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10641  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the usa is technically not a nation, its a geographic cooperation on: July 12, 2020, 09:39:10 AM
USA is like the European Union.

EU has 28 states: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia..

USA has 50 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware...

yep this is a closer description compared to kingscorpios nonsense
also kingscorpio doesnt realise that 'nation' is not limited to language. it can also be a collective community based on territory, historic common knowledge of a certain community in a certain area/land being there


this is why 'micronations' are hard to become adopted because a cult cant just say they are a micronation in a month without having a unique thing that sets them apart to be truly recognised as separate from neighbouring communities. especially if that micronation is within a landspace already set up and recognised as a nation with its own rules against devolving into micronations.

take catalonia, that didnt happen overnight
10642  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Advocates for free speech start to make their voices known on: July 12, 2020, 12:37:05 AM
Some of the fallout so far from that letter.
https://youtu.be/nN3B_q40RyY

as i predicted
millenial drama

and the never ending cycle begins
wanting free speach unless it disrespects certain groups then it should be shunned and silenced
then arguments about what groups should and should not be on this list
the arguments that some non group list chat is defined as group list chat to get it revoked
then cycle back to wanting free speach

i can see this ending up that 'woke millenials' suddenly email conference organisers and when rejected call it a breach of rights. same with not getting their article published in the news.

meanwhile while these supposed 'woke' kids argue about wanting freedom of expression/speach. they keep ignoring that the platforms they wish to have their voices magnified are not part of the right. never were and never should be. the owner of the platform gets to choose who to invite in or not.

so instead of arguing about twitter or amazon books or google/youtube removing search results.
those wanting free speach need to also create their own free platform. create their own music label. create their own book store. lease their own billboards.
because they will never get free open door policy at no cost/no effort on other peoples platforms. and so need to wake up and accept that the platforms are not a right.. unless your the owner. then you have he right to allow what you like..

.. but of course remember there are responsibilities and repercussions that come with rights too
10643  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the usa is technically not a nation, its a geographic cooperation on: July 12, 2020, 12:02:49 AM
in germany they have multiple languages too, sorbian and north fresian for instance

in russia they have 35 main languages accepted in russia and 100 minority languages

in france they have several languages too

..
but here is the funny part americans feel patriotic but say they speak english
tom@o vs tom8o shows the difference of pronounciation.. oops i mean pronunciation
10644  Other / Off-topic / Re: Elon Musk is currently richer than Warren Buffet.. on: July 11, 2020, 07:45:46 PM
Space mining is going to make a lot of today's children trillionaires. 
And also there is debate going about space mining bubble bursts, we actually don't know the use case of those rare space metals until that the value of them will keep rising.

if you ever watch TV shows like gold rush. that shows gold miners working day and night for a week. churning through so dozens of yards of dirt an hour. gallons of diesel an hour. all for just half a jam jar of gold.. you start to realise that if they can get a 'nugget'. the size of a soccerball for $1m they will make profit

so imagine filling the cargo hold of a space shuttle with multiple soccerball nuggets. and have it only cost a few $mill round trip. its easy money
10645  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The Fat Emperor talks to a leading virologist about herd immunity on: July 11, 2020, 03:34:02 PM
i watched the video and heres my take

my initial reaction at the intro where he introduced a silicon valley guy who's not a immunologist. i thought.. ok this is gonna be full of crap..
BUT
dare i say it
he is 92.5% got it in a knutshell bar a few small inconsistencies

such as the small peptide waste molecules siting at the tip of the receptor. and why
ill explain
these receptors (Y shape at cell surface) are full of the ribbons of proteins in a particular shape that are designed for other particular molecules shape... some cells need oxygen so there is a Y receptor formed to want to grab oxygen molecule.. some need glucose, some need protein
when the cell has enough material inside it and is starting to make excess it excretes the excess out of that receptor and the receptor holds onto to.
its the mechanism of saying im hungry give me apples when the receptor is empty. and not hungry dont feed me when the receptor is full

anyway. lets get to the point

viruses have their own receptors/surfaces which over the millenia of mutations and pure luck found their ribbon pattern(shape) that identifies as an ingrediant a lung cell wants. without being the ingrediant itself
(dressing a bomb timer as a normal clock mechanism for a clock making factory)
once inside the virus multiplying . but then having soo much virus that it just bursts the cell open(trojan horse)

