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Let's keep this as simple as possible and let's not shitpost!

I see thousands of posts about football, a few hundred about other sports, and the rest are just almost non-existent. I'm a gambler myself but I stopped a while ago betting on soccer, all the Nxx in American sports and I'm just betting now and then on horse racing, from one penny at a time to some larger sums in case of a grade 1 event or festival.
But here it seems like there is little interest in this, is that because horse racing is just unpopular or is it because, well,.... the casinos that sponsor most signatures here are not promoting it? So no post quota to make?  ;D My old local gambling forum that covered this is also near death, I'm sitting in the sun 8 hours a day boring myself to death, so here comes feedback next part :

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

I never understood horse racing. It always felt very risky to me although by any chance if you hit the winning horse then you win a lot. I like less hassle when I am in entertainment. My first choice is football. I place bets, watch football and sleep LOL

Unless you try, you will never know. Good idea trying from your own funds if that works then you can look for sponsors.

No opinion for last two of your questions.

I don't know. I just feel horse racing has fallen from grace when comes to what actually is appealing to the average online gambler nowadays.
When I think of horse racing the images that come to my mind are those of my grand father or my old uncle dressing up, picking up his money towards the closest betting please where they can partake in such activity. To me it would be much of a hassle just to wager money on something I don't personally find to be entertaining.

The current generation of gamblers seek for more immediate and fast paced experiences, I guess; I like dices and plinko, since they are game where I can choose how much risk I wanna take and hot fast I want to go, with horse racing I cannot be in control of many of those characteristics which make online games to be attractive to me.

It would take someone really passionate on horses to make the time to bet on races, it is easier to be passionate on football, baseball or even basketball, imo.  

In my humble opinion, Horse racing is not popular to me because this sports is not easy to follow unlike other sports which stats and livestream is available on many website.

I once bet on horse racing but have a hard time finding a live stream to watch the match online especially those horse racing from Japanese. I believe this sports will be popular if the streaming for the live match is accessible including the horse stats.

I prefer football, table tennis, lawn tennis, basketball. Others that I prefer are casinos games like Roulettes and slots. I do not prefer to go for horse, dog or animal racing when there are other available options that I like to go for.

Gambling is risking, that is what gambling is. It comes with higher odds though, but more likely the gambler can lose.

Horse racing is very popular on oldies because my uncle is still into it u til now. I think most of the forum member hanging out on gambling board are Genz or Millennials which is why they preferred the popular sports over this animal sports that is not widely available globally.

Horse racing is very hard to win since it’s betting option consists of multiple choices that more than the typical 2 option. I believe it’s very rare for a young one to have a passion on horse unless their family is involved on it or they are from the community that this sports is popular.

Because many are not into horse racing sports and many people doesn't have access to watch such game so maybe that is the reason why this is not popular. Unlike sports betting like football,basketball and boxing where anywhere in the world have access and majority love this sports that's why many sportsbook commonly offer this since this is most adopted and have huge demand to people around. Availability is for sure the main reason for this question and its not surprising to see that this is not popular.

Isn't that what pure gambling is about? I like it when there are so many variables there is sometimes like littery nothing to do and just go with your guts!


Not planing on doing that, I will just run out of my own funds as it's just for my own entertainment, just as I still pay for a diablo server despite not playing there for almost two years, I just like that chaat and the guys meeting there.


I don't know what's faster than a 5 or 6 furlong race like the upcoming sprint cup  ;D
You know the time, you place the bet, and in 1 minute it's game over, Your horse blew the start and you can close the website already. Plus talking about a thrilling experience, one 2 miles 4f long jumping race with 16 fences that your horse can blow any time is more thrilling than the 11-meter penalties, It's one jump and all over not like you have the chance to recover. Probably it's just me but horse racing looks like chucking down monster energy cans one after other while roulette is sipping Aperol.

Oh, I'm not trying to convince you to strat betting, just lol, just pointing out things!


Not going to promote any website but almost every one of the established ones offers live coverage, I watch all UK and Irish festivals directly on the betting platform. For Japan and Australia, different time zone that's a pain in the ass and ruins everything! Same with stuff from US like the Kentucky Derby which I never, neverrrr! managed to see it live in the last 10 years!


Thanks for making me feel like a grandpa! jk! ;D


You can just go with a winning horse, or a 2-place insurance, there is no need to focus on things like a trifecta!
But, in my short-lived thread, I did manage to hit a perfect 1,2,3 place  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413000.msg60920652#msg60920652)on the second day.

If we are to look at global ranking, we could see that football soccer is the most common and acceptable gambling sport game that is more applicable to most gamblers, it's the highest most played game, let's also consider boxing and golf, it could be observed that even though golf is globally recognized, gamblers don't have much interest in betting on it as they do to football or boxing, you would rarely see gamblers playing golf or horse riding because there's no nuch spectators to fan the interest on live games as they appear on virtual games as well, despite we could see golf in gambling is well recognized after soccer, yet people gamble less in golf, there could be other reasons related to how people understand the mode of how these games are being conducted, horse could as well be a seasonal and what people appreciate most is what they see, do and practice themselves and they tender to gamble it most as found with football.

Personally, I've never really been a fan of sports that involve using animals, like horse racing. I get that these days, there are likely regulations in place for the treatment and better standards of care of these animals, but it wasn't always like that. In the past, animals in sports often had a rough time, and some were even pushed to their limits.

The difference between sports involving humans and those involving animals is choice. Human athletes willingly participate and make their own decisions, but animals don't have that luxury. They're compelled to perform. I'm not an animal activist or anything like that, but I do believe it's inhumane to use animals for human entertainment.

I guess horse racing betting is a thing of the past. Now there are many offline and online casinos that allow you to try your luck or use the services of betting casinos with a bet, for example, on football. It seems to me that the focus of public interest has shifted from horse  racing betting to sports betting, that is, the direction is becoming of little interest to gamblers.

Fully agree with what was said. Try it and you will know the answer, but I wouldn't expect much from it.

In my honest opinion, why it is not popular in the bitcointalk is betting on horse racing is more popular in the middle and old aged generation whereas bitcointalk is filled with younger generation people if I am not wrong.

Another possible reason its kind of considered as rich people game even though it is somewhat true but new era people are not really interested in wasting their time gathering knowledge about all the horses and riders and predicting out of it, they simply lean towards fast forward games Click = Bet = Win or lose.

Running a prediction event will surely attract more people but I bet it's just to meet the quota not really going to be people who are actually into the horse race tradition but there is no harm in trying and seeing how it goes.

You have to try it to see the results to conclude whether it is a waste of quota or if you can continue it in the next round. Whatever gift you prepare, as long as it can make them curious, they will try it. I have never gambled on horse racing because I don't understand how to play. Besides, I'm not interested in trying it because gambling uses animals.

I would rather bet on other sports, such as football, than gamble on animals. Gambling on horses is not popular on this forum, but you can create a thread to see how much response there is from all the members.

I do think that one of the factor that makes horse racing not as popular compared to other prediction games/sports is due to its somehow outdated game. People would rather watch sports or other kinds of relatively new sports than horse racing. Though I may be bias due to the fact that I have no experience in this field, but I think those reasons are what stops me from actually exploring/trying this field.

I remember when I was a kid, I visited this gambling house where a group of people were watching a single small television with horses racing. Whenever a certain color or number wins, some get mad and others rejoice.

Maybe one of these days, I would actually try or consider horse racing but as of now, it is off my radar.

I went for higher studies in England back in 2012. Ahh, what a country. I was in New Castle and used to travel to University of Sunderland. It was the Chester road that caught my eye with William Hill and Coral. Both of them were popular amongst us and we used to spend plenty of time on weekends to bet on cricket, play roulette.

However, I would like to point out my experience that is related to this post. There were many many old peeps that used to sit and bet on the horse racing and greyhound racing. As you would guess I did ask one of them how do you play it. They said you gotta know the horse and the player who rides it. Then only it is possible for you to understand who’s gonna win the game. At least predict that more accurately with that info. They even had news papers with them, I’m sure they must have studied it. I had more fun betting on other games rather than horse racing because simply I did not understood the game.

So I am not really sure if this game is going to be very popular amongst the other game loving peeps or perhaps the youngsters.

I think this generation does not really give in to horse racing compared to the older generation. Come to talk of it, I think it is just an old fashioned sports that is losing attention to the new generation. Aside that, the possibility why people do not think or give in to this particular sports is that the sports pattern is an outdated one and hence not attractive as well.

Another thing is popularity. In this part of the world where I come from, we barely see a horse so the idea of horse racing games does not really interest us in any ways. We do not see such as big deal and come to talk of it, for the fact that one would need to know the performance of the horses before betting one would constantly stay observant to watching out for the performance of the horses to always bet for which I think is not feasible so therefore this is amongst the numerous reasons I think people do not pay interest on horse racing.

Football is a general sport that is popular in may countries worldwide, that is why there are always many post and discussions about football.

In places where Horse Racing is popular there will be people who are interested in betting on it, but I do not think that there are many people like that here that is why there is not so much discussion about it here in the forum. If you start a discussion on it, other forum members who are interested in horse racing will be happy to see it and be quick to engage on the discussion. Many of them are just waiting for someone to start the discussion.

Myself I have not seen a horse for sometime now probably because I don't go to places I could see them lately at least places like the zoo but dogs are more common to see around and to know what capacity they could be used including sports and gambling. This will likely be the situation of the larger youth gambling population and of course they make up more of the gambling population. My point also is that it looks like horse racing is dying out and most casinos also don't usually include it on their games, they prefer card and table games like roulette, slots, blackjack. Moreover, majority of gamblers like the soccer game, I guess that is where the attention is and that is where casinos chase the gambling population to.

Horse racing isn't so popular like some other sports event all around the world. I'm not familiar with the horse racing, and I haven't placed any bets on horse racing yet. Moreover, this betting event isn't available in most of the crypto casinos. You may see interest from some forum members if you sponsor a prize pool for the people who join in it.

In that case, you should ask some casino representative to sponsor a prize pool for the horse racing prediction game. You may ask Betcoin.ag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.0) for doing this, they will run some giveaway on the next week in their website to celebrate their 10 year anniversary. I think they won't deny your proposal if you reach them at this moment.

Where I live betting on horse racing is probably the most widely accepted form of gambling. There are places everywhere like bars that have betting on horse racing available right there. There’s no need for a casino or to have to jump online and find a way to gamble. I imagine that is part of the reason that betting on horse racing isn’t as popular online.

I don't understand horse racing betting, I don't like it even though I only briefly see news about horse racing but never delve into it.

In its own country, horse racing is not very popular, any sport involving animals, maybe this bet is more popular in Europe and America, while what I know is that Asia is not so interested in it.
One sport that is generally popular is football, as a fan I also place bets and often play on this sport.

Talking about betting funds it varies but I don't have more than 2mBtc, only .5mBtc which I often allocate for soccer betting.

We have a very expansive horse racing sportsbook section at the new Betcoin.  We also have some great players in horse racing.

Please have a look here and we appreciate any feedback and are open to promotions!

https://www.betcoin.ag/sportsbook/horseracing

This will be great if you can add a play by play summary about the race so that bettors will have an idea on what’s happening with the race. I remember playing on some sportsbook that offering dog race, They provide live stream of the game that makes the betting experience enjoyable since this type of sports is not being broadcast frequently.

I might checkout this, The new betcoin looks appealing.

What i know that Horse racing is popular in the Arab countries in Asia too but i never showed interest in this sport, maybe because it is not being played excessively like other sports such a football etc.

Also, I haven't seen much betting on them online, or maybe I missed this part since i am not interested in this sport. Another thing is that I never saw any horse racing tournament broadcast on the tv, which could be the reason for me being ignorant of this sport.

Absolutely, horse racing is already faded away even though few casino have that game option on their site, it does not really get the traffic they expect compared to other sports. If one must gamble on a horse, one must know the capabilities of the horse before betting so as to be on the safe side. I believe this is one of the attributes bettors look out for before they attempt such game but in a situation where they do not have clues just like the football where you already know the capabilities of each team and their players, you could be able to predict the winner of the game based on what you have seen them do before but the horse race is likely not that same pattern to go with.

As you have said, horse racing seems to have faded away and possibly the youth gambling population does not really look into it to giving it a try. Maybe just a few try it out and majority of the elderly who see it as fun to do. Like in my country, I have never heard any youth talk about horse racing before not to think of they betting on it. Even casinos too do not really look into that direction too. Every one wants to flow with the trend to be able to serve their clients to maximum satisfaction.

In my case, I've always tried to bet on things I watch, know and like watching. I don't bet on horses for the same reason I don't bet on cricket. It's just not a popular thing where I'm from and I never enjoyed it.
When I talked about sports with random people in my area they're usually fans of football and volleyball. Some, rare cases like basketball and some, like me, contact sports, mainly MMA, boxing, muai thai...
I feel like it became a reality for all of us to bet on sports that we enjoy. I don't know anyone who doesn't like football but bets on it, and the other way round, someone who loves football and gambles, but prefers to bet on something he doesn't watch, like tennis.
 

I know what you mean. I've been a player myself for many years in many different games and I always feel a bit nostalgic when thinking about them and the people I met there.

If it's free to enter, yes, perhaps it will attract lots of attention. People can just throw random shit anywhere and hope for the best, so they can also do this on a tournament/prediction game that you will hold with your own funds.



Another yes. Clicking a few links and reading a few lines of text about the game will be enough of an incentive for those who are looking to get the prize money. It may not be a 100% certainty that people will be winning though, but taking chances is what gamblers do anyway. Plus, the requirements are pretty easy.


I used to bet on OTB horse racing locally, though my interest on it subsided as years go by. I shifted to eSports and more popular sports because I can't seem to find a platform that offers these lines and then some for me to continue following it. Perhaps there are some platforms now but nah, my interest on it already died years ago.

I remember that some channels in my TV when I was so young they only stream Horse Races 24 hours a day, probably the reason why i hate or let’s say didn’t want to get into this sport betting kind. I only know the ways of betting with the odds if you win but i can’t understand much about it and is there any champions, like football and how the races are organized? Many casinos here allow and offer horse racing betts but they don’t promote it that much simply because it’s less popular than football, ufc and other sports


One thing I’m sure of is if you started a paid competition for betting in here, you will find supporters and much participant as long as it’s a fun and well organized event. I never bet in Horse races but i would love to try it here with you

Probably, horse racing is not popular and is not played anymore these days because we have modern gambling games that are introduced in the gambling market. And these new games are much easier to bet or played for than betting on a horse racing which I think gamblers these days find it already old and boring. However, perhaps in some countries horse racing is still a popular game due to their yearly festivals, but here in my country, horse racing is no longer recognized or being played anymore.

Horse race was the offline gambling still available in many countries specially in the Asian countries.Even though many online casino and gambling was exist in all the countries,the people still had their interest in the horse racing.The interest and popularity of horse race was reduced because of the game fixing become a common one.So most of the gamblers are forced to loss the money without any reason.The game conducting people should clear the black dot on them to get the market to the horse race again.The horse race also involve of big money,So the gamblers with less money will use of online gambling as compared to the horse race.

Oh finally someone!!!!!  ;D 1:20, not bad not terrible!


Fading away?
USA - Breeders' Cup, $50 million bet on 5 races, $200 million over the two days, 50k spectators each day,
Australia - Everest, $15 million, 45 000 attendance
British Champions Day ,  £30 million in bets, £5million prize money, 25 000 spectators
Saudi Cup $30 million pool prize, Dubai World Cup $12 million  pool prize
Japan World Cup, 100 thousand attendance, 6 million for the winner

Somebody paid for the Derby winner Fusaichi Pegasus $70 million and horse racing is dying?


Yup, I need to plan it nicely, make it easy to enter, and at the same time force the participants to at least know how many legs a horse has!
And, yeah, somebody will be winning definitely, even if nobody manages to get any race winner I will still hand the prize to the guy that got closest to something, like one that managed to choose a horse that got at least second or third. I need to think about this!

There’s a lot of bettors in my place for the horse racing and I agree this is very traditional though some sites already introduced this option and yet many still don’t want to adopt as they feel more the excitement of this race if they will bet locally. If you are going to introduce this online, make sure to have your marketing team ready so you can attract more gamblers as much as possible.

Possibly your assertions  with respect to your locality might be true and correct based on your experience and findings. If such happens then we should know that is just one amongst the numerous reasons why the horse racing seems fading away.

Most times the environment matters too to contributing to the availability of horses in a region. For instance, here in Africa, my country to be precise there are no much of horses. Some zoo even have no horses to watch out for. Africa as a whole I think do not prioritise horse racing that is why it seems Africa is not on the list of horse racing. Moreover, there are some horse disease too prevalent in Africa that makes it seems horse racing is not effective here.

i believe that most horse racing bettors are enjoying to bet it via physical watching of this race. or a lot are also watching via screen. hence, very few are betting online without watching the race either physical or virtual. the excitement is different when you are watching the race even if it is on screen. but some online bookies may already be offering some live streams. for online bettors who are not watching the race, for sure, they are already familiar with those entries.

