the only fee that actually goes to me is a 10% profit cut from investors
Paid in silver, I presume?
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My current thinking is that the most straight-forward is just a flat 1% house edge on all bets.
Innovative! When players do well and win money, there will be a glut of valor on the market (and no new silver) so I expect the house edge will be rather closer to 1%.
That's only the case if the winning players insist of selling their valor instantly even though the price is low. A smart player (yeah, I know) would wait for others to lose, increasing the supply of silver, and bolstering the demand for valor. In the long run the price should return to 0.5 bits per valor, if not more, and so the house edge for the patient player should be no more than 0.5%. And when players lose money, there will be a glut of silver on the market (investors wanting to realize their profits) so the silver be worth more and the house edge will be closer to 0%.
Similarly smart investors will be unwilling to part with their silver too cheaply, understanding that demand for silver will pick up when it becomes rarer than valor. Smart traders I imagine will want to take advantage of this and "time arbitrage" the value of silver and valor to ~0.5 bits.
So it would be +EV to buy any silver or valor that is on sale below 0.4 bits, with a view to selling it at 0.5 bits later. That makes sense. My hope is it'll be a fun little ecosystem
Will there be an exchange built in to the game site?
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Update: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-03-03 1274.36 | 1 2017-03-03 8271.13 | 1 2017-03-03 1204.97 | 1 2017-03-03 1647.95 | 1 2017-03-03 148944.55 2 2017-03-02 1246.92 | 2 2017-03-02 8098.76 | 2 2017-03-02 1177.22 | 2 2017-03-02 1619.84 | 2 2017-03-02 145445.49 3 2017-03-01 1210.05 | 3 2017-02-28 7969.60 | 3 2017-03-01 1143.89 | 3 2017-03-01 1585.51 | 3 2017-03-01 140647.88 4 2017-02-28 1192.35 | 4 2017-03-01 7966.18 | 4 2017-02-28 1120.27 | 4 2017-02-28 1559.68 | 4 2017-02-28 137761.07 5 2017-02-27 1187.58 | 5 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 5 2017-02-27 1117.60 | 5 2017-02-27 1495.83 | 5 2017-02-24 135923.92 6 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 6 2017-02-27 7924.76 | 6 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 6 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 6 2017-02-27 135030.14 7 2017-02-26 1167.15 | 7 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 7 2017-02-26 1101.62 | 7 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 7 2017-01-05 134130.07 8 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 8 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 8 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 8 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 8 2017-02-26 133575.11 9 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 9 2017-02-26 7730.95 | 9 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 9 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 9 2017-02-25 132916.76 10 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 10 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 10 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 10 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 10 2017-02-23 132337.14 11 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 11 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 11 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 11 2017-02-26 1396.75 | 11 2017-01-04 131489.82 12 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 12 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 12 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 12 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 12 2017-02-22 129848.88 13 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 13 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 13 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 13 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 13 2017-02-21 126654.44 14 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 14 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 14 2017-02-18 999.75 | 14 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 14 2017-01-03 122707.19 15 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 15 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 15 2017-02-17 990.91 | 15 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 15 2013-11-30 122146.55 16 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 16 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 16 2017-02-19 989.48 | 16 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 16 2017-02-20 121947.53 17 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 17 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 17 2017-02-08 983.77 | 17 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 17 2017-01-02 121517.69 18 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 18 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 18 2017-01-03 978.51 | 18 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 18 2017-02-18 121413.79 19 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 19 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 19 2017-02-07 977.62 | 19 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 19 2017-02-19 121203.40 20 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 20 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 20 2017-02-16 974.94 | 20 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 20 2017-02-08 121106.15
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Hi dooglus, how POS diff works and means on clam wallet? For example, yesterday was 142.476 and today 133.441. What those values mean and change and how affect staking. Could you help me with to understand this technical question?
The difficulty is automatically adjusted in an attempt to keep the staking rate at one block per minute. Higher difficulty means it is harder to stake. The difficulty goes up and down in waves each day as it overreacts to short term fluctuations in the rate that blocks are found.
