Думаете Россия сможет что-то взять еще? Караматорск и Славянск не досягаем, а вы о территориях каких-то.
Я думаю в 2024 году Россия возьмёт Краматорск, Славянск, Одессу, Николаев, Днепропетровск, Харьков, Сумы и Киев. Почему так думаете? Взять тот же 2022 год, когда был эффект неожиданности, костяк сильных контрактников, отлично экипированных, куча свежей техники и то, не смогли ничего взять даже когда такой массой навилились. А тут оборона Украины изо дня в день улучшается, а армия РФ уже потеряла ту мощь. Не думаю, что, что-то получится, думаю Авдеевку захватят и продвинутся еще на пару сел и все, это максимум. Потому что Россия выполнила свой план по набору добровольцев-контрактников в 2023 году, а Украина свой план мобилизации с треском провалила. Сейчас у России более чем двукратный перевес в живой силе на линии баивого соприкосновения, думаю это и будет решающий фактор. |
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Думаете Россия сможет что-то взять еще? Караматорск и Славянск не досягаем, а вы о территориях каких-то.
Я думаю в 2024 году Россия возьмёт Краматорск, Славянск, Одессу, Николаев, Днепропетровск, Харьков, Сумы и Киев. |
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Ukraine has the image of fighting courageously against the greatest threat to participative regimes currently (yes that Ruzzzzia). They are not only "beggars" they are the people who can hold the Orcs in the frontline - I do not like to put it this way, but they are fucking heroes, while the rest of the world is just watching the game from the side-lines. Paying money is nothing compared to paying life.
This was last season. And now, after the failure of the counter-offensive, Ukraine has turned into a loser beggar that no one wants to deal with. And next season you will probably learn to spell the word “Russia” correctly, or even start singing “Ave, Putin!” in the morning.  As per you choice ... yes I am sure you think is better to surrender. You have already done it: It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti Stop your empty moralizing. After Arakhamia’s recent interview, in which he publicly revealed the details of the failed negotiations with Russia in April 2022, this is all meaningless. Russia only needed neutrality from Ukraine, as a legally enshrined absence of plans for external aggression. And now Ukraine will have to surrender, lose significant territories and hundreds of thousands of lives. And there is no one to blame for this but themselves. |
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Hey there fellas.
Haven't been here for a while and just noticed that so-called Russian has become a moderator of this section. Things are so bad here that Russians aren't only not banned but are allowed to moderate serious topics by the standards of this forum?
Judging by this recent post, he lives in Europe and sympathizes with Ukraine. So it's okay, my little fucking Nazi. |
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Ukraine doesn’t produce artillery shells at all and spends 5,000 shells a day, doesn’t anything bother you about this strategy? Both of those statements are wrong. , while they're using similar amounts just in one day. BTW, there isn't much talk about it, but South Korea suppoied more shells to Ukraine than all EU countries combined. Impressive from Korean perspective, sad from European: https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231205000300315Russia producing 85 000 shells is impressive, but when you're spending whole month production in 4-5 days, that's probably not something to brag about. What a nice attempt at substitution of concepts. Okay, I'll clarify. Ukraine is in dire need of 155 mm NATO standard artillery shells; their production in Ukraine is zero. South Korea is armed to their teeth. Simply by sending whatever is about to date-expire is already a huge help. Your point about 155MM being is short supply is wrong, there is plenty, it just may be that countries around the world are not going to provide 100% of it to Ukraine. Perhaps I will reveal amazing news for you, but the entire Ukrainian counter-offensive became possible largely thanks to the supply of artillery shells from South Korea. Of course, South Korea could put more, but it has a direct and obvious threat in the form of North Korea, so South Korea is forced to think first about its own security. So, Ukraine is in need of nearly anything that shoots or explodes. Shells, planes, air defence, tanks, BMP, IFVs, Howis, missiles, ships,... It would seem however that they are perfectly able to destroy mechanised attacks and to rain drones or cluster as needed. Yes, some Ruzzian attacks advance 50 meter, 100 meter,... but you look at the videos and aerial recon material and you will see a heap of ZZbodies and plenty of rusty iron destroyed.
Of course, Ukraine needs both, and the third, and the fifth, and the tenth. Ukraine has already become fully entrenched in its image as a global beggar. But look, the fact is that aid is blocked in the US an EU, but it will eventually be unblocked. It is billions in help and it is quite a decent military equipment. You now have to place your hopes in that not arriving to the frontline.