The unpopularity of horse racing may have contributed to the advancement of technology and the application available on the internet plus the casinos that host events.  In my place horse racing is popular among the oldies but the lack of access to the internet and the advertisement that promotes it make it lag behind.  If the casino starts promoting horse races then it may probably come back to its popularity but I really don't know why casinos and bookmakers are not so fond of promoting such gambling events.

Also, with limited funds and being an occasional gambler, why would I start to learn about horses? Why would anyone?
Maybe if you gamble a lot and want to try a new thing but an average sports bettor who has $100 or less a month to spend and can find more than enough things he or she likes and knows a thing or two about will not try to find new things unless there's money to be made from it.

I think I could get into it if I had someone to introduce me to the sport. If I were to do it only for myself, without having anyone to talk to and enjoy it with, I'd end up betting on the things I'm familiar with.
I guess a betting game could work as an incentive.

You have a very good racebook with many tracks.


I mostly bet sports but do bet a little on horse racing. It's a good a idea to get something going here.

If we take a recap, there are lots of threads talking about horse racing and questioning whether it's ethical or not. There are even threads related to that, if I remember correctly, that horse racing is a form of animal cruelty. Many people have shown different opinions regarding that.

Yes, I do bet on horse racing and have a bit of knowledge about it. I lived in a community where horse racing operators were only a few blocks away from our home. However, I don't know the current status but some of them are still closed today. Maybe shift to online operation. Not sure though.

As for your plan, we will only know the result once you make it live. For example, I opened up a Mobile Legends Tournament even without doing a survey if many users are playing that game. Some show interest when I make it live but most of the challenges do not end up in a real match.

I loved horse racing with a passion.

But I became a compulsive gambler and no longer bet anything at all.

My grandad was a compulsive gambler
My dad was a compulsive gambler
I am a compulsive gambler in recovery.
My brother is an active compulsive gambler.

  I watch so many races at Aqueduct Racetrack that if I was in my favorite seat and the finish was too close to call I could call a dead heat and be right every time.

But I am done with it last bet was in July of 1990

Never enjoyed betting on any games that is termed cruel. You van search the internet and you find the cruelty of horse racing. Both the jockey and the horse are at great risk of getting injured while racing. There have been incidents reported in the media where these young colt have died due to racing. In such situation how can anyone bet on such a game. It is far better to bet on sports like football and others. It's is nothing but my choice that I avoid gambling in such games.

Horse racing is a real life event. Gambling do happen in this event but basically fiat gambling with hard cash and it only happens in that place only. But here it’s all about online gambling and that too with cryptocurrency. For this reason many don’t place bets on virtual horse races, as they don’t form trust on it. They do sports betting on different sports, but horse racing is ignored. Hence now many bookies also don’t include the sports betting anymore.

It's not virtual. You can watch the video live at Betcoin.

In my opinion, this has to do with the lack of popularity and even the lack of competition that horse racing has in each country. We have to ask ourselves how many countries in the world do horse racing exist in? Not all countries in the world have horse racing, for example in Africa according to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_horse_racing_venues

There is only 1 place in Kenya that hosts horse races and I highly doubt that the majority of Kenyan bettors know or are interested in going to watch this type of race so they can have more experience on how to better analyze a horse for them when placing bets. know how to choose better; It is also available in Morocco (it is only available in 4 places in Morocco and I also highly doubt that bettors in Morocco will be interested in going to watch the horse races in Morocco); There is also in Niger (a country that recently suffered a coup d'état and I also very much doubt that many people from that country watch the horse race, probably in that country only a small group of rich people watched it and I very much doubt that the event is constant).

there are in South Africa (only 10 places that hold horse races and knowing Africa and those damn South Africans, I can imagine that only the rich watch horse races); There is in Zimbabwe (only 1 place and I doubt that the poor people go to watch this race and I also highly doubt that it is an event in which they do a lot every year). see that Africa has more than 50 countries, but only less than 10 African countries hold this type of race and even in the few African countries that hold this type of race, they don't do it in many places in those same countries and I highly doubt they hold many events annually

Now when we look at the basic criteria for a person to start placing bets:

1-) the person needs to have good knowledge about the thing they are going to bet on, if it is soccer they need to know how to play soccer and the rules of the game

2-) the person needs to choose something that he likes and that can get a lot of information quickly and easily

3-) the person needs to know the markets for this thing well

example: in my case, my country doesn't have horse racing, I've never seen a horse race live, I don't know about the rules of horse racing and how to choose a good horse, even if I could watch videos about horse racing on the Internet. I wouldn't do well myself betting on horse races, that's why I don't bet on horse races, and I believe that many people on the forum are also in the same situation or think like me.

Honestly, I don't know anything about horse racing.

About your plan to give rewards for a prediction contest, I don't think it will light a spark either. Most gamblers who will join it will probably in it for the money and they will just take a peek at the horse numbers or names and choose one. But after that, they will be gone again for a month and they will just be back if you are ready to pay again.
It won't help unless there's really something to talk about. Did you try to make a thread about it? If you did, are there replies? 3 or 4 members could start a good conversation and have a chance to grow it.
You will just be spending a lot of money giving out rewards when you can see there are really fewer people here in the forum who are interested in it.
Never had I tried betting on a horse race in my life.

I find horse racing betting interesting because I understand that there are people who make money in the long term, as happens with sports betting or poker, although they are a minority. It is essentially different from casino games, where there is an inexorable loss the larger the sample size.


Based on me running something similar about poker on G&R, I'd say you'll attract some people who have a clue, not many, and depending on the degree of difficulty you pose. The higher the difficulty the fewer the responses.


I don't, and therefore I wouldn't participate, but I wanted to give you my opinion.

I have never been a fan of the ponies, but I really don't understand how the betting works which is probably what makes me not like the sport. If I had a better understanding I might start placing a few low wagers here and there for fun. Ignorance or lack of knowledge is probably what keeps a lot of the forum users away from the ponies.

Thanks for opening a discussion thread concerning horse racing, the thing is I find horse racing to be more complicated than other sports, it's less popular and I have to bet on an animal that I have no information about, there is no way to check the animal strength and health, there is no data of such.

Also the litter I've heard about such game is not very good, animals are treated in an ill manner to make them win races by force, they are injected with drugs for adrenaline end results, these things make me see horse racing as too risky.

Moreover, everyone is a fan of a particular sport, horse racing isn't just one for me, in fact, any sport that has to do with animals is not for me, I prefer sports that are carried out by humans themselves.

My understanding of horse betting is that you bet on a horse before the racing and if it wins you get the money. The bet can be placed on the winner or on the runner ups. Horse betting has its own charm and luxury. I had an assumption earlier that only affluent people are into horse betting. Later I found out it has its own fan base.

I haven't seen any online sports book providing odds on horse racing. I might be wrong though as there are non cryptocurrency sports book which I haven't checked. I have also read that such racing are cruel on the colt. They generally end up in injured, which leads to their death after few races. I think that might be the reason many of us here are not so keen in horse racing.

In my country horse racing is a big thing, but more and more of these race tracks are coming under fire for animal abuse. The main concern with horse racing are the way owners discard horses, after they get to the stage where they cannot compete anymore.

I think all sports where animals are involved are coming into more scrutiny these days, because the "new" generation are not seeing the old ways, the same way we.... old timers are seeing it.

It is a pity, because it is such a wonderful Sport and the treatment that these horses are getting are exceptional... compared to the treatment that horses are getting on farms.  :P

Ps.... I bet on some mudlarks last weekend and it boosted my pocket.  ;)

Horse race is rare in my country, it is solely reserved for the elites. The cost of playing this game is high so people pay less attention to it. And when a sport is not popular people will not place bets on it since they know little or nothing about it. I have watched some of the live games and I find sport interesting but very risky.

There is nothing that is not possible if money is involved. Running a production bet will attract more interest and members will watch games and predict matches. I will personally be interested because no knowledge is wasted. There is no harm in a trial, it could come out great.

Personally I grew in an area where Football and Basketball where the two most popular sports. The next comes car racing and tennis. So, no one was talking about horse racing, only if one or two guy would say it in a decade and those guys were admiring horses. Probably, the reason why it's not popular is that some people think, there is a corruption, drug use and cruelty in this game.

1. No, that won't attract genuine interest and probably will turn into shitposting or your audience will be very narrow, won't worth it.
2. You can try to see, why not? One or two events will be enough to give you an idea about that.

Honestly, mate, I know about horse racing as we also have horse racing competitions in our country, but the lack of media coverage is probably the reason why I didn't develop a passion for this sport. Basketball has always been the most popular sport in our country, which is why I tend to focus my gambling on basketball, especially the NBA.

I'm just curious why it's not popular here considering it's part of the most popular sports to bet on.

https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/05/most-popular-sports-to-bet-on/

There probably aren't many who are horse racing enthusiasts. Even if there were, they'd probably be really minor, it would probably end up being better making a private telegram channel or something similar due to how small the population size is.

I do think it's interesting but it's technically a sport, so I'm more on the side of wanting to know more about it. I got to watch it first with an official Japanese Horse Racing tournament online. Seeing as it was Japanese, I had absolutely no idea what the casters were talking about but the hype was there alright. If I were to join just because of how interested I am, I'd probably just choose a random horse number, and scream go while the race is ongoing which sounds interesting in itself, but I'd like to pass on the YOLO moment. Might become a bad habit. May join once or twice though.

Exactly, this is same my point on why horse racing doesn’t popular worldwide. Also the investment for the horse racetrack is one of concern since only few can afford to host this game since the horse requires huge field to race compared to cockfight colliseum.

Raising and training a horse too is not an easy task which is why there's only few players interested to enter the competition. But with a good media coverage, I think horse racing might be popular again because this is a very exhilarating sports.

Yesterday I wanted to close the topic but seems like the latest feedback was still better than I would expect normally as it topic grow larger.

So I guess I will just give it a try for the next week, a new topic for discussion and one in games and rounds I guess where everyone would be able to choose his horses, probably the upcoming Irish Champions Festival, 4 grade 1 races on which I plan to lose d'oh , bet more than 1 mbtc anyhow.  ::) It's too late for the Prix du Moulin which would have been great too but a week is more than enough.

I see that a lot of users are concerned it's complicated, I don't get it.
If you can play a handicap game in the NBA you obviously can do a placement in racing, let's not even talk about just setting a winner and that's it. Of course, if we go into an exchange and place against and on that's different but I'm not planning on lecturing users on that.


By default I'm banning you from my gambling topics  ;D, We will talk only about mining speculations!  ;D
I do gamble a lot (as in times) but I never exceed the planned sums, I usually end up betting smaller sums on weird combinations just for ht fun than going all in to make it big or whatever, and most of the time end up throwing a bet because of the horse name and some recent real-life event .


This is one of the misconceptions, you have all the data.
You know how the horse runs on grass or dirt, you know how he runs on 6f or 7 for one mile, you know how he runs on fast or slow goings, and you know his previous form ratings, it's not just blindly picking things.

I don't know why people like to talk about football as being more predictable when Denmark won the EU championship after coming from holidays not even being qualified or Brazil getting SevenUped By Germany.



Betting on horse racing is estimated to be over €100 billion annually.!!!!
And here we had users telling me betting on horse racing is dying.!  ::)

I haven't quoted or replied to a lot of you but I'm really positively surprised on the feedback, more info than I hoped for.

American Football is vicious with endless injuries.

Horse racing is a sport that kills at least 1 or 2 jockeys a year and quite a few horses.


Soccer or non American  Football have injuries but not a lot of death.

May be it is but I need at least some calculated risk there to feel a bit good about the bet I placed. Although the day I am not lucky nothing works. For example yesterday luck was supper bad and I lost a good amount of money [I usually is very patience when I gamble but when I lose patience because of few constitutive lost bets, then I end up losing a good amount because I starts to increase stake]

Horse racing is really a harmful type of sport because I also believe that the horse rider as well as the horse are both at risk in such type of racing. The horse rider is at a higher risk because any sudden fall could take away his life or break most of his bones and other injuries are indescribable. Sometimes the horses also die when they suddenly fall during the race and that's why it's truly a risky sport as compare to others. I also believe that Football is also a very risky sport because many players can get badly injured during the gameplay. There have been many cases where players legs got broken during the matches and that's why we can call it also a injurious type of sport. I think cricket is safer option for the ones who want to bet and other than cricket the tennis is the best choice for the ones who want to bet on the sports that don't cause any kind of injuries.

Horse racing is there for long time but doesn't get much popularity since majority of people are been hook up with other sport. Media hype is the main reason why horse racing popularity didn't reach to the mass and they always cover those popular sports.
Although we can agree that basket is popular game but football is more bigger and have wide audiences that's why aside from basketball those other sports has not getting enough exposure for them to be notice.

There's always some risk involved because it's a competition, but I doubt it's considered overly risky. When we compare it to other sports, there are very high-risk sports like boxing, kickboxing, and the like, yet they are popular and legally organized by promoters. There's even cockfighting, which is considered quite brutal, as the losing chicken often dies. Despite this, some countries have allowed it, with some even considering it a part of their tradition or using various justifications to make it appear acceptable.

It depends as there are many people who love horse racing and they even more love the cruelty of this sport.
Also in the modern day, we don't see any such bad incidents but of course, many incidents are not brought up in the public.

I would say that if you do not watch any sports whether it is horse racing or any other, better avoid betting on it. Betting should be done where you know fully about the sport and hence you can use your knowledge to place more competitive bets.

Basically, horse racing betting is one of the most popular bets among sports betting lovers, but many of our friends don't rely on betting as the main means of betting, maybe because of different reasons that each individual has, including me, maybe in the past I also often bet on horse racing, but now it's no longer like I said above.

According to my experience, even though betting on horse racing looks easy, it's actually not, in my opinion there are many things and terms that really need to be understood in betting, placing bets on favorite horse racing also has no guarantees, apart from that, studying some types of bets and several offers must also be considered to produce good wins, if not all the bets we place are in vain, Betting on horse racing is said to be difficult, yes it is difficult and it is said to be easy, yes it is easy, but the risk is more dangerous than betting on football, which many people have bet on today.

Several other reasons that make horse racing betting not much interest is placing a large bet in one match, that can be fatal because I have done it before, Different from betting on football, of course, you have big hopes of placing big bets on a match, horse racing is sometimes difficult, not easy for this type of bet, in my opinion, too dizzy to win.

I get it now, so you gamble with targets,  I only bet for the fun of it, if the coming festival has nothing interesting in it I might not put down a single bet, and at the same time if I see some seller race or class 5 has some horse named "Bitcoin something" I must bet on it, although the last one is 0 out of 5 and I know he will finish last out of 20. I just have a limit on how much I bet a month, never cross that even if I'm well in profit, but as I said If I don't think I can enjoy the race I'm not putting one cent on it.

That's probably the reason I would love to see discussions on racing around here, for me it's the atmosphere that matters more than the final result.

ps. Longchamp just finished, two wins, one at 1/4 odds (yup I made $1.25 on a $5 bet...looool) and another each way at 6/1, 13 lost, and my biggest disappointment is that I haven't managed to watch the damn races live!!! I don't even feel like checking how close I was.

Most people in this forum are interested in sports like football, cricket etc which is why horse racing never really received much attention. Another reason is because crypto gambling sites don't really focus much on it.

You could try your idea though it's tough to tell whether it would be successful or not. Trial and error basically. You should ask the peakies for some advice :).

Aside from the big festivals, horse racing is mostly managed at a Country level.
Here in Italy, there are very few bookmakers that offer odds for foreign markets, often very bad and obviously without an exchange....

I see more or less the same in the crypto sector.
Few bookmakers that offer these odds, practically none offer exchange bets...
in short, the sport by definition linked to betting is not worthily represented :( anymore and as I can see there are few people that follow such races.

If you look at horse racing odds at sportbooks you will see them moving very quickly usually while the race didn't even start, I guess it's because bookmakers are taking into account odds from parimutuel local pools in order to calculate their own odds since horse racing is traditionally a sport using parimutuel national pools for betting. But quick changes in odds is not suitable for exchange betting unfortunately.

What you'll be doing is something beneficial to the supporters or horse racing. I'm not sure whether people will be genuinely interested given that the only reason they will be joining is the prize money. It might force them to do a little bit of research and perhaps watch a few races, but after all is said and done, I don't know if they'll stick around. There aren't a lot of platforms around that post lines for horse racing so they might not follow the sport very closely.

I believe that's one very good reason why a lot of bettors are not going into this sports.
They need to keep up with the changing odds and that's time consuming for them.
And also, when it comes to horse racing, a lot of bettors usually enjoy this sports while actually watching the race.
Hence, we will find most bettors of this sports inside the racing venues or bars with big screen showing such races.

This could be the best reason, many site are not focusing in horse racing for some reason since this is very traditional and maybe they still have no partnership with the local operator and they can't just get the odds for the horse racing. The interest of the gamblers will always depend on the feature available in one site so if the gamblers prefers to gamble with other games then it will be the trend. Local gambling operator in my place still have this horse racing betting, I think its more popular to the oldies.

