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Title: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on January 18, 2021, 10:45:00 PM
BETNOMI (https://www.betnomi.com/) has opened the door for us to have a new poker series ran on their site. They ran a couple freerolls for everyone to test out the platform and try different starting stacks to see which suited everyone, now it's time to get the series started.

Information

The series will feature 8 qualifier tournaments, a Grand Final and a Runners Up Final. There is an internal points structure, where you accumulate points to qualify for the Grand Final. If you are a regular player, you will automatically qualify for the Small Final(not open for qualifiers into the Grand Final).

We play Texas No Limit Hold'em, the starting stacks are 25000 chips, blind levels are 10 minutes and there is no late registration available.

Also considered opening a telegram group if you guys wanted to talk about this without it being on the forum. I'll leave that up to you.

The guarantee will also be changed as well. I am introducing a tier system. This will motivate you guys to bring in more players. The more average participants, the higher the finale guarantee will be. The average will take all the players who joined each tourney and divide it by 8. That will give you the average # of participants. For example 20 players join 5 games and 30 players join 3 games, that will give you an average of 23.75 players, meaning a 1250 euro finale game.

The tiers are as follows:

0-12 players average= $750  finale
13-24 players = $1250  finale
25+ = $1750  finale

Telegram
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/joinchat/D3zX7RyPmWmJEhuY8T92sw)

Entry fee and PW Info

The entry fee per tournament is 15 euros. The site allows BTC deposits but your currency is shown in USD.


There are no entry fees for the Grand Final and the Small Final.

The tournaments are password protected, you will get the passwords via Personal Message (PM) in this forum or on telegram. Just pm me.
Tourney Schedule

A total of 8 qualifier tournaments will be played inside 8 weeks, Sundays 5PM GMT. If possible, register as early as possible, since there is no late registration available.

Q#1: 1/24/2021
Q#2: 1/31/2021
Q#3: 2/07/2021
Q#4: 2/14/2021
Q#5: 2/21/2021
Q#6: 2/28/2021
Q#7: 3/07/2021
Q#8: 3/14/2021

How the points work

To determine who will qualify for the Grand Final, we have an internal point structure, where you get a number of points for each tournament, when you finished inside the Top 10.

10th = 1 Point
9th = 2 Points
8th = 3 Points
7th = 4 Points
6th = 5 Points
5th = 6 Points
4th = 7 Points
3rd = 8 Points
2nd = 9 Points
1st = 10 Points

If two or more players have the same amount of points after 8 tournaments, the average finishing position in all tournaments participated will be the tie-breaker.

Grand Final

The 9 players with the most points from our internal point system will be eligible to play the Grand Final, which will take place on "Undertermined". You will likely  have to register for this tournament with a password I will send to all the qualifiers and don't have to pay an entry fee. Betnomi is sponsoring $1000 for this tournament.

1st: 40.1% of Prize Pool
2nd: 39.9% of Prize Pool
3rd: 20% of Prize Pool

Not sure if I can change this. This looks to be their standard payout on 9 players. If nothing else winners can transfer $$$ between each other if you guys are set on 50% 30% 20%

The Little Final

Every player who joined at least 2 of the 8 qualifying tournaments, will be eligible to play in the Small Final, no matter how many points they accumulated. You will receive a password for this tournament and don't have to pay an entry fee. TBD: I prefer only players to participate in this who have not qualified for the Grand Finale.

The date  is TBA and the prize is $250.

Spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OOETV-EIj7o8UjwINUw3YjGOruqRrOB0D5QN36CJq9w/edit#gid=1983278553

You can follow and monitor all happenings in the spreadsheet:

If you have any questions or find any mistakes, feel free to mention it in the dedicated threads or PM "Undetermined"

Miscellaneous

I am adding a rule for the little losers tourney. You must compete in 4/8 games in order to qualify.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: iv4n on January 19, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
And here it is! :)

I am in! Last Sunday evening was "empty" without poker game! I thought to enter some random tournament, but after a quick search I gave up... the ones I found interesting (buy-in, reward...) had 25 levels late registration...it was I need to play hours and hours...

0-12 players average= $750  finale
13-24 players = $1250  finale
25+ = $1750  finale

I think this is fair! I wrote about this game whenever I can...  Kolloh is on Bitdice chat often, I told a few days ago that we will play another series, I will remind him about this when I see him... other than that "old" players knows about new series, I hope some of them will join us for one more round!



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on January 19, 2021, 05:40:55 PM
1st: 40.1% of Prize Pool
2nd: 39.9% of Prize Pool
3rd: 20% of Prize Pool

The last Grand Finale prize distribution was 50%, 30% and 20% 

I am in! Last Sunday evening was "empty" without poker game! I thought to enter some random tournament, but after a quick search I gave up... the ones I found interesting (buy-in, reward...) had 25 levels late registration...it was I need to play hours and hours...

Thats normal if you are a hardcore MTT grinder but if it is a bounty hunter tournament then there is an advantage with playing for hours before the registration ended. You could knock out few recreational players , build some good stack for a deep run and probably make it to the final table

0-12 players average= $750  finale
13-24 players = $1250  finale
25+ = $1750  finale

I think this is fair!

The previous series has 11.25 on average with 90 entries. We need 14 more atleast to get $1250 guaranteed prizepool for the Grand Finale. It would be great if we could have $1750 but yeah We'll settle with 15+ players on average for now



@johhnyUA : I hope you read this and will consider to join this series, buy in for the tournament is 15 euro or somewhere around $12.86  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on January 19, 2021, 08:15:04 PM
Sounds good. I'll set an alarm for Sunday as I'll be sleeping off a nightshift. Apart from that layout looks good, price point is down a bit maybe that'll help bring in a few stragglers. Get your PM's sent folks and let's get these spots filled. It would be nice to get to the top tier prizepool, but I'd be happy with the mid tier. If we can average what we had in the 2nd and 3rd series I believe we would hit it.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on January 22, 2021, 08:29:02 PM
I'm in. At least for few first games. Also asked the friend of mine (he played with us before on SwC poker).


But i have a question about buy in:
Entry fee and PW Info

The entry fee per tournament is 15 euros. The site allows BTC deposits but your currency is shown in USD.

And in PM this is what i've got:
The buy in is roughly 12.50 usd each week. The tourney shows everything in Euros but you'll see only a little over 12 dollars is deducted when you enter.

15 euros is around 16.5 dollars. Does it mean that Betnomi take for itself 4 dollars per player?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on January 22, 2021, 08:31:13 PM
What time is the game on Sunday in UK terms?

My game isn't until 10 pm so I may be able to play this.




Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 22, 2021, 08:37:52 PM
By the way, I have a great idea ... Cyrus started working hard on the Bitcointalk server.

Its goal is to turn the server into a large crypto community that will ultimately help popularize Bitcointalk and attract new users to the forum. And I am 100% sure that he will gladly create a separate section for us "poker players". #PokerSeries. There are about 300 people on the server, and I am sure that moving from Telegram to Discord will be an excellent solution.

https://i.imgur.com/P1h5eMW.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on January 22, 2021, 08:39:52 PM
I'm in. At least for few first games. Also asked the friend of mine (he played with us before on SwC poker).


But i have a question about buy in:
Entry fee and PW Info

The entry fee per tournament is 15 euros. The site allows BTC deposits but your currency is shown in USD.

And in PM this is what i've got:
The buy in is roughly 12.50 usd each week. The tourney shows everything in Euros but you'll see only a little over 12 dollars is deducted when you enter.

15 euros is around 16.5 dollars. Does it mean that Betnomi take for itself 4 dollars per player?
$12.62 is what will be deducted from your account each time you play I believe. When you check out the tourney it will show $15xx but it only charges what I said previously.

It's honestly confusing how they do it. All I know is it should show a little over $15 to enter but charges you in euros value which is roughly 12.62. Also pays out the same way.

What time is the game on Sunday in UK terms?

My game isn't until 10 pm so I may be able to play this.



Game should be around 5 pm for you. You can look in the lobby and see the start time.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on January 22, 2021, 08:58:51 PM
15 euros is around 16.5 dollars. Does it mean that Betnomi take for itself 4 dollars per player?

The buy in will show as 12.62 euro on your screen but your balance should be deducted exactly $12.62

I have just registered few minutes ago so I can confirm about this

https://i.imgur.com/P8u0Hrg.png

-snip-

That would be great and would help promote this series to others that never check the gambling section at all.



So Im the first one that have registered and Im commited to win this series after getting the runner up seat two series in a row. We might have alot of new players for this series, lets have some good time on the series  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on January 22, 2021, 09:28:02 PM
The buy in will show as 12.62 euro on your screen but your balance should be deducted exactly $12.62

I have just registered few minutes ago so I can confirm about this

https://i.imgur.com/P8u0Hrg.png

Oh thanks to you and yahoo for your answers. If it so, I'm in (i would be in even if it would costs 15 euros, but whatever).

The only problem that i will miss initial game (not for sure, but with big prob) because of some business in offline life at Sunday  :P
So for sure will see you at 31 of January


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: BigBoy89 on January 23, 2021, 01:17:27 AM
Can I play in BETNOMI through VPN? Do they want a KYC on withdrawal?

I would love to play in the series, but it seems I'm in a banned location: The owner of this website (www.betnomi.com) has banned the country

Thanks


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on January 23, 2021, 08:42:23 AM
Can I play in BETNOMI through VPN? Do they want a KYC on withdrawal?

I would love to play in the series, but it seems I'm in a banned location: The owner of this website (www.betnomi.com) has banned the country

Thanks

Yes I tested it through a VPN regards to playing at lease.

Apparently they aren't too KYC hot but you know if you win a lot you probably will have hoops to jump through.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on January 23, 2021, 09:17:52 AM
If you are VPN'ing. I suggest only playing Poker, and in reality if it's other than just a privacy concern I would only play the series. Just advice for avoiding any unpleasantness down the road.

You are required to input details under your profile before you can withdraw, but they aren't authenticated. In most situations I imagine playing strictly poker on their site wouldn't bring up any issues or flags for KYC, as compared to placing bets, unless it appeared to be a multi-accounting problem.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: figmentofmyass on January 23, 2021, 10:02:58 PM
If you are VPN'ing. I suggest only playing Poker, and in reality if it's other than just a privacy concern I would only play the series. Just advice for avoiding any unpleasantness down the road.

You are required to input details under your profile before you can withdraw, but they aren't authenticated. In most situations I imagine playing strictly poker on their site wouldn't bring up any issues or flags for KYC, as compared to placing bets, unless it appeared to be a multi-accounting problem.

+1. i'm connecting through VPN, and was able to withdraw a couple hundred bucks without any KYC authentication. i agree about steering clear of betting if you're concerned about getting KYC'd.

it's up in the air at the moment, but i'm gonna try to make tomorrow's game. i'm not sure i'll be a contender in the series given my current schedule but i should definitely make a few games at least.

thanks to @yahoo and @betnomi for putting this together!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: BigBoy89 on January 24, 2021, 03:09:35 AM
Can I play in BETNOMI through VPN? Do they want a KYC on withdrawal?

I would love to play in the series, but it seems I'm in a banned location: The owner of this website (www.betnomi.com) has banned the country

Thanks

Yes I tested it through a VPN regards to playing at lease.

Apparently they aren't too KYC hot but you know if you win a lot you probably will have hoops to jump through.

Thank you @Globb0 and the rest for the VPN answers.

I've managed to register through VPN, but then I found out that the poker client is only Windows/Mac OS, without a Web based version. For some other reason, my VPN is browser only, so that I will skip the series.

Without more off-topic, good luck all!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 24, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
The only problem that i will miss initial game (not for sure, but with big prob) because of some business in offline life at Sunday  :P
I also had such thoughts ... I was planning to get some rest this Sunday. But all the same, I decided that it was not worth giving @arallmuus a head start, especially considering how seriously he was determined to win this series.

By the way, I have a great idea ... Cyrus started working hard on the Bitcointalk server.

Its goal is to turn the server into a large crypto community that will ultimately help popularize Bitcointalk and attract new users to the forum. And I am 100% sure that he will gladly create a separate section for us "poker players". #PokerSeries. There are about 300 people on the server, and I am sure that moving from Telegram to Discord will be an excellent solution.
People, who have a better idea?

It seems to me that from the obvious advantages, the move from Telegram to Discord will give us an impulse in the form of an influx of new players.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on January 24, 2021, 03:37:21 PM
I've managed to register through VPN, but then I found out that the poker client is only Windows/Mac OS, without a Web based version.

There is a browser based poker client . You dont have to download anything at all, click on the play now button if you are on the poker page, it will direct you to the browser client

it was not worth giving @arallmuus a head start, especially considering how seriously he was determined to win this series.

Dang, I will try my best but the field is getting harder now compared with the previous series so I might not even make it to the top 3 depending on how bad my run is  :P

the move from Telegram to Discord will give us an impulse in the form of an influx of new players.

Instead of moving to discord as some probably dont use discord , a sub channel would be okay for now which consist of all information related to this poker series as well as the thread's link in it so those that are interested on the poker game could just head straight here through the link.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: webtricks on January 24, 2021, 07:10:36 PM
Reading the buzz, I thought many would join but it turned out to be the tournament with lowest attendance among all series. Pretty comfortable win for me, for most of the part I got favorable hands. Knocked out 5 out of 6 players and got 10 points (which I think would be more than necessary considering the participation as we go). It was funny kicking both @arallmuus and @Jayce with A6 within the span of few hands. :D

By the way, is it just me or you guys also feel bad folding the hands like the one below? Even though I won but still can't get over the fact that I folded the following hand, lol:

https://i.ibb.co/48K1q11/pooker.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Trofo on January 24, 2021, 08:25:42 PM
By the way, is it just me or you guys also feel bad folding the hands like the one below? Even though I won but still can't get over the fact that I folded the following hand, lol:

https://i.ibb.co/48K1q11/pooker.png
I almost never look at my cards after folding them just so that I don't enter that mindset where you start feeling bad for folding and then consequently calling shit hands.

So it was just 7 of you guys tonight or? Really low attendance. I was thinking on joining but couldn't since my ISP decided to have some work done on their 3G/4G towers during Sunday and I had shitty connection all day.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on January 24, 2021, 08:44:30 PM
Join my game in  an hour on SWC poker if you still need some challenge!

You might be able to represent the bitcointalk team!


https://i.imgur.com/zqrBeqZ.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: jayce on January 24, 2021, 09:18:20 PM
It was funny kicking both @arallmuus and @Jayce with A6 within the span of few hands. :D

You were so damn lucky  >:(


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on January 24, 2021, 09:24:37 PM
Reading the buzz, I thought many would join but it turned out to be the tournament with lowest attendance among all series. Pretty comfortable win for me, for most of the part I got favorable hands. Knocked out 5 out of 6 players and got 10 points (which I think would be more than necessary considering the participation as we go).

Yeah you ran like a god ! I almost knocked you out with my pocket 9 and another 9 show up on the river making a straight for you . That was the moment that I know you are running like a god lol

It was funny kicking both @arallmuus and @Jayce with A6 within the span of few hands. :D

iirc you win almost every flip aside from that 1 flip where I had KK. That was great though

By the way, is it just me or you guys also feel bad folding the hands like the one below? Even though I won but still can't get over the fact that I folded the following hand, lol:

Not at all because I wouldnt ever play 39 off in any position. Unless I fold pocket 9 for some reason and two other 9 show up on the board then that would leave a disgusting taste on my mouth


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on January 25, 2021, 04:35:11 AM
Interested in joining this.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on January 25, 2021, 07:58:48 AM
Glad to hear it. Next tournament is a week from now. Yahoo will hook us up with Passwords in the Telegram group or through PM... something as soon the Tournament is launched. Just get your account set up and funded and you're good to go.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on January 25, 2021, 09:36:34 AM
Yesterday I wasn't as much dissappointed by my result as by the number of participants, 7. I was upset by the fact from the very beginning, and couldn't play good in that state.

Here's how I finished:

https://i.imgur.com/4zFFgwi.png

After preflop raise by webtricks, I went all-in with my pocket Jacks, and lost the showdown to webtricks' AK suited

https://i.imgur.com/W6DuheB.png

which wasn't bad luck, imo, because in my book AK suited is slightly better than JJ.

But again I wasn't disappointed by the game itself. After all, I finished in the bottom 3 with @iv4n and @icopress. I was in a good company! :)

GG, everyone.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 25, 2021, 06:16:38 PM
By the way, is it just me or you guys also feel bad folding the hands like the one below? Even though I won but still can't get over the fact that I folded the following hand, lol:
I usually don't regret fold, but in this particular case, I could have been biting my elbows if I was in the big blind and folded, (if the raise was no larger than the blind).

webtricks, by the way, how are things going with early bets? The only catch is how to calculate the rates correctly. I am not an expert in coefficients calculation, but as far as I understand, we should first consider the probability of a certain player hitting the final table, (and only then can the probability of the outcome of the series be calculated). The question is how to correctly summarize these coefficients and make allowances for new players who will join the upcoming games.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on January 27, 2021, 02:51:32 PM
My Wednesday!!
We are on the road to BTTPS, last week I made a deposit at about + / - $ 35k (BTC price) and due to the late fee it reached + $ 31K so which I have about 10.57 euros.

Well I had ... in euros !! nice, the system is registering $ 12.87 on the website, but I am seeing that it is also registering in dollars in the poker room, which means that they fixed the alternate system from euros to dollars, which had brought confusion for some but that in the reality was just a simple conversion.

Well then there it is, those who wanted to see their balance in dollars, it is fix.

I'm seeing some freerolls out there with no entry conditions for tournament tickets ... this can be a way for those who don't want to take direct entry to the BPS or BTTPS. (very interesting prize pool)

There are also some interesting ones for only $ 0.24.

Start to growing your bankroll but it is best to start practicing at a low buyin or even freeroll.