by blocking the lungcell receptor is not really meant to be advertising to the immune system 'peekaboo nasties inside' its instead the virus telling its fellow viruses, 'skip this factory guys im already inside. try the next factory'
however our immune systems t cells use this oppertunity to catch the invader at the factory door
BY CHANCE
..
now lets deal with the T cells
the guy correctly corrected the host about the function of T-cells. but i would prefer to descibe it as your body whereby the more healthier you are the more pure luck variable shaped T cell receptors your body is making randomly. along side ones it already has blueprints for.
when a pure luck t cell receptor latches onto something. it then locks on and blocks that virus receptor from locking onto a lung cell receptor. the T cell will then recognise it latched onto something. and split off a part of itself to then signal to go make more

this pure luck part is the what was at the start called the 'innate immune system' block
emphasis here. t cells are not just waiting for the lung cell to present itself with the viral molecule.
Tcells can latch on to viruses before it gets to the cell aswell. which is where if done right and there happen to be more security guards watching outside the factory and not many invaders in the neghbourhood you get successful no symptomatic 'innate immunity' defense.
but it al depends on how much lucky random security guards are outside watching the neighbourhood and how little amount of invaders there are. for your immune system to fight it off without asking to train many more guards to help out. and the effectiveness of a small team of guards against a small team of invaders to need much reinforcement is the 'iffy question' of the whole 'not necessary get a positive antibody test'

so keep that in mind
innate immunity
is more so about how many invaders got in. and how lucky your security guards can defend without calling in more trained up troops

but the important thing to note is those with compromised immune systems or other metabolic issues wont have as many random luck tcells and thus less luck. or if taught the identity of an invader your body may not be training new guards fast enough

being able to just be in the right place at the right time to grab a threat before its done damage
is innate immunity

just got to add a faceplant moment
the host between 40:00-45:00 is doing what i expected and trying to take the guests knowledge. but then spin it to say sars-covid-2 is just a common cold.. (facepalm)

the guest was talking about the identifying threat whilst virus is inside and multiply and signalling its full.. because the LUCK of innate immunity before getting in the lung cell is a small % (very slim wedge on the piechart).
the more invaders the more the t cells need to replicate the more it will show on a test

if it gets into a cell multiplies and bursts out. the more bursts out is the more symptomatic you will get
because your body is then getting damaged

..
the last points where he was mentioning the maybe/partial immunity due to previous families of sars..
he seems to be overselling this


yes your body has billions of different t cells
if we say 1bill varied immuno cells in your system while not infected by anything,
once your invaded/there might be just 200k-500k pot luck compatible to sars 2.

these pot luck come about from previous infections of similar viruses
ill explain
imagine MERS
once infected and your 500k potluck from prefious viral family sars1 tcells latch on, signal its found a latch, ramps up replicating more immuno cells of that type to then be upto like 500m(really sick and need a big fight against huge invasion)
or it might be less invaders so less production

and as you get better/were not as sick in first place, it dampens down to just 50m if your not being invaded as much (season stil present)
and decrease until lets say 1m it keeps as 'memory cells' once the season is over

those 1m memory cells are then used to make a few varients. so you might then have 200k-500k potluck that can be identifiable to sars2 (and lots of other 200k-500k batches for other pot lucks)

now here is the thing.
if you are only being invaded by 200k-500k sars 2. then your lucky it wasnt taking a direct breath from someone exhaling 500m viruses from someone really sick
but if your upclose such as a nurse with a very sick patient that is exhaling 500million of sars 2. then your 200k-500k immune system wont be enough to latch onto all viruses. nor fast enough to produce more tcells to then handle the viral load in that first wave/inhale.
and so the virus gets passed the early defenses and gets into the cells and the trojan horse is then set and ready to break out with more viruses from within

this is why the 'innate immunity' is very low % once you factor in the pot luck vs invader viral load and the replication rate of more cells to defend before getting into the cells
for instance a upclose inhale from a very sick person might be a 0.1% innate immunity chance
where as if 2 metres away only inhaling 1m viral load it might be a 20-50% innate immunity chance


obviously having some potluck first off due to it being a known family of previously immunised virus speeds up what can then be replicated into more tcells. to try catching up after the first wave of attack.
but its more about that each wave attack has a low viral load to have best success
to avoid it getting to attack the lung cells

and this part is the reason why doctors even healthy ones getting up close to sick patients and breathed on many days will get symptomatic sick. and would need face protection to dilute the viral load due to not being able to just distance themselves.

