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1061  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: March 03, 2016, 08:49:03 PM
new to the thread. two questions:

1.) Whats the deal with coins that were NOT stolen, ie many alt coins. What are the chances on getting those back? Why didn't he open all wallets...

2.) Do I need to do anything to help get some coins back, if ever? I emailed this site: http://silverlaw.com/media/news-releases/silver-law-group-files-class-action-lawsuit-cryptsy-principal-paul-big-vern-vernon/

what else should i do? thks

3.) Wave goodbye to your funds

Cheers Jon Sad

Are the alt coins that were not stolen just going to sit there forever? if there are coins that are not stolen and just sitting there, can't a judge order wallets to be re-opened so users can withdraw their funds.

Why should you get all of your funds back and someone who had a different type get nothing?

If this goes to court everything will be sold so everyone can get something back.

In reality, all the coins were stolen, by cryptsy, so you won't get anything back.

1062  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BEWARE: igot.com is either running a scam or is out of cash on: March 03, 2016, 05:44:12 PM
Julie is the only id from which everyone gets a response and to top it most of the responses are closed automatically by Julie  Shocked
iGot is screwing all and just lame excuses

now even the blockchain is blocked as the chain is complete so many transactions are on a hold, now we would see this reason as their back up message very soon

Change over to another wallet guys, it is high time and get all your money from iGot in any manner

Here is a new trusted wallet that many are using specially those from my country India, but it supports all currencies and cryptos

Here is the link to 

Excellent idea.

Move the coins from one third party to another one so you can get fucked over by someone different if you ever manage to get coins from the first fucker.

The fact that we can use your referral link so you think you have a little more money stolen from than will actually be stolen really makes this a can't miss deal
1063  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: March 03, 2016, 01:05:40 AM
The moral of the story, as always, you are better off not giving your coins/money to scumbags instead of giving  your money to scumbags and hoping someone will come to your rescue.

And I really hope none of you geniuses think or ever thought there would be any other result from this. They were never shipping shit, they were never refunding shit. They are conmen and they took your money.
1064  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice fucks up.... yet again on: March 01, 2016, 04:43:07 PM
Why would they do anything to fix the problem if you are going to keep depositing without them fixing it?
1065  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Leroy Fodor has gone Full-Delusional; StakeMiners is 100% confirmed insolvent! on: March 01, 2016, 04:29:01 PM
So some other piece of shit idea failing before his (because he won't let anyone actually withdraw coins from his) is some sort of badge of honor?

And by the way Leroy, your shit is the definition of a ponzi, because you paid some people more than they deposited, and you never made any profits because the price of the coins went down faster than you could generate more, so you had to pay them with other people's deposits.

Can you pay out every single balance to every single investor right this second? If no you are running an insolvent operation.
1066  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud on: March 01, 2016, 04:18:08 PM
weird payments were sent out yesterday through stp and okpay no bitcoin yet

Just a guess, but they probably have to do a little more payouts from those methods because they have money left in those accounts that can be taken when people can complain about lack of payment. No such luck when you are being your own bank with bitcoin.
1067  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptsy - Cant Withdraw on: March 01, 2016, 04:14:17 PM
Sorry,

I have not really been following the story, but I have 7 BTC on there and cannot withdraw due to "maintainance" is this their way of saying, we are f'ing you over now?

The story actually isn't that long to read. They're having some large problems over there but at least they're being transparent (somewhat; which is more than other companies can say) and actually trying to regain their balance.

Here is a huge thread about Cryptsy, which is *slightly* longer to read. Wink

Oh, and good luck.

Please pm me if you think they're being transparent.

I have a bridge to sell you.
1068  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin mining vs. bitcoin cloud mining on: February 29, 2016, 10:49:17 PM
Can anyone here please tell me if bitcoin cloud mining is actually profitable
and are there any good companies out there to actually try?
It can in fact be very profitable if you can buy hash rates cheap. If you buy 10Ths+ from www.cloudmining.website, it'd cost only 7 BTC. At current difficulty, u'd make that in ~7 months. Rest of the 5 months is pure profit. A screenshot below shows how a third party cloud mining monitor made ROI with www.cloudmining.website within ~114 days, when difficulty was far low...



Are you still posting this year old screenshot like it means anything? weird that they managed to stop monitoring them, I wonder if that has anything to do with all the threads on here that mentioned that your piece of shit scam site stopped paying.
1069  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: February 29, 2016, 10:43:50 PM
I think that gambling can't be profitable in long run , because it's depending in luck and not guaranteed source of income, so you can easily lose anytime

anyone who consider gambling as a source of income is crazy, gambling wasn't made for profit, it was made for entertainment purposes so it will never be profitable in the long run

i guess all those people running casinos, dice sites and poker sites are crazy.
1070  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Martingale Profitable ??? on: February 29, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
Martiangle ultimately will only make you went bankrupt
yeah it will happen if you were very greedy and did not want to stop when it is already profitable

Why do people keep saying this?

How do you stop when you are in the middle of a losing streak and claim to be using martingale?

he is telling not to stop when you are in losing streak , read properly he is clearly telling that when you are using martingale and winning and are in profitable and when you are started to lose that time what ever you have winning profit just stop for that day and start fresh next day , but i wont suggest to use the same strategy on next day as you id the site owner will be knowing the strategy of your winning and will change it immediately and you will lose what you won and your bankroll also.

