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101  Other / Off-topic / How on: November 25, 2019, 04:25:21 PM
Who pays for something like this as there is no way to recoup the money. For what purpose, there sure a better way to spent money.
Tree grows through car overnight in France Nantes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehHJzKd9ZxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw9-e3AojEg

Apparently been burned to the ground the following night.
102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Overpopulation of a developing country is one of its major problem on: November 24, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
The World's Shrinking Population
2.1 is needed to sustain population, Europe has 1.6 Japan 1.4 fertility rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYZPTaV-RcQ

‘One Child Nation’
https://youtu.be/RdkHA_-xryk
103  Other / Off-topic / Re: ‘Off-the-grid’ chat messenger app that works even without internet connection on: November 23, 2019, 02:55:19 PM
Does it mean no-one uses messaging apps without the use of internet or phone tower connection?
104  Other / Off-topic / Re: Tesla Cybertruck on: November 23, 2019, 02:30:34 PM
An upgrade decades in the making, was worth every minute of it.



https://rqriley.com/product/urbacar-plans/


It may become the electric version of the Aztec
Before Tesla... 1960s/70s Electric Cars
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2019, 02:23:06 PM
valuable info

BSV will be 51% attacked 3 times before bitcoin ever is.

Stop quoting r/btc and go back to meta net.

If anybody wants to make a wager here that BTC won't be 51% attacked (or SegWit exploited) by the date of your choosing, let me know. It will be a gentleman's wager and I will assuredly hold my end of the bargain or else never post on the forum again.

Error correction and implementation of such is not an attack. It is organic, natural and certainly within anyone's right.
If an invalid fork has aged 5 minutes, 5 days, 5 months or whatever timeframe does not matter, time does not fix the invalid split, miners do.
There can be only one Bitcoin and whatever coin, pi coin, b coin..........Bitcoin is one chain and one chain only as per white paper/copyright.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062554.msg11396448#msg11396448

An error is not an taxable event, tax payment errors however do exit. Currently Bitcoin runs in error mode.
It is evident that he correct chain has not been established yet, it is only a matter of time.  It is not possible to share the whitepaper across multiple chains. When only one chain carries the bitcoin name and code the correct chain has been established and all systems go.

You are just a common troll have no say in the matter unless you are a miner. Common troll have advantages also it instantly reduces everything to an opinion, disqualification from serious advice.
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2019, 06:25:05 AM
Guys, I've been reading this crazy stuff posted by someone called "Shelby Moore" (whose messages were recently re-posted in the WO thread by user THX 1138), about how all coins held in SegWit addresses will be donated to miners, as they are free-to-spend coins in the legacy (pre-SegWit) blockchain, and only the coins held in legacy addresses will stay intact and belonging to their owners (private key holders). Supposedly, this attack will occur near the 2020 Halving event and will wreak havoc, resulting in the legacy chain being resurrected from the dead and becoming the dominant one, and the SegWit chain disintegrating into oblivion and causing a massive BTC price drop to near-zero.

What do you make of this?

Some more Qs:

1. Is it possible to move any of our coins held in SegWit addresses to legacy addresses (so that they would belong to the legacy chain if the above attack does happen)? Does the fact that, at some point in their history, those coins were held in SegWit addresses, taint them in any way? Would they still be considered as fully belonging to the legacy chain once moved to legacy addresses?

2. Would you do it? Do you think it's worth it?

3. Do these questions even make any sense?

4. Am I wasting my time with all this?

Thanks for any insights.

1. With the SW exploit segwit coins will be unmovable at first, current transactions, then the coins resting in sw addresses and at last any coin ever moved through a sw address is frozen.  Exchanges with coin in SW addresses may become insolvent.

2. Stick to Bitcoin fundamentals, decentralize not follow the herd, flock or mob. Everyone needs to do his own homework.

3. Yes

4. No

Core devs know the problems with segwit
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6qftjc/holy_shit_greg_maxwell_and_peter_todd_both_just/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=bitcoincashSV&utm_content=t3_dgbb1t


Segregated witnesses separates transaction information about what coins were transferred from the information proving those transfers were legitimate.
The precondition to creating a new block is the data of the last  block, the witness.

If you belief to be the 10th owner of a stolen car and the 5th owner has stolen it, when it is established that this is the case you will lose the car and the last lawful owner (4th) will get it back.
This is the very basic rudimentary form of it.


