1. if this is the 2nd 3rd season then yea people have built up a tolerance. they have the blueprints from previous seasons and the hospitalisation rate per year would drop from 10% first to 1% second to 0.1% third

but we are in the first season of a new virus..
again because i dont think you understand this part
NEW VIRUS
even if you do have a fast metabolism so when you identify a threat replicate loads of antibodies. this can take hours-days still.. but in that first 20 minutes of sucking face with a sick person the viral load may outpace your bodies ability to have pot luck random defenders.
its then too late its in the lungs replicating

much better to get low dose to then have low amount battle/replicating if they get passed the first defense
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2. face coverings are only about 20% effective compared to N95/PPE2. and if you just done some maths.
its way better to instead of getting 1mill particles sucking face unprotected. to stand at 2 metres and get
a few dozen thousand. and then reduce that by 20% further so that your body gets a lower dose. thus less fight to need to battle

but overall distance and limiting time exposure makes more of an impact that a covering.

but if you want to keep promoting people should lick faces with sick people for 20minutes a day unprotected then you are just creating more problems for people.
much better to promote personal space respect to only get low dose exposure(social distance/cloth covering)

or if you are in the vulnerable category. then avoid all exposure(shielding/n95)

you might want to check on that
when you realise a large majority of the 79% general white NHS staff are not patient facing. but office/admin/consultants/lab techs

and if you instead looked at the reports of the actual patient facing staff diversity
you will start to see that there are more philippinos, african, asian, indian in the mix. and its not 2-11%
meaning its not a HEALTH risk difference based on ethnicity. its a close contact risk that has more BAME people getting close to patients than white staff

what real BAME support groups are asking for is why are the white people safe in their office spaces while the BAME community are tasked to be facing patients taking all the risk
its not about BAME people being lower immune
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its the same with work places. bus drivers and taxi drivers are usually a higher BAME community % yet they are in roles where they have to stay upclose and in confined spaces with loads of people.
again not a health immunity concern but a proximity to random people concern

anyway. back to the topic
the guy manages 2 clinics that look like 7-eleven shop refits.
he first caught the attention of the authorities when he was selling sub-par PPE and body bags. to other more official hospitals but they found they didnt meet the standard
they then found he was doing alot of covid certification above the norm

then they found he was switching peoples samples around so using those that did have the virus with those that didnt to fake certification..
and that escalated to him just handing out certification without testing for profit

oh and he also switched samples to pretend he was currently infected when he wasnt just so he could escape being jailed because he thought he can play the sympathy card. it didnt work

he has 56 charges for many scams and pretty much shows that he is a profit douche and not a proper medical care ethical man

maybe think less of the government trying to blame a debt crises (that was going to happen) on a virus
and think more that the virus would have caused the same equal health crisis of underfunded hospitals to require such drastic action no matter what.
yep lockdowns would still have been a thing
but governments also used this same crisis to then add in the economic crisis to warn people to expect a decade of economic tightening

again the health crises would have still occurred, hospitals still would have got over run and lockdowns and restrictions would still have occurred
try not to think that if there was no debt crisis then the pandemics restrictions would not have occurred

as for vaccines
antivaxxers sites are not unbiased
the tales of mercury and monkey kidney stuff got debunked decades ago
if you knew of all the filtering systems in the body and you know of the dosages of ingredients in a vaccine compared to whats found on everyday food. you would then form different opinions

if you think about the amount of preventable deaths from having a vaccine. vs the deaths without a vaccine.
and then look at the smaller amount of deaths linked to bad batches of meds. you would see there is more benefit to having a vaccine than not having a vaccine

if a virus has a 10% hospitalisation rate of needing some form of oxygen therapy
then imagine 10% of population without any therapy/hospital care.

thats far worse than the 0.0x% of cases that are due to bad reaction to medication

try to stick to numbers, science and fact. and not antivaxxer emotional opinion.