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their profits are divested in the form of valor, and they need to either trade or gamble to get silver to convert it to bits, to reinvest
So 1 silver combines with 1 valor to make 1 bit, causing the silver and valor to vanish? From gamblers point of view, the new setup is pretty great. You effectively will get a ~50% off the house edge, selling your silver to investors
That 50% number would depend on the market price of silver wouldn't it? Since valor is earned at a 1% rate (by definition), and silver is earned at a 0.5% rate (assuming an average 0.5% house edge) there will be roughly twice as much valor as silver in the world. That would lead to a glut of valor in the world, driving its price ever downwards. Maybe the average house edge is being increased to 1% so the supply or silver matches that of valor? Anyway it's an interesting concept.
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Update: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-03-02 1246.92 | 1 2017-03-02 8098.76 | 1 2017-03-02 1177.22 | 1 2017-03-02 1619.84 | 1 2017-03-02 145445.49 2 2017-03-01 1210.05 | 2 2017-02-28 7969.60 | 2 2017-03-01 1143.89 | 2 2017-03-01 1585.51 | 2 2017-03-01 140647.88 3 2017-02-28 1192.35 | 3 2017-03-01 7966.18 | 3 2017-02-28 1120.27 | 3 2017-02-28 1559.68 | 3 2017-02-28 137761.07 4 2017-02-27 1187.58 | 4 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 4 2017-02-27 1117.60 | 4 2017-02-27 1495.83 | 4 2017-02-24 135923.92 5 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 5 2017-02-27 7924.76 | 5 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 5 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 5 2017-02-27 135030.14 6 2017-02-26 1167.15 | 6 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 6 2017-02-26 1101.62 | 6 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 6 2017-01-05 134130.07 7 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 7 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 7 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 7 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 7 2017-02-26 133575.11 8 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 8 2017-02-26 7730.95 | 8 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 8 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 8 2017-02-25 132916.76 9 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 9 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 9 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 9 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 9 2017-02-23 132337.14 10 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 10 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 10 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 10 2017-02-26 1396.75 | 10 2017-01-04 131489.82 11 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 11 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 11 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 11 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 11 2017-02-22 129848.88 12 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 12 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 12 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 12 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 12 2017-02-21 126654.44 13 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 13 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 13 2017-02-18 999.75 | 13 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 13 2017-01-03 122707.19 14 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 14 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 14 2017-02-17 990.91 | 14 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 14 2013-11-30 122146.55 15 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 15 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 15 2017-02-19 989.48 | 15 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 15 2017-02-20 121947.53 16 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 16 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 16 2017-02-08 983.77 | 16 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 16 2017-01-02 121517.69 17 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 17 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 17 2017-01-03 978.51 | 17 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 17 2017-02-18 121413.79 18 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 18 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 18 2017-02-07 977.62 | 18 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 18 2017-02-19 121203.40 19 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 19 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 19 2017-02-16 974.94 | 19 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 19 2017-02-08 121106.15 20 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 20 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 20 2017-01-05 969.07 | 20 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 20 2017-02-17 120899.37
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Was very close to answer, I think it's obvious that if devs pump will also dump, it is what is wrong with cryptos nowadays but eventually they will get burned.
I don't see why "the devs" would be any more likely do this than anyone else. There's a market open to the public, so if you think you can profit by pumping the price up and dumping it back down again go ahead.
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Today Bitcoin has passed all old ATH and created new one and if everything is correct we will seen bigger then this price double in coming days
You think the price will double in the coming days? If you firm that up a bit (define "coming days", and double what exactly?) I'd be willing to bet that you're wrong. I am still waiting for Bitcoin to pass that unofficial (yet listed on MtGox at that time) ATH of $1242.
