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1021  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you will never become rich on: August 02, 2023, 12:15:18 PM
The first reason why you can never be rich is too much  responsibilities, carrying family problems on your head which we all know family problems are always around the corners and can't be totally eliminated. The best help to offer family is to put yourself in a better financial position,  don't struggle to help family,  struggle to put yourself in a better financial position then take away your from dependency. How do you take them away from dependency? If you have a company or business you are running or a connection,  you can connect your family members to your friends let them work for them so that they can earn their own money or you have a business you are running, they can work for you to earn their own money.  As long as their is still dependency they will continue to depend on you and demand from you.

No man, this doesn't sound right, it's like you are trying to run away from family responsibility. Whether you are a married or married to or just a single person who live alone, you have a family to look up to but there should be a limitation to this, just because you're are a bread winner or perhaps the only person who the family depends on doesn't mean you will put every responsibility on your head, you have to take the necessary ones and ignore the rest, they should take of the rest.

Would you abandon your family when they are sick because you are looking for money to become rich, will you abandon them when they are hungry; just provide them with the basic requirement of a responsible person and face your life after that. This is why you people who take the responsibilities of the families hardly reveal what they earned because doing, they will always bring all the problems to you as they know what you are worth and the pay check you get after every 30 days.

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The second reason why you can never become rich is not knowing how to use money. There are several ways money can be use :  spending,  savings,  and investing.  Many of us already know about spending and even when we spend we spend on things that are not really needed but just to impress people who don't care about you.

Buying liabilities,  things that doesn't have value five years from now.  Many save but even when money is saved,  it is done to spend and not to invest and the only way to become rich is to invest and not by savings.  So , invest in assets and not liabilities.

Knowing the difference between what you need and what you want is very important, as the right time to do and the wrong time to say no, but then because you are trying to invest in business doesn't mean you shouldn't take care of yourself, you need to stay healthy, eat a good meal, hangout and have time with others because how I understand the use of been trying to be a wealthy person and I cannot have that my life, never! I will live it to the fullest but it's going to be in a responsible manner.
1022  Economy / Economics / Re: Benefits of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to the global Economic Structure on: August 02, 2023, 11:45:06 AM
Do you know how cryptocurrencies are ruling today’s world? .
Since the arrival of cryptocurrencies, people’s lives have transformed in many ways. Nowadays, it has become more convenient for people to invest in various digital currencies. Also, many businesses are adopting cryptocurrencies as a mode of payment. When it comes to investing in digital currencies, one has to gain some knowledge. You can now take help from many websites and platforms to get started with them. Cryptocurrency trading has helped many investors earn high profits. That is why investors are interested in the same. If you also want to make enormous profits, digital currencies are the best for investments.

The Bottom Line
In conclusion, we can say that the future of cryptocurrencies is pretty good. I hope now that we understand how they are benefiting the global economy in different ways.

feel free to add yours so we all learn together.



I got some reactions from your highlights which are more speculations than a fact. The global market cap of crypto went to an all-time high of 3T+ and today, it's sitting around 1.22T which means we have lost about 68% of the market cap as loss, if you try to explain that to an economist, he will say that its a failure and not a good investment for any economic structure, but if you are specific about it the introduction as bitcoin only, then I will agree with you in some aspects.

The total market cap is equivalent to about 46% of the entire market, so if you look deeply at where that loss all went, all went down into the rabbit hole of altcoins. The majority of the losses we have today as a result of altcoin hacks, team exit and rugs, scams attempt, and many more, it has been years since we heard about bitcoin heist and hacks. Most of the people that had the loss will hardly want to have anything to do with altcoins again because they have been literally cripple, now does that help the economic structure.

All the above you mentioned and explained can be directly linked to bitcoin and bitcoin alone, like the anonymity just like the way you have good privacy, impossible penetration of hack attempts, more transparency in transactions, low transaction cost if you compare it to fiat payments, banking the unbanked areas of the world, an increase in the inflow of money to the economy especially when there is are barrier of inter payment in the country.
1023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is Not Crypto, The SEC Confirms on: August 02, 2023, 11:10:22 AM
The SEC distinguishes Bitcoin from other cryptocurrencies and considers it to be a decentralized digital cash, exempting it from the classification of "security" that applies to many other tokens.

