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Title: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 27, 2018, 08:04:42 PM
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/?mix]https://i.ibb.co/VWH6S82/xuX6fi9.gif (https://[banned mixer)

Bitcoin Mixer /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) is a one-of-a-kind bitcoin mixer built on [banned mixer] platform and launched in August, 2018. While mixing BTC, /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) does not shuffle available funds in one or multiple pots, but exchanges incoming bitcoins with coins purchased from investors -  cryptocurrency stock exchanges.

Navigation

  • Can I trust you with my money? (#post_trust)
  • What is the min amount and commission costs? (#post_commission)
  • How does [banned mixer] guarantee my anonymity? (#post_anonymity)
  • How long do addresses for funds transfer remain valid? (#post_valid)
  • How long does it take to cleanse Bitcoins? (#post_time)
  • How does your free trial mixing work? (#post_free)
  • How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer? (#post_create)

What is the [banned mixer] project?

Our transfer algorithm selects independent investors and trading platforms, and breaks down your funds in a manner that completely removes a link between input and output transactions. We neither require registration nor store logs. Once the mixing is done and transaction confirmed, the data on processed transactions is deleted. For each mixing request, we issue a digitally signed letter of guarantee, which confirms our obligations to the client.

Code:
Public Key: https://[banned mixer]/pgp-key.txt
Telegtam: https://t.me/mixtum_bot
MixTum Tor Mirror: https://[banned mixer]/
[banned mixer] PGP fingerprint: B8A5 CFCA F63F F2D8 384A 6B12 D3B2 8095 6F0E 7CAF

Can I trust you with my money?

In addition to the fact that we have been on the market for more than 4 years, we take protective measures against errors and malicious acts. For every incoming order, we provide a PGP-signed letter of guarantee that confirms the obligations we assume. To check a letter of guarantee, install a PGP client (for example, PGP4Win (https://www.gpg4win.org/download.html)), import a /pgp-key.txt]public key of [banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) from the website to the installed client and verify a digital signature.

What is the min amount and commission costs?

The commission is randomized to some extent and can be 4-5% + 0.0007 BTC. The innovative cleansing process we use involves considerable expenses, but we believe the resulting premium anonymization level is worth the price. Minimum amount of funds for cleansing 0.005 BTC. Smaller transactions will be regarded as a donation since it makes no business sense to conduct them, but if you have sent such sum by mistake, /#contacts]contact (https://[banned mixer) our help desk.

How does [banned mixer] guarantee my anonymity?

We do not collect logs, do not store private information, our team is also anonymous. The main principle of the platform operation is the provision of funds to end customers from a hundred different investors from various stock exchanges. All info about an order is deleted upon its completion (or when the offer expires). The only remaining trace of our work are the letters of guarantee we give you.

To increase the level of anonymity, you can use the Tor version of the platform, (the Tor version uses no JavaScript, collects and stores no records of website visitor activity). MixTum has an official Tor mirror of the website which you can find under the following /]link (https://[banned mixer).

How long do addresses for funds transfer remain valid?

They remain valid for 7 days. This period is sufficient to address any network issues, delays and human errors that may occur, thus guaranteeing safety of customer's assets. Anyway, in all cases an address lifetime for every request is captured in a letter of guarantee provided by the [banned mixer] platform.

How long does it take to cleanse Bitcoins?

The process starts after the first confirmation of your incoming transfer and takes up to 6 hours. The exact delay is chosen randomly in order to resist deanonymization attempts. We have found that a random delay of up to 6 hours is enough to eliminate the risk of volume analysis.

How does your free trial mixing work?

You can initiate trial mixing via the respective button on the main page, or follow /?mix=free]this link (https://[banned mixer). The commission for cleansing will not be charged, but you must send us exactly 0.001 BTC. You cannot select a percentage breakdown as this is decided by the algorithm for optimal performance and anonymity.

How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer? [/faq.php#faq-2.1]Extended FAQ (https://[banned mixer)]

It is very simple! You do not have to implement mixer algorithms by yourself or seek for finance to form operating assets, we did that for you.

➥ Register on the [banned mixer] website as a partner, specify a BTC wallet for profit receipt and your mixer commission, configure an automated withdrawal of funds and enter a project name. The platform will generate BTC addresses, issue letters of guarantee on your behalf, control monetary flows and transfer profits to you.

➥ Develop website design of your own mixer or use a template which we have prepared for you. In your personal account you can find HTML templates for Tor and Clearnet mixer version, PHP gateway to connect to our system. Download and upload them to your hosting.

➥ Your mixer is ready for operation, all that is left for you to do is to attract clients. You will get interest income from every transaction. You will get Jabber or Telegram notifications of new requests and transaction execution via your mixer from the platform.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: AdolfinWolf on September 07, 2018, 05:29:10 PM
You're offering a service that you can't prove -- something that's simply based on your word and a hefty 5% fee?

How can we as "customers" actually verify that our coins have been mixed correctly/are 100% "clean", when they're going through dozens of third parties, who may at a later point disclose all this information to LE?

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which we purchase from cryptocurrency stock exchangesp
It seems like by doing this you're actually making an (unbreakable) trail, instead of removing it. Especially if you're using a somewhat regulated exchange...

This seems like the most ideal route;

User A -> Mixtum deposit adress Y =/= Mixtum deposit adress X of user B -> Exchange X deposit adress Y-> *Exhange* Exchange X deposit adress Z-> (Mixtum adress Z) -> receiving adress of User A.

Now, depending on what exchange you're using, it seems as if coins can still be traced up until they're dirty again, especially if there's law enforcement involved.. ???
(It does break the trail, but you'll still have the (potentially) dirty coins of B associated with you..)
What exactly is this magic formula that involves exchanges and completely clean coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: felicita on September 07, 2018, 06:31:47 PM
Currently so many mixing services opens.
Seen about 7 in last month opening....

and read on your F.A.Q.
8. How much does it cost?
A commission fee is dynamic and comes up to 5% + 0.00015 BTC which is a good offer for such anonymization level.




no really many others offers better fees ;)



kind regards


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on September 09, 2018, 06:11:45 AM
You're offering a service that you can't prove -- something that's simply based on your word and a hefty 5% fee?

How can we as "customers" actually verify that our coins have been mixed correctly/are 100% "clean", when they're going through dozens of third parties, who may at a later point disclose all this information to LE?

Quote
which we purchase from cryptocurrency stock exchangesp
It seems like by doing this you're actually making an (unbreakable) trail, instead of removing it. Especially if you're using a somewhat regulated exchange...

This seems like the most ideal route;

User A -> Mixtum deposit adress Y =/= Mixtum deposit adress X of user B -> Exchange X deposit adress Y-> *Exhange* Exchange X deposit adress Z-> (Mixtum adress Z) -> receiving adress of User A.

Now, depending on what exchange you're using, it seems as if coins can still be traced up until they're dirty again, especially if there's law enforcement involved.. ???
(It does break the trail, but you'll still have the (potentially) dirty coins of B associated with you..)
What exactly is this magic formula that involves exchanges and completely clean coins?


Hello. Thank you for your interest in our mixer. We have created it on the basis of the platform [banned mixer] that provides efficient mixing algorithms and access to proven funds from cryptocurrency stock exchanges.

Frankly speaking, we were sceptical as well at the very beginning. Before launching our mixer, we studied the market for a long time, analyzed the existing classical mixers, identified bottlenecks in their mixing models. We were getting desperate to launch our project, when suddenly we came across the platform [banned mixer].

Once we have thoroughly tested it and become sure of the declared capabilities of the system, we decided to stay with [banned mixer]. The problems you have defined refer to classical mixers, and [banned mixer] is exempt of such problems.

Let’s assume that investors A and B send us money from a stock exchange to our transit wallets A1 and B1, they do not know who will receive this money. As you know, stock exchanges are in fact big mixers that accumulate funds in their wallets. And their turnover is bigger than any mixer has, that ensures good mixing and purity of transactions. Besides, the wallet for replenishment and withdrawal from most exchanges, is not the same. When customer C comes, he sends us money to a transit wallet C1. After that, the money is sent to the customer in some random parts from the wallets A1 and B1. Moreover, wallets are selected according to several features, one of which is the zeroing of the transit wallet, so that there is no change left.

And now let's imagine that there are a lot of customers and investors, thus a particular investor and a customer are not just exchanging their money. Investor A can receive funds from customer D, C, F. And customer C can receive funds from investors A and Q.

Under these circumstances, the deanonymization process of the client's funds is very complicated, in our opinion it is impossible in practice. Even we do not know beforehand who will receive whose money. To improve stability, various algorithms are used, for example, the algorithm of the zeroing of the transit wallet, which allows minimizing the possibility of research, using cluster analysis.

Unlike classic mixers, we do not have a link in the blockchain between the investor and the client. Given the large number of independent investors and customers, our stability increases greatly.

As you know, stock exchanges require KYC, have withdrawal limits and are against the situation of one user having several accounts. Therefore, the cleansing technology of large amounts of money through stock exchanges using only their accounts is extremely difficult. [banned mixer] solves such problems, buys output transactions through [banned mixer] from independent investors, and resells them to its customers.

We are not a classic mixer, we do not have the problem of 'dirty coins at the entrance = dirty coins at the exit, but only someone else's.' We do not need to use the 'mixer codes' so that a person does not get their money back when recleansing.

It is for these reasons that [banned mixer] does not compete with classical mixers, customers who care about anonymization without risk and high level of cleansing choose us.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on September 09, 2018, 06:18:45 AM
Few thoughts :
1. Other mixers already use similar way to mix user coins, which means your mixer don't have anything special/unique
2. Why there's some javascript file (some even from 3rd party) on both clearnet and tor version? FYI, people with security/anonymity/privacy concern won't use your service if they know about it.
3. Any info about coins from exchange? If government/exchange somehow able to connect your account with your services, all mixed coin which supposed to clean could be tainted.
Hello, here are our comments to your thoughts:

1. We disagree with this statement. We use a fundamentally different approach to anonymizing bitcoins and provide a different level of cleansing to our customers. We do not mix bitcoins in one or several pots; we get coins from a large number of independent investors from various cryptocurrency stock exchanges. All financial resources, received by the platform undergo a scoring procedure that checks their belonging to reliable stock exchanges.

2. We have a unified code for Clearnet and TOR versions of the website. Yes, you are correct, we use JavaScript. The reason for this is better website usability. You are absolutely right that people with security/anonymity/privacy concerns are quite sensitive to such things. We are going to explore the possibility of completely or partially removing JavaScript.
In case of increased security requirements, we recommend our customers to use our TOR mirror mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion and disable JavaScript by default. That is all I can tell you in this situation.

3. We check all input money from stock exchanges using the platform [banned mixer], on the basis of which our mixer is built. The platform implements scoring algorithms that enable funds of dubious origin to enter the platform. For providing clean money, investors receive a commission, and this ensures a constant inflow of the necessary amount of funds from independent investors.
We do not store logs, there is no connection between investors and customers, we do not have a pool of funds in which investors' and customers' money is mixed. We are not exposed to risks of this kind.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on September 09, 2018, 06:32:01 AM
Currently so many mixing services opens.
Seen about 7 in last month opening....

and read on your F.A.Q.
8. How much does it cost?
A commission fee is dynamic and comes up to 5% + 0.00015 BTC which is a good offer for such anonymization level.




no really many others offers better fees ;)



kind regards

Very few mixers present in the market can offer this level of bitcoin anonymization. Customers of [banned mixer] are BTC holders who value a high level of cleansing, value their anonymity and do not want to mess with other's money of questionable origin.

It is incorrect to compare the cost of [banned mixer] services with the cost of classic mixers services. We can only say that the cost of our services also includes interest for attracting external investors from cryptocurrency stock exchanges and the cost of using the [banned mixer] platform infrastructure that provides us with everything necessary for implementation of a mixing process.

We consider the cost of our service to be adequate to the level of anonymization that we offer.


Title: Try out MixTum's top notch mixing and anonymization of your BTC for free now!
Post by: MixTum.io on October 18, 2018, 02:26:36 PM
If you have been looking into crypto currency tumbling services and kinda wondering if any of those is worth your trust, here is a chance for you to take a free ride and find out.

[banned mixer] does a great job obfuscating crypto traces and preserving your digital privacy rights. Our mixing service ensures the highest quality of coins coming from stock exchanges and / or miners. These coins are verified and then randomly distributed to end users so to up the anonymity level. Clean and anonymous. And on top of that, free to try out.

Below, we are going to detail a few requirements for free trial users:
- the transaction amount has to be 0,001 BTC (not less or more),
- only one forward address can be used.

Needless to say, we store no logs and provide a letter of guarantee as a proof of work. Grab your chance to try [banned mixer] service and cleanse your coins with 0 commission. Feel free to fire your questions here or at mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: TryNinja on October 18, 2018, 02:38:48 PM
How does this work? You want people to test your mixer with their own 0.001BTC? And if they do, what do they get?

Or are you giving 0.001BTC to the users so they can test it? After all, you don't have any reputation.

If it's the second option, I'm in: 1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 18, 2018, 02:51:10 PM
How does this work? You want people to test your mixer with their own 0.001BTC? And if they do, what do they get?

Or are you giving 0.001BTC to the users so they can test it? After all, you don't have any reputation.

If it's the second option, I'm in: 1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L
MixTum's free trial option works in the following way. Customer sends his 0,001 btc to our mixer, we send him 0,001 btc back which were cleansed through the chain of stock exchanges and charge no commission for that. We issue a letter of guarantee for each order / transaction. This is a test drive allowing the customer to check how [banned mixer] works.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: TryNinja on October 18, 2018, 04:13:21 PM
How does this work? You want people to test your mixer with their own 0.001BTC? And if they do, what do they get?

Or are you giving 0.001BTC to the users so they can test it? After all, you don't have any reputation.

If it's the second option, I'm in: 1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L
MixTum's free trial option works in the following way. Customer sends his 0,001 btc to our mixer, we send him 0,001 btc back which were cleansed through the chain of stock exchanges and charge no commission for that. We issue a letter of guarantee for each order / transaction. This is a test drive allowing the customer to check how [banned mixer] works.
The thing is that even if it’s such a low amount (0.001), no one can trust you. Also, what do we get by testing uour mixer? We just lose money (transaction fees) and time. Every other mixer sends a small tip so the user can test the mixer, review and keep the money.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 20, 2018, 09:17:59 PM
How does this work? You want people to test your mixer with their own 0.001BTC? And if they do, what do they get?

Or are you giving 0.001BTC to the users so they can test it? After all, you don't have any reputation.

If it's the second option, I'm in: 1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L
MixTum's free trial option works in the following way. Customer sends his 0,001 btc to our mixer, we send him 0,001 btc back which were cleansed through the chain of stock exchanges and charge no commission for that. We issue a letter of guarantee for each order / transaction. This is a test drive allowing the customer to check how [banned mixer] works.
The thing is that even if it’s such a low amount (0.001), no one can trust you. Also, what do we get by testing uour mixer? We just lose money (transaction fees) and time. Every other mixer sends a small tip so the user can test the mixer, review and keep the money.
We offer a free trial of our mixer with 0.001 BTC for users to test it, to make sure it works and that it meets their requirements. We are not an eternal generator of BTC's to give everyone even that small amount of cryptocurrency.
We believe that a free test drive of [banned mixer] is convenient for end users. 0.001 BTC is a small amount of money, so there is no sense to steal it. Even our development costs are much more than that sum.
Our clients benefit from using a free trial - sometimes psychologically to decide to test mixing service on such a small amount is not that risky, these coins will still return to them. And having estimated quality of cleansing and convenience, it is possible make a decision whether  to work with us for bigger sums or not.
Since you are hero member of bitcointalk we can provide you for a test with 0,001 BTC if you want, but only in return for your honest feedback, published here.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: ElenaBlanca on October 20, 2018, 10:04:38 PM
i will test and leave honest feedback 1BraLZttHhyRQH1hRS2vTXVDWpyjvJxC8K


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: FleurTunisienne on October 20, 2018, 11:50:11 PM
Since you are hero member of bitcointalk we can provide you for a test with 0,001 BTC if you want, but only in return for your honest feedback, published here.
Nobody would destroy his reputation stealing 6$ worth of btc; tiping feedbackers is a common methods used by newcome-mixers to get direct feedback after testing. I tried this twice before with two of your competitors (check my post history). You can choose only reputable users to try the mixer. I will try it and leave an honest review if you send the required amount for one session.
BTC address: 18upXuJUJsYQ128NpjabdgP77bKexqJbU5


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 01:54:36 PM
Dear members of bitcointalk forum!

After receiving several requests / proposals for testing [banned mixer] in exchange for honest feedback published in this thread, we decided to put this process simple and transparent.

Here is our offer - we will send 0,001 BTC (plus amount to cover network fees) to first five bitcointalk members requested a free trial with the rank 'member' or higher.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
i will test and leave honest feedback 1BraLZttHhyRQH1hRS2vTXVDWpyjvJxC8K
Dear Elena, unfortunately your current rank on bitcointalk is too low to add some reputational value to [banned mixer]. Sorry for probably being a little bit straightforward, but according to our recent internal decision we offer this opportunity only for first five bitcointalk members requested a free trial with the rank 'member' or higher.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 02:52:48 PM
I am interested in testing your mixer.
BTC address: 1KLwiCoo85bNT5XtPTkMnHJ45Y4iBVMm59
You are #3 in the list. We will send coins for test drive shortly. 


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 02:58:48 PM
Since you are hero member of bitcointalk we can provide you for a test with 0,001 BTC if you want, but only in return for your honest feedback, published here.
Nobody would destroy his reputation stealing 6$ worth of btc; tiping feedbackers is a common methods used by newcome-mixers to get direct feedback after testing. I tried this twice before with two of your competitors (check my post history). You can choose only reputable users to try the mixer. I will try it and leave an honest review if you send the required amount for one session.
BTC address: 18upXuJUJsYQ128NpjabdgP77bKexqJbU5

Hi FleurTunisienne, we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. That includes some reserve for network fee to send 0,001 btc for test. We would highly appreciate your feedback on the work of our bitcoin mixer. Feel free to publish it in this thread


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: TryNinja on October 21, 2018, 03:18:07 PM
I’ve seen the PM you sent me. I can test and give you a honest feedback about your service when I arrive home later today.

1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: vit05 on October 21, 2018, 03:23:59 PM
I could test your Mixer too.

1BuGyjzDLuu6iQL8FQw3bjQVgdBoUjWLPz


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 03:25:21 PM
I am interested in testing your mixer.
BTC address: 1KLwiCoo85bNT5XtPTkMnHJ45Y4iBVMm59

Hi, khaled0111 we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. That includes 0,001 btc for test and rest for network fee. We would highly appreciate your feedback on the work of our mixer. Feel free to publish it in this thread


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 03:36:06 PM
I’ve seen the PM you sent me. I can test and give you a honest feedback about your service when I arrive home later today.

1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L

Hi, TryNinja. We've sent you 0,0013 btc. Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 21, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
I could test your Mixer too.

1BuGyjzDLuu6iQL8FQw3bjQVgdBoUjWLPz

Hi, vit05. You are #4 in the list. I will inform you as soon as send coins for testing. Thank you for your readiness.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: TryNinja on October 22, 2018, 01:59:30 AM
I've started the mixing process and already sent the coins.

How does the random time delay works? I've tried different devices, browsers, IPs and I'm always getting 6 hours.

Just a few quick suggestions:

- Lower your fees. Seriously. There are at least 6 other mixers with a better well-design website, a better reputation, more features and better fees than yours. 5% is a steal.
- Let the user choose his delay time. Sometimes he may be in a hurry and don't want to wait 6~8 hours.
- Let the user add more than one output and choose a delay and percentage of the mixed coins for each address. More options and customization should be a must for every mixer.
- Add a mixing ID or something like this so the user can track his mixing order. It should be also available on the Letter of Guarantee.

Btw, you say that you can mix amounts as big as 50BTC per request, so why are you so afraid of giving 0.001BTC to a couple of users? It's not about being an "eternal generator of BTC", but there were a few mixers giving 0.01BTC per review to ~20 users, while you're looking to give 0.0013BTC per review to only 5 users. That does not give me the security of you having that much money.

I'll update my post when I receive my coins in ~6 hours.

Edit: got my coins in 2 separated transactions.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: FleurTunisienne on October 22, 2018, 03:38:15 AM
Succefully received btc for test. Successfully Tried the test trial. Successfully received the mixed coins.


By making the test operation as a suplementary option on the site, a test process is probably different from main process (tester use the free trial that doesn't know if it's running in the same way as paid session) ; so there is no solid reason to ask feedbacks from testers using the free trial*.

If by admiting it's the same process for both free and paid processes, here my notes:

- Site is very easy to use in a standard way. Just didn't like the design (fully black and white) so you may think about adding some colors to not make the use of your service looks bored than effecient, as should make it harder to create a simple copy of your site (avoid scammers/thiefs) .
- Signing the letter of guarantee with a PGP signature is the most effecient way to assume obligation towards your clients, and extreme security as well. (waiting for testers to confirm the signed letters as i don't have a pgp client installed)
- Maximum amount to be mixed for one order is 50BTC so how you aprove that you controle such big amounts (standardly we ask for a signed btc msg from a wallet holding that amount but i don't know how this may function with wallets held by exchanges) even you are using platform [banned mixer] which i can assume that only few know about its system. As TryNinja said: After all, you don't have any reputation.
- Fees: 5%+0.00015 BTC is a good offer for such anonymization level, especially for those willing to mix big amounts but this won't help you to start because they will also ask for much lower fees (mixing 50btc will cost about 2.5btc which is extremely high). Also it should be mentioned if the fees are applicable per one order or per one forwarding address.
- Multiple addresses is a good feature but limited to only 2 so you may ameliorate this feature by adding more receiving addresses (may apply the fee for each one). Also, it should be mentioned how the mixed amount would be splitted between the addresses or let the user specify a percentage or split for his bitcoin.

Suggestions:

- Website should generate an ID number for each order; would help for complaints and reviews.
- Delay time is fixed to 6 hours: Some sessions will hold small amounts that doesn't deserve to be delayed for up to 6 hours, when for big amounts, it is recommended to set long delay time to make chain-analysis harder.
- In the long run, a chat-support on the site or telegram would be nice to have as this would allow users to easily raise emergency concerns about the site if there are any technical issues occuring during the process in mixing their bitcoin.
- Bonus/referral programs: (don't know if this already set in your marketing strategy) Adding those kind of programs would help the world know about you in short time than expected; The bonus can be set in form of more lower fees for regular users or donators or those mixing big amounts. A referral program would need the implementation of more complicated tools (profiles,logins,IDs...) ;don't know how you can handle with it for now.


*Thanks for the tip but if you just sent a little more, i was able to test in the paid mirror where you would deduct the fees, so this will really cost you nothing to receive more honest feedback.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: LoyceV on October 22, 2018, 03:16:42 PM
Can I be #5 to test your mixer?


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 22, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
I could test your Mixer too.

1BuGyjzDLuu6iQL8FQw3bjQVgdBoUjWLPz

Hi, vit05. You are #4 in the list. I will inform you as soon as send coins for testing. Thank you for your readiness.

Hi, vit05 we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. You could try full mode and send 0,0013 btc for mixing. In that case you will get back initial sum -5% as a fee. Or you could try a trial mode. In that case you should send exact 0,001 btc and you will get exact the same sum after mixing. Feel free to publish your results, comments and feelings it in this thread.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 22, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Can I be #5 to test your mixer?

Yes, for sure. You are #5, please give your BTC address.     


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: LoyceV on October 22, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
Can I be #5 to test your mixer?
Yes, for sure. You are #5, please give your BTC address.     
bc1qr99zenj5g8220tezjrr3f0jfaeptzzrea3u6rx


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 22, 2018, 09:39:51 PM
Can I be #5 to test your mixer?
Yes, for sure. You are #5, please give your BTC address.     
bc1qr99zenj5g8220tezjrr3f0jfaeptzzrea3u6rx

May I ask you for legacy BTC address


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 22, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
I've started the mixing process and already sent the coins.

How does the random time delay works? I've tried different devices, browsers, IPs and I'm always getting 6 hours.

It is normal that it always shows you 6 hours. The delay is randomly chosen, but limited to these 6 hours. Unlike other platforms, we don't allow the users to change this random range on their own, because the human nature is predictable, especially his behaviour. Sooner or later manual time set option will lead a person to mistake. According to our research 6 hour delay is enough to eliminate the risk of volume analysis. We come from the following standpoints - around 1000 transactions form 1 block, each block is mined on average in every 10 minutes, so we have over 36000 transactions to hide in, which is a pretty good statistical error, isn't it?