if you cant grasp the fact that there are certain nasty diseases that actually kill more people without a vaccine then you really need to check your sources

i know you want to believe that babies can all survive measles and mumps and rubella
i know you want to believe that people can get over things by just getting it

but you dont understand the complexity
as shown by your comments in other topics

anyway. your over 60yo. you dont have to worry about being given infant scheduled vaccines.
so instead of lettig these websites get you emotionally triggered that somehow its killing you. realise that your not an infant. and then do the research as to why these antivaxxers are trying to trigger people

dont play the emotional card. play the science and math card.
actually learn if a vaccine actually has mercury in it. actualy learn what other everyday things have the same thing in it. look at how much you consume from every day things vs how much you get in a vaccine once a few years.
use maths not emotion
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then you might find an unbiased opinion
(EG learn difference between Methylmercury and Ethylmercury)
the one with the M is in fish and water and soil (food and drink) it can build up
the one with the E breaks down and excreted by body and doesnt build up
in short worry more about fish and non organic foods and unfiltered water

yes there are some 'family doctors' that set up thier own clinic to then sell drugs.
yep even in america the opioid crisis has revealed how demonic/selfish and unethical some people can be

i get that some people dont trust a doctor when hearing news that some are trying to sell snake oil
but that does not mean modern medicine is just voodoo, either

i can already tell that some idiots will try to swing this news into some mass world wide drama that all doctors are, are magicians and con artists. but that is not the case
i can already tell that some idiots will try to swing this news that covid is not real because of this
i can already tell that some idiots will just be idiots and now seek out doctors who will print them out a certificate for money, in the hope that the certificate awards them immortality.

heck the guy above me thinks that if the certificate was worded different it instantly changes the persons real health status(facepalm). guess he didnt get the hint that the certificate is not worth the paper its printed on

wow even just yesterday i said how when you got proved wrong about koch you instantly then shifted gears and talked about rivers..
and no surprise surprise you repeated it again. even when being told how you failed last time you didnt get the hint.

maybe if you stopped looking at your conspiracy cult websites and actually done the research you will find the reports. heck i did link them last time and again just a couple this time

your blind ignorance does not mean the reports dont exist. your blind ignorance means you wont even read them even when someone links them
so why do you even ask for them when people already have. and why do you deny them.

why even ask for something you dont want.
funny part is the link i just posted both show HOW and WHERE and WHAT and WHEN
but goodluck with your ignorance
but incase you want to deny finding any links even though you quoted the links in my previous post
ill link just a couple again

https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/covid-19/literature-digest-old/the-pathogenicity-of-sars-cov-2-in-hace2-transgenic-mice
heres the more detailed notes incase you fear creading the first link to actually find it
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa325/5811871
(i know its hard to click the 'pdf' button to then have to read the full report. but you asked for the report. so go read it). heck they even have supplementary pictures and even videos of the hamsters

oh and to save you another circle should you dare research(but unlikely) modern medicine/diagnostics.. it also passes the bradford hill aswell

even people with strong immune systems and people that know about health still suffer
take the doctors in the ICU. its their speciality they know about infections they know about immunity. but they get sick too

the reason is not that a good immunity will make you immortal. because when it comes to new viruses that are having their first season where you have not had it before you have no blueprints of the antibody inside you. your just playing a game of 'pot luck' that your body can adapt and find a corresponding random defender to block/fight an attacker

its about viral load too. if your a person inhaling 500m particles per breath for a long time vs someone only inhaling 3 million so there is less virus for your body to battle

think about simple math
if your playing dogeball would you prefer to be hit by 50 balls up close or stay at a distance so you can dodge 47 of them and only get hit by 3

its basic math
if it takes you 1 second to react to hit a ball you cant dodge. would you want to be a metre from the thrower meaning it gets to you in 0.2seconds meaning you cant react fast enough so you get hit hard by all 50 balls.
or
stand metres away giving you more time to react and hit the 3 balls you cant dodge

trying to pretend that being an athlete that has quick reflexes will make you immortal still means you end up getting hit by 50 balls and looking like a fool while getting hurt and wondering why hurt. and just trying to hide the pain and pretend it aint happening..
.. or you can simply just keep your distance and be aware of your surroundings for a much simpler solution

dont 'be a man' getting hurt and trying to be macho pretending it dont hurt
instead be smart and just avoid getting hit so much


remember its a new virus your body doesnt have the blueprints of a antibody built in yet. so even a strong immune system wont be proactive to defend you.. but will possibly be quick reactively to fight it once it has learned the blueprint antibody that works

