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1141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long do you play per day gambling like Dice ? on: November 29, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
In general all gambling have the same difficulty level, so want to how much gambling sites we use then the result obtained is the same when we could use a science that is suitable for use do gambling. And the science is training the patience and are always looking for good data about the ongoing betting or already doing so.
All gambling games have equal risks : this statement is true upto a certain level because there are sports bettors who are winning like 1-2 bitcoins daily with sports betting, dont ask me how .. If I knew I wont be here talking. So what I mean to say is if those same people bet on dice then they can't even guarantee a 0.01 daily while with sports they are making 1-2 btc daily.
Exactly it's very difficult to make money in Dice game. You can put hope in sports betting no problem because if you lost your bet today next game you will win, But in Dice game, it's not like that we will get countinues red numbers. Very rarely you will get green numbers. So I will not play Dice game much time because I don't like to lose my money.
1142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 29, 2016, 10:47:09 AM
The match is Lyeons, Jaycer v Zlobinsky, Julian
The match starts at 28.11.2016 17:00

This event can be found here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/tennis-men/itf/usa/lyeons-jaycer-v-zlobinsky-julian/event/10645714?ref=tipster3

Tournament:ITF Men: USA F39, Singles Qualifying
Match:Lyeons, Jaycer v Zlobinsky, Julian
Betting option:Lyeons, Joyce
@ 1.60
Stake: 15mbtc
Return:24.00mBTC

The game started, the first set was a close fight. Finally, Zlobinsky won the set by 7-6. And now in the second set also the same competition is happening here. Also, Zlobinsky took the lead don't know who will win this set, and I think you have a chance to lose your bet I this match. Let's see who will this match. My guess is Zlobinsky will win this match.
It was good entertainment match yesterday, and both players played fantastically. Bad luck you lost your bet, 2nd set L Jaycer back to the game but in 3rd set Zlobinsky won easily with 6-4. It's ok in this match it is tough to guess who will win. Better luck next time. Congrats Zlobinsky.
1143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 29, 2016, 10:39:03 AM
India just need 16 runs to win the match with 9 wickets remaining,India folded England's second innings for 236 runs where the spinners took the 7 wickets that fell and Haseeb Hameed batted well and ran out of partners and this is his debut series and the his the future for England.Parthiv Patil is scoring the runs at over a run a ball and he has crossed his 50
India won the match by 8 wickets, and They took the 2-0 lead this series, Still 2 game left let's see England will come back in next games or not. Indian players did an excellent job in both bowling and batting side. I was not expected this match would end at 4th day. Ravindra Jadeja got man of the match award congrats.   
1144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 28, 2016, 04:55:35 PM
I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same.

The risk wise both are same, But in trading at least we can expect some profit, in the end, That too if we do trade with the right person, if we make trade with the wrong person then it's our fault. In gambling, it's not like that there is no expectation we have to accept what result we get at the end of the game it may be profit or loss 50 -50 chance.
1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many money did you spent in gambling in a day? on: November 28, 2016, 04:49:47 PM
Well, i play gambling mustily in a month, but not play it in everyday, the reason is because i have no enough amount especially for gambling playing, Otherwise i don't want to be addicted and it is my main reason. But i suggest should play it because it is pure way to gain fun. And whenever i start to play so i start the bet with sports betting and always use a less amount in the start, near about 0.001 or 0.0012 Btc.   

That's very good amount to spent in gambling when I was a starting gambler I used to bet that amount also and thinks that I won't gamble higher amount.

Because I don't want to make myself feel sorry when I lost a lot of bitcoins I cannot get over about it easily, it can make my day ruin.

So with that amount, it is affordable to lose and going to hurt our feelings if we lose.
If you play gambling just for fun, then this amount is good enough for you. But in sports betting I think this amount will not give more fun if you play 2x also you will get only 0.001 BTC profit, But winning 2x in sports betting is not easy. I will play skill games but not daily. My starting betting amount is 0.005 BTC.
1146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: November 28, 2016, 04:36:41 PM

A person who knows how to control his own emotion will make him feel crazy when he is losing a big money as he plays and that is going to be a big deal even he is a good in controlling himself. And if someone is not really helping himself to stay away from gambling and doesn't do anything then that will be also a factor that can make him a gambling slave.
True, it is also depend of a willingness of an addicted person if they really wanted to stay away in gambling, because for me once you don't have willingness your plan to stay away will always be useless. We also need the help of the advice of other people so that we can hear their sides on how to really stop playing gambling.

I agree with this.. unless we do something for our self, then that is the time we can change our lives. Change is huge, change is complex, change is beautiful, change is hard .... but change is vital. If we want to change our lives and be out of addiction, then we need to something changed.
CHANGED is always there for us, because nothing is permanent in every people out there, people are always changing because they grow and they learn so I think if addicted person learned how to control themselves they can changed their lives.