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Just a few quick suggestions:

- Lower your fees. Seriously. There are at least 6 other mixers with a better well-design website, a better reputation, more features and better fees than yours. 5% is a steal.

yes, you are right, and I would accept all the above comments, except one which I believe pays all the rest and lets [banned mixer] to stand out - it is its mixing algorithm. [banned mixer] is powered by [banned mixer] a mixing platform which allows to use a totally different mixing approach from so called classical mixers and to minimise the risk of cluster and taint analysis. [banned mixer] purchases through [banned mixer] output transactions from hundreds of traders from cryptocurrency stock exchanges.
Moreover, each transaction passes scoring procedure before coming in. When you use classical mixer there is no guarantee that customer money is not mixed with cryptocurrency of illicit origin. In other words, a use of classic mixers may lead to that cryptocurrency of questionable provenance will take part in the mixing process and what is more, return of a part of cryptocurrency back to its owner is not ruled out.
And the last, but definitely not least thing is that these as we call them 'investors' money we don't mix with customer's money. When using classical mixer there might be a risk of getting your own money back. Moreover, this risk increases with a regular use of one and the same mixer.

By the way, just FYI - our commission randomly vary between 4 and 5 percent

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- Let the user choose his delay time. Sometimes he may be in a hurry and don't want to wait 6~8 hours.

As I mentioned in my previous comment it is not secure that much.

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- Let the user add more than one output and choose a delay and percentage of the mixed coins for each address. More options and customisation should be a must for every mixer.

We offer two output addresses for regular (not trial) mixing. Our experience shows that two addresses are enough for most users, but we are considering adding more outputs in the near future.

Letting the user choose the delay and percentage breakdown would interfere with out mixing algorithm which tries to minimise the need for change addresses. It picks wallets for withdrawal such that there is no change remaining most of the time. This makes our algorithm much more resistant to cluster analysis. We try to make the service as convenient as possible, but when there is a trade-off, we prioritise security. There are plenty of services out there who chose a different path, so it's always up to the customer whether to chose more flexibility and user friendliness over better anonymity and higher security of their assets.
 
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- Add a mixing ID or something like this so the user can track his mixing order. It should be also available on the Letter of Guarantee.

The use of mixing IDs would mean that we have to store data about your operations for extended periods of time, which we believe is insecure, and storing that data only until the transaction is completed would be pointless. Many considerations went into this decision, including that story when a large number of mixing IDs was indexed by Google and ended up in public access.


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Btw, you say that you can mix amounts as big as 50BTC per request, so why are you so afraid of giving 0.001BTC to a couple of users? It's not about being an "eternal generator of BTC", but there were a few mixers giving 0.01BTC per review to ~20 users, while you're looking to give 0.0013BTC per review to only 5 users. That does not give me the security of you having that much money.

I'll update my post when I receive my coins in ~6 hours.

We use a different business model. Since we purchase output transactions from hundreds of traders from cryptocurrency stock exchanges we usually have enough money to fulfil a steady volume of incoming orders.Even if there is a lack of money we can easily access to jambler's sellers database and purchase more transactions in a real time frame. BTW, you can test how it works and register as a seller on [banned mixer]


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: LoyceV on October 23, 2018, 07:01:48 PM
May I ask you for legacy BTC address
1riskingRemLwiUtYyLacRBaqNeZr1TaN

Update:
Hi, LoyceV we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. You could try standard or free trial mode. Feel free to publish your feedback it in this thread.
Received. I should have some time for a review tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 23, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
Succefully received btc for test. Successfully Tried the test trial. Successfully received the mixed coins.


By making the test operation as a suplementary option on the site, a test process is probably different from main process (tester use the free trial that doesn't know if it's running in the same way as paid session) ; so there is no solid reason to ask feedbacks from testers using the free trial*.

You are right, there are several minor differences in test and main procedures and they are the following. In a test mode you can set only one forward to address whereas in the main mode you can set multiple (two). In a test mode fewer investors' wallets involved. All the rest is the same. 

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If by admiting it's the same process for both free and paid processes, here my notes:

- Site is very easy to use in a standard way. Just didn't like the design (fully black and white) so you may think about adding some colors to not make the use of your service looks bored than effecient, as should make it harder to create a simple copy of your site (avoid scammers/thiefs).[/quote]
In order to launch the mixer as fast as it is possible we took a template layout offered by [banned mixer] platform keeping in mind the necessity to redo it (website layout) in the near future. Thank you for your comment.

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- Signing the letter of guarantee with a PGP signature is the most effecient way to assume obligation towards your clients, and extreme security as well. (waiting for testers to confirm the signed letters as i don't have a pgp client installed)
We have a tutorial on how verify a PGP-signed message using Gpg4win which is published here - https://[banned mixer]/howto.php#pgp if you need.
We also use a transparent approach - all the transactions could be checked in blockchain. If needed I can explain it in more detailed way.

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- Maximum amount to be mixed for one order is 50BTC so how you aprove that you controle such big amounts (standardly we ask for a signed btc msg from a wallet holding that amount but i don't know how this may function with wallets held by exchanges) even you are using platform [banned mixer] which i can assume that only few know about its system. As TryNinja said: After all, you don't have any reputation.
As I replied to TryNinja before - we use a different business model. we don't have to store in the core of our mixer over 50 btc, because we purchase output transactions through [banned mixer] from hundreds of traders from cryptocurrency stock exchanges. We usually have enough money to fulfil the volume of incoming orders. Even if there is a lack of money we can easily access to jambler's sellers database and purchase more transactions in a real time frame. You can also test how it works and register as a seller on [banned mixer]

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- Fees: 5%+0.00015 BTC is a good offer for such anonymization level, especially for those willing to mix big amounts but this won't help you to start because they will also ask for much lower fees (mixing 50btc will cost about 2.5btc which is extremely high). Also it should be mentioned if the fees are applicable per one order or per one forwarding address.
We believe the level of anonymity we offer is worth paying up to 5% for it. We charge commission per order.

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- Multiple addresses is a good feature but limited to only 2 so you may ameliorate this feature by adding more receiving addresses (may apply the fee for each one). Also, it should be mentioned how the mixed amount would be splitted between the addresses or let the user specify a percentage or split for his bitcoin.
As for offering more than 2 forward addresses - thank you, we plan to implement it in the near future. Coming back to flexibility and customization options as I've already mentioned in me reply to TryNinja - it is always customer's choice. We see this as a weak point from security standpoint.

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Suggestions:

- Website should generate an ID number for each order; would help for complaints and reviews.
Again, using mixing ID's is not good for security reasons. I mentioned this in my reply to TryNinja, please see above.

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- Delay time is fixed to 6 hours: Some sessions will hold small amounts that doesn't deserve to be delayed for up to 6 hours, when for big amounts, it is recommended to set long delay time to make chain-analysis harder.
According to our research 6 hour delay is enough to minimise the risk of volume analysis. We come from the following perspective - around 1000 transactions form 1 block, each block is mined on average in every 10 minutes, so we have over 36000 transactions to hide in, which is a pretty good statistical error.

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- In the long run, a chat-support on the site or telegram would be nice to have as this would allow users to easily raise emergency concerns about the site if there are any technical issues occurring during the process in mixing their bitcoin.
Agree, thank you for the comment. We will definitely work this out and  come to our audience soon with kinda omni-channel model.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 24, 2018, 03:23:40 PM
May I ask you for legacy BTC address
1riskingRemLwiUtYyLacRBaqNeZr1TaN

Hi, LoyceV we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. You could try standard or free trial mode. Feel free to publish your feedback it in this thread.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: vit05 on October 24, 2018, 10:12:47 PM
I used your mixer. The first fact that called my attention was the site [banned mixer]. As I understand it, this is a whitelabel mixer. I found this idea very interesting, a great business opportunity. But it is unclear if your site is using their service or if you are responsible for it. I say this because the responsibility for the coins sent is even more distant. And the actual service provider is more likely to disappear easily.

The site is simple and fast, with no unnecessary animations. That's great. When I went to send my BTC the following message appears:

"Enter your Bitcoin forward to address below:"

I thought this message could create unnecessary confusion for anyone who wants to use the service and is not so familiar with the English language. Could not it be like in others where a payment address appears and a place to put the destination address? I think demonstrating a clearer process could help when something goes wrong. The fee is very, very high. Even more with other services offering diverse options for payment and much lower fees. The time is much shorter than that of 6 hours. I found it reasonably fast when compared to other services. Overall it seemed good service.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: LoyceV on October 25, 2018, 04:47:41 PM
Things I've noticed testing MixTum

Wrong mixed amount:
I didn't use the "free trial", but the normal mixing. I sent 0.00129108 Bitcoin, and the Fee Calculator shows I would receive 0.00108 Bitcoin. But I received only 0.0007 Bitcoin. Is there an error in the calculation somewhere?

Update: I just checked, and the remaining funds arrived. Why is it sent in 2 parts, if it's send to the same address anyway?

Miscellaneous:
Typo: comission > commission.
Time 6 hours: from what I've read, this is random (mine went through much faster). A random time is good for privacy, but could be made more clear. The FAQ says 1 to 8 hours, so I suggest to just write: "Time 1-8 hours".
After my deposit was confirmed, I refreshed my browser. This produced another deposit address, while I was hoping to see the current status of my mixing.
Maximum amount to mix is 50 Bitcoin. Are mixing funds owned by you, or does Jambler take care of all funding?
Is it possible to use a Bitcoin signed message for the Letter of Guarantee? That's much more standard for mixers, and it's easier to verify (having a Bitcoin wallet is enough). I didn't verify the Letter of Guarantee.

Curious:
What does "mixtum" stand for? I'm not a native English speaker, and I can't figure it out :P

stock exchanges are in fact big mixers that accumulate funds in their wallets.
It's safe to assume exchanges log everything, and keep logs forever. This is the opposite of what a mixer should do.

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Unlike classic mixers, we do not have a link in the blockchain between the investor and the client.
But unlike classic mixers, at least many parts of the mixing process are being logged.

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As you know, stock exchanges require KYC, have withdrawal limits and are against the situation of one user having several accounts. Therefore, the cleansing technology of large amounts of money through stock exchanges using only their accounts is extremely difficult. [banned mixer] solves such problems, buys output transactions through [banned mixer] from independent investors, and resells them to its customers.
The main thing I'm curious about: how does receiving funds from exchanges through your mixer work? Say "a criminal Bitcoin" is deposited, sent to an exchange, and someone else withdraws that same Bitcoin from the same exchange. How does that make it "cleaner"? I expect exchanges to require full KYC and AML from their customers, how can they do business with Bitcoin mixers, who rely on anonymity? You make it sound as if independent investors use their own personal accounts to launder money through exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 25, 2018, 08:24:06 PM

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Thank you for your fast reply.
I just sent 0.001 to your mixer and I will update this post ofter receiving them back.

Thank you for your readiness to test our micer and to share your experience here with others. Appreciate that.

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Firstly and to be honest, I didn't like the design and the colors of the website.

Thank you for your feedback. Be sure, your comment is heard - we already initiated internal work on the redesign of our website.

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Secondly, why did you set the waiting time to 6 hours, it should be set by the customer.

Classical mixers usually offer this functionality, whereas we see this is as a weak point in security. We do not set the time 6 hours - it is randomly chosen time frame up to 6 hours. in other words mixing process may take less than 6 hours. We do not allow customer to set time, because, according to our experience in most case customers chose minimal time frame, which does not allow us to provide the declared level of anonymity.

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Also, 5% is too high, other mixers offer the same service with lower fees (also the customer should be able to adjust fees).

As I mentioned before in my previous replies, unlike classical mixers we offer higher level of mixing service which is achieved by using another approach / algorithm powered by [banned mixer] platform. The key difference lies in cleansing bitcoins through the chain of output transactions from cryptocurrency stock exchanges. And again, as I mentioned above our fee is also randomly set in between 4 to 5 percent.

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Where is the session ID? How could I check the status of my session and if I want to complain about something wrong how would I do so without the session ID??

To use session or tracking ID's is also insecure. We generate letters of guarantee for each order. You can always complain using the letter of guarantee. 

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Update: 0.001 BTC received

Any updates?


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 25, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
I used your mixer. The first fact that called my attention was the site [banned mixer]. As I understand it, this is a whitelabel mixer.

Correct, we launched our mixer based on [banned mixer] platform.

I found this idea very interesting, a great business opportunity.

Yes, we found the concept of [banned mixer] is fresh & promising as well.


But it is unclear if your site is using their service or if you are responsible for it. I say this because the responsibility for the coins sent is even more distant. And the actual service provider is more likely to disappear easily.

This is a tricky point, but after all investigations of jambler we made they proved us that the platform is transparent enough.
So we made a go decision and we are responsible for mixing service we provide power by jambler. We generate letters of guarantee to users.

The site is simple and fast, with no unnecessary animations. That's great. When I went to send my BTC the following message appears:

"Enter your Bitcoin forward to address below:"

I thought this message could create unnecessary confusion for anyone who wants to use the service and is not so familiar with the English language. Could not it be like in others where a payment address appears and a place to put the destination address?

Not sure if I get your comment correctly. Could you please clarify it using a different wording.
 
I think demonstrating a clearer process could help when something goes wrong. The fee is very, very high. Even more with other services offering diverse options for payment and much lower fees. The time is much shorter than that of 6 hours. I found it reasonably fast when compared to other services. Overall it seemed good service.

Thank you for your comments


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on October 27, 2018, 05:05:42 PM
Things I've noticed testing MixTum

Wrong mixed amount:
I didn't use the "free trial", but the normal mixing. I sent 0.00129108 Bitcoin, and the Fee Calculator shows I would receive 0.00108 Bitcoin. But I received only 0.0007 Bitcoin. Is there an error in the calculation somewhere?

Update: I just checked, and the remaining funds arrived. Why is it sent in 2 parts, if it's send to the same address anyway?

In standard mode we usually do 2 or more transactions to your output address(es). This way you receive coins from multiple different sources.

Miscellaneous:
Typo: comission > commission.
Time 6 hours: from what I've read, this is random (mine went through much faster). A random time is good for privacy, but could be made more clear. The FAQ says 1 to 8 hours, so I suggest to just write: "Time 1-8 hours".

Thanks for the advice; we will definitely tweak it in the future.

After my deposit was confirmed, I refreshed my browser. This produced another deposit address, while I was hoping to see the current status of my mixing.

Thanks for pointing it out. We will research this behavior and see if there is any technical problem involved.
As for the status, that page only shows the publicly available block chain information taken straight from blockchain.info. This is not the status of your transaction per se; it’s there just for your convenience, so you can see that your funds have entered the system. We don’t provide the actual status on your transactions due to security considerations (I think this has been mentioned above in this thread).

Maximum amount to mix is 50 Bitcoin. Are mixing funds owned by you, or does Jambler take care of all funding?

Jambler arranges the inflow of funds provided by investors from stock exchanges, as necessary. They only keep a small-ish buffer of coins at hand.

Is it possible to use a Bitcoin signed message for the Letter of Guarantee? That's much more standard for mixers, and it's easier to verify (having a Bitcoin wallet is enough). I didn't verify the Letter of Guarantee.

Yes, many use this approach, which is alternative to what we currently use. We always support whatever is more convenient for the customer, so if we see that enough people want this, we may switch.

Curious:
What does "mixtum" stand for? I'm not a native English speaker, and I can't figure it out :P

It comes from Latin language. Word ‘mixtum’ is one of the forms of Latin verb ‘misceō’ which means - to mix. On the other hand, the word 'mixtum' may be divided into two parts: Mix (mixer) and Tum (tumbler), which we see as mixer2 or mixer 2.0

stock exchanges are in fact big mixers that accumulate funds in their wallets.
It's safe to assume exchanges log everything, and keep logs forever. This is the opposite of what a mixer should do.

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Unlike classic mixers, we do not have a link in the blockchain between the investor and the client.
But unlike classic mixers, at least many parts of the mixing process are being logged.

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As you know, stock exchanges require KYC, have withdrawal limits and are against the situation of one user having several accounts. Therefore, the cleansing technology of large amounts of money through stock exchanges using only their accounts is extremely difficult. [banned mixer] solves such problems, buys output transactions through [banned mixer] from independent investors, and resells them to its customers.
The main thing I'm curious about: how does receiving funds from exchanges through your mixer work? Say "a criminal Bitcoin" is deposited, sent to an exchange, and someone else withdraws that same Bitcoin from the same exchange. How does that make it "cleaner"? I expect exchanges to require full KYC and AML from their customers, how can they do business with Bitcoin mixers, who rely on anonymity? You make it sound as if independent investors use their own personal accounts to launder money through exchanges.

Yes, your understanding of how it works in general is close to the truth.
[banned mixer] directly works not with stock exchanges, but with private investors who have personal accounts on different stock exchanges. No doubt, that blockchain and stock exchanges store everything, but by working with different stock exchanges from various countries allows [banned mixer] to diversify the assets which platform uses and to minimize risks of its end users.

Thanks for all your comments. Your feedback has been really helpful and constructive.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on November 21, 2018, 08:50:24 PM
Tested the website with the free mixing service of 0.001btc. Everything went fine and I got received my coins in about 5 hours.
I would also have to say that delay time should be set by the user. While this will increase the security it is a disadvantage because some people would like to receive their coins in a very short time, while others may need their coins only after a longer period of time. Also some users need their coins in a fixed period of time, so they instantly reject your mixer out of their list.
The fee is OK for lower amounts but when we are talking about 10-20 BTC things start to change. My recommendation is to change fees depending of the mixing amount. For example, if the mixing amount exceed 5 BTC the fees will be lowered to 2.5% (just an example, but you got the point).
I like the fact that the generated adress is valid for 7 days. Many mixing services have only a 24-48 hours time frame for addresses wich is not enough to make sure the transaction will receive one confirmation.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on November 29, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
Tested the website with the free mixing service of 0.001btc. Everything went fine and I got received my coins in about 5 hours.

Thank you for taking time to post your feedback in our thread.

I would also have to say that delay time should be set by the user. While this will increase the security it is a disadvantage because some people would like to receive their coins in a very short time, while others may need their coins only after a longer period of time. Also some users need their coins in a fixed period of time, so they instantly reject your mixer out of their list.

We have already mentioned in some of our answers above that a non-adjustable time-frame is a security measure. However, based on the feedback we received from several users here and our recent market research findings, we made a decision to incorporate this in the ‘light mixing’ mode. This option will feature a lower quality of cleansing and level of anonymity compared to the original one, but offer much shorter time frames.


The fee is OK for lower amounts but when we are talking about 10-20 BTC things start to change. My recommendation is to change fees depending of the mixing amount. For example, if the mixing amount exceed 5 BTC the fees will be lowered to 2.5% (just an example, but you got the point).

that's an interesting point we'll think it over

I like the fact that the generated adress is valid for 7 days. Many mixing services have only a 24-48 hours time frame for addresses wich is not enough to make sure the transaction will receive one confirmation.

Again thank you for your feedback


Title: New Website Design! MixTum is now available in Telegram!
Post by: MixTum.io on December 04, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
Hi everyone!

Please welcome our new website layout. We see a lot of value in your feedback and in our attempts to act upon some of the inputs from our 'testers' we made a decision to revamp the design of the /]MixTum website (https://[banned mixer). We can't wait any longer to share this awesome news with all of you. Despite the mobile layout of the website still being under development, its desktop version is already live! The adaptive layout should be ready by the end of this week. Your feedback on our new design would be very much appreciated. Visit /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) and share your thoughts with us.

Moreover, the MixTum mixing service is now available directly through the telegram bot. Find @mixtum_bot and follow the instructions. Very easy to use. Requires no more additional steps on your end.




Title: MixTum goes multilingual: the website will appear in English,German and Russian
Post by: MixTum.io on February 18, 2019, 08:38:22 PM
Hello everyone!

MixTum has been off the radar lately but we haven’t been sitting idly. The multiple requests regarding the extension of language options our clients kept putting in have finally been sorted out. From now on, /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) will operate in two more languages - German and Russian.

Please note that adding new language options means website localization and we will continue providing technical support only in English for the time being.

We feel excited about making our mixing services more available and comprehensive for new audiences around the world. What languages would you like to see enabled on our website? Maybe Español? Français? Comment below.

Meanwhile, we invite German and Russian native speakers to help us with proof-reading. Your feedback will be highly appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on March 28, 2019, 12:06:07 PM
Even for computer and internet geeks it can be mind-blowing to protect themselves from being cheated as almost every day digital world prepares new sophisticated tricks and hacking possibilities. No one is insured against scammers who do not sleep to steal our private data or money.
Be aware that fake onion addresses are widely spread and we kindly ask you to be attentive and check the TOR address you are going to visit twice before sending money anywhere. If you want to use [banned mixer] service for mixing btc and stay maximum anonymous, you may use our official TOR mirror which is the one and the only mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion (http://mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion). 
You may try how our TOR version works any time by executing free trial.  Please be informed that the transaction amount has to be 0,001 BTC (not less or more) and only one forward address can be used.
We invite you to leave a short review about our service on our official bitcointalk thread. We are very particular about every comment our clients leave.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on April 16, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
Hi guys,
Since it became obvious for everybody that all bitcoin transactions can be easily tracked and a person’s identity revealed, tech-savvy members of community figured out a number of ways around. If some of you still hesitate and do not know what measure is the most secure and reliable, we offer you a short list of options to keep privacy and stay anonymous.
1.    TOR browser
Your internet traffic is encrypted and routed to random computer nodes before it reaches its final destination. This measure does not allow to point your internet activities to your IP, so you can not be identified as a real person
2.   Logless VPN
This is a similar way to using TOR browser if one wants to improve the privacy of bitcoin transactions. The thing is that VPN is a network in which the history of the internet traffic is not stored anywhere on servers. All information is also encrypted and routed throughout multiple computers in different locations.
3.   New addresses for every new transaction
Bitcoin holders sometimes resort to generating new receiving addresses every time they get bitcoins from anywhere. Probably it can be useful for those who use BTC regularly.
4.   Buying/selling BTC in cash
Some bitcoin users prefer doing  face-to-face cash transactions. There is no need to look for associates in different forums as there are several platforms or services which unite people with similar aims.
5.   Join Market
Not a service, nor a software. It is like a real market where there are two parties: those who want to hide the history of BTC transactions and those who provide their coins just to make nominal transactions.
6.   Bitcoin mixing
Using bitcoin mixers (also known as tumblers) helps to  break the link between Bitcoin addresses. Coins of different users are shuffled and after that are returned to customers at different addresses. So, it is hardly possible to find the connection between BTC addresses and real people. 

If you have read this post till the end, we have a tiny bonus for you to offer. If you have not used BTC mixers so far and you are interested in experiencing how it works, we can suggest carrying out free trial of [banned mixer]. Just be informed that the transaction amount has to be 0,001 BTC and only one forward address can be used. Write to us if you want to try!


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on April 18, 2019, 12:23:41 PM
Hi guys,

If you have not heard a lot about [banned mixer] and do not want to spend much time on reading the whole thread and looking for necessary information, just go to see  what Faucethub.io published about us  https://faucethub.io/news/post/194

Share your comments and ask questions, if any.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on April 30, 2019, 12:40:31 PM
We value our clients’ right for security and we understand very well that in order to gain reputation of a reliable and trustful service we need to assure our obligations towards clients. As it is common in crypto world, for every mixing operation we issue a Letter of Guarantee. Every such letter is accompanied by a digital PGP signature which constitutes infallible cryptographic proof of authenticity and integrity of the message.
Any time you can verify the signature to confirm that the letter was indeed issued by [banned mixer]. To do it, you may install, for example, Gpg4win software.
If you have any questions regarding your security and privacy while using [banned mixer], please write them to us. We are 24/7 available by e-mail mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com   



Title: Our money convert in your experience: [banned mixer] gives coins for free testing
Post by: MixTum.io on May 08, 2019, 02:06:10 PM
Since bitcoin has gradually risen since the beginning of April, we are more actively involved in btc transactions and more cheerful about its future.  In this regard, we again decided to launch our “test-for-free” campaign, and when we say “for free” this is indeed so. You do not need to spend your own btc for testing, but we provide you with the minimum amount to execute one mixing operation.  How and for whom does it work?