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I do not know if they agree that someone who is encouraged by those ways and can bring a question here or can share their great plays in relation to at least the commented tournaments. I know that a new thread is the most appropriate but in the idea to relate those tournaments as an alternative way to reach the objective of the OP is the idea.

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Edit:
please! I almost forgot, congratulations to the 300 on Sunday, that is to those who played on Sunday ... true Spartans. :)
I don't think I will play this Sunday but I will return in February, it is worth saying spokertans !! cheer up



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 27, 2021, 09:00:19 PM
My Wednesday!!
We are on the road to BTTPS, last week I made a deposit at about + / - $ 35k (BTC price) and due to the late fee it reached + $ 31K so which I have about 10.57 euros.
If anything, when you decide, do not hesitate to write in a PM ... I will send you the missing amount, by internal transfer.

I'm seeing some freerolls out there with no entry conditions for tournament tickets ... this can be a way for those who don't want to take direct entry to the BPS or BTTPS. (very interesting prize pool)
Not everything is as easy as it seems ... To get to the main tournament you need to win 3-4 satellites, although getting a ticket playing in the freeroll is quite easy. And then it's harder ... if you expect to get into the main tournament, you should plan your time and be patient, since you will have to spend at least 8-14 hours playing the game. If the main event and its satellites take place on the same day.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on January 28, 2021, 03:45:43 PM
...//...:

@icopress ty , alike.
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...//...:
Well we are going to leave a little more light on the subject, but all the information is available at betnomi.

In my case, I am learning to know more about what exists, because until now I was only pointing directly to the BPS tournament.

The first freeroll I discovered is the one that allows access to The Clash:
Step 1: Buy-in: Freeroll
Prize places: 1 to 6, Ticket for  Step 2.

Step 2: Buy-in: $ 2.43 + $ 0.24 ($ 2.67) or Ticket won in step1.
Prize places: 1 to 5, Ticket with a value of $ 26.68 that covers The Clash tournament

You can start with Step 1 then Step 2 and opt for the TM with a value of $ 26.68
If you want to save step1 pay $ 2.67.

There is a third step to access this tournament or win the TM but it is by purchase.
Step3: Buyin of $ 4.84
Offers 7 places with TM for a value of $ 26.68 you can use it for The Clash or TM

The Clash direct buy-in: $ 26.68 with a $ 1820 GTD prize.

________
Other roads to get to the TM "Daily Main" via freeroll among others.

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Important considerations:
These tournaments are with Rebuy + Addon.
The above makes the variance high, that is, waiting for a call with 72 is not strange.
If you decide to play the main tournaments, the first level of blinds is 50 minutes.
Finally connect on Sunday to the BTTPS  8)




In my case I decided to play a MTT buy-in: $ 0.6 one with a $ 60 GTD and hit first place with a $ 27 prize. I made a $ 1.21 add-on with no RR so the profit is $ 25.2 .

You can see the details of the tournament:
https://i.imgur.com/nWvXPiT.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 29, 2021, 01:14:36 AM
The first freeroll I discovered is the one that allows access to The Clash:
In general, everything is correct, below you can see my strategy for such mini tournaments. At the moment, I try not to waste time on tournaments with a small prize pool, as it is necessary to spend the same amount of time on such games as if the third level buy-in was $ 65/140. Well, of course, with an increase in buy-in, the structure of the tournament also changes, and the higher the buy-in, the longer the late registration lasts, etc. (25 level/10m/TB90sec).

In tournaments of this type, I stick to the strategy of calling all-in at the beginning of the game (then I leave the game for 30-40 minutes) and go back to the beginning of the add-on, (add-on allows you to feel more confident at a later stage). Thus, a successful call early in the game allows me to wait out the aggressive period of the game. Because if I do not take a break, I will not have the strength for the final tournament, (a series of tournaments which, in addition to the final, includes 3-4 more satellites).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on January 29, 2021, 03:41:26 AM
...//...:
+1

Actually the information aims more than reaching  us (regular players of the series) is for those who want to get into the series in some way.

So far it is the first tournament that I play except for some other where I register out there in the past days that I play apart from the series.

I am not so regular  player anymore but , on the contrary, the little that I play I enjoy it a lot, there is a moment in the life of the poker player where a level of enjoyment is reached that has more to do with the moments in which you play than in the prize itself.

It's not about playing poker, it's about playing poker with the forum community.

BtW there is game (!?)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 29, 2021, 05:39:51 PM
Actually the information aims more than reaching  us (regular players of the series) is for those who want to get into the series in some way .......
It's not about playing poker, it's about playing poker with the forum community.
famososMuertos, If you are talking about freerolls and their satellites as a means of earning money to pay for the buy-in in a BPS tournament, then I think 15 dollars is not such a big amount. I even suggested several times to my forum friends to join on the terms that I would cover the costs of the first game, but apparently it's not just about money.

Community spirit is the only reason I try not to miss Sunday games. Although some may mistakenly think that BPS members pay weekly buy-in just because of the attractive prize pool, (anyone who delves into this will understand that for the amount of BPS buy-in, you can easily get tickets to tournaments whose prize pool is several times larger than the Grand Final fund).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on January 29, 2021, 07:51:48 PM
...//...:


Yeah , there is a total disconnect in the fact  you mention, it seems it is not about money.

Anyway, I think that drop by drop will fill the space of passionate about the game of poker, I think that with about 20 to 40 players we would have a more stable field for when due to individual circumstances, do not have Sundays with such low attendance.

Although perhaps it was the reality in the  season 1, in this version with betnomi,  the final field should have been 18 players. (9+4)

In any case, the BPS are in their first year, and what is really important is that the names of the winners of these series do not continue to be repeated. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on January 29, 2021, 10:31:14 PM
Ok, this Sunday i will be with you for sure. I've caught some disease so anything outside my house will not interfere my game  ;D
And you should be happy, because i'm ill and fish, so this will be like an easy money for some of your (i hope not). Will see you tomorrow! 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on January 31, 2021, 03:11:36 PM
Hello, guys! :)

Please send the pw for today's game via DM.

Ty. :)

GL at the tables!

EDIT:

Received the pw. Thanks webtricks! :)

Couldn't register as well. It's 70 minutes left. Hope it'll be fixed soon.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: webtricks on January 31, 2021, 03:24:09 PM
Mmm!! Things are not looking right today. I can't register for the tournament, 'Register' button is frozen and not working. Maybe that's the reason only 2 people registered so far. Let me talk to Betnomi support in a meanwhile. Let's hope it will be fixed, still around 100 minutes left.



Hello, guys! :)

Please send the pw for today's game via DM.

Ty. :)

GL at the tables!

Password sent!



EDIT: Yeah, it's a confirmed issue. :(

https://i.imgur.com/xqbxQaV.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on January 31, 2021, 03:48:32 PM
Mmm!! Things are not looking right today. I can't register for the tournament, 'Register' button is frozen and not working.

EDIT: Yeah, it's a confirmed issue. :(

So our only option now is to wait until they fix it. An hour and 15 minutes to go. Only Iv4n and his godfather registered so far

Ok, this Sunday i will be with you for sure. I've caught some disease so anything outside my house will not interfere my game  ;D

I hope you make it to the game today although we are having issue with registration right now but it is probably will be fixed before the game start.

And you should be happy, because i'm ill and fish, so this will be like an easy money for some of your (i hope not). Will see you tomorrow! 

Well alot of us learn while we play. IIRC only Iv4n , yahoo, steamtyme , FOMA, obaming and efialtis were considered to be good back in the day and others were pretty much fish newbie when it comes to poker  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 31, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
I do not know what the problem is, but I can't connect. The "Register" button just doesn't work. I checked it in other tournaments, the result is the same. I am waiting for a response from support ....

EDIT: I see webtricks has the same problem.

EDIT 2: What day will we postpone the game? Since I think the problem will not be solved within an hour.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on January 31, 2021, 04:33:32 PM
I messaged them in chat through telegram. No eta in when the issue will be sorted. I also have no idea if the tournament will run as is with 2 registered. Ideally they cancel this and we just pick up next week for tournament #2


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on January 31, 2021, 04:58:42 PM
=

Edit:1
I am trying to register for another tournament and the same issue happens.


Edit:2
https://i.imgur.com/sUNjcL7.jpg



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on January 31, 2021, 05:01:28 PM
I messaged them in chat through telegram. No eta in when the issue will be sorted. I also have no idea if the tournament will run as is with 2 registered. Ideally they cancel this and we just pick up next week for tournament #2

I agree. Let's do it this way.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: webtricks on January 31, 2021, 06:15:45 PM
Let's see when Betnomi would be able to solve the issue. We can have #2 tournament on next Sunday (like Steamtyme suggesting).

As we are not having poker today, enjoy your Sunday with a nice movie and beer guys. :D


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on January 31, 2021, 07:49:35 PM
Let's see when Betnomi would be able to solve the issue. We can have #2 tournament on next Sunday (like Steamtyme suggesting).
It looks like the problem is solved ... But no matter how it was, we missed this game.

Maybe, just maybe.... we can play this game in the middle of the week? Like on Thursday, or Wednesday....? And on Sunday to play #3? What you all think about that?
Many people here have work on weekdays, and don't forget about family. Moreover, the shift of the game for one weekend in no way will affect the entire series, on the contrary, we will have more time to tell about this get-together.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: iv4n on January 31, 2021, 08:14:09 PM
Well what else we can do than wait for next week and hope that things will be better...

I am trying to register for another tournament and the same issue happens.

I tried as well... I wanted to play poker this evening! I quit playing on SwC, maybe I need to reactivate for cases like this one is!

Let's see when Betnomi would be able to solve the issue. We can have #2 tournament on next Sunday (like Steamtyme suggesting).

As we are not having poker today, enjoy your Sunday with a nice movie and beer guys. :D

Well some of us enjoy with wine! And we spin some slots when we can't play poker!

It looks like the problem is solved ...

A bit too late for all of us... I registered yesterday, and my godfather, everything was fine... looks like they stumbled on some problems this evening, and they didn't have enough time to fix it!

Maybe, just maybe.... we can play this game in the middle of the week? Like on Thursday, or Wednesday....? And on Sunday to play #3? What you all think about that?
 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on January 31, 2021, 10:09:54 PM
Sorry guys, looks like Betnomi had technical issues today and we will run game 2 next week. My apologies for not posting sooner, Sundays are busy for me.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: MrcMrc on February 01, 2021, 10:41:45 AM
Sorry guys, looks like Betnomi had technical issues today and we will run game 2 next week. My apologies for not posting sooner, Sundays are busy for me.
OK we will keep following up hope to see the technical issue fixed as soon as possible so we can get back to the series again.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 06, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
New game is posted, btc2021s3 is the pw. Good luck to all who play tomorrow


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 07, 2021, 02:38:28 PM
New game is posted, btc2021s3 is the pw. Good luck to all who play tomorrow
I'll be in today. Looks like 6 of you in currently. Just waiting on my deposit.
Glad that you are with us today ... I wonder if there will be a full table today? Will hope ... [People, notify your friends].


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 07, 2021, 04:30:10 PM
I wonder if there will be a full table today? Will hope ... [People, notify your friends].
I'll be in today. Looks like 6 of you in currently. Just waiting on my deposit.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on February 07, 2021, 04:57:57 PM
Good luck guys.

I finally got my SWC home game moved a bit earlier too.

Details are here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286888.msg56292187#msg56292187

Now at 2pm EST and 7PM UK maybe you guys can get in easier now.

Cheers


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 07, 2021, 05:12:27 PM
Happy Sunday afternoon / evening / early morning wherever you decide to play poker.

I think betnomi should ask for the password in the registry, that way we can have observers ... and maybe one day they will have us on Twitch.tv/Globb0

GG icopress
JJ vs AK
JJ vs KK


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 07, 2021, 08:28:46 PM
Good game everyone. It was a really intense match there and I dont think I could have made it to the top 3 if it wasnt for Trayvon that knocked Yahoo out and Steamtyme that won alot of chips from Yahoo on the previous hand. It was an intense HU against Trayvon, lots of unexpected hands and sizing but made my way through it

Too bad we didnt make it to atleast one full table for the second round. Missing few players today, Webtricks, Teethow, Iv4n and his godfather. Lets hope each of you will make it next week  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 07, 2021, 11:03:28 PM
Too bad we didnt make it to atleast one full table for the second round. Missing few players today, Webtricks, Teethow, Iv4n and his godfather. Lets hope each of you will make it next week  :)
Each of us only needs to invite one person ... If we do this, there will be many of us. I will set a personal example, and I hope I will have +1 by Sunday's game.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: STT on February 08, 2021, 02:29:01 AM
Observers is a good idea, I'm far more likely to get people joining if they can look first.

Quote
bad folding the hands like the one below

4x 9 with only 4 players is a freak occurrence, you can disregard it as anything to worry about because you may never see it again.   I usually hope for random luck but I dont think its a good strategy.   My last hand was on the flop Queen, King, 10 , 9, J.   No skill win  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 08, 2021, 10:11:46 AM
After coupla re-raises both, Yahoo and I, went all-in pre-flop, but my pocket Kings were challenged by pocket Aces.

https://i.imgur.com/r2MtFro.png

Seeing four clubs, for a second I was celebrating victory in my head... But, nope, I didn't notice those two 5s, and in the end my flush wasn't good enough to beat Yahoo's Full House. What can I say? Nice hand! :)

Good game everyone.

Congrats on the win, arallmuus/TikTokLyfe!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on February 08, 2021, 12:48:47 PM
heh I don't know how many pocket aces I met with ks and qs this week it feels like loads.

Arralmus is a tough cookie.  :)

Sorry I had tech issues this week so I couldn't really get thins running.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 08, 2021, 10:35:31 PM
Seeing four clubs, for a second I was celebrating victory in my head... But, nope, I didn't notice those two 5s, and in the end my flush wasn't good enough to beat Yahoo's Full House. What can I say? Nice hand! :)
I join in the congratulations! [arallmuus/TikTokLyfe] I also have this feeling from time to time, but if I lost to pocket aces I think I would not be upset. After all, you are not FmBet to beat an opponent with a smaller pocket pair, (I don't see FmBet's weekly infographic).  ???


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 09, 2021, 05:43:36 AM
...//....:

As we are in the week of <3  better this week a video with some songs  :D

8.- Nothing Breaks Like a Heart/Miley Cyrus.

7.- Just Like Heaven/The Cure

6.- What Is Love/Haddaway

5.- Goodbyes/Post Malone

4.- Come As You Are/Nirvana

3.- Another Night/Real McCoy   

2.- Titanic - My Heart Will Go On/Celine Dion

1.- Stairway to Heaven Live/Led Zeppelin

Without a specific hierarchical order, just a playlist.
https://youtu.be/7Lavheae-us
______________
In another order of ideas:
JJ vs KK (*) 0:0
AA Vs KK     0:40
QT Vs AQ     1:16
KT Vs A2 (*)2:43
AK Vs AA     3:15
? Vs ? (*)    5:08
9J Vs QTs    5:54


(*)things that happen because of third parties, and my mistakes :-[
 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on February 09, 2021, 08:57:24 AM
Seeing four clubs, for a second I was celebrating victory in my head... But, nope, I didn't notice those two 5s, and in the end my flush wasn't good enough to beat Yahoo's Full House. What can I say? Nice hand! :)


More funny it happens to me in reverse.

Sometimes I wonder why am I still in? I have to go to the history and work it out.   :)

I got my first ever royal flush this week.    8)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 09, 2021, 02:02:10 PM
Seeing four clubs, for a second I was celebrating victory in my head... But, nope, I didn't notice those two 5s, and in the end my flush wasn't good enough to beat Yahoo's Full House. What can I say? Nice hand! :)
I join in the congratulations! [arallmuus/TikTokLyfe] I also have this feeling from time to time, but if I lost to pocket aces I think I would not be upset. After all, you are not FmBet to beat an opponent with a smaller pocket pair, (I don't see FmBet's weekly infographic).  ???


I wasn't upset either. :) After seeing all the cards I knew I would lose under any scenario. Say, we weren't all-in from the start, wouldn't I call all-in when I rivered a flush, Ace high, with King in my pocket? Of course I would. I only get upset when I see, retrospectively, that I could play my hand better. In that particular case, there was nothing I could do better.

Seeing four clubs, for a second I was celebrating victory in my head... But, nope, I didn't notice those two 5s, and in the end my flush wasn't good enough to beat Yahoo's Full House. What can I say? Nice hand! :)


More funny it happens to me in reverse.

Sometimes I wonder why am I still in? I have to go to the history and work it out.   :)

I got my first ever royal flush this week.   8)

Congrats on that, mate! :)

Hope to see you at the tables next Sunday.

Will you be covering the game on your Twitch channel? I miss those broadcasts of yours. Bitcointalk Poker Series doesn't feel whole without them.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 10, 2021, 11:22:19 PM
I wasn't upset either. :) After seeing all the cards I knew I would lose under any scenario. Say, we weren't all-in from the start, wouldn't I call all-in when I rivered a flush, Ace high, with King in my pocket? Of course I would. I only get upset when I see, retrospectively, that I could play my hand better. In that particular case, there was nothing I could do better.
I agree about the "retrospective"... but also, for example, I know ahead of time that giving away can upset me, and yet I still make a mistake. Namely, before the flop, I subconsciously know that I will not defend some combinations of cards if the flop does not work, and because of this, I constantly lose a pretty decent amount of chips.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 11, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
I wasn't upset either. :) After seeing all the cards I knew I would lose under any scenario. Say, we weren't all-in from the start, wouldn't I call all-in when I rivered a flush, Ace high, with King in my pocket? Of course I would. I only get upset when I see, retrospectively, that I could play my hand better. In that particular case, there was nothing I could do better.
I agree about the "retrospective"... but also, for example, I know ahead of time that giving away can upset me, and yet I still make a mistake. Namely, before the flop, I subconsciously know that I will not defend some combinations of cards if the flop does not work, and because of this, I constantly lose a pretty decent amount of chips.