I think it depends on the level of addiction and how committed the person to change.  There are lots of circumstances that people never knew that they are addicted until someone told them they are, and obviously they are into denial.  If the person can admit that he is a gambling addict, that is the first step. Depending on how hook the person is, there is a possibility that he needs treatment. So a support from family is always the best thing especially when the person is just starting to cure his gambling addiction.
How no treatment will work for Drug addicts like that for gambling also no treatment is there, the only solution is self-control. If you have the capability to divert your mind when you feel to gamble, then it is possible. And yes your friends and doctors just give advice, but your family members help must require they only control you because they love you.
1147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: November 28, 2016, 04:23:02 PM
Gambling cannot be quit immediately. Like any other problem in life (as in this thread we are referring to it as a problem) to be solved needs time.

However I have seen a lot of successful people who have left behind gambling for good.

Here is what they did. At first they cut a part from their monthly earnings to play gambling. They put a schedule like 5 USD max per day to be played or 150 USD during the whole month. Once used to this, they saw that they were not as addicted as they thought. So after 2-3 months the monthly bankroll goes to 75 USD and after 1 year is only 5 USD per month just to feel the emotions but not really gambling to win.

I think this is the best way to quit gambling for your loved ones.

The process looks good, but I am not sure how many gamblers will follow this method. Why because if any addicted person they can not control their emotions in gambling. Once they started gambling, they will not stop until their wallet become empty. So my opinion, if you want to stop, control your feelings and try to avoid the internet at least 1 or 2 weeks then it may be possible. Becasue if you use online then automatically you will open online casino websites.
1148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In what gambling games are you good at? on: November 28, 2016, 04:12:17 PM
I'm not good at any gambling game because it's all about what luck you have at the moment. You only need to know when to press what, it's not that complicated... I wish there were ways to play better but there are none of them, unfortunately.
The casino games not required any skills, what you said it's right, in slot games you just know when and what button you need to press, this is completely depends on luck. But if you are not lucky in casino games you can try in skill games. These games have less house edge profit, and your knowledge will help you to make a profit in skill games.
1149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: November 28, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
Yes. Most of the people who gamble are minors. As they need money to buy things and they can't get from their parents. They use gambling for them to have a lot of money and buy things. That's bad for the gambling because minors manage to gamble even if they don't have a money of their own. They can use their parent's money just to gamble.

I dont think the minor gamble to get what they want. They usually gamble due to peer pressure cause they want to join in the fun with their friends. They treat it as a form of entertainment while hanging out with their friends.
They don't really get what they want minor always think that gambling is really fun and they making it cool if they are going to play. They don't know the real risk everytime they playing it loosing money getting addicted asking money just to play gambling is a sin , even they purpose is just to hang with friends or just to entertain other players.
No i think they play gambling to earn pocket money, kids play gambling with their parent's money, so they don't like to spoil that money just for fun and entertainment. They will play to double their investment. But yes they don't know how risk is this gambling. And if they don't have money they will lend money from friends and they play gambling this is really bad for kids.
1150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 28, 2016, 03:36:08 PM
unfortunately yes it does true that people expectation is too high to every manchester united coaches and bad mistakes for mourinho this season is he has spend too much money to buy unsuitable players and actually i don't know what happened to this team because currently they already have the players with good talented but my question is why those players still playing bad


They need more motivation to win the game and they did have the motivation in the europa league just that I dont really understand why they cant score against west ham. Moreover if they didnt slack off at the start of the game they wouldn't be conceded just few minutes after the game started