-   You need to have Senior or higher rank to participate (Hurry up! We will offer free testing for ONLY first twenty members who will write to us)
-   Write us your btc address to which we will send you 0,0015 btc
-   Go to our official website https://[banned mixer] or its TOR version  mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion
-   Start mixing

In return we are expecting you to leave a detailed review about our mixer. For more details and terms of participation, please read this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.0

By the way, this is a good opportunity to try a new mixer and opt for top-notch reliable and secure service ;)    


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: TryNinja on May 08, 2019, 02:12:51 PM
Maybe I can try? :D

1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: LoyceV on May 08, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
I've been a "tester" in October, and I'd like to test again. My addy is in my profile:
bc1qwd9pg4a6yejnpaakp58vwc759kgyf5x2qunuu8 (if Bech32 is allowed by now)
or: 1PjpEgknyKxQKXtMcYFDym8odkfohFGkui

After mixing, I'll give anyone a week to find the mixed coins. If they're found, the finder can have them.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: khaled0111 on May 09, 2019, 10:37:46 AM
It looks like a completely different mixer from the one I tested last time. I would like to test it again and leave my review about the updates.

btc address: 1FrmfRaxZ1VMQTQoGastorLaxRtzjxhGMv


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - paid but brutally honest review from Royse777
Post by: AB de Royse777 on May 09, 2019, 10:49:55 AM
This is a paid  (http://archive.is/Yy5A3)review, which I was asked to post after testing their system. However I will be brutally honest with my review. I will not sell my soul only for 0.00127571BTC :-P

For the time being my review will be limited to the below features:
The speed,
Accuracy,
User interface,
Website design


The speed: Intentionally I picked very low tx fee (5 sat/B) so the tx took +485 to confirmed. I knew it will take a long time. So I left it for the night. After waking up I found my money is in my (given) address. So, I had to do the calculation to see the time duration.

I received the coins from two tx.
The first one was sent in less than an hour of me broadcasting my tx. My broadcast still needed 7+ hours to confirm.
The 2nd tx was sent after 6+ hours of me broadcasting my tx.
So, if I am not wrong then I got my coins even before the coins got confirmed that I sent them.

Accuracy: I received the coins that I was promised.

User interface: Very simple I would say. There are no digging, no messing around to find the features. Everything you need to mix the coins is in the front page. Click few buttons and follow the on screen instructions.

Website design: Decent looking. The design focused more on information then visual presentation. Good to see there are no flashy contents. Plain and simple.

LetterGuarantee gives a peace in mind that if anything unexpected issue happens then their PGP message is not gonna lie. Always download the copy after you sent the coins.


Like I said earlier, the above review was based on the four feature which should be understandable from my review that they have done good job however the anonymity part is very important. And I think I need few days to figure it out. So I leave a challenge below.

Extended Challenge: This was the address (bc1qa7zaqnnay9xtct3nxzdmk96ftct5frddc7ecdu) I had my btc which was sent to mix. I am giving anyone to find the mixing coins and where they ended. If found then you will keep the fund (00127571BTC-tx fees).

Cheers :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on May 09, 2019, 12:40:30 PM
Maybe I can try? :D

1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L

Hi, thank you for your interest. Could you please reply us that you want to take part in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.msg50952614#msg50952614

After that we will include you in the list of participants.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on May 09, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
I've been a "tester" in October, and I'd like to test again. My addy is in my profile:
bc1qwd9pg4a6yejnpaakp58vwc759kgyf5x2qunuu8 (if Bech32 is allowed by now)
or: 1PjpEgknyKxQKXtMcYFDym8odkfohFGkui

After mixing, I'll give anyone a week to find the mixed coins. If they're found, the finder can have them.

Hi, thank you for your interest. Could you please reply us that you want to take part in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.msg50952614#msg50952614

After that we will include you in the list of participants.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on May 09, 2019, 12:47:19 PM
It looks like a completely different mixer from the one I tested last time. I would like to test it again and leave my review about the updates.

btc address: 1FrmfRaxZ1VMQTQoGastorLaxRtzjxhGMv

Hi, thank you for your interest. Could you please reply us that you want to take part in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.msg50952614#msg50952614

After that we will include you in the list of participants.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: MixTum.io on May 15, 2019, 11:55:48 AM
Dear [banned mixer] users,
Let us remind you that in [banned mixer] cleansing time needed to effectively perform mixing process can achieve up to 6 hours. This is the optimal  transfer delay for the system to choose the best options for transit wallets. Though inconvenient, this is an additional measure to keep transactions anonymous and can be mostly appreciated by those for whom privacy really matters.   
This 6-hours period starts as soon as incoming transaction gets the first confirmation in the blockchain. However, due to the fact that sometimes Bitcoin network experiences high load, your transaction can wait a lot to be confirmed and consequently you will get your money back later.
Please keep it in mind if you need your money back urgently.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - paid but brutally honest review from Royse777
Post by: Thirdspace on June 02, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
I received the coins from two tx.
The first one was sent in less than an hour of me broadcasting my tx. My broadcast still needed 7+ hours to confirm.
The 2nd tx was sent after 6+ hours of me broadcasting my tx.
So, if I am not wrong then I got my coins even before the coins got confirmed that I sent them.
~
Extended Challenge: This was the address (bc1qa7zaqnnay9xtct3nxzdmk96ftct5frddc7ecdu) I had my btc which was sent to mix. I am giving anyone to find the mixing coins and where they ended. If found then you will keep the fund (00127571BTC-tx fees).

ok this is probably way too late, I'm not really into the prize just curious if I got it right
is this your address? https://btc.com/165Sb86xMpvgjKFfUNSv9Qa6UsSREfH462
total received and timestamps on incoming transactions in this address match your transaction descriptions :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - paid but brutally honest review from Royse777
Post by: AB de Royse777 on June 02, 2019, 03:40:36 PM
I received the coins from two tx.
The first one was sent in less than an hour of me broadcasting my tx. My broadcast still needed 7+ hours to confirm.
The 2nd tx was sent after 6+ hours of me broadcasting my tx.
So, if I am not wrong then I got my coins even before the coins got confirmed that I sent them.
~
Extended Challenge: This was the address (bc1qa7zaqnnay9xtct3nxzdmk96ftct5frddc7ecdu) I had my btc which was sent to mix. I am giving anyone to find the mixing coins and where they ended. If found then you will keep the fund (00127571BTC-tx fees).

ok this is probably way too late, I'm not really into the prize just curious if I got it right
is this your address? https://btc.com/165Sb86xMpvgjKFfUNSv9Qa6UsSREfH462
total received and timestamps on incoming transactions in this address match your transaction descriptions :D
Okay unfortunately yes this is the address where I received the coins. This means I owe you (00127571BTC-tx fees) BTC.

Now my question to [banned mixer] (MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer) what went wrong? If this can be found then I believe MixTum is not doing that they were suppose to do.

I have no idea about the technical knowledge Thirdspace have, but if he can find it then for the big corporations/agents it should be very easy.

I am looking forward to the answers.


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - paid but brutally honest review from Royse777
Post by: Thirdspace on June 03, 2019, 01:39:00 AM
Okay unfortunately yes this is the address where I received the coins. This means I owe you (00127571BTC-tx fees) BTC.
no, you don't owe me. I don't deserve it, read explanation below

Now my question to [banned mixer] (MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer) what went wrong? If this can be found then I believe MixTum is not doing that they were suppose to do.
it is not mixtum fault, but you disclosed too much information of your mix result
knowing the exact output amount, the start/end mix time, and approximate delay time gives me pointers
however the mixer definitely breaks the connection between your old and new coin
there's no visible evidence to link them based on blockchain analysis alone


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - paid but brutally honest review from Royse777
Post by: AB de Royse777 on June 03, 2019, 04:04:23 AM
Okay unfortunately yes this is the address where I received the coins. This means I owe you (00127571BTC-tx fees) BTC.
no, you don't owe me. I don't deserve it, read explanation below

Now my question to [banned mixer] (MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer) what went wrong? If this can be found then I believe MixTum is not doing that they were suppose to do.
it is not mixtum fault, but you disclosed too much information of your mix result
knowing the exact output amount, the start/end mix time, and approximate delay time gives me pointers
however the mixer definitely breaks the connection between your old and new coin
there's no visible evidence to link them based on blockchain analysis alone


I got your PM and thanks for the response. Good to know that there were no issue from the mixing side. I had no idea that tx timing could be a pointer to find a tx. I though it's hard to find a specific tx in a block :-P


Title: Scheduled Maintenance
Post by: MixTum.io on June 12, 2019, 08:28:52 AM
Hello,

Starting from Wednesday, June 12, 2019, the MixTum Technical Support team will be doing planned maintenance on our website. During that time, you may not be able to access the site, but you can still reach technical support by email: mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com.

As soon as the maintenance will be done we will inform you with an additional post here.

Thank you for your understanding.

---
MixTum Tech Support
[banned mixer] - Because your privacy really matters!


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on June 12, 2019, 12:52:19 PM
The maintenance is now complete, and the website is working normally.
Thanks again for your interest in our services!


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] released Precise Payment Mode❗
Post by: MixTum.io on June 20, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
During the last month we received a lot of feedback about /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) performance and usability. One of the important conclusions we have made is that our users would like to have more flexibility. Well, we hope you will like the new mode we have added to /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) – ‘Precise Payment’.

https://i.imgur.com/abzEmcW.jpg?2

The new feature will allow users to decide how exactly the incoming to mixer BTC amount will be split up between two receiving addresses. From now on, if you need to send coins securely to any recipient or crypto exchanges, you can use the Precise Payment mode to have the system forward a specific amount to the destination BTC address. Any funds left over after anonymization (payment) will be returned to the BTC change address. The minimum amount intended for mixing through Precise Payment mode is 0,001 BTC.

https://i.imgur.com/8RNoBxO.jpg?1

The new mode is accessible from the main page of /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) via the Precise Payment button. Click this button, enter the two receiving addresses (destination address and change address) and enter the amount you want to go to the destination address. Proceed to the next page and send recommended amount of BTC to the displayed address. If you transfer less than the recommended amount to the specified address, /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer) will still transfer the whole amount, minus the commission and the network fee, to the destination address. Your money will be returned within the allotted 6 hours.

https://i.imgur.com/LJGo16C.jpg?2

Transact anonymously and accurately with the updated functionality of /][banned mixer] (https://[banned mixer)!



Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: asritajudin on June 24, 2019, 11:19:03 AM
I confirmed to have received a total sum of 0.0015 btc testing funds from [banned mixer].

This is my honest review about the service.

A lot of reviews have been written about the service and there is no need for undue repetition.

CONS

The service will be better if the receiving time can be shorter than 6 hours
Expected funds should be sent at once and not separated into 2 parts
The website is not fully mobile friendly, this can be noticed in the calculator section where the value can not be less than 1 btc.
Once funds is sent, the first confirmation doe not appear on the process page.

PROS
Nice and simple interface
The process will still be completed once the payment is detected even if the link is closed.
The processing fees is relatively cheap.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to review your services.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: TryNinja on June 27, 2019, 09:09:15 PM
The remaining funds have yet to arrive and I've received no answer to my query, neither through email nor here. The service might well be a complete scam, luckily for me I didn't put it many coins.
Did you save the Letter of Guarantee when mixing?

If you don't mind, you may share it to prove that you really did mix and haven't received your coins.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: TryNinja on June 27, 2019, 10:27:52 PM
Yes I did. I'm not researched enough yet to know the implications of sharing that, but I might share it (or parts of it) when I know more.
If you share it, anyone can know from where you sent the coins, and to which address you're mixing to. Basically, you will be making public the connection between your first address and the destination (which may be a bad thing, since you're using a mixer to stay private after all).

I would wait a little bit for an answer. Maybe there was an technical issue on their server or something like this? If they don't answer you and you don't receive the coins, you can create a scam flag against them and either release the Latter, or send it to me (if you feel comfortable on doing so) or any other trusted user so we can support your flag and put a warning on top of their thread.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: Thirdspace on June 27, 2019, 11:49:05 PM
The remaining funds have yet to arrive and I've received no answer to my query, neither through email nor here. The service might well be a complete scam, luckily for me I didn't put it many coins.
you mixed your coin just recently within a day or two, as you said ~36h
the remaining fund might got stuck due to the recent massive transaction numbers and fee spike
do you see any unconfirmed incoming transaction at all?
if not, then they may have issue with transaction processing and payment scheduling :-\


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceV on June 28, 2019, 06:04:14 AM
Yes I did. I'm not researched enough yet to know the implications of sharing that, but I might share it (or parts of it) when I know more.
Sharing the Letter of Guarantee means someone knows your old and new address. That compromises your privacy. If you share it by PM on this forum, "the forum" and probably Cloudflare knows it too.

The Letter of Guarantee is the only way to prove funds were stolen. Read this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4469056.0) to see how I handled such a case a year ago.
If the Letter of Guarantee can't be verified, you might have used a fake website.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: MixTum.io on July 05, 2019, 05:32:02 AM
Dear friends,

A while ago we added a new update in [banned mixer] –Precise Payment – which allows to decide how much BTC users want to receive to the first/second receiving addresses after mixing. This is quite useful especially if one needs to send money anywhere or pay in BTC and receive the change back.
In this regard we started a new Review Campaign during which we are expecting you to leave honest reviews about the new feature and in return we will send all participants 0,0015 BTC. This will be your reward.
The link to the campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161841.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161841.0)
All members who took part in our first campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.80  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.80)are welcome to join us again.

Looking forward to your feedback. 


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: CloudflareBot on July 15, 2019, 08:51:50 AM
>  Because Your Privacy Matters
nice slogan, let's check how the f*ck you follow it:


1. Cloudflare, again f*cking cloudflare around all "ANONYMOUS" mixers here, stop providing bullshit service:
Name Server: JEROME.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LANA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
[banned mixer] [104.31.78.226]
all requests are logged and provided to any authorities by request, be sure.
2. A bit analytics never hurt for mixer right?  ;D
Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
<noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-N9BKPJ5"
height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript>
<!-- End Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
3. Did someone heard about bestmixer? shit mixer located in NL/LX and seized recently?
MIXTUM WANNA BE THE NEXT ONE!  ;D
HELLO, EUROPOL, CAN YOU PLEASE CHECK THIS ONE LOCATED IN NETHERLANDS? http://185.243.113.180  ;D
You can ez check that it's true server location by taking down this ip via any SYN/UDP/etc flood, onion and cloudflare shit will not be responsible.

well that shit secure and anonymous as hell  ;D, feel free to use it and wait for seize with all logs  ;D


Title: MAINTENANCE ANNOUNCEMENT
Post by: MixTum.io on August 01, 2019, 08:18:51 PM
Hi everyone,

We are about to run some maintenance on our clearnet website, [banned mixer]. It may become unavailable for some time. Our TOR-mirror and the Telegram bot will remain fully functional the whole time.

As always, you can reach us at mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com with any problems or concerns.

As soon as the maintenance will be done we will inform you with an additional post here.

Thank you for your understanding.


Title: MAINTENANCE COMPLETED
Post by: MixTum.io on August 02, 2019, 05:11:01 PM
Alright, it's all done now.
Thanks everyone for your patience and sorry if any inconvenience was caused.
All MixTum services are back to normal operation.


Title: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 06, 2019, 07:00:49 PM
Hello everyone,

Especially those who are still pessimistic on using [banned mixer] service due to some security reasons. Please be informed that we recently resolved all security concerns which were mentioned during last two review campaigns. [banned mixer] doesn't use CloudFlare anymore. Moreover, we've moved to a new more stable and secure hosting. 

We at [banned mixer] know that privacy matters most of all for cryptocurrency holders, and we have tried to do our best to take into consideration most suggestions of our reviewers and users.

As usual, for more security we recommend to use our official TOR-mirror:  mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion


Title: Re: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: TryNinja on August 06, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
Especially those who are still pessimistic on using [banned mixer] service due to some security reasons. Please be informed that we recently resolved all security concerns which were mentioned during last two review campaigns. [banned mixer] doesn't use CloudFlare anymore. Moreover, we've moved to a new more stable and secure hosting.  

We at [banned mixer] know that privacy matters most of all for cryptocurrency holders, and we have tried to do our best to take into consideration most suggestions of our reviewers and users.
And yet you still keep using Google Analytics... You are literally injecting Google's JS on your website.

Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager -->
<script>(function(w,d,s,l,i){w[l]=w[l]||[];w[l].push({'gtm.start':
new Date().getTime(),event:'gtm.js'});var f=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],
j=d.createElement(s),dl=l!='dataLayer'?'&l='+l:'';j.async=true;j.src=
'https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtm.js?id='+i+dl;f.parentNode.insertBefore(j,f);
})(window,document,'script','dataLayer','GTM-N9BKPJ5');</script>
<!-- End Google Tag Manager -->

Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
<noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-N9BKPJ5"
height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript>

That's as bad as having CloudFlare as your middleware.


Title: Re: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 06, 2019, 07:48:19 PM
Especially those who are still pessimistic on using [banned mixer] service due to some security reasons. Please be informed that we recently resolved all security concerns which were mentioned during last two review campaigns. [banned mixer] doesn't use CloudFlare anymore. Moreover, we've moved to a new more stable and secure hosting.  

We at [banned mixer] know that privacy matters most of all for cryptocurrency holders, and we have tried to do our best to take into consideration most suggestions of our reviewers and users.
And yet you still keep using Google Analytics... You are literally injecting Google's JS on your website.

Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager -->
<script>(function(w,d,s,l,i){w[l]=w[l]||[];w[l].push({'gtm.start':
new Date().getTime(),event:'gtm.js'});var f=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],
j=d.createElement(s),dl=l!='dataLayer'?'&l='+l:'';j.async=true;j.src=
'https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtm.js?id='+i+dl;f.parentNode.insertBefore(j,f);
})(window,document,'script','dataLayer','GTM-N9BKPJ5');</script>
<!-- End Google Tag Manager -->

Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
<noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-N9BKPJ5"
height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript>

That's as bad as having CloudFlare as your middleware.

We understand that privacy-aware individuals hate Google and trackers in general, and for good reasons. But after all, we are a business, and we'd like to have at least some kind of statistics on how our website is doing compared to competitors.

If you think your threat model makes Analytics unacceptable, you have at least two ways to work around it:
- Use any browser extension that blocks trackers, e.g. uBlock Origin.
- Use our TOR mirror instead of the clearnet website.


Title: Re: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: TryNinja on August 06, 2019, 07:52:06 PM
We understand that privacy-aware individuals hate Google and trackers in general, and for good reasons. But after all, we are a business, and we'd like to have at least some kind of statistics on how our website is doing compared to competitors.

If you think your threat model makes Analytics unacceptable, you have at least two ways to work around it:
- Use any browser extension that blocks trackers, e.g. uBlock Origin.
- Use our TOR mirror instead of the clearnet website.
Sorry, but that's not an excuse. How can you put "Because Your Privacy Matters" in the title of the thread but prefer to know how "your business is doing" than actually preserving the user's privacy? What the heck? Isn't that what all big companies do? Google and Facebook track their users because its part of their "business". Sorry for the hate, but what an hypocrite... wtf.

Do you want to know how you're doing? Save only an approximate of the amount mixed in your website, without linking it to the actual user. X mixed in the last week and this kind of stuff. Or the only way of knowing how much people are using is by using freaking Google for it? Having people need to use an extension to block your tracking is absolutely not a solution.


Title: Re: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 06, 2019, 08:22:52 PM
Having people need to use an extension to block your tracking is absolutely not a solution.
I didn't say it is a solution, only a workaround.

Save only an approximate of the amount mixed in your website, without linking it to the actual user.
I can answer to this with your own words: this isn't really a solution. We'd like to know how many distinct users are visiting, from what countries, and what search queries they used to find us.
We've been considering alternatives, but so far haven't stopped on anything specific.
Tell me, would you feel better if we used analytics from a smaller company and not an IT giant like Google?
Feel free to make other suggestions, too, perhaps your experience will come in handy.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: malevolent on August 07, 2019, 03:19:08 PM
Feel free to make other suggestions

It's up to you, but since you're asking, nowadays there are several functional self-hosted open source web analytics solutions on the market which aren't a bad alternative to Google Analytics:

https://medevel.com/best-20-open-source-free-self-hosted-web-analytics/


Title: Re: 📣Addressing security concerns🛡️
Post by: AB de Royse777 on August 07, 2019, 03:28:33 PM
Tell me, would you feel better if we used analytics from a smaller company and not an IT giant like Google?
Problem here is that Privacy and Google both do not go together. Google made fortune using the customers data. Data is their business so people like us who are concern about their privacy they tend to avoid google.

You can follow Chipmixer. See how they are handling things. Learn from them. I believe Chipmixer get most of their customers from this forum and talking about google ranking and to see where are the traffics are coming from etc etc? Once you will have decent traffic and good business you will not bother about all these at all. When people will know you like ChipMixer then they will find you.

If you can not satisfy us who were with you for the last few months then how would you think that you will satisfy your future clients. Always do business with positive move and create a positive vibes around. Wish you best of luck.

Cheers :-)


Title: IMPORTANT: SCAM SITE SPOTTED
Post by: MixTum.io on August 19, 2019, 08:41:27 PM
Friends,
It seems we have become popular enough to acquire our very own scam clone.
This website is an exact copy of our own and has a very similar domain name: mixtun.io.
It also appears to be actively advertising itself on Google by the "mixtum" keyword.
I'm afraid we have no good way to protect you from this, we can only urge you to be extra careful and always watch what address you are opening.
Stay safe!

https://i.imgur.com/gHnjQFk.png


Title: Re: IMPORTANT: SCAM SITE SPOTTED
Post by: LoyceV on August 19, 2019, 09:01:18 PM
It also appears to be actively advertising itself on Google by the "mixtum" keyword.
You can Report phishing (https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en) to Google, but from my experience they don't seem to care much (while they earn from it).


Title: Re: IMPORTANT: SCAM SITE SPOTTED
Post by: MixTum.io on August 20, 2019, 06:50:23 PM
It also appears to be actively advertising itself on Google by the "mixtum" keyword.
You can Report phishing (https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en) to Google, but from my experience they don't seem to care much (while they earn from it).
Thanks for the advice LoyceV. We followed it.


Title: DDOS ATTACK IN PROGRESS — STABILITY ISSUES POSSIBLE
Post by: MixTum.io on September 09, 2019, 05:45:21 PM
Friends,
Please be informed that we are currently under a DoS attack (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack), especially our TOR-mirror.
Stability and responsiveness of the service may suffer.
We are working on the problem, but in the meantime we advise that you refrain from using our TOR-mirror to access our services and use the Telegram bot instead.

https://i.imgur.com/fl5rTE7.jpg


Title: [banned mixer] 1 Year Anniversary🎂🎁🎈🎉
Post by: MixTum.io on September 12, 2019, 08:08:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Me0d4em.png?1

Hello Friends!

It's been a little over a year since we officially launched ][banned mixer] (http://[banned mixer), our premium Bitcoin mixer powered by a unique coin tumbling algorithm.

We set out on a rather ambitious task: to create a Bitcoin mixer which offers convenience and ease of use, but at the same time provides top tier mixing with unprecedented anonymity.

It is clear, though, that anonymity takes precedence over user experience, but fortunately the mixing algorithm we use takes care of that. It is unorthodox, but really good. It also indirectly helps to make the process simpler, since it removes the need for the user to pay attention to all the knobs and settings that traditional mixers have. Those simply aren't needed with our approach. Combine that with a minimalist, uncluttered website design, and you get a very approachable, distraction-free service that can be further improved as time goes by.

And improve we did. The standard website template we started from was acceptable, but we felt like giving it an overhaul, so it is distinctive and focuses precisely on what our mixer wants to be.

Also, a Tor hidden service was set up, giving its users peace of mind when working with the website (especially since the site remains functional with JavaScript fully disabled).

And to top that off, we started providing our services through a Telegram bot as well, which turned out to be even simpler to use than the website itself, at least for mobile users.

As the awareness spread and users from all around the world started to place mixing orders, a decision was made to translate MixTum into more languages. Specifically, we added German and Russian languages, in addition to English. For the time being this covers the demographics of our customers reasonably well, but more translations may be in order in the future.

Quite a few Bitcoin users have become our customers, and some of them provided us with valuable feedback. All this time we've been communicating with you, analysing your impressions and experiences and taking action to make our services better. We want to thank the Bitcoin community for all your advice and constructive criticism.

The Precise Payment mode became a relatively recent extension of ][banned mixer] (http://[banned mixer) functionality. It still involves mixing internally, but unlike the regular mixing procedure, it lets you deliver a precise amount of coins to the output address of your choosing. This makes it suitable for making fully anonymous payments to sellers and service providers that accept Bitcoin. We hope this mode proves a useful and relevant addition to our services.

Finally, we've taken some decisive measures to harden our hosting security and further reduce the risk of compromising our customers. We moved our hosting server outside the EU, to a place where laws are more favourable for projects like ours. At the same time we stopped using Cloudflare as the middle layer between the website and the clients. While it was helping to protect the site from attacks, it was also raising some concerns related to user privacy, so we ultimately decided that Cloudflare's services were no longer required.