Bitcoin, due to its decentralized nature, market cap, and lack of involvement by its founder, does not fit the criteria of a security according to them.

Strap in boys and girls. Space shuttle launch in T-minus 10 and counting...

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinrivers/2023/07/31/bitcoin-is-not-crypto-the-sec-confirms/

When Bitcoin came into existence, Gary Gensler has not even had dream that a day will come to be US SEC chairman, if his predecessor didn't recognized bitcoin as security or crypto or whatever he choose to call it, he should have known better to live bitcoin alone from the genesis. Bitcoin never did an ICO, never sold any token, never did a public offering. All the altcoins are responsible for these creativities, they should deal with it instead of bringing bitcoin along any time they tried to fight the crypto communities they feel they can toy around anytime they like.

Bitcoin sentiments aside, Isn't obvious that the US government holds bitcoin as well, I expect them to play by politics and their own rule in other to stay ahead of other investors, they have thousands of bitcoin under their custody that they are yet to sell because they see the vision of satoshi that is why they are yet to offload this Bitcoin on the market, just 2 days ago the court freed SBF of his crime for donating Bitcoin to the politicians. If that had happened to be outside the US, they will never allow the public to rest with their useless headlines and crypto hunts.
1024  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CZ Binance warns users about using Binance Exchange on: August 01, 2023, 05:53:06 PM
November 30th CZ Binance tweeted

beware of platforms that offer High APYs

and/or

have layoffs

if you don't do risk management now, don't blame others for the consequences later

fast forward to today and the headlines are about Binance laying off 1000+ employees.

So if we listen to the warning that CZ tweeted last year everybody should probably stop using Binance or get ready to blame nobody but yourself for not doing proper risk management.

More like pot calling kettle black, he isn't pure after all. Binance has been accused of insider trading often without numbers and trust me, any organization that involves money that is not televised is most often than not into some shady stuff in the background, but will come out publicly to deny it that they don't do it but in fact, they do it. I know that even Sec has been a d!ck these days but they have also accused them of this behaviour and CZ now wants to tell the public how to be purified with the platform they choose to trade, he should redeem his exchange organization first.

People should know that when something is too real, they should avoid it especially when it has to do with money; High Apy or APR are most of the time scams and platforms that make promises on an empty pocket, they do that just to siphon money from the public and then go into hidden, so even if Binance and CZ are crooks, avoid high APY platforms because as soon as your money goes into their exchange, it is never coming back again.
1025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if salaries were paid in BTC on: August 01, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
A friend of mine in our discussion today about Bitcoin was insisting that salaries and wages be paid in Bitcoin in some countries.
I was of the opinion that the government will not allow fiat to be replaced by Bitcoin .so what is your take on this will it be a positive move on the Bitcoin ecosystem or not

This got me silent for some seconds. Cool This is a very good move if the company should adopt bitcoin for bitcoin payment of salaries, they will get to spend through Bitcoin, live the life they want all on chain transactions without ever touching the fiat again and bitcoin been a global currency and censorship resistant, it will ease the pain of boardless transactions without anyone stepping on your toes, it will also expose employees to bitcoin, how its been use and done and, many more.

However, there is a major difficulties when it comes bitcoin for settling payment for workers, many of them will reject the option of receiving bitcoin for payment because you can't keep bitcoin for 30 days without having price fluctuation, it may go up or may come down, it is 50:50. Many salary earners love to keep their money into saving, they wouldn't be happy if they left for $100 change to $80, that is about $20 loss with 20% reduction in values which is possible in monthly frame, it will be a disaster for those who hold more than that but I guess they will be happy when there is 20% increase in price. I think many will not accept this option of bitcoin for work.

Furthermore, when bitcoin are been used to settle workers, they will have to sell it to buy basic needs and pay bills, the government also collects tax when you receive bitcoin as payment which is around 10% to 30%, that is like working and giving everything to the government when it is possible to have static of 10% when you don't earn above more than $20k, instead of converting bitcoin to fiat to pay unnecessary expenses and tax, pay banks tax, why not receive everything in fiat and save the headache. After that, anyone that wishes to buy bitcoin can do so from their salaries.
1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A weird belief among some gamblers. on: August 01, 2023, 04:29:50 PM
There's this scene I witnessed today at a local sport betting house  and I found it very funny and unbelievably true at same time. A certain young man after making his predictions placed his bet and his betting slip was printed to him then another gambler in the house approached him and asked to make a rebet of his games for himself but I was shocked when the young man refused with the excuse that he doesn't share his predictions that sharing it will make him lose his bet. More like having his luck to win reduce or changed maybe because the person he shared his games with could be someone with a bad luck on that day.

