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101  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: May 06, 2024, 07:39:37 PM
Ну там же цирк и это из баланса видно. Даже строители такой низкой маржи не имеют.
Кто им должен вообще неясно, там явно по предоплате работают и под залог оборудования. Они могут быть сетям должны за розетку, но сомневаюсь что сетевики им бы 800 млн в долг дали, скорее всего давно бы отключили. Так что видимо красиво рисуют балансы, типа покупают асик за 10к зелени, платят за растаможку и прочее, а потом продают его за 8к например, чтобы показать убыток и налог на прибыль не платить, а еще и потом каждый год наверное балансовая стоимость снижается. И это не считая что крипта вся по серым схемам проходит.
В общем итог прост: бизнес в серой зоне не делается без погон и людей в костюмах, иначе бы давно прикрыли бы лавочку.
Интересное обсуждение!
Во первых дебиторка это деньги, которые контрагенты должны компании, поэтому в активе. Кредиторка в пассиве баланса.
Дать заключение по урезанным отчетам нельзя.

Рост дебиторки в 10 раз за год - это огромный красный флаг для ФНС и любого финансового партнера. Бабки им давать нельзя, а налоговая должна была назначить проверку. Дебиторка - это обязательства других коммерческих организаций, которые могут быть и не выплачены. Обычно такое делают когда компанию хотят слить, или у них были продажи с отсрочкой в декабре 2023 года.
С основными средствами и их реальной стоимостью можно разабраться только путем аудита. По бухгалтерским правилам основное средство как асик может амортизироваться 3 года.
102  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS FORM 1040 "Digital Assets on: May 06, 2024, 07:07:22 PM
larry_vw_1955, I already told you that many expats live in the USA and people, when meeting in person, exchange cryptocurrency in the USA for dollars and back without registration or other tax reports.
I understand that this is illegal in the US, but it exists.


you can't really stop people from doing p2p transfers with bitcoin. fiat can't really be tracked unless it is part of the banking system. not all fiat is in the banking system. but with that said you do have to trust the other party not to snitch on you.

but don't you think this declaration on the IRS individual tax returns which demands them to disclose if they have been involved in cryptocurrency isn't that just kind of like them telling people to raise your hand if you think you're a good person for us to audit? i would think so. i think they need a better way to enforce reporting than to put people on a "goodwill" system. that's kind of like self checkout. you're just inviting people to be dishonest. with SECRETIVE HIDDEN systems in place to try and catch them. rather than doing your job yourself.

people shouldn't have to be forced to incriminate themself. i think the IRS asking them a question like that kind of violates their 5th amendment rights.  Shocked
Most likely, the organizer of such an exchange will be recruited by a special service in the United States and will transmit all data on exchanges. But in Russia, such people do not live long or their lives are not very peaceful. Their cars and houses are usually on fire and they are afraid to walk calmly down the street.
And if someone is engaged in activities that are not quite legal, he should not communicate with the police or tax authorities without his lawyer. Most people don't know their legal rights, but a good lawyer can help.
103  Bitcoin / Legal / Dutch police confiscated assets worth €11,400,000 (including cryptocurrencies) on: May 05, 2024, 09:13:24 AM
The beginning of the story
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/04/22/zkasino-users-plead-for-refunds-as-33m-of-bridged-ether-sent-to-lido/
"More than 10,000 users deposited $33 million worth of ether to earn ZKAS, ZKasino’s native token.
Despite initially saying that the bridged ether would be returned, ZKasino said it had converted the ether for ZKAS.
Blockchain data shows that the ether has been deposited to Lido."

https://www.fiod.nl/12-million-seized-and-arrested-in-investigation-into-gambling-platform-scam/
"On Monday 29th of April, the FIOD arrested a 26-year-old man who is suspected of fraud, embezzlement and money laundering. The investigation focuses on a large-scale scam surrounding the alleged gambling platform ZKasino. On this gambling platform, more than 30 million US dollars in crypto currency has been invested by victims worldwide. "

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104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you need to know about NFTs tokens on: May 05, 2024, 09:01:35 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/02/bored-ape-yacht-club-nfts-floor-price-sinks-ceo-announces-layoffs.html
Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs sold for millions in 2021—prices have dropped 90% since then
"Yuga Labs, the creator of the viral Bored Ape Yacht Club non-fungible tokens, announced a new round of layoffs on Friday as the NFT frenzy appears to cool.

Greg Solano, YugaLab’s CEO, announced that the startup would lay off an unspecified number of employees as it undergoes “restructuring.”

“To put it simply: Yuga lost its way,” he wrote in a statement posted on X. “Getting ourselves centered and on the right path means being a smaller more agile and cryptonative team.”"