All in all, it has been a productive year, and it has become clear that ][banned mixer] (http://[banned mixer) is here to stay.

Thank you for your business, and remember: your privacy matters!


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: CloudflareBot on September 13, 2019, 09:15:45 AM
>  Because Your Privacy Matters
nice slogan, let's check how the f*ck you follow it:


1. Cloudflare, again f*cking cloudflare around all "ANONYMOUS" mixers here, stop providing bullshit service:
Name Server: JEROME.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LANA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
[banned mixer] [104.31.78.226]
all requests are logged and provided to any authorities by request, be sure.
2. A bit analytics never hurt for mixer right?  ;D
Code:
<!-- Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
<noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-N9BKPJ5"
height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript>
<!-- End Google Tag Manager (noscript) -->
3. Did someone heard about bestmixer? shit mixer located in NL/LX and seized recently?
MIXTUM WANNA BE THE NEXT ONE!  ;D
HELLO, EUROPOL, CAN YOU PLEASE CHECK THIS ONE LOCATED IN NETHERLANDS? http://185.243.113.180  ;D
You can ez check that it's true server location by taking down this ip via any SYN/UDP/etc flood, onion and cloudflare shit will not be responsible.

well that shit secure and anonymous as hell  ;D, feel free to use it and wait for seize with all logs  ;D

this mixer is still shit, do not use it if you don't wanna be tracked by google/NL authorities and so on.
your privacy doesn't matter for these guys, keep away.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on October 09, 2019, 08:12:44 PM
this mixer is still shit, do not use it if you don't wanna be tracked by google/NL authorities and so on.
your privacy doesn't matter for these guys, keep away.

You should express your concerns more calmly and respectfully if you want to be heard.
People will question you more if you are so vocal and aggressive with your opinions. Just a little life advice.

Everything you state in that earlier post you quoted is no longer true.
No Cloudflare, no Netherlands, and no Google either.

Please double-check your facts before posting them and don't mislead the community.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on November 13, 2019, 08:39:49 PM

Friends!

Yesterday, due to a server malfunction, some customers experienced abnormal delays in the mixing process, which in their case took longer than advertised.
If you are one of them, we'd like to apologize. To compensate for this inconvenience, we will shortly return the commission you were charged to your respective output addresses.

Thank you for choosing us and we hope to see you again!



Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceMobile on November 13, 2019, 08:44:36 PM
we will shortly return the commission you were charged to your respective output addresses.
Isn't that a privacy risk?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on November 14, 2019, 07:29:07 PM
we will shortly return the commission you were charged to your respective output addresses.
Isn't that a privacy risk?
Shouldn't be any less private than a normal transfer from our system.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: TryNinja on November 14, 2019, 08:44:14 PM
Shouldn't be any less private than a normal transfer from our system.
- Address A sends X BTC to another address.
- Address B receives X BTC minus commission Y = final amount Z.
- Commission Y is sent to Address B (because of malfunction).
- Analyst knows Z because it is X minus Y.

Shouldn't it be fairly easy to figure out these addresses by this pattern?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceMobile on November 14, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
Shouldn't it be fairly easy to figure out these addresses by this pattern?
That's what I was thinking.
Normally, the commission is a random amount, so the refund should at least be random too.
And this won't help the users who paid a third party directly.


Title: [banned mixer] New Videos
Post by: MixTum.io on December 03, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
Hey folks,

Check our video tutorial on [banned mixer] service. We recently uploaded it to the website to let visitors learn how to use both modes offered by [banned mixer]: High Anonymity Mixing and Precise Payment.

Video is available here - https://[banned mixer]/?videos

There is also one more video published on this page, which describes the necessity of using Bitcoin mixers, how do they work, and what are the limitations of Bitcoin in terms of privacy/anonymity.

Your feedback will be highly appreciated.

/?videos]https://i.imgur.com/h3kdkv1.jpg?1 (https://[banned mixer)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] New Videos
Post by: LoyceV on January 16, 2020, 06:28:34 PM
Letter guarantee => https://ibb.co/zQz9MB9 (https://ibb.co/zQz9MB9)
Can you post it here in [ code]-tags for verification?

And, if legit, can you create a Scam Accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) topic including the signed message, so you can create a Trust Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) against the user?
This requires proof though, and I'm not going to type a signed message from a screenshot :P

I noticed this is the second mixer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207219.msg53616297#msg53616297) you're accusing.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: laptop69 on January 16, 2020, 07:16:11 PM
Oups, Sorry

A new transaction has just appeared at 8:00 p.m. It is the first time that I see a mixer making 2 transactions at different times on the same address. ( https://ibb.co/xFHr8W7

I will delete my post


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceMobile on January 16, 2020, 07:18:44 PM
I will delete my post
Since you've published the addresses, you should mix the funds again if you want it to be private.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: laptop69 on January 16, 2020, 07:29:41 PM
Yes,

I'm going to remix again on Mixtum. Usually I use anonymix but I want to mix the mixers.


Title: Mixing temporarily unavailable
Post by: MixTum.io on February 05, 2020, 03:22:03 PM

Due to maintenance at the mixing backend, the mixing services of [banned mixer] are temporarily out of commission.
We hope operation will be restored quickly and apologize for the downtime.



Title: Re: Mixing temporarily unavailable
Post by: MixTum.io on February 06, 2020, 06:21:42 AM
Due to maintenance at the mixing backend, the mixing services of [banned mixer] are temporarily out of commission.
We hope operation will be restored quickly and apologize for the downtime.

The service is operational once again. Thank you for understanding.



Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: seleme on March 18, 2020, 09:48:39 PM
Since the thread is inactive and there is no update after the last post, I tried to contact the official mail of [banned mixer]. The sent mail was returned to the sender and it looks like the service mail is not used for a long time. I checked the other mail addresses under the same mail service provider and everything is ok except mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com. Please confirm both clearnet and onion mixing service work normally. There is no alternative option to contact with developers for confirming such cases (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233805.0).

https://i.imgur.com/0OiDwrS.jpg


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on March 20, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
Since the thread is inactive and there is no update after the last post, I tried to contact the official mail of [banned mixer]. The sent mail was returned to the sender and it looks like the service mail is not used for a long time. I checked the other mail addresses under the same mail service provider and everything is ok except mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com. Please confirm both clearnet and onion mixing service work normally. There is no alternative option to contact with developers for confirming such cases (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233805.0).

This is odd; we've kept receiving new mail to mixtum_mixer@protonmail.com as usual... Could be a temporary failure on Protonmail's part — I noticed it says the connection timed out on mailsec.protonmail.ch on your screenshot.

Anyway, MixTum is operational (both the clearnet site and the Tor mirror). Everything works smoothly, orders keep coming in.

And I see that the scam thread has already been taken care of. Thanks seleme and everyone who reported this for your vigilance!


Title: ⚠ Important Changes to [banned mixer] Mixing Terms ⚠
Post by: MixTum.io on May 26, 2020, 01:49:51 PM

⚠ Important Changes to [banned mixer] Mixing Terms ⚠

Due to the recent halving of Bitcoin and the spike in transaction fees caused by it, many crypto-related services are having to update their offers, and we have faced the same necessity.

To avoid processing smaller orders at a loss, the minimum amount for mixing and the fixed part of the mixing commission will have to be increased.
  • The minimum amount for mixing will be raised from 0.001 to 0.005 BTC.
  • The fixed part of the commission will be raised from 0.00015 to 0.0007 BTC.

These changes will be effective starting from June 1, 2020.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: fghjhiiiuytdssxvbbb on June 28, 2020, 09:56:29 AM
Hello, you and [banned mixer] Which control customer payment address? Can you tell me how the workflow works?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on June 30, 2020, 12:55:15 PM
Hello, you and [banned mixer] Which control customer payment address? Can you tell me how the workflow works?

Hi,

The input address for customer's coins is generated by [banned mixer] and passed to us for every new order.

You'll have to elaborate what you'd like to know about the "workflow" in particular. I'm afraid describing all of it here would be too long. If you are just looking for a general overview, you can read up on this at [banned mixer] itself, they describe it rather well.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: fghjhiiiuytdssxvbbb on June 30, 2020, 11:45:44 PM
Quote from: MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer
I am very interested in your advanced mixed currency project [banned mixer
If you buy bitcoin through the world's major exchanges and send them to customers, then 5% of the fee is worth the money. But how can you be sure that you buy bitcoin to customers through exchanges?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: fghjhiiiuytdssxvbbb on July 01, 2020, 12:30:05 AM
Hello, if someone wants to mix 2000 BTC, I would like to ask if you have the ability to mix several thousand BTC in a day?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on July 03, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
But how can you be sure that you buy bitcoin to customers through exchanges?

This can be tested with blockchain analysis tools such as Bitfury Crystal (https://crystalblockchain.com/) and others.

Hello, if someone wants to mix 2000 BTC, I would like to ask if you have the ability to mix several thousand BTC in a day?

We would advise to mix up to 150—200BTC per day, in batches of 50BTC or less. This will let you maintain the high anonymity level intended by the service. If you are interested in larger amounts, perhaps we can work out individual terms for you, if you reach out to us by email.


Title: ✉️ New Support Mailbox ✉️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 09, 2020, 01:59:28 PM

A small update this time: we have finally set up a new support email on our own domain.

Please direct all your inquiries to support (at) mixtum (dot) io from now on.

Not only is this address easier to remember and faster to type, but it will let us maintain control over the address and ensure it will not change if we ever have to switch email providers.

We may have lost some of your emails during this transition, so if you wrote to us during the last week or so and didn't get any reply, please repeat your email to the new address above, and we will be happy to help you.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on August 29, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
I contacted you via you support@[banned mixer], nothing again, no answer  whatsoever.

Replied to your email. Sorry for the delay.


Title: ⚠️ Scam Alert ⚠️
Post by: MixTum.io on September 08, 2020, 08:05:40 PM
We are glad that more and more of you are choosing our service, but with popularity comes increased attention from scammers.

Today we want to warn you about two more scam clones: mixtumcfwzgwbf5q (dot) onion and mixtumm4rtq2kfqe (dot) onion. The first fake was linked at thehiddenwiki.com, the second — at bitcoinmixer.reviews.

Both look like perfect mirrors of mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion, which is our true onion address. They even have the correct link to our clearnet website and correct contact information. However, if you initiate mixing on one of these, you will be given an input address that belongs to the scammers, and we will never receive your coins. You will be given a normal-looking Letter of Guarantee, except it won't pass verification, because the BTC address in it has been replaced.

These clones are likely operated by the same people, and so far we know about two of them, but there may be more. If you happen to run into any other sites like these, please let us and others know about them.

What you can do to protect yourself:
  • Bookmark the only real address of MixTum on Tor: mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion.
  • Double-check the address you are using from reliable sources (https://[banned mixer] and https://[banned mixer]/mix-coins.php).
  • Always verify the Letter of Guarantee you receive after filling the mixing form.
  • ...and just remain watchful in general.

Thanks for staying with us.



Here are all the places we know so far that link to these scams:

https://darkweb.link/ — lists the FAKE hidden service mixtumcfwzgwbf5q (dot) onion;
https://thehiddenwiki.com/how-to-use-bitcoin-anonymously/ — lists the FAKE hidden service mixtumcfwzgwbf5q (dot) onion;
https://bitcoinmixer.reviews/ — lists the FAKE hidden service mixtumm4rtq2kfqe (dot) onion;
https://darkwebmarket.net/ — lists the FAKE hidden service mixtumm4rtq2kfqe (dot) onion;



UPD. 10/2020: Two more scam addresses, this time on clearnet: mixum(dot)io and mixtum5lbuslyow2(dot)online. Both are likely controlled by the same scammer.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️🔐
Post by: TalkStar on October 27, 2020, 06:18:54 PM
Phishing Alert:

There is a phishing website named "mixum.io" and they are LIVE. "Coupable" have already posted a thread on help & brginner section.

Here is the topic; Be aware : Mixum [fake copy of Mixtum mixer] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284835.0)



Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on October 29, 2020, 05:32:29 PM
There is a phishing website named "mixum.io" and they are LIVE.

Thanks! Added to the list above.

Folks, let me use this opportunity to remind you that only your own caution, thoroughness and education can reliably protect you from being scammed. Sadly, there is no foolproof solution we could implement on our side to stop this.


Title: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: MixTum.io on November 27, 2020, 11:58:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fvIA8Ln.png

Greetings, everyone!

This was supposed to be published quite a bit earlier and become our second anniversary announcement, but 2020 is not known for caring about your plans, so we have only got around to it now.

Nevertheless, we still think it will be useful for us to release a general update on how things are going overall and what has been happening.

In the first year, the service saw a lot of innovation. In comparison, during the second year things have stabilized, and the focus has been more on polishing the existing functionality, squashing bugs on the website and perfecting our practices for processing incoming orders, support requests and other inquiries.

Still, there have been a few notable changes that are worth summarizing:

  • We have released a small set of /?videos]educational videos (https://[banned mixer), one explaining the general idea of mixing and its usefulness, and the other with step-by-step directions on how to use our services in particular.
  • After the Bitcoin halving in spring, our mixing terms (the commission and the minimum amount) were updated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg54504781#msg54504781).
  • We have switched away from Protonmail and set up a support mailbox on our own domain, for the sake of greater control. Support(at)[banned mixer] is always ready to assist you!

The service has continued to gain recognition, and the volume of coins being processed has grown significantly. At the same time, you may have noticed that several quite active scam clones of our website have surfaced. Scammers are in general rather active in cryptocurrencies, since many people still perceive them as some kind of "free money" generation system, and naturally, as we gained popularity, they turned their attention to us. We even have been contacted by a few people they managed to fool. We keep track of known scams in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg55158483#msg55158483). Please follow the safety recommendations from there and remember that one should always be cautious when dealing with money online.

Overall, we are pleased with how this year has been for [banned mixer], despite the pandemic, which of course slowed things down a bit, but wasn't a major factor for us. Like before, we are open to all your suggestions and feedback, so if you have something to share, you are always welcome.

Thank you for using our services. Oh, and by the way: Your Privacy Matters!



Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: Cyprus-Paradise on February 09, 2021, 10:47:47 AM
hello everyone
dunno how to get support, probably offline
emai not answering

POTENTIAL SCAM
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Mixtum RU cгeнepиpoвaл aдpec: 3QZJqPDLBtuAFjzBnSVaXeDYaga2JBZ2sQ
Peжим oчиcтки: Пoлнaя aнoнимнocть.
Oчищeнныe мoнeты бyдyт oтпpaвлeны нa cлeдyющий aдpec/a:
1KYzXva1Axgz2ri8UZDzV5LixVvVrVco21

Maкcимaльнoe вpeмя cмeшивaния cocтaвляeт 6 чacoв.
Этo пpeдлoжeниe дeйcтвитeльнo 168 чacoв oт 2021-02-03 23:02:02 GMT
Maкcимaльнaя кoмиccия зa oбcлyживaниe: 5% +0.0007 BTC.
Haш oтпeчaтoк PGP: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgGx1aAAoJENOygJVvDnyvntQH/A29cM21xA9ANgwofZCbP5Oj
99wLeEmTFEI7SXyX+nMm1mvUBSy4MYJ+0NxA8+O54iKAokWerjP+TBr/h641wFE0
aFFKJyfXx+VHhfp6zmDhiHpYd6CD+Hza27k9PwiKJ4FbIOX2e5qJUhHc0M+4HHY/
HtSi76w9QbirElhROeV9dswnWmJgIaQTZbVgPocRG6X6On3fatZlrnxn2xfpISsd
j3OLnFRBtjVgFlv4B8mX1zdF6PoKYLtJU+3NTpgkcuZq5TU0OSFvZMvgAlilKgp6
y83r67x9IxxFK0DPUrO375TpUw2wfnm1WezZdeqY9PDatjMTeS9l3TBI11+pl24=
=zdYc
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


its in russian language


still havent receive money


Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: Cyprus-Paradise on February 12, 2021, 03:35:25 PM
hello everyone
dunno how to get support, probably offline
emai not answering

POTENTIAL SCAM
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Mixtum RU cгeнepиpoвaл aдpec: 3QZJqPDLBtuAFjzBnSVaXeDYaga2JBZ2sQ
Peжим oчиcтки: Пoлнaя aнoнимнocть.
Oчищeнныe мoнeты бyдyт oтпpaвлeны нa cлeдyющий aдpeca:
1KYzXva1Axgz2ri8UZDzV5LixVvVrVco21

Maкcимaльнoe вpeмя cмeшивaния cocтaвляeт 6 чacoв.
Этo пpeдлoжeниe дeйcтвитeльнo 168 чacoв oт 2021-02-03 23:02:02 GMT
Maкcимaльнaя кoмиccия зa oбcлyживaниe: 5% +0.0007 BTC.
Haш oтпeчaтoк PGP: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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its in russian language


still havent receive money


SCAM SCAM DO not send coins to this service

i ve lost 0.1261 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3QZJqPDLBtuAFjzBnSVaXeDYaga2JBZ2sQ

9 days have been passed

mixed coins had to be transferred to 1KYzXva1Axgz2ri8UZDzV5LixVvVrVco21

BE CAREFUL guys








Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: LoyceV on February 12, 2021, 07:44:37 PM
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Hash: SHA1

Mixtum RU cгeнepиpoвaл aдpec: 3QZJqPDLBtuAFjzBnSVaXeDYaga2JBZ2sQ
Peжим oчиcтки: Пoлнaя aнoнимнocть.
Oчищeнныe мoнeты бyдyт oтпpaвлeны нa cлeдyющий aдpec/a:
1KYzXva1Axgz2ri8UZDzV5LixVvVrVco21

Maкcимaльнoe вpeмя cмeшивaния cocтaвляeт 6 чacoв.
Этo пpeдлoжeниe дeйcтвитeльнo 168 чacoв oт 2021-02-03 23:02:02 GMT
Maкcимaльнaя кoмиccия зa oбcлyживaниe: 5% +0.0007 BTC.
Haш oтпeчaтoк PGP: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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Have you verified this signature? Unfortunately, it can't be verified.
I used this public key (http://mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion/pgp-key.txt):
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Comment: User-ID: [banned mixer] <support@[banned mixer]>
Comment: Type: 2048-bit RSA (secret key available)
Comment: Usage: Signing, Encryption, Certifying User-IDs
Comment: Fingerprint: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF


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=ZA0L
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

To ensure my verification is correct, I created a new transaction:
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Mixtum TOR has generated the address:  33Zo27vpEzMAr1cLWRFZVJH2Po6GXyU2ux
Mixing mode: Complete anonymity.
Cleansed coins will be sent to the forwarding address:
1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD

Maximum mixing time is 6  hours.
This offer is valid for 168  hours from 2021-02-12 20:31:25  GMT
Maximum service fee is: 5% + 0.0007 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
This signed message checks out.

That means you either used a phishing site, or they gave you an invalid signed message. The former seems most likely.


Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: Cyprus-Paradise on March 02, 2021, 07:54:56 PM
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Hash: SHA1

Mixtum RU cгeнepиpoвaл aдpec: 3QZJqPDLBtuAFjzBnSVaXeDYaga2JBZ2sQ
Peжим oчиcтки: Пoлнaя aнoнимнocть.
Oчищeнныe мoнeты бyдyт oтпpaвлeны нa cлeдyющий aдpec/a:
1KYzXva1Axgz2ri8UZDzV5LixVvVrVco21

Maкcимaльнoe вpeмя cмeшивaния cocтaвляeт 6 чacoв.
Этo пpeдлoжeниe дeйcтвитeльнo 168 чacoв oт 2021-02-03 23:02:02 GMT
Maкcимaльнaя кoмиccия зa oбcлyживaниe: 5% +0.0007 BTC.
Haш oтпeчaтoк PGP: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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Have you verified this signature? Unfortunately, it can't be verified.
I used this public key (http://mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion/pgp-key.txt):
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Comment: User-ID: [banned mixer] <support@[banned mixer]>
Comment: Type: 2048-bit RSA (secret key available)
Comment: Usage: Signing, Encryption, Certifying User-IDs
Comment: Fingerprint: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF


mQENBFtpbgYBCADJXNcLWrwxk4gRl9/DHeMpPVRqkALs10lM8YTxgpdGIYJHeDIs
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=ZA0L
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

To ensure my verification is correct, I created a new transaction:
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Mixtum TOR has generated the address:  33Zo27vpEzMAr1cLWRFZVJH2Po6GXyU2ux
Mixing mode: Complete anonymity.
Cleansed coins will be sent to the forwarding address:
1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD

Maximum mixing time is 6  hours.
This offer is valid for 168  hours from 2021-02-12 20:31:25  GMT
Maximum service fee is: 5% + 0.0007 BTC.
PGP fingerprint: B8A5CFCAF63FF2D8384A6B12D3B280956F0E7CAF.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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=gzZs
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
This signed message checks out.

That means you either used a phishing site, or they gave you an invalid signed message. The former seems most likely.


definitely its not fishing...!

F//..NG SCAMMERS.


Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: JeromeTash on March 07, 2021, 07:30:12 AM
definitely its not fishing...!

F//..NG SCAMMERS.
They seem to be very inactive here lately. Have you tried reaching out to them through their support (support@[banned mixer])?
If yes, what was their response to your complaint?


Title: Re: 📰 The Second Year of [banned mixer] — General Update 📰
Post by: brodevs on November 14, 2021, 02:59:15 PM
The topic has been inactive for a long time, also I am concerned that they did not respond to the last review from Cyprus-Paradise. Has anyone used the service in recent months, does it work?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: BBaa on January 14, 2022, 02:21:22 AM
Is this service still active? I just tried it only the partial transaction was transferred. A few hundred usd is missing. The email address on their website keeps bouncing back. Also they dont allow PMs on this site


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceV on January 14, 2022, 09:52:16 AM
Is this service still active?
They were last online on Bitcointalk a year ago, and haven't even updated their old onion domain name.

Quote
I just tried it only the partial transaction was transferred. A few hundred usd is missing.
Do you have (and did you verify) the Letter of Guarantee? If so, if you can share it (note that Bitcointalk PMs are not private! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2485318.msg25458974#msg25458974)), I'd like to verify it. You can create either a Scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) or a Trust Flag as a warning.
It looks like they became inactive but kept their servers running.

Quote
The email address on their website keeps bouncing back.
I've sent them an email to test, and can confirm it bounces:
Code:
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: icopress on February 02, 2022, 07:56:57 PM
Code:
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
Did you use protonmail?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: LoyceV on February 02, 2022, 08:47:27 PM
Did you use protonmail?
Yes.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: icopress on February 02, 2022, 09:07:05 PM
Yes.
It looks like the problem is on their end as I see the same notification when I use gmail.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: hairypoints on April 01, 2022, 06:28:31 AM
Is there a update on mixtum?


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: Jay Johanson on April 16, 2022, 08:15:55 PM
Is this service still active? I just tried it only the partial transaction was transferred. A few hundred usd is missing. The email address on their website keeps bouncing back. Also they dont allow PMs on this site
Hello. We can help you understand the situation. You can send a letter of guarantee in personal messages.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: 23www on December 02, 2022, 03:08:04 PM
I sent it yesterday, but today the money did not come.
There is a guarantee letter.
[banned mixer] - Scammers!


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: Poker Player on March 29, 2023, 04:47:39 PM
I suppose that now that the signature campaign has been launched on the forum this thread should be revitalized in some way, especially considering what is said in the OP:

Embedded scoring algorithm verifies invested money  and  allows only clean BTC enter the system. Thus, we achieve two main security goals:
1)   end users never get their own coins back
2)   no coins from dubious sources penetrate into the system

In theory, this should avoid money laundering accusations, such as those charged against Chip Mixer.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: icopress on March 29, 2023, 06:39:46 PM
The thread will be active soon.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: MixTum.io on April 03, 2023, 07:19:14 AM
The main thread has been updated! Feel free to test our service!  :)

How does your free trial mixing work?

You can initiate trial mixing via the respective button on the main page, or follow /?mix=free]this link (https://[banned mixer). The commission for cleansing will not be charged, but you must send us exactly 0.001 BTC. You cannot select a percentage breakdown as this is decided by the algorithm for optimal performance and anonymity.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: karmamiu on April 03, 2023, 10:24:18 AM
I've never been active the year 2018 and I've seen complaints at that time. Now that they're back I'm gonna wait and see what new offers/features they can give. As of now I'll just have to wait and see, coz for sure this will be active again.

