:29 AM All kind of markets are manipulated and it is normally. Just imagine that you have very much money and you decide to buy bitcoins I mean if you buy quite big amount you change current price sufficiently and in this case you are a person who manipulates a market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Hamstead on June 29, 2018, 10:25:23 AM We can't prove someone doing this but its pretty obvious that it is already happen. They are called the real player in the market today due to its huge capital invested in crypto, definitely they have such power to manipulate us and taking control of prices in the market. We can't stop them actually, cause we even don't know who they are in person.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: budakjawa on June 29, 2018, 11:54:14 AM yes it seems that it does happen that whales prefer to manipulate the price of cryptocurrency coin in the exchange because they have so much capital that they can free them to play around with the price.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: fabrizoc on July 02, 2018, 07:58:52 AM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. That is true that their are a lot of spectaculations but it becomes true to life because of the advantages that we can see. Bitcoin price will surely be high in price because it has a lot of investors who wanted to invest. Well they have seen that the market is huge enough to gain and save profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: katerinaliisa on July 02, 2018, 11:02:39 AM It seems to me that whales manipulate the market. However, I do not think that this is total
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: liivii on July 02, 2018, 11:19:08 AM I'm not really sure maybe the big time investors together with the miners can truly manipulate the market if they like but I don't mind them instead I'm focusing more on earning coins in the market even there are rumors of crypto fall down. I know in myself that one day cryto market will recover its system and rises again together with the poeple who supports it. Manipulating crypto is really hard to believe but there's still a chance for those people who own large value of market coins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: boyshx on July 02, 2018, 12:54:50 PM of course they manipulate the market or in any case try to do it. the current drop in prices I personally associate with the desire of new institutional players to enter the crypto market "cheap way" Thats fairly correct. The current market is in power play where they want to manipulate the rates, make too cheap and get into the market easily for higher profits that will be followed once the price starts to recover back. The manipulation has always been there since the first day. No matter what happens they will do it all the time for their own use. The question is why wouldn't they do it if the market is completely running on public ledger and the very first principle was to use this system freely, with you are the owner of your money attitude. So yeah it is manipulative. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: FreakSau on July 02, 2018, 02:38:49 PM It seems to me that whales manipulate the market. However, I do not think that this is total Not only whales, some government want to control crypto market also Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Bosx1ne on July 02, 2018, 02:54:06 PM Hi guys , It currently happening, the whales can manipulate the cryptocurrency markets because they have power. They have a lot of money that can easily pump or dump specific cryptocurrency. The dump occurring nowadays are because of the whales in the market. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BigDig on July 02, 2018, 03:17:28 PM Of course, whales try to manipulate market. after 2017 everyone has already realized that crypto is the future. The problem arose at the stage of entering the market. in connection with this, we are witnessing such a fall in prices for the last six months.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ToniJu on July 02, 2018, 04:08:48 PM Obviously, this year's cryptocurrency market is being manipulated by whales. They keep depressing prices so they can buy coins at a cheaper price. Once they have accumulated enough chips, the pump will start.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: goodfortune2018 on July 02, 2018, 04:42:33 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? May be they are creating that kind of strategy to benefit their own they just playing the money of many people who invested in cryptocurrency market that's why i really support the regulation of cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: petronus on July 02, 2018, 05:20:25 PM I once thought whales were price manipulation. have a lot of money and assets so they can lower and raise prices as they see fit. it makes a loss for the beginner trader.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: TechnoBibble on July 02, 2018, 07:01:43 PM I think whale's are the reasoning person behind Bitcoin or the market pricing now. They can do manipulating for they have power to do so for they hold huge bitcoin. I hope they will make the market turn to green again to give hope the hopeless for profit.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: andrei56 on July 02, 2018, 10:05:09 PM Hi guys , The whales are manipulating the market but it seems at least to me that their influence is not as big as we may think, the whales by themselves cannot really move the market for a long period of time this is why they take advantage of the circumstances, they either wait for strong FUD to come or they wait for a positive news from the developers to try to move the price.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: stellgod on July 03, 2018, 05:50:47 AM They are doing it since forever. If you believe in bitcoin what you and everybody else who believes too should do is to wait a few years because there has been voices ,just speculation that bitcoin price will be stable at 40.000 dollars in 2019 to 2020. It is worth waiting a few years to get a considerable amount of money from your investment. This is also a very good time to buy bitcoin so do it if you can. That is true that their are a lot of spectaculations but it becomes true to life because of the advantages that we can see. Bitcoin price will surely be high in price because it has a lot of investors who wanted to invest. Well they have seen that the market is huge enough to gain and save profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kalawang on July 03, 2018, 05:56:18 AM Hi guys , The first is that bitcoin and technology in your life that bitcoin and technology in this way, the market. I believe the bible can be great. I do not sure kung exact na, the future. I believe the future of cryptocurrency is a kind, but I believe right now, but its value. Cause I support cryptocurrency even though,Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: andika2018 on July 03, 2018, 07:39:36 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales with large amount money can do that. Its free market and anybody can move market price if they have large capital. Maybe whales can manipulates price but if holder keep their coin and not selling their coin, I am believe whales can not do anything to manipulate price Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Ewinsane on July 03, 2018, 08:11:49 AM Hi guys , I don’t know how many of you guys are hodlers here, lol. If you’re into Hodl you will get to understand that the sweet thing about Hodl is when the price is fluctuating up and down. If the price remains stable, there is no way you’re making any profit at all. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? The only way you can make profit is when the price is going and down and you know how to use your skills in managing it and cutting loss when you’re supposed to. And to answer your question, whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Sled on July 03, 2018, 11:25:57 AM I know that the whales can manipulate the market but for me, it doesn't make me think that whales are manipulating the market because the market is still being driven by the law of supply and demand and that is the main reason why the market is moving and not purely because of the whales because if the whales are manipulating the market that much then people will abandon that market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Clemcout on July 04, 2018, 07:31:20 AM I know that the whales can manipulate the market but for me, it doesn't make me think that whales are manipulating the market because the market is still being driven by the law of supply and demand and that is the main reason why the market is moving and not purely because of the whales because if the whales are manipulating the market that much then people will abandon that market. I do agree stable prices will not give much profit but risk is also with too much movement in prices. Too much volatility in the prices is sometimes not so good as people are unable to make correct moves for getting the profit. Only experience traders can benefit from here.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Batman_Bitman on July 05, 2018, 10:00:27 AM I think whale's are the reasoning person behind Bitcoin or the market pricing now. They can do manipulating for they have power to do so for they hold huge bitcoin. I hope they will make the market turn to green again to give hope the hopeless for profit. Not only in crypto market but in every business of the world whales are the worst people because they never let small investors to make money. They hold the market and suck innocent people. They only think of their selves and do not care for other people. They have monopoly in this market and the keys of fall and rise are in their hands. This develops disappointment in small investors.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: KorakPawon on July 05, 2018, 10:17:14 AM I also had time to think that whether this decline is a market manipulation so that in the future it can boost or price bubble, because when many people sell, for fear of losing their money is bigger, and the time comes for the price to go up and normal. but I also do not know it is just my mercy.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Liberto on July 05, 2018, 10:40:25 AM I know that the whales can manipulate the market but for me, it doesn't make me think that whales are manipulating the market because the market is still being driven by the law of supply and demand and that is the main reason why the market is moving and not purely because of the whales because if the whales are manipulating the market that much then people will abandon that market. Good answer. Just like you are doing you're saying and nothing else no matter. It corrects because if you will listen and be influenced of the manipulator, you will never get profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: nabinkhadka on July 05, 2018, 10:53:47 AM This market i think is always in the hands of whale , because of it's low volume as compared to other financial sectors its quite easy to manipulate. manipulation is a crime and should be regulated accordingly. if it's not stopped crypto is doomed.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: rainezerr on July 05, 2018, 11:33:48 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes they are manipulating the market, millionaires are just waiting for the market prices to dump even more in order for them to invest a huge amount and earn more profit in the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BitcoinMarketer39 on July 05, 2018, 11:43:14 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? In my own opinion, those whales are not manipulating the market prices because if a developer who is holding a huge amount of coins will sell their tokens then definitely the market price will drop. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: kiboloves on July 05, 2018, 11:46:29 AM There must be whale in the market. I think those big exchanges are the biggest whale. They always release FUD with the media and let the market panic in a short time.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Btcepenbob on July 05, 2018, 12:04:42 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I also think that there are individuals who is manipulating the current market. It is truly controversial which the way I see it is already a grave problem in cryptocurrency market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jackylion on July 05, 2018, 12:20:19 PM Yes. I still think so, and they will pump in the market again in the next few months, now the best thing we should do is patiently wait and hold the coin.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: roadwell890 on July 05, 2018, 12:32:58 PM I think they are not just controlling the price at 10k only, but they also do the BTC price dump
even if the BTC touches the price of 5000 USD, it will be very many people who buy BTC with a large amount including the whales Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jayyen on July 05, 2018, 01:26:54 PM I strongly believe that the market is seriously manipulated .Because the sharp rise and fall happens so fast.How can a market become stable and in the next hour ,things will change and become so bad that there fear and panic everywhere.Some powers are surely behind it .