I think the man United players was disturbed when west ham player scored the first goal in the 2nd minute of the game. So they took some time to come out from that shock. But I have expected at least 1 goal from Man United in the second half, and This is the completely unbelievable result we had yesterday. Well done West Ham you deserve this Draw match.
1151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 28, 2016, 03:27:50 PM
India is in control in the fourth day ,they just need 6 wickets to fold the English batsmen and if they could that by the first session india could very well win this match without much sweat,England at the moment trail by 56 runs,Indian tail enders batted superbly and scored a good total of 417 runs with the help of ashwin jadeja and Yadav
Yes, it was an incredible performance from Ashwin, Jadeja and Jadav, But bad luck Jadeja missed his century. I have expected 350+ runs, but India scored 417 runs, England batsman again suffering in the second innings. They are struggling to face Indian spin bowlers. Ashwin deserves his caption number one all-rounder. He picks 3 wickets in 2nd innings. India has clear chance to win this match.
1152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 27, 2016, 06:11:26 PM
I have just lost  0.1 Bitcoin due to the most stupid mistake i have ever had in my entire life. I deposited 0.1 to play hi-lo, instead of play with 0.001 bitcoin, I forgot to type two more "0". Boom. All of my money disappeared. It took me 5 minutes to realize what just happened. I am crying here Sad my life is suck Sad
You just lost 0.1 BTC, and I know this is the big amount, and it feels sad but your life not sucked, you will earn this money in your next bets. It's just a lesson for your laziness. This type of mistakes happened in gamblers life no worry. I am also lost around 0.05 BTC in single Test Cricket match, I feel like cry, but I controlled my emotions. 
1153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 27, 2016, 05:48:39 PM
Cilic vs Del Potro for Devis Cup is going to be kicked off in couple of hours. After loosing yesterday this is time for gaining back by having on Del Petro @1.48 mainline. He is continuously on fire and was winner against Cilic whenever they competed. my pick is Del Potro in this meet up again. Cilic will not change the facts at least not today.
Tough to predict this match both players are strong in this competition, and the odds also changed now Cilic @2.06 and Del Potro @ 1.76. Don't know to whom I have to pick. If we compare the last match, Potro is best, but Cilic also played superbly in the last game. I am confused, let's go for a live bet and I think over 22.5 games is a good choice.
1154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: November 27, 2016, 05:39:58 PM
Well, I don't normally play any game with a house edge and I try not to get my money in on a bet with a negative expected value.  There are times when I will take a little more risk than I take otherwise....when I think that I can take advantage of the conditions of a game, such as when I have the big stack in a poker tournament, I might bully the other players out a little more than usual.  But, I don't like taking big risks....and....I always do the math before committing my cash!

I also dont gamble with negative expected value as it will may that i will end up losing insead of winning. So it is choosing the right game and most of the games i dont play cause the house edge really put us at a disadvantage.
All casino games are a good advantage to house edge, So if you want to play less house edge advantage games then play sports betting. Here your result depends on your knowledge and skills. It's 50-50 chance for both players and house. My strategy is I will pick only selected games and if I am sure about the game or player I will put my bet or else I just stay back with that match.
1155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell us How You bet On Dice on: November 27, 2016, 05:29:25 PM
I tried to play at dice game but i don't really lucky to play this kind of gambling if i bet high i lose if i bet low i win i think there are kind of tricky in dice bet im good at mine sweeper or im just lucky enough to earn profits from there making my small amount to odds of 10x.
Size of bets doesnt matter on your winning percentage on doing gambling because it does really matter on the house itself and the settings of multiplier. If you do lose  huge amounts at the first place on doing gambling and you seem you are not lucky enough then better to stop right away because there will be more further lose when you continue to play again. 10x multiplier will surely give you small chance of winning and experience long lossing streaks.
In Dice game there is no particular strategy to play, You can try from 10x to 100x no problem, I think the amount of betting is matter, Because the winning chances are less in Dice game, so my suggestion play 50x+ more multiple with the small amount this may give decent profit. My max level is 50x and my loss level also high. I made profit very less time.
1156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 27, 2016, 05:19:31 PM
well score in the match Manchester United vs West Ham United are still 1-0 with West Ham United are still pressing. Well, I've bet for Manchester United on the eve of this match, I hope Manchester United will not disappoint me. let the red devils, beat West Ham United, although with a score under 2.5 goals
Man United back to the game in 21st min Ibrahimovic scored 1 goal now Both teams are level 1-1. The match is running very aggressively. Well, start from West Ham, great goal from Sakho in the second minute of the match. I think in this match we may get some more goals in second half, so over 2.5 goals is the better choice. Let's see Man United will win this game or not.
1157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 27, 2016, 05:10:41 PM
It could be total crash as Indian batting lineup just lurked at around 150 runs. I don't have idea what to say it is India which is lucky to successfully avoid that collapse or England again remained unlucky for missing that opportunity. India will not repeat that mistake anymore. In coming innings match will bring real twist and interest for sure.

Ashwin has rescued the Indian batting and ensured that they will get a lead. In spite of bowling England out for an under-par score, India are not in a winning position. It will be crucial to see how many runs Ashwin and Jadeja are able to put together tomorrow.
Ashwin is turning out to be a real good all rounder.
Ashwin is the number one all-rounder in Test cricket. He is an excellent spinner, but nowadays he becomes strong batsman in the middle order. His position is 7th or 8th, but he promoted to 5th place. I am expecting one more century from Ashwin tomorrow. How long Jadeja will give support to Ashwin till that score will come. But yes we can not say now who will win this match.
1158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: November 24, 2016, 05:10:27 AM
If you have a gambling problem, don't log into this forum. This is pointless
If you have problem with your gambling then you must quit gambling, NOT this forum. If you really look for a solution you may share your problem here and this community will always help you to find out the root cause of it.

Sharing your problem will help other gamblers to avoid similar situations. In general, gambling problems are most common and its root cause must be addictions.