Del


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 03, 2023, 11:42:11 AM
I've never been active the year 2018 and I've seen complaints at that time. [...]
What kind of nonsense? You were not active in 2018 and saw complaints?

Please formulate your thoughts more clearly.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: LeGaulois on April 03, 2023, 01:38:41 PM


True. Even reading twice I don't get what the user wants to mean.
I have also no idea about the complaints he's talking about. There is litterally none.

Beside https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828187.0
Which isn't a complaint if you check twice.

Method used by scammers on Bitcointalk:
- A person creates a topic about a mixer
- Waits a few days/weeks/ months
- Comes back to edit the post to include either a phishing link, or a blog full of phishing links

I reported each of them long ago but I didn't see this one


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: karmamiu on April 04, 2023, 02:22:33 AM
I've never been active the year 2018 and I've seen complaints at that time. [...]
What kind of nonsense? You were not active in 2018 and saw complaints?

Please formulate your thoughts more clearly.
Sorry, what I meant on that is complaints about mixers not this one. At that time I saw many complaints about mixers because there are so many mixers popping out of nowhere, and those times I was also busy doing something outside the forum but still related to crypto and casino that's also what I meant of not being active at that time. I apologize that it makes you misunderstood due to my post being short. To be honest it was a long post but the continuation wasn't posted due to not having stable access of internet coz I was travelling yesterday. I was also using yandex browser on my mobile phone and sometimes it will suddenly refresh without you knowing. I didn't even noticed that my post was cut short.


Edit: to avoid any further arguments I will delete the post I did yesterday. It's also true that there have been many complaints from mixers way back on social media platforms which I usually ignore some notifications. I know it is irrelevant and not believable and I also apologize if I had offended anyone here.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: darkangel11 on April 04, 2023, 11:05:50 AM
Sorry, what I meant on that is complaints about mixers not this one. At that time I saw many complaints about mixers because there are so many mixers popping out of nowhere, and those times I was also busy doing something outside the forum but still related to crypto and casino that's also what I meant of not being active at that time. I apologize that it makes you misunderstood due to my post being short. To be honest it was a long post but the continuation wasn't posted due to not having stable access of internet coz I was travelling yesterday. I was also using yandex browser on my mobile phone and sometimes it will suddenly refresh without you knowing. I didn't even noticed that my post was cut short.

So you weren't active in 2018, but you saw "many mixers popping up out of nowhere" at that time? What does that have to do with anything?
If you saw complaints about some other mixers in 2018 it's completely irrelevant.
Nobody cares what you were busy doing and why you weren't active 4 years ago. This is not a campaign recruitment thread.

It would help if you read your message once again before posting. Slow down, try to make sure the message can only be read and understood the way you want it to be and that it's on-topic.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 05, 2023, 01:14:43 AM
The main thread has been updated! Feel free to test our service!  :)

How does your free trial mixing work?

You can initiate trial mixing via the respective button on the main page, or follow /?mix=free]this link (https://[banned mixer). The commission for cleansing will not be charged, but you must send us exactly 0.001 BTC. You cannot select a percentage breakdown as this is decided by the algorithm for optimal performance and anonymity.

What happens if I sent a small or higher than 0.001?, is I get charge?.

I got a problem when trying to send with PRECISE PAYMENT MODE methods. An error I got is a value must be 0 on the payment amount box, So what should i write there?,

And, I got undefined also when trying the default mixer. Or maybe it's an error on my side or my local internet connection, I will try it again if I have time tonight.

So far, the website is look simple and easy used.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 06, 2023, 05:58:47 PM
What happens if I sent a small or higher than 0.001?, is I get charge?.
If you send exactly 0.001 btc you will have a successful free mixing.

Keep in mind that the minimum amount of mixing is 0.005 BTC so if you send 0.0012 or 0.0045 or 0.0009 all these amounts will be treated as donations.


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: DiMarxist on April 06, 2023, 10:26:18 PM
I sent it yesterday, but today the money did not come.
There is a guarantee letter.
[banned mixer] - Scammers!
but by now they have resolved your problem, because the time has been long when make your comment. I believe they are not what you think of them. So calm down next time when trying make some mixing stuff in the mixing companies. They are some factors you to consider when you not getting back you money.
By the way, please I am new to the Cryptocurrencies mixing world. How do mix coin, what are the step to take before start mixing. When I checked some of the mixing companies site, I was asked to deposit with registration, and I was afraid to do that. Because I was thinking that the money would lost since there is no registration process to sign up and sign. Please if anyone here can teach me the steps to use mixer, I will be very grateful.
I need your help


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 07, 2023, 02:08:10 AM
What happens if I sent a small or higher than 0.001?, is I get charge?.
If you send exactly 0.001 btc you will have a successful free mixing.

Keep in mind that the minimum amount of mixing is 0.005 BTC so if you send 0.0012 or 0.0045 or 0.0009 all these amounts will be treated as donations.

when I look at the site, the minimum send must be 0.003, maybe has been reduced from 0.005

I must ignore that minimum 0.003, and send 0.001 to free mixing

https://i.postimg.cc/B681RbRV/test.png

And, I tried and received 0.001 in 1 hour. The mixer is look simple and easy for use so far.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 07, 2023, 10:27:01 AM
when I look at the site, the minimum send must be 0.003, maybe has been reduced from 0.005

I must ignore that minimum 0.003, and send 0.001 to free mixing

https://i.postimg.cc/B681RbRV/test.png

And, I tried and received 0.001 in 1 hour. The mixer is look simple and easy for use so far.

Perhaps the minimum has been reduced. I'll try to find out what I can! I'm glad you got to test the Mixer.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: RickDeckard on April 07, 2023, 02:02:37 PM
when I look at the site, the minimum send must be 0.003, maybe has been reduced from 0.005

I must ignore that minimum 0.003, and send 0.001 to free mixing

https://i.postimg.cc/B681RbRV/test.png

And, I tried and received 0.001 in 1 hour. The mixer is look simple and easy for use so far.

Perhaps the minimum has been reduced. I'll try to find out what I can! I'm glad you got to test the Mixer.
This is weird. I've just accessed the link posted in the OP[1] and I keep seeing the "0,001 BTC" for commission-free cleansing sign:
https://i.vgy.me/yNDFkN.png

What I think it happened, and by looking at your screenshot, is that you didn't used the address provided by MixTum[1] to make a free mixing and went ahead directly to their "standard" service which is where they claim they accept a minimum of 0.003 BTC to initiate a mixing process...

[1]/?mix=free]https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free (https://[banned mixer)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 07, 2023, 09:16:41 PM
What I think it happened, and by looking at your screenshot, is that you didn't used the address provided by MixTum[1] to make a free mixing and went ahead directly to their "standard" service which is where they claim they accept a minimum of 0.003 BTC to initiate a mixing process...

[1]/?mix=free]https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free (https://[banned mixer)

Yes, I used the address provided by MixTum (free mixing), and that minimum of 0.003 BTC will appear on 2nd step.

https://i.postimg.cc/SNpWzzgr/2nd.png


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 07, 2023, 09:19:03 PM
Yes, I used the address provided by MixTum (free mixing), and that minimum of 0.003 BTC will appear on 2nd step.
I'll try to check this tomorrow.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on April 10, 2023, 11:48:04 AM
Hi guys,

who can help me?
I already sent BTC (more than the min of 0.003 BTC) to the given wallet.
This is now some days ago, I also know that the address is only for seven days active.
Till now I didn't receive anything on the destination wallet, I also already wrote some mail to the support but sadly without reaction.

Who can proof the if the service is working or how can I get in touch with the guys?
If its scam so just let me know.

Cheers
 


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 10, 2023, 01:07:26 PM
Hi guys,

who can help me?
I already sent BTC (more than the min of 0.003 BTC) to the given wallet.
This is now some days ago, I also know that the address is only for seven days active.
Till now I didn't receive anything on the destination wallet, I also already wrote some mail to the support but sadly without reaction.

Who can proof the if the service is working or how can I get in touch with the guys?
If its scam so just let me know.

Cheers
 
The service is operating normally. However, I will try to find out what I can.  ;)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 10, 2023, 01:55:26 PM
I contacted MixTum and was informed that you have topped up the indicated Bitcoin address using two transactions (in total more than the minimum amount). Please pay attention Quote this implies that the minimum amount must be within one transaction. Nevertheless, you have been answered by mail, and your case should be resolved as soon as possible.

Quote
Smaller transactions will be regarded as a donation since it makes no business sense to conduct them


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 11, 2023, 01:13:21 AM
Who can proof the if the service is working or how can I get in touch with the guys?
If its scam so just let me know.
It's not a scam, I proved it (0.001) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62048487#msg62048487) I got my mixed bitcoin about 1-2 hours after sent it.

I already sent BTC (more than the min of 0.003 BTC) to the given wallet.
If you sent more than 0.001 you will get charged a fee, maybe you will receive 0.0028.. (low or more), And, now (after 24 hours), I am really sure you have received that mixed.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on April 12, 2023, 11:00:52 AM
Hey all! We have great news as the admin has successfully processed our username change request.

Was: MixTum_Bitcoin_Mixer
It became: [banned mixer]


We wanted users to clearly know our name and our domain, so for us the day started off with some very good news!

Quote


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 13, 2023, 09:20:22 AM
Hey all! We have great news as the admin has successfully processed our username change request.
I am glad to hear that. Name or username is a basic thing for marketing, if you have a good name and the same as your product, that possibly brings trust for all your service.

And, I just have a question about free mixing, if (for example) I have 0.003 btc and just want use your free mixing service, Is still free if I used it multiple time mix? For example, I mix 0.001 a minute ago, then after a minute, I sent again 0.001 btc, so on after 0.003 spent.

if it can be used like that, most likely people can use it to abuse your 5% commission.

CMIIW.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: LoyceV on April 13, 2023, 09:47:24 AM
No Cloudflare
So, what happened to this? I can't even load your clearnet website in Tor browser, because of "Performance & security by Cloudflare"... I've been looking at various rotating circles for about 10 minutes now. Once in a while Cloudflare shows it's (tracking) captcha, but it never completes.
You can't provide privacy while using Cloudflare.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on April 13, 2023, 11:45:04 AM
Thanks for your effort!

I also recieved an email with the same information (2 transaction and the system cant handle that).
It was told that it will be refunded. I am now waiting till I receive the coins to start ONE new order with at least 0.003, but it seems if the min is raised to 0.005 BTC.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on April 15, 2023, 09:33:33 AM
does anybody has more information about the status?
Since few days no reaction.
I awaiting to start a new order ...


Title: Re: 📣 [ANN] [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer. Because Your Privacy Matters❗🛡️��
Post by: Poker Player on April 16, 2023, 09:44:45 AM
I suppose that now that the signature campaign has been launched on the forum this thread should be revitalized in some way, especially considering what is said in the OP:

Embedded scoring algorithm verifies invested money  and  allows only clean BTC enter the system. Thus, we achieve two main security goals:
1)   end users never get their own coins back
2)   no coins from dubious sources penetrate into the system

In theory, this should avoid money laundering accusations, such as those charged against Chip Mixer.

As far as I can see, since I wrote this post the OP has been edited and I see no explicit reference to "clean" coins or avoiding "coins from dubious sources".

Has the policy on this changed?

I just watched the video on the [banned mixer] website and these references are still made.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: JeromeTash on April 16, 2023, 09:51:44 PM
does anybody has more information about the status?
Since few days no reaction.
I awaiting to start a new order ...
Your issue is not quite clear, that is why you are being ignored here.

What exactly happened? Did you contact their support? You might as well send a PM to [banned mixer] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2365246) for a quicker response.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on April 18, 2023, 07:53:33 AM
Your issue is not quite clear, that is why you are being ignored here.

What exactly happened? Did you contact their support? You might as well send a PM to [banned mixer] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2365246) for a quicker response.

he received a response after the reaction of icopress, the funds will be refunded because the service could not handle two transactions (whatever that means).
8 days have passed since the first time gtibe complained about the problem, I must say that it is already a long period to resolve. Also, if the system cannot handle some kind of transaction, such a thing would have to be disabled when creating the request.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on April 19, 2023, 09:30:57 AM
Hi Guys sorry for the delay,
short background info; I transferred the first amount of BTC (less than 0.003). After i realized that there is a minimum amount I transferred a secound amount to be over minimal amount.
This is the reason why the system cant handle the order.
I also wrote to the support the first few days they responded to my mails.
But since 4 or 5 days they didn't response.
Anyhow; the Support told me that i get a refund, but till today I didn't receive anything.
I only want to know how long it will take.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: JeromeTash on April 20, 2023, 09:59:19 PM
Also, if the system cannot handle some kind of transaction, such a thing would have to be disabled when creating the request.
More like generating a new address whenever an incoming transaction is detected in an old one?

I only want to know how long it will take.
That's a heck of a long time to just resolve such a simple issue. Have you tried to contact their rep profile in this forum like I suggested in the reply earlier on?
I see they were active on 17th April.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 23, 2023, 08:40:37 AM
OP, the first post tells in at least 2 places (plus a third in the sig campaign) that the Tor mirror is https://... but it's not working with https, it works, like all Tor addresses I know, on http.
You may want to fix. This one does open with my Tor browser: http://[banned mixer]


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 πŸ›‘οΈ
Post by: JeromeTash on April 23, 2023, 06:24:59 PM
Another observation.

I don't know if I saw this right but, the minimum bitcoins to be mixed is different in the FAQs (0.005 BTC) as compared to the mixing page (0.003 BTC)
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blob1a8507a5360ec5a9.png

Some correction is required either in the FAQs section mixing page.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on April 24, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
Hi Guys sorry for the delay,
short background info; I transferred the first amount of BTC (less than 0.003). After i realized that there is a minimum amount I transferred a secound amount to be over minimal amount.
This is the reason why the system cant handle the order.
I also wrote to the support the first few days they responded to my mails.
But since 4 or 5 days they didn't response.
Anyhow; the Support told me that i get a refund, but till today I didn't receive anything.
I only want to know how long it will take.


Any update about this? Now is a minimum of two weeks since this was first reported, and we have no update from either side.
Everyone's reputation is very important on the Bitcointalk forum, that's why I'm a little surprised that things like this are easily ignored by the service owner.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on April 24, 2023, 06:22:06 PM
OP, the first post tells in at least 2 places (plus a third in the sig campaign) that the Tor mirror is https://... but it's not working with https, it works, like all Tor addresses I know, on http.
You may want to fix. This one does open with my Tor browser: http://[banned mixer]
So I'm here... trying to find out what's wrong (although I checked the links in bbcode and I see that the mirror address is correct).


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 24, 2023, 07:47:00 PM
OP, the first post tells in at least 2 places (plus a third in the sig campaign) that the Tor mirror is https://... but it's not working with https, it works, like all Tor addresses I know, on http.
You may want to fix. This one does open with my Tor browser: http://[banned mixer]
So I'm here... trying to find out what's wrong (although I checked the links in bbcode and I see that the mirror address is correct).

Did you check the Tor address will Tor browser? Did you copy paste it as https an worked??!
I had to change to http to work.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on April 25, 2023, 04:19:29 AM
Another observation.

I don't know if I saw this right but, the minimum bitcoins to be mixed is different in the FAQs (0.005 BTC) as compared to the mixing page (0.003 BTC)
https://i.imgur.com/VuIrTey.png

Some correction is required either in the FAQs section mixing page.

yes, I said it in my previous post before, maybe they must remove that minimum on faq. Because so far, we can send at least 0.001 BTC which I think we can send also send with 0.002 BTC with a fee.

for example, if we send 0.0012, they must be including the fee because over (free mixing) 0.001.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: JeromeTash on April 26, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
yes, I said it in my previous post before, maybe they must remove that minimum on faq. Because so far, we can send at least 0.001 BTC which I think we can send also send with 0.002 BTC with a fee.

for example, if we send 0.0012, they must be including the fee because over (free mixing) 0.001.

I believe the commission fee mixing is a promotional offer which could end at anytime. The information about it is well documented in the FAQs. The user must send exactly 0.001 BTC if they want trial mixing. Not more than the stated amount.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: macson on May 09, 2023, 02:39:49 PM
hi OP, do you and the team have plans to create an affiliate program? 

i see there are a lot of mixers that do that and it could potentially be of interest....


Title: Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - Because Your Privacy Matters! New Bitcoin Mixer is Launched
Post by: JeromeTash on May 11, 2023, 12:21:29 PM
hi OP, do you and the team have plans to create an affiliate program? 
It was suggested by some member back then in 2018 but they didn't give attention to the suggestion. Perhaps, it's something of less priority to them right now.

Suggestions:
....
- Bonus/referral programs: (don't know if this already set in your marketing strategy) Adding those kind of programs would help the world know about you in short time than expected; The bonus can be set in form of more lower fees for regular users or donators or those mixing big amounts. A referral program would need the implementation of more complicated tools (profiles,logins,IDs...) ;don't know how you can handle with it for now.
....


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: LeGaulois on May 11, 2023, 12:58:42 PM
They can hardly add such option until Jambler do it first.
Even if they add it, the money needs to come from somewhere, so either the mixer agrees to make less profits, or users accept to pay more service fees


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on May 16, 2023, 05:51:49 PM
Hi Guys sorry for the delay,
short background info; I transferred the first amount of BTC (less than 0.003). After i realized that there is a minimum amount I transferred a secound amount to be over minimal amount.
This is the reason why the system cant handle the order.
I also wrote to the support the first few days they responded to my mails.
But since 4 or 5 days they didn't response.
Anyhow; the Support told me that i get a refund, but till today I didn't receive anything.
I only want to know how long it will take.


Any update about this? Now is a minimum of two weeks since this was first reported, and we have no update from either side.
Everyone's reputation is very important on the Bitcointalk forum, that's why I'm a little surprised that things like this are easily ignored by the service owner.

Thanks for the interest and the forum and the community.
I am still waiting for the promised refund which was told me by mail from the mixtum support team on April 10th. Since then no reaction even when I write.
I hopefully still waiting for the refund or any other informations. Maybe somebody from the community can get in touch with the head of Support or somebody who had more information.

Thanks in advance guys.
 


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on May 16, 2023, 06:40:35 PM
[...]
Gtib, your case will be resolved very soon... give me some time to figure it out.

Also, as far as I know, the delay is not related to any payment problem, just some technical difficulties arose that took all the free time from MixTum.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: gtib on May 16, 2023, 07:30:28 PM
Thank you for your effort!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on May 16, 2023, 10:12:28 PM
[...]
Gtib, your case will be resolved very soon... give me some time to figure it out.

Also, as far as I know, the delay is not related to any payment problem, just some technical difficulties arose that took all the free time from MixTum.

A month has already passed, which can be considered quite a long period to solve this kind of problem. Is this an isolated case or is the complete service having technical difficulties in its work?
How safe is it to use a Mixtum mixer at the moment? I believe that there are users who do not have the luxury of waiting a month for their money.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on May 22, 2023, 02:10:26 PM
I do not know if MixTum is in a difficult or good situation right now, but I know one thing -- that if icopress said he is doing all he can to solve the situation, he certainly does it. Indeed, the situation is not a pleasant one, yet patience is all it can be done here. I am sure that the situation will be solved soon.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on June 08, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
I do not know if MixTum is in a difficult or good situation right now, but I know one thing -- that if icopress said he is doing all he can to solve the situation, he certainly does it. Indeed, the situation is not a pleasant one, yet patience is all it can be done here. I am sure that the situation will be solved soon.
Thank you for your concern and encouragement. I think that everyone perfectly understands that we are really talking about a ridiculous amount (and that we ourselves have expressed a desire to make a return). It's just that sometimes there really are such periods of time when there is not enough time for answers here.

So, what happened to this? I can't even load your clearnet website in Tor browser, because of "Performance & security by Cloudflare"... I've been looking at various rotating circles for about 10 minutes now. Once in a while Cloudflare shows it's (tracking) captcha, but it never completes.
You can't provide privacy while using Cloudflare.
Cloudflare, we use dns server and DDoS protection. Certificates, as you can easily see, have nothing to do with them. There are a few more things that I would like to tell you, but unfortunately I can only do this in personal correspondence and only to you, since it seems to me that you are one of those people that you can rely on.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on June 09, 2023, 07:54:57 AM
Thank you for your concern and encouragement.

Welcome :)

I think that everyone perfectly understands that we are really talking about a ridiculous amount (and that we ourselves have expressed a desire to make a return). It's just that sometimes there really are such periods of time when there is not enough time for answers here.

Indeed, the amount was a small one. And I also understand the problem about lack of time. Probably you're facing a lot of other duties which you have to attend. Anyway, I believe the problem was solved by now? I did not see any other complaint from gtib.

There are a few more things that I would like to tell you, but unfortunately I can only do this in personal correspondence and only to you, since it seems to me that you are one of those people that you can rely on.

From my perspective LV is one of the most reliable users of this forum and he helped a lot the users, the forum as a whole and also various mixers and websites which needed public feedback.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: LoyceV on June 09, 2023, 08:30:33 AM
So, what happened to this? I can't even load your clearnet website in Tor browser, because of "Performance & security by Cloudflare"... I've been looking at various rotating circles for about 10 minutes now. Once in a while Cloudflare shows it's (tracking) captcha, but it never completes.
You can't provide privacy while using Cloudflare.
Cloudflare, we use dns server and DDoS protection. Certificates, as you can easily see, have nothing to do with them. There are a few more things that I would like to tell you, but unfortunately I can only do this in personal correspondence and only to you, since it seems to me that you are one of those people that you can rely on.
Feel free to PM me.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dansus021 on June 12, 2023, 02:00:24 AM
@[banned mixer] Guys I see the Unijoin website has multiple languages is Indonesia translation reserved, if don't can I translate the website  8). Also would be great if you guys have a dark theme since the dark theme is everywhere


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on June 12, 2023, 05:58:48 AM
hi OP, do you and the team have plans to create an affiliate program? 

i see there are a lot of mixers that do that and it could potentially be of interest....
          I have exactly the same suggestion. Today it is incredibly difficult to do without an affiliate program. In most cases, it is she who drives the main traffic. If you ignore such an important point, then this will certainly affect the Internet resource.

          If there is this condition, then I will consider the option of participation.

          For commissions. Are there any plans to reduce them? I think 4-5% is quite a lot. Not everyone can go for it.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on June 18, 2023, 08:09:50 AM
I am reserving Romanian translation for MixTum ANN thread. I will come back to this post once the translation is done.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on June 19, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
Please, anyone who wants to take care of translating our main thread, post the link here so we can add the link to the OP.

best regards


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on June 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM
Please, anyone who wants to take care of translating our main thread, post the link here so we can add the link to the OP.

Hey MixTum, please find here the Romanian translation of your topic: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Lansat ξn 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457192). I am more than happy to see I am the first one which published the translation :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: paid2 on June 24, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
Please, anyone who wants to take care of translating our main thread, post the link here so we can add the link to the OP.

Hi, here is the French translation of the main thread : [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Depuis 2018 🛡️  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457445.msg62455350#msg62455350)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icalical on July 03, 2023, 11:37:29 PM
I didn't find the Indonesian translation of your main thread so I made one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458485

And I just tried your platform, it's easy to use and seamless, nothing is complicated. The fee is indeed a bit pricy, but as you said it's worth it if the person really valued their anonymity and privacy. The website could have small tidying up tho, I mean it's simple no need for sophisticated design, but there are just too many blank spaces.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on July 03, 2023, 11:44:05 PM
I didn't find the Indonesian translation of your main thread so I made one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458485

And I just tried your platform, it's easy to use and seamless, nothing is complicated. The fee is indeed a bit pricy, but as you said it's worth it if the person really valued their anonymity and privacy. The website could have small tidying up tho, I mean it's simple no need for sophisticated design, but there are just too many blank spaces.
Looks like I need to remind MixTum to look into this thread and add the existing translations to the OP.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 04, 2023, 07:35:16 AM
I am also eager for this update as I would like to see my translation listed in OP :)

This is just a thought but maybe, at same time, perhaps MixTum could write a line or two inside each translated topic? I think it would be a good suggestion for them, as users from various local boards could see they are involved also inside their boards.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 11, 2023, 05:35:03 AM
       The amount of commissions in the mixer is a little high (Service fee:random 4% - 5% + 0.0007 BTC). Naturally, the technology requires certain costs, but it's worth it. It will be very nice if it decreases over time. Yes, I understand the moment that the project is quite new, but there is something to work on. Other than that, I have no questions.
      What did you like?
      There are two wallet addresses for forwarding, which guarantees the receipt of funds.
      "Clean" coins are credited. This is quite surprising for me personally.

      Quite a long time for "clearing", but this does not allow "outsiders" to analyze transactions.