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I've already written this several times, but I won't be lazy to write it again. Every year new collections of NFTs appear, and old well-known collections lose a lot of value every year.
See statistics here
https://www.cryptoslam.io/
105  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: EU is set to delagalise decentralised mixers on: May 04, 2024, 07:53:33 AM

Decentralized services will be available anyway. Not every dev lives in a country they can reach. Can they get to a dev that lives in Russia for example? I don’t think so but this time your data will be in the hands of Putin.
And what kind of data might end up in the hands of the Russian president after this, if all this data is open to everyone on the blockchain?


Now reading my post again, I think I wanted to say "the dev's data" probably. The dev's privacy is as important as ours from now on (actually more important). If the dev does his job in a country where the US can send their gestapo, he will get caught by them. If he does his job in Russia, the Russian mob will be after him.

We have already seen it with McAfee's case. He was in Spain and they caught him for a crime he is not responsible to Spain.


In fact, many countries have central banks that are subject to the Bank for International Settlements and its requirements first, and only then to the laws of their country.
And the requirements for all countries are the same: that all transactions have a verified sender and recipient if a certain limit is reached.
Therefore, the trial of the developer Pertsev will be very revealing.
106  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS FORM 1040 "Digital Assets on: May 04, 2024, 07:40:54 AM
larry_vw_1955, I already told you that many expats live in the USA and people, when meeting in person, exchange cryptocurrency in the USA for dollars and back without registration or other tax reports.
I understand that this is illegal in the US, but it exists.

In any country there are gaps in tax legislation, but as soon as people start using it often, these holes close. According to Russian practice, such opportunities last from 6 months to several years. And the most cunning ones will then face a comprehensive tax audit.

And when there are a lot of rich people in a country, then it’s time to replenish the country’s budget.
107  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Uncle Gary leaving the SEC? on: May 04, 2024, 07:23:27 AM
@zasad@. The tokens were not sold privately to investors with a promise to earn something with those tokens. Also this is where the confusion begins on using the Howey test on tokens because it can also bw considered that the tokens are the oranges and they are not the orange farm. Uncle Gary was arguing that the action of issuance on these tokens make them a security. But the judge made a ruling against this argument.

On the tokens that are being traded on exchanges and on platforms similar to Uniswap, these are not securities because there is no contract for these tokens to earn something if investors hold them. They are very much similar to memecoins.
We are not talking now about tokens that are traded on centralized and decentralized exchanges.
We probably didn't pay attention to my reference to SAFT and SAFE(US).
When a company sells a token to everyone indiscriminately, as was the case in 2016-2018 at the ICO and actively advertises its product, it is more like selling securities. SEC regulation has just begun, and many more projects will be punished for this.
108  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: [ЛOГ] Пoльзoвaтeли, пoвыcившиe cвoй paнг - Пoздpaвлeния! on: May 04, 2024, 07:09:11 AM
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109  Economy / Exchanges / Re: A doubt about onchain transactions on: May 03, 2024, 11:48:51 AM
Hello, everyone. Can someone answer me this question: To where goes a payment if the date I assigned to a transaction has expired before it has been processed? I withdrew a certain number of sats from the exchange, the transaction was confirmed (here is the ID c5d0c43d8be74e58317a84928536829febe947fc8a43dd6b403a98f3e5bf0a60), but the sats did not arrive in my Tails electrum wallet.
I see that your transaction has 10 outputs. First you need to check your wallet balance on the blockchain to make sure you received the coins.
It could be a bug on the exchange or a synchronization issue in your wallet, but a better place to start is by checking on the blockchain.
110  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: EU is set to delagalise decentralised mixers on: May 03, 2024, 11:36:28 AM

Decentralized services will be available anyway. Not every dev lives in a country they can reach. Can they get to a dev that lives in Russia for example? I don’t think so but this time your data will be in the hands of Putin.
If someone uses a centralized service, then they cannot trust this service 100% because they cannot verify that transaction data has been deleted. And for the developer this is a big plus for cooperation with the judicial system if he is later caught.

If we consider a decentralized service and a Russian developer, then Russian citizen Alexey Pertsev was charged with developing the Tornado Cash cryptomixer. Its code is open and anyone can check it and use it.
And what kind of data might end up in the hands of the Russian рresident after this, if all this data is open to everyone on the blockchain?
You can only see that address 1 sent 1 Ethereum to the mixer, and address 2 took 1 Ethereum from the mixer, but you cannot find an obvious connection between the addresses when many people use this service.
111  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Man Arrested for distributing and selling Hive RAT Malware on: May 03, 2024, 11:16:39 AM