If gamblers knew a way to win, they would always maintain the secret, but no! It doesn't work that way; even if you practice Vodou or possess some sort of superpower, if the odds aren't in your favour or luck isn't on your side, then that ticket isn't for you. Is there something similar to reducing someone's chances when gambling? That would be like praying to God for money when you worship him every day but are reluctant to tell someone how you speak with him out of fear that he won't hear you; that would be foolish.

When you share a betting code with another bettor, nothing happens. I have duplicated certain codes and bet them, which hundreds of gamblers do every day just to keep themselves occupied, and they win as well. When the initial bet is lost, the rest of the gamblers lose as well. In addition, bookmakers and sportsbook platforms include this booking code for a reason, in case you wish to share your ticket and games with other players; it does not add or subtract anything from the initial stake.

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Although I have heard of behaviors like this with some gamblers but I never believe it not until I witnessed it myself today and it was weird to me imagining how you will get to lose your bet by allowing someone else rebet it. In all my years of gambling, I believe that a game prediction that will play as predicted will definitely play not regarding the number of people that bet on the same prediction. If this is what happens to the gambling industry, that means the entire gambling platform will be super rich and when the players calculate the amount they have spent on gambling, the loss will be bigger than the profit + deposit. I will gladly share

So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?

When you really examine and examine these kinds of gamblers, you will notice that they rarely have a winning ticket in their lives when it comes to sports predictions, and they never win anything because they are constantly attached to that superstitious belief. I'll share my booking codes with my friends, and when they win big, they'll share me as well. There's nothing mystical about winning; it either happens as it was intended to or it doesn't.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 01, 2023, 03:55:01 PM
I saw some video bad finishing by Rasmus Hojlund while with Atalanta. Actually as a striker 32 times played and 9 goals seems like a not very good statistic. But it looks like Ten Hag has another view. Perhaps his young age is enough to make Ten Hag confident that he can change the bad views of football observers. Many people also hope that Rasmus Hojlund can be Haaland's competitor and be the solution to the attacker's problems. At the moment Ten Hag has several options so Rashford probably won't be exhausted and injured a lot.

Erling Haaland can't be compared to Rasmus Hojlund, even when Haaland is at Hojlund's age he can score a lot of goals and has a good finishing. I believe that ETH is just gambling on Hojlund's transfer, because despite his young age, at least Manchester United will have a replacement for their striker. If later he will be officially introduced as a new Manchester United player, I can't wait to see how he performs in official PL matches.

I don't want to hate but Hojlund coming to Manchester United is rubbish except there is something Erik Ten Hag see's in him that I'm yet to find out, he is 20 which is considered a youngster but common, and he has played for at least Sturm Graz and Atalanta as an attacker that must had plenty of opportunities and yet, he had 4 goals for each club which is 8 in total, not bad for a beginner but asking price of 75M EUR is crazy thing Erik is doing, another money on the bin they will later find difficult to sell because I believe they have other good players, he may find it difficult to satisfy them with goals.

He better sit and checks the garbage they have been bringing to the club because so far so nothing good to talk about because he was asked in an interview how he fills in the coming friendly matches they have and he replied that Manchester United doesn't take matches as friendly, they are here for real game, and guess what, they conceded goals, I think that was the friendly match they had with Dortmund and Onana been the new goalkeeper didn't impress too even when all the fault were from the defenders.

No doubt! Haaland can only be compared to Mbappe and no one else. Even then it's hard, because Erling changed leagues and took no time at all to get settled in. Mbappe still has done nothing of the sort, but he had a stellar World Cup performance.

It would be exciting if Hojlund lives up to the expectation and hopefully by next year we will compare him to Haaland. But there is also the possibility that we will compare him to Mudryk. Only time will tell.