What is the conclusion? This mixer deserves attention and I wish him prosperity.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 11, 2023, 06:37:56 AM
The amount of commissions in the mixer is a little high (Service fee:random 4% - 5% + 0.0007 BTC). Naturally, the technology requires certain costs, but it's worth it.

Excepting the fact that technology requires certain costs, I would also add this: anonymity has its price. We live in a world where privacy and anonymity look more and more utopian day by day. Governments' surveillance over citizen reached an unthinkable level, with the help of the technology.

Same technology which was forbidden decades ago for regular citizen (cryptography, access to satellites, accurate geolocation etc.) can be accessed now, after tremendous efforts made by Cypherpunks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255623.0) like Whitfield Diffie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202758.msg53160787#msg53160787), Phil Zimmermann (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226376), John Gilmore (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219463.0) or Julian Assange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228619).

However, even with cryptography free to use by all people, governments fight back using cryptanalysis. Therefore new methods needs to be approached, in order to still have the chance to remain anonymous. Mixers are giving a precious hand of help on this matter. For this reason I am saying that anonymity has its price. Those which want to remain anonymous will pay the price. Those which don't care for their privacy will face the risk of becoming a sitting ducks in front of the government or having their personal information leaked on DarkNet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221497.0). Or become victims of identity thieves (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444158)...


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 11, 2023, 07:31:42 AM
Excepting the fact that technology requires certain costs, I would also add this: anonymity has its price. We live in a world where privacy and anonymity look more and more utopian day by day. Governments' surveillance over citizen reached an unthinkable level, with the help of the technology.

Same technology which was forbidden decades ago for regular citizen (cryptography, access to satellites, accurate geolocation etc.) can be accessed now, after tremendous efforts made by Cypherpunks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255623.0) like Whitfield Diffie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202758.msg53160787#msg53160787), Phil Zimmermann (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226376), John Gilmore (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219463.0) or Julian Assange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228619).

However, even with cryptography free to use by all people, governments fight back using cryptanalysis. Therefore new methods needs to be approached, in order to still have the chance to remain anonymous. Mixers are giving a precious hand of help on this matter. For this reason I am saying that anonymity has its price. Those which want to remain anonymous will pay the price. Those which don't care for their privacy will face the risk of becoming a sitting ducks in front of the government or having their personal information leaked on DarkNet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221497.0). Or become victims of identity thieves (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444158)...
         I fully understand and appreciate this moment. I would prefer to remain as anonymous as possible on the global network and use such methods than to be in the palm of my hand in front of government agencies. This is especially true in my country, where there is a tough dictatorship and at any moment a lot of uncomfortable questions can arise out of the blue for no reason at all.
         In addition, in my state, the attitude towards blockchain technology and its derivatives is not the best. For several years now, battles have been going on in this direction, but so far nothing has been finally decided. I am more likely to assume that the laws on these issues will only become tougher.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: HONDACD125 on July 11, 2023, 09:16:14 AM
RESERVED THIS PLACE FOR URDU LANGUAGE TRANSLATION OF [banned mixer]

UPDATE

Successfully translated Main thread. you can check it in thr below link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg63073725#msg63073725

Special thanks to GazetaBitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285797) for reminding me.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: thepeterson on July 11, 2023, 07:19:29 PM
Working on the Arabic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459457.msg62536331#new


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: ScamViruS on July 11, 2023, 07:23:22 PM
       The amount of commissions in the mixer is a little high (Service fee:random 4% - 5% + 0.0007 BTC). Naturally, the technology requires certain costs, but it's worth it. It will be very nice if it decreases over time. Yes, I understand the moment that the project is quite new, but there is something to work on. Other than that, I have no questions.
Maybe they think about commissions if the volume increases over time. When you expect the highest level of anonymity and they try to give it to you, you have to pay them service charges accordingly. Currently, the government of all countries is taking a strong stand, so no one wants to face irrelevant questions from the government. So any crypto user would want his fund connection to be untraceable. And this is where [banned mixer] is at work, providing the highest level of anonymity to those crypto users' funds. When I get the highest level of service, it shouldn't be difficult to pay such a commission, at least from my perspective.

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WHAT IS HAPPENING
TO THE CLIENT’S MONEY?

First, we put your coins into the pre-mixer where they get mixed with other coins. Then, we send this cryptocurrency to investors’ accounts at stock exchanges where it gets mixed with other traders’ money. Our transfer algorithm selects independent investors and trading platforms, and breaks down your funds in a manner that completely removes a link between input and output transactions.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: paid2 on July 11, 2023, 08:02:25 PM
I agree with Gazeta and ScamVirus.

Privacy has a price, and in this case, I personally don't find the fees very high. Of course, it's cheaper with some other mixers. But at the same time, if you read the reports from blockchain analysis agencies and companies, Mixtum doesn't attract a lot of attention, and that's a great quality, especially when you want your coins not to be flagged. Mixtum's strategy is pretty good in my opinion.

Sinbad, one of the market leaders in the mixer's industry, attracts a lot of attention (that's why I stopped promoting their service), and I personally think that this is not to the users' advantage. Just read the latest Chainanalysis report and see how they are cited as the mixer the most used by North Korea to launder stolen funds for example. If your mixer's name appears in a lot of reports, how can you be 100% confident with the idea of mixing your coins via their service (especially for those selling them to a CEX at the end) ?  From my point of view, I'd be worried about mixing large quantities of coins via a service that gets so much notice and noise. I appreciate that Mixtum works more cleanly, and if the cost of this is a little higher than the price of some of their competitors, I don't mind.

If that's the price of having mixed and clean coins, without attracting too much attention, and in an efficient way, I personally think it's honest. Mixtum's way of working means they're safe for now, despite offering a constant service, and that's a very good sign. The way the coins are acquired and operated is excellent.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Mate2237 on July 11, 2023, 08:10:48 PM
I am also eager for this update as I would like to see my translation listed in OP :)

This is just a thought but maybe, at same time, perhaps MixTum could write a line or two inside each translated topic? I think it would be a good suggestion for them, as users from various local boards could see they are involved also inside their boards.
I appreciate this new development of translating ANN THREAD in the various local boards. This will encourage local board participation in the ANN threads. Many local users want to participate in ANN discussion but they don't have idea to do so many of them are huddle from the ANN threads, but with this I have seen more participation. I love that because this is an another way of growing local boards in the forum.
@GazetaBitcoin thanks for local board development in the forum by asking users to translate your threads too.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: blue Snow on July 12, 2023, 03:08:42 AM
       The amount of commissions in the mixer is a little high (Service fee:random 4% - 5% + 0.0007 BTC). Naturally, the technology requires certain costs, but it's worth it. It will be very nice if it decreases over time. Yes, I understand the moment that the project is quite new, but there is something to work on. Other than that, I have no questions.
Maybe this should be attention.
I've explored a lot of mixers here, the best one is chipmixer which gives us for free to mix our bitcoins. then i tried another mixer like Yomix where it's not free but they give us a chance to edit the fee to be low with the consequence of low privacy. I tried also mixtum and Mixy, good, all going smooth my clean bitcoin received succefully, but like you said we can't costume fee like Yomix, maybe they think it's for the best, but for me it's quite expensive to spend more than 30K satoshi fee  ;D .


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 12, 2023, 05:16:31 AM
I agree with Gazeta and ScamVirus.

Privacy has a price, and in this case, I personally don't find the fees very high. Of course, it's cheaper with some other mixers. But at the same time, if you read the reports from blockchain analysis agencies and companies, Mixtum doesn't attract a lot of attention, and that's a great quality, especially when you want your coins not to be flagged. Mixtum's strategy is pretty good in my opinion.

Sinbad, one of the market leaders in the mixer's industry, attracts a lot of attention (that's why I stopped promoting their service), and I personally think that this is not to the users' advantage. Just read the latest Chainanalysis report and see how they are cited as the mixer the most used by North Korea to launder stolen funds for example. If your mixer's name appears in a lot of reports, how can you be 100% confident with the idea of mixing your coins via their service (especially for those selling them to a CEX at the end) ?  From my point of view, I'd be worried about mixing large quantities of coins via a service that gets so much notice and noise. I appreciate that Mixtum works more cleanly, and if the cost of this is a little higher than the price of some of their competitors, I don't mind.

If that's the price of having mixed and clean coins, without attracting too much attention, and in an efficient way, I personally think it's honest. Mixtum's way of working means they're safe for now, despite offering a constant service, and that's a very good sign. The way the coins are acquired and operated is excellent.
          Yes, I do not argue with the fact that excessive mention of such mixers will not lead to anything good. The less you know the better you sleep. Didn't know about the fact that North Korea is doing this kind of money laundering thing. If the money is stolen, then naturally you need to use the crypt for them and mix it. Maybe we can tell the Koreans which service to use? ;D
          In the end, I still decide for myself that such a commission is quite acceptable for me at the moment, if I am provided with a high level of anonymity and security.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 12, 2023, 07:07:07 AM
I fully understand and appreciate this moment.

Thank you.

I would prefer to remain as anonymous as possible on the global network and use such methods than to be in the palm of my hand in front of government agencies. This is especially true in my country, where there is a tough dictatorship and at any moment a lot of uncomfortable questions can arise out of the blue for no reason at all.

I am sorry to hear that about you and, fruktik. I, for one, lived only a few years in dictatorship, while I was very small. Being a Romanian child back then, I lived only a few years while Ceausescu was ruling the country. However, the dictatorship ended in December 1989. But I understand your situation, as I still have memories from my childhood. I can only hope that, at some moment, the regime from your country will be abolished and replaced with a democratic one...

At same time, even if this will ever happen, it won't change much regarding governments' surveillance. Big brother spies on its citizen in democratic countries, in monarchies and in dictatorships as well. So nothing will change here but, at least you will have a bit more freedom than now...

In addition, in my state, the attitude towards blockchain technology and its derivatives is not the best. For several years now, battles have been going on in this direction, but so far nothing has been finally decided. I am more likely to assume that the laws on these issues will only become tougher.

The laws get tougher for bitcoiners in the entire world, not only in your country. Elites want to centralize something which was born to be decentralized, which is an abomination. They will never be able to shut down Bitcoin so, instead, they are trying to exert more and more oppression on bitcoiners. However, as I anticipated a while ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435886), in time, this will only convince more and more people to use Bitcoin as Satoshi meant: peer-to-peer and anonymous!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Lucius on July 13, 2023, 09:14:05 AM
I recently joined this campaign and it was logical to test how their service works. I have to admit that the mixing method that this mixer provides is really unique because the coins we get after mixing are not part of those coins that users send to the mixer, but they should be coins that come from other sources (exchanges). Therefore, such coins should not be marked as tainted when we use them in further transactions.

As for the mixing process itself, I tried the free mixing of 0.001 BTC and the process is quite simple as with most mixers. After a while I received an identical amount in my wallet and I have no objection to that.

What I noticed is that there is no special page for free mix, and this may confuse some users since the final page contains the following warning "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.003, max 50 BTC) to the address".

In addition, this warning does not look correct if we take into account what the FAQ says regarding the minimum amount, and there it says "Q - What is the minimum amount of funds for cleansing? A - 0.005 BTC".

Another thing I noticed is that there is no change on the mix link when the transaction is confirmed and sent, but it still reads the message "A transaction is detected, the sum is 0.001 BTC, awaiting confirmation".



Of course, all these are things that do not affect the process that happens in the background and that do not affect the end result. I hope that [banned mixer] will continue to develop its unique mixing methods and provide all clients with the best premium experience.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: JeromeTash on July 16, 2023, 03:42:13 PM
What I noticed is that there is no special page for free mix, and this may confuse some users since the final page contains the following warning "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.003, max 50 BTC) to the address".
If you visit the home page (https://[banned mixer]/), you will see it. I think the reason you don't see it is that the forum signature links for some profiles show use this (https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/16/Z4RHd.png

In addition, this warning does not look correct if we take into account what the FAQ says regarding the minimum amount, and there it says "Q - What is the minimum amount of funds for cleansing? A - 0.005 BTC".
I suggested this here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62137829#msg62137829) but looks like nothing has been done so far


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: erep on July 16, 2023, 10:47:54 PM
In addition, this warning does not look correct if we take into account what the FAQ says regarding the minimum amount, and there it says "Q - What is the minimum amount of funds for cleansing? A - 0.005 BTC".
I suggested this here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62137829#msg62137829) but looks like nothing has been done so far
I have noticed the "Mix My Coins" page and the page for free service testing, all mixer services work fast and maybe the team responds to your statement immediately to change the FAQ according to the minimum amount to deposit to the mixer address.

I agree with @licius statement, that the mixer process runs properly without any effect, but it is recommended that users pay attention to the minimum and maximum numbers on the main page when doing the mixer process.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 17, 2023, 05:38:30 AM
What I noticed is that there is no special page for free mix, and this may confuse some users since the final page contains the following warning "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.003, max 50 BTC) to the address".
If you visit the home page (https://[banned mixer]/), you will see it. I think the reason you don't see it is that the forum signature links for some profiles show use this (https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/16/Z4RHd.png

In addition, this warning does not look correct if we take into account what the FAQ says regarding the minimum amount, and there it says "Q - What is the minimum amount of funds for cleansing? A - 0.005 BTC".
I suggested this here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62137829#msg62137829) but looks like nothing has been done so far
        Yes, I noticed this moment, but I assumed that it should be so. I hope that the project team will quickly fix this.
        
         Naturally, nothing is perfect in this world. What is made by man almost always has flaws. This is part of the development of civilization and is the norm, that is associated attribute.
         Therefore, we turn on the mixer to the fullest, enjoy the process and life.
https://i.ibb.co/grZ5TdJ/Mix-Tum-io-Bitcoin-Mixer-Bitcoin-Tumbler-Mix-Your-Coins-Now-Google-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/2F3DtSd)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Lucius on July 17, 2023, 09:40:46 AM
What I noticed is that there is no special page for free mix, and this may confuse some users since the final page contains the following warning "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.003, max 50 BTC) to the address".
If you visit the home page (https://[banned mixer]/), you will see it. I think the reason you don't see it is that the forum signature links for some profiles show use this (https://[banned mixer]/?mix=free)

I think you misunderstood me, because obviously you haven't tried the free mix option, because when you get the BTC address for the deposit you get the following warning :

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/17/Z7c8T.png

If the only correct amount for a free mix is exactly 0.001 BTC, then this warning can only confuse those people who do not pay attention to the details. Obviously, the amount of 0.003 BTC is completely wrong whether it is free or minimum amount for the mix.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: BenCodie on July 17, 2023, 12:14:41 PM
Review of MixTum



First look.

https://i.postimg.cc/mD1pz3k7/home.png

Sleek and informative approach to the main page. Information about why mixers are important, is good information to start with. The ability to try the service is also a big plus, allowing people to test both legitimacy and method without having to risk a large sum to do so.

https://i.postimg.cc/13nn8Pqn/info-1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/kXhRMDBP/info-2.png

The mixing method

This is the most important part outside of looks and functionality. Is the service actually good? In this case, it depends on your point of view. Sometimes, it's not just about whether privacy can be achieved, but how it is achieved. Some methods do not involve others, using purely technology and in best case scenarios, have no/minimal point(s) of failure.

https://i.postimg.cc/x1wkH7vs/how-it-works.png

Some (like MixTum) have an effective method, though by means that are not entirely reliant on technology, rather involving those who are providing liquidty via their exchange accounts. In my opinion, this presents a wide number of long-term variables for the business and its users, though there is no doubt that a level of privacy from cluster/volume analysis is achieved while things are running smoothly.

Functionality

After reading through the info, I tried the traditional mixing method using the free trial. Due to the reduction of flexibility, it really is as simple as 1 2 3. Firstly, inputting the address:

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh2dzYr1/step-1.png

Then, sending the coins.

https://i.postimg.cc/P5KRBr0v/step-2.png

I sent 0.001 BTC.

https://i.postimg.cc/VN6V1PcG/step-3.png

I received 0.001 BTC after roughly 6 hours of sending, no issues and no hidden fees.

The service functions, informs and works well. The UI is also very easy to use. Good job team!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: UchihaSarada on July 20, 2023, 10:56:09 AM
I think you misunderstood me, because obviously you haven't tried the free mix option, because when you get the BTC address for the deposit you get the following warning :

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/17/Z7c8T.png
The letter of guarantee is a good feature from Mix Tum to their customers. It is missing from new mixers which don't know about it or don't want to do it and skip the letter because they plan to scam their users.

The letter of guarantee is one of many bricks to build up a good mixer.

The Power of Letter of Guarantee in Crypto Mixing (https://medium.com/@anonymousmixers/the-power-of-letter-of-guarantee-in-crypto-mixing-5e5092af1739)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on July 20, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
Hi all. We need your objective assessment!

We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.

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Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 20, 2023, 02:27:33 PM
If I may share my opinion, I would rather suggest you to try something more related to the service activity -- which is BTC mixing. Maybe create some avatars with small guys with anonymous faces (maybe having faces similar to this one (https://i.ibb.co/h24DCW6/haking-is-the-new-espionage-410x222.jpg) or faces wearing Guy Fawkes masks) which are holding mixers, blenders or kitchen mixing tools in their hands?

I, for one, don't see any connection between the avatars from the above section and the service itself...

I know, it may be a difficult work, but I am sure that such avatars would be appreciated.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dkbit98 on July 20, 2023, 07:52:52 PM
We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.
Last one is looking better than others, however I wouldn't pick any of them for Mixtum avatars, but in general idea of using avatar characters is not bad.
Maybe you could go with small modification of using masked hero characters like Zorro, Vendetta, Darth Vader, Batman, Flash, Spiderman, imagined Satoshi, etc. ;)
You don't have to use exact characters I mentioned, but I think you get the idea what I wanted to say.

15 Greatest Masked Superheroes:
https://fictionhorizon.com/greatest-masked-superheroes-ranked/


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: paid2 on July 22, 2023, 07:52:16 PM
Hi all. We need your objective assessment!

We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.

I quite agree with Gazeta, I'd see more something that includes someone wearing a mask for example, or something directly related to your business ; something that invokes anonymity in some way.

How about a masked man using a kitchen blender?  ;D

In any case, it's really cool that you're consulting forum users to get their opinions, I can't wait to see the new avatars!  :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 22, 2023, 07:56:44 PM
Hi all. We need your objective assessment!

We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.

I quite agree with Gazeta, I'd see more something that includes someone wearing a mask for example, or something directly related to your business ; something that invokes anonymity in some way.

How about a masked man using a kitchen blender?  ;D

In any case, it's really cool that you're consulting forum users to get their opinions, I can't wait to see the new avatars!  :)
I think it may look quite funnier/creative if they put a bar guy hands mixing drinks https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmB1-cr6gOlwy0Eck9ysJiZEb-wE0tekyqQA&usqp=CAU


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Real-Duke on July 22, 2023, 11:00:25 PM
If I may share my opinion, I would rather suggest you to try something more related to the service activity -- which is BTC mixing. Maybe create some avatars with small guys with anonymous faces (maybe having faces similar to this one (https://i.ibb.co/h24DCW6/haking-is-the-new-espionage-410x222.jpg) or faces wearing Guy Fawkes masks) which are holding mixers, blenders or kitchen mixing tools in their hands?

+1

They should be avatars that in some way indicate something about your service or show the well-known image such as the Guy Fawkes masks like already mentioned by GazetaBitcoin. Such simple avatars with faces and your service name underneath have no significance in my opinion.
Hopefully your graphic designers can create something suitable here :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 23, 2023, 06:02:25 AM
Hi all. We need your objective assessment!

We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.

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          Oh no! I don't see any connection at all between these avatars and the mixer. There must be some other image, but definitely not this one.
         
          I liked the suggestion of using a masked character with a blender. It will be a memorable character. People need to understand and see the analogy. Also, you need to fit in the avatar not only the name of the service, but also what it is.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 24, 2023, 06:11:50 AM
       Far from perfect, but I offer this option as an avatar. In truth, the creativity can be endless. The flight of fancy is unlimited. Naturally, this will take a lot of time, but it's worth it. You need to make associations with recognizable comic book characters, if it comes to that. Look at the trends of the series that are relevant at the moment. The return will be much greater.
https://i.ibb.co/h14cBzT/1.jpg (https://ibb.co/x8BY1Tr)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: UchihaSarada on July 24, 2023, 10:19:58 AM
Hi all. We need your objective assessment!

We want to introduce some changes and are trying to create a set of cool avatars and would like to know what you think of the current options.

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I like the last avatar because the text is better displayed than the second one.

Could I know why the MixTum team thought of using a super hero avatar but not other things, please.

I don't see connection between the service, its product and a super hero.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on July 24, 2023, 11:48:25 AM
I like the last avatar because the text is better displayed than the second one.

Could I know why the MixTum team thought of using a super hero avatar but not other things, please.

I don't see connection between the service, its product and a super hero.
       Why was the superhero chosen as the avatar? It is nothing but an associative image. It is much easier for a person to remember if there is some analogy known to him. This is how an image is formed in the thought process and everything that can be connected with it. The picture (avatar) should be of such content that it will stick in memory.
        Yes, this is a great idea, but it still needs to be worked hard for a significant return on traffic.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 24, 2023, 12:21:48 PM
fruktik please be aware that multiple posts in a row are not allowed. According to Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0),

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

As a consequence, your second post in a row (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62594118#msg62594118) will be either deleted or merged by the moderator with the earlier one. It depends from mod to mod -- some delete them and some merge such posts. In any case, you should pay attention to this rule in the future and, at same time, since I already gave you that topic for reference, maybe you should read the entire set of rules. I hope this helps.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on July 28, 2023, 12:32:52 PM
Maybe you could go with small modification of using masked hero characters like Zorro, Vendetta, Darth Vader, Batman, Flash, Spiderman [...]
I quite agree with Gazeta, I'd see more something that includes someone wearing a mask for example, or something directly related to your business ; something that invokes anonymity in some way. [...]
They should be avatars that in some way indicate something about your service or show the well-known image such as the Guy Fawkes [...]
It was my idea. The concept was that each participant in the campaign will have an individual avatar, by which users will recognize him over time.

Here is the new style... there will be about 30-40 different avatars (so there will be plenty to choose from). I want to add that there will be a lot of characters whose face is hidden.

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Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 28, 2023, 05:20:28 PM
It was my idea. The concept was that each participant in the campaign will have an individual avatar, by which users will recognize him over time. [...]

there will be about 30-40 different avatars (so there will be plenty to choose from). I want to add that there will be a lot of characters whose face is hidden.

Oh this is put things in another light... I think I understand what you mean and the idea is good. But only by seeing the earlier post nobody could understand the idea behind the suggested avatars. In any case, I think this will look appealing to forum users, since each one wearing such avatar could be differentiated by the other.

Obviously, oh idea of having masked guys and I think that most will be attracted by these faces. So maybe it would be a good idea to have more masked faces, with different styles / masks. Perhaps the avatars will be given on the principle of "first come - first served"?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on July 31, 2023, 05:14:59 PM
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Yes, I also think that MixTum's corporate colors combined with individual avatars would add charm to the project.

I think that in a week or so I will have all the avatars ready ... btw, my avatar is also from this collection.

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Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on August 01, 2023, 08:24:37 AM
I think that in a week or so I will have all the avatars ready ... btw, my avatar is also from this collection.

I think that our dear icopress was a fan of Street Fighter II :) I see that some of the avatars look like the characters from that game.

For example, the one used by icopress looks like Ken. In the first row, the fourth from left to right looks like Sagat. On last row, the fifth from left to right looks like Blanka. I really loved that game and I remember I spent so many hours in front of machines working with coins for playing this game...

And I believe you said there will be also some masked ones?

Oh and I see there is also one looking like a puppy kitty... Maybe you can try to create one looking like a small fox?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on August 01, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
It was my idea. The concept was that each participant in the campaign will have an individual avatar, by which users will recognize him over time.


I have to admit that I like the idea, I am always of the opinion that the avatar should be unique for each user.
Here I would just suggest that the image is too dominant in relation to the text. Somehow, I would try to emphasize the Mixtum text more, after all, it is part of the promotion and should be clearly visible.
Just my 2sat.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Lucius on August 01, 2023, 02:12:59 PM
It was my idea. The concept was that each participant in the campaign will have an individual avatar, by which users will recognize him over time.

Personally, I don't like such avatars too much, but I have nothing against them existing as an option for those who want to use them. In addition, I think that from an advertising perspective, avatars are far less effective than signatures, a direct link is still a direct link.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Lakai01 on August 01, 2023, 06:26:53 PM
Hi [banned mixer]!