Here's the raw data of the MtGox prices around that time. The volume weighted price on the day of the $1242 high was $1163.49, so we already are ahead of that. (And I'm using BitStamp prices anyway): Update - surprisingly not a new 'jackpot': BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-03-01 1210.05 | 1 2017-02-28 7969.60 | 1 2017-03-01 1143.89 | 1 2017-03-01 1585.51 | 1 2017-03-01 140647.88 2 2017-02-28 1192.35 | 2 2017-03-01 7966.18 | 2 2017-02-28 1120.27 | 2 2017-02-28 1559.68 | 2 2017-02-28 137761.07 3 2017-02-27 1187.58 | 3 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 3 2017-02-27 1117.60 | 3 2017-02-27 1495.83 | 3 2017-02-24 135923.92 4 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 4 2017-02-27 7924.76 | 4 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 4 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 4 2017-02-27 135030.14 5 2017-02-26 1167.15 | 5 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 5 2017-02-26 1101.62 | 5 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 5 2017-01-05 134130.07 6 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 6 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 6 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 6 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 6 2017-02-26 133575.11 7 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 7 2017-02-26 7730.95 | 7 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 7 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 7 2017-02-25 132916.76 8 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 8 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 8 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 8 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 8 2017-02-23 132337.14 9 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 9 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 9 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 9 2017-02-26 1396.75 | 9 2017-01-04 131489.82 10 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 10 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 10 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 10 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 10 2017-02-22 129848.88 11 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 11 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 11 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 11 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 11 2017-02-21 126654.44 12 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 12 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 12 2017-02-18 999.75 | 12 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 12 2017-01-03 122707.19 13 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 13 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 13 2017-02-17 990.91 | 13 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 13 2013-11-30 122146.55 14 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 14 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 14 2017-02-19 989.48 | 14 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 14 2017-02-20 121947.53 15 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 15 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 15 2017-02-08 983.77 | 15 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 15 2017-01-02 121517.69 16 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 16 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 16 2017-01-03 978.51 | 16 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 16 2017-02-18 121413.79 17 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 17 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 17 2017-02-07 977.62 | 17 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 17 2017-02-19 121203.40 18 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 18 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 18 2017-02-16 974.94 | 18 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 18 2017-02-08 121106.15 19 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 19 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 19 2017-01-05 969.07 | 19 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 19 2017-02-17 120899.37 20 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 20 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 20 2017-01-02 967.42 | 20 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 20 2017-02-16 118865.98
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price always down, and now only 0.0007 sats, no pump from clam dev teams?
What are you hoping for? It sounds like you are hoping that the CLAM developers will buy a lot of CLAMs at above market price to push the price up so you can sell. Is that what you're asking for? Do you think that's reasonable?
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Update: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-02-28 1192.35 | 1 2017-02-28 7969.60 | 1 2017-02-28 1120.27 | 1 2017-02-28 1559.68 | 1 2017-02-28 137761.07 2 2017-02-27 1187.58 | 2 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 2 2017-02-27 1117.60 | 2 2017-02-27 1495.83 | 2 2017-02-24 135923.92 3 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 3 2017-02-27 7924.76 | 3 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 3 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 3 2017-02-27 135030.14 4 2017-02-26 1167.15 | 4 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 4 2017-02-26 1101.62 | 4 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 4 2017-01-05 134130.07 5 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 5 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 5 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 5 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 5 2017-02-26 133575.11 6 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 6 2017-02-26 7730.95 | 6 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 6 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 6 2017-02-25 132916.76 7 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 7 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 7 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 7 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 7 2017-02-23 132337.14 8 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 8 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 8 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 8 2017-02-26 1396.75 | 8 2017-01-04 131489.82 9 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 9 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 9 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 9 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 9 2017-02-22 129848.88 10 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 10 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 10 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 10 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 10 2017-02-21 126654.44 11 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 11 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 11 2017-02-18 999.75 | 11 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 11 2017-01-03 122707.19 12 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 12 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 12 2017-02-17 990.91 | 12 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 12 2013-11-30 122146.55 13 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 13 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 13 2017-02-19 989.48 | 13 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 13 2017-02-20 121947.53 14 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 14 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 14 2017-02-08 983.77 | 14 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 14 2017-01-02 121517.69 15 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 15 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 15 2017-01-03 978.51 | 15 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 15 2017-02-18 121413.79 16 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 16 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 16 2017-02-07 977.62 | 16 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 16 2017-02-19 121203.40 17 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 17 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 17 2017-02-16 974.94 | 17 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 17 2017-02-08 121106.15 18 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 18 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 18 2017-01-05 969.07 | 18 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 18 2017-02-17 120899.37 19 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 19 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 19 2017-01-02 967.42 | 19 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 19 2017-02-16 118865.98 20 2017-02-16 1029.04 | 20 2013-11-29 7156.07 | 20 2017-02-15 959.22 | 20 2017-02-16 1331.86 | 20 2017-02-07 118785.14
Edit: Jackpot!