EG if you got a viral load that overwhelms you
bad immunity = 3-4 weeks in hospital
good immunity = 1-2 weeks in hospital

try to think about math and science.. and not hope and wishes

gotta laugh at this topic

jetcash. if you want to be ignorant and wanna just go to morrisons/mcdonalds cafe's to use your internet fine.
if you done some real math. you would see that there are risks


the reality is that out of ~100 people
50 if they stay at safe distance to low dose viral load will have no symptoms
30 will have mild symptoms(just a cough and slightly warm, nothing too bad)
10 will have more acute symptoms(restless night and coughing/sweating extremes)
10 will need hospital care

the issue is if in a population of say 100k town. they will only have 200 special care beds (0.2% average)
so if there are over 1000 people a week. meaning 100 a week needing hospital beds for 2 weeks. (200)
thats just too much for hospitals to handle

yes if people were to group together and lick each others faces and dryhump and really inhale high viral loads from each other
it would be more like
10 no symptoms
30 mild
40 acute
20 hospital
meaning only 500 a week would become a problem due to it translating to the 100 in hospital

so how about offering advice for people to learn personal space respect.

another way to view it is
imagine streets are filled with graffiti artists with spray paints
if you stand right infront of them only a metre away your at high risk of getting face covered in paint.
but if you stand at 2 metres away less paint can get on you.
wear a n95mask and you should be good. wear a cloth mask. we better then nothing but expect to get some paint

its called common sense.

numbers in FL.. you said its 1.06.. but reality is 1.3 average
it managed a 1.07 for the last half of May but by june 3rd numbers were above 1.1

heck even just looking at a graph you can see that the upward angle is not a low 1.0X amount


calculating R₀ is easy
pick a day and get the case numbers.
then find the case numbers for 7 days before it

then do: 1/days case*last weeks day case
because nature is not organised. its best to try it over a few days to get a better picture

EG one day(using its 7th day previous) might be 1.25 the next day(using its 7th day previous) might be 1.35

but one thing is for sure even without the math(just visual chart) or with the math. it hasnt been a 1.0X day or averaged week since may

its kinda simple .. if there was 3400 cases 4 weeks ago
then 1.06 repeated 4 times would be about 4300 average case number
yet its more like over 11k case numbers. so definetly over 1.06x

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a few things to note though
the r₀ in march-april was high(3-9 range) but that was with mostly symptomatic people.
the r₀ seems high at 1.3. but thats because testing centres are now also testing asymptomic people which means the numbers are not really showing how much is actually transmitting via the virus actually bursting out of peoples lungs and being exhaled. vs the asymptomatics that are not transmitting it.

its why you have to factor in all these things and also how much hospitalisation there is to get a better view
they are trying to introduce Re which accounts/excludes for the asymptomatics because of this. which would be different from r₀ and lower

if your talking about the scam 'ether giveaway'

then yes greedy scamers are lazy and dont want to work hard to earn. so they will look for the quickest way to get money. they wont bother trying to hack random people that dont have many followers. and especially not many followers of a certain topic they want to use as their scam. so yes they wil pick the top people in crypto with the most followers in crypto to then use those hacked accounts to promote the ether giveaway scams