But martingale involves going on and on when you are in a losing streak.

It's impossible to say stop when you are ahead, because if you hit that losing streak you are going to lose a boatlaod of money. Martingale is a great wa to win a little bit of money and a great way to lose a ton of money.
1071  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Martingale Profitable ??? on: February 29, 2016, 04:57:44 PM
Martiangle ultimately will only make you went bankrupt
yeah it will happen if you were very greedy and did not want to stop when it is already profitable

Why do people keep saying this?

How do you stop when you are in the middle of a losing streak and claim to be using martingale?
1072  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be profitable in the long run! It is possible! on: February 29, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
To make gambling profitable in the long term you need to make bets with a positive expected value.

The people running the dice sites can do that, the people playing on the dice sites cannot.
1073  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is cloud mining is real ? on: February 29, 2016, 04:53:56 PM
The sites where you can point the miners to mine with pools or addresses of your choice are legitimate (and won't make you money).

The sites where you can't do that are ponzis (and won't make you money).
1074  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: February 28, 2016, 08:00:33 PM
well  i think best strategy in roulette is to bet on red or black, it's 50% on 50% , you win you you lose, it's easy to play then, no need to think alot like beting on number
I tried this strategy on dice game, and bet always 50% 50%, I think yes, this strategy worth to test, and I also play 70% 30% in dice and roulette games it is also a good stretchy in my experience.

the odds of winning without knowing the payout is useless.

The combination of the odds and the payout leads to the expected value. Every bet on roulette (and most on dice sites i've seen) have the same EV. So do whatever you want, the end result is the same.
1075  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: February 28, 2016, 07:37:13 PM
Just practiced James Bond strategy little bit modified  and it works .

€105 bankroll

- €40 on 2nd 12
- €60 on 19-36
- €5 on zero

Repeat it , once you hit lost it all at small number, tripled it.

Homework problem:

Compare the expected value of this to the expected value of putting 100 on number 7 every time.

If you don't know how to do that math, search for my posts in this thread where I debunked this idiotic strategy with different numbers.
1076  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Martingale Profitable ??? on: February 28, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
Yes if the algorithm of site is not too much greedy to gamblers or you knew the game well.
How does that affect the profit or loss ? Its actually based on luck . If you are lucky and not get many losses, you will end up as a winner, else if you dont have luck, you will only and only loose always.


Luck can't beat math.

If the bet has a negative expected value, doing it over and over again (like with martingale) has only one possible outcome.
1077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: February 28, 2016, 07:31:19 PM
well  i think best strategy in roulette is to bet on red or black, it's 50% on 50% , you win you you lose, it's easy to play then, no need to think alot like beting on number

You forgot about the green numbers.

There is no reason to think in roulette. It's all dumb luck, and every strategy is equally bad.
1078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: February 28, 2016, 07:28:02 PM
Red or Black is best strategy i think, it's 50/50, you win or you go home, so it's all about luck
but still the chance is under 50% because i had several times play roulette and very difficult to not lost during play this game but i was heard that some people could won a lot from playing this game

Yes i agree with you, the chance to win is under 50% because there is also 0 which is green, CMIIW. i think using martingale on red or black is good though.
If such you can also martingale on dice and its faster and much easier. I think the best idea on roulette is to select some 10 numbers on roulette board and keep betting or say martingale unless you win and then repeat.

Picking 10 numbers has the same EV as picking 1 number, 3 numbers, 11 numbers, 25 numbers, or 38 numbers.
1079  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Be Warned Hero Member Scammer - esotericizm on: February 28, 2016, 06:43:39 PM
Thanks,

He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th. 

if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here.

And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway.
Because of the trust system, because of naivety,  because trusted accounts can be used pretty effectively for scamming.

Low Life.
Its a waste of account though, he could have earned more than $200 with his Hero account.  Getting to become a Hero is not joke as you have to spend a lot of time here in the forum. Hope everyone get to paint his account in red.

How can you earn those 200 bucks? Sig campaign for months? Getting ripped off by selling the account ot another scumbag? Why not just take what you can get now?
1080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing whenever you're Gaining? on: February 28, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
We always start betting at small amount of bitcoin and suddenly make it grow but whenever we reach such amount we always lose alot even when you change your winning chance to 90% or 95% you will get 5 losing streak. Is this just coincidence or just sites have those kind of stuff that make it happen??

i sometimes have the same feeling about this kind of situation, that the site is doing some shenanigans in the back that causes me to lose after i had a winning streak and accumulated a small amount.

but the fact is (if the site is provably fair) it is just our luck that runs out and we end up losing what we have won in the past winnings.

Definitely check to make sure the provably fair is actually done properly and not a lie, but they don't have to cheat you to win when the odds are in their favor.

If we flip a coin and every time it's heads you give me one dollar and every time it's tails I give you 99 cents, if we keep playing I will get all of your money eventually.

The problem with bitcoin dice sites (and actually all online gambling when you think about it) is that it takes a lot less time to play a game online than in real life, so "eventually" happens a lot faster, especially when you tell a bot to bet over and over again.
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