where as staying at a 2metre distance to dilute how much invaders gets into your mouth helps you fight it off sooner. with less symptoms. or if lucky no symptoms

its not an exact 20-50% pre-immunity guaranteed symptom free thing due to previous mutant strains. its also the viral load and the bodies health to efficiently replicate more when needed

but you also have to consider the immune systems speed of replication to be ready for the next round.
which might bring it down to just 10%or 1% chance of symptom free infection even from 2metre distance if your immune system is not fast enough to make more or you have no pre existing pot luck due to immuno problems/deficiencies..

.. a downside of this innate immunity. is that your body didnt build up 500m antibodies to then have millions of memory antibodies. instead it only has a few hundred k to then use as blueprints to the make under 100k pot luck variants.

this means a person that says they never ever had a runny nose or cough either has a very high immune system to have under 100k multiply to millions real quick.
or they are just risking their chances each time of having less memory cells so that eventually a varient of a variant of a variant then gets them sicker

its why having a mild symptom infection (cough and slight warm temp) is better than those who never have a cough. because as they age the ones that never built up much tolerance offensively will later have less tolerance defensively once their speed of replication slows down with age/other illness
10646  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: July 10, 2020, 12:31:41 PM
juan cries that i have not explained what CSW game is
juan cries that it doesnt fit his opinion
juan cries that i the repeat the CSW game
juan cries that he just aint understanding it

ok juan we get it you cry and dont understand.
i could not make it more clearer what ira's game is. than his actual words in the screen shot+links of the documents on record that show exactly what he is requesting

even a child could understand that ira's request sounds exactly like the things that CSW would like too

..
its very weird that you just want to repeat insults, cries, trolling attempts of how/why you dont understand.
its very weird how even after a truce you go back to insulting and then trying to spin it into speculating the future if's maybe's and could be's again

but fear not. i can clearly understand your opinions flaws and its misunderstandings. so you dont have to repeat your speculations further. so you can take a break

if you still dont understand my stance on the case. dont read my stance. JUST READ IRA'S REQUEST
which i have asked you to do many times. although you pretend whats wrote in a case is irrelevant to the case(facepalm). just read whats in the case to know what the case is about. its that simple

enjoy a 4 month break

edit to answer the two clowns below.
doomad: IRA's request is no crystal ball its in the record document. CSE game(patent troll strategy) is 4 years old story
juan: your now jsut being a nazi grammar troll. seems you have scratched the bottom of the rebuttal barrel because you cant rebut the actual iras requests because they are clearly recorded
10647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin network knowledge poll on: July 10, 2020, 11:56:50 AM
if you only have one 'peer' that the software is hardcoded to(middleman). and that middleman can just ignore your transaction for reasons outside of the bitcoin rules.. then your not part of bitcoin (network/infrastructure)
EG lite wallets such as a proposed starbucks app
EG and exchange app

if your not able to store/examine the blockchain to ensure that funds received are actually confirmed. and all you get is a server(middleman) saying yes or no. again your not using the bitcoin network

..
i could go on about
if you are on a network where the blockdata is not the same as the bitcoin network. your not using bitcoin
if your using a network without a blockchain. your not using bitcoin

if your on another network playing with parent/child transactions. where parents locked for a month and the child daily transactions are measured in different units of measure. then your not using bitcoin
EG LN
(eg if a banknote says 1 pound(silver) sterling.. its not silver because its paper and doesnt actually weigh 1lb) the real silver wont move out of the vault until it gets cleared authorisation

just writing transactions offchain. where it looks like they 'might' get paid favourably. does not make it a valid/confirmed payment
(eg writing dodgy cheques.. cheques are only valid when they have been cleared by the bank.)

cheques are not real fiat. they only facilitate the movement of fiat once they have cleared/confirmed
10648  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin cost on: July 10, 2020, 08:27:00 AM
if you mean the price of the asset compared to underlying value.
well its not $20k but then its not $5k
maybe do some research on historic prices and make some judgements.

