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1001  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Expect the Orginals game to get even bigger - actual games on: January 10, 2024, 10:28:59 AM
In the last year, I have noticed the following situation repeatedly in the Bitcoin community:

- Ordinal users broadcast their transactions.
- Suddenly, users panic and deem Bitcoin as non-usable (which is partly true).
- Users propose solutions, most of which include the censorship of Ordinals.
- Nobody does a thing in response.
- A new wave of Ordinals is broadcasted.

Somehow, people believe that complaining on Internet boards about this will magically fix it. If you cannot propose a viable solution, or implement it, then chances are, it won't fix itself. Censoring Ordinals, at least at this point, is not a solution. Maybe you disagree with me, but I don't find it appropriate for a censorship resistant network to censor transactions that don't pass the "monetary transaction" check of some.

When you talk about a free market, i personally think this market would also need an alternative... Even if this means a fork... If you agree with the fact ordinals are abusing a vulnerabilty, use the "bitcoin" fork, mine on the bitcoin fork, have bitcoin fork wallet,...
Here you go. That is absolutely acceptable. The thing is: will it find support? Financially and in terms of development. Because as far as history is concerned, Bitcoin forks don't go well.

A better suggestion would be to opt out to a reputable altcoin, like Monero. At least for small amount of transactions. It already has support and a dynamical block size limit.
1002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the kind of world you want to live in? [read] on: January 10, 2024, 08:31:18 AM
What is mean for a currency to be "censorship resistant"?
Not the currency. The network in general. Nobody can censor me from sending and receiving bitcoin.

In what way are, say, US Dollars not "censorship resistant" for instance?
In cash? None. Via the Internet? They have to pass through a financial institution which imposes their own rules, all of which can censor transactions.

What does "permissionless" mean?
Nobody can prohibit you from setting up a Bitcoin wallet. Nobody grants you permission to access Bitcoin.

I certainly get that it's denationalized. That's not a very strong benefit to the consumer though per se.
But, again. I'm not arguing for the benefit of the consumer. I'm arguing for the fundamentals that maintain this network's integrity. A Bitcoin standard would promote reduced state intervention and cater to individual preferences. It essentially embodies the ideal vision of every libertarian intellectual from the 20th century.
1003  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the kind of world you want to live in? [read] on: January 09, 2024, 10:58:58 PM
Well, in actual reality, crypto has failed to achieve anything besides being another financial instrument to invest in.
It hasn't failed being censorship resistant. It hasn't failed being permissionless. It remains denationalized, and resistant to arbitrary monetary policy from the state.

And frankly, that's all we have in our disposal. The moment Bitcoin stops being resistant and permissionless is the very moment it has turned into fiat. It probably will not, because it is designed to not require extensive effort to work. But that does not mean we should completely ignore every potential threat.
1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the kind of world you want to live in? [read] on: January 09, 2024, 09:25:36 PM
The good news is that investors don't care about this, and invest in cryptos anyhow as a pure speculation instrument. It's not about "freedom", it's about buying low and selling high.
Yes, but we don't care about the profit as much as the crypto-anarchist virtues. Do we? 'Cause I thought this whole reinvention of money had to do with replacing the current fiat system with something superior, less prone to corruption.

Profit gains are without doubt good news, but if we don't think about these virtues and act accordingly, then we're no different from just another financial scheme.

GMail is the first kind of "private", because it's absolutely private unless there is a court order.
Google is literally the privacy nightmare of Web2. You can probably keep your documents private from a family member or a friend, but in general? Google lives off your data.
1005  Other / Meta / Re: Mixers to be banned on: January 09, 2024, 05:32:49 PM
Am I allowed to suggest other users to use Mixers as a way to Privacy?
You're allowed. Discussion around mixers is allowed, and so is suggestion (e.g., I suggest you to look on that mixer from Jambler or BitMixList). What is not allowed is to promote them in signature space, avatar and personal text, or to post their URL using obfuscation techniques that would bypass their word filter measure.

I am allowed to mention Mixers unless their name is their website and I am allowed to discuss about them freely.  Right?
You're allowed to say "foomixer". You're not allowed to direct people to "https://foomixer.com". Probably just as you're allowed to say "Pirate bay", but prohibited from linking to their dark web URL.

Disclaimer that I'm not a mod, but this is what I understand from my jurisdiction.
1006  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the kind of world you want to live in? [read] on: January 09, 2024, 03:05:22 PM
It is still hawkish in banning privacy coins, banning mixers, etc.
Maybe I'm wrong on this, but there is no official regulation that makes it blatantly clear the EU is hostile to Monero (AKA, the only truly private coin). It's just centralized exchanges voluntarily de-listing it, similar as to how theymos prohibited the promotion of mixers. But, again; I may be wrong.