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Update - 3 out of 5 ATHs again: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-02-27 1187.58 | 1 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 1 2017-02-27 1117.60 | 1 2017-02-27 1495.83 | 1 2017-02-24 135923.92 2 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 2 2017-02-27 7924.76 | 2 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 2 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 2 2017-02-27 135030.14 3 2017-02-26 1167.15 | 3 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 3 2017-02-26 1101.62 | 3 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 3 2017-01-05 134130.07 4 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 4 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 4 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 4 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 4 2017-02-26 133575.11 5 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 5 2017-02-26 7730.95 | 5 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 5 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 5 2017-02-25 132916.76 6 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 6 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 6 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 6 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 6 2017-02-23 132337.14 7 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 7 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 7 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 7 2017-02-26 1396.75 | 7 2017-01-04 131489.82 8 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 8 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 8 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 8 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 8 2017-02-22 129848.88 9 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 9 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 9 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 9 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 9 2017-02-21 126654.44 10 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 10 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 10 2017-02-18 999.75 | 10 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 10 2017-01-03 122707.19 11 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 11 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 11 2017-02-17 990.91 | 11 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 11 2013-11-30 122146.55 12 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 12 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 12 2017-02-19 989.48 | 12 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 12 2017-02-20 121947.53 13 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 13 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 13 2017-02-08 983.77 | 13 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 13 2017-01-02 121517.69 14 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 14 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 14 2017-01-03 978.51 | 14 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 14 2017-02-18 121413.79 15 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 15 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 15 2017-02-07 977.62 | 15 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 15 2017-02-19 121203.40 16 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 16 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 16 2017-02-16 974.94 | 16 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 16 2017-02-08 121106.15 17 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 17 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 17 2017-01-05 969.07 | 17 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 17 2017-02-17 120899.37 18 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 18 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 18 2017-01-02 967.42 | 18 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 18 2017-02-16 118865.98 19 2017-02-16 1029.04 | 19 2013-11-29 7156.07 | 19 2017-02-15 959.22 | 19 2017-02-16 1331.86 | 19 2017-02-07 118785.14 20 2017-02-04 1022.99 | 20 2017-02-04 7141.35 | 20 2017-02-14 953.93 | 20 2017-02-18 1326.10 | 20 2017-01-01 118615.24
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stick bootstrap-000.dat in the data dir
You will need to rename it to "bootstrap.dat". Other than that your plan sounds right.
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Update: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 1 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 1 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 1 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 1 2017-02-24 135923.92 2 2017-02-25 1158.37 | 2 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 2 2017-02-25 1094.56 | 2 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 2 2017-01-05 134130.07 3 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 3 2017-02-25 7771.73 | 3 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 3 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 3 2017-02-25 132916.76 4 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 4 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 4 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 4 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 4 2017-02-23 132337.14 5 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 5 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 5 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 5 2017-02-25 1431.30 | 5 2017-01-04 131489.82 6 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 6 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 6 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 6 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 6 2017-02-22 129848.88 7 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 7 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 7 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 7 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 7 2017-02-21 126654.44 8 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 8 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 8 2017-02-18 999.75 | 8 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 8 2017-01-03 122707.19 9 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 9 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 9 2017-02-17 990.91 | 9 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 9 2013-11-30 122146.55 10 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 10 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 10 2017-02-19 989.48 | 10 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 10 2017-02-20 121947.53 11 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 11 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 11 2017-02-08 983.77 | 11 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 11 2017-01-02 121517.69 12 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 12 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 12 2017-01-03 978.51 | 12 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 12 2017-02-18 121413.79 13 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 13 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 13 2017-02-07 977.62 | 13 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 13 2017-02-19 121203.40 14 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 14 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 14 2017-02-16 974.94 | 14 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 14 2017-02-08 121106.15 15 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 15 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 15 2017-01-05 969.07 | 15 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 15 2017-02-17 120899.37 16 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 16 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 16 2017-01-02 967.42 | 16 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 16 2017-02-16 118865.98 17 2017-02-16 1029.04 | 17 2013-11-29 7156.07 | 17 2017-02-15 959.22 | 17 2017-02-16 1331.86 | 17 2017-02-07 118785.14 18 2017-02-04 1022.99 | 18 2017-02-04 7141.35 | 18 2017-02-14 953.93 | 18 2017-02-18 1326.10 | 18 2017-01-01 118615.24 19 2017-02-06 1021.23 | 19 2017-02-19 7128.42 | 19 2017-02-06 953.52 | 19 2017-02-04 1323.57 | 19 2013-12-04 118215.64 20 2017-01-03 1020.56 | 20 2017-02-03 7108.19 | 20 2017-02-04 951.30 | 20 2017-02-14 1323.47 | 20 2016-12-29 117763.73
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I would have been happy if i had bought at the beginning of 2013 , when bitcoin was at 4$, instead of during the first ATH and downtrend... Why? The first ATH was less than $0.01. I would rather have bought then.