but im guessing you mean trade/withdrawal fee's within an exchange
each exchange is different. some pretend to offer low trade fee's. (maker/taker 0.X%) but then the spread between buys and sells are also wider which is where exchanges get their other hidden cut in the middle
while diluting your profitability due to the wide spread

then there is the deposit and withdrawal fee's when you want to exit the exchange
this forum has a sub-category about exchanges so best to check in there.

also be very careful. a few(more then care to admit) exchanges are not official exchanges of carefully vetted businesses with insurance/liabiity. but instead 'boilerroom' setups.

so be cautious
do alot of due elegance not only on the costs/fee's but also on the service/site you find legitimacy
especially alot of the ones pumping adverts on social media.

if you cant find a true office address in their contacts and cant find a business registration number. be very careful and dont risk it
you may think for a few weeks your making profit inside the boiler room type exchanges. but then realise there is no real way to withdraw funds. and suddenly their 'support' contacts stop replying

imagine the bitcoin era like the 90's stocks/commodity era. (wolf of wallstreet)
10649  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: July 10, 2020, 08:09:53 AM
all that juan wants to keep circling back to is:
......... [blah blah blah]

 i see from now till october+ juan will just want to talk about coins coins coins
so ill leave him in that ignorant 'its about coin' bubble.

So, in essence, franky, the wanky, we are agreeing that our discussion is becoming repetitive.  We have both exhausted our various talking points, and stated our case several times and in several ways.... correct?  

Can we rest assured and let our already discussed information pieces stand until there might be new developments in the case?

What do you think, franky?  Do we have a current truce-point in our discussion   Tongue Tongue (until you say a new dumb and seemingly implausible thing, which probably will not keep us in silence for very long)?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  
i agree you thought ira's real requests(recorded). caused your 'its about coins' (speculative) loop
i agree that you finally hint to realise your stuck in your infinity loop of 'its about coins"
i agree trying to inform you of errors causing your loop. is then itself causing another loop
i agree that you need to read the documents and not trolling someone because they live outside your loop

so yes a truce.
seeing as this case is going to be in october now.
.. lets see if in october you can have a fresh mind thats escaped the 'its about coins' loop
and finally recognise the request for bitcoin creation IP desire/claim/tactic thats completely obvious.
4 months should be long enough to fix your own loop error
one last hint(though said many times)
stick to the requests iras team actually made and dont call their actual words irrelevant. just to then go back to your speculative loop

have a good 4 months rest
10650  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 09, 2020, 03:22:26 PM
Wrong again Bob.  The PCR tests, in they way they are mis-used for 'covid-19' against the complaints of the developer, simply means that there was a tiny trace of a genomic sequence in the initial sample, or that the cycles were so high that a false positive occurred.  ...then of course there was the story about the swabs being contaminated with the SARS-cov-2 itself...

Are you saying that Fausti and the rest of the Gods of science are going to be able to design a vaccine which instigates the production of antibodies for 'covid-19', but they cannot even tell what such an antibody looks or act like enough to even have a test for it!?!

1. the PCR test has nothing to do with swabs.
it has nothing to do with the chemical used after for testing
call it a 3 step process
you can also do PCR with different input methods (pipettes/syringes)
the chemical analysis at the end is not unique to PCR either.
just to make things clear for you

PCR is basically the bit in the middle as you refer to as the 'cycling'
as for the false worry of swabs and chemical contamination.
there were not very good processes in place early on. because they didnt have good practices in place and were just rushing to get a system running
but this is more emphasis that your stuck in narratives of january/february. and your stuck not realising its july and alot has changed


yea you might find a few examples where a few mistakes are made. but those things have their own safeguards now and its not really a big problem you elude to

they have disposable pipettes and do certain parts in different area's to have good practices to avoid cross contamination now
and in a small under 0.1% chance of cross contamination. well they just ask for retests.