I know what you are talking about because this is how I play too. I call it a "new school", as opposed to Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey, Tom Dwan and the likes, who are "old school".

The key here is to not be upset by the fact that you are constantly losing chips, descending further down in the leaderboard. It's not that easy to stay calm, when you see those bluffers taking the top positions, while you are fluctuating somewhere close to the bottom. ... Well, You know as well as I do, that this strategy pays off in the end more often than not. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 12, 2021, 05:04:12 AM
This weeks tourney is up, pw is btc2021s3333 good luck


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: betnomi on February 12, 2021, 07:43:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WfzXfbt.jpg (https://www.betnomi.com/50-poker-rakeback)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 12, 2021, 04:00:45 PM





Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 12, 2021, 06:24:34 PM
Nice man, really like the extra effort you put in on these images for the series.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 14, 2021, 01:09:56 AM
...//...:
Thank you!!

By the way, reviewing those numbers I could realize that TrayvonKang is the player who has made the most second places, a record of this series 1-2 with benomi.






Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 14, 2021, 04:00:53 PM
Although today is Valentine's Day, I think I can devote a few hours to poker. There is a small problem ... my transfer will be credited within 25 blocks, so there is a good chance that I will miss this game (if within an hour no one helps me with the internal transfer of funds to Betnomi).

In case someone reads this within an hour, my username is icopress/usd             


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 14, 2021, 04:28:17 PM
Although today is Valentine's Day, I think I can devote a few hours to poker. There is a small problem ... my transfer will be credited within 25 blocks, so there is a good chance that I will miss this game (if within an hour no one helps me with the internal transfer of funds to Betnomi).

In case someone reads this within an hour, my username is icopress/usd            

Sent you $15, feel free to transfer it back to me after you received your deposits. My username is arallmuus

Goodluck on the table, so far there are only 4 people that have registered including me and it will be 5 if you have registered. Lets hope we can get atleast 9 people for today, it is always great to be able to play in one full table.

Password for the tournament is btc2021s3333


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 14, 2021, 04:57:24 PM
Goodluck on the table, so far there are only 4 people that have registered including me and it will be 5 if you have registered. Lets hope we can get atleast 9 people for today, it is always great to be able to play in one full table.
Surprisingly, more people joined today than usual, I was tenth! Good luck to everyone today


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 14, 2021, 06:14:37 PM
icopress that good  you join to playing cupid did his thing, sorry sorry arallmuus.

Field: 10
Ivan strangely 10
We have a new nickname "CCwatcher420"

Zqueezz from TiktokLyfe right now ... we already have + 1 hour of play.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 14, 2021, 07:31:44 PM
Either Steamtyme is luckier than usual today, or it's time for me to stop pushing all-in with pocket kings. Oddly enough, I systematically lose with this card ... Anyway, all have a good evening  :-*

https://i.imgur.com/tlGbNhv.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 14, 2021, 09:32:09 PM
Zqueezz from TiktokLyfe right now ... we already have + 1 hour of play.

I should have folded that A9s hand, I was kinda tilted because I keep on folding for an hour ( probably close to 45 minutes or so ). I keep on getting those silly hands such as 47o on early position , 2Jo early position as well ( alot more and I cant remember most of it lol ) and when I had A9s, I thought I would fold this hand from early position shove but not from BTN shove so yeah I called that

I was having some bad luck streak for all my flips this week so yeah I wasnt really surprised when I lose lol

Oddly enough, I systematically lose with this card ... Anyway, all have a good evening  :-*

IIRC you lose to Yahoo last week with KK as well. I cant remember it, either you or Betwrong lose the flip with KK



Good game guys, it was a fun day as usual and 10 people today including a new player CCWatcher  :). I'll win the next one  :P


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on February 15, 2021, 01:03:31 AM
We have a new nickname "CCwatcher420"

Not that new. I was involved on Series #1 when it was on SwC. Good stuff.

A few takeaways from today's session:

1. The client looks like coinpoker's but with better themes. For me this is not a problem.
2. I have had some problems with the site. I was accused of fabricating a failed deposit story. However, this has not impacted me being able to load up cash.
3. Different cryptos are good for deposits. I wish bovada was like this.
4. Tourney was very fun and welcoming. Will definitely be back.

Anyways, I did see nobody covered it on twitch. Maybe we need an active runner to do this.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 15, 2021, 11:19:21 AM
With more players the game is better, don't you guys think?

TrayvonKang, in case you were wondering, I rivered a flush back then

https://i.imgur.com/ZwYCrRQ.png

So, I'm sure it was a good fold on your part.

iv4n played very aggressively(from my point of view) and finished 10th. Slow down, mate, we want to see more of you at the tables. :)

And this is how I lost almost all my chips to CCwatcher420

https://i.imgur.com/HEg07Om.png

Nice hand! Btw, I remember you playing with us on Series #1. Welcome back! :)

GG, everyone.

Can't wait for the new pic from @famososMuertos.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 15, 2021, 07:10:32 PM
Anyways, I did see nobody covered it on twitch. Maybe we need an active runner to do this.

Globb0 used to do this for the previous series but it seems he cant play on Betnomi without VPN

TrayvonKang, in case you were wondering, I rivered a flush back then

https://i.imgur.com/ZwYCrRQ.png

That was some aggresive all in with 5 5 8 4 8 Board. Trayvon was in BB position he could have 8 or 5 on his hand and a Full House would win over flushes. I would personally call in this wet connecting board simply because Trayvon is in BB and Trayvon might still have the AX of heart combination for better flush though

Glad that this one paid off in your favour


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on February 16, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
Thanks for the mention friend.

I'm experiencing the usual (for me) tech issues. I booked the wrong kind of steam when I ordered the hardware. :)


Anyway I hope change is close and then we will see. I did enjoy to cover these games.


With that hand you show, soon as 2 fives shows is a big full house risk. By the 4 there are also 2 flush draws.

Im always weary of the better flush if mine isn't that great!

I mean there is always the pocket pair sleeper to deal with occasionally.

Dont beat yourself up....





Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 17, 2021, 12:27:53 PM
TrayvonKang, in case you were wondering, I rivered a flush back then

https://i.imgur.com/ZwYCrRQ.png

That was some aggresive all in with 5 5 8 4 8 Board. Trayvon was in BB position he could have 8 or 5 on his hand and a Full House would win over flushes. I would personally call in this wet connecting board simply because Trayvon is in BB and Trayvon might still have the AX of heart combination for better flush though

Glad that this one paid off in your favour

Well, I do try to play cautiously, but in that case I decided to make an impression that I had an 8 or 5, just in case Trayvon had a better flush. But I'm pretty sure of that he hadn't any. I think with Ace or King high flush he would call. Right, @TrayvonKang? :) So, it was a semi bluff on my part, and most likely a bold bluff from him.(Hope to hear from TrayvonKang about what hand he actually had).

~ I did enjoy to cover these games.~

We did too. Really, it was half of the fun. Please get back to it as soon as you can. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 17, 2021, 04:07:08 PM
-snip-

Well, I do try to play cautiously, but in that case I decided to make an impression that I had an 8 or 5, just in case Trayvon had a better flush. But I'm pretty sure of that he hadn't any. I think with Ace or King high flush he would call. Right, @TrayvonKang? :) So, it was a semi bluff on my part, and most likely a bold bluff from him.(Hope to hear from TrayvonKang about what hand he actually had).

Yeah you could still have 8 or 5 but it is less likely for someone to open with 8 or 5 on that position and more likely for someone in BB position to have 8 or 5. Probably someone would open with A5 but Full 5s lose to Full 8s so I still think that it is a risky all in but it is all good because it works in your favour  and im sure Trayvon had nothing in that hand ( probably 4X or A high )

The raise on the river was most likely blocker bet to show that he had something so the other player would most likely call instead of raise in that position


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 18, 2021, 12:31:30 AM
IIRC you lose to Yahoo last week with KK as well. I cant remember it, either you or Betwrong lose the flip with KK
Seeing such a hand, you forget about mathematics, you forget about everything. The first thought that comes to you ... "what is the probability that someone has a pair of aces?" Subconsciously, I do not want to consider any cards as competitors to my pocket kings (preflop), that's the result. Btway, it's a pity we can't see the full statistics ... I would like to know the percentage of wins by positions, I think the button's position would be the undisputed leader.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 18, 2021, 06:51:41 AM

TrayvonKang, continues on his streak of second places ...ITM
TikTokLyfe: he doesn't bother anyone on the leaderboard and keeps his second place.
Steamtyme:  hit 10 points jump from position 7 to top 3, (congratulations) first place.
noobhere, Betwrong, webtricks and icopress, they didn't bother each other and
they simply moved one position. Fmbet:mmhh!!
CCwatcher420 "ITM".
...//...:
It's true, then first time in the BPS #2/betnomi :)
rak3y0urchips remains in the top10. The closing of the leaderboard is held by Iv4n with 5 points.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 18, 2021, 06:45:03 PM
Seeing such a hand, you forget about mathematics, you forget about everything. The first thought that comes to you ... "what is the probability that someone has a pair of aces?"

Yeah Pocket Kings is a really strong hand until you see an Ace on the board but Its rare to run an all in preflop with KK against AA so yeah as long as there is no Ace on board then its is a great hand

Btway, it's a pity we can't see the full statistics ... I would like to know the percentage of wins by positions, I think the button's position would be the undisputed leader.

I think it would be UTG or UTG + 1, we have alot of good open bet on the early position but it is good that no such statistic exists as it might give some edge to some players to determine what to do next in case if someone open from a position with high win percentage.

High win percentage on X position actually shows that most player would be opening really wide on that position.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: mathematics_lover on February 18, 2021, 09:59:23 PM
Some days ago I asked for advices about my problematic withdrawal from the Betnomi.com site, on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317581.0 . Basically my 250eur withdrawal is locked by a whole week waiting to be confirmed ( my first two "100eur each" smaller withdrawals got no problem). Today, looking for informations about betnomi, I read of other users who have reported strange difficulties in withdrawing from there. So I got an idea about what happened in my case. Basically at this point I guess betnomi paid a low fee for my withdrawal purposely.  In this way they gave me the illusion of having my withdrawal (so I can't say nothing, they paid), they still have the guarantee money will be back to them (when the transaction will be rejected, because the fee is too small to have a confirmation), they could decide if paying me or not when they will get back the money, they keep my attention in this while(maybe they imagine I' ll deposit again there). Maybe I'm fool to think this way. However going to an other fact:  this week I also received a freebet (that I won on the predictor game). I tried to use it but I got a problem (when i placed the bet, there was an absurd internal error)so I asked to the assistance (on Monday,Tuesday,Thursday,Wednesday). Each day they said me that they sent a request to another department and that  they didn't get back an answer from the department at the moment. Sometimes they also answered they was working on my problem, but they never replied positively. So also If it's true that I am a fool and betnomi is a very fair website, maybe I will receive my withdrawal, of course each new user should know betnomi takes a long time to solve very relevant problems (withdrawal,using freebets) and meanwhile the chat assistance doesn't give relevant clarifications (they just say they don't have the answers you are lloking for).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 18, 2021, 10:33:36 PM
@mathematics_lover : Hey there, not the right thread to complain about this but your best bet to solve everything would be by getting in touch with Sorsis directly through telegram

You can add @sorsis on telegram or ask for assistance through their telegram group chat https://t.me/betnomi



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: betnomi on February 18, 2021, 11:37:42 PM
Some days ago I asked for advices about my problematic withdrawal from the Betnomi.com site, on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317581.0 . Basically my 250eur withdrawal is locked by a whole week waiting to be confirmed ( my first two "100eur each" smaller withdrawals got no problem). Today, looking for informations about betnomi, I read of other users who have reported strange difficulties in withdrawing from there. So I got an idea about what happened in my case. Basically at this point I guess betnomi paid a low fee for my withdrawal purposely.  In this way they gave me the illusion of having my withdrawal (so I can't say nothing, they paid), they still have the guarantee money will be back to them (when the transaction will be rejected, because the fee is too small to have a confirmation), they could decide if paying me or not when they will get back the money, they keep my attention in this while(maybe they imagine I' ll deposit again there). Maybe I'm fool to think this way. However going to an other fact:  this week I also received a freebet (that I won on the predictor game). I tried to use it but I got a problem (when i placed the bet, there was an absurd internal error)so I asked to the assistance (on Monday,Tuesday,Thursday,Wednesday). Each day they said me that they sent a request to another department and that  they didn't get back an answer from the department at the moment. Sometimes they also answered they was working on my problem, but they never replied positively. So also If it's true that I am a fool and betnomi is a very fair website, maybe I will receive my withdrawal, of course each new user should know betnomi takes a long time to solve very relevant problems (withdrawal,using freebets) and meanwhile the chat assistance doesn't give relevant clarifications (they just say they don't have the answers you are lloking for).


This is just silly and outright waste of everyone's time. You created a topic about this but, apparently, that isn't enough for you and you have to spam the poker topic with this as well.
After explaining this situation to you on multiple occasions on multiple days, we will explain again as you wish.

The endpoints used to estimate transaction fees for our wallet are based on the average fee of the last 1500 blocks of the given blockchain.
ie, we use the formula average_fees_per_byte * TX_size. This gives a pretty accurate estimate for the transaction fees at the time of the transaction.
However, we noticed, on some occasions, there are rapid swings in the transaction fees. For example, if the average fees for the last 1500 blocks are lower than the fee at the time of the transaction,
we end up paying a much lower fee, and the same way if the fees were higher previously, we need up paying higher fees. So the idea that we purposefully paid a lower fee is ridiculous.


We modified the code to extract the fees based on the fees of the pending blocks in the mempool. This we found to be more stable and accurate.

In the meantime, you can calm yourself down and wait for it to get confirmed. In the event that it fails or is dropped from the network, we will send you a new transaction with the same amount.

Thank you.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 19, 2021, 12:33:04 PM
-snip-

Well, I do try to play cautiously, but in that case I decided to make an impression that I had an 8 or 5, just in case Trayvon had a better flush. But I'm pretty sure of that he hadn't any. I think with Ace or King high flush he would call. Right, @TrayvonKang? :) So, it was a semi bluff on my part, and most likely a bold bluff from him.(Hope to hear from TrayvonKang about what hand he actually had).

Yeah you could still have 8 or 5 but it is less likely for someone to open with 8 or 5 on that position and more likely for someone in BB position to have 8 or 5.

Idk, what about A5s or A8s? Imo, those are playable pocket cards.

Probably someone would open with A5 but Full 5s lose to Full 8s so I still think that it is a risky all in but it is all good because it works in your favour  and im sure Trayvon had nothing in that hand ( probably 4X or A high )

Yeah, hope he'll show up here telling us what he really had. :)

IIRC you lose to Yahoo last week with KK as well. I cant remember it, either you or Betwrong lose the flip with KK
Seeing such a hand, you forget about mathematics, you forget about everything. The first thought that comes to you ... "what is the probability that someone has a pair of aces?" ~

Actually, you don't. :) Mathematically, you are most likely going to win unless your opponent has AA. See this, for example(clickable):


https://i.imgur.com/hxbB495.png
 (https://www.math.tamu.edu/~phoward/m442/pokerproj.pdf)

Of course you can lose with KK to any combination, but imo no one should be afraid of going all-in with pocket Kings.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 19, 2021, 06:16:02 PM
Idk, what about A5s or A8s? Imo, those are playable pocket cards.

Those definitely are a good hands to be played on your position but judging from the check check on flop and turn shows that most likely you dont have a 5 or 8. Yeah someone could have check flop check turn with a 5 but most likely not going to jam on the river but would be value betting most of the time

Yeah, hope he'll show up here telling us what he really had. :)

He probably had forgotten about it already because he plays alot on swc and probably some other site as well  :P


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on February 19, 2021, 08:28:19 PM
Guys, I want to apologize before everyone about my failed promise to play with all of you. I wanted to do that, really, but this is some kind of bad irony: At 31th of January there was problems with Betnomi site and I couldn't register, at 7th of February i was  busy too, at 14th of February there was St.Valentine's day. Some kind of shit  >:(

Butthurted a little because I remembered that 21th of February is Birthday of one of my friends and he already invite me to a small party. And i will be out of the game this week too.

In fact, i missed this poker series :c

Actually, you don't. :) Mathematically, you are most likely going to win unless your opponent has AA. See this, for example(clickable):


https://i.imgur.com/hxbB495.png
 (https://www.math.tamu.edu/~phoward/m442/pokerproj.pdf)

Small addition: this is a not fully complete table, because your chance to win depends on what hand your opponent has.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 19, 2021, 11:46:11 PM
...//....:
+1
It is always difficult to play the series, the important thing is that the intention exists and you have it, you are very kind to apologize, the best at a poker table always and outside it, courtesy and respect.

...//....
Small addition: this is a not fully complete table, because your chance to win depends on what hand your opponent has.
Well actually those percentages represent the times those hands win against any lower pair, preflop. No matter what the opponent has, now when players show their cards e.g. "allin" the precise percentages you are talking about are obtained.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 21, 2021, 03:50:42 AM
upps! It seems that there is no tournament tomorrow  :-[

So let's review some Poker hands from last week :) ... I decided to add percentages of  some Poker hands.
I have made an image with the summary of those that I have taken to show the percentage.


Details in the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFYlpFZX9fA&feature=youtu.be (*)

(*)JJvsAQ:With the first hand I have taken the percentages in all its phases, but then I realized that in theory I needed to include the percentage against two players plus SB and BB since the button is thrown allin after a UTG raise, so those two players could have paid, in any case JJ against three rivals leaves a percentage of 47.9%.




Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on February 21, 2021, 08:45:49 AM
If you guys have no game this week why not swing by my game later.

It would be great to have you there. Might be last stream for a while

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286888.msg56402349#msg56402349


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 21, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
upps! It seems that there is no tournament tomorrow  :-[


The tournament is scheduled

https://i.imgur.com/rJu5kKG.png

but zero ppl registered ... because we don't have passwords or ?  ???