And if he will just let his problem to stay in himself and won't allow to get some help from others then that his problem will not ever be solve. Because if he has a gambling problem and he can't even solve it. And who do you think is/are the one/s that will help you for that? That's way there is a community and forum like this, in able to help any types of problem of the people.
Right, that's why a group of professional have a business to help out those who are severely addicted with gambling. It's not simple problem anymore where we can handle ourselves but a disease as it is very serious and needs a serious kind of treatment.


When it comes to the point you are addicted to something drugs, alcohol, gambling the only way to stay clean form those activities is by looking for professional help, the family still needs to be part of the healing process but professional help is needed.

The family is much needed on this type of situation and for me they are the one who will give big help to that addicted gambler. Because if you will hire some professionals that will counsel you, I can say that is still not guaranteed and I'm sick of it that you'll pay them very high in exchange of simple words that can be suggested by your loved ones for free.

Yup, the family members, help, is much needed. And only professionals and doctors suggestions will not assist them to stop gambling. They require more dedication, and they must strictly follow the tips. And one more thing they must stay away from the digital world for few weeks then only it is possible.
1159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 23, 2016, 03:12:42 PM
More than 3 years I was gambling, for get profitable maybe not, but I also not loss too more. For me, gambling just for fun only, because when I gambling can stop for stess. So, please don't think that gambling make prifitable especially for long term.
Pretty simple explanation, that's why you do not lose more because you treat gambling for fun. In gambling, there's a risk but we have to take it because it's the nature of the game, the more we want money in return, the more money we should put as our bankroll.

Now, the question is can it be profitable Of course, because it's not impossible but only limited for the choose ones.
even maybe an expert in gambling will say the same thing as him.

to suggest everybody to not treat gambling as a way to make profit. indeed maybe for some people who have addicted already making gamble for fun purpose are so hard , they forgot how to have fun in gambling.
Because of the possibility that they keep chasing their loses and trying it hard to regain it but while doing it they just simply gothing burned still from time to time so i guess enjoying is no longer present inside their minds. Playing smarter is the key to make it profitable just always stay focus so even its taking some long time you are still in control and you have some time to possibly predict what will be the next outcome of the game.
So how would your treat your gambling activities when you are already losing although you can control your loses? I think, under the situation you have no chance to  make money in gambling and that should be accepted early to avoid aggravating the loses.

When you accepted your destiny already that you are not good in making money, it would be easy to enjoy in gambling.

It is in our own decision if we want to control our losses it is yup for us to decide if you want to really stop it for now or keep on playing, but if a gambler are already caught in the gambling addiction problem it is still up to him if he really want to change his addiction cause rehabilitation need to be voluntarily because if it is not then you are wasting time cause an addicted person is still enjoying the fun part in gambling.

I think the addicted person will not enjoy the game in gambling. Those people main intention in gambling is to make money. Those who loves money i believe that they will not look for the fun part. They only concentrate on winning money. And especially those who are looking for easy money they will addict this gambling very quickly. This kind of people if they play long term gambling they may lose all money.
1160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There is no life in Gambling can you accept this....?? on: November 23, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
HI every one i loss everything in this gambling. Now i am empty hand and now i am realize there is no life in Gambling. Like this any body thinking please share here.
That's the nature of gambling bro. To get you high and pull you down HARD!! Well gambling is a game based on luck and experience, you just don't bet and hope to win, you have to think as well as feel what's going on. If you feel you're on the loosing streak, stop. It is not a good thing to go after a big prize so quickly. It is better to start focus on something that you can earn without losing all of it. Everything that you've lost, if you have just invested it, maybe its now growing. You bet big, you win big. You bet big, you lose big that is gambling, they look like close to winning but its best friend is losing. Learn from your mistakes  Smiley

It's purely based on luck, experience is not that much important specially if you are betting against the house, experience only matter if youare playing against other player. But anyway, that's gambling, we have nothing to do about it, we are not forced to play by the gambling site, we are the one who wants to feed our desire, so its our own fault, in the end, the only solution to it is don't gamble if you don't want to lose money. 
we can not really remove the reality that most gamblers really lose from time to time only few of them can make good profits simply because house has been build to take advantage with the greediness that has been built in inside our minds so for sure win or lose we will tend to give it a try hoping that we can win again if we are lucky before or regain our loses when we lose the first try and continuously it will build addiction that turned to wrecking our life because we are out of control.
Though we have experience loses in gambling but it's till not good to call it that there's no life in gambling. The thing is, we have to treat gambling as an entertainment and should not be part of our daily life, regardless what will happen in gambling it's just right not to be affected.
Yup people are taking gambling one type of habit . First we should remove it in our mind. And realise that gambling is just a game and it made only for entertainment and fun purpose not to make money. If we realise this thing, then no one will addict his gambling. And suppose you play gambling still your life will be happy.   
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