(previous contamination issues were due to re-using pipettes which came into contact with the virus. and then the chemical... now they dispose of the pipette tips after each use)
and use smaller bottles of chemicals so that in a small 0.1% chance of contamination. it doesnt affect a big batch.. plus other things




2. a vaccine is not an antibody.
they dont need to play around with recognising a certain antibody 'puzele piece' specific to covid
a vaccine uses the VIRUS(not antibody) that has been made impotent to replication while still having the unique identifiers. this then lets your bodies own antibodies see it and deal with it without harm

..
maybe try to research away from the similar sites badecker does and then you might learn more then the narrow minded thoughts of the small cultish antivax group

..
ignoring all the social drama queens just trying to get a name/famous/money
if true antivaxxers actually ignored those anti-vax social media cults. and instead actually done some real research. then they could actually find some real issues with vaccines worthy of discussing..
.. but instead you and your ilk will just repeat the stupid stuff that has already been debunked but you are too lazy to want/care to actually work out for yourself
10651  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Advocates for free speech start to make their voices known on: July 09, 2020, 01:41:47 PM
I'm superficial in my thinking and can't see past my own nose.
I will attempt one more time and I'll do it by quoting from that letter
Quote

More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms. Editors are fired for running controversial pieces; books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class; a researcher is fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study; and the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes.
The real threat to freedom of speech is not about youtube videos or social media. Those are just the outward symptoms of what is going on in the institutions of society.

your posts also highlighted things about people editing quote to make it seem like hitler was a trans-phobe and other books about white supremacy. bla blah blah

ok i get it. you are crying that certain things are being surpressed.
ok i get it you want to shout for the sake of shouting because you have examples of how in history people were made to shut up and people were not given the platform/microphone they wanted

you do know that just because you have a typewriter does not then mean your auto awarded a book publishing deal or a job at a news paper
just be cause your a newspaper writer. doesnt mean not matter what you say it should be automatically be printed.
just because you wrote a theory. doesnt mean you automatically deserve it being peer reviewed
..
(modern version) just because you have a webcam doesnt mean your videos then deserve to be on youtube

the 'cancel culture' is a millenial buzzword and is very much about social media of millenials thinking they deserve and think its a right to have stupid videos published and watched by billions by default

..
but what is more important is not arguing about the platform or microphone method of getting a message out being the problem. but instead the actual message involved.

i see too many people who are just highlighting this 'advocating for free speach' but when asking them what important message do you have they just say 'no one can hear me speak'
circling an endless and meaninless campaign of crying.

so forget arguing about past stuff.. time travel is impossible. so dont waste the present time on the past.
if you have a REAL message.
dont think you auto deserve a platform to voice it.
dont cry that your not having access to such platforms
instead actually understand the message you want to make and then actually go and do something.

for instance. talk to politicians direct. dont b*tch about them on blogs/forums about how they are not listening or viewing you blog. actually talk to them
dont be ambiguous, dont talk to those just about 'speaking'/'being heard' problems in society

instead get right to the matter
is it racism, homophobia, education. PICK ONE

by being too broad, trying to talk about books and social media and peer reviews. all your just doing is crying that certain times peoples idea's are not becoming famous.
but your not addressing the idea itself of each example.
all you are doing is trying to sound like you want the world to have free access to bookdeals/ free conference stage time. free access to social media.

and politics knows thats a NON-government business for profit thing. so nothing to do with them
if book companies or stores want to recall a product. they can. if a conference wants to cancel a speaker and invite someone else up to the mic. they can.
so dont waste time on the platform blame drama.
instead find out WHAT THE MESSAGE/IDEA/THEORY IS and if it contains solutions and actually knows the causes of problems and it actually knows who it should target to get change. then use different ways of getting the message out.

again. dont just cry that a message is not being heard because a certain platform removed it.
if a book is recalled. turn it into a movie/documentary/podcast and use a different method/platform
if its a news item. then work out who the news concerns. and direct messages at them.

but if its just about getting viewcounts/readers just for the sake of notoriety of being seen/read. then your wasting your time.

dont get me wrong..
i understand that capitalism is powerful and these book publishers decide who they let publish
the capitalism of news media only wanting fluff pieces that pander to their elite friends.
peer reviews that pander to getting grants and notoriety, but real invention/innovation gets locked up in patents and NDA's

i do get it and i dislike it too.
but if your only message is how the capitalist/elitests are not letting you use their business platform. you really are missing the point.

liberalism is not about reliance on capitalists as a stage/platform.
liberalism/libertarians are self sufficient and find their own path. do things for themselves
they dont want reliance on others or asking permission.

so find a real message/idea/innovation/problem(and solution) and actually act on it more direct.
not complain or cry that others are not supporting your idea and not making it auto famous
10652  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Another stimulus package is coming, where should congress be spending this money on: July 09, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
for airlines
tell the airports to stop charging stupid fee's for ticket booth  leasing and plane parking fees.. while not operating.
sure pay the flight crew, and other ground staff wages.