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 21, 2021, 06:33:20 PM
but zero ppl registered ... because we don't have passwords or ?  ???

Password was provided in the telegram groupchat but I've encountered the same error we had in the 2nd week so it is not possible to click on the register button. I think everyone encountered the same error as well so yeah we will postpone this one onto next week

-snip-

The hands equity might differ depending on what you are up against with. For example, JJ against AQo is around 56.72 % vs 42.88 % and 0.4% for a tie but JJ against AQs is around 53.91 % vs 45.68 % and 0.42 % for a tie

* This is just a rough estimation of the hand equity


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 21, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
...//....:
I read the information on Telegram, first it did not appear in the lobby and then the registration problem as mentioned arallmuus.

...//...:
+1

At least to have some poker this week, my apologies for being biased (video) but disconnected several times, and sometimes I leave it recording and I don't realize it, so try not to hit my poker hands  so quickly so that I do can stay "tuned" and be aware of the recording :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 22, 2021, 06:29:26 PM
Oh, the cancellation of the Sunday game was good news for me personally. It turns out, having gone on a Sunday fishing trip, I didn't miss anything. By the way, I watched the videos that famososMuertos posted and I had a question ... Am I alone interested in the content of game notes?

https://i.imgur.com/2cliRVq.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 22, 2021, 08:06:53 PM
Oh, the cancellation of the Sunday game was good news for me personally. It turns out, having gone on a Sunday fishing trip, I didn't miss anything.

It seems most people wont make it last Sunday so yeah I guess it was a good thing that it was cancelled. By the way, Yahoo said that the we are going to hold the tournament on Wednesday, not sure if this is a final decision yet but I'd figured to let you know about it because you are not on the telegram group.

Edit : sorry misunderstood it, the tournament will be up on Wednesday but we will play it on Sunday

Am I alone interested in the content of game notes?

Lol I am curious as well and I had notes for every one of you . Mostly your bluff and action from flop to river


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on February 22, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
I'm pretty sure the tournament will still be on Sunday, just that it should be up in the lobby by Wednesday so people have time to register. I was disappointed it didn't run, it was one of the weekends I had at home. I did get to play the GG masters as I had sattied into it, unfortunately it was a slow 3 hours unable to really get anything going and when I did many runouts that went 4 to a "Fuck me". Eventually I ran into Aces and that was the end of the day.

I had more notes on people when we played SWC, but I remember the Betnomi note system being glitchy off the start and just stopped using it. Most people I just have a general idea of what they are playing and why they are limping their monsters  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 23, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
~
Edit : sorry misunderstood it, the tournament will be up on Wednesday but we will play it on Sunday
~

Good to know because I'm sure some of us wouldn't be able to play on Wednesday.

Regarding the cancelling of the last Sunday's game, turned out to be good for me. Spent great time with my family, having those 3 hours reserved for the game. :)

~
Am I alone interested in the content of game notes?

Lol I am curious as well and I had notes for every one of you . Mostly your bluff and action from flop to river

I'm curious about the notes too, but I myself don't do that. I know so much about your playing style(everyone's of you, guys, in the Series) so that no notes could accommodate it. ... But, yeah, I'd love to see your notes on me, though. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 23, 2021, 03:45:38 PM
Lol I am curious as well and I had notes for every one of you . Mostly your bluff and action from flop to river
I'm waiting for the details! I wonder how my bluff looks from the side (maybe I'll reconsider my tactics). ;)

I'm curious about the notes too, but I myself don't do that. I know so much about your playing style(everyone's of you, guys, in the Series) so that no notes could accommodate it. ... But, yeah, I'd love to see your notes on me, though. :)
Betwrong, Probably everyone has a noted under your name "don't fight him" Did you expect something else? Who else in a sober mind will go allin with an ace and a three against pocket kings and manage to win (three of a kind).  :o


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 23, 2021, 05:28:17 PM
I'm curious about the notes too, but I myself don't do that.

I'm waiting for the details! I wonder how my bluff looks from the side (maybe I'll reconsider my tactics). ;)

This would defeat the purposes of having personal notes though  :P . I had a note for one of our regular players like this

Quote
80 % of the time if Bet on the river with high sizing = bluff

I Wont name the person because he is most likely going to change the way he plays on the river so yeah having these personal notes are great to get an edge over the other players . Its more like I cant really remember everything though so I had to make a note lol


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Poker Series #2
Post by: icopress on February 23, 2021, 06:02:44 PM
I Wont name the person because he is most likely going to change the way he plays on the river so yeah having these personal notes are great to get an edge over the other players . Its more like I cant really remember everything though so I had to make a note lol
I have notes for each of you too, although I admit I'm not a fan of such long recordings. Often many of you only resist on the flop, so I record the behavior of the players on the turn or river. For example: F / T / R (c/f) QQ, AK. I write down mostly dangerous situations, although I have not yet compiled a single note for Steamtyme (just almost all the note were in the period of the first series).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 25, 2021, 10:34:53 AM
~Betwrong, Probably everyone has a noted under your name "don't fight him" Did you expect something else? Who else in a sober mind will go allin with an ace and a three against pocket kings and manage to win (three of a kind).  :o

Haha, Should I start exploiting that from now on?  ;D

But seriously, none of you, top players in this Series, plays with the same strategy all the time. From time to time you change your behaviour unexpectedly, just like all good poker players do.



Am I the only one feeling that we weren't playing for a long long time?

Can't wait for the Sunday's game.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on February 25, 2021, 08:38:17 PM
Can't wait for the Sunday's game.

Yep, this Sunday i will be with all of you for sure. Despite I obviously will be out of champaionship leaderboard, I can at least have a funny game  :D
So, see you soon!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 25, 2021, 08:40:47 PM
But seriously, none of you, top players in this Series, plays with the same strategy all the time. From time to time you change your behaviour unexpectedly, just like all good poker players do.
Probably, the whole point is that, gathering on Sundays in such a small and friendly poker gang, we all feel more or less relaxed. There is no point in rushing somewhere, (unless you run out of beer and chips). It is for this reason that each of us deviates a little from our game strategies, and there is no particular cause for concern (as having played 4 games you still have a good chance of ending up at the final table). Although, if you remember the final game, it was very intense and lengthy.

Am I the only one feeling that we weren't playing for a long long time? Can't wait for the Sunday's game.
Am I the only one worried about the translation commission (https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_fee)? If, for example, your balance is empty, then to join you will have to pay about 45 dollars.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 25, 2021, 09:15:29 PM
Haha, Should I start exploiting that from now on?  ;D

But seriously, none of you, top players in this Series, plays with the same strategy all the time. From time to time you change your behaviour unexpectedly, just like all good poker players do.

Well yeah in a home game especially with a small field like this , you need to change how you play constantly or else someone might take advantage of it. To some extend humans tends to repeat their action over some time in similar situation which is why I keep some personal note on how you guys play

Yep, this Sunday i will be with all of you for sure. Despite I obviously will be out of champaionship leaderboard, I can at least have a funny game  :D
So, see you soon!

You might be able to get to top 3 to get some money and some points to turn the table  :P. Goodluck

Am I the only one worried about the translation commission (https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_fee)? If, for example, your balance is empty, then to join you will have to pay about 45 dollars.

You can always choose to deposit with usdt or usdc as an alternative though or probably some other alts like litecoin for cheaper fees


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on February 25, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Yep, this Sunday i will be with all of you for sure. Despite I obviously will be out of champaionship leaderboard, I can at least have a funny game  :D
So, see you soon!

You might be able to get to top 3 to get some money and some points to turn the table  :P.

Nah, i doubt about that. As i know, this is the last or pre-last game before final (at least as i looked into tournament table) so only money for this game and entertainment (which is more important for me) will be my reward  :P If i will win of course  ;D

Goodluck

And good luck to all of you  :D



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 25, 2021, 11:05:05 PM
Nah, i doubt about that. As i know, this is the last or pre-last game before final (at least as i looked into tournament table) so only money for this game and entertainment (which is more important for me) will be my reward  :P If i will win of course  ;D
Next Sunday there will be the 4th game, and there will be five more games, including the final, (due to some technical difficulties, we all missed two Sunday games). As for the table, you probably saw the results of the first series, so everything is in order, you still have time to easily score enough points for the final.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 26, 2021, 01:37:06 PM
But seriously, none of you, top players in this Series, plays with the same strategy all the time. From time to time you change your behaviour unexpectedly, just like all good poker players do.
Probably, the whole point is that, gathering on Sundays in such a small and friendly poker gang, we all feel more or less relaxed. There is no point in rushing somewhere, (unless you run out of beer and chips). It is for this reason that each of us deviates a little from our game strategies, and there is no particular cause for concern (as having played 4 games you still have a good chance of ending up at the final table). Although, if you remember the final game, it was very intense and lengthy.
~

I do remember the last final game. I won it, after all! :)

https://i.imgur.com/VZSGk1S.png

Indeed, it was very intense and lengthy, it lasted for more than 4 hours, and after 2 hours of playing, 8 players out of 9 were still sitting at the table! And, what a great game it was! I hope my perception of it was not distorted by the fact that I won it. I would enjoy it if I finished “on the bubble”, just outside of the money positions, as I often do. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 26, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Indeed, it was very intense and lengthy, it lasted for more than 4 hours, and after 2 hours of playing, 8 players out of 9 were still sitting at the table! And, what a great game it was! I hope my perception of it was not distorted by the fact that I won it. I would enjoy it if I finished “on the bubble”, just outside of the money positions, as I often do.
Betwrong, do you agree that you were just lucky in the final? Because I remember that you were very passive for the first 3 hours, and as a result, having entered the top three, your first all-in took away 80% of my chips, and this despite the fact that I had pocket kings, (you had AJ or something). ::)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on February 26, 2021, 03:29:01 PM
Next Sunday there will be the 4th game, and there will be five more games, including the final, (due to some technical difficulties, we all missed two Sunday games). As for the table, you probably saw the results of the first series, so everything is in order, you still have time to easily score enough points for the final.

Wow, nice. But anyway, i doubt about such occasion, if i will not be lucky as hell few games in a row  ;D

I do remember the last final game. I won it, after all! :)

https://i.imgur.com/VZSGk1S.png

This is the main reason why i always bet on Betwrong.  :D The last time this decision brought to me a lot of Doge coins  ;D



Also a question: Is Betnomi accept only bitcoin? To high fees for just a 15 dollars deposit  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 26, 2021, 03:44:38 PM
But anyway, i doubt about such occasion, if i will not be lucky as hell few games in a row. Is Betnomi accept only bitcoin? [..] To high fees for just a 15 $ deposit
As Arallmuus said ... "You can always choose to deposit with usdt or usdc as an alternative though or probably some other alts like litecoin for cheaper fees" although he forgot to mention that this is also an ERC20 token, so if you have no alternative in the form of XRP or any other cryptocurrency with low transaction fees, then you will have problems (in your personal account a complete list of supported coins).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 26, 2021, 04:33:43 PM
although he forgot to mention that this is also an ERC20 token

There is also TRC20 chain for USDT for far cheaper fees although Im not sure which chain does Betnomi use in their website but litecoin FTW , fast and cheap atleast for now :P

Wow, nice. But anyway, i doubt about such occasion, if i will not be lucky as hell few games in a row  ;D

Technically speaking, you need atleast 6 points each round for the last 5 rounds to ensure that you get a spot on the Grand Finale. Its not that hard because on average we have like 9 players so you just need to survive half of the field  :)

Betwrong, do you agree that you were just lucky in the final? Because I remember that you were very passive for the first 3 hours

Slow and Steady wins the race  :). I personally would be furious if I keep on folding my hands for over an hour but Betwrong is one of the player that is able to stay calm even if he has less than 5 BB left to wait for the best possible hand to shove . I personally would be tilted when I have less than 5 BB


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 27, 2021, 12:59:54 AM
New tourney is up, pw is btc2021s4 gl to all who play.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on February 27, 2021, 01:02:42 AM
...taking notes...
....although I do not need notes I am a live poker tournament player.


Gif: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maverick_(film)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 27, 2021, 11:30:14 AM
Indeed, it was very intense and lengthy, it lasted for more than 4 hours, and after 2 hours of playing, 8 players out of 9 were still sitting at the table! And, what a great game it was! I hope my perception of it was not distorted by the fact that I won it. I would enjoy it if I finished “on the bubble”, just outside of the money positions, as I often do.
Betwrong, do you agree that you were just lucky in the final? Because I remember that you were very passive for the first 3 hours, and as a result, having entered the top three, your first all-in took away 80% of my chips, and this despite the fact that I had pocket kings, (you had AJ or something). ::)

Of course I agree, man! :) I'm saying it all the time, among players of the same level luck is the main factor, and 80% of ppl in our Series, imo, are on the same level.  iv4n and I were just lucky to win 2 Grand Finals each. I'm not crazy enough to think otherwise. :)

Btw, if you are having these problems

~Am I the only one worried about the translation commission (https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_fee)? If, for example, your balance is empty, then to join you will have to pay about 45 dollars.

I can send you $60 via Buddy Transfer(just sent you $1 to test the feature), and then you can send me $60 in BTC to the address I will provide whenever it's convenient to you. No rush, really, just do it this year. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 27, 2021, 07:48:02 PM
Someone remembers Weby's wild luck? I had something similar today. In addition to the screenshots below, pocket queens fell to me 4 more times.

https://i.imgur.com/9yeJoM9.png

https://i.imgur.com/V1nxv2u.jpg

I can send you $60 via Buddy Transfer(just sent you $1 to test the feature), and then you can send me $60 in BTC to the address I will provide whenever it's convenient to you. No rush, really, just do it this year. :)
Betwrong, Thank you for your concern, I will contact you tomorrow if this question is still relevant before the game.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Poker Series #2
Post by: Steamtyme on February 28, 2021, 08:43:11 AM
although I have not yet compiled a single note for Steamtyme (just almost all the note were in the period of the first series).
I don't know if this is a good or bad thing  :D

I'll try and wake up for the tourney. I'm on nights so it's more likely I sleep through. I won't pre-reg in case I do miss it.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on February 28, 2021, 10:33:07 AM
~
I can send you $60 via Buddy Transfer(just sent you $1 to test the feature), and then you can send me $60 in BTC to the address I will provide whenever it's convenient to you. No rush, really, just do it this year. :)
Betwrong, Thank you for your concern, I will contact you tomorrow if this question is still relevant before the game.

Hey, @icopress, of course you can return the money via Buddy Transfer. (Just realized that the proposal to send it to my BTC address might look like a forced condition. :) )


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on February 28, 2021, 03:16:02 PM
There is also TRC20 chain for USDT for far cheaper fees although Im not sure which chain does Betnomi use in their website but litecoin FTW , fast and cheap atleast for now :P

This is sadly, but betnomi uses ERC20 chain for Tether. And all my tether on TRC20 :0
Shit, this is not the first time i found that it's not the best option to be Bitcoin maximalist  ;D



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 28, 2021, 03:33:15 PM
This is sadly, but betnomi uses ERC20 chain for Tether. And all my tether on TRC20 :0
Shit, this is not the first time i found that it's not the best option to be Bitcoin maximalist  ;D

90 minutes before we start so you can still use your usdt to purchase other alts. In this case, litecoin might be a better option for cheaper fees. Feel free to hit me up in PM 15 minutes before the start of the game in case if your deposit wont make it, I'll be happy to send some balance via buddy transfer and feel free to return it after you get your deposit ( this will only work if your in game currency is usd )  :)

password for 4th round : btc2021s4


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 28, 2021, 04:00:35 PM
This is sadly, but betnomi uses ERC20 chain for Tether. And all my tether on TRC20 :0
Shit, this is not the first time i found that it's not the best option to be Bitcoin maximalist  ;D
Just let me know within 40 minutes if you need any help. I will send you by internal transfer enough funds to pay for your buy-in. I understand your outrage at the inflated transaction fees, (so I can help you as much as Betwrong helped me). Ed: Oops, I'm late with the offer  :o


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on February 28, 2021, 06:09:06 PM
First person is now out. Sorry @tiktoklyfe. Here is the hand that preceded the KO.

https://i.imgur.com/D7UZ35O.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on February 28, 2021, 06:19:47 PM
I have been using litecoin 30 minutes before to buy into the tourney. It does work and is quite quick to confirm.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on February 28, 2021, 06:52:03 PM
  • I hope johhnyUA will comment on today's impressions of the game.
  • Steamtyme, didn't you hear the alarm at all?

I don't even know, in this situation I probably would not risk calling CCwatcher420's all-in. Having a set against the likelihood of seeing a flush or a full house ... Anyway, CCwatcher420 has a pretty lively playstyle today.
Ed: Betwrong is also waiting for an apology  ;D

First person is now out. Sorry @tiktoklyfe. Here is the hand that preceded the KO.

https://i.imgur.com/D7UZ35O.png


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on February 28, 2021, 07:44:32 PM
First person is now out. Sorry @tiktoklyfe. Here is the hand that preceded the KO.

I don't even know, in this situation I probably would not risk calling CCwatcher420's all-in. Having a set against the likelihood of seeing a flush or a full house ...

It was a bad call indeed but it happened and this is what makes poker interesting.

I was going to fold after CCwatcher raised 3 bb at the flop which is over 50% of the pot. This is way too big if he only had flush draw because it was a risky bet if you only have a flush draw. After the 3 bb raised, I concluded that he might have an overpair probably QQ KK AA or he might have something like A9 but the moment that other 9 pop out at the turn, I thought my hand is good

He might still have A9 but yeah I thought I was good . It was indeed a nasty cooler but oh well , lesson learnt. Better luck next week  :)

I mean like whats the odds of both of us having 9  :P . Cooler happens indeed


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 01, 2021, 11:25:35 AM
Yesterday I made a mistake when I decided to gamble with my whole stack here

https://i.imgur.com/qsHXPpe.png

First off, who the hell raises with a flush draw? IKR. That was my first mistake, but it could be not fatal if I folded after the reraising. Yet I decided to gamble. I knew CCwatcher had something, but I was hoping to beat him with a flush, the probability of which was around 50%. So, at the moment I was treating poker as a purely luck based game ...

https://i.imgur.com/DTPklVW.png

Apparently it was a mistake.