Giving awareness and making people know about horse racing is good. Myself have got a thinking that horse racing is for the rich ones, and we weren't able to see those in most of the sports betting. In the past I've seen it on directbet and have never used it. I've watched those in television and those who enjoying were Arabs and rich people spending big money on each horses. After going through the posts understood that horse racing odds will vary very rapidly. This means the winning on horse racing depends much on luck.

I bet odds or even at Betcoin. So I have 1,3,5 horses or 2,4,6. If you look at the odds of all the horses individually it helps if you want odds or evens. Go to the live streaming races since it's fun.

Horse racing is pretty popular if you’ll ask me. It’s just that there’s little to cover about it that’s causing it to not get so much notice as other sports do. Like we can talk about how Kevin Durant passes, how Rafael Nadal smashes, and every other A-list athlete for that matter but we’re going to run out of things to talk about Horseback racing. If the sport’s a little more active, more individualistic like basketball where everyone’s got their own spotlights, and more profitable for viewers and athletes, the sport would be prominent too. But as it stands today since the horse racing community doesn’t need the people’s attention, they don’t put too much work on magnifying its name.

It is most likely both, the gambling market on Football is very big and so is its audience, so it is no wonder sportsbooks would prioritise marketing Football over horse racing.

I am not sure, but probably not.

That 1-2mbtc is enough to feed a family of 4 for 1 week or more(at least in my country), so it is probably worth enough to spend some time to take a look at what horses are running and what their time form is.

I've bet on horse racing before, well my friend did with my money, he was the one who invited me to go bet horse racing. the smell on the race track was an unforgettable experience.

The old gamblers surely know about the horse racing,because it was the old famous offline gambling.Many people opinion is horse race was only for the rich people,but the fact is different.Anyone can take part in the horse race,if you are lucky you can earn some jackpot from the horse race.In some Horse race,the rich people influence the horse racing.Because they will influence the jockey of the horse,sometimes the worst horse of the racing will win by the influence of the rich people.This also happen like the unlucky horse will win by the influence of the rich people on the jockey of that horse or by the help of rest of horses.

Saying only rich people raced horses is a myth. Aristocrats and other wealthy people once dominated horse racing, but regular people's passion and determination kept it alive and grew it

The wealthy have too much power and control over others. It's crucial not to make broad remarks that undermine the reputations of the numerous jockeys and instructors who have spent their lives preserving the sport's authentic ethos

As an online gambler, I can attest that fair play is just as crucial, if not more so. Gamblers should be careful, responsible, and aware that things aren't always what they appear. Strength is knowledge

Well, I personally have known about horse racing for ages now, or should I say for as long as, or even before I started gambling, horse race is a very popular form of sports which gamblers bet on here in my country, we have a lot of local online and offline casinos that offer the ability to bet on international horse racing tournament, and not just horse racing but also dog racing as well ..

But then, coming back to myself in particular, I have never placed any bet on horse or dog racing before, and this is probably because I just don't find any animal games or sports interesting, they are kind of really boring, which is why I don't see such games as something that is worth my time not to talk of money.

I also think so, because only the rich do not place bets on horses, I have not seen this guy betting again, nor on horses and I did not think there were or existed at the moment, where I am there are many bets, parlay and of everything, but I have not seen if there are horses, I imagine that those that exist must be in betting places where they are very far from the city centers, and not in a casino, or in a parlay because I am not sure if that is here Coming with animals is prohibited, because I understood that sometimes these competitions made the riders treat the horses badly, which becomes animal abuse, but if it is, I haven't seen it, but it seems quite curious to me.

I believe that all types of betting games had its own prime, and horse racing is one of the most popular back then. In my country, it is popular in the 90's and the early 2000's.
But again it's a matter of time, lots of betting games have developed over the period of time, and at the same time our preferences also changes over time. Maybe the reason why horse racing does not create any noises anymore because people have started to lose interest in it. But personally, I still find it enjoying and engaging.

100% wrong. Horse betting will always be popular in certain countries such as Hong Kong, UK etc where crypto payment methods are being used along with the traditional FIAT payment methods.

Some of the world's richest people bet on horses for reasons like recreation, money laundering etc which goes to show that it will always be relevant.

If we are to look at the population today and the rate that people participate in sporting activities, horse race is far away from the first ten most preferred choice where we have football, basketball, boxing, golf, car race, marathon race, tennis and many more before you could think about horse race, which implies that it has low numbers of spectators or fans interested in playing or watching it, also we can consider the sport as an olden days sport event before now that many things have changed.

Well it's quite obvious because these companies here are after market that sell in the gambling industry which I presume is soccer because soccer undoubtedly the most watch and loved sport in the world and moreover most people don't even have idea about how horse racing works. I have played horse race in my local casino and it's almost featured in all gamble site casino I know locally and its quite popular in my place and I believe that if these crypto casino focus more on this game it might get some attention by gamblers.

Horse race is an interesting sport from my distance observation. Why did I use "distance observation" because I have not seen horse race in real life but only in TV and probably in movies. And I have seen it in bookmakers halls showing it and gamblers were placing bet on it. People prefer football betting more than horse race because horse race is not popular as other sport games. Like in my country there is no horse game events so many gamblers are not even aware of it, unless it shows in the gambling hall.

But if we talk of table tennis, boxing, long tennis running race (100 metre race etc) etc, and people gambling on them because they are sports people participate locally and internationally and not only on TV show but in physical life. So people are interested to gamble on them more. And I believed horse race in those days was a lucrative sport in which people liked to play and watch and not in this present world again. Though people still participate but it is not uch as before.

Horse racing isn't popular in here and we all know that... barely a handful of peeps are interested in sports like that. You seee, football has basically conquered the world's enthusiasm and it's almost becoming an impossibility to introduce a "new era sport" - well, that doesn't infer that horse racing is a new era sport - only that it was developed after the game of soccer. Maybe since it's all about humans on four legged animals, running on tracks and stuffs like that... maybe peeps don't really find that entertaining??

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Horse racing is the gambling which available most in the offline mode,only few gambling sites include the horse race in the online gambling.But the response to the horse racing was not high in online gambling as compared to the sports bet in the online gambling sites.The football plays huge role in the online gambling sites,in some countries alone horse racing was still available to the current date. However football was spread over the world,in the sports bet football was top most sports betting played by most of the gamblers.The interest of the gamblers was most important one in the survival of that sports in the gambling sites.So sports betting is mostly encountered the football in all the online gambling sites.This due to the top players like Messi,Ronaldo and Mbappe.

I agree with you, horse racing is one of the oldest traditional games in my region, and currently this game has become unpopular and that is the reason that a lot of other new games have surfaced on the internet and in physical casinos and this development has pushed horse racing to the background and making horse racing to just be a traditional game which is hosted mainly for festivities.

But then we are more likely to see new development in this game direction in time to come and for sure horse racing won't go into isolation as many perceive it to be since there is always room for improvement in this game at a later time.

You are underestimating the popularity of horse racing drastically. It isn't popular in this forum, but Bitcointalk represents a small percentage of the global world population if you think about it.

Horse racing is far more popular among offline gamblers when compared to online gamblers based on my research.

Correct.football bets are more popular on online gambling platforms than horse races. It's intriguing how the Internet has changed this trend. Global players like Messi, Ronaldo, and Mbappe also contribute to the football fever. There's more to it than fame. Also significant are accessibility and globalization. Football is more popular and understood worldwide than horse racing, which has a long history. Making it less terrifying for new gamblers.

However, sports and horse racing have separate betting. Football gamblers can bet on the score, player stats, or corners. Football is the most popular sport online because to its complexity and frequency.

I believe horse racing is only popular in some particular regions and countries and there are only a small percentage of people who actually like and follow the sport. I personally never had any interest in horse racing nor have I ever watched any matches or known any horses or people riding the horses, so I never really looked for any threads or any topics regarding the sport. However, I find your suggestions intriguing and I believe you might get a good response for that.

Basically, people will participate in competitions and events where they have an opportunity to get a reward for just spending their time and they don't need to spend anything from their pocket, especially if they are participating in something that they don't have a lot of knowledge about, in this case, it's horse racing.

I very much agree with you, me personally have known horse racing for ages though, but I must agree that horse racing has never, and will never be as interesting as sports like football, football is a sports that is globally accepted and enjoyed by almost everyone, and the fact that we ourselves can even play football with our friends and families in our localities even make watching top stars playing the game much more fun.

For horse racing, its just about watching the tournament which doesn't even hold frequently, there are no horses around for us to practice horse racing, maybe if there were horse around for us to practice horse racing the same way we practice playing football with our friend, then maybe, just maybe horse racing would have been just as interesting as football is..

The underlined word in context is interest. Many of the countries where gambling exist, there is at least active presence of the games or sports being placed a bet on. Like horse racing, many countries keep horses for fun or just preserving a long old culture of horse raising and breeding.  Horse racing to them might require more economic commitment that may not be profitable in the end for lack of patrons or patronizers.
Soccer on the other hand is more universal in adoption and style and no matter the variations that have come into existence, horse racing can't beat the pure idea and fun of the soccer leagues and ease at which it engages an individual whether mentally, physically or financially in the act of betting. I could literally bet on teams I know more players in to win compared to placing a bet on a horse that I neither know how to ride nor can identify its breed or masters or the trainer in charge of its service and performance.

As far as I am concerned there is actually a big market for horse racing, but we do not see it much around here because people who are dedicated to it are within a category I would call "old school", in terms of gambling.

It is one of those sports or activities you need to be very into and investigate in order to bet or partake in it. It is like other less popular sports, like golf or even chess, they have not have so many fans as basketball, football or baseball have, but their fan-base is very dedicated for them to continue to survive the passing of the time. Here in my country is possible to bet on horses but it is not something I would expect a 20 year old gambler to do, on the other hand, my grand father used to.

In the northern part of my country we use to host seasonal horse racing and this is mostly done during Salah season where the Muslim royals will be available to make some festive competition and these completions have a high chance of participation,  but that is only to those who are interested in such games.

So I can say horse racing is a segregated activity in my region and at that, we must have to accept the fact that animal games have become an isolated game and unpopular lately.

After?
St Leger course was established in 1776 and it's still ran even today, the Epsom derby in 1780, football rules were first established in 1863 .
Which one is the "new" sport?

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Seems like all three of us were wrong, 1mbtc is not enough!
I opened a prediction game in the games and rounds and I have a 0:50 views to participation conversion rate.

It's either that the sub-forum doesn't get that much exposure or 1 mbtc is not enough to pick six of names!
Or is everyone here too rich to take a chance for 1mbtc, we're all whales of betstreet here?

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I think people like simplicity and being able to predict an outcome. If you have a football match, there is usually just a 50/50 chance one of the teams will win and there will be a corresponding odds payout for who is predicted to be the winner. I'm sure most people who have been gambling for a while have "dabbled" in horse racing, maybe won their first bet or two out of sheer luck, but once you've placed 3 or 5 bets you start to realize that it can feel very random trying to pick the winner out of 10 horses. The odds payout look absolutely amazing, get 10 or 50 times your money back?? But no, the chances of picking the winner or staging your bets in a profitable way is beyond the reach of the average gambler, so they stay clear.

I think this has something to do with mutualism of interest and culture. Not all countries are having place for horses which makes sense that it will have limited popularity. This is the same as with cockfighting and other gambling games which has an origin. The fact that most of us are familiar with traditional gambling games, then it would make sense for such games to have more players. Also with interest itself; we cannot control other players to play games we are playing 'coz we have different preferences. Some are into what's usual and some are not. For sure there are other gambling games which has a country of origin and are not recognized by us 'coz we have different culture and tradition in the first place.

The complication begins with the fact that I have no past experience and as I have never seen any horse race or know the rules of the game, also the betting scenario, I am unable to understand what is going on with this. How do I know which one is going to be my best pick and how that horse will perform? In my country, there are no such events where they hold horse racing. It is also hard to find information or know the rules if you have no hands-on experience.

In simple words, it is unpopular here and I have no interest in it. There are other popular games that are way easy to follow and you can enjoy them quite well. So that's from my end. This is the reason why I'm not interested in horse racing.

Tradition may play a vital role on why a sports became famous so maybe this is one of the factor why horse racing is not so familiar. Majority of people is commonly hook with ball games and this is always features on national television that's the reason why horse racing got less exposure to people. Also not all can adopt the culture of horse racing places since there are group of people doesn't like this since for them its animal cruelty or abuse.

Horse riding is indeed one of the olden days sport we enjoyed back then but there's less development in this today due to some reasons beyond our understanding as to why, we can see the performance of football among other sports booming unlike horse riding, this same experience is what transpired even to the gambling organizations that most of them don't have house riding as part of their games they enlist on their casinos.

In my country horse race game is very popular the same with cockfighting and as the same with it there's a winner option but the odds right here is will depend on the popularity of the horse, reputation and of course if there's an underdog like the usual match, and the number of wages will now depends on the horse they bet, that's the concept I've known with here, but due to this pandemic and mass gathering is one of the issues we facing which is the prevention of it and now its not become popular even in the gambling casino I've never seen this they are just adopting the known games in the casino itself and not in the field itself.

It's not only about the casinos trying to catch the attention of gamblers towards the sport, it's that the sport isn't played in most of the regions. That is basically the reason why most bettors have no interest in horse racing because they don't know the game as it is not played in their region at all, and when you have never in your life watched a sport, don't have any knowledge and experience about it, you can barely be interested in it, betting is a very far thing.

The reason why football, hockey, or other sports are so popular throughout the world is that they are played on a local level as well, so the players or people who watch them play also take an interest in the games played on an international level and they tend to make bets on the games because of that.

Things in the world have changed, and horses and horse racing are considered animal abuse because those who did these practices often did not even feed their animals well, they put hormones into them that made them change the normal balance of a horse so that they could give up, then these things as well as being hit, and they can do other types of things because they are not adequate according to the standards to be considered as animal abuse and as it is with betting, because things get worse, because Surely they review the conditions in which they have the horses and no, they determined that, like cockfighting, this is considered so.

Same with cock fighting and other gambling activities involving animals, lots of people are now aren't too comfortable supporting these gambling games. It's already considered animal abuse and I don't think that it would be fair that while we're enjoying, lots of animals are suffering. However, it's just a normal thing for the supporters of this game but if there were other gambling games or sports betting to enjoy, better pick them in my own opinion. Also, it's hard to analyze and have proper basis on where to be when it comes to horse racing because they're really unpredictable and be can also rely our decisions on the available data and statistics even if we do a deep research about their game history.

Nope, we can't compare horse racing with other animal sports because by default, horses are runners for life, that's what they do either by themselves or we make them do it, it would have been categorized as animal abuse if there is a horse fighting sport.

Also using any form of drug to improve the speed of horses can be considered an abuse too, but horses are born to race, it's in their nature, the thing with horse racing is that people just lose interest in them, they are old sport and no one want to leave Golf or Soccer for horse racing.

I won't say that horse racing is dying but lack of interest is increasing, in 2020 horse racing industry lost over five billions of dollars compare to past years, the popularity is declining.

Do you also know that horse racing also gained bad reputation for drug use? In 2021 the Derby Horse winner aka Medina Spirit was tested positive for performance enhancing drugs, the trainer was banned at the time, This form of abuse can be dealt with but the interest in this sport is the major problem.

This sort of stuff is quite common in the horse racing world to be honest with you. So many trainers act as double agents for various businessmen in order to try and earn more money here and there.

Popularity of the sport might have decreased, but it will never disappear and this illegal crap will never disappear either.

Horse racing was cool back in the days but not anymore, I read online that the decline of such sport began in the year 2011, that's a very long time ago, it was already predicted that betting on horse racing would see a major decline, by now the horse race betting interest have already decline up to 30% if not more.

The sport have failed to keep up with other sports like volley, basketball, soccer, tennis and others, the truth is horse racing isn't modern type of gambling and the competition already outpace many attempts of horse racing bets companies.

We all love horse racing, in the 90s I prefer watching movies that have horses in them, that's why I get so much love for cowboy movies, Clint Eastwood for example, people like OP still believes that horse racing rocks, that's no lie, today,  many people believe that horse racing can be saved if bring into the modern age but sadly, many believe it's still too old fashioned, and this my friend is where I belong.  

Personally, if there be any form of ancient sports to bring back, it can be any other, but not horse racing, lets not forget that the world we live in is advancing rapidly in terms of technology, and with the kind of people we have in this generation today, what ever is abandoned is abandoned for good, horse racing is completely outdated and I don't see how that can ever come into play in this generation again, and even to make the chances of a come back slim, is the fact that Horse are no longer as common as they used to be in the 90s..

And like I mentioned in my previous comment, Horse racing was pretty common in the 90s and earlier because horses were pretty common back then, aside watching the sports on tv, several homes had a horse or two which they could practice what they saw on tv with, but today, horses have completely gone obsolete, they are now very expensive and only the super rich in the society can afford to buy it, this is more reason why horse racing may never return.   

