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1241  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 08:08:39 PM
How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing

Yet interestingly, all fully supported in the 0.1 version of the Bitcoin protocol. You know, before the Cripple Rangers took control of the codebase. SegWit, on the other hand...

Funny, eh?

So what's the point you are trying to make?

My mistake.  I couldn't see any evidence of them in the white paper.  Thank you for clarifying that it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper.

That is not what I said at all. Are you really that blind that you do not see what I am getting at? Even with your introduction of demonstrably flawed sidebars?

The initial implementation of Bitcoin - 0.1 supports all the features you list. Without recourse to explicit enabling code.
The initial implementation of Bitcoin -- and including up to and through the SegWit Omnibus Changeset Release -- did not support SegWit. Neither explicitly nor as an external implementation. Indeed, the implementation of SegWit was predicated on the most egregious change to the Bitcoin protocol ever enacted.
The features you list did not / do not require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.
SegWit did / does require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.

So when you say "it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper", you're neither right nor wrong. What matters is the protocol itself. SegWit was undeniably a change to that protocol. A rather significant one. Therefore, somewhat 'less Bitcoin-y' -- at least on this axis -- than other implementations which hew to the original.

On the other hand, if some element is decidedly counter to the white paper (chain of digital signatures, anyone?), then that indeed does matter.

It’s hard to keep track of what you were saying when you keep changing it. 

And for that matter, Segwit was a softfork....  Beecash was a hard fork...
1242  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 11:51:22 AM
1243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: September 08, 2019, 10:50:41 AM
Ok if it was going to bounce off that volume spike, it would have bounced by now.  It’s taking too long to go up.  

Down we go.    0.00019130 at the moment
1244  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 09:39:36 AM
Found it.  28 feet away against the wall.  Under a rubbish bin.
1245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 06:10:15 AM
If you drop a small steel nut onto a polished concrete floor from a height of 8 feet how far can it go?
1246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 05:11:22 AM
How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing

Yet interestingly, all fully supported in the 0.1 version of the Bitcoin protocol. You know, before the Cripple Rangers took control of the codebase. SegWit, on the other hand...

Funny, eh?

So what's the point you are trying to make?

My mistake.  I couldn't see any evidence of them in the white paper.  Thank you for clarifying that it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper.
1247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 12:10:56 AM
Multi-year perspective

1248  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 12:08:16 AM
Our current giant bull flag

1249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 12:05:51 AM
Golden cross.  Cheesy
Without it, I know Bitcoin will do have to reconsolidate, for months. In my opinion, its reconsolidation will not finish earlier than late of December this year. From that month, bitcoin might jump into its new bullish trend, that might be triggered officially in later half of March in 2020.

I believe we will have a rally in October that will push us higher.  It is certainly within the realms of possibility, although unlikely, that we could go sideways from here all the way to June 2020.  But I don't think that will happen. 
1250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2019, 12:02:05 AM
A fractal view

1251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 11:52:44 PM
Golden cross on the weekly, as the 30 week (green) crosses the 100 week (orange) from below.  In 2015, this golden cross occurred during a period of extended consolidation.  In 2019, this cross occurs during a period of extended consolidation...

1252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 10:17:25 PM
There's a lot of evidence that Segwit is the alteration. Read the docs, the white paper
The same evidence that CSW is satoshi?

WTF are you on about? How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing
1253  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 07:58:53 AM
I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.
It feels so good to hear that 80% of chances to increase. Kiss

Anyway I am not selling anything in the near future but I am worried that whenever I invest on the bitcoin there is sudden dump immediately.

Am I the most unluckiest man in this world? Cry


You are here, so you are very lucky (as are we).

You just need to shift your mindset to a minimum of five years.
1254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 06:35:48 AM
I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.

I agree with everything that you said, hairy not so much a berry anymore, except the 80% part in the end of your speech....

Personally, as you likely realize, I am a bit of a 50/50 kind of a guy, so maybe I would change your 80% to 58%, and that is deviating quite a bit from my usual 50/50 position and I even feel a bit nervous coming out with such a strong level of deviation from my usual non-commitment...  Wink

I blame you for that.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Halvening is in May. We are in a macro bullmarket. 

Be like Elsa, man.
1255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2019, 05:48:57 AM
I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.
1256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: September 07, 2019, 12:53:44 AM
Possible entry point based on volume spike.  I am not going to enter because I am not feeling the vibe - but at an intellectual level there is a chance that this is a bottoming event.

It would be more convincing if the volume spike was double all previous volume.

1257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2019, 10:53:26 PM
Bull flag update:  we are smack in the middle of the flag.

1258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2019, 10:05:58 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?

That would mean you have been here 18years  Wink

It just feels that way
1259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2019, 10:00:17 PM
Activity points are 1 per week active posting?
1260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
because majority didn't take me seriously.

And they shouldn't. What you say is just meaningless gibberish. It could go up or it could go down. Of course, it won't go left or right.

If you'd like to be taken seriously you have to say if you're long or short? What are your take profit and stop loss levels? The rest is just blah blah blah.


Long.

No stops.  

Liquidation somewhere sub $3k.

Take profit over $180k.  

Best of luck shaking me out of my position.
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