"Try to not gamble with your whole stack!"- that's my note to myself from yesterday's game.

GG, everyone!

Congrats CCwatcher420 on winning the tournament!

Congrats, FmBet and icopress on finishing ITM!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 01, 2021, 01:43:58 PM
First off, who the hell raises with a flush draw? IKR. That was my first mistake, but it could be not fatal if I folded after the reraising.

It was a mistake indeed but idk, I made a fatal mistake as well so yeah. IMO, You could have checked instead and call the raise to decide wether you will call the next bet on the turn in case if he bet but oh well I guess CCwatcher420 was really lucky yesterday. He got two monster stack from me and you with a set , that was damn lucky .

Congrats CCwatcher420 on winning the tournament!
Congrats, FmBet and icopress on finishing ITM!

Congratulations to those that made ITM. Only 7 player yesterday but being the first one to bust was frustating  :P


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on March 01, 2021, 05:37:36 PM
Yesterday I made a mistake when I decided to gamble with my whole stack here

https://i.imgur.com/qsHXPpe.png

First off, who the hell raises with a flush draw? IKR. That was my first mistake, but it could be not fatal if I folded after the reraising. Yet I decided to gamble. I knew CCwatcher had something, but I was hoping to beat him with a flush, the probability of which was around 50%. So, at the moment I was treating poker as a purely luck based game ...

https://i.imgur.com/DTPklVW.png


This isn't a mistake, but your post flop play does need work. We were flipping but say you hit your flush, it would still be 75/25 dog.

Was a fun game all. I do like Betnomi, but probably should look for an alternative.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 01, 2021, 07:26:07 PM
Congrats, FmBet and icopress on finishing ITM!
Betwrong, now we are in the same boat with 22 points, and I think we need to row faster considering that Arallmuus is 1 point ahead of us.

Congratulations to those that made ITM. Only 7 player yesterday but being the first one to bust was frustating  :P
Now it is clear to me where you have disappeared, it turns out that I was worried in vain... Btw, I don't see the weekly statistics by FM.  ???


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on March 01, 2021, 08:21:13 PM
I'll be happy to send some balance via buddy transfer and feel free to return it after you get your deposit ( this will only work if your in game currency is usd )  :)

Just let me know within 40 minutes if you need any help. I will send you by internal transfer enough funds to pay for your buy-in. I understand your outrage at the inflated transaction fees, (so I can help you as much as Betwrong helped me). Ed: Oops, I'm late with the offer  :o

Thx for both your propositions. I appreciate it.


  • I hope johhnyUA will comment on today's impressions of the game.

Good game, but the main things which prevented me from fully focusing on the game - is table design.  >:( (as i see it can be changed to be at least more friendly looking)
SwC has much better one playing rooms. But anyway, was not bad game  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 01, 2021, 08:28:59 PM
Good game, but the main things which prevented me from fully focusing on the game - is table design.  
A little earlier I published screenshots, they show my personal design of the room, perhaps my version will suit you.
Anyway, Betnomi has a pretty wide range of customization options, just take a few minutes.
Lots of player that has no concern with their money, keep raising with air then eventually hit it on the river. This happened most of the times and its pretty tilting.
Man, publishing my game tactics here is at least unethical, (you are already a leader).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 01, 2021, 09:33:59 PM
Now it is clear to me where you have disappeared, it turns out that I was worried in vain...

Lol this is a nice sarcasm but that turn card cost me everything. I would have fold in the turn even if J appear on the board because I was suspicious from the flop about his betsizing but 9 appeared and that ruined my initial plan  :P. All four 9s appeared on the board and play hand, stuff happened but no worry I will be taking the ITM spot next week lol

I do like Betnomi, but probably should look for an alternative.

Something to do with the field? Im not really fancy with the field as well, having hard time playing other tourney there. Lots of player that has no concern with their money, keep raising with air then eventually hit it on the river. This happened most of the times and its pretty tilting

SwC has much better one playing rooms. But anyway, was not bad game  :)

Design wise, swc is better but swc's blind structure sucks. Most player will be in short stacks after the first break forcing them to shove. Its more like a 'gamble' instead of poker tbh ( personal opinion )


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 03, 2021, 02:50:37 AM
We have finally played Q4, the total of players is 9 + 3.
 

There are three players outside of FT 1, rak3y0urchips, johhny, Iv4n, for other details, OP.
__
Thanks, =,  GG alls.
icopress on his last hand ... buying a ticket on American Airlines.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 03, 2021, 09:50:07 AM
~IMO, You could have checked instead and call the raise to decide wether you will call the next bet on the turn ~

That's right, and in any case risking my whole stack when 6 players out of 7 were still playing wasn't a good idea. Was waiting for 2 weeks for this game, and then finished so early.  :(

~

This isn't a mistake, but your post flop play does need work. We were flipping but say you hit your flush, it would still be 75/25 dog.
~

Yeah, working on it. :) Watching the latest WPT videos to learn from the best. See if that improves my game next Sunday. :)



Once again, thanks for the amazing presentation @famososMuertos!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on March 04, 2021, 02:00:13 PM
Steamtyme, didn't you hear the alarm at all?
Nope. I woke up about 2 hours or so after the game started. Was crazy tired so I likely just shut it off before fully waking up. Should be on this weekend, I'm at work but nothing big planned as of yet. Then I believe I'm free the next few weekends, not sure about how the finals weekend works out now with all these missed weeks, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 04, 2021, 05:10:30 PM
The PW (Telegram) is already there and the Q5 appears in the lobby (Betnomi). For late deposits, send money and synchronize alarms ...  :)

Mr. arallmuus officially comes out with...:


But really which takes him out of the tournament is :


Previously commented, but it is valid to add that he fulfilled what he said "I enter tilt with less than five blinds". (!?)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on March 04, 2021, 10:13:56 PM
Anyway, Betnomi has a pretty wide range of customization options, just take a few minutes.

Yep, that's true. I already customize this in more adorable way.

Most player will be in short stacks after the first break forcing them to shove. Its more like a 'gamble' instead of poker tbh ( personal opinion )

On Betnomi games are more smooth, this is true.
Anyway, game was not bad. Without a lot thrilling moments (at least for me, there was not too much "fat" combos) but with some kind of fun.



I will try to play with all of you this week also, but can't guarantee it.  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 04, 2021, 10:24:24 PM
[...]
FM, What service do you use to create animations with game moments? This a screen recording service or is there a way to download replays on Betnomi?

Nope. I woke up about 2 hours or so after the game started. Was crazy tired so I likely just shut it off before fully waking up. Should be on this weekend, I'm at work but nothing big planned as of yet. Then I believe I'm free the next few weekends, not sure about how the finals weekend works out now with all these missed weeks, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Man, I hope you have enough time to make time for two more games (since there are minor qualifying changes in this series.).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 06, 2021, 07:43:07 PM
@icopress
-None.
-Depending... -Depending... sometimes it is just ImpPT is enough, sometimes  (Wlogo) + G other times video capture software.
As for the point of repetitions, at least in the desktop version we should have a folder hosted with the histories but it does not exist...

By the way the repetitions/capture of:


Top·3



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 06, 2021, 07:49:07 PM
Tourney is in lobby, btc2021s7 is pw.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on March 06, 2021, 08:03:46 PM
Man, I hope you have enough time to make time for two more games (since there are minor qualifying changes in this series.).
If it came down to it, I would forgo the pleasantry and reg the tourney whether I knew I could make it or not. Especially with the missed opportunities this series where I was available. Tomorrow shouldn't be a problem though so that's good, then just one other. Make sure to get most of my duties out of the way before it starts then I should be free, unless shit goes sideways.

see everyone tmw


Edit: Post tournament
GG today everyone. It was a good game after the minor disconnects. Shame we couldn't fill the table but hopefully we see a few more people come out for the next round.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 08, 2021, 03:27:44 AM

Five "Q": points are represented in each of the avatars. The format is not .png it is points.
Series details OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.0), you can also check who the points correspond to by visiting the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OOETV-EIj7o8UjwINUw3YjGOruqRrOB0D5QN36CJq9w/edit#gid=1983278553).
Congratulations ITM. GG alls.in


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 08, 2021, 11:13:24 AM
Yet another amazing game we had yesterday.

Yahoo was so lucky that he got pocket Aces 3 times!(I assume the post in the chat, "the dub", meant AA for the 3rd time, right? :) ) And then he goes all-in, and I think "Well, that's the fourth AA, probably, but I have AA too so I'm calling".

https://i.imgur.com/y0N1cPT.png

But it were pocket sevens for Yahoo this time, and with a bit of luck(he almost hit a straight) I won.

The final showdown looked like this:

https://i.imgur.com/6sDJIdV.png

I flopped a King, and went all-in, and Steamtyme called with his pair of eights, not knowing that I had pair of kings already

https://i.imgur.com/ebCbqu2.png

Well, “Ignorance is our ammunition” as they keep saying in the TENET movie. It worked perfectly for Steamtyme, and he won rivering another 8. But even if I won that all-in, I'd still had less chips than Steamtyme, and most likely he'd outplayed me anyway.
Congrats on the win, @Steamtyme! Great performance yesterday with taking the 1st position during the first hour and never losing it till the end!

GG, everyone!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 08, 2021, 05:57:22 PM
Yet another amazing game we had yesterday.

It was not a great round for me again but oh well I was playing damn bad as well so I had that one coming for sure. I've been having two consecutive lousy weeks so far but due to the low number of participants, I always get some points and still on 5th with 25 points. It would have been different if we had more than 10 players for every round, How fortunate for me.

he won rivering another 8.

Its always the sick river  :P

Congrats on the win, @Steamtyme! Great performance yesterday with taking the 1st position during the first hour and never losing it till the end!

Congrats man ! Steamtyme has 100% ITM record so far in this 2nd Betnomi Poker series, with 2 out of 3 rounds ended up winning it !


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: betnomi on March 08, 2021, 10:49:23 PM
We are making some changes to our free bets and bonuses terms and conditions by limiting these only to verified players.
This is being done to eliminate the extreme cases of multi-accounting, especially for the predictor event. (some users are creating 30+ accounts)
However, some of you we know are regular players on the website and are comfortable verifying your account so you can partake in all events and bonuses.

Kindly just comment your username and we will verify your account as needed.
Please note, the verification is at our sole discretion.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 09, 2021, 01:45:19 AM
I suppose the regulars of this thread can be checked automatically. [Ed] Those on this list under a poker pseudonym should probably contact Betnomi's support. In addition, I noticed that the betnomi in another thread only quotes users in the case of a check ... wouldn't it be easier to use [/ code] to update the lists?
Code:
Iv4n
icopress
Betwrong
TikTokLyfe
noobhere
TrayvonKang
webtricks
rak3y0urchips
FmBet
Steamtyme
CCwatcher420
johhny


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on March 09, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
I lost my roll playing craps on betnomi, but it was live. So that was real fun.

Commenting for verification. Will be sure to buy in for this sunday.

Betnomi name: CCWatcher420


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: betnomi on March 09, 2021, 06:49:38 PM
I suppose the regulars of this thread can be checked automatically.
Code:
Iv4n
icopress
Betwrong
TikTokLyfe
noobhere
TrayvonKang
webtricks
rak3y0urchips
FmBet
Steamtyme
CCwatcher420
johhny

Most of the uses in this list has now been verified.
However, a few among this list provided their poker username.
For this verification, we need your Betnomi username.
You will see a green icon (check mark) next to your username if your account has been verified.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 09, 2021, 07:59:46 PM
You will see a green icon (check mark) next to your username if your account has been verified.
   https://i.imgur.com/9XiZxXQ.png

I see a checkmark in black and white, although it is not that important [I guess because of the view mode]. By the way, I'm sorry I missed the Sunday game (for the first time) but I was a little busy. + I still don't see infographics with current leaders, FM hurry up.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 10, 2021, 04:05:18 AM
...//..:

mmmhh!!  /  ???  /  #143 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.msg56514643#msg56514643l)

Let's say that it has been the fastest classification that I have in the thread, I understand then that it has been a bluff
______

CCWatcher420, curiously, again I had J9 the same ones with which we played our HuH last week and I dare to say the shortest HuH in the history of the series at least with betnomi (I may be wrong) a single hand. On the play last Sunday I drowned on the river, nice call => nh.

Another hand that I liked was one that I played against Betwrong UTG with AK, flop: ATT , AQs (SB), I check-call all the streets, except the river, which we both check-check, nh.

I'm not on my personal laptop, but maybe I'll show them later.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: MonsterV on March 10, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Is this event officially sponsored by Betnomi, or is this just made up as a name for the tournament, if this is really the official tournament then I think there could be great opportunities to promote it even better than it is now, it is also a shame that bitcointalk does not have a separate Poker section?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 10, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
You will see a green icon (check mark) next to your username if your account has been verified.
   https://i.imgur.com/9XiZxXQ.png

I see a checkmark in black and white, although it is not that important [I guess because of the view mode]. By the way, I'm sorry I missed the Sunday game (for the first time) but I was a little busy. + I still don't see infographics with current leaders, FM hurry up.  ;)

I see the same

https://i.imgur.com/mmg8vzn.png

No green. :) Does it mean my account is verified, or do I need to do something else?

~
Another hand that I liked was one that I played against Betwrong UTG with AK, flop: ATT , AQs (SB), I check-call all the streets, except the river, which we both check-check, nh.
~

Yeah, I remember this hand

https://i.imgur.com/TJ0ysFF.png

I thought you might have had a Ten, or even a J9, and were bluff catching me by checking the river, so I just checked in return. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on March 10, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
I am Globb0  I think


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on March 11, 2021, 03:50:40 PM
Is this event officially sponsored by Betnomi, or is this just made up as a name for the tournament, if this is really the official tournament then I think there could be great opportunities to promote it even better than it is now, it is also a shame that bitcointalk does not have a separate Poker section?

You can find the answer to your question in OP post and the fact that main account of betnomi wrote here few posts before yours. 

BETNOMI (https://www.betnomi.com/) has opened the door for us to have a new poker series ran on their site. They ran a couple freerolls for everyone to test out the platform and try different starting stacks to see which suited everyone, now it's time to get the series started.

The guarantee will also be changed as well. I am introducing a tier system. This will motivate you guys to bring in more players. The more average participants, the higher the finale guarantee will be. The average will take all the players who joined each tourney and divide it by 8. That will give you the average # of participants. For example 20 players join 5 games and 30 players join 3 games, that will give you an average of 23.75 players, meaning a 1250 euro finale game.

The tiers are as follows:

0-12 players average= $750  finale
13-24 players = $1250  finale
25+ = $1750  finale

Don't thank me  :)



I hope this week I will be with all of you on Sunday. The chances for that are pretty high, since I'm free this weekend  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 11, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
...//...:
I thought you might have had a Ten, or even a J9, and were bluff catching me by checking the river, so I just checked in return. :)
In my case I thought; JJ +, and of course the Ax always enter your range betting on UTG, but I think that on another occasion you would bet with AK, AQ (or AA) stronger from there, 3BB, 3.5B+, whatever , nh.


My apologies for the cropped gif but size question.(max:2.5MB)



I am Globb0  I think
Hi, Globb0 /  8)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 11, 2021, 09:52:17 PM
but I think that on another occasion you would bet with AK, AQ (or AA) stronger from there, 3BB, 3.5B+, whatever , nh.

Nice thought process there. Most of Betwrong's betting ranges are Ax on the early position and the pot size bet on the flop tells you that he tried to protect his Ax holding there so if you have AQ it is quite unlikely for him to have the same hand so maybe AJ or AK because if he has A10 there is no point for him to bet that large on the flop

Would you still call if Betwrong bet again on the river? AQ would be hard to fold though sometimes but yeah its kinda like 65% fold there


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 12, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
but I think that on another occasion you would bet with AK, AQ (or AA) stronger from there, 3BB, 3.5B+, whatever , nh.

Nice thought process there. Most of Betwrong's betting ranges are Ax on the early position and the pot size bet on the flop tells you that he tried to protect his Ax holding there so if you have AQ it is quite unlikely for him to have the same hand so maybe AJ or AK because if he has A10 there is no point for him to bet that large on the flop

Would you still call if Betwrong bet again on the river? AQ would be hard to fold though sometimes but yeah its kinda like 65% fold there

I'd call being in his place. Hate losing with AQs and the top pair, but I lose so often with such calls. If I knew he had no pocket 10 and no straight, I'd make a value bet and he'd call, I'm sure. But how could I know? :)



Have you guys noticed that we need just one more player to move from here "0-12 players average= $750  finale" to there "13-24 players = $1250  finale"? @Iv4n, where's your godfather? :)

EDIT: I so wanted it to be true that I missed the word "average". It appears that we need more additional players than just one, and all of them should be playing in the following games.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: iv4n on March 12, 2021, 01:05:56 PM
Have you guys noticed that we need just one more player to move from here "0-12 players average= $750  finale" to there "13-24 players = $1250  finale"? @Iv4n, where's your godfather? :)

He lost his initial deposit and he didn't want to invest more in crypto first and later to deposit for playing! :) He played slots too much, like a little kid with a new toy! Probably my wish to stop playing affected him, without Enghilsh he can't follow everything on his own..

And I lost interest first in betnomi, later in poker... I didn't play poker since my last game here. I have a desire to play in some moments, but but... I was thinking to return to SwC, or to look for a new poker site... but I have less and less free time for hours of playing poker, the kid is growing, a wife is getting bigger (for a month and a half we are entering 9 months!)... :)

I regularly follow this thread and all of you! I just keep myself on a side when it comes to commenting! :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 12, 2021, 02:19:22 PM
I'd call being in his place. Hate losing with AQs and the top pair, but I lose so often with such calls. If I knew he had no pocket 10 and no straight, I'd make a value bet and he'd call, I'm sure. But how could I know? :)

It would be a tough one to fold for sure but probably FM would call even if you bet like half size pot in the river. Good thing for FM was that you stopped betting otherwise it would be a bloody.