You are biting your tongue from what you are saying, you can't compare Haaland and Mbape on the major ground just because he had a good season and treble for Manchester City. Do you know what it takes to win a world, he has been there twice in 2018 and 2022 and he won one and pushed Argentina to the wall, it was as if the world cup was between France and Argentina to date because that is the only highlight I'm seeing every day and when Manchester City won the Champions, people didn't cheer up as if they did something. If Mbape finally agrees to come to Premier League, you can do the comparison once again but it's too early to do that now.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 01, 2023, 03:21:36 PM
Arsenal is exploring the possibility of signing another goal keeper in Brentford number one shot stopper David Raya who's contract will be expiring next year,and the player is not looking forward to staying at the club.He wants to play in a big team,Bayern were said to be monitoring his situation and have tried with a bid which was turned down for the player who is worth around 40 million pounds.However,Bayern have turned their attention elsewhere,and Arsenal have moved in for the player,making enquires about his services but are yet to lodge a bid for the shot stoppers who is seen to compete with Ramsdale over a starting spot at the club.If a deal for the keeper materialises,it would mean that Matt Turner will be sold to any team interested in his signature.

I assumed big team, you mean by worth else I don't think Bayern would boast of being better than Arsenal in their current form, Raya has been in Brentford since and just joined Premier League after spending some time away in Championship and they have in between top standing and relegation zone and by that, I don't think he can have what he doesn't deserve, $40 million is greater than his performance in my opinion, settling for Arsenal would have been his best decision.

Seems Arsenal and Arteta are doing more to strengthen their midfield as they are fighting to have Tchouameni and but that got me some unanswered questions if Arteta has that kind of money on him because Monaco is ready to splash over $100k on him to come to play for them and in this raise, PSG seems to be having interest on this deal. I understand that Arsenal loves young players but it will be a waste of money to have him in the club with that kind of amount, I wonder if they ever look at Benfica for this kind of good deal.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 31, 2023, 08:32:44 PM
That's right, I think Xavi said that because he only wanted to focus on the El Clasico pre-season match against Real Madrid and it was proven that Barcelona was able to embarrass Real Madrid with this quite a crushing defeat. The intensity of these two teams really knows no place and wherever they are as long as they are still on the same field, the pride of a team will be highly respected by them.

On the other hand, it is very clear that Real Madrid needs a striker with a mature finish and that is indeed the closest choice to Mbappe and I think there is no more time for Real Madrid. If they really want to beat every team in La Liga and win the title. But if Real Madrid persist in hoping for Vini's sometimes erratic performance, then they will lose the title again.

I'm not still sure about it but maybe Real Madrid didn't put full energy into this match and they were just using this El Clasico game against Barcelona to test some players and this team is still not in a good situation to be tested against Barcelona, that's why we can't say if Real Madrid had bad performance or not.
However, El Clasico is always an important game even if that's just a friendly match.

Elclasico match has never been friendly, that's what I understood in their last round, I didn't even bother to watch the second half because I was already emotional and angry seeing how Real Madrid players were playing like loose players that have not been training for decades. Camavinga was helpless to the point that common pass became a problem to achieve. No, common! Vinicious had  the chance for a Penalty that could have give them opportunity to equalize and perhaps that would give them energy to play better but wasn't fruitful.

This is not good for Real Madrid, with the way Barcelona was having fun of Real Madrid, there is going to be problem after pre-season, they will dominate Laliga if Madrid doesn't step up. I hope by then their official striker will be ready and available to help the team, they can't continue to play without main attackers because switching between Rodrigo, Vinicious and Bellingham wouldn't yield anything good for the team.
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 31, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

Never say never, Real Madrid did the same thing last summer transfer window and what happen after, they played nonsense game without fruitful result, they flop in some good matches they should have converted to goals and points but it was as if they weren't there. Let me give you a scenario using how Manchester City were able to win the Champions league last season; they signed Haaland and De Bruyne prior to the last Champions League and they were so entangled together by performance and that improve scoring opportunities of Manchester City, Guardiola allowing some players to go because they are not attacker doesn't mean they wouldn't feel the pain, every player us the role they play in the squad, they will feel the heat at some point in future.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 06:56:26 PM

SPL and Chinese league aren't comparable. Surely SPL is more attractive than Chinese league. The clubs of SPL also have more money than the clubs in China league.