Alright, so you're suggesting that because horses naturally love to run, racing them is just catering to their innate desires. Hmm, by that logic, we should probably start competitive eating championships for Labradors. They love to eat, right? Jokes aside, I get where you're coming from.

Its undeniable that the modern world, with its ever-changing interests, poses challenges for older sports like horse racing. The gambling industry is vast, and for horse racing to keep its stake (pun intended), it has to adapt. The likes of poker, slots, and sports betting have seen innovations. Why cant horse racing?

As for the unfortunate drug incidents, those are indeed stains on the sport's reputation. But every cloud has a silver lining. Such instances shine a light on areas that need stricter regulation, ensuring a brighter future. However, to really tackle the issue of dwindling interest, the industry must look at redefining the experience it offers its patrons.

Perhaps it's just that they're not really that familiar with it at all. Even I will take the chance if I have the time to spare. 1mbtc is still something that adds up eventually if you have them stacked. I guess, it's better to post that prediction game someplace else, or do an introduction here linking that Games and Rounds post to a one here in Gambling Discussion. Or you can place it on your personal text if you really want it to get noticed.

There are several factors that cause a decline in the interest of most people in horse racing and in the current era more people choose sports such as Football, Cricket, Basketball, Tennis and also Esports to use as a betting option and can provide entertainment when watching them because in Some of these types have been loved by almost everyone in the world and are often the subject of hot discussion.
Moreover horse racing is no longer a trend and there are only a few countries that have this type of sport and quite a few countries also prohibit horse racing because they think it is very torturous to animals.

Due to the increasingly rapid development of the times it seems difficult for horse racing to grow again and be loved by many people again like it was a few years ago when it was still in the 90s.

Well now things are very Different From the 90s, I think the Biggest Reason why the rise of Horse racing has been its decision to defend animals, animal protectors detected that animals are being very mistreated by their owners, or by their children, that this was not the way to treat them so that they would perform, it is fine for an Animal to receive Training to do a type of activity, but not under a scheme that is entirely aimed at violence, for that it is not done in a very traumatic way, then this is what management really is, I think they are partly right, one cannot admit that an animal is treated badly, I don't know but at least I don't see it as correct, a animal Cannot Speak it cannot Defend itself, then these things are what make anyone feel bad, that is also why cockfights have decreased, and Although they are completely different Things, things when it comes to animals are now very delicate.

When I was at the U , I knew that many friends liked to bet, and they went to places where these competitions were held and they really bet hard on horses, the truth is I never did it, because I was more focused on studying than making money , but that experience would have been great, what I didn't know well and I think I had said it in a previous post is that the horses treated them so badly, that is something that should not be, a person, an animal that treats itself badly because it is not the idea, because that way it doesn't work, it doesn't work, it can't even do the right thing, because violence against an animal or person can cause trauma, it can take away their self-esteem, it can generate many problems, sometimes animals suffer from these types of things too. Because really, when things are focused in that sense, bad things are created in the Behavior of the animal, maybe the horses were starting to die or something, the food was not adequate, because these things are what make them bad. and considered abuse.

You never can say whose interest you may revive until you try a reward thing. Cash reward will wake up interest and get you more participants in the horse racing prediction thread. It will catch interest quickly if you can get regular competitions and also reward top beters who get the predictions right. Horse racing is an elite sport, the same with golf. Not many can afford a horse for such competition and that can be a reason why interest in it is dying off. We do not get to see them regularly aired as we see games in football, basketball or tennis. I used to enjoy watching horse racing on television as a kid until I discovered it was no longer getting regular airtime as before. Your suggestion to revive interest in this sport is good.

The odds of horse race betting look alluring but anyone who has participated in a few races will tell you they are often won by sheer luck. There may be strategies to skim a profit, especially when making use of the many offers available out there on a regular basis, but it's probably not worth the effort at the lower levels. I remember first stumbling across them and got a bit carried away with the massive odds, then quickly realized that it'sm completely random, especially when you're looking at races with 20 horses in them. I don't see the effort of you creating a forum only pool of horse betting would be worth it, there are already way better odds out there than you could hope to provide and most of the money would follow those top predictions anyway.

When I used to play the horses say 1970 to 1990 I must have seen 20 horses or more break a leg and be put down. I also saw a jockey get killed at Belmont racetrack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Venezia


Also saw Julie Krone get stomped on her chest and almost die.

She never road as well as she did before that accident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Krone

She was a beast of a rider back in her first few years.

"She made her debut as a jockey on Jan. 30, 1981, at Tampa Bay Downs in Florida, on a horse named Tiny Star. She won her first race on Feb. 12, 1981, also at Tampa Bay Downs, aboard Lord Farkle. Within a few years, her success made her a well-known racing personality. Krone was the only woman to win riding championships at Belmont Park, Gulfstream Park, Monmouth Park, The Meadowlands and Atlantic City Race Course. She would go on to make appearances on The Late Show with David Letterman, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, and appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated for the issue of May 22, 1989, one of only eight jockeys so recognized (the others are Willie Shoemaker, Bill Hartack, Eddie Arcaro, Johnny Longden, John Sellers, Robyn Smith and Steve Cauthen). In 1993 she received an ESPY Award as Female Athlete of the Year"

I think people won't bet because of this clip on YouTube being true.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RAPIlytbzs

which the whole clip

Marketing in the forum would be helpful indeed but it is not going to be enough, now, if you are worried about too much shitposting, you can self-moderate the thread which will take you some more work, but also allow for a better control and more focused business thread. However, you should be counting on promoting the activity, just a post is not going to be enough I think.

Honestly, I do not have much trust in horse racing. Perhaps this is due to a tradition of portraying horse races as easily manipulated. But I also do not trust anything that thinks for itself. Gambling is meant to be a pure chance game. With animals, there is a pseudo-chance game since animals can be manipulated in many ways, including drugs and training.

It seems like putting your money on a pre-decided race even though I'm sure there are strict regulations and I am just being paranoid.

Most sports are fixable and lots of fixing happens.

Gambling on sports is meh. I was a long time horse player glad to have stopped playing.

Most sports have a lot fixing.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/35319202

tennis is listed above.

Horse racing is so unpopular due to the fact that not many people have the idea of how to ride a horses because the fear of riding a horse could limit people demand for the game most especially when you have to play them I a physical casino where you must ride the horse in the real sense of it,  most of the time because of the dislike for this game in physical casino or game field.

It has made many gamblers to also avoid horse racing in online casinos and this has been one of the major recorded limitations that has been recorded over time.

For me horse racing is not very popular because of modern high technology nowadays and also some country which is only few people have horses so they can't participate or they can't make and event such horse racing. But actually there are still countries who has the activity of horse racing but not too much popular. Maybe  some people didn't know that there's a horses racing or else they don't want to see it.

The unavailability of horses also have limited the popularity of horse racing,  when I saw this game last was when I was young that my local communities use to organise festivities and games and one of the most played games then was horse race and most times some of the horse owners will even avoid participating in the game due to the impact of the game on they animals and what the level of damage will be for them if they horses sustain injury in the causes of the games?

This and many more have contributes to unpopular nature of horse racing both in offline and online casinos,  because before an online casino will consider developing any game on their site,  they first of all check to see how gamblers patronise them in a physical casino first.

Hmm, that's actually quite interesting from the view you pointed it  because I never actually thought of it from this angle and truly like you said times have definitely changed but I don't actually know if that's actually the major reason for the unpopularity of the sport because unlike cockfighting horse race I think it's still quite seen differently because cockfighting involves the two animal getting to kill one another but for the horse it's a simple race between the horses just as we humans also race among ourselves.

There are far more sports betting that is more interesting than horse racing.  We have boxing, MMA, football, and many others that capture the peoples' interest.  I myself don't find horse racing interesting because there is no plot or drama behind this sport unlike in boxing and other sports that tends to create controversies and dramas that take the interest of many people.

Dude I stopped playing them years ago because I was gambling compulsively. But if you pick a horse and it comes from dead last on the far far far outside to win by an inch you will have a very nice rush.

More so than most sports as most hits in the last minute are more common than winning the race I just  described

Very much agree wit you, I've said it before that horse racing is an outdated form of sports, most especially for the fact that horses themselves are no longer common this days for we to even play around with.

A supposed game people themselves can not play or practice always loses people's interest fast, remember when horses were still very common, horse racing was a very interesting game back then, but immediately horses began to become scarce, horse racing as a game also began to loose it's relevance in our societies.

I used to work in a casino in 2002-2005 and horse racing was so popular there at Eurobet casino where I used to work.People loved to bet on horse racing but in order to do so and since the online presence was not big at that time we used to put posters of odds and times of the horse races.Of course they were not as popular as soccer betting but people kept betting a lot also there.

Now back to your post,I think that there should be a few individuals here who may still love horse racing but the fact is that the people who really love it they go and bet live in the field where races are held.

The problem I think here is that it's really unattractive compared to similar games for newbies. I myself don't really understand the rules that appear in horse racing, but I also have no intention of researching and finding ways to bet on it. Depending on the local element, I think it is like some games that rarely appear on services. But if I used it now, I would still choose another game to watch and not like the chaos or drama of horse racing.

It requires skill, which automatically rules out 99.9% of this forum. No offence.

Though your right by what you said when it comes to it physical gambling, those that will bet on horse riding have to be experienced in it, however when we consider the online gambling on horse riding as well which requires no experience, we don't also have much fans into this because it's not one of the present century games gamblers had love to play, most of the horse riding bets played now are virtual bets and not live match from the casinos and gaming stations, we can notice that there are many factors that affects this category of gambling to be less accepted by most gamblers.

If we base on actual game then we can say that it will need more practice and more patience to do that as we all know that how hard to ride a horse and as we think that it's more harder if it is on racing cause you need to command the horse to run faster as he can in order to win the competition. Anyway in online gambling there's a machine you can bet on horse racing actually here in my country before there are many machines who support horse racing but it's illegal once get caught then years of imprisonment will weaving .

Games that are directly played by humans are more attractive. For example scorer, cricket, basketball and many other sports but the sports that are conducted with animals have less interest. In this regard Horse racing face the same problem but we have to say that this is also popular sport but this sport is not seen regularly because people have less interest on it. If more events can be managed I think the number of spectators will increase as well as the gamblers will take the sports positively.

Interesting thing to point out, mate.
It is easier to relate and grow fond of a football player or a baseball star than it is to follow the career of a horse or any other sport animal, though, there is still people who do it gladly.

It may have something to do with the fact a horse cannot express itself as a person can; we follow Messi not only for his performance in football, but also because the rest of his life which he is willing to share with his following base.

you do not need to be able to ride a horse to bet on it.

I think horse racing is slowing up due to the resources needed to raise horses. Land Land and more land is needed. Belmont Race track in New York has at least a hundred acres of land.
Aqueduct IN New York has 100 acres of land
Saratoga has 200 acres of land

they rotate and used to shut down. Now they have casino's so the land is not wasted.

Running such a prediction game would attract users to take part in that game only and they won't really go deeper into horse racing thing at all. Most of them would take part in order to with the prize of the prediction contest but they won't get any interest into horse racing or betting on horse racing games.

Yes, that would be more than enough for the users of the forum to open a few links in order to increase their chances of winning the prize. There can be some chances that a few players might get some interest in horse racing if you run such games for more than 6 months.

Well, I'm not someone who gambles on horse racing games but I tried horse racing games a few times in past with lost bets only. I don't really remember those but I placed bets based on odds rather than doing my own research. If you have understanding of horse racing games then you may share your bets so that other may also get interest into such games.

I used to bet on horse racing before and it's really fun to watch and it's heart wrenching you actually see this horse run in front of you. Not really sure though, maybe it's the odds or the profit margin? Although in Middle East and Australia it's very popular, or maybe the notion that horse racing can be fix. After all, the jockey is the one controlling this magnificent animals and so if they will slack obviously the horse will not run faster.

I have to take a look at my PM as there was someone who also says that he wants to have this kind of prediction game.

Edit: the user that PM me is no longer active, and it's way back 2018.  :)

The reason why it's not that much of attractive or people don't it interesting is because it's not very popular all around the world and it's only played in some regions and the spectators of the game are mostly the ones who have always liked horses and stuff like that which has made them interested in the game. Those who like sports but don't have any interest in animals such as horses will barely find the game interesting or be willing to make bets on it.

It is also not a very easy-to-understand game in my opinion, you can't do much research about a horse or the rider and decide whether it will win a match or not since they are not always so popular so that you can find stats and information about them everywhere online just like football and famous players.

Not that popular? Then how's this.

Global Horse Racing Market Size to Surpass $793.9 Bn Growth by 2030, Exhibit a CAGR of 8.89% | Equestrian Industry Analysis, Comprehensive Study
and this one
The global horse racing market size was valued at USD 402.3 Billion in 2022 and is expected to reach USD 793.9 Billion

Source: Link (https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2023/04/04/2640319/0/en/Global-Horse-Racing-Market-Size-to-Surpass-793-9-Bn-Growth-by-2030-Exhibit-a-CAGR-of-8-89-Equestrian-Industry-Analysis-Comprehensive-Study.html)

It might not really be that much in included on most talks or mentioned sports but it is really generating that
billions of market size which its not really that something that a joke amount or demand.

Man....I'd have to strongly agree with those who say cockfighting is animal abuse, because there's definitely intent to injure animals that otherwise wouldn't be.  But horse racing?  I think that's stretching the definition of abuse pretty damn far. 

You know the US made a postage stamp a long time ago commemorating horse racing?  It's true:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/03/P7lHW.jpeg

That was back in 1974 of course, and attitudes have shifted a lot about many things since then, but there's no way in hell the US or any civilized country would create a stamp with two birds trying to slaughter each other.  Can you imagine?  The people who raise those racing horses don't want to see them get hurt, not on the track, not off of it.  Ugh.

Horse racing is a nice sports but in times of popularity they  are not much popular because there other sports like football, basketball Gulf and many more other sports that has the Interest of people, I don't no why must people doesn't have much interest on horse racing or maybe perhaps is because of the risk involved were as someone could easily get or injured while racing using the horse, and also it takes more time to learn horse racing, because to me is seem more difficult to learn than football, the most popular sports is Soccer and everyone is more interested on the soccer based on one reason or other even me my best sports is soccer.

Horse racing is truly an exclusively elite sport and the passion for horse racing, it seems to me, is typical of people who really love animals, in this casec horses.  Even in. the countries of the Middle East, many people are also keen on camel racing.  And I can’t even remember what other animals under human control compete in speed or endurance.  Probably somewhere in the Indian provinces there are still competitions with the participation of elephants, but in my  opinion these are some kind of games, but not speed races.  I repeat, the effective winner of such competitions can only be a rider who understands the animal well, his horse or camel, or perhaps an elephant.  And the animal must also trust the jockey, get used to him in order to compete on equal terms with other athletes.  And of course, football eclipses any other competition with its massive participation.  All you need for it is a team of professional football players, a football field, a pair of goals and a ball!  :)
That's all.  And horses are quite difficult and expensive to maintain.  So horse racing is a very expensive sport, an d therefore it is an elite sport.

Yes, as we can see, most of the forum community only likes to discuss the sports you mentioned above, not horse racing. Maybe there are those who are interested in betting on horse racing but they don't discuss it much here, even though what OP meant was just providing a little new input and discussion on the gambling board, that doesn't mean horse racing is like the old fashioned bets. Most of them bet directly at the horse racing venue, a kind of offline betting for gambling. there compared to online casinos.

I also don't find too many casinos that support horse racing gambling because on average not many people understand gambling except football on this forum, I also don't really understand how to gamble on horse racing and the profits obtained there. Maybe I would like this thread. Also discusses horse racing betting in full so that it can be more popular, of course.  ;D

I never really had the opportunity to bet with horses, but I wanted to do it, when I studied at the U many did it, some won and were very lucky, other days they went and didn't win any, generally they gave it up. blame one of them for being a lump of salt, or a black cat, or all those references that help to highlight or characterize a person that they used to see who didn't have much luck, that's why they blamed him, something very funny indeed. , but they always did it, the truth is I don't know how many horses there are that participate, or rather how many riders, and what training the riders must receive, although it is not the other way around, because they are people who only have to resist the speed and that they hit the horse with a toy to make it go faster, I have never seen if there are many accidents of these, because if there are they are very dangerous, because it is very likely that they will kill themselves, because at that speed and falling to the ground can happen. It can be something deadly, so for the Jinittes it is usually something very dangerous, I think that for this de'prote you have to have a lot of concentration, a person who is afraid or whose concentration fails can make a mistake that cannot be forgiven.

I don't know how much animal abuse is given to one of these horses, but for these horses to perform in a race, they must have a special diet, a very good load of vitamins and they must have a very adequate diet so that Don't become very stupid and slow, this is what basically occurs to me, personally I like whatever has to do with animals, what I don't like is that they make them suffer or that they practically have to submit to acts that are not appropriate, as I have said, currently there are many rights that animals have, there are many and anything that is going to be done to an animal is denounceable and they will immediately be prosecuted and imprisoned.