then the flight companies wont incur any debt and can just be happily in limbo until flights are back to normal

10653  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to stop colluding, poker bots, and other types of cheating in poker? on: July 09, 2020, 09:22:34 AM
simple solution

stop playing online poker. get a few friends and have a real physical game.
10654  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Advocates for free speech start to make their voices known on: July 09, 2020, 08:56:54 AM
you are the one that does not understand the deeper layers

the 'cancel culture' is the millenial cry baby crap about platforms/microphones being wrongly thought of as rights
i talked about that

the 'advocates of free speach make their voice known' is them shouting ' im shouting to see if i can shout'
i talked about that

the thing is
1. cancel culture is millenials/genZ thinking that the platform is a right. and that being cancelled is a breach of right.
its not. sorry cry babies its not

2. the shouting just to show you have an ability to shout. just doesnt come with any valid message worth hearing.

3. if you shout about shouting. people will just say 'ok you shouted. now what. stop wasting everyones time your annoying, bye' and suddenly you have no audience

4. my point is dont shout for the sake of shouting. thinking your doing the world good by showing your ability to shout. dont blame the platform or the audience for wanting to shut you up and then go on daily rants for months about how no one is letting you be heard.

5. dont just make videos of meaningless crap knowing they wil get removed just so you can cry about the removal. to then have an excuse to rage about the removal.. actually understand that the content of the message should have some meaning. not how its distributed/limited

actually find a message worth listening to.

this whole lets fight cancel culture is the same as punching someone in the head because they ignored you. you end up just looking like a lunatic.
this whole lets just shout to make sure everyone on the street can hear me. makes you look like a lunatic. because your just shouting to prove you can shout.

if there is an actual real life actual fault in politics/society that needs to change to make people live more happily together. then look at that fault. dont go describing the fault and its history and blame something decades ago. dont pick at how it cant be changed as your just not changing it.
instead look at the present situation and find present solutions. then work out who is best to change the present situations and then aim your message towards those critical people that can create the change
in short have a specific and meaningful message and target audience

anything else is just lunatics going in circles being angry like typical millenials/gen Z
10655  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We’ve been scammed – WHO now says “no evidence” of asymptomatic CV transmission on: July 09, 2020, 08:37:35 AM
this is a simple reason

those without symptoms are not having the virus ravishing their systems replicating(enough/yet). so the amount they exhale is so small the risk of cross-infection is small.
its like a invasion of a billion troops vs an invasion of a couple thousand
odds get worse of colonisation the more troops involved.

it takes time to colonise and then replicate. so dont be so eager to think its a victory after only a few days
its a limbo event of not being sure either way.
 
so if you come into contact with someone with symptoms. its not a auto suggestion that you got it/had it and now immune. it takes day/weeks to build up immunity. not hours
so it can mean you:
got it and yet to show symptoms
were lucky and have not even been infected
got it and your body has successfully battled it because you were not attacked by a huge invasion that outpasses your defenses


yes if you have symptoms stay home.
but if you know u came into contact with someone. and for like 3-4 days think 'ok i have no symptoms lets go mingle again.. you could possibly then while mingling on the 5th day start having symptoms and start coughing near/breathing on/getting it on your hand/surfaces and then onto other people

and thats just stupid and risky to those others.

so again to be sure you dont start coughing/breathing near people and surfaces others use its best to be smart and use common sense and just not get into situations where your upclose and personal with someone if you been told/know someone else who was sick, who got upclose and personal with you

this also applies to things that you touch and come into close proximity to
such as one example, a tablet computer. holding them less then a metre from your face. breathing on them and touching them can accumilate viruses on the surfaces. and then getting other people to touch that surface gets it on them
(before the idiot thinks i suggest only tablets at risk: ANY SURFACE that more than just you touch)
door handles is another example(but not limited to(for idiots sake))


one thing is for sure though
the idiot just debunked his whole notion of assymptomatic herd immunity he was hoping for
10656  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 09, 2020, 07:51:05 AM
and the idiot previously doesnt know that there are two types of test

1) a nasel/throat(mucus) swap test that is then PCR processed and then analysed for characteristics specific to unique features of the covid19 virus - this ill call the identifier test