The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.

I have to agree with Ronaldo effective move pave way for other players, they should be among top teams that bought all the available free and fully contracted players and it seems the oil money is still in excess because I don't quite understand Al-Hilal and all this money they are generously spending on players. Just today rumors that I read from a reliable source, (not Fabrizio Romano) that Al-Hilal has push two different offer for Osimhen to the team, that of $120m for a year and $140m for the second year, that's an amount that can change life forever but at the cost of his career because Osimhen is still very young.

Haven't look at how Saudi Arabia are having more numbers of old European team to the clubs. I still feel Messi got all the attention in MLS than what other players have did in Saudi Arabia, perhaps it's due to the fact that they are yet to score any goal but will they have the chance like that. Even Ronaldo has not score any goals in his last 3 matches, only Benzema has been doing fine in his team.
1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 05:36:00 PM

I think Manchester United has to sell Maguire before the start of the league season because I don't see any of his performances in good condition. When I look at Manchester United's game against Dortmund, the performance was good but the defensive was not strong. He will continue to make many own goals for Manchester United if they keep him on the team. If Manchester United didn't do anything about it now, it would have an impact on the club's performance when the league started, and they would have to deal with a challenging season the next year.

Just today I saw a newly arrived player dare to scold an old player. Even the former captain of the team, I think it's appropriate that this should continue to be done as a reminder. But selling is probably the best solution. Ten Hag already has another player ready to replace him. Evans, Martinez, Varane might be better. Selling Maguire will not make them weak. Moreover, Man United has a lot of transfers quite well. That will make the defense also better.

There is no seniority in football and no players is ever bigger than the team, all players are open to critism between each other and the manager of course. Onana has every right to correct Maguire just the same way Maguire can correct or rant on Onana when he fuckup but insult and abuse is never welcome. If Erik don't include him, how will they know what they bought was worth the amount and letting go of De Gea, there is nothing absolutely wrong about it. What can we say about fans that knows nothing, never been in the field but would find opportunity to attack any players, lmao  Grin

Let's be honest, If Maguire live Manchester United, he is as good as gone, they even thankful that West Ham made an attempted with good offer; who in there right senses in Premier League will want to have Maguire in such a big amount, an increase in performance and seasonal goals is equivalents to high amount and for the past two seasons, Maguire has been robotic player in my opinion, they either reason with West Ham to increase the Bid a little and sell him or they accept his entertainment continuesly, it's up to them.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 31, 2023, 04:26:16 PM
Gambling is a game that has an addictive effect. Most people who have joined gambling sites will find it difficult to get out of the gambling circle. It doesn't matter how much you lose at gambling, as long as we still have money, we will continue to gamble

Can you share your first experience playing gambling? and who told you about gambling sites?

I myself know gambling sites from my own friends. I idly and try to deposit. Starting from playing with a little money, after a while I didn't know how much money I had spent playing gambling


The way we describe this addiction is scary and the repetition of similar thread make it more scary, we should understand that gambling is addictive in nature because of the money involved but there are people that are addicted affirmatively with cool money they make here as if it's Christmas day for them, they can spend the whole day staring at screen and picking games with lower lines but at the end of the day, money is always made without or with small little no loss and same goes the other way that gambling affect with addiction but it's not the way it's been discussed here every day, let's change the narrative so others can have interest!

Back to your question. It was all full of anxiety because my favorite team was playing and they were on the verge of losing that match; I was having two fear, the fear of my team losing the match and the fear of losing my bet consecutively, the emotions were all there but I love the former real Madrid how they turn things around in die minutes, been patient was worth it, the odds was 1.6 single ticket but the wager was much that was what contributed to my fear but the experience was great. 
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ADVICE]Boy Wins $46k from Sports Bet but Can't Tell Strict Religious Parents... on: July 30, 2023, 09:47:41 PM
Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?

This sound so good to be true, $10 is too small to win $46,606 amount, how did he amount odds in that manner because if my calculations are right, he need 4,000+ odds to actually win that amount, that's like $10 x 4660.6 odds to get that amount he won and I'm wondering if there is other options in female world cup that is capable of accumulating to this number of odds, not to say how he is going to explain to the parent how he won that amount, evidence is needed to convince even parent that add not religious believers.