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: mahilchii on July 05, 2018, 01:34:42 PM Certainly yes, whales always manipulate the markets. They not only manioulate crypto currency market but they manipulate share market as well. They intervene and try to control all the currency related markets to make control of that and earn huge profit demolishing the small traders and medium traders in the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ecnalubma on July 05, 2018, 03:02:19 PM Hi guys , It is business and they're everywhere once they saw opportunity there's no chance that they will miss it. If your fainthearted with the current market situation get out! declaring yourself a victim. Believe me they are the biggest scammers in the world.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: cryptoalfs76 on July 05, 2018, 03:25:00 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Actually this is the mindset of the people or the small entrepreneurs in this community,that the one who control or manipulating the movement of bitcoin price value is those the group that we called the big whales,definetly we dont have much evidence about this speculation,even in my own knowledge thats this i learned and i heard,coming from those my mentor and people of thos community,and i believe what they are saying,because they are the first on this community,thats why my faith also is the big whales the one manipulate all the ups and down of cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: BitDiv on July 05, 2018, 03:27:57 PM I'm not sure about this. I think whales (big institutions) can only create crypto news but as result price will soar to new highs.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: solkinsolali on July 05, 2018, 03:32:07 PM I also think this too. There is a very big possibility of the whales manipulating the prices due to their high influence as they control a very large share of the coins and consequently the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: isidrorex on July 05, 2018, 03:42:49 PM Yes, I strongly believe that these crypto whales are manipulating the market price of a certain coin and they can use that ablitiy to manipulate the market for their own advantage which they can have a chance to have a bigger profit if they manipulated the market price correctly and the way that they want. But also, thanks to these whales for they also share their profits to us we ride to the wave and if we just trade correctly.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: fanBit101 on July 05, 2018, 03:54:10 PM I think whales are a big part of the price. But not all are right. Recent moves, like natural responses, stem from the investor psychology and the bitcoin-holding community. After the information about FUDs was spread and the assertions of the bitcoin exchanges were hacked. That affects the current price dropping. However, the market still shows signs of recovery after that.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gunungkembar on July 05, 2018, 04:01:55 PM yes of course at this time a lot of whales are trying to manipulate bitcoin prices because I see the current bitcoin price movement is not too much anymore and is very vulnerable to fall.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 05, 2018, 04:23:46 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? They do it all the time and it's obvious by now. BTC dropped to 6k, they bought cheap coins and now they're going to pump it up again to 10-20k and dump everything and we'll go in a circle. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: DgurJIupyf on July 05, 2018, 04:31:37 PM In this matter, I'm just sure that whales and people with several thousand bitcoins can influence the price of bitcoin. On his course of falling and rising. Also, I am sure that when the exchange of currencies is once again hacked, the price of bitcoin falls . It's been many times. Therefore, those who have a lot of bitcoins, they are co-investors of a large large pile of money, which is very much dependent on them. Even miners do not affect it so much....
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Valer4ik on July 05, 2018, 05:12:58 PM we are in a situation of a long-term downtrend, and lower levels will still be ahead. Overcoming the resistance level of $ 7000 will already cause a wave of sales
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Kambal2000 on July 05, 2018, 05:24:30 PM we are in a situation of a long-term downtrend, and lower levels will still be ahead. Overcoming the resistance level of $ 7000 will already cause a wave of sales It is fine since we have benefited and earned last year so it is just normal that bitcoin is recovering too from a huge pump that happened last year so it is just normal if bitcoin had suffered so much loss or downtrend this past few months, don't worry as it will again rise up in the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Popov_popov on July 05, 2018, 05:29:50 PM It has always been that big cones are driving the market and in principle, everything can be managed.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Osarman on July 07, 2018, 07:16:25 AM Obviously, this year's cryptocurrency market is being manipulated by whales. They keep depressing prices so they can buy coins at a cheaper price. Once they have accumulated enough chips, the pump will start. And there are huge disadvantages if this happened. If either the governments or the Whales got the chance to control the technology, they are going to implement strict financial riles and some progressive taxes on the money you earn with Bitcoin. This will actually reduce the margin of the profit that you could otherwise have earned. This is the reason why some people stay away and do not invest in Bitcoin.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: henmark on July 09, 2018, 05:50:41 AM yes it seems that it does happen that whales prefer to manipulate the price of cryptocurrency coin in the exchange because they have so much capital that they can free them to play around with the price. I believe in big investments which is the reason for increase in demand rate that is what we all need for the price to go high as much as possible. We are with our invested coins which is now less in value due to the downfall and the unfavorable situations from which the market is suffering. Solution for this is the activation of price which is possible only if we invest with big amounts.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: phucngungoc on July 09, 2018, 07:06:25 AM Hi guys , I think that not only whales but sharks and trading floor owners are manipulating the market, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating and sharks are impacting so much.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? If you look closely at the small volume, the manipulation of the price becomes easier, so I think that at this point you should limit the transaction and only trade when the market goes up. And there are positive signs. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: voztata on July 10, 2018, 06:22:21 AM Hi guys , Whales can manipulate the market and they don’t do this in a way they they will get noticed. If you’re a whale you wouldn’t like the public to notice your very large orders at once cause everyone will then know that the price of bitcoin is about pump. So they don’t buy like we do, buying locally from exchanges, they do so by using what most people call the Dark Pool. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales can be a group of people people working together to own a large number of the coin. They pull out money and the price gets to a new low and then they invest back and wait for it rise and BOOM. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gameofthronne on July 10, 2018, 06:25:42 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Well, imagine if a group of whales that have many tokens start do something like that. I'm not sure 1 whale can manipulating the market, but a group of whales can manipulating the markets imo. It's like they focus on 1 token and start do trading daily makes the big volume trading and start manipulating it. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: andrei56 on July 10, 2018, 10:29:01 PM This market i think is always in the hands of whale , because of it's low volume as compared to other financial sectors its quite easy to manipulate. manipulation is a crime and should be regulated accordingly. if it's not stopped crypto is doomed. Incorrect only some types of manipulation are illegal, like the exchanges creating fake volumes or creating artificial walls or to conspire with other exchanges, all of that is illegal, but if you have a lot of coins and you sell them and the price goes down then that is just the laws of supply and demand in action and no one can accuse of anything.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: PEDROMAP on July 10, 2018, 10:33:44 PM Of course sometimes you see pumps and dumps they even annouce them, thats a fact and it happens in not only in crypto world, for exemple as you all know George Soros made his fortune doing something similar. We just have to pay attention on the charts and try to get a ride on those whales ;)
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Whosdaddy on July 11, 2018, 11:11:46 AM This market i think is always in the hands of whale , because of it's low volume as compared to other financial sectors its quite easy to manipulate. manipulation is a crime and should be regulated accordingly. if it's not stopped crypto is doomed. I believe in big investments which will manipulate the market is relevant direction if we invest with huge amounts. On the other hand it will be like an acclivity for the Bitcoin to travel with difficulty if market records less investments or investments with fewer amounts. Now days we are in a low market but we observed a little up rise in the value of Bitcoin which indicates that the demand rate has improved a little which is the result of investments. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ivandu on July 11, 2018, 11:26:11 AM Of course sometimes you see pumps and dumps they even annouce them, thats a fact and it happens in not only in crypto world, for exemple as you all know George Soros made his fortune doing something similar. We just have to pay attention on the charts and try to get a ride on those whales ;) whales or anyone need to dump and pump market.while it happen market will become more stable.large finance institution or maybe big banks usually do this to earn money by playing retail trader psychology.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: spongegar on July 11, 2018, 11:32:55 AM Bitcoin and any other crypto currencies are decentralized, meaning that no one person controls it, and it is unregulated, which means you can absolutely do anything with it. now the question of if crypto currencies being manipulated is that it is. whales or a whale buys a crap ton of coins there by pumping the price of the coin and then selling it in one go to dip the price. then again, this is just a theory and no one has actually proved it and i doubt someone will say "hey i'm a whale and i manipulate the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: GrayFullbuster on July 11, 2018, 12:13:36 PM Hi guys , Yes, whales are manipulating the cryptocurrency market. There are the one who causes pumps and dumps. Their big amount of capital are the reason why they can influence and change the price of a specific coin. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: boddy.dy on July 11, 2018, 01:52:23 PM There are a lot of chance that the whales are manipulating the market in there currently state. Well those whales are doing that thing for their own reasons. And I guess the main reason of those whales are they want to have a lot of money here. Well who in the world don't want to have a lot of money, but those whales are to wise enough that they are using their money to manipulate and by the same time having a lot or more money. Those are their advantage but somehow we also benefit with them because of them the flow and movement is consistent because for me if no movement this industry might die or lost.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 13, 2018, 11:16:36 PM we are in a situation of a long-term downtrend, and lower levels will still be ahead. Overcoming the resistance level of $ 7000 will already cause a wave of sales Some will sell as soon it reaches the 7-8k mark, just to take some money of the market, but the majority will hold at least until 10k. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: money_amount on July 13, 2018, 11:28:43 PM Currently I find the market capitalization is not really big enough to get rid of whale control. So I think the market is still controlled by whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: CuapCuap on July 14, 2018, 01:45:40 AM I think yes,
but we can't do anything. one thing we should not do is panic and follow the whales game. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: megaradux on July 14, 2018, 02:21:13 AM Well, you can look at the chart and easily see all those HUGE STRAIGHT green and red candles.
I'm so obsessed with this market. Those people are just either keeping "too much" bitcoin or aka whales, like most of us call. I dont know if they collaborate or not but the price moves way too fast in matter of hours. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 15, 2018, 08:30:23 PM Well, you can look at the chart and easily see all those HUGE STRAIGHT green and red candles. I'm so obsessed with this market. Those people are just either keeping "too much" bitcoin or aka whales, like most of us call. I dont know if they collaborate or not but the price moves way too fast in matter of hours. No whale works alone. It's not smart to work alone when you have that much power. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: darkangel020716 on July 15, 2018, 10:16:45 PM I think Whales are always been there since the beginning of crypto, not that they are manipulating but they done so much for the crypto sphere, the know the right thing to do to preserve crypto I guess.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Deubila on July 15, 2018, 10:42:32 PM Well, you can look at the chart and easily see all those HUGE STRAIGHT green and red candles. I find that the diminishing value of Bitcoin puzzles investors and analyzes the manipulation in this market of a large number of "whales" - something we often worry about when Use of tools to identify the market is not entirely accurate. So have a look at each person's investment in this market.I'm so obsessed with this market. Those people are just either keeping "too much" bitcoin or aka whales, like most of us call. I dont know if they collaborate or not but the price moves way too fast in matter of hours. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Twentyonepaylots on July 15, 2018, 11:00:19 PM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys. That's a very interesting question....In any market be it in Stock market or Crypto currency market WHALES are always behind the scene of the trading market, we really have no back and white evidence that a WHALES is manipulating the price market value of one coin. It's either they want to protect their investment or just want to protect their profits. Remember that in every investment has the same amount they put in in the market, and it is huge... Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: razzor on July 15, 2018, 11:02:21 PM Yep, it has always been like that, since day 1. and we have nothing to discuss about this, because it has always been the same. Just take in consideration this; it went from $8000 to $20,000, and then, it dropped to $5,700..