Maybe it sounds strange or as a threat to human rights, but someone who has done something like this once is very likely to do it again if he has the chance. Deterrence in the form of restrictive measures is by far the best measure when it comes to such people.
We are discussing a crime and a not very experienced criminal who was caught trying to sell malware. And every day hundreds or thousands of such crimes will be committed.
If you look at the statistics on the increase in cybercrime by country, many countries will have to build reservations for such people. But there is no budget for this and no laws either Smiley
112  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Uncle Gary leaving the SEC? on: May 03, 2024, 11:07:59 AM
@zasad@. The victory in the case on Ripple is the judges ruling that have declared that the tokens by themselves are not securities. This might open a new roadmap for development teams on how to issue tokens without making it a security. I speculate that proof of work will become useful again in this new distribution method where projects will use proof of work for distribution then make the transformation to proof of stake. It might be similar to Ethereum without the premine.
Then let's come to some agreement on this issue.
I think that even before the court’s decision it was clear that if a token was not sold to investors, then it cannot be a security.
This is what the famous Howey test says.

The fact "that tokens themselves are not securities" helps US-based crypto exchanges avoid accusations of securities trading.

Ripple still has a bunch of other legal charges, and most likely they will pay a fine. Ripple was also engaged in active marketing and market manipulation (like other projects).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487767

A way to avoid problems with SEC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480233
Is this a secret? This has been known to everyone for a long time, but with such requirements it was impossible to work on the crypto market.
113  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS FORM 1040 "Digital Assets on: May 03, 2024, 10:46:01 AM
Don't you think you're contradicting yourself?
Tax evasion is a crime, then how can you legally commit a crime? I know that tax crimes in the USA have no statute of limitations.

he's not evading taxes. he's avoiding them by doing particular types of things which are legal... Angry and trust me, i'm sure the IRS knows about him. and looks over his tax returns every single year VERY CAREFULLY. oh, and he even invests some of his money into bitcoin among other things. as a side thing. care to guess who he is? i bet he is rolling around in tens of millions of dollars if not more in liquid fiat currency right now. and could buy anything he wanted. that type of thing.

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It all depends on the system and its tasks. If the system does not fulfill its tasks, then it is bad for the state and good for the people.
And vice versa. After all, the interests of the state and the interests of people do not always coincide.
And the fact that the court gives longer prison sentences for tax crimes than for murder or similar crimes is a problem of your judicial system.

Well, the "state" and the people are not on an equal level. The state prints all the money. They print it and it immediately becomes valuable just because they printed it. and it looks nice and people can't easily make fake copies of it. does that sound like a very good system to you?
You and I live in different countries with different mentalities. In Russia, an average exchanger on the wholesale market in Moscow can change 10-20 million dollars in a day or half a day. Nobody pays taxes on this. A lot of goods come to Russia from China and Chinese sellers accept cryptocurrencies without any problems. If earlier merchants carried dollars across the border, now rarely anyone does this thanks to the introduction of cryptocurrencies.
If your friend cheated the tax system and tells his friends about it, then he is taking a city risk.

Thanks to cryptocurrencies, you can now print your own money.
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Astar/Shiden(Polkadot/Kusama ecosystems) on: May 02, 2024, 08:30:06 AM
https://cryptocompass.com/articles/casio-launches-nft-collection-celebrating-50th-anniversary
"Casio has signed strategic partnerships with creators that will design the collection.
An iconic Casio watch model would be depicted in each work of art.
In a partnership with Astar’s zero-knowledge Ethereum Virtual Machine (zkEVM), world-renowned watchmaker Casio has launched the NFT collection. The release states that this new breakthrough is intended to celebrate Casio’s 50th anniversary. The major partnership with Casio was also announced by Astar Network on X.

It is vital that Casio and Astar zkEVM, a formidable alliance formed by Astar and Polygon, work together to improve scalability. Yoki Origins is a gamified user onboarding experience that Astar zkEVM, powered by Polygon Chain Development Kit (CDK), started using a few months ago. The Ethereum Layer-2 scaling solution is incorporating the Yoki Origins experience into its latest partnership with Casio."
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Optimism & Arbitrum on: May 02, 2024, 08:27:36 AM
https://unchainedcrypto.com/a16z-makes-90-million-private-purchase-of-optimisms-op-token/A16z Makes $90 Million Private Purchase of Optimism’s OP Token
Blockchains including Celo have recently chosen Optimism’s OP Tech Stack to deploy Layer 2s on Ethereum.
"Prominent venture capital firm a16z has snapped up about $90 million of Optimism’s native OP token, according to two sources familiar with the matter, marking the latest institutional bet on the Ethereum Layer 2.