If he provide evidence of winning to the parent and they rejected the money, the player should not force the parent into accepting the money but that will be a delusional thing to do, that's a huge amount of money to free off the house debts and pay a couple of bills. I believe he is an adult from the age you described, he should keep the money to himself and pay school fees and other important something money can do for him, this is 21st century.
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 30, 2023, 09:15:49 PM
Yes I’m also of the opinion that Osimhen would have been the best man to fill in as centre forward for Manchester United but after considering the cost of acquiring Victor Osimhen and the possibility that Napoli might not be interested in selling, the club decided to opt for other alternatives for that position and decided on signing Hojlund as the player to lead their attack next season

I thought Osimhen deal outside Inter is unacceptable by Napoli president, he had an incredible contribution In Seria A which has been one of the best time of his career, it will be unwise decision to abandon the club when he has only achieve a little on that region, additional year in Seria A will be better before coming to any Premier League team, he will be more valuable and if they can build another tension in the upcoming Champions League, he will be double valuable than how much he is worth right now and the debate of him not surviving in Premier League will quench for good.

With the way Pre-season matches results are shown and displayed by teams, it is becoming unclear how some teams are going to perform this season, Manchester City couldn't beat minor team outside Premier League, I understand that they are friendly but the ending of this match is weird, my  confidence on Arsenal and Manchester City to repeat their position in the standing this season still stand though.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 30, 2023, 06:44:16 PM
I don't think Manchester United will let Maguire go for 20 million and complete the deal with West Ham. The price clause offered by West Ham is far below Manchester United's expectations, even though as we know Maguire is getting worse and no one wants him there anymore including Manchester United fans. Seeing these conditions I am quite concerned to see Maguire who is constantly under pressure, but there is nothing he can do other than leave because there is no place for him anymore at Manchester United. Manchester United want 35-40 million for any club interested in Maguire. If another club bids more than West Ham then Manchester United will not hesitate to sign a deal. He is 30 years old, old enough for him to be in the EPL and I think he will most likely go to the Arab League if one of the Arab clubs makes an offer, for his age most of them would choose to go there with the aim of increasing their finances. I'll still be waiting for an update on Maguire.

Letting Harry Maguire go for only 20 million is certainly a big loss for the club. But I also do not believe that there are any other better options to be honest. Because even if they get another offer for him, I don’t think any club is going to offer more than 24/25 million for him. And by not selling him, or stalling, they are probably going to run out of options. I think it will be better for Manchester United to let him go. At this 20 million and not paying him the salary that they are paying already is a win situation for Manchester United in my opinion.

It is probably true that if they get an offer from the Saudi league, they are certainly going to get more money. But is there going to be an offer from the Saudi league? At the moment they are trying to get popular players in the league. And I don’t think Harry Maguire fits the description to be honest.

As a club that has been in this business for many years and multiple decades, I believe they are in a good position to know that having a player among them has some stretch of risk, it is unavoidable and that is what Maguire's fate has shown them, they can't deny that Maguire is no longer useful to them because even Erik has to remove the captain band from him to another player as that signifies a good leadership and we have not seen anything significant from Maguire, they better let him go while the offer is still reasonable, Maguire is a public figure that every club knows his poor performance, they wouldn't bid more than this price.

Saudi Arabia pro leagues know what they are doing, some people think the Arabians like Al-Hilal and others are just throwing money to buy worthless European players but they know why they are bringing some to their clubs. There are players that have spent their entire life in Laliga and Premier League with good fame, going to Saudi Arabia may be another means to remain relevant but to the clubs, their presence here is for recognition and an increase in sales of shirts and tickets. Maguire is a player that is known for scoring own goals, I bet even the underdeveloped clubs wouldn't break the bank to have him among them.
1037  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: apps for bitcoin security? on: July 27, 2023, 12:04:04 PM
can anyone suggest apps to install to have better security? all i know is antivirus and browser adblock.

Having your Bitcoin in your computer can expose your private keys to key loggers and malware, the antivirus may not even detect that you have such a virus on your computer, and you can lose all your Bitcoin with Adblock and antivirus on your device, it is not the best approach to secure your bitcoin from potential thefts.