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Renampun on July 15, 2018, 11:04:27 PM based on what I'm searching for, they are a group that seeks opportunities by utilizing bad news, they will make it as if it will be fatal so as to make panic so that "Panic Sell" happens, and when the panic has begun to subside, they will again buy the Bitcoin at a very cheap price to re-raise the market price.
and right, they are responsible for the price in the market... Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: djgtr on July 15, 2018, 11:15:29 PM Many whales manipulates the market, some actually try to do it and think they can manipulate though they are themselves manipulated. But for long term prices not daily ones I don't think there is big manipulation. That is true it means their is probability that in this world cryptocurrencies will run all over the world it is because of the functions that coordinates by the bitcoiner and the usage of the bitcoin as cash and as way of payment in different areas of gaining and recognizing new ideas. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ashame on July 16, 2018, 12:00:01 AM For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys. That's a very interesting question....In any market be it in Stock market or Crypto currency market WHALES are always behind the scene of the trading market, we really have no back and white evidence that a WHALES is manipulating the price market value of one coin. It's either they want to protect their investment or just want to protect their profits. Remember that in every investment has the same amount they put in in the market, and it is huge... Yes, I think whales are always been there in the beginning of crypto those are the big investors ad speculators in this field , they live in nvesting their money in the market, also i think that they are manipulating the price in the market by dumping and raising its value. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jcarlo on July 16, 2018, 07:12:40 AM Whales have a lot resources to move market. Market drop in last several months maybe because whales manipulating market, but if peoples not panic with negative news, i think whales movement give little effect. I am believe market drop because peoples panic and make a bad move in market, whales will take this oppotunity to make profits in the future
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: trippjoeytan on July 16, 2018, 08:31:05 AM I couldn't agree more and was just having this same conversation with someone yesterday. These lulls create a nice little opportunity for the "whales" to buy, and it's pretty much the only control they have.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: johnmartinda on July 16, 2018, 09:01:57 AM Just imagine how many people panic sell whenever price goes down. So, I think whales have a great impact on cryptocurrency price.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: yohan09 on July 16, 2018, 09:31:18 AM Hi guys , \Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Bitcoin Whales are individuals or group of people who hold vast quantities of bitcoin and can sometimes sway the market towards their preferential price. There are many trading maneuver's whales use to profit like using a trading tactic commonly called the rinse and repeat cycle. The rinse trade is used in many types of market and can be effective if timed correctly and very profitable if you are a bitcoin whale, The trader with a lot of holdings start selling bitcoins lower than the market rate which at times can cause a panic sell of by small time traders. The trick is the whale sold just below the current market value and just enough to watch panic ensue. Then the whale waits and watches the panic selling takes place until the bitcoin price reaches a new low. At this point the whale scoop up way more bitcoins than they first started with and after the rinse they usually repeat this type of trade often. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: indayburakday012 on July 16, 2018, 09:40:49 AM Yes a sort of manipulation will going to happen in bitcoin market price movement. As we all know that these big whales or investors having a good amount of investments could relatively make a market price to move if they are going to sell their holdings or buy some crypto. Those investments can have a percentage on the increase that is visible to how crypto market price moves in every 30 mins. You can check to coinmarketcap.com and see how market price moves as it is being updated.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: manfredmann on July 16, 2018, 09:44:27 AM Yes these investors had a huge investment on crypto and I will agree on some members here that if those investors will going to sell their holdings probably it can be felt since there will be a huge market price fall down. It will be noticeable for that if they will sell relatively high amount of holdings.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 17, 2018, 01:26:00 PM I think Whales are always been there since the beginning of crypto, not that they are manipulating but they done so much for the crypto sphere, the know the right thing to do to preserve crypto I guess. They are present in every market and you can't change that. The only thing you can do is research and follow their actions. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ervinmadureri on July 17, 2018, 01:31:45 PM Hi guys , I'm sure you are not the only whale that is manipulating the market but also the sharks that are manipulating the market, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating in huge amplitudes and are hard to predict. At the moment, the market is bearish in the long term and the whales are pulling bitcoin to get a discharge card. Therefore, I think that at this time you should not invest long term in bitcoin and should only invest in short-term trading day to be able to minimize the risk.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: CarnagexD on July 17, 2018, 01:44:59 PM Many people beleive this is true. In general people like conspiracy theories and beleive in them. I think this is not completely untrue but on the other side the influence of whales is not that big and they can't manipulate the market in the way that they completely control the price. I think they can intiate some movements in.coordinate activities but I still beleive that Bitcoin remains independent. Market manipulation in the market was there from the start, the Whales was been participating in the huge investment for specific coin. But, all of this speculation about the market manipulation remain as haft truth for simple reason we don't know the real issue on this matter. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: digitalgame4life on July 17, 2018, 01:53:52 PM based on what I'm searching for, they are a group that seeks opportunities by utilizing bad news, they will make it as if it will be fatal so as to make panic so that "Panic Sell" happens, and when the panic has begun to subside, they will again buy the Bitcoin at a very cheap price to re-raise the market price. and right, they are responsible for the price in the market... Very true indeed, this is called coordinated FUD, they spread negative news and spread panic amongst mostly noobs that sell, besides that they have millions and billions to dump on people, its very easy, they spread FUD, dump a few hundred million dollars worth of btc, price falls, noobs get emotional and sell their coins, btc falls deeper, they than spread more FUD, and in that time they buy, if they have bought enough they spread bullish news, and so on and so on, this is what you call coordinated fud. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jackylion on July 17, 2018, 01:57:11 PM Yes. I'm thinking whales are manipulating the market today. and probably will last for the next few months. So if we wait patiently to overcome this difficult time
