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1001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 11:17:51 PM
^Oh. This is a fork of the fork. I see. Thanks Jay.

Below are the logos of three completely separate and different coins. Your confusion is understandable because I can’t tell the difference either.  

Wise Jbear will be along shortly to explain how these are completely different logos and not at all misleading.

Any moment now...



1002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 10:48:27 PM
Oh hi Jbear.  Hope you had a nice weekend.

Seeing as you raised the topic, this is a great opportunity for you to answer the question instead of continuing to avoid it.  

Please do try to respond to the question rather than raising another question or going off on a tangent.  



What is the difference between these two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?

You have said such a practice is dishonest.  
1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 09:35:03 AM
Account verified by CQ
1004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 09:30:31 AM
I hope you are feeling ok this morning micgoossens after a night of crazy drunkenness & good foods. Happy B’day to the lovely CQ.

I don’t give a fuck about Mic but I do hope CQ is feeling ok.  
1005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
(This weekend has not been good for me, one of the Maine Coon has gone to a better life, R.I.P., 17 years, the last 2 years medicating daily every 12 hours, diabetic, great hunter, a strong animal that has resisted until last minute.)

BTC 8,322

Waiting for the movement.

Very sorry for your loss VB. At least you gave him a happy and very long life (17 years sure is for cat) at your side.

Yes sorry VB. Tis not easy.  On the upside 17 in cat years is good innings and life well lived.

In other news, I need to learn the difference between VB and V8.  
1006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2019, 06:06:45 AM
Volume and volatility are both tracking down quite low.   Typically a forewarning of a big move - calm before the storm.
1007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 11:35:17 PM
Seeing as you are playing dumb:

What is the difference between the two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?  A practice which you have just said is dishonest.  

However, there indeed was a question in my reply. Which you conveniently ignored.

Distraction technique.  Duck, weave, obfuscate.  

So fucking weak.

Tell me... Exactly what is the authoritative organization that has deemed the presented artwork as the official BTC logo? Hmmmm?

Not addressing the question but asking a different question. Duck, weave, obfuscate.

I will grant that that logo has some aspect of 'bitcoin-ness' to it. I will not grant that BTC has any higher claim upon that 'bitcoin-ness' than does BCH, let alone BSV.

Not addressing the question but raising a different issue. Duck, weave, obfuscate.



Answer the question.  

What is the difference between the two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?  A practice which you have just said is dishonest.  
1008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 08:55:35 PM
US Vaping deaths resemble WWI mustard gas exposure

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/lung-damage-vaping-chemical-burn-mustard-gas-a9133711.html
1009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 05:50:57 PM
There are some pretty severe security concerns around Casa Hodl at the moment. 

https://twitter.com/jwweatherman_/status/1182486419580866560?s=21
1010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
Seeing as you are playing dumb:

What is the difference between the two logos and how is not deliberately misleading / confusing to newbies ?  A practice which you have just said is dishonest.  

However, there indeed was a question in my reply. Which you conveniently ignored.

Distraction technique.  Duck, weave, obfuscate. 
1011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
You forgot the bit where the big blockers try to fool newbies into thinking Bcash lol and BSV are Bitcoin.

Quite a different proposition than trying to fool newbies into thinking BCH or BSV are BTC. But nobody is doing that. That would be dishonest.

How about addressing the substance of my post which you have selectively cut off?

Your entire value proposition is based on fraud.  

One of these logos is a BSV logo.  One of these logos is a Bitcoin logo.  I can’t tell the difference so I can’t see how a newbie could.  This is plainly fraudulent passing off.  



It is more than dishonest. It is fraudulent.

It appears that you have no inkling of IP law. What makes you think BTC has exclusive claim on public domain art?

Fabulous, completely irrelevant reply. Nice duck.

How about you address the substance of the question ?   Or are you going to pretend you don’t understand the question ?
1012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 10:32:40 AM
Oh go on then
1013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 10:16:49 AM
Fair comment, particularly for the Russians, but I’m not volunteering as guinea pig. 
1014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 09:56:51 AM
From the Canadian article

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The commitment promotes non-proliferation by removing existing weapons-grade material from Canada

Guarantee the Canadians forget to hand some back.
1015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 09:29:15 AM
Any sophisticated Western country could build a nuclear weapon in less than a fortnight if it wanted to, including countries that have never had nukes.  

Nope, uranium enrichment is a large industrial undertaking and very time consuming.


They already have it.

http://www.silex.com.au/SILEX-Laser-Uranium-Enrichment-Technology

https://nuclearsafety.gc.ca/eng/reactors/research-reactors/nuclear-facilities/chalk-river/highly-enriched-uranium-in-canada.cfm
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
If you are building nukes to break the NPT, I think you are past caring about the US. 
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 08:59:30 AM
Any sophisticated Western country could build a nuclear weapon in less than a fortnight if it wanted to, including countries that have never had nukes.  

Delivery systems would take a bit longer - but all have bombers / military cargo craft. 
1018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 07:19:51 AM
Credit Suisse starts charging negative 0.6% interest on deposits over $500k and negative 0.75% interest on deposits over $2 million

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The current negative interest rate will be communicated to you on request.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/media/assets/private-banking/docs/ch/unternehmen/kmugrossunternehmen/cash-deposit-konto-en.pdf



Paywall:  https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/banks-and-business-wrangle-with-zero-interest-rate-floors-20191011-p52zs6
1019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 06:42:45 AM

[A reaction to china coin launch in a few days/weeks?]

US is about to experience yet another "sputnik" moment.
In the 60ies it was a smart response: NASA, lunar missions, science education in schools.
What now? I not confident at all that a response would be intelligent this time around.


Trump can be Laika
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2019, 05:31:50 AM
IMHO, you fellas should ease up on jbreher.
He is NOT R. Ver or craig W, clearly.  
An engineer and/or scientist, no doubt.

I root for the proper btc, but the jury is still open on whether LN would behave when we stress it with 100s of millions if not billions of users.
BTW, personally, i like second layer solutions like LN more, but I am perfectly willing to listen to the opposite opinion.

Jbear and the Bcash crowd would be ok if they sought competitive differentiation.  That's what competitors do.  They say 'our product is different and better'.  They have logos / brands which are instantly visibly distinguishable.  They make their product stand on its own merits. Jbear doesn't do that.  He pretends that his coin is 'Satoshi's Vision'.  He pretends that it much closer to the 'original Bitcoin' than 'Segwit coin'.  He says things like:

One of the things that makes BSV good is that it is being incrementally returned to the original Bitcoin protocol.

Jbear is not seeking competitive differentiation.  He is seeking to pass his shitcoin off as the original Bitcoin.  And I have no tolerance for shills, frauds or charlatans.
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