107  Other / Off-topic / ‘Off-the-grid’ chat messenger app that works even without internet connection on: November 22, 2019, 04:51:40 PM
Does anyone here use ‘Off-the-grid’ chat messenger app that works even without internet connection, using the phone.
If so whats the experience and how often you use it.
Is it for Group camping, natural disaster situations, when the monthly mobile data plan expired, Mass protest or no internet, on airplane, train or station when you and your friend are not seated together, During a disaster, flood, hurricane, tornado, earthquake and etc

Which one you use:
Bridgefy     https://youtu.be/tWefBK014us
FireChat
The Serval Mesh (Android only)
Briar (Android only)
Vojer (iOS only)
or other?
108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Overpopulation of a developing country is one of its major problem on: November 22, 2019, 04:19:55 PM

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Overpopulation of a developing country is one of its major problem
Garbage,
Japan old age people diapers about to outsell baby diapers. Lots of virgin up to mid thirties, company is more important as a companion.
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LiteCoin or ETHEREUM? Best Investment option. on: November 22, 2019, 03:29:51 PM
LTC over -50% in one month, no development, sagging active wallets for 2 years, no mission, declining transaction for the past halve year......
110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin can not become a global currency on: November 22, 2019, 10:41:35 AM
There are several reasons why any decentralized cryptocurrency cannot become a world currency. States and their banks need certain guarantees that the means of payment used will not depreciate sharply. A decentralized cryptocurrency, including bitcoin, just can not give any guarantee to participants in financial relations. For any state, bitcoin is alien, not backed by the authority and obligations of any state. Well, an important role is played by large price volatility and very low possible state control over financial flows in cryptocurrency.
Not good respond from country with bitcoin become legal currency I think why bitcoin con not become global currency for the future, when many country have legal using bitcoin as currency I think bitcoin will be better become global currency payment. I think weakness of bitcoin become global currency with take long term for sending and receiving payment.
I think bitcoin will be difficult to legalize as a global currency, high inflation makes people think about that coupled with a sizable transaction fee. I think bitcoin remains a suitable asset for the global market

What?, high inflation, Bitcoin does not inflate.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197106.msg53006960#msg53006960
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2019, 06:59:36 AM
1 Gigawatt Bitcoin Mine Under Construction in Texas Would Dwarf Bitmain’s.

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The mine would ramp up to full capacity through 2020, with 300 megawatts of power slated to come online in the first quarter and the full 1 gigawatt scheduled for the fourth quarter.


who was talking about miner capitulation?  Huh
That is a big raspberry pi, or will that used to mine Bitcoin ?
How many average Joe miner will be able to compete with this type of miners?
Data-center?
112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2019, 06:42:55 PM
Reason for the market turbulence
https://cointelegraph.com/news/markets-crash-after-reports-that-binances-shangai-office-closed-in-crypto-crackdown
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 21, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
Google’s patent library confirms nChain has been granted the patent for Blockchain-enforced Smart Contracts.
While nChain has a total of 826 filed patents, 1,450 in the pipeline and around 200 granted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbN2dy_uWg&feature=youtu.be

All good to protect BitCoin

Incl BitCoin Script and it's Turing Completness

All good to ensure the only open blockchain will be used properly

Scalable

Transparent

-> will trigger lots of haters

 Cool
Haters are triggered a long time ago.

something else to rise blood pressure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Lb4xClEYY
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kaching-secure-bitcoin-wallet#/
114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Epstein faked his death. on: November 21, 2019, 09:12:46 AM

His only brother will inherit the 540 million fortune, aka confirming the 540 indeed are mine now, that is him, confirmed.
https://truepundit.com/video-epstein-medical-examiner-drops-autopsy-bombshell-no-dna-test-conducted-to-confirm-epsteins-identity/

Months old, but Rudy Giuliani on Epstein's 'mind-boggling' death: It's impossible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-mkuQ9eq4
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 21, 2019, 08:56:35 AM
Google’s patent library confirms nChain has been granted the patent for Blockchain-enforced Smart Contracts.
While nChain has a total of 826 filed patents, 1,450 in the pipeline and around 200 granted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbN2dy_uWg&feature=youtu.be
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC Ever Increase the Block Size Cap? on: November 21, 2019, 08:35:04 AM
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Satoshi didn't have a 1MB limit in it.
The limit was originally Hal Finney's idea.  Both Satoshi and I objected that it wouldn't scale at 1MB.  Hal was concerned about a potential DoS attack though, and after discussion, Satoshi agreed.  The 1MB limit was there by the time Bitcoin launched.  But all 3 of us agreed that 1MB had to be temporary because it would never scale.  -Ray Dillinger

October 04, 2010
Satoshi explains how to remove the limit:

117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and quantum computing dangers on: November 20, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
The pink unicorn of analog computing, if the thing existed much more serious the would would have to deal with as bitcoin password issues.
118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin can not become a global currency on: November 20, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Hi, Gents,

I think there has to be a way to create a tracking system for bitcoin. Every wallet must contain ids. Otherwise, bitcoin can be always used for money laundering. If you want to launder money, you can find a cash seller everywhere. After bitcoin is bought, noone can prove whose bitcoin it is. I think this is the only think that preventing bitcoin to become a global currency. Do you think it would worth this much if it is trackable. I dont think so. There will be altcoins that work with tracking system and ids. They will become a global currency. Bitcoin? I think never. What do you think?
You confuse BTC with Bitcoin and laundering is only possible when you cash out, blockchain records are "forever".
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC Ever Increase the Block Size Cap? on: November 20, 2019, 05:25:36 PM
Sig tells you all about scaling without LN altcoin.
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: November 20, 2019, 02:44:52 PM
XRP price is like claiming a piece of string is long, it is some imaginary number, Ripple has manipulated xrp price since day one.
Tax payments for sold xrp does not match supply changes, only a matter of time for legal implications.
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