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: embargo on July 17, 2018, 02:54:54 PM I'm sure there are manipulations. The powerful of this world give impetus to the movement, but the crowd picks it up and carries it with the flow. Bankers are always in the black, because they control the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: MahalQu2612 on July 17, 2018, 03:11:22 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Yes, they are manipulating the market no doubts about that. That's why whales investors never loose in this business, instead always win in trading. they know what they are going to do when to set the sell wall or buy wall, where other traders like us can afford to do what they can do. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: calya on July 17, 2018, 03:21:03 PM based on what I'm searching for, they are a group that seeks opportunities by utilizing bad news, they will make it as if it will be fatal so as to make panic so that "Panic Sell" happens, and when the panic has begun to subside, they will again buy the Bitcoin at a very cheap price to re-raise the market price. whales actually big speculator that have big money to make market flare up.and they always make bad news in market to influence token holder to sell their asset.and right, they are responsible for the price in the market... Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: dongyi17 on July 17, 2018, 04:35:38 PM Hi guys , Yeah I think this is possible, some of the "BIG WHALES" control the price of altcoins, they can easy to dump or pump the market. They are business man they need profit whatever happen. I think we need to ride their tactics.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: idrisalomagold on July 17, 2018, 04:47:20 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? We cannot really say its them who manipulates the market, but then there are also speculations about it pinpointing them as suspects of too much fluctuations in market. Since the cryptocurrency market deals with law of demand and supply, then the case of whales might be true. But then, no one knows, right? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: 79b79aa8d5047da6d3XX on July 17, 2018, 05:36:03 PM I think exactly Whale is controlling the market. And these whales have power. Can change the market quickly with news about crypto. They can make the price go down and go up quickly thanks to some news that decides to market
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: siguria on July 17, 2018, 05:40:00 PM yes i think that they are doing it are manipuiating the markets evne ough i don t know if they are doing it eveytime but the point is that they are doing it.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: gunhell16 on July 17, 2018, 05:47:08 PM i dont think so, but if they will they can.
as you said they are whales. everything is possible and if you can see they can mange to put walls which is hard to break. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: HasithaM on July 17, 2018, 05:47:30 PM The Crypto showcase is recently working under bunches of impact, its deplorable that it never again appears to work on a honest to goodness advertise powers of interest and supply to decide the esteem and costs, Yes there appear to be an outside powers affecting the Bitcoin costs, A factor that isn't just uncalled for yet additionally awful as there are various individuals out there that are relying upon the flexibility and autonomy of Bitcoin yet its right now under outer impact.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hatsoff2btc on July 18, 2018, 06:46:37 AM we are in a situation of a long-term downtrend, and lower levels will still be ahead. Overcoming the resistance level of $ 7000 will already cause a wave of sales It is fine since we have benefited and earned last year so it is just normal that bitcoin is recovering too from a huge pump that happened last year so it is just normal if bitcoin had suffered so much loss or downtrend this past few months, don't worry as it will again rise up in the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 18, 2018, 06:25:23 PM whales actually big speculator that have big money to make market flare up.and they always make bad news in market to influence token holder to sell their asset. I agree, they always push the bad news about some coin and when the prices drop they buy all they can. It's interesting how much news affect crypto market as a whole. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: aburris75519 on July 18, 2018, 06:32:12 PM Marketcap volume is very small compared to the real market, so it shouldn't be too hard for whales to manipulate the market. When market volume rises to trillion dollars in a few years, manipulation can eliminate.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Bitcotalk on July 19, 2018, 06:58:54 AM Hi guys , It has been happening for a very long time, whales controlling the market up and down once they buy in lots of coins at a cheaper rate. So it’s not a new thing, but I wouldn’t recommend such to anyone or neither will I be part of such thing as crypto market manipulation. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? It’s not good for the market and will discourage future investors. That’s why people are being advised to hold their coins no matter what, cause when they are panic selling, they are making a space for the whales to come and manipulate the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: jrivera68846 on July 19, 2018, 07:18:08 AM By throwing a large number of Bitcoins on the stock exchange, they can lower its price and vice versa, buying it in large quantities can sharply raise its price. In the same way, its price can be kept in certain price ranges. Manipulating the media and their influence on people can also raise or lower the demand for cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ideya on July 19, 2018, 07:37:18 AM Yes, they are for increasing their profits. It is highest in case of alt coins and least with bitcoins.