After consulting @icopress, I translated the announcement article into German today. I hope the article will help to increase the use of [banned mixer] in our German community!
I will also write a tutorial in German in the next days and link it directly in the announcement article.

This is the link: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Gestartet im Jahr 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461715.msg62633659#msg62633659)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dkbit98 on August 01, 2023, 10:19:29 PM
I think that in a week or so I will have all the avatars ready ... btw, my avatar is also from this collection.
I think you are missing another bald guy avatar from that collection, or you kept it only for special super-heroes   :D


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on August 01, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
I think that in a week or so I will have all the avatars ready ... btw, my avatar is also from this collection.
I think you are missing another bald guy avatar from that collection, or you kept it only for special super-heroes   :D
Don't hesitate... one special superhero with beautiful eyes will be wearing this avatar soon [you just haven't received my PM yet]. ;D

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Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dkbit98 on August 01, 2023, 10:59:28 PM
Don't hesitate... one special superhero with beautiful eyes will be wearing this avatar soon [you just haven't received my PM yet]. ;D

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You know I am ready, just add different text below ;)
He reminds me a little on the Pinguin character aka Oswald Cobblepot (Danny DeVito) from old Batman movie, if you are counting super villains in your avatars... but Catwoman would look cool :)

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QxA48.jpeg


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: fruktik on August 02, 2023, 06:15:05 AM
      I also wanted to add that the name of the mixer must be on the avatars. It is desirable if it is indicated what kind of site it is. This makes perception easier.
     
      Yes, I really liked the last picture. Far better than the ones before. Great, because the project will have its own specific originality. Tired of seeing mediocrity. Like a blueprint everyone is licking each other.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: tg88 on August 05, 2023, 01:06:46 AM
Hello [banned mixer], as suggested by icopress, I have translated the official topic into Portuguese: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462129.0)

I hope this will make it easier for Portuguese speakers to access the information, and I wish for the continued growth of [banned mixer] business.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: BenCodie on August 13, 2023, 07:10:31 AM
Just edited my previously reserved post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4966853.msg62563354#msg62563354) with my review of MixTum :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: stompix on August 24, 2023, 08:28:33 AM
Till I'll be able to create my own review as being on the mercy of a hotel wi-fi for Tor is a pain in the ass, I wanted to point out two things on the review page:

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4. FaucetHub.io - official [banned mixer] press release and comments to it below (Press Release & User Comments)
7. Bitcoin-mixer.biz - [banned mixer] Review

Both links are dead, faucethub.io redirects to faucetgame.com which is up for sale on sedo and Bitcoin-mixer.biz is on saw.com (also a domain broker).




Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on August 28, 2023, 09:45:46 PM
Both links are dead, faucethub.io redirects to faucetgame.com which is up for sale on sedo and Bitcoin-mixer.biz is on saw.com (also a domain broker).
Thank you!

We really overlooked these old reviews, and will try to update the information soon (and also try to update the FAQ).


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: stompix on September 03, 2023, 11:54:41 AM
Finally managed a few days to get enough free time and a bit of silence around me to sum it up and not forget the details I come across, hard to do it while on holiday, so to mix a bit of funds and have a better look at what I'm advertising.

From the start, what matters, it all went well, I trusted the thing about the clean coins so I did risk one of my exchange accounts that's fully KYC and it's been way more than 72 hours so I guess the coins are indeed clean.

Now the small details that I encountered:
The free mixing:
- the mixer offers a 1mbtc free mix to test it, I didn't choose that option since I thought everyone that was doing that,  but I did browse a bit so I realized that even if you choose the free mixing the calculator at the bottom will still show you a fee and the sums as 0.00025.Don't know if it's a turn-off for a newbie trying to test it, as obviously it will still pay the fee if he ever does bigger sums but I guess it was worth mentioning, the team probably knows better the data behind usage.

The guarantee letter
- Since the WW fiasco I have looked more at these letters of guarantee which in CM times I didn't even bother, so lesson learned. WW had those before and after the cash out, with it being issued for the mixing address before a coin even leaves your pocket might grant a bit more ease of mind to the ones doing the mix. No matter what technical issues arise with the website the letter is there the addresses are there, so less hassle and more traditional simple mixing feels better right now.

The process itself:
- the letter said it's valid for 168  hours BUT! I wasn't going to be that guy and test what happens if I send a fee that will not confirmed in that time, probably anything under 5sat/B won't make it in a week but I'm still curious, what happens if someone does so?
The FAQ says:
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They remain valid for 7 days. This period is sufficient to address any network issues, delays, and human errors that may occur, thus guaranteeing safety of customer's assets.
But I'm pretty sure since Mixtum is that old it never encountered a period of months (4 counting now) when small fee tx are not getting confirmed.
So, are funds received after the expired time returned? Probably a confirmation would bring a bit of relief to people who are by nature more suspicious and worried about everything.
I realize that it's something stupid to send 2 BTC while getting cheap and paying 5sat/b to save 20 cents but you never know!

- the funds did get sent in the timeframe,  again after having to wait for hours Whirwhind, this was a relief, but I must acknowledge I was a bit anxious all the time, reading other reviews there must be a bit of randomness in the interval so I guess it's enough.

- I did try to follow a bit the source of money, but I'm on a mobile and I'm really not comfortable checking it, as long as it works it works.

I think Mixtum is a bit different in what offers, rather than breaking the chain it offers you clean coins, so if you're not just wanting to hide where coins came from but have no fear of sending those to services it's worth paying the price,  the fee might be steep for some but if indeed it delivers, then the end result might give more peace of mind which worth a lot.

Once I'm back home I will try the precise payment method, I just went over it, and here is a suggestion, maybe remove the calculator from that page, It makes no sense having it since the amounts are already fixed and it uses a different percentage fee.

Another thing, about the reviews I mentioned:
https://bitcoin2litecoin.com/best-bitcoin-mixing-services/
They seem like they've edited the page recently and I can't find Mixtum on it anywhere, probably got paid by somebody else to be listed there or are trying to fleece you to keep you listed.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: 1miau on September 03, 2023, 05:47:12 PM
Finally, I've found some time to write a few words as well.  :)

First, your website is very nice and clean (very important for a mixer) ^^ and overally I like your design very much. It's clear and straight forward.
Most information is available on your website, people can read all important information and discover it easily.

But one important point: before entering our address, where outgoing funds should be sent to, it would be nice to display your minimum / maximum deposit amounts.
Because it happenend to me, when I wanted to mix a small amount first, I needed to cancel my attempt because my amount has been lower than allowed. If displayed first, how much min. amount is needed, we could see it directly before starting to enter any data.

Mixing process is easy but maybe when coins are send you can add a few lines what to do next / how to proceed. It might clear some remaining questions. Mixing itself went without problems in MixTum's specified time frame and arrived in my wallet. I'm just wondering because I received 2 transactions and transaction fees of these 2 transactions have been exactly the same. Is it normal or wouldn't it be better to have different tansactions fee amounts? Maybe I'm not aware and missing how it's better like it is (most likely MixTum has a reason to handle it like that). Just curious.  :)

Fees are between 4-5% + 0.0007 BTC but especially a fixed BTC amount (+ 0.0007 BTC) hurts for low amounts making it around 10-15% fee to mix around 200 USD of Bitcoin, where I woud say it's quite high, but we also know MixTum applies a new innovative mixing strategy and while Blockchain analysis companies are improving constantly, paying a bit more and receiving a good service is better than paying low fees, where even a script kiddie can code a program to connect incoming and outgoing transaction.

What I would like is an independant coder (or many) doing an investigation, if your mixing strategy is really that realiable and input + output can't be connected, like here from madu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117328.0).
But from all mixers out there currently, I believe MixTum is far ahead of mixing practices.

After all, I believe its a good deal because MixTum can become a very innovative and also trusted mixer. I'm definitely looking forward to MixTum establishing their service.  :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on September 05, 2023, 01:50:11 PM
1miau, stompix Thanks for joining the discussion... I guess we'll see more big names in this thread soon.  :)

While you're here, I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service, and I would say that MixTum is open to dialogue. Unfortunately, my technical knowledge is not enough to provide compelling arguments in favor of implementing this idea. I know that this is a very sensitive issue that requires a lot of money and a good specialist, but hypothetically this could allow you to take mixing to a new level (including hosting for all child mixers). Although, on the other hand, this is, on the contrary, a huge hole in vulnerability... so I would be grateful if someone more technically trained took the time to describe all the pros and cons.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dkbit98 on September 05, 2023, 06:21:41 PM
While you're here, I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service, and I would say that MixTum is open to dialogue.
Hosting service for what exactly? Just for mixing websites??
I am not sure this is a good idea, and I wouldn't call any hosting service really independent.
Now just imagine scenario of some government shutting down and seizing mixer, they would automatically seize all the data from connected hosting service.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Danydee on September 05, 2023, 10:38:35 PM
I've gave a try on the Free-Try mode ,

everything went smoothly, nothing to report.. perfect! 👍 🙂


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2023, 12:53:12 PM
I know that this is a very sensitive issue that requires a lot of money and a good specialist, but hypothetically this could allow you to take mixing to a new level (including hosting for all child mixers).

Indeed it's a very sensitive issue and those child mixers could be a big problem to Mixtum because one of them might be use by hackers to mix stolen funds that the government will trace the stolen coins to their mixer and an attempt to go after them, Mixtum comes into the picture and also become a targeted mixer by the FBI. It's just not worth the risk.

The pros has to do with publicity (Mixtum getting more popular in the crypto space) and a stream of revenue for hosting other mixers but the cons comes with getting shutdown (probably due to the reason I described above).


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Mr.right85 on September 06, 2023, 06:07:27 PM
While you're here, I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service, and I would say that MixTum is open to dialogue.
Hosting service for what exactly? Just for mixing websites??
I am not sure this is a good idea, and I wouldn't call any hosting service really independent.
Yeah, been trying to get the deal on hosting services and it’s too vague but if I should narrow things down, am left with domains to consider…
Is that it @Icopress or am just not getting it?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on September 06, 2023, 06:13:52 PM
While you're here, I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service, and I would say that MixTum is open to dialogue. Unfortunately, my technical knowledge is not enough to provide compelling arguments in favor of implementing this idea. I know that this is a very sensitive issue that requires a lot of money and a good specialist, but hypothetically this could allow you to take mixing to a new level (including hosting for all child mixers). Although, on the other hand, this is, on the contrary, a huge hole in vulnerability... so I would be grateful if someone more technically trained took the time to describe all the pros and cons.


I think this is a bad idea. Hosting as a service or business is very complex. It requires a serious infrastructure, I believe that in this case, it would require much more than the mixing service itself.

I am not sure this is a good idea, and I wouldn't call any hosting service really independent.
Now just imagine scenario of some government shutting down and seizing mixer, they would automatically seize all the data from connected hosting service.


Mixer services are not the worst thing that exists on the Internet. There are much more serious violations of some norms, I'm not sure that's the reason hosting providers are shutting down. I believe only after refusing to cooperate and forwarding the collected data about the "risky" hosted site.

As far as I know, there are hosting services that do not require KYC, so with access through a VPN, it is theoretically possible to create anonymity there. But as I have never used hosting with such possibilities, I cannot claim this with certainty.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Lakai01 on September 07, 2023, 06:34:22 AM
While you're here, I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service, and I would say that MixTum is open to dialogue.
-snip-

I'm afraid that the disadvantages clearly outweigh the benefits here:
  • For me as an end customer, the question would arise why I should use a child service and not go straight to the original. Mixtum will most likely charge fees for operating the service, so the savings opportunities for end customers won't be too great either. Without fees, MixTum will hardly offer this, as it will directly create a competition that will drain its own customers. There would have to be a "unique selling point" for each child service, which would also give the end customer a clear advantage for using it. To balance this in such a way that MixTum does not harm itself, is I think almost impossible.
  • For MixTum itself, offering child services would also have a potentially big disadvantage: they would be a very lucrative target for authorities to seize them. If MixTum were to be shut down in such a case, many other mixers would also be shut down in one fell swoop. In addition, it is much more likely that details will become known in such a corporate network that make MixTum more vulnerable (contracts, access-logs, ...). The effort to protect the identities is therefore most likely also significantly increased.

Even if I could definitely like the idea behind it from MixTum's point of view, very good strategies would have to be considered here in order to mitigate the disadvantages. Then, however, the question arises for me whether the expected profit is so great that the whole thing is worthwhile. However, one would have to know the balance sheet of MixTum to be able to judge that.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on September 07, 2023, 08:23:40 AM
For MixTum itself, offering child services would also have a potentially big disadvantage: they would be a very lucrative target for authorities to seize them. If MixTum were to be shut down in such a case, many other mixers would also be shut down in one fell swoop. In addition, it is much more likely that details will become known in such a corporate network that make MixTum more vulnerable (contracts, access-logs, ...).

This is a very good point of view, together with the fact that users should trust the mixer even more than they should trust it anyway, for using its services. Usually, a mixing website should imply to keep the trust needed at a minimum level.

And, in this regard, I would also ask this question: is there any other mixer with such functionalities? I did not hear about any other one yet... So I believe that other developers, in case they thought about such idea, since they did not use it then it must have more cons than pros...


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on September 07, 2023, 12:12:21 PM
... but hypothetically this could allow you to take mixing to a new level (including hosting for all child mixers). Although, on the other hand, this is, on the contrary, a huge hole in vulnerability... so I would be grateful if someone more technically trained took the time to describe all the pros and cons.


Since quite a lot has already been said about the disadvantages of implementing such an idea, I will try to reflect on the potential pros. Child mixers can help distribute users' funds. That is, anonymity increases even more. Since the mixers in general are created to achieve this very goal, I think the increase in anonymity can be a good reason for users to use this particular service. Also, strategies, mixing algorithms may differ from the main mixer to the child ones, so users have more choice this way, which in turn again enhances confidentiality. Since anonymity is the main reason why users turn to mixers, I think that ways to deepen it are very promising for those who offer such services.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on September 07, 2023, 10:16:19 PM
For MixTum itself, offering child services would also have a potentially big disadvantage: they would be a very lucrative target for authorities to seize them. If MixTum were to be shut down in such a case, many other mixers would also be shut down in one fell swoop. In addition, it is much more likely that details will become known in such a corporate network that make MixTum more vulnerable (contracts, access-logs, ...).

This is a very good point of view, together with the fact that users should trust the mixer even more than they should trust it anyway, for using its services. Usually, a mixing website should imply to keep the trust needed at a minimum level.

And, in this regard, I would also ask this question: is there any other mixer with such functionalities? I did not hear about any other one yet... So I believe that other developers, in case they thought about such idea, since they did not use it then it must have more cons than pros...

Mixtum is already a child of the [banned mixer] Mixers partner network, and it is not the only one. It seems that such a system is working, at least for now.
It can be said that they all bear the same amount of risk as any other mixer.

The whole thing is still more of a question for the Mixtum team, What are their technical and financial capacities of course... Regardless, I believe it's only a matter of time before Jumbler gets competition.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: stompix on September 08, 2023, 12:41:48 AM
I waited a bit to hear some other opinions not to be the only one pointing out some rather troublesome things that might arise.

Assuming the hosting thing was only for child mixing and not other services and that those child services would rely just as some do right now on Jambler but on Mixtum there are a few things that are pros and some cons
- for sure exposure, more people working for a referral fee, more business more money
- what would that be worth it, it would mean child mixers would also have a share of the pie, let's say 2.5% plus 5% it becomes pricy
- more mixed coins would normally mean higher mixing obfuscation but within the mixtum model, is this possible?
- obviously being exploited by a third party who would use this as a cover, but I don't know what would stop them from using it right now directly

I would like to play down the whole thing about getting in trouble because of a child mixer, nothing prevents the main branch from getting in trouble right now if somebody wants to abuse it and besides with a child service you could also play the I didn't know it card. I've never heard of big hosting companies getting in trouble for the content some users deployed on their reseller's platforms, it's always the first link of the chain that gets blamed for everything.

But of course, we could probably analyze this better if as much as the situation allows we would have a better view of what they would try to achieve, so if it's anything different than what we think it is please do correct us.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: satscraper on September 08, 2023, 05:00:14 PM
I'd like to bring up a topic... not too long ago I was chatting with MixTum about the prospects of creating a completely independent hosting service,


For the reason of security their back-end server which runs  mixing procedure and relevant database/s must be their host while for the  front-end there is no such strict requirement. Instead of "child mixers"  I would advocate for implementing server failover (if they don't have any) as the other independent host.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on September 10, 2023, 08:32:18 PM
Assuming the hosting thing was only for child mixing and not other services

In the first post with the topic of the entire hosing, I already responded to dkbit98's statement, maybe I didn't have a good look at the whole discussion.

Quote
what would that be worth it, it would mean child mixers would also have a share of the pie, let's say 2.5% plus 5% it becomes pricy

I think that here the parent does not have to take a high percentage of the earnings from the partners. Unlike child, hosting will not have to go into marketing much, so it is expected that they will give up that part of the profit.

Quote
more mixed coins would normally mean higher mixing obfuscation but within the mixtum model, is this possible?

I saw that Jambler even offers part of the profit to "investors" who bring clear Bitcoin (from exchanges for example). An interesting method, but it would be good to see how it looks in practice.


I see the problem of child mixers here because they all look and function very similar, almost the same. Well, that can lead the user to think that it is a clone or a scam.



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: LeGaulois on September 13, 2023, 04:32:09 PM
@[banned mixer]

PM sent  ;D


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on September 14, 2023, 03:55:55 PM
thanks to the great initiative from icopress, we from Icarus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0) will soon be able to present you the MixTum 0.001BTC cards. the production of the cards will start this week and will most likely be distributed by MixTum to the users in various raffles.
the total number of cards will be 20 for now.
i thank MixTum already for the great interest and cooperation :)🤝


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on September 18, 2023, 02:32:49 PM
Cygan, Thanks for sharing this.

I forwarded your post to MixTum, but they wrote to me that they didn’t have enough merit to appreciate your post. Lol.

Therefore, if you don’t mind, I will do this on their behalf.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on September 18, 2023, 05:23:43 PM
✂️
I forwarded your post to MixTum, but they wrote to me that they didn’t have enough merit to appreciate your post. Lol.
✂️

very good. but doesn't @[banned mixer] read here itself or why the forwarding of my post?
i honestly assumed that they read it here - thats why i have created a message about the cards in this thread here


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on September 19, 2023, 12:59:59 PM
thanks to the great initiative from icopress, we from Icarus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0) will soon be able to present you the MixTum 0.001BTC cards. the production of the cards will start this week and will most likely be distributed by MixTum to the users in various raffles.

This is great news, cygan! I was not aware that you will create another set of cards, but I am more than glad to hear this! And, of course, count me in for those raffles :) However, I would recommend you / MixTum / icopress, for more visibility, to announce here as well when a raffle will be launched.

✂️
I forwarded your post to MixTum, but they wrote to me that they didn’t have enough merit to appreciate your post. Lol.
very good. but doesn't @[banned mixer] read here itself or why the forwarding of my post?

First of all, I noticed that you changed your scissors :) I was used to the other ones (✂). Nevertheless, it's obvious that you are a master of emojis :)
Second of all, I believe that icopress tried to be cautious with the news you presented, making sure that MixTum will not miss it. Maybe they don't watch this thread everyday and there are chance to miss your post, in case plenty of other posts would be written meanwhile. So having the news sent to them through a direct communication channel will only ensure the delivery of the message.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on September 19, 2023, 01:36:47 PM
✂️
This is great news, cygan! I was not aware that you will create another set of cards, but I am more than glad to hear this! And, of course, count me in for those raffles :) However, I would recommend you / MixTum / icopress, for more visibility, to announce here as well when a raffle will be launched.
✂️

if everything goes well, i will present the [banned mixer] x Icarus cards here in this thread this week.
and so that you all other interested don't want to miss any raffles in the future, i recommend this thread (created by me): [INFO] never miss a free raffle/auction again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439439.0)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on September 25, 2023, 04:45:08 PM
with this post i would like to introduce you the [banned mixer] x Icarus cards, which will be distributed to the users by MixTum through various raffles.
there are 20 cards in total (serials and their addresses can be found in the list below), each funded with 0.001BTC by [banned mixer]. i would suggest [banned mixer] to send the 0.001BTC to the cards only after they have reached the user by mail. this way you can avoid that the valuable satoshis are gone (in case the cards disappear by mail).

a few words about the [banned mixer] cards - on the front side the following is printed: serial (embossed - bottom left), BTC address (top center), qr-code of the respective BTC address (right center) and the block time of production (bottom right).
and on the back side there is the hologram (thanks to polymer bit), which protects the private key in form of a qr-code, which is printed on the card (which is additionally secured with a piece of paper). furthermore, both sides are professionally laminated and have a top quality

Code:
MIXTUM.1 : bc1qrzkf3xjhvraz306jq3gzgjlnm8mflmn665dd3l
MIXTUM.2 : bc1qp77pz546ye6rwm2d9tc7j97plxcmpz9hk8vent
MIXTUM.3 : bc1q46rqsn8mejv4cquz95jy3xf97tldftcf6sucp0
MIXTUM.4 : bc1q9ld0x5nlv2r7kanfuvynaq6hsgzxmkya9ulsy6
MIXTUM.5 : bc1qm8lr05eznv89dw4dq98fagfqxctmj359xpkpzr
MIXTUM.6 : bc1qdes7rptgl7khckrftydjzwge8vvz98lumgxxfc
MIXTUM.7 : bc1qwufvklf5hs4yg6cnvk5znawxuz569vqwhtdp2t
MIXTUM.8 : bc1qc6hul0d5629jw0hdt6e8v60pntfz0ncgmp3uk4
MIXTUM.9 : bc1qv5s07dr2khz6zls370zapmlfxsejm4vdhs7xhw
MIXTUM.10 : bc1qvajegrg28xrk8lluwew5gx4dzheq4wx55nkka3
MIXTUM.11 : bc1qvy93f2qfhzp3duu48y2p6qpa76jmu4zn0f7trz
MIXTUM.12 : bc1qhfslgex6sz32ltena9fvyrzavafvaqjtk7fpp6
MIXTUM.13 : bc1qwzxt7ec76c0xtu44zfsz9mqwq8ugyzsjwqpqng
MIXTUM.14 : bc1qhpuzh9x56jpqm56g5unfsx652fha7lx65utqk6
MIXTUM.15 : bc1qn2aammyuycuuzg0wjkwcl688lpy7h3s4dutz2j
MIXTUM.16 : bc1qqdnc2e2k76xdgyspks56zhw8u944qvj89v9rvu
MIXTUM.17 : bc1q8hzw609x79pgpqdzqx2j0adsvcvcsmp0pz9plt
MIXTUM.18 : bc1qqekzqqm3nehyzqglrpgckvmknewgvdvg3vx299
MIXTUM.19 : bc1qdez9l6g0l62vmzk0cgx6lhqtlufs0h92f6w5wx
MIXTUM.20 : bc1q65ae6h40cv267vu4ygx9k24vlv8my6rtl93pz8

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PSRB8.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PStd3.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PSzFw.png


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on September 26, 2023, 01:43:02 PM
with this post i would like to introduce you the [banned mixer] x Icarus cards

Wow, these cards look impressive! cygan, you are a craft master!

Obviously, after seeing how well these cards look like, many users want to have one of them, but only 20 will be the lucky owners of these cards. I wish good luck to all raffle participants (including to me :)). Seriously, the card look very, very good.

I also think it's a very good idea to ship the cards unloaded and load them only after the user confirms he received the package.

I don't know what to say more, other than the fact that I am very impressed. Is there any chance to have more such cards produced...?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on September 26, 2023, 01:52:26 PM
✂️
Is there any chance to have more such cards produced...?

there is in any case the possibility to secure the upcoming Icarus series. from october onwards it will start 8)
[ANN - INFO] Project Icarus: The forum redemption story 🔐 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: apogio on September 27, 2023, 07:22:32 AM
My Experience
So, I fired up TOR and pasted this link: http://[banned mixer]/

I was presented with the following page:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/27/PmkR8.png

I chose to mix my coins (not the free option).

I was presented with this page:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/27/Pm3UZ.png

I added my desired receiving address and I did not enter a secondary address.

There was minimum limit to the amount of sats I was allowed to send. It was 300k sats. I sent a little more than the lowest amount.

I received 2 UTXOs at random time intervals (one in the first hour and one after 4 hours). The amounts were also random. However, having added one address only, I got both UTXOs to the same address.