Yep, after the New Year, a golden rain of Western financial and military assistance will immediately fall on Ukraine again. Or not. Personally, I would prefer the former, defeating a weak enemy who is unable to fight does not bring much honor. |
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Ukraine doesn’t produce artillery shells at all and spends 5,000 shells a day, doesn’t anything bother you about this strategy? Both of those statements are wrong. , while they're using similar amounts just in one day. BTW, there isn't much talk about it, but South Korea suppoied more shells to Ukraine than all EU countries combined. Impressive from Korean perspective, sad from European: https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231205000300315Russia producing 85 000 shells is impressive, but when you're spending whole month production in 4-5 days, that's probably not something to brag about. What a nice attempt at substitution of concepts. Okay, I'll clarify. Ukraine is in dire need of 155 mm NATO standard artillery shells; their production in Ukraine is zero. |
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Russia is producing 85,000 shells a month right now
Russia spends about 20,000 artillery shells daily
Nothing could possibly go wrong with this brilliant strategy. Ukraine doesn’t produce artillery shells at all and spends 5,000 shells a day, doesn’t anything bother you about this strategy? |
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A really good target is 85,000 rounds per month, which the US plans to achieve within five years. In other words, the US is five years behind Russia in artillery shell production because Russia is producing 85,000 shells a month right now. Try to learn to live with this thought - Russia produces approximately the same amount of artillery shells as all the countries of the collective West combined. I could almost believe you... if it weren't for that little visit to North Korea by your Chief Psychopath asking the very powerful kingdom, of roughly 25 million people to please supply shells so that the Ruzzian slave army could keep on pushing. Things do not collapse until they collapse, so keep on banking on "global attrition of shells" it may be the only thing you have left to hope for. This is a high-intensity military conflict, Russia spends about 20,000 artillery shells daily, and Ukraine about 5,000 artillery shells per day. I hope you have not yet lost the ability to do basic arithmetic in order to independently balance daily spending and monthly production. |
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There must be some truth to this story.
I think it’s no secret that the continuous flow of illegal migrants across the border with Mexico is the only hope for Biden to win the upcoming presidential election. This is why he so persistently refuses to solve this problem, risking a government shutdown and a complete freeze of aid to Ukraine. |
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A really good target is 85,000 rounds per month, which the US plans to achieve within five years. In other words, the US is five years behind Russia in artillery shell production because Russia is producing 85,000 shells a month right now. Try to learn to live with this thought - Russia produces approximately the same amount of artillery shells as all the countries of the collective West combined. |
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Согласен на все 100%. Рано или поздно, но прокол случиться. Да, на данный момент сложно предъявить "обвинения" из-за недостатка фактологии, но наблюдать все же нужно за этой личностью.
Бгг, у Фруктика пубертатный пушок прорезался и начала расти обвинялка. Чувак, технически ты иноагент, который кормится здесь из кормушки миксерного криминального бабла и сам давно уже на красном карандаше. Подумай об этом на досуге, особенно когда в следующий раз опять соберёшься задонатить на победу ВСУ. |
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Something peculiar is happening with the SUs airplanes lately. There is no official confirmation of what is happening or if there is a new system in place or an improvement of an existing system or perhaps a SAM battery placed near the frontline, but it seems that Ruzzia is losing planes beyond what you may expect by the usual trends. There may be something out there that has not been officially been "transferred to Ukraine".
Are you having mental wet dreams again? This is doubly funny, considering that Ukraine literally lost half of its combat aircraft fleet in just a couple of months (after Russia successfully modernized its radar reconnaissance aircraft), and the issue of transferring F16 fighters to Ukraine was put on pause after the victory in the Netherlands of the far-right opponent of military aid to Ukraine. How are the crossings of the Dnieper going? Do the Ukrainian marines feel good at the Krynki bridgehead? |
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Опа А что за новая риторика, что якобы Украина хамасу продает что-то? Новые методички из лахты подвезли? Насчёт "спиздить" значит никаких идейных возражений нету, понятно. |
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"Денег нет, но вы держитесь!" (с) Опять новости из хер пойми откуда, уже выделили Украине помощь) Да чё там выделили, на 175 мегабаксов? Это не помощь, а утешительный приз - оттуда толком ни спиздить, ни баивикам Хамаса не перепродать. Ещё и в Госдепе заявили, что дескать возможно это самый последний транш. Вообще во всех прогрессивных демократических западных изданиях Украину жёстко сливают в последнее время, видимо готовят общественность чтобы у обывателей не было травмирующего культурного шока. Кстати! Никто не следит как развиваются события в Венесуэлле? Как вам фокус с отжатием Гаяны?  Мадуро конечно красавчик - провёл референдум на своей территории, выпустил карту Венесуэлы с новым штатом и дескать вуалябля. |