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Update: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-02-24 1174.77 | 1 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 1 2017-02-24 1113.01 | 1 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 1 2017-02-24 135923.92 2 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 2 2017-02-24 7885.10 | 2 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 2 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 2 2017-01-05 134130.07 3 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 3 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 3 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 3 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 3 2017-02-23 132337.14 4 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 4 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 4 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 4 2017-02-24 1445.98 | 4 2017-01-04 131489.82 5 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 5 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 5 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 5 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 5 2017-02-22 129848.88 6 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 6 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 6 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 6 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 6 2017-02-21 126654.44 7 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 7 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 7 2017-02-18 999.75 | 7 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 7 2017-01-03 122707.19 8 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 8 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 8 2017-02-17 990.91 | 8 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 8 2013-11-30 122146.55 9 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 9 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 9 2017-02-19 989.48 | 9 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 9 2017-02-20 121947.53 10 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 10 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 10 2017-02-08 983.77 | 10 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 10 2017-01-02 121517.69 11 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 11 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 11 2017-01-03 978.51 | 11 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 11 2017-02-18 121413.79 12 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 12 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 12 2017-02-07 977.62 | 12 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 12 2017-02-19 121203.40 13 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 13 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 13 2017-02-16 974.94 | 13 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 13 2017-02-08 121106.15 14 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 14 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 14 2017-01-05 969.07 | 14 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 14 2017-02-17 120899.37 15 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 15 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 15 2017-01-02 967.42 | 15 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 15 2017-02-16 118865.98 16 2017-02-16 1029.04 | 16 2013-11-29 7156.07 | 16 2017-02-15 959.22 | 16 2017-02-16 1331.86 | 16 2017-02-07 118785.14 17 2017-02-04 1022.99 | 17 2017-02-04 7141.35 | 17 2017-02-14 953.93 | 17 2017-02-18 1326.10 | 17 2017-01-01 118615.24 18 2017-02-06 1021.23 | 18 2017-02-19 7128.42 | 18 2017-02-06 953.52 | 18 2017-02-04 1323.57 | 18 2013-12-04 118215.64 19 2017-01-03 1020.56 | 19 2017-02-03 7108.19 | 19 2017-02-04 951.30 | 19 2017-02-14 1323.47 | 19 2016-12-29 117763.73 20 2017-02-05 1015.96 | 20 2017-02-09 7053.26 | 20 2017-02-11 949.68 | 20 2017-02-03 1319.54 | 20 2017-02-06 117584.67
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I'm always thinking about that guy celebrating Bitcoin by buying pizza .. I cannot imagine how bad he should feel right now, that was $10 MILLION. If the pizza shop still has that amount.... The owner should be on an island with everything he wants right now!
The 10k BTC pizza deal involved one bitcoiner paying another bitcoiner 10k BTC to buy him a couple of pizzas. No pizza shop accepted BTC back then.
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^clams is huge whales*dooglus knew satoshi!! :-D haaa
How did BAC recognize you so quickly?
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Rather than adding days separately, its good to add the year as a whole from the day when price surpass the ATH. This time the price is found to sustain for a longer period, because in 2013 the price fall took place in a short on which users were unable to make a move for a better profit.
Sorry but I don't know what you're trying to say. It sounds like you may be suggesting that averaging the price over a whole year rather than day by day would give speculators more time to cash out at a profit but that doesn't make sense to me. So that's probably not what you're saying.
