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June 12, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
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maybe yes maybe not , its can be yes if every whales do it togther , hard to do just by 1-5 whale
need coordinate to manipulate like that

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June 13, 2018, 12:09:04 PM
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Whales, bots, government and fud spreaders are  manipulating the market. Whales want to sell high and buy back at lower price.  Fud spreaders are those people who are against Bitcoin.
Whales most especially are always the ones using the other methods to manipulate the market. One way they create FUD or FOMO in the market, and since they are always going to be at advantage due to their position, then it makes it so easy for them to do their thing.

I believe a lot of things will change over time, and possibly we may get to see how things eventually end up turning out, but for now, I guess we will have to just keep accepting what we have and living with it, but whales really manipulate the market a lot and sometimes, I always feel they do not even use sense in doing so, since all they are after anyway is to make huge gains and they bother less about the growth of the space.
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June 13, 2018, 12:13:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure the reason a whale will actually manipulate a market is of course for money. Buy a boat load of coins when the market is low and sell it when the market is high anf do it all over again. It's actually a good strategy. Another reason maybe is to discredit the market entirely and discourage the small investors to go forward.

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June 13, 2018, 12:17:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure the reason a whale will actually manipulate a market is of course for money. Buy a boat load of coins when the market is low and sell it when the market is high anf do it all over again. It's actually a good strategy. Another reason maybe is to discredit the market entirely and discourage the small investors to go forward.
I too have the same thought, because right now there is no big levels of FUD or negative news around the globe related to cryptocurrency. Whales were the one who has got the ability to manipulate and at present they were the sole reason for the ongoing price decrease to such extent downwards.

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June 13, 2018, 12:27:34 PM
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I think yes, whales have important role for this price downfall and of course of its rising. Whales can do whatever they want, wherever they want to direct the flows of crypto price specially if they are united to do things accurately and timely.
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June 13, 2018, 02:10:03 PM
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Undoubtedly, whales are present on the market, especially on such a market that is as illiquid as bitcoins. Their presence can be seen on the charts of exchanges and in orders.
I hope that the kines will not push the price to 3,000, otherwise it will be very hard for many.
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June 13, 2018, 02:20:16 PM
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the whale that has a lot of capital will drive the bitcoin price, you can take the example of the currently defined whale is mtgox when he sells bitcoin that bitcoin will collapse because the bitcoin is very much owned.
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June 13, 2018, 02:54:55 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

Yes, I do think that whales manipulate the market. I had been holding the opposite opinion for a long time but finally I came to conclusion that regular people with from $200 to $2,000 worth of Bitcoin in their possession can't be the ones whose actions (either selling or buying) affect the market. Indeed it's whales making money on fluctuations  plus collecting additional crypto when it's cheap in order to become even more whaley. Also I think that so called "panic selling" doesn't contribute to the price dropping because the amount of BTC they, taken together, can sell is insignificant compared to that of just couple of whales.

I realized all of that after analyzing what was happening to BTC in 2013. If Bitcoin existence was really dependant from those panic sellers, Bitcoin would die already.

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June 13, 2018, 02:57:21 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
Even if they do manipulates the market still we cant do anything about that,and this will only make us hard feelings when loss,why not just adapt with whats the trend and for me this manipulation is one good thing to take advantaage for profit because this trend is better for daytrading process and the important thing is to find the right coin to by

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June 13, 2018, 03:12:25 PM
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Probably yest the market movers are on the move again, to decrease the price and to buy when it is cheap so they can make again profits, because they are aware of future of cryptocurrency
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June 13, 2018, 04:18:24 PM
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I am sure, whales are manipuulatating, it is just too easy to do in this unregulated market. No doubt, that they are the ones, who earn the most in this high volatility crypto market.
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June 13, 2018, 04:58:47 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
Yes , but not everytime because they are not those types of the person who are always ready to do do such works where people getting out forever , but they create some fear to make Thier own profit in small amounts .
Here beside of the manipulation by the whales in this , there are another factors that are big reason of the dump of the price of the bitcoin .A big reason Is that many people without using Thier own money , they create a type of fake news and spread over the whole market and that Results into dump of the coins much .
So here we can't consider only single factor for the increment of dump in the market of bitcoin and another cryptourrency .
And also in these days I am seeing that lots of negative news are spreading by the news media , even a single step by the government of any particular country becomes a news for the news media and they will say that Soon the government will ban bitcoin , really a shit media .

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June 13, 2018, 05:15:31 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
Everyone has their own theories and their proofs but having such an influence on such a big market is not at all possible for a few people as this requires a huge amount of money for dumping and pumping the market which can only be done by a large group of people but the people are greedy when it comes to money so to control such a large group it will be pretty difficult and also trust is also a major factor in play here.
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June 13, 2018, 05:38:31 PM
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I have always thought and opinionated that there are external forces that dictates the market trends and much more to favour themselves. Definitely, there are Whalers who majorly have a significant role in the bitcoin dip and pump which is part of the external factors affecting the bitcoin present price value.
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June 13, 2018, 05:56:08 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

yes it is possible, and as such it is a common trick that big whales do to control the market and make a profit. but that may be because more and more of the altcoins are appearing in the marketplace so that holders spread their investments in each altcoin.
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June 13, 2018, 05:58:35 PM
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Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't?
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June 13, 2018, 08:55:52 PM
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Probably yest the market movers are on the move again, to decrease the price and to buy when it is cheap so they can make again profits, because they are aware of future of cryptocurrency
Yeah it is gonna be high once again and all those people are now aware of bitcoin nature who have been against bitcoin in past, we should buy bitcoin now and hold it, those who are there to manipulate the market will try to get their own profit they won’t stop for you, but I think bitcoin will be higher in price, no need to sell at panic just wait and watch how high price will get in future so just hold with patience you will end up earning so high.

 
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June 13, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

Whales cannot manipulate the market because they might destroy their own coin if they will sell a huge amount of the coins they are holding but it will only happen if the ico is a scam or they are just planning to milk the investors.

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June 13, 2018, 09:12:10 PM
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Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't?
Yes at the first half of the year I also noticed that the market becomes silent and after the month of June the price of bitcoin start to increase. It is only a slight drop in the price and will not be a permanent and will last sooner within a day or two and after that the price of bitcoin will again start to increase.
When a rise start now then it will continue till the end of the year which will adopt much higher value in the end.
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Some big guys can affect on it, when the new buyer comes and buys alot of btc for instance, price can go up, also, there is many things, like on the end of the year market goes up, coz ppl like to spend money, after the january there is always a silent time, even in the regular shop isn't?
Yes at the first half of the year I also noticed that the market becomes silent and after the month of June the price of bitcoin start to increase. It is only a slight drop in the price and will not be a permanent and will last sooner within a day or two and after that the price of bitcoin will again start to increase.
When a rise start now then it will continue till the end of the year which will adopt much higher value in the end.

A huge selling can kill a relatively unknown coin, but not Bitcoin with its over 5 billion USD current daily trading volume. Too much people trust BTC already to let it die so easily. Whenever price goes down big time, there are a lot of buyers appear and the price start rising again. Of course it's easier for the whales to buy coins when it looks like "the end is nigh" because they know for sure that there will be no end. Regular people continue panic selling and end up partially losing their investments, always regretting not holding some time later.

Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price.

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