EDIT: I so wanted it to be true that I missed the word "average". It appears that we need more additional players than just one, and all of them should be playing in the following games.

Yeah still needs alot more but atleast we locked up $750 which is still decent for the Grand Finale.

I didn't play poker since my last game here. I have a desire to play in some moments, but but... I was thinking to return to SwC, or to look for a new poker site... but I have less and less free time for hours of playing poker, the kid is growing

Yeah its hard to really play poker when you have to take care of the family as well. I'd also go for other stuff like slots if I have less free time to play , totally understandable.

a wife is getting bigger (for a month and a half we are entering 9 months!)... :)

congratulations on your soon to be born child  :)



Password for the next round : btc2021s8


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 12, 2021, 04:06:10 PM
Have you guys noticed that we need just one more player to move from here "0-12 players average= $750  finale" to there "13-24 players = $1250  finale"?
I have already raised this issue [Check out the first page of this thread], and nevertheless, if the third poker series is launched, I will then talk to Cyrus to create a separate subsection on the Discord channel. There are more than 300 people there, and I am sure that moving from tg will be justified. A Telegram can exist in parallel, but by communicating in Discord, we are 100% likely to fill the gap of players.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: johhnyUA on March 12, 2021, 05:18:32 PM
EDIT: I so wanted it to be true that I missed the word "average". It appears that we need more additional players than just one, and all of them should be playing in the following games.

So if I'm playing only half of the games on average i will not be counted as a needed player for grand final? Not so good, as for me and for you  :)

I will ask my friend to play with us, but not sure if he will join us (despite he loves Holdem very much)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
if the third poker series is launched, I will then talk to Cyrus to create a separate subsection on the Discord channel.

Judging from the lack of interest so far I dont think there will be a 3rd one though.

So if I'm playing only half of the games on average i will not be counted as a needed player for grand final? Not so good, as for me and for you  :)

This is not the case. The number of average players will only determine the prizepool for the Grand Finale, basically higher number of players on average = higher prizepool. As for the requirements to join the Grand Finale, it will be based on your points and only top 9 would be eligible to join the Grand Finale with 3 places paid.

You can check your points from the spreadsheet

I will ask my friend to play with us, but not sure if he will join us (despite he loves Holdem very much)

The more the merrier :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on March 13, 2021, 08:17:58 AM
Have you guys noticed that we need just one more player to move from here "0-12 players average= $750  finale" to there "13-24 players = $1250  finale"? @Iv4n, where's your godfather? :)

He lost his initial deposit and he didn't want to invest more in crypto first and later to deposit for playing! :) He played slots too much, like a little kid with a new toy! Probably my wish to stop playing affected him, without Enghilsh he can't follow everything on his own..

And I lost interest first in betnomi, later in poker... I didn't play poker since my last game here. I have a desire to play in some moments, but but... I was thinking to return to SwC, or to look for a new poker site... but I have less and less free time for hours of playing poker, the kid is growing, a wife is getting bigger (for a month and a half we are entering 9 months!)... :)

I regularly follow this thread and all of you! I just keep myself on a side when it comes to commenting! :)

OH wow congratulations bro.

You will be very busy soon then.  xxxx

All the best to you and your partner.

Globb0


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 13, 2021, 10:41:35 PM
Check-allin / maybe... ;)

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Congratulations!!
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As for the small final, I think it was said that 4 Q were needed, it was not official, and in fact the OP maintains that are only 2. This is a good argument for those who want but do not dare, because taking these three games He could be playing an interesting tournament and in fact, according to one point expert, 26 is the number for the grand final, if things go well.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 14, 2021, 02:50:25 PM
New tourney is posted, pw is btc2021s8.

Just to clarify, the new rule has been posted since the series started, I didn't edit 1 section but the rule stands. It will take 4 qualifiers to qualify for the little tourney.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 14, 2021, 03:07:02 PM
Just letting you know, guys, that you are not alone in seeing this

https://i.imgur.com/2hG5sss.png

circling infinitely, while trying to register for today's tournament.

Hope it'll be fixed soon, and we'll play. :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 14, 2021, 03:33:13 PM
Just letting you know, guys, that you are not alone in seeing this

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/wougC.png

circling infinitely, while trying to register for today's tournament.

Hope it'll be fixed soon, and we'll play. :)
I logged in and registered with 0 issues. Maybe it's your connection.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 14, 2021, 03:53:52 PM
-snip-

I registered like few seconds ago and its working fine for me. So far 3 players have registered including me, lets have 1 full table today. its been a while since we have 1 exactly full table

It will take 4 qualifiers to qualify for the little tourney.

@Steamtyme needs 1 more but he probably going to qualify for the Grand Finale. @Iv4n and @webtricks needs to play 2 more rounds to qualify for the small final. @johnnyUA needs to play 3 more rounds. Today is the 6th round so make sure to participate so make sure to register and play in case you guys want to atleast qualify for the small final  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 14, 2021, 04:04:31 PM
Thanks for your replies, @yahoo62278 and @arallmuus! :)

The problem was on my end then. I just registered in another browser with no issues.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 14, 2021, 07:19:29 PM
Thanks for your replies, @yahoo62278 and @arallmuus! :)

The problem was on my end then. I just registered in another browser with no issues.

Glad you made it . That last hand of yours was probably the first time that I saw you shove without having an A in your hand , and you could have played it slowly. Basically with your 25bb, you would be getting the 2nd place for sure even if you keep folding because yahoo was pretty aggresive and Jayce was short on stack so Jayce should be knocked out first



Im not sure what was happening but congratulations @Jayce for winning this round. It was a massive comeback with only 5BB left against Yahoo with his big stack but somehow he made a solid comeback by winning all those shoves ! Pretty lucky !

Good game everyone, see you guys next week  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 15, 2021, 08:49:33 AM
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` That last hand of yours was probably the first time that I saw you shove without having an A in your hand , and you could have played it slowly. Basically with your 25bb, you would be getting the 2nd place for sure even if you keep folding because yahoo was pretty aggresive and Jayce was short on stack so Jayce should be knocked out first


Absolutely. Shoving here

https://i.imgur.com/lp5eqTK.png

was a mistake on my side. And it wasn't like I was in a hurry or anything. I should have played it slowly at that point, but, well, "What's happened, happened." :)


Im not sure what was happening but congratulations @Jayce for winning this round. It was a massive comeback with only 5BB left against Yahoo with his big stack but somehow he made a solid comeback by winning all those shoves ! Pretty lucky !

Good game everyone, see you guys next week  :)

Wow! @Jayce won? That was unexpected. Congrats! At one point, when I was still at the table, it seemed to me that Jayce went all-in and lost to Yahoo. I even told my wife "It's only two of us left", and then I saw that Jayce, for some miraculous reason, wasn't out ye, left with some small amount of chips! And then he managed to win the tournament? Pretty lucky indeed. :)

Can't wait for the  @famososMuertos' vids!

GG, everyone.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: jayce on March 15, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
Im not sure what was happening but congratulations @Jayce for winning this round. It was a massive comeback with only 5BB left against Yahoo with his big stack but somehow he made a solid comeback by winning all those shoves ! Pretty lucky !

Good game everyone, see you guys next week  :)

Wow! @Jayce won? That was unexpected. Congrats! At one point, when I was still at the table, it seemed to me that Jayce went all-in and lost to Yahoo. I even told my wife "It's only two of us left", and then I saw that Jayce, for some miraculous reason, wasn't out ye, left with some small amount of chips! And then he managed to win the tournament? Pretty lucky indeed. :)

Thanks guys! It was pure luck indeed, and yeah I thought I have lost already with that all-in but somehow I was still alive. That happened so quick but I guess it was a draw since both of us had Ace, so I got my chip back and not bothered to check previous hand. Good game guys, and good luck!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 15, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
Absolutely. Shoving here

https://i.imgur.com/lp5eqTK.png

was a mistake on my side. And it wasn't like I was in a hurry or anything. I should have played it slowly at that point, but, well, "What's happened, happened." :)

Yep it was really unfortunate, you could have easily booked the 2nd place with your stack because Jayce was really low on chips. I wasnt expecting you to to shove that hand. It was JK and it wasnt suited. I was watching it and the moment you shove that stack, I thought you might had some pocket pairs like JJ QQ KK because it really feels like a confident shove

for some miraculous reason

Thanks guys! It was pure luck indeed,

It was a miracle indeed. Yahoo had 164k chips and You had 10k chips. Blinds was like 2k on the big blind, thats literally 5 BB with Yahoo standing with over 80 BB but somehow you keep on doubling your stack after each shove. I've never seen anything like that before


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 16, 2021, 11:34:39 AM
~I wasnt expecting you to to shove that hand. It was JK and it wasnt suited. I was watching it and the moment you shove that stack, I thought you might had some pocket pairs like JJ QQ KK because it really feels like a confident shove

Well, I would never shove JKo with 6+ players at the table(your notes on me being correct there :) ). However, I think there's a difference between playing with 6+ players and 3 players, because in the latter case, let alone in Heads-up, JKo are good cards to shove with, imo.

Yet, in that particular it was a mistake, considering NoobHere/jayce's stack size being 4 times less than mine.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 16, 2021, 03:33:32 PM
Yet, in that particular it was a mistake, considering NoobHere/jayce's stack size being 4 times less than mine.
Who knows ... for I, for example, am more wary of players with a small stack than the chip leader. But the fact that yahoo62278 was in the small blind is a completely different story. When you saw the flop, you should have folded your hand without hesitation, (in case of a raise). But this is not the main thing either .. You lost because you had no notes on yahoo. ;D


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 16, 2021, 04:20:57 PM
However, I think there's a difference between playing with 6+ players and 3 players, because in the latter case, let alone in Heads-up, JKo are good cards to shove with, imo.

It was a premium hands but you are not the chip leader so it was risky. If Yahoo shove any Ax hands, that would be fine because both of you guys are shorter in stack compared with him. Even if he shove any Ax hands and lose, that would be fine because he still has tons of stack.

Well everything happens for a reason, the fact that you shove that KJo hands and lose made Jayce won the tournament. Otherwise Im pretty sure he was going to end up at the 3rd place with only 5 BB  :P

When you saw the flop, you should have folded your hand without hesitation, (in case of a raise). But this is not the main thing either .. You lost because you had no notes on yahoo. ;D

Notes FTW  :P but yeah I mean we all made that stupid moves somehow but we learn from that. Sometimes Its hard to fold but a lay down is definitely needed. IIRC I made fold like 3 Ax hands in the last game because I wasnt sure with the big sizing raise , didnt want to end up as the 1st one that got knocked out so yeah had to make that lay down


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 16, 2021, 07:01:47 PM
Congratulations to the winners/ field.

From the comments it seems that we had an epic huh, sorry I couldn't document.

It is the second time that rak3y0urchips has been in a win situation (in these series hosted by Betnomi), the first one occurred in series#1 / Q#4.

For its part, NoobHere won the Q#2 and was second in the Q#8 of series#1, also  that today it has 40 points with two Q to play yet in series#2, it is equaling the amount of points it made in the entire series#1.


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Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 18, 2021, 10:18:35 AM
Yet, in that particular it was a mistake, considering NoobHere/jayce's stack size being 4 times less than mine.
Who knows ... for I, for example, am more wary of players with a small stack than the chip leader. But the fact that yahoo62278 was in the small blind is a completely different story. When you saw the flop, you should have folded your hand without hesitation, (in case of a raise).

Yeah, but it was all-in form the beginning. I didn't expect anyone calling, in the first place. If I knew yahoo was going to call, I wouldn't shove anything less than QQ. :)

But this is not the main thing either .. You lost because you had no notes on yahoo. ;D

I have plenty of notes on every player in our Series, but you are right, they are not in written form, only in my head, so technically no notes. :) I hope this way I can actually have more of them, but after third beer, yeah, it becomes less. :)


Congrats, @jayce, on being the first in points! :) Well deserved.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 21, 2021, 12:51:11 AM
We have 2 Q left, if place 10 comes into play that makes things interesting for position 9.
In any case, mentioning the new participation "awojj" on the last day marked his history in the series with 4 points.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 21, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Are we playing today? I see that no one has joined the tournament yet.

We have 2 Q left, if place 10 comes into play that makes things interesting for position 9.
In any case, mentioning the new participation "awojj" on the last day marked his history in the series with 4 points.
Now all that remains is the freeroll and the final game, (as I understand it, one more qualifying game will no longer change the results).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on March 21, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
I can't make it today, hoping to squeeze in the last qualifier next week if plans stay the same. Then looks like I'm going to have to forgo sleep for the finale weekend as I'm coming off nights. GL to everyone today


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 21, 2021, 03:21:08 PM
Todays pw is btc2021s9c good luck all


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 21, 2021, 03:57:02 PM
Are we playing today? I see that no one has joined the tournament yet.

I'm in, but ... only 3 players registered? That's unfortunate.  :(

Min required players: 6. So maybe no game today  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 21, 2021, 04:53:23 PM
Min required players: 6. So maybe no game today  :-\

It will start, I just registered a minute ago and it was exactly 6 players with me. Jayce probably will join us as well, I havent see him skip any game at all from the last swc series so it was probably 7 players total ( or 8 if someone decided to registered last minute )

I can't make it today, hoping to squeeze in the last qualifier next week if plans stay the same. Then looks like I'm going to have to forgo sleep for the finale weekend as I'm coming off nights. GL to everyone today

Due to the low number of participants, I think you will be getting the Grand Finale spot even if you dont join this week and the next one. See you at the Grand Finale Steam  :)

Edit : exactly 6 including Jayce and me but I could have sworn that it was 6 without Jayce. Probably someone unregistered?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 22, 2021, 09:07:52 AM
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Edit : exactly 6 including Jayce and me but I could have sworn that it was 6 without Jayce. Probably someone unregistered?

At one point, about 1 minute before the start, I saw the following picture: six players were registered, but it looked like there were 7 there, because they were numbered like 1,2,3,5,6,7.



Thanks to all who registered the tournament happened, and that's a good thing. Congrats to Yahoo for taking it down yesterday!

Here's the final showdown. I rivered an 8-high straight, and bet pot-size to which Yahoo replied with a significant reraise

https://i.imgur.com/DRtoxeG.png

I snap called thinking the best he could have was a set of Aces, but ...

https://i.imgur.com/b5eONj4.png

... he had an Ace High Flush, and all 150k chips from yesterday's game went to Yahoo. Great hand and a well-deserved win!

GG, everyone!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 22, 2021, 02:55:07 PM
Here's the final showdown. I rivered an 8-high straight, and bet pot-size to which Yahoo replied with a significant reraise

You know that its always a bad news when someone reraise your raise on the river with a shove but sometimes it is a price that you must pay because you might be having the best hand in this case . It seems he checked in the river and if you check as well then probably it wouldnt have ended yet, I probably would have called there as well depending on how he act on flop and turn.



Congrats @yahoo for winning this round. It seems that the three of us managed to get a better position this week compared with last week. I was 4th last week, ended up 3rd yesterday. Betwrong was 3rd ended up 2nd and Yahoo was 2nd ended up being the 1st this week.

Also it seems we have our final 9 players for the Grand Finale already


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 22, 2021, 09:38:39 PM
Congrats @yahoo for winning this round. It seems that the three of us managed to get a better position this week compared with last week. I was 4th last week, ended up 3rd yesterday. Betwrong was 3rd ended up 2nd and Yahoo was 2nd ended up being the 1st this week.
I join in the congratulations! It's all about the prefinal syndrome ... feeling when in the first round you know that you will reach the final without much effort, (and lack of competition). Hopefully the final game will be really intense and many of us will start to actually learn from our past mistakes. Btw, does anyone know where Weby is? It's time for us to place our bets.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 22, 2021, 10:05:47 PM
I join in the congratulations! It's all about the prefinal syndrome ... feeling when in the first round you know that you will reach the final without much effort, (and lack of competition).

Yeah I get that and with only 6 players and top 3 places paid, the total prizepool for the qualifiers was pretty small. I got around $15 for a $12 buy in for the 3rd place , thats literally $3 for over 2 hours of playing . Unless we can get the 1st place, its kinda lame

But your AK vs JJ shove wasnt bad though and It was like 30 BB shove wasnt it?

[/i] Hopefully the final game will be really intense and many of us will start to actually learn from our past mistakes.

It will be intense and tight like the previous Grand Finale, we played until the 2nd break and most of us still has almost the same stack back then.

Btw, does anyone know where Weby is? It's time for us to place our bets.

Well he wrote in telegram group chat that he will try his best to join the remaining qualifiers last week and he wasnt so probably he is busy doing stuff right now.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: STT on March 22, 2021, 11:16:34 PM
Congrats, I thought ace in that circumstance would count as 1 so the lower card if you both are putting up straights.    Seems pretty unusual to have both sides facing off from either end but if you play enough times alot of things can happen.   I think I had 4 kings once in my first 4 cards which has to be highly improbable.  I do know a few people who play but only casually really and somebody whose played his whole life since he was a kid but only really with relatives and us casuals.   Whats the best link to get them to get them signed up if I can, for some reason I havent joined telegram so I'll do that


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on March 23, 2021, 07:10:24 PM
Congrats, I thought ace in that circumstance would count as 1 so the lower card if you both are putting up straights.

It is but in this case, Betwrong was having straight to 8 while Yahoo had flush. Basically Betwrong was flopped to death in this board but Yahoo played it smartly and lured Betwrong to the river than jam it all to end the game

I think I had 4 kings once in my first 4 cards which has to be highly improbable.

Well I had quad aces so yeah it happens sometimes.