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: ershovspa on July 19, 2018, 11:52:45 PM Yes, they are for increasing their profits. It is highest in case of alt coins and least with bitcoins. They don't bother with alts, they go for BTC. Alts are just a collateral damage. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: katrimans on July 20, 2018, 07:52:05 AM we are in a situation of a long-term downtrend, and lower levels will still be ahead. Overcoming the resistance level of $ 7000 will already cause a wave of sales It is fine since we have benefited and earned last year so it is just normal that bitcoin is recovering too from a huge pump that happened last year so it is just normal if bitcoin had suffered so much loss or downtrend this past few months, don't worry as it will again rise up in the future. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: julzcoinbit on July 20, 2018, 08:09:58 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Maybe, It Is possible mate because If you notice after the bull run there was a coming a hard fork where the value will drop drastically. But not all the times of fluctuations the whales did, sometimes It because of some ordinary Investors dumping their bitcoin fund because of some purpose. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: andrei56 on July 22, 2018, 08:12:06 PM I couldn't agree more and was just having this same conversation with someone yesterday. These lulls create a nice little opportunity for the "whales" to buy, and it's pretty much the only control they have. If the weak hands did not sold their coins then the manipulation by the whales will not work many accuse the whales and I think that sometimes they are right but the ones that cause most of the movements in the market are the speculators and people that bought bitcoin or altcoins and did not understood quite well what they were doing in the first place, so if they lose money they deserve it for not trusting in the market. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: angrynerd88 on July 22, 2018, 10:33:09 PM Its true there is group of whales who dominant over the market and pump or dump for own benefit.Still no one know the next move of whales but we can reach possible results by past experience or coin charts and should take decisions accordingly.Equal distribution of wealth will take time till we act withe patience and proactive to avoid risk of loss.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Anyobsss on July 22, 2018, 10:48:57 PM Hi guys , The possibility of whales manipulating the market is really high and i think it's not new. They have been controlling the market for a long time now. Making huge profit for themselves. I thought that bitcoin will stabilize when it reached 10k usd mark but no. It has been pumping really high and crashing really low. Some may think that this is normal for the cryptocurrency since it is really volatile but it's just really suspicious how it can go high suddenly and go low. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Aveatrex on July 22, 2018, 11:59:00 PM Hi guys , The possibility of whales manipulating the market is really high and i think it's not new. They have been controlling the market for a long time now. Making huge profit for themselves. I thought that bitcoin will stabilize when it reached 10k usd mark but no. It has been pumping really high and crashing really low. Some may think that this is normal for the cryptocurrency since it is really volatile but it's just really suspicious how it can go high suddenly and go low. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Onah on July 23, 2018, 12:06:33 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales are. And they are not a myth. No matter what chart you are looking at 15m, 1hour, 1day, there are always straight up and straight down movements in just matter of seconds. Only people who hold a lot of coins can make those orders. So sad that we are just trying to make money in the market, but actually making them rich. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: waynechong1995 on July 23, 2018, 12:57:36 AM Certainly it exists, and was indeed manipulating the market, I mean why not as trading space is always risky and an organized way to turning the market is relatively easy to get richer by any other means, investor are generally predictable and some news or movement make their holdings move as well. Whales always exist when they have tons of cash in their hand
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Bellator on July 23, 2018, 01:46:19 AM Hi guys , Possibly the whales that has huge holdings of bitcoin manipulate the bitcoins prices.They can be able to do such thing because they can dump their bitcoin anytime and bought back to their wallets.They have the capability to do so..and can play the game of cryptocurrencies.Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Chrisjay29 on July 23, 2018, 02:48:44 AM Yes theres probably they manipulate it. Because if you notice if someone will sell huge amount of token the price of token will immediately go down. Thats also happen when a while invest huge amount on a token. It will pump and rise
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: darewaller on July 23, 2018, 05:13:06 AM Hi guys , Yes they do manipulate the market and I believe that last year was as a result of the whales in this business manipulating the price up and done. They wait t for us to panic sell our Bitcoins and then they will get in and buy lots of coins at a cheaper rate making the price to pump unexpectedly. Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? When people start to rush in and buy, they will wait till price gets high and then they withdraw and the price will crash with lots of people losing their money. Sometimes it’s good to cut loss🙄. If you’re not careful, you will lose profit and both the money you invested. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Carreuh on July 23, 2018, 06:30:05 AM If I do not think that anyone can manipulate the market because the market is controlled by the market participants themselves, maybe the ups and downs of the price of a coin are influenced by the amount of supply and demand and again the amount of supply available today.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: avtonomro on July 23, 2018, 06:37:33 AM They are manipulating it, ofc.
They have a great financial power, they can manipulate the market making huge sell orders and buy orders. whales did the last Dec pump and the following dump. They are slowly buying BTC back and we will see soon another bullrun. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: joey alexander on July 23, 2018, 09:21:09 AM it is correct,Whales will use a tactic called rinse and repeat, this method can be extremely profitable to a whale if timed right. The holder with a large percentage of that coins volume starts selling off lower then the market rate, which in turn causes people to start panic selling. Then the whale will watch and re-buy back in when the price of the coin reaches a new low. Then just repeats this process accumulating more wealth, more coins, and more control over that coin.