I dont see any problems in regarding about horse racing or any other racing which it is really that involving animals unlike on that cockfighting which it is
really that fight to death and surprisingly there are people who do really make a bet on that. Making up some research about how many animals are really into sports or considered to
be that you could really be able to bet on and i found this.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/06/PqhuG.png
Link (https://www.rookieroad.com/sports-lists/list-of-animal-racing-sports-a-z/)

It is really just that among on the list Horse racing is really that quite known or really that popular compared to others.
Also its really that more interesting.It might not be heard that much on this forum but outside it does really have that
huge number of recognition.

I only bet on horse racing whenever I see other gamblers share their predictions on the best horse to pick in certain races. If i'm on my own, I probably wouldn't have the slightest interest in the sport, and i'm thankful they introduced me to horse racing, even if it's only for a short while.

If the prediction contest doesn't have a lot of requirements, then there's a possibility. It might be worth suggesting this sport for the next season of BSFL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438071.0), but it'll depend on the schedule of the next big event.

Maybe if we are going back to take the statistics of games that we play more often both now and in the past, we could see that there's a large number of them that aren't listed on the casinos games again because they are not trending as with this present and modern gambling technology, if we the gamblers aren't having much interest on these games, then why should the casinos enlist them since they are to serve us right, every available casino games were made available intentionally on a specific reason that they are part of the most trending gambling games that quickly attract the interest of gambling, in this case, i think horse racing shouldn't be the only one to be considered, but other games as well which are not invoke as before.

- It is inevitable that there will be shitposts and quota filling based on your judgement if you make one prediction game.

- I think so that's enough as long as there will be a prize, there will be interest on it and no matter how much it would be, as long as it's free.

- I have seen discussions before it and even an ann thread that's all about horse racing, I just can't recall it. So there are real ones.

The unavailability of a particular game on the casino is not and can not mean that the game is unpopular since gambling is not limited to online casinos alone because we still have many old gambling games that may only be listed on the traditional physical casinos,  like in the case of horse racing,  cockfighting and the rest.

These are all games that are popular in real life but are not listed on casinos that we know or are popular and this may be due to one reason or the other,  but I suspect that it will be as a result of low patronage from players in it been implemented too.

I get your point here mate, gambling is a general event we all get entertained with, also, we can consider some games as the trending ones while others as not, just as you can see that in gambling today, we are having the sport betting gamblers as the most populated gamblers in the sector, who knows maybe it's because it is the most recognized sport event and the reason being also a live event that looks more real and trusted, though this doesn't mean everyone fall under this same category but we have the majority in it, how many people are that interested in horse riding, horse racing and horse gambling.

Actually, the unavailability of a particular game at the most popular and widely used casino and sportsbooks does mean that the game isn't popular on a global scale because casino platforms don't entertain games and sports that are played on a local scale but they only add games and sports that are followed and liked by a global audience just like football, cricket, tennis, boxing, a bunch of other sports that are played and liked by people globally.

Both cockfighting and horse racing are not games or sports that are played in every region. Cockfighting is only popular in a few countries, the Philippines is one of them, and if we talk about horse racing, it's mainly played in the UK, the US, and Australia, other than these regions, the game isn't that popular.

Honestly, Horse racing is fairly niche even in real world. When it comes to spectators with respect to Soccer/football and other sports. Information about the horses aren't readily available unlike major sports. You have to be really into it or have access to facilities to look at the horses and their previous performances to have an idea about potential winners.

If you are looking purely from gambling perspective, there are better and accessible alternatives available like dice, slots, and a lot more of casino games. Horse racing is a rich old man sport (kinda like golf but even more niche when it comes to accessibility). While, most crypto gamblers are fairly young who have access to plathora of gambling options.

I'm sure there might be a few people interested in Horse racing and crypto but that's a fairly small percentage.

I agree with you on this because on a number of occasions, I have seen some games that are most popular in offline casinos but look unpopular in online crypto casinos and that is because of the dynamism of the market and how its sentiments work,  anyway, we need to outline that kind of games and to know how to manage the way we navigate between both class of games.

Horse ride is quite popular offline more than it is in inline casinos and this is not something we should debate about and this is not like sports bets that are available everywhere and popular among others.

Have to agree with the both of you, I could use my country as an example, I remember when I used to live in Lagos state, one of the biggest states here in Nigeria, Horse racing was, and I believe its still is a very popular game amongst the local casinos over there, gamblers could bet on the game both offline and online.

But then, I left Lagos state and relocated to the state where I currently live, and its as if I moved to an entirely new world when it comes to such games as horse racing, most people over here don't even know what horse racing is, aside from those that are hard core gamblers who have been gambling for years and have probably traveled different places.

So yeah, personally, I consider horse racing a classic or rather, a vintage game, some of old, basically, its a game that is mostly enjoyed by old forks, newer generation don't seem to enjoy such games anymore.

The popularity of sport will depends on your environment since what mostly introduce or what you is most provably the sports would provably catch your interest. Its just horse racing is not been introduce to us since the common sports we can see on free t.v is basketball,volleyball and football. Other than those sports is ignored by media since maybe their viewership is so low for covering horse racing and other not popular sports.

If you search it on good the result shows that its popular on certain country and US is included in the list maybe you didn't notice it there because the people near you is also not a horse racing fan. Horse racing is classic and up till now it still exist and for sure fans of this sports know some channels that covers the race.

The only people I have seen bet horse races are old people and I don't think that there's not a lot of people that's in this forum that has bet on one even if they say so, I really miss betting or at the least watching one because there's 2 spots in my city that I know of that hosts horse race bets, I see them on my commute back when I was still a highschool student and I can remember that almost always, it's the same people there that's watching and holding their tickets with their bets on it, now those 2 spots have been closed. Another one that I'd like to see hosted here besides horse race is cockfighting and dog race, they're pretty cool games to bet on too.

Yes that is right,  the availability of a game depend in the location of the person because there are some games that only exist on ground which as categorised as traditional games this games sometime only exist during festivities a d after then players will go back to the various life until next festivals before another rounds are held.

Those kinds of game may be popular only in such locations and at limited places onlike other popular gambling games that are popular all around the glob such as dice slot and the rest,  although horse race have achieved some level of popularity in recent time,  but more also still limited and unavailable on many online casinos.

Yeah you are correct, the popularity of sports totally depends on country or environment because people tend to focus more on the kind of sports they normally see and participate all there environment, for example were I come from horse racing does not attract people because it tend to be participated by the only people who has money and also with the belief that horse racing is risky that someone could easily get injured on the process.

So the dominant sports in my environment is soccer because of it popularity and it doesn't take much to start playing football, so however people tend to love more on the kind of sports they can even do themselves.

Its popularity pales in comparison to sports played by high-priced athletes. We are aware that the public always wants to witness something intriguing from individuals worth hundreds of millions of dollars. To this day, equestrian athletes have never made it into the top 10 list of the most expensive figures in the realm of sports.

Indeed, society requires evidence that those with high price tags can deliver the best contributions to their teams. Consequently, many of us prefer watching soccer over horse racing.

Moreover, soccer is more familiar compared to horse racing. A single ball is all that's needed for young children to engage in the game with a large group. In contrast, horse racing lacks familiarity with the masses due to the expensive horses and the requirement for more than two horses to create a competitive environment. This fact is corroborated by the numerous brands and sponsors flocking to popular sports like soccer, basketball, golf, Formula 1, or MotoGP.

The outcome will be known once we give it a shot. As long as the requirements to fulfill are easy, shitposting will persist.

I've never engaged in horse racing gambling, but there might still be someone in this forum who does, even if it's just one or two individuals.

Every games in gambling cannot be popular at the same time, we can be good at some and not on others, what is expected from us is to make our choice and focus on the best way we can enjoy it, even though it may not have to be with horse race because most of the casinos and gambling platforms don't have this on their list of supported games, but we can as well engage interest on related games with horses which are virtual and enjoy gambling.

Good thing that we do always have the option on whatever sport or thing that we are interested in.They might not really be that too popular but at least we do know that theyre here and existing.

It do really just turn out that there are really certain sports which is more than that popular than on the other which makes that other sports or things to be that covered and not really that something could be heard of but still there are people who do really engage on certain sports despite on not being that not populart. About horse racing then its really that still existing
which you could really be able to see on most sports betting site that lines been offered, it is really just that people are mostly that focused on basketball, football, boxing or MMA
and the rest would really be just that in second priority.

If you are a horse racing fan then you could really actually be able to bet out even thought its not really that something popular on crypto space
but there are corners of the world who do really loves on watching or seeing this sport and there are sayings that this is really that some of rich people sport. lol

There are many activities that are very unpopular and are quite successful outside, this is something that we must Accept , when casinos try to do something like bringing this to the casino, well, it is something that should be applauded, at least that sees that the casino cares about the best things so that they can be done or to Please the players , so one day I saw a casino with a demo mode of horse racing, but it was something like when video games were before , in a way very old-fashioned, and I don't Know what the Criteria was for Winning the horse , I don't remember if there was something provably fair involved or something like that , because they were done on a cadre basis, and what the person did was bet, and of course that's  It was a casino model , because I Think that in the end it did not happen because there was not much receptivity on the part of the Players in bitcontalk, so in this order of ideas we as players sometimes do not know how to see or appreciate well Where and why some Games come from. Strangers It seemed to me at the time to be a very strange game , but after everything I managed to understand that it was for the reason that things with horse racing were no longer working, nor did they need any more.

Casinos that try to Bring games like these, which are considered unpopular to a casino, can work, I don't see it, it is a lie of being able to do things well , since it is not enjoyed in the real world or it is so difficult find that type of activity, because it can take it more towards a digital environment where it can be enjoyed by all of us, but I think something, that when a casino is going to bring it to its platform, it should have a reference, something where the person who goes Let's play it then read and see that this game will be brought because of: xxxx and thus it specifies everything that is referred to that game, and I believe that this would cause a great positive impact, something that cannot be Denied is very good, it is also a special effort through the developers and Casino.

It is true that betting options such as horse racing are only popular with people in few countries or in the sense that horse racing is only popular sport in certain circles.
If we talk about the gambling industry these types of sports will be less competitive with sports matches that are more popular in each country such as football basketball or even esports matches.

Well, some time ago there seemed to be bit of heated discussion about virtual horse racing but still not many people are following developments in all this.
I don't think adding horse racing option would be big advantage for the casino and that the main reason not many casinos have it.

What's that virtual horse racing you're talking about? I think it's not as attractive as real horse racing. Most bettors prefer the authenticity of seeing real horses in action, even if it's just on TV. The trust that there's no rigging happening behind the scenes is a significant factor.

Some sports betting games, especially virtual ones, might not be as wise to create since people tend to stick with the originals, which are more popular and offer a genuine experience.

Though there can't be rigging in real horse racing, there is always the possibility of a match being fixed when there is a lot of money thrown on the table by fixers. This is in every sport, even if we know it or not because we can't always know what's happening behind the scenes. We often see the favorites losing certain games and matches, whether it's horse racing or any other sport. What we think is that something unfortunate happened and they lost, but who knows maybe it was fixed and we don't know it?

When we talk about virtual games, I think it all depends on the source if it can be trusted or not, and I don't really know if the service provider would get any benefit by rigging any game because they will obviously still get their fair share no matter who wins and loses as they charge their commission.

It's not unpopular just in here, the popularity of it has decreased over time in gambling in general. I am not certain why but it seems that other more appealing sports have just driven over it.
It used to be a thing and i remember my dad taking me to horse races, but at least i wouldn't be that interested to watch them run from tv. That would be just boring.

I am guessing that used to be more interesting when people still gathered together, and might be that people saw it as one of the sports that was harder to fix by mobs.
Also as people's awareness of animal rights is growing, they tend to watch less sports where animals are abused, or doped.

I read somewhere that the number of people gambling on horse racing has decreased over time because of a shift in interest toward other games offered by casinos. I can't recall the exact driving force, but I'm certain it's linked to the current lack of interest.

I've never played it myself, but I do watch it occasionally.

How do you think horse racing can regain its popularity?
Well, I think your idea could work. We don't know how it will turn out but I think it's worth a shot.

Horses themselves are not popular these days as they are not often seen, they were more popular during the polo game and I can't remember how popular that particular field game is now. But for horse race talking about the virtual side of it, it is in the place of casinos to increase the availability of horse games. Gamblers don't necessarily have to be interested with a particular game before it is made available because a gambler can easily try new games. So the casinos are to begin their own part to bring the horse race in our eyes by creating different bonuses for it.

Some of them literally died after a horse race, after they crossed the line and win, the horses suddenly will die. Of course, owning a horse race means you have tons of money in your pocket because having a stable and maintaining them is very different. And then you need to hire trainers too to look after your horse and make them tournament ready, so it's not easy and even if they are on a strict diet and given good nutrition, you just don't know. As I have said, they will suddenly collapsed and die and of course there goes your huge investment as well. I don't have any questions about those animal groups though. But there are certain society in our world that embraces this kind of horse racing.

This is correct, there’s an average of 1 to 2 horses died for every 1000 start according to stats which pretty significant since there’s always a risk of horse dying in every race while this tournament is not a death match unlike rooster.

This sports is only for rich due to the expenses which you mention. Owning a racing horse is much more expensive than owning a regular horse. Besides the expenses on food and vitamins. The amount of bet when lose is painful too that’s why this sports is not that popular anymore since this is more on a hobby not the typical gambling race.

I only know local horse though, and I would say that I was brought up by my father as this is one of the favorite sports he loves to bet when he was still alive and I still remember when I was a little boy him winning what we call Winner Take All (WTA).

I become addicted as well, like the in the early 2000 to like 2010.

However, when our government started to crack down illegal horse betting, then me and my friends started to slow down and suddenly we just stop. So I haven't bet for a while while although I will still some in my facebook friends on how it is going. Specially around Christmas time, there are a lot of special races to bet.

But I'm not sure if others as well are into horse racing here, and I could speculate that maybe a few might want to bet on it.

Not much. Today we can only see horse racing on TV. This is the age of cars already, not many horses but this seems to be a rich man's vice. Today only the rich men do have eyes for which horse might win or not. There was never a horse in my town. I couldn't remember if there ever was a local racehorse event in our city.

There is a ranch nearby but their horses are just staying inside their ranch and it's used to chase the cattle. What every city has today are illegal drag race.

We all know horse racing is great, but it has its dark sides, okay? We've seen the best horses lose abruptly. Why? Some call it luck, but we know there's more to it, don't we? Match fixing is not new; it's prevalent in all sports, not just horse racing. The problem is huge and often hard to perceive, but we know it exists

Virtual games are different, extremely different. Can we trust them? Maybe. This is true: source matters. Rigging is about drama, spectacle, and show, not just profit! They make a spectacle, people gossip, gamble, and want to beat the system, and the service provider laughs all the way to the bank. As weird as it sounds, crazier things have happened in gambling

People do not place bet on horse because horse sport is not popular in their countries. Personally I have not seen horse in real life one than once. It was a Muslim man brought it to the festival from the Northern part of the country and everyone was amazed of seen the horse. And since that time and f 2013 till now I have not seen a house. If they were many in my locality and Athletics use it to race their games then people would have watched the sports in physical life and would have the interest to gamble as it is done with football, boxing, car race canoe race and others. Horse is race is only popular in just a few countries. Horse race in real life will be interested.

Horse racing is am unpopular games for so many reasons ranging from unavailability of horse, cost of horse, interest of fans, animal law etc. Although horse racing might not be that expensive but it is not supported in some regions. Many time, horse racing in mostly done in the rural areas where there is plantation and animal rearing. Even in most popular casinos, horse racing are not mostly available except for virtual horse racing which winners are mostly regulated and determined buy the programmers that developed the app.

This sport is really indeed for the rich but speaking about being a bettor then we know that everyone could really be able to bet but this isnt something that could really be that same as popular comparing to Basketball or Football but it is indeed having that own market or set of fans or into those people who are engaged into it. We do know that this isnt really that a cheap sport for those people who are really that a fan of it but for me it is really that something not that interesting for any race type kind of betting. So far basing up and seeing into this forum then i dont see that much interest for horse racing but pretty sure on some market then it is something that have its own user base.

This question got stuck in my mind and floated when I saw this thread of mbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260503.0). They are the first crypto racebook and yeat, since 2020 when this thread was created, it only achieved 6 pages of discussion and not more. I don't know how well does that translate into the actual popularity of racebook on mbet.io but the fact is, it somehow doesn't attract people on this forum.