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"Денег нет, но вы держитесь!" (с) Вдвойне занятно, что законопроект о выделении помощи побрили наголо не в "республиканском" Конгрессе, а в "демократическом" Сенате - вот уж зрада так зрада. И всё это на фоне вчерашнего визита Путина в Абу-Даби и Эр Риад, где Темнейшего приняли как самого дорогого гостя - с кавалерией на верблюдах, пушечным салютом и российским триколором в небе, нарисованным пилотажной группой на истребителях Ф16. |
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Я не про это, я про то, что большая группа мерзких потребителей, которые попадают в ту самую группу, о которой говорилось как основных потребителей миксеров, почемуто миксеры не использовали А ! Это да, эти персонажи действительно мразь. И те кто делает и распространяе всю эту погань им место в тюряге однозначно. То что раскрыли сеть это конечно правильно, ну а учасники они просто идиоты, собственно и так понятно, что они без мозгов, что потребляют всю эту эту дрянь. Чего уж там говорить об их покупках биткоина. Они наверное про миксеры и не слыхали никогда. Хорошо конечно что раскопали этих ублюдков и впаяли по полной. Чем хорош грядущий запрет рекламы миксеров - возможно форум очистится от беспонтовых подписных спамеров. Я проконсультировался с другими модераторами (в том числе с глобальными) и мы пришли к тому, что и изменение ника цитируемого, и изменение текста цитаты приравнивается к троллингу ( пункт 3) и такой пост подлежит либо удалению, либо возврату цитаты к первоначальному виду (чтобы не удалять пост). |
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Your point was that Ruzzia was having plenty of income, I showed how it is having plenty of expenses caused by the war. The way the deficit is balanced as anywhere else is by cutting on social expenditure (LOL). There is no magic trick. Also, I guess you consider as ok to have Moscow airport closed for hours or even days due to drone risks and factories blown-up from time to time, ...
You are lying, the social part of the budget in Russia was not cut in 2022 and 2023, and at least for the next three years the Russian budget will remain socially oriented. I’ll tell you more, the budget for next year in Russia is a development budget. Stop fantasizing, Western sanctions against Russia have failed, just like the Ukrainian counter-offensive. Find the courage to face reality. Today Putin flew to Abu Dhabi and in his honor F16 fighters painted the Russian tricolor in the sky lol. Regarding the numbers you provide... well, you know... if you say so. In any case people joining Wagner which is NOT new and has been operating for at least a decade all over Africa speaks of the need of the poorer regions to make their living even if it risk being killed.
Your words only confirm your complete ignorance of the subject of the conversation. I'm talking about volunteers who enter into contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense, not about Wagner. |
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A classic mistake, looking only at the income and not to the expenditure: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blood-billions-cost-russias-war-ukraine-2023-08-23/The paper cited officials from the United States, which supports Ukraine, as saying as many as 120,000 Russian troops have been killed and 170,000 to 180,000 injured, with Ukraine's military toll at 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded. Russia has doubled its 2023 defence spending target to more than $100 billion - a third of all public expenditure - a government document reviewed by Reuters showed, as the costs of the war in Ukraine spiral and place growing strain on Moscow's finances.
As Russia's military spending soars and sanctions squeeze its energy revenues, Moscow faces a battle to keep its budget deficit in check. But regardless, not my thinking, but actual results of polls, to the extent you can believe in polls in Ruzzia. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/russians-support-for-peace-talks-with-ukraine-grows-after-unrest-poll-shows-1.1939760From your own source of news  Lol, at the end of this year the budget deficit in Russia is about 1.5%. Against the backdrop of the huge problems with financing Ukraine that the United States and the European Union are experiencing right now, your attempts to convince me that it is Russia that is experiencing any financial difficulties look especially ridiculous. As for the loss of manpower, it’s always unpleasant. But in 2023, for the first time in its history, Russia formed a mercenary contract army, to which at least 20 thousand people a month voluntarily join, and now Russia has a significant advantage in manpower over Ukraine, if we count the directly involved soldiers on the contact line. |
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I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.
It seems to be news to you that Kremlin is lying most of the time, including about how they're pissing away your country for no reason other than misplaced ambitions of a deranged gnome. Or you know it and just don't care. You know a lot about false accusations; for me personally this is not news. It seems that the word “denazification” in relation to Ukraine especially touches a nerve with you, but among the goals of Russia’s special military operation this is not the main thing, “demilitarization” has higher priority, and the neutral non-aligned military status of Ukraine is the most important thing that Russia wants from Ukraine. And of course this goal will be achieved. Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.
I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.
In the case of geographically close countries in different weight categories, this works like gravity - you cannot just decide to choose a different source of influence, this will inevitably have consequences. |
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