There is no maximum security like having your Bitcoin offline from the internet and to that, you need to make use of a hardware wallet to manage your private keys, you only connect the device via Bluetooth or USB when you need to access them.
1038  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: For newbies and plebs who want to self-study to become "traders" on: July 27, 2023, 11:47:09 AM
My advice - BE CAREFUL

Investment and trading books, articles and videos are made by people who might not actually be winning traders. They make their money by writing "investment materials" and sell it to us, the plebs.

Plus "as traders", most of you will lose money and leave. Some of you might return and lose more money. Some might have learned their lesson the hard way and just HODL Bitcoin. The few who actually put in the most time, effort and who are well-capitalized might make it.


There is nothing I hate seeing like those thumbnails on Youtube videos, sometimes I think those guys that give predictions and guides about trading contribute to why newbies lost money into crypto because instead of them to be teaching the important aspect of trading, they will be busy saying things that will give them goosebumps and make their adrenaline grow over their head and when they rush and start trading without any basic knowledge and get burn, they start crying like babies.

There is another funny thing these trading guides traders do, they don't in reality trade any shit, they only hold coins and freak out the public with trade settings and hype; the Halving is on the way, just watch how they come back to hype people once again about trading guide and when they make their gain, they vamous and come back the next time there is another hype in the market.
1039  Economy / Economics / Re: Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society' on: July 27, 2023, 10:49:37 AM
The government need to control the use or else it would be used to cause a lots of attacks thag would look real to humans eyes. People had started using it to clone other people's imagine which should be framed at. I have started seeing a lots of things we can use the chatgpt to do which would look extraordinary to people when they see the outcome. We may be enjoying it now but there a bad people that will not mind to use the dark side to cause harm and destroy personalities.

I share these concerns, but I don't yet see what real steps governments can take to bring the situation under control. Stopping the development of artificial intelligence is tantamount to trying to stop progress. There is no legal or other reason to enforce laws restricting the development of artificial intelligence, because there are no norms that can determine what level of development is acceptable.

When there is a rule that guides an environment, then we should expect a high level of abuse by people in that area, that is exactly what is surrounding AI use but Elon calling for a break is like using a switch pox to stop a creativity. AI is another level of niche that people are making money from and also helping people reduce their workload, I think embedding laws and policies will regulate and reduce the way it is been used, it will also improve and create room for development if that should happen instead calling for total scratch, that will kill a lot of dreams.

I don't know why Elon get to do a lot of calls recently, Being a leading company CEO and the world's richest is sealed oxygen, when expose to air, it will evaporate under high temperature, I believe very soon, there will come a new person that will attract lots of people to his system and amass wealth to take over, Bezoz, Bill gate have all tasted that wealth and where are they now, they have all calm because power is transient.
1040  Economy / Economics / Re: I cannot go home if I don't make a lot of money now!! on: July 26, 2023, 10:29:03 PM
when i was kids, i need to study very hard, to get a lot of score in the test. if i got a zero mark in a math test, i am very scare to go home and show the test paper to my mum.

when i am grown up, i have kids and wife now, i need to work very hard, to get a lot of money in the job. if i got a paycut, or i got fired, i am very scared to go home, i can't sleep well, my head is sweating, the memory of getting zero mark in a test keep haunting me like the nightmare, i need to go out and make a lot of money!!

You need help man, your problem is not just money, you are scared about life and you need to see a therapist to help you out, the forum cannot help you out on that aspect. You have been scared right from kid and that trauma has affected you in facing the reality of life, men are build up by society to challenge life and live with it comfortably no matter how difficult it is, they always learn to adapt any difficulty but you seem to be attached to your kid life that has happened more 15 years ago if I'm right since you said you are married, please do see a therapist, book an appointment and have a one on one discussion about this fear, they will help you out.

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tell me anything i need to do to make a lot of money. doesn't matter what, i would do anything to get all the money, even if it mean unlawful and unethical!

You should never think about doing anything illegal, it will land you in jail and you will become a bad dad to your kid and embarrassment to your family and people that look up to you. If you have an academic results, apply for jobs you studied in school or start a business if you have the means to start anyone, you can also improve and rank your account and joined any available signature promotion on the forum, you can engage in the Forum to earn some sats to support your physical husle and with that, you should be fine and happy with your family.
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