Don't get me wrong. I very much believe the EU will try to hunt it down as much as possible (even if censorship in Monero isn't possible), but at the moment I just observe exchanges de-listing it as precaution.

Crypto privacy is the last weapon you have against financial corruption.
I disagree. Legislation can bypass it. Currently, they're trying to control bitcoin via legislation (e.g., KYC). If it ever becomes illegal to transact peer-to-peer, and you need to hold everything on a fully regulated KYC-ed exchange, it won't matter if the cryptocurrency is private.

I hate to say this, but the only way to fight back legislation is by itself. That means, voting for politicians that are against this crypto dystopia.
1007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will any other coins like Bitcoin be discovery in the future? on: January 09, 2024, 12:44:58 PM
"The paradox of cryptocurrencies: Coins are scarce, but currencies abundant."-- Naval.

I very much doubt we will ever have another Bitcoin. The technology is here. People are building on top of it. Instead of trying to find the next killer-shitcoin which will "bring the revolution" (AKA, the sweet profits), stack some sats. The only other cryptocurrency I can confidently sell my sats for, is Monero.
1008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we even need bitcoin mixers? on: January 09, 2024, 10:20:04 AM
I think one of those rug-pull decentralized exchanges is Swaprum’s that did a rug-pull exist and stole funds of the users.
That was a DeFi exchange, not a decentralized. No truly decentralized exchange offers farming rewards, staking pools, referral programs and a shit-token called SARP. And as already said, if an exchange is decentralized, it does not take custody.

I am glad that Satoshi doesn't build Bitcoin as a privacy coin because the hate will be much more than what we are seeing today, the government will even have more reason to want to kill Bitcoin, it will be called the criminal's digital money and it will fits just well.
Similar thoughts as well. Anonymity, or even just privacy, being optional is good, depending on how you look at it. Sure, I'd rather have protocol privacy by default, but if to accomplish that I'd have to turn Bitcoin in an "underground" currency, then we better split into separate networks (Bitcoin, Monero) and freely choose what fits us best afterwards.
1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we even need bitcoin mixers? on: January 08, 2024, 05:52:07 PM
The exchanges especially decentralized exchanges can't be trusted because they can be rug-pull schemes. I have seen many decentralized exchanges that scammed their users and took a rug-pull type of exit. That's another reason to not trust the decentralized exchanges.
Then they weren't truly decentralized. If you're referring to the well-known DeFi, 99.9% of it is not decentralized; it is not even exchange. It is just a manner to use blockchain, so you can call your activity "decentralized", where it's just you who makes up the rules.

If you want to make use of a truly decentralized exchange, check out Bisq. It runs for years and is as decentralized as it gets with the operation of a DAO: https://bisq.wiki/Main_Page.
1010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we even need bitcoin mixers? on: January 08, 2024, 02:19:59 PM
At one point, mixers were celebrated as the harbingers of liberty and privacy on the forum.
At that point, we didn't have tested, decentralized privacy tools in our disposal. Using a mixer was the easiest and sort of most reputable manner to receive fungible coins. It no longer is. Decentralized tools like Bisq, Monero, or self-custodial coinjoin software like whirlpool, are developed and used every day.

The origins need to be obfuscated so if ill-gotten/ hacked BTC is to be cashed out, you eventually need to go for a CEX which will probably need KYC.
If you really need to go through a CEX, you can still retain your privacy without buying taint. Just convert them to XMR (via Bisq) and sell the XMR.
1011  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we even need bitcoin mixers? on: January 08, 2024, 01:21:05 PM
I asked that why do we need bitcoin mixers, if there is Monero. We can change BTC to XMR and vica versa on no-KYC exchanges, and make an XMR to XMR transaction between the changes.
From my experience, when using a mixer, just as with coinjoining, you want from the observers to know you're mixing. Swapping BTC for XMR and XMR for BTC obviously provides better levels of privacy if used properly, but the outputs do not look as if they're private (from a blockchain perspective).