The investment, said to be executed under a two-year vesting period, follows a flurry of activity in the Optimism ecosystem, including growth in usage of Optimism’s OP Stack. Token vesting periods entered into by sizable investors typically come with discounted purchases to the token’s trading price. "
116  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Man Arrested for distributing and selling Hive RAT Malware on: May 02, 2024, 08:22:52 AM
From the Op's post:
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the victim had “20k in bitcoin on a blockchain wallet”
Note that it says 20k in bitcoin. NOT 20k Bitcoins. Huge difference there...
As for the person arrested - hope he gets the maximum sentences.
By income standards in the United States, for trying to steal 25 thousand dollars, a femida must first flog the criminal’s ass Smiley and then send him to forced labor. Just because a person spends several years in prison, he will not improve. And in forced labor, he will at least benefit society.
117  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Alert on Cryptocurrency Money Services Businesses USA on: May 02, 2024, 08:16:51 AM
Soon there will be no non-custodial services and wallets left in the United States.

Soon, all decentralized exchanges (DEX) will likely be required to verify the origin of their users' wallets and request that the wallet owners undergo a Know Your Customer (KYC) process. This trend is expected to spread globally, with G20 countries following the lead of the United States. Already Trump has publically advocated that he will punish countries that stop using USD for global transactions. They will do anything to control the world and they will do anything to stop Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies from dominating their USD.
First, Trump needs to win the election, and he is not leading the polls yet. Further practice shows that the United States can successfully influence small countries, but they cannot influence such large countries as China, India, Russia, whose population is more than half of the world's population (or almost half).
And the resources of the United States are very limited, because the country has a large national debt, for which there are no solutions and many of its own internal problems.
118  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS FORM 1040 "Digital Assets on: May 02, 2024, 08:01:56 AM
If you look at the lists of the richest people in the US and the amount of taxes paid, you will realize that rich people and their companies pay high taxes.
i don't need to look at a list of rich people. i know of one rich person and i know exactly how he avoids paying any taxes. but he has a huge income and he does it legally. its very simple.
Don't you think you're contradicting yourself?
Tax evasion is a crime, then how can you legally commit a crime? I know that tax crimes in the USA have no statute of limitations.

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larry_vw_1955, why are you making excuses? The system does everything to ensure that the majority of people are its slaves. If this is not the case, then it is a bad system.

a bad system for who? the majority of the people?

i heard biden is trying to make it a felony if you don't file your tax return for 3 out of 5 years and then the penalty would be jail time and maybe something more. that's part of his budget proposal for 2025. it applies to rich people. not working folks.  

i think i heard it may be a 5 year jail term. just enough time to get acclimated to life on the inside... Shocked

It all depends on the system and its tasks. If the system does not fulfill its tasks, then it is bad for the state and good for the people.
And vice versa. After all, the interests of the state and the interests of people do not always coincide.
And the fact that the court gives longer prison sentences for tax crimes than for murder or similar crimes is a problem of your judicial system.
119  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ETH] Ethereum - мировой компьютер on: May 01, 2024, 02:36:53 PM
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/new-court-filings-show-sec-chair-gensler-believed-ethereum-was-security-for-at-least-year
Новые судебные документы показывают, что председатель Комиссии по ценным бумагам и биржам (SEC) Генслер считал, что Эфириум был ценной бумагой в течение как минимум года
"Документы, поданные фирмой-разработчиком программного обеспечения Ethereum, раскрывают мнение SEC о второй по величине криптовалюте

ЭКСКЛЮЗИВ: Комиссия по ценным бумагам и биржам и ее председатель Гэри Генслер, похоже, в течение как минимум года считали, что вторая по величине криптовалюта, Ethereum, может быть незарегистрированной торговлей ценными бумагами, что противоречит действующим федеральным правилам, как стало известно FOX Business.

Об этом стало известно после подачи неотредактированной жалобы на агентство компанией- разработчиком программного обеспечения Ethereum Consensys. Компания подала отредактированную версию иска в федеральный суд Техаса в прошлый четверг в ответ на полученное ею так называемое уведомление Уэллса с подробным описанием планов SEC подать в суд на фирму за несоблюдение федеральных законов о ценных бумагах."
120  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Explanation of anonymous transactions in Europe on: May 01, 2024, 02:29:11 PM
https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/eu-parliament-passes-anti-money-laundering-bill/
EU will ban mixers and force crypto firms to surveil users in blow to DeFi anonymity
If DeFi services force users to undergo identity verification procedures, how will they continue to be DeFi?
Does this include any exchange service that does not ask depositors for data for transactions less than $10,000, or for all transactions, and does this include Monero ban?
Most DeFi is no longer DeFi because there is a token lockup and a kill switch.
In a couple of years, there will be no well-known services without a KYC procedure. But you can prepare for this by distributing the coins into smaller wallets now, so that there is no connection between these wallets.
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