2) a blood sample test processed in a similar process as a pregnancy/litmus paper method. that indicates certain antibodies that reveal that your immunity has been triggered to a massive invasion and also that your body is already signaled in that it has performed a battle strategy/able to recreate more antibodies for future battles and the mission general is on the ground helping with the cleanup - ill call this the battle success indicator
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yes the idiots previous post is talking about the second test. the antibody test.
not the first test the actual covid identifier test

yes if you have tested positive for the first meaning infected by covid
... and then.. separetly a few weeks later positive for the second indicating your body has successfully battled the infection
then combining the two pieces of information you can summarise that your body successfully fought off covid.
well the lack of symptoms also adds into the summery


however if you only have the second test. then it shows you fought off something. but it doesnt reveal what

the antibody test never has nor will be a "what" viral battle was fought. but a "that" your in recovery and at that point immune from whatever your body was fighting

the idiot above gets very confused
or is being a troll .
but one thing is for sure no one in the science community has ever thought the antibody test was a covid specific identifier test.
its just an antibody test
it identifies the battle was won. not which battle

idiot above does not realise that there is (1) a covid identifier test
but is just copy and pasting his cultish site that is pretending only the antibody test exists and is in use.
idiot
10657  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 08, 2020, 10:01:48 PM
many examples of proof

such as covid affecting amazonian/african/aboriginal tribes that simply dont get their 'jabs'
yep some tribes who then get sick with covid find a way to nearest village or their body has been taken samples of.

if your thinking.. well we know your not thinking.. let me reword it
if your repeating nonsense that covid is not a virus but some pre-existing condition. your wrong
we live in the 21st century where technology actually helps

i know you might be afraid of science. i know that the truth might make you realise how much money you wasted paying into those cultish scripting sites.

but just for once. try to do some research without linking to your lame faux media
10658  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Pharmaceutical Drugs Are Now The 3rd Leading Cause of DEATH" in the US. on: July 08, 2020, 09:21:29 PM
At least I can show an article that is linked all over the place. All you ever seem to have is blab.

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EDIT: Snopes says that the 700,000 figure is a lie, and that the number is really more like 120,000. Of course, Snopes says physicians, and not hospitals for this. And of course, Snopes has been found to be as untrustworthy as Wikipedia.

just because trolls post trollish stuff on a million sites doesnt make it correct by the simple detail of it being on a millions sites.

you can create a million posts saying your elon musk.. it doesnt make it so just because a million posts say so
what you actually have to do is do some proper research away from the sites that you love so much. and actually do some independant thinking

stuff like overdoses using doctor prescribed medication. is actually USER casued abuse. by the USER deciding to take too many
stuff like pretending you have a headache, when actually your just a drug user wanting stronger prescribed meds. is again USER abused

the amount of people that actually die due to medication taken as prescribed is way way way lower then you think
and the casues for these deaths are not the pills or the doctor but instead the USER's choice.

so when you then look at actual causes due to medical neglect due to things like bad batches of drugs. or bad treatment. where its obvious a doctor/pharmacy was at fault. you see the numbers are really small

but i do laugh how you think its a big 3rd killer. yet you cant even get a number that resembles reality. nor even numbers that are within a certain range
is it 800k (number 1 killer) or 200k(4th) or 120(6th)
or less
even you dont know.

yet weirdly your very quick to post a topic about something you dont know just to get another clickbait source. hoping your action of linking people will get it the fame. and then somehow fame alone is the proof that its proof.

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as for the snopes thing.
the other claim about medical negligence in hospital being 700k
BIG FAT LIE
out of 2.5mill deaths anywhere(home/retirement village/roads) only 700k deaths for all/any causes happen in a hospital.
so the cultish group trying to assume all deaths in hospital must be medical negligence. is just the most stupidest thing of all
10659  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Advocates for free speech start to make their voices known on: July 08, 2020, 08:37:52 PM
I'm a moron that thinks this is all about social media and young people.
You're right.
I just like to type shit out that has no bearing on what's been said.
Are you seriously this dense? Please go educate yourself cause every time you post something in here you just look like a moron. At the very least go watch the videos I posted.