Yeah!  It's true that there really isn't much discussion on this topic. 
But it is worth considering a few main points why here on our forum this topic does not enjoy such active interest among forum users. 
First of all, as noted above, this is a fairly expensive sport and participation in it is available to very few people in general and forum users too, of course. 
Also, in order to show a sincere interest in this sport, you need to love animals, which is generally not typical for a very large number of people. 
And probably fans of this sport also need to be raised from early childhood by parents who themselves became interested in this type of sport, which of course should still be classified as an elite sport.  That is, it is actually distributed exclusively in limited groups of the population.  And for example, with people’s interest in football, where all the costs, the cost of equipment, is just the cost of a ball and a pair of goals with a net, or even withuut a net, it is simply impossible to compare. 
Therefore, the interest of users here on our forum is small. 
Therefore, the topics on this topic are quite short.

Horse racing is expensive, and there is no unavailability of horses but it is just the expenses that everyone can't bear that don't make everyone interested in taking part in the sport, and as said by someone earlier in this thread, it's not only about buying or raising a horse, you will need to take care of its diet, its training, and a bunch of other things if you want it to be able to compete in a horse racing competition because you can't just take a normal horse and go racing with it.

It's not just done in rural areas but it's done in the country sides in regions where there are fancy countries outside of the urban areas or the main city, and that is because horses are raised and kept in such places and the race tracks are also created there. You can barely find a horse racing track within an urbanized area.

This is quite interesting, the truth is I didn't know there was so much behind these races, of course one can see things from the point of view of the tip of the Iceberg, and it is something that is completely understandable if it happens or not, but when we do a kind of outline about everything that it means to have those animals and everything that has to do with their maintenance and their way of seeing things when you have to take into consideration the reasons for this to happen, it's quite like that, , a stable, the owners of hair, the special food, in addition to this the veterinarians' cat, and above all what they have to consider for possible vaccines for animal diseases, apart from the riders who are going to ride them, all this is important It involves a lot of money, this is an expensive sport, which I imagine is that since all these types of things are done, sports betting based on horse racing is very complicated in that sense, for that reason we must see everything how it is formed, not only because this is now considered animal abuse, but because things also have to be seen from the point of view of investment, business model and the people who may be involved there.

I don't know, but I think this no longer exists, right? horse racing, apart from the fact that many see it as illegal, I think that things can go in another direction because that is what we see every day, now animals have many rights, and among that they can give as a good source that things should go in the legality of things, I personally would say that when it comes to how to do things well we have hair races 'but with the rules of the activists so that this does not die completely, which I do see is not What can be done is the fight of the Gauls, because no activist is going to allow an animal to die, because they don't see that well, because of these issues, sometimes some animals die.

Not really applicable for some. Me for example. Cock fighting and basketball are very popular here but I don't know on why I'm not hook on them just like the majority of my country men?

I also have a personality that don't follow the mainstream. Maybe that contributes to that. IDK if the OP is like me or he is simply living on a country where horse racing isn't as popular as the others. Another reason is maybe it was restricted there? As some animal sports like cock fighting are also illegal on most places/countries.

People on your country are too sensitive. They aren't the ones who will ride the horse anyway in terms of betting and horse players are professional to get injured easily. The horses that they ride, the tracks, etc.. are also being checked to ensure that everything will run smoothly. And it is like any other sport in the betting scene where a small amount of money is acceptable.

People nowadays are more focused on what is trending, and horse racing isn't as popular as before, or at least in my country or in this forum, compared to other games. Sometimes, it's about familiarity and interests. I, myself, am not familiar with horse racing or interested in betting on it simply because I like other games more, like dice. Horse racing is just like cockfighting; it's only popular in some countries because it's part of their culture.

 I strongly agree with you on this, that the popularity of sport depends on the environment, take for instance in country like India or the Pakistan the common and popular sport there is the cricket, people will want to bet on the sport they know best. Same applies to horse racing, countries like the Uk, Australia, Peru  Spain etc that accept the sport, they will probably be a platform where you can place your bet on your favorite horse. Horse racing has been there for quite some time now and betting usually goes down alongside with the game whether betting manually right there at the event or using gambling sites, some even do individual bets on which horse will finish the fastest.
  Horse racing is not so unpopular as it seems, they are some online gambling sites that allows horse racing, just because we don’t pay attention to them doesn’t mean the game is not played in other places, we are more focused on the televised games we are fortunate to watch. They’re countries where horse racing is taking as their main sport and for sure they will be gambling sites for people to place bet on their favorite horse and raider.

If you don't want to follow the crowd, that's fine. Individuals such as yourself who don't always do what everyone else does. I've seen it many times. It's special and one of a kind. Now, cockfighting and basketball are very popular in a lot of places. But not everyone has to love them. It's like online gambling; some people are into it, some aren't

You make a good point about horse racing and how famous (or not) it is in different countries. Very true. There are rules and regulations that are very important. Some countries are very strict about animal sports. There's more to it than just being sensitive. It has to do with morals, ethics, and ideals. But let's be very clear: professional horse players are pros who know what they're doing. These people don't get hurt easily, no. Everything is checked twice, including the tracks and the horses. Betting is a game, a very important game. And, as you said, a very small amount is fine

It happen because you are not interested on that sports. Even though media hype that sports because they always get a huge scope there are still people have their own preferences especially if they are exposed to that game rather than those what media always shown. That's why other sports exist just like what we see on Asian games where we see a lot of athletes playing on different category which is not displayed on the mainstream. Exposure on environment what can catch your interest and since to many people watch television they always see the top sports and love it.

Sometimes its good to ride with what is the current sport trend on your country since it make you feel updated to latest discussion related to that situations. Unlike if you just hate those sports and separate yourself to people discussing about it for sure you will not get good interactions with people around you.

They are not sensitive but rather doesn't really have interest of this sports, but who knows if there are popular name will show up and horse racing will gain a hype then this is the time we can see the horse industry booming in certain countries.

I think environmental factor is also a contributing factor to the popularity of a sport. Let us say for example, in a society where there are no horses, do you think the people there would pick interest in horse racing? the answer is definitely no because they have no access to horse and that would not even entice them rather than what they know that is common which is the normal soccer and other sports which can be easily made by man. Like in my country, you would hardly see horse on like other countries where you see horse so often and they  have access to it and therefore can do sport with it. So what I am trying to say is that people are very sensitive to the environment in which they belong and also tag along to satisfy their desire as well and when it comes to sport, same is applicable.

Even me now, I can't remember when last have witnessed horse riding or see people gambling on horse riding because it's no more as popular as it was then, things have been modernized and advanced and there's more interest on other sport games than horse riding, we also see that most of the gambling platforms don't have this kind of game for gamblers to bet bacause of it low rate of gamblers participation in it.

In some of the countries the horse racing was still legal one,because some of the gambling site had totally ban the horse race because of the animal was affected by the horse race.Some horse rider was injecting the drugs to the horse for the better performance.After the origin of the many online gambling sites,the horse racing interest on the gambler was oxidised over a period of time.Some people started the case for the usage f the animal in the gambling and also the gambler affecting huge by the financial loss by the game.

Well this might happen on underground gambling scene but on legal arenas for sure this injecting of performance chemicals to their horses is not happening. And we can't see those illegals been streamed by legit bookies since they always adopt those legal sports event for better audiences also revenues. Some might don't have an option to bet on horse racing but for sure there are some casino offering that and you can try to check the list on this link https://www.bitcoin.com/gambling/betting/horse-racing/

It may not be popular to other some people but for countries who think horse racing is a sport to them then they can go to those casino recommended on the site I link and they can bet there favorite jockey.

Indeed, in my area here in Nigeria, Horse race and Dog race used to be very popular sports to bet on till around 2015 or so, i remember a friend mine playing and winning some really nice amount of money from dog race at the time, he actually had a bet or two on both horse race and dog race, luckily for him, one of the bet on dog race paid off, he a won a nice sum of money, but like most addicted gamblers, he didn't do anything good with the money, he still spent everything playing the same games.

So yeah, this niche used to be very popular, but it's unfortunate, or should i say fortunate, that people have shifted their attention to modern sports like football and the likes, I personally never used to like any sports that involves animals after all.

That depends on the country, there's probably not a lot of horse racetrack in your country so it's not as popular or there's probably a lot of track but the betting would probably be needs your physical presence and given the current climate on animal rights, there's a lot of people on the Internet that are against any form of human entertainment that involves animals so they're  probably staying off online, if you actually know where to look for, you can probably find a television channel where you can find horseracing. For me, I only read about horseracing results on the sports section of the local tabloid.

When you talk about horse racing being unpopular you have to be specific,  in terms of what category of the game seems unpopular to you,  and also why have horse racing not being in physical casinos,  or its limited presence in physical casinos is because horse racing is not a game that you can easily organize and it work in a limited cycle,  no sometimes,  horse racing game can cover up to 20 to 10 miles and that requires a special route for the game,  this is the reason why most physical casinos don't list such games unless for clubs such golf.

But the online gambling sites have had a tremendous increase in terms of game designs that give the player a unique experience in both the virtual that make you get the same excitement as if you playing in the live games,  so that settles the issues of the unpopular of horse race to some extent.

Horse racing is basically a vintage sport, it was very popular back in the day when people used to take a lot of interest in the sport. I know that there are still regions where there is a lot of interest in the sport, but that's not the case everywhere because horse racing isn't as widespread nowadays as it used to be before. People are more into modern sports these days like football, cricket, tennis, baseball, boxing, and a lot of others that are loved by a global audience.

I believe this is the basic reason why there aren't a lot of people in the forum or around the globe these days who are interested in horse racing because they barely see or watch the sport, It's been years since I saw a horse racing competition on TV or anywhere on the internet, it's that rare nowadays.

The horse racing was famous in the old ancient times,but it was loss his importance because of the emergence of online gambling sites.Even the horse race like online games was in build in the gambling site itself.The online horse race will reduce the time for the gamblers,it also gives privacy to the gambling people.The online gambling sites help to secure the online gamblers from the society.So the win or loss of the gamblers will not around the world as the news.Most of the gamblers fear for the society at the time of loss,because they need to convey all set of family members and friends after the loss.The loss reasons to friends and family members because of regular gambling sites.

Yes I have read about horse race for long before even becoming a member of this forum and at some point why the game was popular in the ancient time is because then,  there was no online casinos to provide alternative to physical casinos also in the ancient time,  the rate of development was low in terms of infrustural development and this made it easy for the horse racers to have enough free land to conduct their tournaments freely without any interferences but things have changed now and such activities is becoming unpopular with many now migrating to online casinos.

Privacy is indeed one of the fundamental requirements to maintain a healthy gambling life,  and since horse races are becoming an online thing, privacy has indeed increased significantly

Even though horse racing is no longer as popular as it used to be in several countries this type of sport is still popular and is used as favorite sport.
One country that still has great enthusiasm for horse racing is England and Ireland although there are still several other countries from Europe.
Even the world horse racing championship is still active today it just that in gambling circles this sport is no longer very popular.

Most horse racing fans bet directly or place bets with bookie who accepts bets when a competition is taking place.
Moreover, those who bet on horse racing are usually people with quite fantastic wealth and who bet with fellow horse racing fans.

Horse racing still in some countries of the world horse racing is organized as a tradition of the country in noble old rural areas. But all those competitions do not get international recognition. Moreover, some of the competitions require large areas of horse racing which are very expensive and therefore horse racing is generally not desired by the authorities.

Some country still considered horse racing as their traditional activity,So they also import the horse from the Arabia,Persia for the same.In the ancient time,the horse racing was belong to the villages,after the civilisation the horse race was made in the most important cities during the colonisation of the country.After the country get independence from their colonisation,the most of countries made their own style of the horse racing.At the beginning it was origin for the entertainment;after later days the same horse race was mean for the gambling using the animals and huge money was involved in the horse race.

I have not really come across any gambling site that have listed horse racing before not to talk of those that have ban the games on they casinos,  this is because horse race is one of the most old popular games,  but the only problem with this game is that,  the physical event requires a lot of preparation and also need many manpower to guides and officiate the games at some point and as far as I know,  it much more of a local event than it is at an international scales may be fhat be the reason why those horse or other animal games are mostly unpopular in online casino.

horse racing is still somehow popular and legal in other countries. In our country, it indicates that approximately 65% of wagers of the community are related to racing particularly horse racing as this is the most popular. the statistics demonstrate the significant role that horse racing betting plays in our country's gambling culture making it an essential component of the industry. Some gamblers in our country engage in betting as a means to earn money, while others do it for leisure.

I came across this thread only today, sorry. But it was really interesting to read through it.


€100 billion annually? Wow! I didn't know about that!

As for your questions in the OP, I've never bet on horse racing before, but if it's free or you propose much better odds than anywhere else, why not, I would try my luck, I think.

My only worry is, what's in it for you? I'm afraid you'll be just losing your money, my friend.

Anyway, thanks for opening this topic! You've mentioned "shitposting" two times in your first post and it appears it helped to avoid that kind of behaviour here. :)

I have never watched or gambled on horse racing in my life, this is something I only know from movies. To me it seems that it's very different in other parts of the world and it depends a lot on the country you live in. In the biggest regional city near my hometown, we don't even have a race track for horses anymore, it got removed 20 years ago to build more houses. It's also very rare to see horses in my country, there are few people who keep them as pets and ride them for fun, but nothing competitive or professional. Same goes for sports like Polo, it's not common over here and people are also not interested anymore in betting on it. Maybe online this sport could attract more people, but I am a bit sceptic. At least for me I wouldn't start with horse gambling anytime soon. I prefer to bet on sports that I know and where I have an advantage, with horses I know nothing and I don't see myself becoming successful with it.

I come from a country, where horse racing isn't popular at all. I mean literally nobody gives a sh*t about horse racing where I live. :(
AFAIK, horse racing in popular in the anglo-saxon countries like the UK and USA. I don't know why. I don't mind betting on horse racing, but I just don't find it interesting. I can't predict which horse is better than the other horses and can't analyze the performance of the horses and their riders. I don't think that crypto casinos actively promoting horse race betting around the forum would change anything. This sport simply isn't popular in certain parts of the world.

As far as I know, Horse racing isn't that much a popular game after all, though here in my country, some local casinos used to make the game available to bettors, but right now, it's hard to find a casino to bet on horse racing, this simply means that the game is probably dying off little by little.

And what i do think is that, when horses were a pretty much always available commodity, the game of horse racing was pretty popular and one that was enjoyed by very many people all over the world, but today, horses have become very scarce, and pretty expensive for those who still have it, so instead of spending so much money to host horse racing games, people now refer to spend less to host even games that are more interesting than horse race, as we have a lot of options today when it comes to sports.

There are countries where horse racing is popular but there are many countries where horse racing is not popular and here in my country I belong to unpopular in actual game which means  that, casino and gambling site here in my country don't have that game. anyways some of my fellow countrymen invented a game which known as Karera and when you bet 1 bucks then you have a chance to win 100x or more when you win but sad to say it's hard to win that game.

Horse racing is only popular in certain areas and maybe they watch horse racing just for entertainment, horse racing is rarely used as betting because interest in horse racing gambling is very low, casinos need to assess the level of interest of gamblers for traditional sports because casinos have to pay development teams to add horse racing gambling. However, if interest in racing gambling is low then the casino has lost funds that could have been used for other costs to improve the security of the gambling system.

horse racing does not have the turnover bets that other sports have.

bet the one in the first race and you are done till the first race ends.

bet a basket ball game.

over and under each quarter.
point spread each quarter.

money line each quarter.

thats 12 bets.

half time score over under  money line thats three bets.

15 so far.

same three for final score we are at 18 bets.

next fantasy teams in basketball

you can have three players from one team and two from the other.

so one game can have many many many complex angles to the betting.

I think this hurts horse racing. As the two or three minute race does not command you time like a two hour basketball game does.

I don't think that the scarcity of the game has anything to do with the scarcity of horses, and horses aren't scarce at all, they can be found all around the world, and they are also not so expensive that the sport would start fading away because people can't afford to buy horses. I think it's just that the game was more ancient and vintage people and societies used to like watching the game and since there aren't a lot of people interested in being spectators, the game isn't played that much.

People these days are more interested in modern-day games like football, cricket, baseball, tennis, boxing, and a lot more that are played and liked on a global scale and there is high demand for these sports which is the reason why most countries are interested in having these games instead of those that are fading away with time.

Well, you sure have a point, and speaking of how expensive or not horse have become, let's just say that this probably depends on the region of country where one resides, and my comment saying that horses have become really scarce and expensive is purely based on the country i am from, over here in Nigeria, we don't come by horse like it used to be anymore, rich people today over here sometimes go to big places like the beach, and pay really high amount of money to be allowed to ride a horse around for a specific time, so horses over here are indeed expensive for those who have it now use it to make money for themselves.

But anyways, i understand the point you are coming from, and you are right anyway.

Despite the fact that horse racing is not that common as before, there are country, casino gambling platforms that still have this in serious consideration because they recognize it's values and acceptance within their own regional districts and will always want to have it among the supported sports to offer their people both in the entertainment aspect and the gambling aspects respectively, some still value horse riding till now.

In theory it is about knowing the game and the horses, but for real is a super-difficult game to make profit from. It is difficult to get enough good results in a systematic manner not to mention to have any advantage over the punters that are really well into the business. Anyway, I think is more popular with old people, that can spend a whole evening drinking and watching it.