Another way a whale can manipulate the price is by using buy and sell walls. If the coin drops people will generally start to buy in at a lower price and sell when it reaches a higher price. Makes sense. A whale has to have the actual funds to create the walls on the exchange. They can stack up either buy or sell walls and watch the price when it hits exactly where they want it then BOOM the wall disappears because they have canceled that large buy or sell order. There are actual real huge buy and sell walls that are not manipulated by whales. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Btcschool on July 23, 2018, 06:58:21 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? Whales with large amount money can do that. Its free market and anybody can move market price if they have large capital. Maybe whales can manipulates price but if holder keep their coin and not selling their coin, I am believe whales can not do anything to manipulate price Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: korkyqq on July 23, 2018, 07:08:55 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? This may be true, or not. But you have a good point there. Observing the price the past 2 years, your point is very viable. Last year there was some information circling the bitcoin market, it was expected the price to go 100k but it stopped and started to fall. I'll add to your theory that not only they sell big at prices over 10k, but they flood the market with fake news about potential price growth and thus the prices rise to the desired limit, and they sell. It's a circle, and I won't be surprised if we have something like this in the months ahead of us. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: newuser20 on July 23, 2018, 08:16:44 PM For today I'm sure that the whales of the market are manipulating the crowd for making big money as long as this is possible because in the near future crypto will begin to be regulated and becomes more official ;)
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: TheGreatPython on July 26, 2018, 10:26:14 AM yes i think that they are doing it are manipuiating the markets evne ough i don t know if they are doing it eveytime but the point is that they are doing it. Well the whales can manipulate the values of Bitcoin and other crypto in the market but I think if the users stay sticked to their plans and strategies, and do not change their behavior from being optimistic to pessimistic one, they will be able to overcome the manipulations by the hackers. The number of users using Bitcoin is far more than the number of whales in the market.Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Tronx on July 26, 2018, 10:58:07 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I think whales always manipulate the market for their own benefit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: CryptoHunter24 on July 26, 2018, 11:11:53 AM Yes,whales are the only manipulator not only on bitcoin but the whole cryptomarket. And with this, we need to be more careful before investing on bitcoin or altcoins. Be more observant with the graph and its flow everyday or else,you will end up as a looser
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Mastsetad on July 27, 2018, 05:00:40 AM I know that the whales can manipulate the market but for me, it doesn't make me think that whales are manipulating the market because the market is still being driven by the law of supply and demand and that is the main reason why the market is moving and not purely because of the whales because if the whales are manipulating the market that much then people will abandon that market. Good answer. Just like you are doing you're saying and nothing else no matter. It corrects because if you will listen and be influenced of the manipulator, you will never get profit. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: laracastvue on July 27, 2018, 07:40:17 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? In my own opinion, whales cannot manipulate the market because the price will still grow or dump if the majority of investors will invest or sell their coins. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: katerinaliisa on July 27, 2018, 08:01:26 AM I think whales manipulate the market in their own interests. Their tactics are difficult to predict, but good traders know techniques that help determine where market prices will go.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Jrfranco on July 27, 2018, 08:17:12 AM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? In my own opinion, whales cannot manipulate the market because the price will still grow or dump if the majority of investors will invest or sell their coins. and what would bring this investors to sell their coins? Normally its the news and updates and this news and updates can be manipulated. and who do you think will manipulate the news and updates ? Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Madara_Uchiha on July 27, 2018, 12:30:07 PM Not everything in the market depends on the whales. Very heavily on the position of the market affects the news and the number of people who started trading on the crypto exchange.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: weiweianll on July 27, 2018, 03:22:11 PM Giant whales may now affect some retail investors, but in the long run, as the cryptocurrency market matures and regulates, their ability to influence the market will fall sharply. The larger the cryptocurrency market, the smaller the impact of the whales.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Streamlink on July 28, 2018, 06:46:35 AM i dont think so, but if they will they can. Unfortunately they are because someone having authority in a department will use the authority and whales have that authority and can manipulate the price easily which is something we have witnessed in the past. But there are other factors that can be made work for the restoration of the market like the promotion of crypto by the government and informing people publicly about the services a technology offers.as you said they are whales. everything is possible and if you can see they can mange to put walls which is hard to break. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: thevlox on July 28, 2018, 07:02:52 AM I certainly agree. The price increases from the market.whales is looking at the market opportunities in the market.
Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: hotBriX001 on July 28, 2018, 01:51:54 PM I certainly agree. The price increases from the market.whales is looking at the market opportunities in the market. Yes the Whales are the great influences of the market behavior because they are abundant of crypto stocks that can easily manipulate the market trends to moving up or down depending what profitable outcome they really want. Big dump and big pump of market behavior are the Whales common strategies so that people do not think to be greedy at all times. Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: lubah on July 28, 2018, 02:21:11 PM Hi guys , Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ? I am convinced that bitcoin and many other coins are managed by those who have a lot of bitcoin coins. Like all whales used to say. It whales and try to bring down the price or raise the price to heaven. In December 2017, it was the whales that raised the price to the skies and quickly brought down the course. I have no doubt about it Title: Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets Post by: Pattart on July 28, 2018, 02:42:20 PM I certainly agree. The price increases from the market.whales is looking at the market opportunities in the market. Yes the Whales are the great influences of the market behavior because they are abundant of crypto stocks that can easily manipulate the market trends to moving up or down depending what profitable outcome they really want. Big dump and big pump of market behavior are the Whales common strategies so that people do not think to be greedy at all times. see the market capitalization is very high up to hundreds of billions of dollars? Whose pope has that kind of capital? |