the link in the topic creation post.. maybe YOUR interpretations that lean to YOUR view of certain things.
but here is the thing. i am making posts several layers deeper than your topics link

that link is just a cry about how the writer feels his voice is being surpressed where editors are sacked and books are retracted..
and then a flimsy open request that people should revolt.. but without much thought on the process

the writer and therefore you need to first understand what the actual freedom of speech is/protects. and what it doesnt. you can save yourself some time.
then you can have a clearer mind of how to handle situations. without it just sounding like the standard millenial cries

so here i go again
everyone has vocal chords. and by nature/human right you can use the vocal chords
once you realise that a certain platform. whether it TV news or social media or newspaper is not the voice. but just a service/business/platform.
once you realise that those platforms can come and go. and are not permanent. you start to grasp the bigger picture.. basically dont moan about the platform

heck even the internet is not even a right.. so if you want to make this whole thing about people taken off the internet.. you are just going to get yourself going in circles.

its not even about trying to empower people about their democratic rights. because thats just wasting time just to say 'you get to put a tick in a box every 4 years, use it' ...... then what
a tick in a box, does not describe the actual issues you want addressed.

you can spend ages trying to fight social media bans and newspaper editorials that fail to publish stories. but those platforms are just temporary businesses that can come and go. and not part of basic rights

as for the message.
if your asking people to find their voice to then shout they want their voice heard. then boom. voice heard.. now what

until you can figure out what actual underlying issue is concerning people and needs to be changed all your really doing is saying ' im shouting to make sure i can still shout' and when asked what are you shouting about. you then say 'im shouting about shouting'
again not gonna get you far. and your just circling the millenial pond

however when it comes to real things that need changing and you feel the real things are getting either not heard or drowned out in a sea of screaming millenials.
try to actually list the problems. find the root of it. and then find out who can actually change it
dont try shuting it out randomly just to be heard. find out who to direct it towards specifically.
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all this millenial crap of i need to shout because i believe its my right to shout and iwant everyone to hear me shout. just doesnt really list any problems or solutions

so if its for instance black lives matter
dont go down the path of 'it started off with slavery' because slavery ended a century ago and the slaves got compensated. they had families. they live they bred they, they had lives

if its about the jim crow laws, segregation ended ages ago too

actually find the issues of 2020 and the easy fixes for 2021
and not just cry that no one is listening. or people have told you to shut up because it just misses any point you want to make
dont make the message about not being able to transmit a message. where if asked what the message was about you say 'it was a message about failed message transmission.. because again misses the point.

actually find something real that needs changing and without blaming social media, without blaming that you dont get invited to karaoke to shout on stage. dont blame not being a speaker at a conference. but instead understand the real problem you feel is not getting heard. and think of solutions.

people dont respond to crying and 'something needs to be done'
people DO reply to lists of things that can be done if you list how and by who

..but nah i guess you will just want it to be about how your voice is being silenced so without making any societal point you just want to rage scream to be heard. and acknowledged you were heard

i do hope you get out of your millenial mindset of screaming for the sake of screaming. and actually find a cause worth listening to. just so you can escape the circle of being unheard

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there are many messages of people making up conspiracy stories. their message has no point and is done to just glamourise themself and try getting some group of people around them

instead pick a real topic
war. racial hate. police abuse. over criminalisation or petty crimes and under criminalisation of vile crimes
find something really meaningful and work out the cause and the solution

just dont make it about im angry about something and i want people to hear me growl
just dont make it about wanting people to hear you for the sake that you feel unheard
just dont make it about wanting to get fanclubs together of like minded people to endlessly circle the topic in a clubhouse on a secluded island.

otherwise your just not going to get heard and nothing will change
dig deeper then the blame game of not being heard for the sake of being heard. get a better message first
10660  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Pharmaceutical Drugs Are Now The 3rd Leading Cause of DEATH" in the US. on: July 08, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
YOU dont even know what the article is talking about

you always seem to be instantly pasting these stupid topics before even bothering to understand what you are posting

its like your on drone/autopilot mode just spreading copy/pasting whatever you randomly find on the internet.
can you atleast try to understand things before posting topics about it

by the way. medical negligence/medicine deaths are no where near 800k or 200k so if you cant even get your numbers right then why even post a topic about numbers.

heck if you even tried to combine multiple sub categories together that even sniff near the category of medical negligence which you continually in many topics pretend is bad. even factual numbers combined together wouldnt even combine to be anywhere close to the numbers you mention.

try harder next time
atleast do some research and not just copy and paste nonsense
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