I do know a few people who play but only casually really and somebody whose played his whole life since he was a kid but only really with relatives and us casuals.  Whats the best link to get them to get them signed up if I can, for some reason I havent joined telegram so I'll do that

Asked them to sign up directly onto the website? You can add them to attach your referall code when they sign up. Also Betnomi is holding a $300 freeroll this weekend, you and your pals might want to join this freeroll to get some sights on the site before depositing real money  :)

More information regarding the freeroll HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325686.0)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on March 23, 2021, 07:22:58 PM
Yes you are reading this correctly, $300 freeroll on Sunday March 28th instead of our normal poker series tourney. We have reached our final 9 in the SERIES (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.0) and there is no way for anyone else to qualify. Also, there are no players who qualify for the losers game, so I talked with the owner and he is giving a $300 freeroll instead of a losers game.
As far as I understand, we already have 9 finalists, but we still won't play this weekend? [not counting freeroll] In the sense that the final game will be on schedule as if there were 8 pre-final games, (although I'd rather sit down at the final table this weekend). + What about ethics? Can players of the poker series join the freeroll?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 23, 2021, 09:12:41 PM
Yes you are reading this correctly, $300 freeroll on Sunday March 28th instead of our normal poker series tourney. We have reached our final 9 in the SERIES (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.0) and there is no way for anyone else to qualify. Also, there are no players who qualify for the losers game, so I talked with the owner and he is giving a $300 freeroll instead of a losers game.
As far as I understand, we already have 9 finalists, but we still won't play this weekend? [not counting freeroll] In the sense that the final game will be on schedule as if there were 8 pre-final games, (although I'd rather sit down at the final table this weekend). + What about ethics? Can players of the poker series join the freeroll?
Everyone can play the freeroll, it is not limited to new players or anything. The owner and I had a chat and since there will be no losers game, this is a great option to 1 have 8 weeks of poker plus a finale week, and 2 give everyone in the finale a week to practice or study for the game.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: STT on March 24, 2021, 02:33:17 AM
$300 freeroll this weekend, you and your pals might want to join this freeroll to get some sights on the site before depositing real money  :)

That does sound ideal introduction and yea I read the hands there wrong, I see the flush now.    They are all dufus so I dont know if I can get them to, its a no brainer offer to try out also depends if people are available but Im surprised lockdown situ hasnt been more of a boom in this way surely they will be around.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on March 24, 2021, 09:49:21 AM
Here's the final showdown. I rivered an 8-high straight, and bet pot-size to which Yahoo replied with a significant reraise

You know that its always a bad news when someone reraise your raise on the river with a shove but sometimes it is a price that you must pay because you might be having the best hand in this case . It seems he checked in the river and if you check as well then probably it wouldnt have ended yet, I probably would have called there as well depending on how he act on flop and turn.
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Could be a bluff though. :) Overall, imo, if you have a straight when playing heads-up, and not just a straight, but the best straight possible in that situation, you can't think your opponent has a better hand, you just can't. Of course you can lose, like I did, but in most cases a straight is more than enough to win, if it's a heads-up.

Yes you are reading this correctly, $300 freeroll on Sunday March 28th instead of our normal poker series tourney. We have reached our final 9 in the SERIES (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.0) and there is no way for anyone else to qualify. Also, there are no players who qualify for the losers game, so I talked with the owner and he is giving a $300 freeroll instead of a losers game.
As far as I understand, we already have 9 finalists, but we still won't play this weekend? [not counting freeroll] In the sense that the final game will be on schedule as if there were 8 pre-final games, (although I'd rather sit down at the final table this weekend). + What about ethics? Can players of the poker series join the freeroll?
Everyone can play the freeroll, it is not limited to new players or anything. The owner and I had a chat and since there will be no losers game, this is a great option to 1 have 8 weeks of poker plus a finale week, and 2 give everyone in the finale a week to practice or study for the game.

That's a great news! I hope to meet all our past participants in this freeroll, and also I'm pretty sure that thanks to it at least several more people will become interested in playing in Bitcointalk Poker Series in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on March 25, 2021, 08:41:29 PM
Sorry to say I wont be streaming my sunday game for a while, some one is going to be taking over my Sunday night chefcat social game.


I will share the link in my poker game thread when I know it.


There will still be a leaders table and a bitcoin talk team, hopefully, I may even be able to join it now  :D 


Love to you all and thanks for all the great support along the way.


xxxxxx


Globb0


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on March 28, 2021, 12:49:30 AM

Betwrong wins the "Q" with 48 points, winner of the BPS # 1 Grand Final hosted by Betnomi makes it clear that he is going for his second title.

The final top 3 played all the Qs, CCwatcher420 together with icopress played five Qs, the rest of the players in the top 9 signed up for four Qs.

Of the seven Qs played, only one player managed to win twice (Steamtyme), and  one player managed to be second three times in a row (runner up)...+ odds, soon.

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Q:link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.msg56130574#msg56130574)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 02, 2021, 04:30:08 PM
All finale participants have been pmmed, good luck to all on Sunday. Happy Easter to those who celebrate it.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 02, 2021, 08:57:19 PM
All finale participants have been pmmed, good luck to all on Sunday. Happy Easter to those who celebrate it.

Received the PM for the password and registered !



Considering the lack of enthusiasm, this is probably going to be the last bitcointalk weekend poker game. Even if there is another series after this, I dont think we could even reach an average of 8 players for every rounds lol. Its understandable, some of you might be getting sick of poker already or probably lots of circumstances are happening in your life so yeah lets enjoy while we can and win some cash in this last game  :)

Although I said to enjoy this game, Im definitely aiming for the 1st place  :P Best of luck everyone !


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 03, 2021, 09:16:41 AM
~
Considering the lack of enthusiasm, this is probably going to be the last bitcointalk weekend poker game.~

I'm not sure about this. :) I think it is prestigious to run Bitcointalk Poker Series, and that's what counts more than attracting more players to site through this particular event. I mean, it aims for the future. Right now millions of people play poker online, but very few of them use BTC. Surely this will change in the years to come. And something like "host of the official Bitcointalk Poker Series" will be a nice thing to have in your portfolio.

That's what I think.



Good luck everyone tomorrow!

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Although I said to enjoy this game, Im definitely aiming for the 1st place  :P Best of luck everyone !

I will reply to this with the words by Maria Lampropulos that I heard yesterday watching her game for the millionth time. When playing heads-up at the Caribbean Adventure 2018 – Main Event – Final Table, her opponent, after losing 2 all-ins in a row, said "Let me win this one", and she replied "No, please, I want". :)

https://youtu.be/uJPNkpAAAkw?t=671


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on April 03, 2021, 09:20:51 AM
I will answer to this with the words by Maria Lampropulos that I heard yesterday watching her game for the millionth time. When playing heads-up at the Caribbean Adventure 2018 – Main Event – Final Table, her opponent, after 2 all-ins to her, said "Let me win this one", and she replied "No, please, I want". :)
I love it.

I'll keep trying to play. The Sunday afternoons are tough with it being one of the few days the kids have off school. It's definitely easier in the summer. The pandemic stuff has made it easy enough recently as any little sniffle pretty much keeps the kids out of school, imagine that in a Canadian winter. Either way, looking forward to trying for a 3peat this series and for my 2nd Title.

GL everyone


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 03, 2021, 09:54:21 PM
~
Considering the lack of enthusiasm, this is probably going to be the last bitcointalk weekend poker game.~

I'm not sure about this. :) I think it is prestigious to run Bitcointalk Poker Series, and that's what counts more than attracting more players to site through this particular event. I mean, it aims for the future. Right now millions of people play poker online, but very few of them use BTC. Surely this will change in the years to come. And something like "host of the official Bitcointalk Poker Series" will be a nice thing to have in your portfolio.

That's what I think.

The main purposes of a site to sponsor this would be to attract potential players to their site otherwise it would be pointless to spend over $1k just for  9 weeks of poker games in bitcointalk. Not to mention that somehow it feels sad to see that each rounds probably has less than 9 players. Its kinda shows that most people arent even interested in the game that you sponsored  :-\

looking forward to trying for a 3peat this series and for my 2nd Title.

Fun facts : There are only 3 bitcointalk poker series winners so far out of all 5 completed series ( 4 swc poker series and 1 Betnomi poker series ). Iv4n and Betwrong won twice and then we have the other winner which is you. I will mark my name in the hall of fame this time  :P


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 04, 2021, 03:17:45 PM
Good luck to everyone in the finals today! Everyone except arallmuus ... he plays well even without luck!  ;D

Ed: For some reason, I cannot send messages to the game chat ...


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 04, 2021, 06:15:30 PM
Final Table.
Before the first break:
rak3y0ouchips => x CCwatcher420  not sure, I was absent (sit out) by "Connecting ... please wait"

Break 1:
https://i.imgur.com/SUnOhfk.jpg

update:
Before the second break:

https://i.imgur.com/rTqcdhx.jpg
Tik vs ico...call river

2,3 "Connecting..."

update2:
Break 2:
https://i.imgur.com/nZvjamj.jpg

update 3:
8:
https://i.imgur.com/Hm6UMmW.jpg



7:
UTG (Tik) vs BB (Fm) vs betwrong (sb)
limp-call (66) vs AQ allin vs xx call-fold
66 vs AQ
nh / :( lol

Update 4:
https://i.imgur.com/RtgLKks.jpg



update 5:
4-5
https://i.imgur.com/eOGiWEY.jpg

....206 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.msg56711931#msg56711931)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 04, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
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LOL  ;D
It was of course an epic game, not that losing would bother me, just flying out of a tournament in a place with someone is much more fun than alone. And of course, as I said earlier, it was a great game, a game in a narrow circle of friends, so it's a sin not to be happy for Arallmuus. The only thing missing was the ability to bet on the winner, so I hope Weby will be able to help in this by the next final game.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 04, 2021, 07:38:25 PM
LOL  ;D
Really....

ITM  Playing Top 3)

https://i.imgur.com/RtZOQj3.jpg


update:
Before the third break:

https://i.imgur.com/rQX13dj.jpg

___________
...
we have 24 minutes of play with the top 3.
I thought it would be faster to have HUH

___________
just now: connecting...please wait. (!?)
__________


NoobHere rank 3

_____________________________________

ALLIN
1.-
https://i.imgur.com/bzxrbeI.jpg

2.-
https://i.imgur.com/shZ1zFy.jpg

3.-
https://i.imgur.com/jN8x7PY.jpg

4.- fATALITY
https://i.imgur.com/FRskcPL.jpg








CHAMPION OF THE BITCOINTALK POKER SERIES


Felicitaciones/congratulations!!/enhorabuena


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 04, 2021, 08:45:09 PM
Arallmuus, my friend, I sincerely congratulate you on your well-deserved victory! 🏆 I didn't hesitate for a second, and let the guys not be offended, but I was rooting for you! As a matter of fact, my prophecy came true ... So tips are welcome, (for any predictable event of this magnitude my fee is $1).  ;D

[..] the concern in which I see your understanding that I am the only player who can relieve you of unnecessary stress in the finals, clearing the way for you to the first place.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 04, 2021, 09:54:35 PM
Tik vs ico...call river

Thanks for capturing all those crazy hand moments. This was the hand that helped me get my stack back otherwise I probably would be out sooner. I was debating wether to limp or shove this hand. 2BB open is probably not a good option considering my stack size so I decided with a limp instead

Icopress won against me once in the beginning with 44 as well. The flop was 4K ( another card, cant remember ), turn was K and I had KJ so I thought I should be good but nope

Arallmuus, my friend, I sincerely congratulate you on your well-deserved victory! 🏆 I didn't hesitate for a second, and let the guys not be offended, but I was rooting for you! As a matter of fact, my prophecy came true ... So tips are welcome, (for any predictable event of this magnitude my fee is $1).  ;D

[..] the concern in which I see your understanding that I am the only player who can relieve you of unnecessary stress in the finals, clearing the way for you to the first place.

Thanks  :) ! the reason that I get into top 3 was because trayvon knocked you and Betwrong out . My stack size was quite small as well so its just a matter of time before I got knocked out as well

I lose to your 44 hands , Im glad that I smell something wasnt right and check the turn instead, despite having top set with K. Had to call your river bet though because I thought that flush / straght draw didnt hit so you could probably just having another K10, k9, K8 ( wasnt expecting full house )

I also checked twice to one of your traps. IIRC , I had J top pair and you had flush draw. Turn was another diamond so you hit your flush. Glad that it goes check check until showdown otherwise it would bleed my stack

You are good as usual today , Cheers  :)



Anyway Thanks @Betnomi for sponsoring this and @yahoo for managing all these. Glad to be part of this series and play with all of you guys, It was a pleasure indeed and you guys all are great players !. If only @Steamtyme was playing tonight, the result could have been different though


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Steamtyme on April 05, 2021, 02:36:38 AM
Congrats. Hope everyone had a good one. I pretty much got F'd just a shit night at work before. Registered then for whatever reason couldn't connect 3 minutes before things kicked off. So being in a shit mood and sleepy, I rolled over and went back to bed, as I had one more shift this evening.

Congrats again



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 05, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
~

CHAMPION OF THE BITCOINTALK POKER SERIES

https://i.imgur.com/Ut93RT4.jpg

Felicitaciones/congratulations!!/enhorabuena

Thanks for those pictures, @famososMuertos!

What can I say? WOW!

I stopped watching the game once I was kicked out, thinking that the outcome was predetermined. No offence, TrayvonKang, but I was rooting for TickTokLyfe/arallmuus because I thought it would be fun if he won after the conversation that happened in this thread earlier. :)

I can't think of a better way to put it, so I'll cite the words by @icopress here:

Arallmuus, my friend, I sincerely congratulate you on your well-deserved victory! 🏆

Amazing victory! Congrats, mate!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on April 05, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
Kapow VIP, good job.


I believe. :)



Quote
The boy is dangerous, why cant they see it?   ;)




Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 05, 2021, 05:28:48 PM
I stopped watching the game once I was kicked out, thinking that the outcome was predetermined.

Well it wasnt. To be honest, It was a lucky run for me. Trayvon knocked you , icopress and Jayce out then I won few flips against Trayvon . The timing was perfect as well because the moment I hold some pocket pairs or some premium hands, Trayvon shoved so I just need to call those shove. He was a better player than me but I was lucky yesterday

I thought it would be fun if he won after the conversation that happened in this thread earlier.

I finally win one of the series after being runner up for two times iirc  ;D

Amazing victory! Congrats, mate!

Congrats again

Kapow VIP, good job.

Thanks guys !


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 06, 2021, 01:51:16 PM
Guys, let's share our experiences from playing poker on Betnomi.

I'd like to share my latest one. :) Normally I play very small buy-ins or freerolls there, but yesterday I decided to play in the $294.15 GTD-FreezeThemOut-Mini with $4.71+$0.47 buy-in, and it was worth it. I took the 2nd place with a pretty decent prize, almost $65

https://i.imgur.com/Y8ZZJVt.png

What about you, guys? What games you play? What's your biggest win?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 06, 2021, 02:18:37 PM
Guys, let's share our experiences from playing poker on Betnomi. [...] What about you, guys? What games you play? What's your biggest win?
Last week, I had no time to play at all ... as I have said many times before, if you want to enter ITM you have to sacrifice time. As for the winnings on Betnomi, if my memory does not fail me, I got into the Top 10 by participating in several major tournaments (but I received no more than $ 150 - $ 400). Small buy-in tournaments are a great solution as I am less worried about losing funds. I will join immediately at the final stage of late registration, I just have 10 minutes to make a few rebuys and eventually triple my stack, (twice 1 first place with a prize of $ 100).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 08, 2021, 07:16:40 AM
...//...:

I have played 2 or 3 MTT free tickets but with rebuys and addons, which suit my style very well, I won one of them and if I remember correctly it was about 22 euros, which gave me for a BPS buyin.

Then I played some cash tables for a couple of hours and took out another buyin. In one of those BPS # 2 tournaments I did ITM and managed to keep another buyin, the point is that the BSP has motivated me to seek action in virtual green tables, but I really haven't played as much as I wanted, but at least I managed to keep somes buyin for the series.

I want to have training for the later series, but my poker time these days is exceeded by everyday life, as icopress mentions in his post, you have to make sacrifices, but when we like poker it is well worth it. As I always say there is always time, even 15 minutes, so although it is something else, another story, cash tables are my option at the moment, so I have played there at betnomi Omaha, always find some players they are regular in that variant of poker.

On the other hand and to finish the pic for the winner, who must be planning a trip to the WSOP  ;)



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 08, 2021, 11:15:22 AM
~ I got into the Top 10 by participating in several major tournaments (but I received no more than $ 150 - $ 400). Small buy-in tournaments are a great solution as I am less worried about losing funds. I will join immediately at the final stage of late registration, I just have 10 minutes to make a few rebuys and eventually triple my stack, (twice 1 first place with a prize of $ 100).

Those are good achievements! Congrats, mate! :)

Now I'm planning on a bit higher buy-ins, like $10 maybe. Apart from our BPS, I was never buying tickets for more than $6, but there's a first time for everything. :)

...//...:

I have played 2 or 3 MTT free tickets but with rebuys and addons, which suit my style very well, I won one of them and if I remember correctly it was about 22 euros, which gave me for a BPS buyin.
~

Not bad! :) I myself used to play in tournaments with rebuys and addons, but decided to switch completely to "freezeouts" at one point. This scheme suits me best at the moment.

~

On the other hand and to finish the pic for the winner, who must be planning a trip to the WSOP  ;)

https://i.imgur.com/fFPYRYf.png

That's a nice trophy, worth printing out and putting on the wall!