My Thoughts
  • I wanted the system to allow me to add more addresses and choose the amount of UTXOs to receive. I should be able to receive all UTXOs in separate addresses for privacy reasons.
  • The fact that the time intervals and the amounts are random is very good.
  • The whole process was super easy. I was surprised by the convenience and ease of use.
  • The total time of return is up to 6 hours. Perhaps it could be also decided by the user. The website could provide some options (i.e. 3hrs, 6hrs, 9hrs etc) and the user could choose from these.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: stompix on October 02, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
with this post i would like to introduce you the [banned mixer] x Icarus cards, which will be distributed to the users by MixTum through various raffles.
there are 20 cards in total (serials and their addresses can be found in the list below), each funded with 0.001BTC by [banned mixer].

Any updates on this?

And about, since I have a solid record of always picking the wrong numbers, estimators, everything, close to becoming a legend in the mining speculation board on my misses,  so I know my chances of winning the raffle are below zero  ;D is there any chance of making a batch for purchase?

A simple batch, no need for it to be funded so it doesn't imply any financial constraint on mixtum, and make it something like a pre-order?
If you find 10, 20 30 how much is required for guys willing to pay and put down the money you make if not, that's it,next?
Just a thought as I guess nobody will lose a thing and everyone gets something, Mixtum in advertising, you in making something to be remembered  :D , and us getting some sort of not that limited but still limited shiny card.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on October 03, 2023, 03:48:44 PM
@stompix the decision, how and when the cards will be distributed to the users is no longer up to me but to [banned mixer] and 'maybe' also to icopress, who might organize all this - but we will see in time ;)
and as i wrote before, these [banned mixer] cards will never be available for purchase. but if you are interested in more Icarus cards, i would highly recommend this official thread:
[ANN - INFO] Project Icarus: The forum redemption story 🔐 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 03, 2023, 06:41:54 PM
Notes:

- Copying the deposit address doesn't work in Tor (it copies "undefined" string).
- You should clarify the free mixing it actually free, because I hit "Try now for free" and it showed a fee calculator which somewhat contradicts.

Checked the anonymity set of my coin from my blockchain explorer, and it seems pretty high. Pretty neat mixer.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: NotATether on October 07, 2023, 05:39:54 AM
I sent a deposit to Mixtum and downloaded my letter of guarantee.

Although there is quite a large mempool backlog even for a normal fee, but at least the session is valid for 6 days.

Let's see how this goes...

Edit: The mix was successful. However, the page that tells you to deposit never says the deposit has been confirmed. It is stuck at "awaiting confirmation...", but it's strictly a frontend issue.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: stompix on October 07, 2023, 10:33:09 AM
Although there is quite a large mempool backlog even for a normal fee, but at least the session is valid for 6 days.

You're in luck, it's Saturday and the mempool is clearing again 1.8 sat/b as I type, just got one consolidation confirmed two blocks away.

Another thing, since BlackHatCoiner mentioned the score of the coins coming from Mixtum which is indeed better than others, might it be possible that just as I did, you guys are cleaning coins from .... another mixer? Of course, I don't really think one should give that away since we're doing this for privacy reasons but I think I'm not the only one using Mixtum to really get the dirt off!  ;D ;D



Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: NotATether on October 07, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
Another thing, since BlackHatCoiner mentioned the score of the coins coming from Mixtum which is indeed better than others, might it be possible that just as I did, you guys are cleaning coins from .... another mixer? Of course, I don't really think one should give that away since we're doing this for privacy reasons but I think I'm not the only one using Mixtum to really get the dirt off!  ;D ;D

Blockchair give my mix a privacy score of a grand total of 0. But they said they were only able correlate all of the other addresses in my transaction. So they might figure out that it is a Mixtum mix, but they will not know who received the mix. As long as you don't send them to KYC'ed locations of course!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: sokani on October 12, 2023, 05:44:11 PM
Hello [banned mixer],

Here's a pidgin translation of the Mixtum Ann: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470106.0


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Peanutswar on October 14, 2023, 01:38:31 PM
Good day Mixtum,

I made a translation to Filipino you can check it here. [TLS][banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Simula 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470321.0)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 15, 2023, 01:59:58 PM
Edit: The mix was successful. However, the page that tells you to deposit never says the deposit has been confirmed. It is stuck at "awaiting confirmation...", but it's strictly a frontend issue.

I've also done today a test mix (with Tor browser). And apart of the fact the mixed coins have arrived almost too fast after my sent ones (less than one hour), all was OK.
I've also noticed this message and I wanted to say about it, but I see there are already two reports :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 18, 2023, 05:14:36 PM
Please, anyone who wants to take care of translating our main thread, post the link here so we can add the link to the OP.

Hey MixTum, there are some translations posted for a while now in your topic, but which were not added to OP yet. The translations are the following ones:

1. Filipino
I made a translation to Filipino you can check it here. [TLS][banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Simula 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470321.0)

2. Portuguese
I have translated the official topic into Portuguese: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462129.0)

3. German
After consulting @icopress, I translated the announcement article into German today. [...]

This is the link: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Gestartet im Jahr 2018 🛡️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461715.msg62633659#msg62633659)

I hope this reminder will be useful.



At same time, there are also 2 translations pending:

1. Arabic
Working on the Arabic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459457.msg62536331#new

2. Urdu
RESERVED THIS PLACE FOR URDU LANGUAGE TRANSLATION OF [banned mixer]

I considered it's better to mentioned these ones as well, in case thepeterson and HONDACD125 forgot about their reservations.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on October 23, 2023, 01:31:45 PM
Hey MixTum, there are some translations posted for a while now in your topic, but which were not added to OP yet.
Thanks for pointing this out. The OP has just been updated.

We are also launching raffle today so stay tuned for the news!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on October 23, 2023, 02:14:56 PM
We are glad to present our first raffle!

https://i.ibb.co/RPSnJfR/1.png

This series of drawings will be dedicated to MixTum collectible cards, created in collaboration with Icarus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0).  Thanks to icopress and Cygan!

Only 20 cards have been released, 1 card is reserved and 19 MixTum cards will be given away!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 23, 2023, 03:36:02 PM
Hooooray!

And, meanwhile, a second raffle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471359) has also been launched :)

I am glad because I caught an empty slot at the second raffle :) It was incredible to see how fast the spots got occupied: 40 minutes for the first raffle and 22 minutes for the second one! Amazing!


Title: Re: New Website Design! MixTum is now available in Telegram!
Post by: Etranger on October 29, 2023, 10:03:55 AM
Moreover, the MixTum mixing service is now available directly through the telegram bot. Find @mixtum_bot and follow the instructions. Very easy to use. Requires no more additional steps on your end.

Hey, I was trying to use the Telegram Bot, for no specific reason, just wanted to see who it works exactly. And it seems to me that nothing really happened, no instructions were provided. I started, but no options came out. Maybe I did something wrong, although I tried to reach it from different accounts, using links from the official site, from the message sited above and also by just finding the bot in the Telegram search. I am pretty sure this is the official bot, that is why everything should be legit. But I am still waiting for the command to operate but got no response so far (it has been 12 minutes now)

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/29/TgiaW.jpeg


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: HONDACD125 on October 29, 2023, 05:36:28 PM
Quote from: GazetaBitcoin link=topic=4966853.msg63016257#msg63016257
[b
2. Urdu[/b]
RESERVED THIS PLACE FOR URDU LANGUAGE TRANSLATION OF [banned mixer]

I considered it's better to mentioned these ones as well, in case thepeterson and HONDACD125 forgot about their reservations.

Thanks Gazeta for reminding. I had completely forgotten about my reserve post. actually once I intended to start work on transaltion all Mixers ANN but due to some reasons I could not complete the work. Later I forgot about it but your reminder worked for me and I posted my first ANN translation in local boards. I have updated the reserved post and request OP to add my translation also in main page.


RESERVED THIS PLACE FOR URDU LANGUAGE TRANSLATION OF [banned mixer]

UPDATE

Successfully translated Main thread. you can check it in thr below link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg63073725#msg63073725

Special thanks to GazetaBitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1285797) for reminding me.




Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 30, 2023, 04:06:50 PM
Thanks for pointing this out. The OP has just been updated.

Thank you for this update! However, I spotted a small inconsistency:

[quote="➥ MixTum in [Russian] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456896.0) • [Arabic] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459457) • [Indonesian] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458485) • [French] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457445) • [Rom] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457192) • [German] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461715) • [Portug] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462129.0) • [Filipino] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470321.0) Try Testing /?mix=free][Mix Free] (https://[banned mixer)  & /][Tor] (http://[banned mixer)

If you look carefully, you can notice that Romanian and Portuguese appear as "Rom" and "Portug", instead of having their entire name displayed. Can you fix that too, please?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on November 04, 2023, 09:28:32 PM
If you look carefully, you can notice that Romanian and Portuguese appear as "Rom" and "Portug", instead of having their entire name displayed. Can you fix that too, please?
As far as I understand, this was done in order to save space in the navigation bar.  :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 04, 2023, 09:52:03 PM
As far as I understand, this was done in order to save space in the navigation bar.  :)

I understand the reason but, however, this will not help too much if other translations will appear, right?

In any case, I think there's still a lot of space remaining for not using those abbreviations and also for future translations to be listed. This is how the OP looks like on 1080p resolution, which is one of most used nowadays:

https://i.ibb.co/C9N8nBb/Untitled4.png

The empty space remaining can be seen highlighted. And, on bigger resolutions, the remaining space is even bigger, so there's no worry about the text not fitting the screen correctly :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on November 11, 2023, 03:36:38 PM
As far as I understand, this was done in order to save space in the navigation bar.  :)

I understand the reason but, however, this will not help too much if other translations will appear, right?

And this reason was not also applied to other mentioned translation, some of which has even more letters in their names. For example, "Indonesian" as a word is longer than "Romanian", and "Russian" only 1 character shorter than "Romanian", but those names wasn't shortened.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on November 18, 2023, 08:51:26 AM
And this reason was not also applied to other mentioned translation, some of which has even more letters in their names. For example, "Indonesian" as a word is longer than "Romanian", and "Russian" only 1 character shorter than "Romanian", but those names wasn't shortened.
I believe this is because some other words are much more difficult to shorten (more precisely, in their shortened form they may not convey the underlying meaning).


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on November 18, 2023, 09:00:36 AM
And this reason was not also applied to other mentioned translation, some of which has even more letters in their names. For example, "Indonesian" as a word is longer than "Romanian", and "Russian" only 1 character shorter than "Romanian", but those names wasn't shortened.
I believe this is because some other words are much more difficult to shorten (more precisely, in their shortened form they may not convey the underlying meaning).

You have a point on this matter, now I also see that Portuguese translation was also shortened to "Portug". However, I find it not so common as, for example, "rus" which is shortened for Russian and is familiar almost to everyone.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on November 19, 2023, 05:23:11 PM
Friends, hurry up! MixTum has published a new competition! ([Free Raffle] Exclusive MixTum collectible card №6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474682.new#new)).  ;)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 19, 2023, 06:26:14 PM
This time all spots were occupied in only 13 minutes! I guess it's a new record.
As usual, I was having my beauty sleep at that moment so I missed the raffle O0 Again.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on November 20, 2023, 08:58:22 AM
This time all spots were occupied in only 13 minutes! I guess it's a new record.

The winner was announced also in a quite short time.

Congratulations! We have a winner!

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Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on November 23, 2023, 11:27:02 AM
It seems our cards are a success!  :)

Received my card today! Thank you @[banned mixer]

https://i.ibb.co/NtyhT8h/IMG-7996.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: examplens on November 26, 2023, 12:51:48 AM
It seems our cards are a success!  :)


It looks like an interesting collector's item.

Two questions, you don't have any direct contact other than via email, telegram or any other chat?
What is happening with the Telegram bot, the link is on the site. There is no response.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 29, 2023, 07:52:08 AM
It seems our cards are a success!  :)

The cards are definitely a success! I just received today "my card" and it looks incredible! It's so shiny that it was actually difficult to take a proper photo, as so much light was reflected by the card!

MixTum, if you want, you can add now the 0.001 BTC on this card, as it arrived at destination.

I said "my card" between quotation marks because, in fact, it is DYING_S0UL's card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.msg63109973#msg63109973) :) He won it at your third raffle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.0) but he was very nice and allowed me to have his prize, due to crypto ban from his country. He did not want to risk having the card confiscated (or face other unpleasant situations) and allowed me to receive the card instead. Thank you DYING_S0UL for your generosity! And thank you MixTum for these raffles!

Here are some pictures:

https://i.ibb.co/kHm81QK/400467145-338756592222716-3297564532820593040-n.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/Jmx184g/370229517-6559062824220199-6320819847812916541-n.jpg

What I noticed though is the fact that the card is protected with a transparent plastic which is supposed to be removed (at least, in case the owner wants to have access to the private key). But the protection seems impossible to be removed. I am afraid that if I'll try to scratch it with my fingernail or something sharp I may damage the card. Any idea about how to remove that transparent protection? (Perhaps cygan knows more about this technicality?)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Ultegra134 on November 29, 2023, 07:58:46 AM
The cards are definitely a success! I just received today "my card" and it looks incredible! It's so shiny that it was actually difficult to take a proper photo, as so much light was reflected by the card!

MixTum, if you want, you can add now the 0.001 BTC on this card, as it arrived at destination.

I said "my card" between quotation marks because, in fact, it is DYING_S0UL's card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.msg63109973#msg63109973) :) He won it at your third raffle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.0) but he was very nice and allowed me to have his prize, due to crypto ban from his country. He did not want to risk having the card confiscated (or face other unpleasant situations) and allowed me to receive the card instead. Thank you DYING_S0UL for your generosity! And thank you MixTum for these raffles!
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What I noticed though is the fact that the card is protected with a transparent plastic which is supposed to be removed (at least, in case the owner wants to have access to the private key). But the protection seems impossible to be removed. I am afraid that if I'll try to scratch it with my fingernail or something sharp I may damage the card. Any idea about how to remove that transparent protection? (Perhaps cygan knows more about this technicality?)
It does look good indeed. Is it like a plastic film similar to the ones new screens have? If the glue is too strong I'd use a hairdryer or heatgun to gently melt the glue and remove it. It should work, but don't use it on very high heat or too close as you run the risk of burning the plastic instead and possibly wrap the card as well.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 29, 2023, 08:04:08 AM
Is it like a plastic film similar to the ones new screens have?

Yes, it's like a plastic film... It's not very visible in my pictures but it can be seen better in the picture posted above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471359.msg63204085#msg63204085) by MoparMiningLLC:

https://i.ibb.co/sCqCfLG/IMG-7996.jpg

If the glue is too strong I'd use a hairdryer or heatgun to gently melt the glue and remove it. It should work, but don't use it on very high heat or too close as you run the risk of burning the plastic instead.

That seems like a good suggestion and I thank you for it, but I'd rather wait for MixTum's or cygan's input on this, as I'd really not want to damage the card :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on November 29, 2023, 08:15:02 AM

What I noticed though is the fact that the card is protected with a transparent plastic which is supposed to be removed (at least, in case the owner wants to have access to the private key). But the protection seems impossible to be removed. I am afraid that if I'll try to scratch it with my fingernail or something sharp I may damage the card. Any idea about how to remove that transparent protection? (Perhaps cygan knows more about this technicality?)

the card is laminated on both sides and to get the private key it is sufficient to remove the hologram with e.g. a carpet knife or another sharp and pointed object. only the part around the hologram will be 'destroyed'. between the holo and the pk (as qr-code) there is a piece of paper to provide further protection

btw i'm glad you like the card and that it arrived without any problems :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 29, 2023, 08:26:52 AM
to get the private key it is sufficient to remove the hologram with e.g. a carpet knife or another sharp and pointed object. only the part around the hologram will be 'destroyed'. between the holo and the pk (as qr-code) there is a piece of paper to provide further protection

Ohhh, okay, okay! Thank you cygan! I am glad I did not insist on trying to un-stick the laminated part :)

the card is laminated on both sides
If the glue is too strong I'd use a hairdryer or heatgun to gently melt the glue and remove it. It should work

See, this is why I thought it's better to ask cygan :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Ultegra134 on November 29, 2023, 08:34:15 AM
See, this is why I thought it's better to ask cygan :)
Well, he's the boss, I'm merely dropping my two cents  ;D


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 29, 2023, 11:46:15 AM
It seems our cards are a success!  :)

The cards are definitely a success! I just received today "my card" and it looks incredible! It's so shiny that it was actually difficult to take a proper photo, as so much light was reflected by the card!

I said "my card" between quotation marks because, in fact, it is DYING_S0UL's card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.msg63109973#msg63109973) :) He won it at your third raffle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472945.0) but he was very nice and allowed me to have his prize, due to crypto ban from his country. He did not want to risk having the card confiscated (or face other unpleasant situations) and allowed me to receive the card instead. Thank you DYING_S0UL for your generosity! And thank you MixTum for these raffles!

Aww, Gazeta  :), it was my pleasure. It would have been a waste if you hadn't received it. Think of it as a small token of appreciation from me, since you know very well how my situation is with "CRYPTO".

You have been really helpful and friendly towards me since the day I got to know you. Thank you for everything. I hope that we keep seeing each other. I have learned a lot, I mean a lot because of you and this amazing forum. I am learning new things everyday and I am grateful for everything.

And if, by any chance, I win another card again, I plan to keep it this time, despite the "BAN" situation. hi hi hi  ;D.

Cheers,
DYING_S0UL





Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on November 29, 2023, 04:50:36 PM
GazetaBitcoin and Ultegra134 to make it easier for you to understand and also to show it visually, i have uploaded the following pic, which shows how the whole thing is set up and looks.
you can also see the foil that was removed over/with the hologram - the rest of the card has remained intact :)

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/29/NRrLq.png


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: MixTum.io on November 29, 2023, 05:33:12 PM
Two questions, you don't have any direct contact other than via email, telegram or any other chat?
What is happening with the Telegram bot, the link is on the site. There is no response.
All contact information is on our website.

Telegram bot is working again! Thank you!  :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 29, 2023, 08:12:18 PM
GazetaBitcoin and Ultegra134 to make it easier for you to understand and also to show it visually

Thank you cygan! Much appreciated!

I have a question though (please don't take it as criticism, as it's not criticism, but merely curiosity): isn't it possible that the lamination to fully-cover the card? As I shown in that picure from above, there is like 1mm distance between that film covering it and the margins of the card. This was also what made me think that the respective film should be removed :) Isn't it possible to have it covering the card entirely?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on November 30, 2023, 09:33:34 AM
Telegram bot is working again! Thank you!  :)

I checked it and it really works fast. Do I understand correctly, that I can mix coins even via Telegram bot? I mean, I don't really have to visit website for it, but do it only with the help of the bot? If it is so, that it is great, much more convenient, in my opinion.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on November 30, 2023, 09:44:10 AM
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I have a question though (please don't take it as criticism, as it's not criticism, but merely curiosity): isn't it possible that the lamination to fully-cover the card? As I shown in that picure from above, there is like 1mm distance between that film covering it and the margins of the card. This was also what made me think that the respective film should be removed :) Isn't it possible to have it covering the card entirely?

in no way do i take this as criticism. i am actually very happy that users/customers are thinking about our product and making suggestions/ideas for improvement
to come back to your question about the 'complete' lamination of the card, it is technically not possible for us to laminate the cards as a 'whole' - unfortunately our hardware does not allow us to do this


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 30, 2023, 10:57:31 AM
in no way do i take this as criticism. i am actually very happy that users/customers are thinking about our product and making suggestions/ideas for improvement

Glad to hear that :)

about the 'complete' lamination of the card, it is technically not possible for us to laminate the cards as a 'whole' - unfortunately our hardware does not allow us to do this

I understand... Thank you for the explanation, cygan. I guess cards would look even more nice if this was possible but since the hardware can not do it there's nothing to do about it...



Other than that, I just noticed that clearnet version of the website does not open. I tried to open it with a regular browser and with Tor and I always saw this:

https://i.ibb.co/Qkf6LKp/Untitled.png

After I checked the checkbox "Verify you are human" a short reload occurs then same page displays, asking to check that checkbox. Tor version of the website works fine though.



Do I understand correctly, that I can mix coins even via Telegram bot? I mean, I don't really have to visit website for it, but do it only with the help of the bot? If it is so, that it is great, much more convenient, in my opinion.

Where did you see that being stated? Oo


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on November 30, 2023, 11:11:16 AM
Other than that, I just noticed that clearnet version of the website does not open. I tried to open it with a regular browser and with Tor and I always saw this:

https://i.ibb.co/Qkf6LKp/Untitled.png

After I checked the checkbox "Verify you are human" a short reload occurs then same page displays, asking to check that checkbox. Tor version of the website works fine though.
This must be a problem on your end as I just checked and everything is working as usual.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: dwyane36 on November 30, 2023, 11:21:17 AM
Other than that, I just noticed that clearnet version of the website does not open. I tried to open it with a regular browser and with Tor and I always saw this:

https://i.ibb.co/Qkf6LKp/Untitled.png

After I checked the checkbox "Verify you are human" a short reload occurs then same page displays, asking to check that checkbox. Tor version of the website works fine though.
This must be a problem on your end as I just checked and everything is working as usual.

Confirmed. I also just checked it, and the mixtum site works fine in my browser (chrome).
GazetaBitcoin, you can try to clear your browser cache, use incognito mode, or use another browser. If that doesn't help, then you can try to access the site through another ISP. Maybe Cloudflare is blocking your IP or perceives your connection as insecure for some reason.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 30, 2023, 11:48:09 AM
GazetaBitcoin, you can try to clear your browser cache, use incognito mode, or use another browser.

I already did that... I stated above:

I tried to open it with a regular browser and with Tor

So even with Tor, if i try to access the clearnet version of the website I end up in the infinite loop of checking if I am human (perhaps I am not human? O0)

If that doesn't help, then you can try to access the site through another ISP.

This is weird... I just tried to open the website from my phone, using my mobile data package (which is provided by another ISP than the one providing my Internet connection for my PC) -- and the site opens Oo


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: Etranger on November 30, 2023, 02:16:00 PM
Do I understand correctly, that I can mix coins even via Telegram bot? I mean, I don't really have to visit website for it, but do it only with the help of the bot? If it is so, that it is great, much more convenient, in my opinion.

Where did you see that being stated? Oo

I did not see that being stated. I just saw the function of mixing my coins when I tried the Telegram bot. It asked me to enter the address, from which I would like to send coins to the mixer. That is why I wonder, if it is possible to use the mixer without visiting the site, but only via Telegram bot. I was asking, not stating


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on November 30, 2023, 07:06:53 PM
I just saw the function of mixing my coins when I tried the Telegram bot. It asked me to enter the address, from which I would like to send coins to the mixer. That is why I wonder, if it is possible to use the mixer without visiting the site, but only via Telegram bot.

Oh, I understand. Interesting! Now you made me curious as well :) Still, I would not use Telegram. I don't mean that I would not use Telegram possibility for mixing coins, but I would not use Telegram platform at all.
Anyway, perhaps MixTum can offer some light on this matter?


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: JanEmil on December 02, 2023, 10:28:30 AM
Thank you where much for the free loaded card. It will be included in my BTC collection.  8)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on December 02, 2023, 11:11:20 AM
@GazetaBitcoin and @JanEmil and other MixTum x Icarus card winners
these cards have a redundancy in the qr-code, i.e. if you accidentally scratch the private key a little, you can recover the funds. you can lose up to 30% of the qr-code without any problems :)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 02, 2023, 11:24:18 AM
these cards have a redundancy in the qr-code, i.e. if you accidentally scratch the private key a little, you can recover the funds. you can lose up to 30% of the qr-code without any problems :)

Dear cygan, can you elaborate a bit, please? I'm not sure I understand what you mean...


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on December 02, 2023, 11:36:43 AM
these cards have a redundancy in the qr-code, i.e. if you accidentally scratch the private key a little, you can recover the funds. you can lose up to 30% of the qr-code without any problems :)

Dear cygan, can you elaborate a bit, please? I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

if you were to damage the qr-code when removing the hologram with your sharp object, you still have the option of reading the private key for the BTC address given on the card from this qr-code and importing it into your own wallet
i hope you now know what i mean with redundancy ;)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 02, 2023, 12:04:02 PM
Oh, okay... If I'll ever go through this unfortunate incident I will remember what you wrote here :) Thanks!


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on December 26, 2023, 12:59:37 PM
The Clearnet version of the site is currently undergoing maintenance. Tor version works stably.


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: icopress on December 26, 2023, 02:30:36 PM
Now the Clearnet version also works correctly.  ;)


Title: Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️
Post by: cygan on December 29, 2023, 12:28:24 PM
@[banned mixer] @icopress is there already an idea/plan on how the remaining [banned mixer] x Icarus cards will be allocated?
will there still be free raffles but then only in the other forum or how will you deal with it from next year?