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those hacked influencers did react and change their name/bio to 'i dont give away ether'. but if you think these influencers should somehow compensate victims. well thats just not how the world works

those that did get scammed should use it as a lesson in life to not be blindly trusting any influencer. not treat them like jesus and auto-believe them simply because they have lots of followers.
a lesson about checking if any investment is legit. even if its just questioning the 'if it sounds to good to be true, it most probably isnt good'
then ask if its really a give away, why need to ask for funds upfront with such promises of returns attached

if victims of scams just got auto compensated. they would never learn and stop caring about due dilegance and just take stupid risks as they would feel they will get their funds back guaranteed somehow.

yes the influencers that got hacked might want to file a police report about their account or request twitter for details of log-in attempts of their account to try to identify the path of the hack.
but the reality is with proxy's and tore nodes. finding a hacker is hard/impossible.

so it then circles back to people learning to care about their own security and funds and stop trying to look for someone else to blame and someone else to compensate them.

so if your worried abut twitter promoted scams. instead of pleading for victim compensation. plead to vulnerable gullible possible victims to wise up.
warn people of the scams. teach them what to look out for
try to teach prevention and not be looking to teach hope of cure/compensation

the most annoying thing people find about governments is their decisions about what to spend treasury money on

for instance, wars in foreign countries are funded by treasury "defense" money. yet obviously are "offiensive" used.

so when countries invade other countries for land disputes of oil rich locations. should governments treat the acquisition of these plots of land as a public asset. meaning the government then create the fuel to sell direct to citizens to get funds back to recoup the initial funding.
should the government just hand it to private companies and then charge that companies customers large tarrifs/sales tax. meaning no risk/bad side for corporation. and risk is on treasury/citizens
or should private companies fund these 'exploration' missions and 'defense' missions and then get to keep what they find. no tax out no tax in. where risk is on the corporation

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other things like the movie industry and factory industry which has local governments bid to companies with different state tax benefits/grants/reductions to get them to set up a business in their state to increase employment options,
if say there are 50k possible new employment oppertunities at $40k a year. and knowing over a year that causes a fund circulation and taxation that can end up as being $20k per employee into the treasury.
($1bill into treasury) along with no longer having to give social security benefits to those 50k people means that it can be a total of $1.5bill going into treasury.
should states give corporations 'tax breaks' /grants/ reductions of over $1.5b in this scenario

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in short what im asking is if you had full control of treasury spending and decisions. would you want taxes to go to protect corporations at the loss of citizens. or protect the citizens at a loss of corporations

which lines would you draw where you have seen examples of wasteful spending

funny part is. that you ask for report(singular) because as i said you think there is only one report thats viable..
well i have a spoiler for you. there are many reports(plural)


you got corrected months ago. and again in a topic today where your repeating the same crap i corrected you.
so here is the link as a reminder. as its getting annoying having to correct you about the same thing in multiple forum threads multile times a year about the same thing. all because your memory doesnt last long.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262708.msg54818490#msg54818490
summary:
kaufman is using something mentioned in january.
but in february/march many labs around the world fulfilled Koch's postulum.
i told you about it in may.
but you still want to take 1 "kaufman" outdated script. and link HIM 3 times to make it seem like he is many voices(facepalm)
yet you couldnt even be bothered to search post history or even google.

this is also why i keep mentioning your stuck on outdated scripts from january. and keep reminding you that its now july.
seems you keep forgetting debates you already started and lost.

and yes i expect by september you are again going to forget all this. and again pretend no one has shown proof of passing the koch test.
because you are that much of an idiot

going back to school "as normal" has its risks
some countries are putting the 'at risk' students which do have vulnerable parents in a separate class which get special attention and rules. where as other classes with parents that dont care and happy for kids to mingle can go to 'normal' classes

right now schools are open in places like the UK for the ones that do have parents that work and if not at school the kids would suffer/end up being babysat by random people, thus increase the spread risk. so the UK has schools open. but not 'as normal'

but trying to protest that every situation whether its work/social/education should just go back to 'normal' is just being ignorant of the risks

oh badecker thanks for admitting that your scripts are not your idea . we all knew your posts are scripts you just repeat without understanding

we know as soon as you finally accept how wrong your posts are, you declare that they were not your thoughts in the first place.
we have known your tactic all the time

we have tried to tell you to stop just copy/pasting scripts but to actually research and check and validate them first.