Congrats again, arallmuus!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on April 08, 2021, 02:09:48 PM
The only thing keeping me from playing more at Betnomi is the lack of stability in the poker client. Admin says they will update sections of Betnomi site, but until this gets resolved, I probably will only play a few PKOs.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 08, 2021, 03:24:57 PM
The only thing keeping me from playing more at Betnomi is the lack of stability in the poker client. Admin says they will update sections of Betnomi site, but until this gets resolved, I probably will only play a few PKOs.
Yes I am definitely annoyed when the whole table is disconnected for 1-5 minutes at a time. There is supposed to be an upgrade this month I believe. I'd like to see another series happen as well, but i'll wait to see if there are improvements made to the site.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 08, 2021, 05:54:49 PM
On the other hand and to finish the pic for the winner, who must be planning a trip to the WSOP  ;)

Thanks for the lovely trophy image ! Still a long way for me to play in WSOP or such tournament. I think I would need atleast 300+ hours to study session to play in some higher stakes and play alot of practical hands as well

Now I'm planning on a bit higher buy-ins, like $10 maybe. Apart from our BPS, I was never buying tickets for more than $6, but there's a first time for everything. :)

You would do fine in Betnomi. A tight player like yourself suits the best in this field because most of the regulars in Betnomi are Loose Aggresive playe, some would even raise half pot out of position with just some bottom pair ( weird ). There are alot of those kind of players in Betnomi even in the higher buyin tournaments  :)

The only thing keeping me from playing more at Betnomi is the lack of stability in the poker client. Admin says they will update sections of Betnomi site, but until this gets resolved, I probably will only play a few PKOs.
Yes I am definitely annoyed when the whole table is disconnected for 1-5 minutes at a time. There is supposed to be an upgrade this month I believe. I'd like to see another series happen as well, but i'll wait to see if there are improvements made to the site.

Yeah although poker is not their main focus but aside from the disconnection, everything else is quite decent though.

Another series would be great if only we could get alot more players to play


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 08, 2021, 07:20:53 PM
Considering how I lured you while having a pocket pair of fours, you will need more than 300 hours, (although given that I stepped on the same rake, it's not for me to talk about it, lol). As far as the tight style of play is concerned, it seems to me that the whole thing is in the ratio of the stack and the blinds.

At some point, you no longer allow yourself to participate in the distribution with cards of medium strength, when you have to give up 10% of the stack, (for example offsuit KJ, or if you are subconsciously not ready to defend a hand). If during the first two hours you did not manage to seriously increase your stack by catching someone, then later there is nothing left but to go allin.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 12, 2021, 12:25:17 PM
Now I'm planning on a bit higher buy-ins, like $10 maybe. Apart from our BPS, I was never buying tickets for more than $6, but there's a first time for everything. :)

You would do fine in Betnomi. A tight player like yourself suits the best in this field because most of the regulars in Betnomi are Loose Aggresive playe, some would even raise half pot out of position with just some bottom pair ( weird ). There are alot of those kind of players in Betnomi even in the higher buyin tournaments  :)

I have the impression that most players everywhere are like that. They learn how to play poker from Daniel Negreanu, Tom Dwan and the likes, and that's why their game involves a lot of bluffing, much more than necessary, imo. It used to work in the past, but poker is a dynamic game, for which it's impossible to invent a strategy once and forever.

Thanks for your belief in my ability to be winning with my style of playing, mate! :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 12, 2021, 08:26:39 PM
First Sunday without series after 11 Sundays (including those that were not played) so even if one does not play the weekend,  wants to know how the results were... so in the nostalgia of not having series, summary of the HUH:

Q1:
TrayvonKang Vs. webtricks(W)

Q2:
TrayvonKang Vs. TikTokLyfe(W)

Q3:
TrayvonKang Vs. Steamtyme(W)

Q4:
FmBet           Vs. CCwatcher420(W)

Q5:
Betwrong       Vs. Steamtyme(W)

Q6:
rak3y0urchips Vs. NoobHere(W)

Q7:*
Betwrong        Vs. rak3y0urchips(W)
Edit(1)
*Q7
For reasons of 2.5MB, the poker hands from CCwatcher420 do not appear, my apologies for that. In the first, their pair of 88s succumb before the As and then as the last sigh a pair of JJ that are beautiful to rise from the ashes, after the previous play, surely result in an expressive cry of "·" "$$ ·"% ".



I'll update some things at least before BPS:V#3 or V#5 or why not !! a new version (V#1- Hb???).
-/1/-Edit-/-



Final:
TrayvonKang   Vs. TikTokLyfe(BPS.HbB#2-C)


https://i.imgur.com/URifaVe.png
UpDate: April 30, 2021
750 GTD Bitcointalk Poker Series: NL Hold'em. Final Table 2021-04-04 . Series #2 Hosted by Betnomi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSWmbcRI0o
Video SD/360
G.B.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 12, 2021, 08:41:56 PM
If we could get a list of interested players that will actually show up most weeks, I would try to put together a 3rd series from Betnomi. I don't know that they will be interested in 7-9 player games as it's really not helping their platform much.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 12, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
If we could get a list of interested players that will actually show up most weeks, I would try to put together a 3rd series from Betnomi. I don't know that they will be interested in 7-9 player games as it's really not helping their platform much.

Im definitely committed to play if there is a 3rd series in Betnomi and will show up unless something important happen ( So far none ) . Exactly 9 would be nice, 1 full table is good enough

I have the impression that most players everywhere are like that. They learn how to play poker from Daniel Negreanu, Tom Dwan and the likes, and that's why their game involves a lot of bluffing,

If you want to bluff, you will need to make it believable. For example if the board is dry ( not connecting ) then the only bluff would be highest pair, two pairs or a set but if you are in position but you checked twice then it is highly unlikely for you to have anything. If you have something, you are most likely not going to check twice

Even if you do bluff, it doesnt mean the villain will fold so yeah

-snip-

Dang, Trayvon had 4 Headsup and lose every one of them. Bad luck


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: CCwatcher420 on April 13, 2021, 03:03:50 PM
If we could get a list of interested players that will actually show up most weeks, I would try to put together a 3rd series from Betnomi. I don't know that they will be interested in 7-9 player games as it's really not helping their platform much.

I'd be down for a 3rd series.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 13, 2021, 04:00:23 PM
If you want to bluff, you will need to make it believable. For example if the board is dry ( not connecting ) then the only bluff would be highest pair, two pairs or a set but if you are in position but you checked twice then it is highly unlikely for you to have anything. If you have something, you are most likely not going to check twice
I'm not good at bluffing .. although I tend to agree that bluffing is one of the most interesting aspects of the game. But I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing that I rarely bluff when I play Betomi, although this is a rhetorical question considering that there is an almost 100% chance that you will be called even with a VERY weak hand. But in such a narrow circle as ours, the absence of a bluff is a disadvantage, (since the success of a bluff is determined by the opinion of other players). In any case, I am with both hands for the third series!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 13, 2021, 06:25:46 PM
In a tournament the bluff is a work of the seventh art ... at the cash tables it is a series Tv, a sitcom. (anyway there are good and bad actors)

I'm not 100% bluff never, I'm semi-bluff, I always wear something, although my style may indicate otherwise. (copy and paste, don't forget to "enter" to save/ betnomi-notes)

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Well I think that as arallmuus said the "9" are guaranteed, now it is a matter of adding players; although the minimum of 12 is the most ideal.




Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 14, 2021, 04:10:52 AM
In a tournament the bluff is a work of the seventh art ... at the cash tables it is a series Tv, a sitcom. (anyway there are good and bad actors)

I'm not 100% bluff never, I'm semi-bluff, I always wear something, although my style may indicate otherwise. (copy and paste, don't forget to "enter" to save/ betnomi-notes)

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Well I think that as arallmuus said the "9" are guaranteed, now it is a matter of adding players; although the minimum of 12 is the most ideal.



This does not say you would be in or out. Currently the list is 4 myself, arallmuus, icopress, and CCwatcher. I agree that 12 or more would be great but i think 20 plus would be much better.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 14, 2021, 11:27:06 AM
I have the impression that most players everywhere are like that. They learn how to play poker from Daniel Negreanu, Tom Dwan and the likes, and that's why their game involves a lot of bluffing,

If you want to bluff, you will need to make it believable. For example if the board is dry ( not connecting ) then the only bluff would be highest pair, two pairs or a set but if you are in position but you checked twice then it is highly unlikely for you to have anything. If you have something, you are most likely not going to check twice
~

This is not always the case. ;)

I recall earlier in our series, I had pocket 8s and flopped two more 8s, so what could I do? Of course, I was check/calling all the time, hoping for something good for the villain. It appeared that he had pocket Jacks, and when I raised(the last chance) after a Queen popped up on the river, he folded thinking that I had a Queen. Good fold! It's a pity he didn't river a Jack though. :)

~  Currently the list is 4 myself, arallmuus, icopress, and CCwatcher. I agree that 12 or more would be great but i think 20 plus would be much better.

Please, count me in! :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 14, 2021, 07:53:52 PM
...///...:
This does not say you would be in or out. Currently the list is 4 myself, arallmuus, icopress, and CCwatcher. I agree that 12 or more would be great but i think 20 plus would be much better.
Add me !! And the commitment in my case is not only to participate but to improve the level "Q ·" because I have not done the complete route.
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_

The freeroll showed that there is a desire ... for poker and the obvious money, they will not kill me, but maybe if we sacrifice the small final, and it is used as an "incentive" to attract new players (!?).

In the freeroll ($ 300 GTD):

https://i.imgur.com/ucNdyrp.jpg

Please my apologies to the top 4, it is not the intention to take away that honor, you can see them in the link:

It is to highlight the idea, $ 135 (they are euros in the case, but let's leave the example in dollars) were given to the first place, which means 9 buyin for the Q.
The second would take five buyin for the Q, the third place 3.5 buyin for Q and finally the fourth place reached 2.5 buyin.

So why not make a distribution of the corresponding amount for the small final for a (x) pre-series tournament (s) with exclusive tickets to play the series:

https://i.imgur.com/jwDLehm.jpg

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Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 14, 2021, 11:58:48 PM
I agree that 12 or more would be great but i think 20 plus would be much better.

You know that we probably wont reach this number  :P. I'll be glad if we constantly have 9 for every weeks, 1 full table and its good enough

This is not always the case. ;)

I recall earlier in our series, I had pocket 8s and flopped two more 8s, so what could I do? Of course, I was check/calling all the time, hoping for something good for the villain. It appeared that he had pocket Jacks, and when I raised(the last chance) after a Queen popped up on the river, he folded thinking that I had a Queen. Good fold! It's a pity he didn't river a Jack though. :)

Well I consider that one of the variances because everything cant be following the same scenario that you read / learn before but according to statistics you probably will only check/calling if you are out of position but if you are in position then most likely you are going to raise. Even if you dont raise in this hand, there is no guarantee that you will be not raising in the same exact situation when you have a good hands

Anyway, each one of you guys are pretty good and sometimes its kinda hard to even know what kind of situation I am in which also makes the series interesting  :)

Please, count me in!

Add me !!

I guess that makes 6


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 15, 2021, 05:19:43 PM
I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: icopress on April 15, 2021, 06:45:45 PM
I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.
I think it would be fair if everyone invited two people .. At least I'll talk to Hhampuz, johhnyUA and SyGambler as they all said they would consider joining the next poker series (if time permits). I'll also try to talk to fillippone, maybe this Italian stallion knows some poker fans from the WO gang. I want to repeat that if each of us does not leave this matter to chance and writes literally to a few people, there will be more than fifteen of us.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 15, 2021, 07:13:05 PM
I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.

I guess this means there is no 3rd series for us and I was kinda expecting this to happen because the 2nd one only has less than 8 in average. Few months break from bitcointalk weekend poker isnt so bad either. Some of us probably fed up with pokers already so yeah a few months break before the next one might be good though.

Well, It was nice playing with all of you guys for months ( close to 1 year since the 1st one started in swc iirc )  :)

I think it would be fair if everyone invited two people

I tried to invite few people from ggpoker for the 2nd series and they wasnt interested in this. Compared to ggpoker, Betnomi's poker is pale in comparison so yeah. Aside from few folks I've known from ggpoker, I dont really know anyone else that might be interested in this


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 15, 2021, 10:37:00 PM

I tried to invite few people from ggpoker for the 2nd series and they wasnt interested in this. Compared to ggpoker, Betnomi's poker is pale in comparison so yeah. Aside from few folks I've known from ggpoker, I dont really know anyone else that might be interested in this
Seems like we lost quite a few players that were interested when efialtis and FOMA got into their little spat with each other. Not sure why there aren't more interested honestly, its cheap to play and has a decent final prize pool.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 17, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.
I think it would be fair if everyone invited two people .. At least I'll talk to Hhampuz, johhnyUA and SyGambler as they all said they would consider joining the next poker series (if time permits). I'll also try to talk to fillippone, maybe this Italian stallion knows some poker fans from the WO gang. I want to repeat that if each of us does not leave this matter to chance and writes literally to a few people, there will be more than fifteen of us.

I think it's a good idea. Let's do it.

I just sent the invitation to @webtricks, @Globb0 and @figmentofmyass, saying:

Hello, please consider joining. We need you!

and quoting  this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310518.msg56789400#msg56789400) by Yahoo.

I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.

I guess this means there is no 3rd series for us ~

Let's not give up just yet. :)



To have 15 committed players, we need 20+ participants, and I think it's doable.



EDIT:

I just realized that figmentofmyass will hardly get my message. Last Active:   January 29, 2021, 05:01:58 PM

Also, if you, like me, weren't aware of what happened, check out this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313637), it's mind blowing in a bad way, to say the least.

Well, goodbye, FOMA, cheating is bad .


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: fillippone on April 17, 2021, 08:18:18 AM
I spoke with the owner today and the magical number for us to have a 3rd series is 15 committed players. If we don't have that many interested who can and will play weekly it likely will not happen for us.
I think it would be fair if everyone invited two people .. At least I'll talk to Hhampuz, johhnyUA and SyGambler as they all said they would consider joining the next poker series (if time permits). I'll also try to talk to fillippone, maybe this Italian stallion knows some poker fans from the WO gang. I want to repeat that if each of us does not leave this matter to chance and writes literally to a few people, there will be more than fifteen of us.

Sorry, I am not a poker player.
I would be slaughtered in the first round.
I personally know a professional poker player, Who could play in my seat if invited, but, you know... opsec


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Maasdamer on April 17, 2021, 08:20:56 AM
I would join if only that software wouldn't be so awful :( .

The 1 freeroll outside the series was so hard to play with this software.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 17, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
I would join if only that software wouldn't be so awful :( .

The 1 freeroll outside the series was so hard to play with this software.
I agree the software could use an upgrade, but the series has ran fairly smooth. There has been a disconnect here and there that every player experiences, so there is no advantage for anyone.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on April 18, 2021, 01:31:07 AM
I'm afraid I have no play money anymore.

Things have quite unravelled for me lately. But I think Ill be moving to supported accommodation soon.

Maybe when I am stabilised I could rejoin you guys



Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 18, 2021, 11:57:03 PM
I agree the software could use an upgrade, but the series has ran fairly smooth. There has been a disconnect here and there that every player experiences, so there is no advantage for anyone.

Btw, I just played for around 3 hours in one of Betnomi's tournament but it seems the disconnection issue is still there. Im not sure if they had an upgrade for their server but this time it is faster for me to get back into my seat after the disconnection. Normally I had to refresh the page several times before getting back into my seat. Some people probably still prefer to play in another site without this disconnection issue though

Things have quite unravelled for me lately. But I think Ill be moving to supported accommodation soon

Everything will get better for you soon buddy  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Betwrong on April 21, 2021, 09:18:34 AM
I'm afraid I have no play money anymore.

Things have quite unravelled for me lately. But I think Ill be moving to supported accommodation soon.

Maybe when I am stabilised I could rejoin you guys

Man, we all want you in the Series, but above all we want you to get well soon. I really miss your streams, and I'm rooting for you to get back to normal sooner than anyone can predict.



Regarding next Series, I'm out of ideas, guys. I don't think that the occasional need to reload/relogin is our main problem. There are other reasons why people don't want to participate, but, apart from rare exceptions, they are not telling us about their reasons.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: famososMuertos on April 21, 2021, 04:24:53 PM
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Regarding next Series, I'm out of ideas, guys. I don't think that the occasional need to reload/relogin is our main problem. There are other reasons why people don't want to participate, but, apart from rare exceptions, they are not telling us about their reasons.
Let's play !!

The commitment to play and share with community nicknames is the main thing, it has already been said, but it is good to keep it for new readers. We all have responsibilities and individual time is as valuable as that of the group participating in the series. So yes!! It's weird because this one that started with at least 15+ players is about to turn into a HuH tournament.

I'm going to play a tournament on May 10, /which I schedule in advance ehh !!/  there in betnomi and I mention betnomi because it is what there is, if there is another interested casino, welcome, it is good to clarify this, because so far it is the unique offering a "hodl" series. So I return to the idea, this tournament has a buy-in: 5.5 (euros) 5000GTD. We can do a "training"  and play ...

Anyway...This Sunday if someone plays a tournament there let us know, the $ 33 Tournament would be fine if it was freezeout, something freezeout is ideal ...

*The May 10 tournament is not freezeout.

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I'm afraid I have no play money anymore.

Things have quite unravelled for me lately. But I think Ill be moving to supported accommodation soon.

Maybe when I am stabilised I could rejoin you guys

Man, we all want you in the Series, but above all we want you to get well soon. I really miss your streams, and I'm rooting for you to get back to normal sooner than anyone can predict.


..//...:
+1


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: Globb0 on April 21, 2021, 05:23:42 PM
do they have satellites? thats how I enter tournaments these days


Title: Re: Bitcointalk poker series #2 hosted by Betnomi
Post by: arallmuus on April 21, 2021, 07:35:41 PM
do they have satellites? thats how I enter tournaments these days

There is no satellites for the weekend poker but they do offer hourly freerolls on their site that reward various tickets for other tournaments on the site. You might want to start checking those out

It's weird because this one that started with at least 15+ players is about to turn into a HuH tournament.

Some players previously stated their issue with the constant disconnection so that could be one of the main reason. I still think that having a break in between the next one would be great. Probably this series could be restarted in few more months and by that time, alot more people could probably be interested in this