In my country, horse racing betting is still one of the most popular forms of gambling. Just like cockfighting, the game itself is a history and is considered a tradition and rare; it is only limited. Horse race betting is a fun game. In the past, we also had a digital version of it called "video karera," or video race. You just bet by putting coins in the machine and choosing which horse to bet on. But it is considered illegal since it is a machine that even a young person could play. I'm one of them at a young age. I used to play "video karera." It was fun because all you needed was a coin and you would feel the thrill, but yeah, it is illegal as many people at a young age are exposed to gambling. Sadly video karera doesn't exist now but the real horse race still exist and still popular.

Well, it's not sure if they actually recognize the value of the sport or if they just see some benefit for themselves in it because casinos will always do things that will benefit them either in the short or long term be it adding a new sport for their bettors or providing bonuses and stuff for a certain game or sport just to lure in players from other platforms to them using those bonuses when they know the bonuses aren't going to cost them anything as the gamblers will eventually lose them back to them.

So, even though I don't accuse them of anything, I believe they must be seeing some demand for the sport among their gamblers or maybe within the region they are operating and that might be the reason why they are having the sport available for bettors so that if someone wants to make a bet, they don't go somewhere else.

Well, horse racing, unlike football and other forms of sports that involves humans, is one of the unpredictable games in the days of its rein.
Like today, football matches, and other forms of sports that invoiced human participation can be predicted easily depending on how well and time the gambler have spent in studying the players and teams in general, so outcome of such games can be easily predicted.

But for horse racing, and other animal games, this is difficult because animals don't have a long lifespan like we humans, so for the years such animal in involved in the sporting event, its not long enough for gamblers to build a clear statistics and performance ratio on them, which is what will aid gamblers in deciding which animal to bet on each time there is a game.

Im not really seeing the relevance about being a human or involving some animals which would really be indicating about its popularity.It is really just that purely just basing on the demand
and also you could really be able to see those animal cruelty kind of argument on some people on which they dont really like for it to see and i dont know about its relevance but i dont know
if it is really the reason.  So far we cant really be able to see discussions about this sport and its true that this is something a rich man kind of sport.
Well, lets just move on on what are the rankings,stick up into your preference because each does have that different market.

I see horse racing as a kind of expensive game which a lot of things that need to be put in proper consideration to have a horse racing track. I prefer to play online horse racing game just like playing bet on virtual games Which is more easier and convinient than looking for live horse racing tournaments to bet on. Everything is becoming digital now and very soon most games we will be betting on will be virtual rather than live games. Horse racing might not be so popular but it is a good game that can be interesting depending on the type and momentum.

Agree with this mate one thing for sure when a facilitator want to have a contest or a horse racing then it will consume more time and money as we all know that that they need to prepare the race tracks and money to organize everything they need. But I think that is worth it cause we all know there are many gamblers want to see that kind of games. And in additional for the owner of the horse they need to feed thier horses give some exercise everyday and vitamins so it's too expensive when you want to play in horse racing.

All of that can be handled by the owner since horse racing is their passion so for sure they just ignore those expenses but rather think about on how they can make their horses better and race ready. Horse racing is really a expensive sports that's why maybe some group of people cannot relate to this kind of sports since they can't afford to have those animals or even to pay some tickets on the race which cost provably a lot. Unlike those popular balling sports where its easy for them to market this since anyone is been hook since they can play it anywhere they want. But maybe if there's businessman that can able to handle this sports and find ways to have tv coverage on their build horse racing sport maybe we can see some changes and people might like to watch them.

It isn't worth it, that's the biggest problem. There aren't a lot of people who are interested in the game these days since the game is only famous in specific regions and even in those regions, you will barely see people heading to race courses to see horse races because it's an old and outdated game now, people are interested in modern sports and that is the reason why organizations don't want to waste any money on it if they know they can't get any profit in return and rather lose all the money.

It's not about the expenses, but it's all about the continuity of the game. The players who participate in the races would make themselves and their horses ready only if they know that there are races that they need to participate in, but since the sport is slowly fading away, players would obviously not do all that.

I don't actually gamble on horse racing but I've considered it a noble sports just as I consider golf. People make loads of money from this sports and if this could go mainstream, it will be an envy of games, consider it one of the games in the olympics and see how fast it spreads.
Because horses have been used in the medieval ages, people consider it an old game and want to be involved in sports that are more digitized. I guess its only popularity exists within the rurals where horses are commonly used.

        -  Here in our country, it seems like it's illegal now, but two decades ago, he was still operating legally, as far as I know. So now, I don't seem to hear any news about this kind of gambling in my country.

But there are a lot of people who are crazy about horse racing because the bet is big there, even though they have other horse racing games like Jai alai, which is also considered illegal gambling. But now that's not there, maybe someone else is operating somewhere else; that's why it's secret, of course. Then I also noticed that I don't see horse racing in online casinos like we do today in the crypto space as well.

Actually I can say with confidence that my parents loves to watch horse racing but they never had to chance to bet and I'm actually glad for this because horse racing is an elegant race that takes a lot from both the horse but also the rider.  ( worth to mention that my parents are almost 60 which means previous generation was way more attractive towards horse racing than the current generation ). Meanwhile , I don't like to watch any type of animal racing , not horses , not dogs , nothing because I do feel this races are most of the times rigged and I cannot trust them.  ;D ;D

There is also the fact that a lot of countries are considering animal races are illegal and some of them are fair to banned them.

Horse racing is a lovely game that we'll love to watch but sometimes the accident that do happens sometimes when the horses crash to the ground causing some of them to love their lives is what piss me up a lot. Horse racing is a good game but I don't like seeing accidents because I feel like it is not meant to be. I do gamble on horse racing but it is mostly virtual game since I find it difficult to bet on live game. I would love to bet on live games but the casinos I make use do not have an option for live horse racing which is one of the reason why I do switch to Virtual betting.

 There’s is no sports where accidents does not occur, even in the football that we most enjoy accident do occur they are cases where a player has died in the field, even some of the injuries they sustained are very scary scene to witness, so to my best knowledge no sport is safe because accidents can happen in any where and in anymore for. This players also undergo some risk too to an extent forget about their weekly income and how much bonuses they get, they are open to accidents both in and off the pitch. That is why they made it compulsory to stop the game when a player is injured in the head. Not only in football though, every other sport too, sports generally is dangerous to play you can’t be too careful performing. Horse racing being a fast sport is dangerous too when horses clashes there’s  prune to be a gruesome sight.
  Horse racing is gradually losing it  ground in todays sport expect for countries who are horse lovers country like the Australia, France, Uk, Netherlands etc. There is no central organization to promote horse racing. Every other sport has its central governing organization, charged with promoting the sport and maintaining its popularity. Horse racing does not. Betting on horse races used to be the only legal, readily-accessible form of gambling most people could participate in. That hasn’t been true for many years now.

That's because there aren't a lot of interested spectators in most parts of the world, even if there are organizations and corporations that are specifically created to develop and promote horse racing within certain regions, they won't be able to do anything if people aren't interested to watch the sport or there aren't a lot of players willing to participate because any sport would require one to stay in practice before they can participate in events and races and when players know there aren't much races or events, they stop practicing, may even sell their horses.

So, the trend of fading away because of a lack of interest by the audience. We all know that a sport or anything in the world becomes famous or popular only if people that watch that thing like it, and when those who watch it, like it, they will also share it with others to watch but there is nothing like that with horse racing anymore.

Yel horse race just like cockfighting is becoming an outdated old-fashioned thing and this game requires a lot of arrangement their consume money and manpower to organise them but then also we still have a few places and tournaments that include this game up until now but those games are not all that popular in online casinos.

But in a few physical games reserves, you may still have a real horse to ride and compete against other horse riders in races and win a price that is already settled on by the resort,  I have one like that in my city and once in a while the organise a race competition between players.

I agree that horse competitions are held in relatively small numbers and only in selected countries when compared to competitions in other sports. 
But in some countries, these competitions are an integral element of the traditions of these countries, which go back many centuries. 
Or, for example, camel racing in a number of Arab countries.  These are definitely very strong traditions.  And I don’t think that during the lifetime of several generations of people in the future, for example, even in 150-200 years, such competitions will no longer be held.  Still, I think such competitions will definitely continue. 
And we shouldn t forget about people who love animals very much, in particular such a smart animal as a horse.  There are many such people and, accordingly, competitions involving horses are a real holiday for them. 
And to deprive them of such a holiday, I believe, is wrong.

Well, I guess it's more of what is popular in your locality and what kind of game interests you that you can make a thread on or positively air your inputs in. Soccer and gained ground in almost all  of the world and it's difficult to see a gambler that hadn't been involved in soccer reduction and gambling so it's easy to see lots of threads regarding it and it kind.

For the horse racing, I haven't really thought of it that much but I guess I should give it a try.

Yes,  because going with what is popular in your locality helps you blend with the terms that goes a long with what is happening around you also,  take for instance,  horse racing,  this kind of games is so popular in sub Saharan areas,  since the use the animal a lot there and there is limited forestation so there can host the horse ride tournaments at will and also come up with vast landscape to play the game without any interferences.

Well if yan u can have an online casino that has a horse race,  then you can try it,  but then try also to make use of a few demo games to get used to the game before you start staking your funds on them.

Popularity of a sport depends on patronage and support. Cock fighting and bull fighting were very popular in the past but with the passage of time people have lost interest in these sports. Similarly, horse racing is currently practiced on a small scale in some areas, but its popularity has declined worldwide. Especially due to the lack of racers and the decrease in interest of racers, currently horse racing is not held in any international venue if it is held in some remote areas.

The game survival is based on the support from the gamblers,if you are eating the good food from one restaurant one day.So you going to the same restaurant after the year on the same date,but the same restaurant was replaced by the beauty parlour.So the reason behind this was very simple,the lack of the people support to the restaurant to manage their demands using the restaurant.So like this the reason behind the loss of horse racing in your locality and the other counties was due to the emerge of the other online gambling sites.This also caused by the adoption of the gambler to the online betting compared to the horse racing in the community.

I don't know in what region of the world where you currently are, but you're wrong. The global Horse Racing market is actually still growing and expected to almost double in size in the U.S. market by 2030. DYOR, for more information.

The leading countries with growing Horse Racing markets are Japan, the U.S.A., Hong Kong, Australia, and France. I believe in the forum, it's not that popular because no one actually has done the research on strategies and how to actually pick winners. Perhaps we should start?

 8)

I have been betting on horse racing on the betfair platform for a long time. Very often I have seen the leader fall just before the finish line or slow down unexpectedly, and as a result the victory goes to the participant with very low odds...... It makes you think

There are really indeed information on this forum which arent really that can be found on which there are indeed markets or places on which a certain thing is popular but not been discussed or been heard off into this place and thats why its not shocking that there arent that much information that we could read up into this forum itself but doesnt mean that it isnt popular.  Speaking about markets then there's really that places which are really that getting involved on such sport. First impression when it comes to horse racing is that this is a sport which are really that for those rich people which i could say that its half truth because
you would be usually be seeing huge bets that getting involved on each race.

On the time that we arent seeing info here on this forum then people arent really just that simply aware about it but if we do tend to go out and made out some
research then we could eventually say that on how vast or known or popular it is. It do really just turns out that this isnt really that
mentioned on this place.

Even though horse racing has grown in several countries that you have mentioned above, horse racing is only popular in certain regions of the country, although the interest of horse racing spectators is expected to increase, but they are not interested in gambling on the game. However we do not yet know how many gamblers are involved in horse racing on this forum because this board does not have a specific thread discussing horse racing so we cannot research the level of interest of forum users towards horse racing betting, if horse racing matches become more interesting and they will try your luck in betting on these sports.

Interesting topic I have played both for several years and love them both. (horse racing & sportbetting)
Horse racing is a whole world and it contains so much more then just bet on a winner in each race.
Almost all my horse racing experience is from trotting.

I used to play on horse racing a lot before and it did go quite well, I think horse racing is a much less lucky game and more skill game then sport betting.
Thing with  horse racing is that at least in my opinion is so different from country to country and what game you want to play so it's hard to answer your questions.

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
I sure think to start with people that already are interested in horse racing but with time and if it achieve success it will for sure grow fast.

- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
I don't really understand your question here.. You want people to open links and collect information or you want to create a gambling team where people expertise is horse racing and increase your bet so you can increase your chance to win higher? But for sure.. horse racing is a whole world and it contains so much more then just bet on a winner in each race.

- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?
Me? not active at the moment, but will for sure go back again and have done so for 15+ years. But short answer Yes!

I will follow this with excitement! Good luck OP.  :)

- Regards BabyB. 👼

Although what you have posted is true, it doesn't make it true that Horse Racing has been going through a decline in popularity like what HelliumZ said.


That's probably because no one knows where to watch it? Are the organizers of those races streaming them or broadcasting them in a sports channel somewhere? I believe if it's accessible like those other sports, it might become more popular in the forum. But I'm not much of a gambler. I like playing Craps sometimes when I have absolutely nothing to do.

Yes bro you make an argument where odds can be increased or decreased depending on the pace of a sport or competition, but odds cannot be increased or decreased so quickly in horse racing. So the casino authorities may have excluded the horse racing item considering these problems. Moreover, there may be many other ancillary problems but this important problem can be one of the main reasons for a horse to drop out of the race.

Yeah. This is a fair point. I have only ever watched horse racing events in movies and shows, but I never watched them in real life primarily because it's not really accessible as you mentioned.

I checked them and greyhound events as a gambler and ended up losing constantly since I am an amateur in these particular markets.

It's true, you can barely find any channel live streaming the races or any TV channel broadcasting them live to the audience so that they can watch the races and maybe raise some interest. It's been years since the last time I saw a horse racing live stream or a sports TV broadcasting a horse racing competition, maybe because there isn't a lot happening and the organizers already know that there aren't a lot of people interested in the sport on a global scale.

Whatever the reason is, the sport is slowly fading away and sooner or later, the world will forget that there was once a sport like this, or maybe a future generation will start the sport once again with a new start, new rules, and ways for the race and racers, etc. For now, we are going to admit that horse racing isn't a popular sport anymore.

Not totally fading away since some country have this sports as tradition like in Serbia and other country which horse racing is still popular locally. This sports is one of the main highlight in my municipality since we have rodeo festival every year. Not a regular horse tournament but we celebrate it annually and there’s a here to have our own horse racing stadium soon since our municipality plan to revive this sports.

I believe making it famous is very easy once there’s already an organizer that will organize this kind of event globally. This sports will never be forgotten since this is already a tradition in some country.

You can watch live races through sportsbooks such as Betcoin. They have live feeds. Maybe I am wrong but I think horse racing is getting more popular.

The popularity and support for horse racing is decreasing because young people in this era have shifted their passion for sports to sports that are easier to watch and also easier to play, such as football and basketball.
Horse racing has lost popularity on the world stage in the last few years and the last time I received information about the Horse Racing World Cup being held in Dubai but it was canceled due to the Covid pandemic, after that I don't know whether this championship was held or not because it didn't follow developments either.

Recently Saudi Arabia has finished holding horse racing championship with very large prizes and it is true that you say that horse racing is now only popular in certain places or countries.

The decline in public interest in horse racing is, in my opinion, due to several significant circumstances. 
Firstly, racehorsves are very expensive and their period of participation in competitions is limited to only a few years.  And this is very little.  Also, a horse requires a lot of expenses to maintain it throughout its entire life. 
I also think that the profession of a jockey is a very dangerous profession and few people who truly love horses are capable of such work.  Therefore, in particular, there are few professional-level jockeys.  For these reasons, this sport in my opinion is becoming less and less popular. 
But these races are a tradition in many countries and competitions will still be held in the future

The young generation is not really interested in horse racing, in this case it can be said that they are showing interest in popular sports like motorcycle racing, bicycle racing and skating, football, cricket, basketball and car racing. Horse racing and bullfighting competitions are held at some arenas but there is no international format for these competitions. Sometimes in our rural hilly remote areasThere are cock fighting competitions but in that case social media cannot organize any of those competitions. That's why all these popular games are gradually not becoming popular as before only due to lack of advertisement and sponsorship. Moreover, there is no organizer or sponsor of all these competitions, so this primitive popular game is not taking place at present.

Plus if there are Horse Racing streams/channels, do they make it actually exciting enough for plebs like us who are not entirely gamblers, and make it stimulating and entertaining enough to watch if we're not betting? I occasionally watch different sports/games, but none of them is stimulating enough to make me waste my money and bet on them. It's more entertaining to bet on Bitcoin Binary Options if you ask me, or play slot machines with progressive jackpots.

Lol, I am into gambling really but I cant help but agree with you that indeed, sometimes, the way some sports event are presented, makes such sports an easy turn off for watchers, as well as potential gamblers who might want to have placed some bets on the game.

A recent example for me is the women's world cup tournament that came and ended some months back, this years women world cup was the first ever I decided to sit down and possibly bet on, but unfortunately, I wasn't at all impressed, I only ended up betting on about 3 or 4 matches at the beginning and never placed a bet on any of the game again until the tournament came to an end.