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Update - 3 out of 5 currencies set new ATH average daily prices today: BitStamp USD/BTC OKCoin CNY/BTC Kraken EUR/BTC Kraken CAD/BTC CoinCheck JPY/BTC ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- ----------------------- 1 2017-02-23 1153.56 | 1 2017-01-04 7930.09 | 1 2017-02-23 1091.44 | 1 2017-02-23 1480.83 | 1 2017-01-05 134130.07 2 2013-11-30 1132.29 | 2 2017-02-23 7670.37 | 2 2017-02-22 1062.21 | 2 2017-02-22 1462.33 | 2 2017-02-23 132337.14 3 2017-02-22 1126.24 | 3 2017-01-05 7503.71 | 3 2017-01-04 1045.93 | 3 2017-01-04 1447.48 | 3 2017-01-04 131489.82 4 2013-12-04 1111.56 | 4 2017-02-22 7464.16 | 4 2017-02-21 1043.01 | 4 2017-02-21 1378.77 | 4 2017-02-22 129848.88 5 2017-02-21 1104.60 | 5 2013-11-30 7405.69 | 5 2017-02-20 1003.13 | 5 2017-01-03 1371.34 | 5 2017-02-21 126654.44 6 2017-01-04 1088.45 | 6 2017-01-03 7389.84 | 6 2017-02-18 999.75 | 6 2017-02-07 1362.32 | 6 2017-01-03 122707.19 7 2013-11-29 1065.36 | 7 2017-02-21 7376.07 | 7 2017-02-17 990.91 | 7 2017-02-08 1361.83 | 7 2013-11-30 122146.55 8 2017-02-20 1065.03 | 8 2017-02-08 7367.02 | 8 2017-02-19 989.48 | 8 2017-02-17 1360.19 | 8 2017-02-20 121947.53 9 2017-02-18 1060.53 | 9 2017-02-07 7347.40 | 9 2017-02-08 983.77 | 9 2017-02-19 1358.94 | 9 2017-01-02 121517.69 10 2017-02-19 1051.93 | 10 2017-01-02 7323.36 | 10 2017-01-03 978.51 | 10 2017-01-05 1356.48 | 10 2017-02-18 121413.79 11 2013-12-03 1050.57 | 11 2017-02-06 7245.30 | 11 2017-02-07 977.62 | 11 2017-01-02 1353.14 | 11 2017-02-19 121203.40 12 2017-02-17 1049.51 | 12 2017-02-05 7216.24 | 12 2017-02-16 974.94 | 12 2017-02-06 1347.02 | 12 2017-02-08 121106.15 13 2017-02-08 1045.63 | 13 2017-02-18 7184.08 | 13 2017-01-05 969.07 | 13 2017-02-05 1339.71 | 13 2017-02-17 120899.37 14 2017-02-07 1043.50 | 14 2017-02-20 7169.83 | 14 2017-01-02 967.42 | 14 2017-02-20 1334.78 | 14 2017-02-16 118865.98 15 2017-02-16 1029.04 | 15 2013-11-29 7156.07 | 15 2017-02-15 959.22 | 15 2017-02-16 1331.86 | 15 2017-02-07 118785.14 16 2017-02-04 1022.99 | 16 2017-02-04 7141.35 | 16 2017-02-14 953.93 | 16 2017-02-18 1326.10 | 16 2017-01-01 118615.24 17 2017-02-06 1021.23 | 17 2017-02-19 7128.42 | 17 2017-02-06 953.52 | 17 2017-02-04 1323.57 | 17 2013-12-04 118215.64 18 2017-01-03 1020.56 | 18 2017-02-03 7108.19 | 18 2017-02-04 951.30 | 18 2017-02-14 1323.47 | 18 2016-12-29 117763.73 19 2017-02-05 1015.96 | 19 2017-02-09 7053.26 | 19 2017-02-11 949.68 | 19 2017-02-03 1319.54 | 19 2017-02-06 117584.67 20 2017-01-02 1013.00 | 20 2017-01-01 7011.23 | 20 2017-02-12 946.24 | 20 2017-01-01 1319.10 | 20 2017-02-03 117574.98
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