The next level of a fungible currency is for the coins to look the same, not only from the users to treat it likewise. For example, in whirlpool you cannot distinguish which coins comes from which user. Or, you can simply swap BTC for XMR and just stay there, which is completely fungible for obvious reasons.
1012  Other / Meta / Re: Icopress ' Merit Source Application 🚩 on: January 08, 2024, 01:05:29 PM
Give that man the merit source, please. He is more than established and competent for that position.
1013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: unconfirmed block reward from 2009 - 50 BTC - REWARD 0.1 BTC FOR HELPING on: January 07, 2024, 03:36:03 PM
After all, the miners who received the "orphaned" made a computational work...
They did offer their computational work, but this is not how it works. To receive reward, you need to work on the longest chain (difficulty-wise). The whole premise of Bitcoin is that you are incentivized to mine on the longest chain, and are disincentivized to work on the rest. If we were to follow this line of reasoning, then every time the chain reorged, we'd split into two separate currencies.
1014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Noobie -- Inbound connections? -- Am I running a full node on: January 07, 2024, 11:17:36 AM
"Full" ( in strict definition)   refers to node which is able to perform all assigned duties including relay.
Full nodes make a full verification against consensus rules. Pruned nodes, for example, are full nodes. I don't know where you've got this "strict" definition. I use the bitcoin wiki.

Also, non-incoming accepting full nodes do relay everything normally.

Literally the only difference between an inbound and an outbound connection is which node initiated it. Once the connection is made, they function identically.
Another difference is that by allowing incoming connections, you get to establish up to 125 connections by default, whereas with listen=0, up to 11.
1015  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Using QR codes as Bitcoin address protection on: January 06, 2024, 08:37:46 PM
I mean are the QR codes generated by exchanges safe for transactions?
We don't know. I'm not aware of a centralized exchange with a back-end code audit. If we are to measure security by instances of victims by such attack, then it is most likely safe; I have never heard of such a case, mostly because it doesn't make any sense. If an exchange is compromised, the attacker will empty their wallet; they will not try to convert it into their own phishing site.
1016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Noobie -- Inbound connections? -- Am I running a full node on: January 06, 2024, 07:56:12 PM
Am I running a full node?
You should be downloading blocks, yes. Do you use Bitcoin-QT (the GUI of Bitcoin Core) or bitcoind (the daemon)? If it's the former, does it seem like synchronizing? If it's the latter, does the terminal contain progress, cache, UpdateTip, new best etc.?

Strictly speaking the full node  is a node that allows incoming connection on port 8333.
"Full" refers to verification, and both incoming accepting and outgoing only nodes verify everything. Nodes that allow incoming connections are just more helpful in terms of bandwidth.
1017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: ask a reputable large mini-pool to include a transaction in block on: January 06, 2024, 10:34:17 AM
This is the dumb part of these puzzles. They were created to incentivize collision findings etc., but nobody thought of the disincentive of broadcasting the solution to the public.

I would trust ck solo pool but it could take a long time for him hit one.
To mitigate the risk of working out the private key, you should choose a pool which takes the least time to mine a block. But, on the other hand, -ck is considered very trustworthy, and is running it since 2011.
1018  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Using QR codes as Bitcoin address protection on: January 06, 2024, 10:22:55 AM
There are lots of QR code generators on the internet but you should look for the most reliable provider to use. For instance, I used this website https://www.qr-code-generator.com/[/li][/list]
Sounds like a privacy nightmare. If you want to generate QR coded addresses, use the internal function of a wallet software, like Electrum.

Hence it generates a QR code that you can download as an image.
And you should verify that the QR code actually corresponds to your address and not to theirs.

So as when your bitcoin address is requested you can just send the image for scan to prevent your Bitcoin address from being tempered with.
What prevents someone from tampering your QR coded address?



In summary, it provides no extra security, introduces more complexity, and is worse privacy-wise.
1019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone just sent 26 BTC to genesis block address on: January 06, 2024, 10:06:41 AM

(source)

Could it be some sort of Ordinal rarity nonsense? Like issuing Ordinals which fund Satoshi, and have a leaderboard with high scores, I don't know. Honestly, sending 26 bitcoin to Satoshi seems too stupid to have happened deliberately.

Burning Bitcoin? For what purpose?
Technically, it is not burned. Satoshi (or whoever owns the address) can spend that output.
1020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: unconfirmed block reward from 2009 - 50 BTC - REWARD 0.1 BTC FOR HELPING on: January 05, 2024, 03:01:54 PM
Date: 25/6/09 09:44
You can verify that no block was mined in June, 25th 2009 09:44, by looking at a block explorer. The closest to that date are blocks 18021 (09:28) and 18022 (09:53), both of which have block rewards spent.

It also seems weird that your transaction's total size is 107 bytes, given that a P2PK coinbase reward was 135 bytes.
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