Some sports are just like that, and horse is one of those for me, I personally find watching a horse race as one of the most boring thing for me, it's just like bicycle race, very boring to sit and watch.

Traditional sports include horse racing, bullfighting, and cockfighting. Though they have history, young people aren't interested anymore. Why? It's simple: visibility is low, sponsorship is scarce, and let's be honest, the excitement factor for the youth is just not there compared to the high-speed thrill of motorcycle racing or the global fervor of football and basketball

I'm experienced with online gambling and betting. The market is big and all about what's trendy. Horse racing was once the king of betting sports, but now it's all about social media, TV airtime, and sponsors. Sport popularity dies without advertising and sponsorship. The calculation is simple: no ads, no spotlight, no interest, no money

What's the crazy idea? Traditional sports must change to survive. Adapt to what young people want. Perhaps these games should be made more participatory and digital, with virtual reality, online betting systems with social media integration, live-streaming in remote highland places, and more

I don't think channels like this exist again unlike before where you could choose to select from a variety of channels that shows or stream horse racing, maybe this is due to the advanced technology that people now create more atrent of sport bettings and their games in the likes of football being the most recognized one of them all, horse racing seems to be an ancient or historical game or form of entertainment which people have advanced from it to others, both the live horse racing and it gambling on casino bets are no more invoke.

Watching horse racing events on TV are boring indeed, but it's a completely different experience when watching them live and the entertainment factor increases if you bet on one or more of those horses.

Live horse betting is actually one of the most popular ways for the elites to throw their money around and have fun.

The only reason that comes to mind is lack of competitions to stimulate demand and get players trying out racing horse, otherwise most bookies I know/use do have race horsing from race courses coming from all over world and it's just the players not talking about this sport...I actually doubt it if this board as a thread dedicated to this sport too...

Perhaps this should be a challenge to our Sportsbooks on the forum to try make deliberate challenges to get horse racing on the sports map like we have football challenges all year round in the gambling section, then interest will be generated from this..

Sportsbook with Racebooks and live video. Some are here at BCT https://cryptogamingrevu.com/horserace_cat/

If we are talking about the distant future, I doubt it. Traditions tend to change or vanish over time, especially if the people that the tradition belongs to start losing interest in it. Countries that are trying to keep the sport alive will do their best, of course, but I'm afraid they won't be able to do that if they don't have an audience for it. A sport becomes popular and widely used and liked only if there are people who are interested in both watching and participating in it.

The legacy needs to be continued and fulfilled, in every sport, or anything else in general. When someone gets old, retires, or passes away, they are supposed to be replaced by someone like them, who matches their style, their charm, and most importantly, their skills. They can become better over time, but they will at least keep the soul of the game alive. However, I'm afraid that's not happening with horse racing.

Of course, there is no need to talk about the long-term future in the development of this sport. 
After all, this sport was born due to the fact that for many centuries the horse was the only high-speed means of human transportation. 
But for more than 100 years, high-speed transportation of people has been carried out by cars, and of course by trains and planes too.   And immediately racing car competitions arose.  Formula 1, circuit racing, Le Mans and other competitions. 
And the attention of the masses of people gradually switched from horse racing to car racing.  And that’s why I think interest in horse racing is still declining quite a lot. 

Traditions, of course, will allow these competitions to be held for another 150-200 years, but then, I think, they will disappear. 
And they will only be in the past of humanity, as, for example, the once very popular gladiator fights in Ancient Rome disappeared.

Agree with this as we all know that before horse is the only animal will use in our daily lives. As we all know that through horses they will travel far from where they are. And also in ancients time horses use to battles so horses is very historic animal. But nowadys there are some countries who are actually doing horde racing as a sports and yes it will good to watch that. But many countries did not let the horse racing maybe they don't have the field or there are any reasons behind that.

Well, the truth is I have to understand that for many People horse racing is very Impressive, seeing it from a more relaxed point of view I can Understand that we as spectators only see the race and that's it, what makes me curious is why for the Damn , are the workouts so suffocating? As hard as you are, it's as if the horse suffers a lot. I've been told that horse training involves animal abuse, some die in the middle of training, but I'm just saying something, so that one of these animals can perform. What you need is to have a good diet and for your muscles to be well Worked, Increasingly more aerodynamic and very strong, but I don't understand if what they are referring to as being very hard is the diet, we as Humans when we are in a sport of high Performance we do not have to Follow a diet to be able to have better Performance , but it is all very Balanced, we can never overdo it because we will injure ourselves, but what I understand with horses is not like that.

Hair training is directed with another way of doing things , it is harder because they are animals, but they also require direct treatment with veterinary control , so this is Something Delicate, as long as we do everything related to finding the best treatment of an animal , we think that its nutrition, vitamins and all this is what can make an animal a champion, as well as the degree of trust that its rider can give it, because this is something that goes beyond, we as people who We are totally led to the bets because we know that this is exciting, the truth is I don't know what the criteria that bettors take to bet on a particular rider, because the information can be very diverse, and and well this may or may not lead to expectations of people, how do you know which one to choose? If I enter a horse race as a rookie, how do they find out which is the best horse? this is really Difficult.

Horse racing, like every sport, needs fans. Without new blood on the track and in the stands, the sport might die away. Countries maintaining these traditions work hard, but without collective enthusiasm, they may fail. Both past winners and rising talent make the sport appealing. The dynamism of horse racing has always been in the seamless relay from one generation to the next. Few seem to grab this baton pass, which is stumbling. Old-fashioned charm and skill require successors or the sport will fade into history. In reality, horse racing is at a crossroads. It must change with new tastes without losing its identity. Staying current in a quickly changing environment is no joke. Reviving its heritage may require engaging youth, diversifying the experience, and growing its digital footprint.

I don't think that horse trainers and caretakers mistreat their horses at all.
I seen horses die in races, but that is often because some wrong with their heart or something.
Accidents happens of course sadly and it's always a nightmare to watch one.
But that caretakers would abuse a horse with purpose won't happen since they love them as their own babies.
Even if a owner would push the trainer and caretaker to top the horse for best result he would not succeed.





Well it's hard to pick a winner in a race, since so much can happen in a race.
Me myself only bet on trotting, and in a trotting race you will need to look out for how fast the horse are at the start and what spot the horse have behind the car or in the volt.
Example to start on number 1-2 behind the car is very good if you are fast out at the beginning, if you are slow you risk to be stuck at the inside lane and you don't want that.
Perfect position is always in the lead or to be second on the second lane, so you can go out and attack when you want.
A good way to bet is that you bet on what horse that will come first and second for better odds if you have found a horse you will think win a race.
Also know difference of a fast and strong horse, many races are in different length and some horses are better in short distance (Fast horses) and some better at long distance (Strong horses)
It's so many things to know about like a whole world, hard to point at some specific, if you wonder something I gladly help out if I can!  :)


- Regards BabyB. 👼

Nowadays most of the casinos and gambling sites sportbetting is mostly betting on football and cricket. Casino authorities have no interest in other sports or competitions. Due to the failure of some competitions to attract the attention of the authorities, lack of patronage, gradual decline in popularity, etc., these competitions are currently unable to generate interest among people. These competitionsBull fight, cock fight, horse race, camel race etc. now people are not showing interest so casino authorities are not thinking about these issues seriously. However, these unpopular games are still held in different parts of the world, but the casino authorities do not make betting arrangements for these competitions.

Games such as bullfights, horse racing, cockfights, camel races, and many more, are not played on an international level, and as you said, are played only in specific countries where people show some interest in the games. However, that interest is fading away over time, and that is becoming the reason for these games slowly becoming scarce because those who play the games or participate in them can see that they don't have much of an audience to cheer for them or watch them playing, so they are losing interest as well.

If we talk about sportsbooks or casinos, they only add sports that are popular and in demand on a global scale which increases the revenue for them since people from all around the globe will be placing bets on those sports games and they are not wrong since they are running a business and need revenue to keep operating.

These days, horse racing is considered a sport for the wealthy, the digital horse racing might be a whole lot interesting for the players but not everyone is able to afford a horse in the real life.

Loads of money is also involved in the horse racing game, apart from being a sport, it's also a high level gamble as wealthy people commit large sums to stake against their horses of interest.

Normal people can still gamble on horse racing. You can still do some side bets on the horse/pilot that you want with the minimum bet which I think majority of the gamblers can afford. It will be a different thing if you are the one who will participate on the horse race like you own/breed/raise the horse. There's no denying that there are gamblers who really are putting massive cash on horse racing but it is the same on other popular gambling games. It's just that it's not the game that everyone likes that is why I think it's unpopular.

Its just really that unheard of and this is why it do really looks that it isnt really that popular but we know that they're indeed existing. It isnt really just that as noisy like we do see on NBA
or Football on which we could really make out that comparison but pretty sure that there would really be specific markets for that. If you do find out that horseracing is your thing then good
one that they've been offering those kind of bets. It is really just that a matter of choice on what kind of sport you are into because each person does have their own favorites.

It do really just turns out that not most people here are interested with it, most of people or users of this forum are really that interested with those sports mentioned aboved.
It is really that evident on trying to just look at on the gambling section on which you could say that interest and recognition is there but for sure
in other corners or places then horse racing is popular.

It is obvious that not everyone is interested in horse racing game because some persons do not know how the game works especially betting on it. When it comes to gambling, I mostly advise people to go for what works for them than trying to learn something new that would start making them to be making loses. The goal is to make profits from gambling no matter the kind of game we are betting on whether easy or difficult for some persons. Whatever works for us is what we should gamble on rather looking for new kind of bets to play to win more profits.

Many gamblers are not interested in new bets because they do not know the technicalities of predicting wins because most gamblers focus on football betting, so it is possible that those who bet on horse racing betting already understand the potential to choose winners, they are chasing profits instead of choosing the favorite racing team. However, there will be more and more horse racing fans if this sport is competed in all countries and added to the international Olympics, hoping that the support of all casinos adding horse racing betting will have an impact on increasing fans of gambling on that sport.

I think it really depends on the country, some of the country's football is so popular that they made a betting game to it. And some country like mine which is football is not that popular but basketball where they share the same mechanics. For me, horse racing actually has easy mechanics and I could even see this kind of gambling in an arcade place where kids are using tokens as bets. But in reality, if you really focused on having profits, you would literally be examined and analyzed as the best team or best player that has the potential to win. I just want to think that if there's a case that horse racing would be popular in gambling worldwide, I hope that the horses have proper treatment even locally places, cause for sure there's a law that supports anti-animal cruelty.

Well, there are many things that can be Known about this, because it is like everything else, I know that this existed long before and several things could be done, so in this order of ideas I think that it is very effective in terms of emotions. sperosna this causes them to get up a lot, the adrenalin levels rise, in the old splices there are always some of the sports, and among those the horse race, as far as caabloos die , I think it is because of the same hormones that can be given to them, you have to have control over the veterinarian, because these are things that can always happen, so keep that in mind, I think that horses need better treatment on this, their Pain is very Important , I don't Know how hard the Training of horses can be so that they can perform Better , I Feel that that is what they Lack so that they can be better.

Now as for the things that I see that can be taken into Consideration for Horses , they are very many, it is as I said before, a whole world where they need to have everything of them to be the best, there are criteria that only bettors can consider, so I I can say that when it comes to betting on someone in particular I wouldn't know, I would only be guided if there is a previous history,. to see which horses the majority bet on , to see And learn from them, although in terms of the technical aspects of a horse or its careers I don't know very well , but it is and it shows that there is a lot of theory there, it is something that can be considered as The best thing that can be done, I imagine that there are guides or things that others do so that they can guide themselves , I would think that this can spread if the people don't actually mistreat them or something , it's Interesting, honestly what I've said About this is that horses treat them very badly, and that is what Should not be allowed, because how are you going to treat badly what is making you generate a lot of money?

Exactly.  You are absolutely right that the sport is at a crossroads.

 And primarily due to the fact that too few countries have in their sports calendars for each year such competitions that fall under the racing standard set, for example, by Great Britain.  The versions of these competitions in other countries are too different.  For example, in Kazakhstan, where nomadic peoples live in the vast expanses of the steppe and a horse is for them like a car is for an American, races are held as part of national festivals.  And these races are not at all like racing at a racecourse anywhere in the UK.  And since there are no globally accepted standards for this horse racing around the world, this is the problem with this sport.  And he really stands at a crossroads. 
And by the way, it may gradually cease to exist. 
But I hope this won’t happen soon.

As someone who has been interested in horse racing from the owner part of things (I am not a horse owner, I just spent time with some of them) I can tell you that it hasn't been all that interesting any part of the world. The recent era of humanity has realized that this is something that is not good for the horses, I mean just the idea that horses are whipped is clear enough that we are talking about something that hurts them.

You may consider that they are taken care of better than any other horse, but to be fair the horses are taken care of based on the owner, not the situation, even the greatest horse could be taken care of terribly if the owner is a bad human, and the worst horse could be taken care of as kings if the owner is a good human. So with humanity evolving, you may disagree with this idea, but there are more and more opposition to horse racing, and it was never at some football or basketball or tennis level even before, and definitely even worse now.

Quite the contrary, I completely agree with you.  I also don’t like it at all when at races a horse is mercilessly beaten and urged on by jockeys.  Sometimes even this ends in the death of this majestic animal.  And of course, a lot depends on the horse owner in how he treats the animal.  But I really think that most horse owners treat them well.  After all, they love horses, otherwise they wouldn’t keep them in their stable. 
Bu at the races, of course, cruelty always appears because of the result.  That's why this is a competition and to win you have to suffer.

Animal welfare concerns have eclipsed the sport's appeal. Racehorses' quality of life depends on their owners' ethics. Inconsistency casts doubt on the sport's future. History, tradition, and a strong link between horse and human make horse racing more than just a race. Shouldn't we also weigh the positive? Many horses receive specialized care, jobs, and community building. Can we imagine a future where the sport values horses and fans?

It's interesting to compare horse racing to football or basketball to address your point about its popularity. Horse racing may not be as popular as these sports, but isn't that partially owing to its uniqueness? Horse racing is a rare but fascinating sport with history, tradition, and gambling. Strategy, skill, and chance create a complicated and exciting tapestry. As society evolves, the difficulty is to reconcile enthusiasm with ethics. How do we modernize horse racing without losing its essence? This changing discourse reflects our changing relationship with nature and animals, not simply the sport.

Wow, surprised this is still going...
Completely disappointed than 99% show total lack of knowledge about this stuff but somehow they feel like they hold the absolute truth!
I could make a ignore list here to crash the server but ...whatever


Yeah Phil, that's one of the drawbacks but at the same time it's the entreating thing, with basket in your example by the 60 minutes you're done watching and are scrolling back and forth to see how to make an insurance bet, what options you still have left and so on, with racing you're favorite has a 20 lengths lead and it drops the jockey and you've lost on year of heartbeats that moment I call that thrilling!

Two days ago the favorite Shishkin refused to race, I was backing the other one and when I saw him planted at the start I was going hurray, victory and then I was screaming move just a bit , move you damn stupid horse so for him to be declared a runner! It's moment like this I enjoy in racing!


Wow, impressed there are still some who say that /s
With countries like Australia, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia,  France, UK, Ireland, Canada USA having million worth of races all year around quite interesting no one knows about . Argentina had a 300,000 races just a few weeks ago but ...damn!
Feels like this whole board is concentrated in the 3-4 countries that don't have horse racing.


Churchill, Kentucky and Santa Anita have smashed record attendance this year, racing post topped 10 million viewers....what ae you talking about?


Not going to happen.
People here are more keen on throwing 4 lines of text and call it it gambling discussion not actually betting.
I offered a fee competition with 1 mbtc just to pick the winning horse from races on a festival, attendance...zero!
Probably it involved looking at what horses ran and then posting the name, too much trouble when you can rephrase the comment above for $3, right?

Somehow I find it hard to believe that among the tens of thousands of users of our forum there is no one who is not interested in and does not follow horse racing and the corresponding schedules of these competitions. 
Of course, the profile of our technology forum is quite far from the issues of sports competitions, and even more so those related to animals, such as horse racing or, for example, camel racing, as happens in the Middle Eastern countries.  Nevertheless, this topic would still be worth continuing and expressing some news from the world of horse racing, simply because for many it broadens their horizons and in general these are interesting competitions, by the way, in which the betting represents a rather interesting development of events at these races.  And yet, these are traditional competitions.  And many people respect traditions. 

So OP should probably continue to post some important information about horse racing here.  :)

Setting up and running a prediction game can really get people interested if it's well organized and fun. Something like clear rules, openness, and a method for rewarding people would be needed for this to work. If the game is fun and well-run, a small amount like 1-2 mbtc per event might be enough to get people to be involved. To get people to participate, you should think about what the community wants and make sure the prize is appealing enough. It depends on the audience's hobbies and demographics whether or not people in the community are interested in horse racing gambling. There are ways to find out what the community wants by making a poll or asking for direct comments.