...
but anyway
the CDC actually wrote full guidelines that explain how to diagnose a patient.
i know you only want to use some faux media insane summary of what was not said. but multiple times you have been linked the actual documents and told to read the source.

so by you not even willing to escape a fantasy someone else created. it became your fantasy because you decided to stay in it

i told you and showed you months ago.
i know you want to advertise that andrew kaufman. but the funny thing is that you keep advertising just him as your source that koch/rivers has not been followed

but to save you tripping over yourself yet again. although i know you will just change direction and avoid realising the hole you made for yourself

back in january US labs were saying they identified the virus and such but didnt finalise it by not then purposefully infecting healthy subjects. and it was this article that your outdated conspiracy nuts latched onto and for the last 5 months have been repeating scripts of
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7077245/#sec5-viruses-12-00135title
note. this in JANUARY

but then there are labs from february onwards that were doing the final stage. ill show you 2. and let you learn about a thing called google if you actually care to learn about more(its not difficult)
mouse-UK-february
https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/covid-19/literature-digest-old/the-pathogenicity-of-sars-cov-2-in-hace2-transgenic-mice
hamster -hongkong -march
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa325/5811871

if you can just stop circling scripts from january and realise that its july and your scripts have been debunked. then maybe you can spend that time on something new thats not been said before

badecker was shown an article from someone thats not even treating patients. where that writer thinks there has only been one sample, one sequence and one result

i showed badecker thousands of samples/sequences from thousands of hospitals all using different batches of chemicals different instruments different patients and where all of them had the same symptomatology and issues. and guess what. they found the common denominator.

yea if we go with badeckers ignorant idea of there only being one case. he might have a point that something may have gone wrong. but with thousands of results from thousands of different locations and patients all with a common denominator. i think badecker has to realise that the place he gets his scripts from are wrong

yes there was.
and thats where you fell flat last time in May when you cicled this same myth your pushing.
they did try it on healthy subjects afterwards and looked at the changes. infact they done it a few times. infact different hospitals in different countries done it thus ruling out your silly idea that it was a bad specimen
 
i know you forgot that you got corrected. but atleast try to keep up with reality.
oh and you do know your 'kaufman' reference is from a doctor hats no longer in the profession is not actually treating people in ICU and his videos are from months and months ago.

we are not living in the january era of 2020 conspiracy. we are in july 2020

badecker even you debunked your own 'didnt pass koch' earlier in this topic
you realised it did pass koch then switched gear to then say koch is irrelevant.

stop circling the same old scripts. especially when you debunked yourself already by knowing it passed koch
wake up its 21st century not 12th century
there is a thing called technology and science now.. its not the days of magic and myth

actually having just read the REAL source information
he estimates the damage to be in excess of $500m but has not requested $500m
instead he has requested that trump
"declare a major disaster for the State of Minnesota because of extensive fire damage to public infrastructure caused by civil unrest"

this declaration will trigger a clause that ensures insurance companies pay out under that category.
the government will pay out to clear up the public streets of debris and public buildings(~$15m.. not $500m)
but some businesses insurance companies are refusing to pay out to their customers(business owners) due to it not being treated as a major disaster. it needs to be declared as a major disaster to force their hand and make them pay out.

yep insurance companies wont pay out for petty damage, and they are treating it as petty damage to avoid paying out

enjoy

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similar things have been requested in the past. like the airlines requesting that it be declared a global pandemic in february so that they can trigger the no flight clause without getting penalised for not flying.
without the declaration the airlines would have had to continue flying 'ghost flights' (no passenger) just to keep their slots and not be fined. but due to the pandemic declaration they were able to park their planes up and stop flying without penalty.

its already a criminal offence to falsify medical records
countries already have their own localised data collection methods

pretending the US CDC is the data centre and puppet master. just shows how fooled people have been by their faux media conspiracy stories