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1181  Economy / Services / Re: [Looking] For a VCC provider with balance on: October 19, 2017, 03:50:38 AM
You yourself can get a VCC by loading your BTC. Check https://coinsbank.com, a trusted services previously known as bit-x, had campaigns here for years.

there many vvc provide all depend on where you need to sue ..but i am using this company for long time  http://entropay.com/ you can use they are good
But I guess entropay accepts only debit or credit cards whereas OP is available with only PP or BTC.
1182  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we totally eliminate all the banks in this world? on: October 18, 2017, 06:13:34 PM
Jesus...  Of course we can, and quickly.  

Consider the VC industry : it got rekt by ICO's in a matter of months.  Numbers talked, money talked.  It's over for the big guys.

Who the hell in their right mind would consider giving away 40% equity in their startup to some fat lazy shark like Mark Cuban in exchange for a grotesque 100k investment in their company when they can raise that money through an ICO in a matter of hours without any paperwork while keeping 100% equity ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/initial-coin-offerings-on-the-blockchain-are-disrupting-venture-capital


We're about to witness a tsunami of massive disruptions in the financial system, banks will be the first victims : even if they survive, they will be disrupted beyond recognition in a matter of years.

Another financial crisis like the one we saw in 2008 and you kiss the banks goodbye and say hello to a $500k Bitcoin global gold standard.
I so much love your optimism and honestly looking at it from your point of view, then we can really kiss banks goodbye. However, it cannot be that easy as it sounds, not without a fight. However, there are so many people who would still be struck with the normal traditional currency which makes bank still very much needed.

It might be easy in some places, but the world, you should understand some third world countries really find it hard to even have access to the internet. One thing I am sure though is that adaptability to technology can get the banks out but not very soon.
1183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin goes up so high? on: October 16, 2017, 04:14:38 PM
I think bitcoin value goes up because of increasing demand in bitcoin, there are many people who are now starting to adopt the digital currency, they got interested in earning bitcoin and since many are investing in bitcoin the supply must provide for it that is why they adjust the value so that they can sustain the increasing demand.
You are right! However, if this truly happens, then everyone will be held responsible cause we are the market and whatever will make bitcoin crash is in our hands. The possibility of everyone dumping their coins though is extremely small and wont amount to anything. A lot of government and developing countries are beginning to see how well it can help them improve their economy and this is just a start.
1184  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How erning over 100000 satoshi/wekly on: October 16, 2017, 12:48:28 PM
First I apologize to moderators and administrators I do not know where to put this topic, if it does not fit here please move it to the right place, Thanks!

Everyone interested in earning 100,000 per week a week and more please contact me with a private message so I can send you directions. Do not ask me to publicize it because first you need to become my referral and then I'll send you the instructions. All obstacles and difficulties will be resolved with each one specially.
It  seems that your question is not suite to your position, your concerns is mostly came from newbie member in this forum. But still I will answer you, having 100k satoshi is possible if you do trade in the platform or you play dice games.
Even if he is going to be playing dice games and earning 100k satoshi a week, he will still need to have to put in some little funds and play on lows not to get burnt quickly and that is if he doesn’t burnt eventually.
The best way is just for him to find a service he can render on the forum or probably just grow his account until he can reasonably earn something tangible.
1185  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: October 16, 2017, 12:03:19 PM
I think if you want businesses in your country accept BTC I think at first Bitcoin need to be legalized in your country. After Bitcoin legalized it'll become a hot trend soon then every business in your country will accept BTC and you don't have to anything to do that Smiley). But to legalize Bitcoin in any country is very difficult cause Bitcoin also has some disadvantages that why it's not legalized worldwide
You are correct! It is not as if without legalizing it, there won't still be some making use of it anyway, but they will be scanty and more like a drop of paint in the middle of an ocean. However, the government declaring their stand on the usage of bitcoin and having no problem with it will generate huge awareness for the cryptocurrency and will cause mass adoption in such country. However, no government want to thread on that part yet.
1186  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Accepting bitcoin for service on: October 16, 2017, 11:00:31 AM
Just increase your rank if you be full member you can join to all serivce at service forum and earn more than 50$ weekly easy
I believe anyone can accept Bitcoin for services offered even outside the forum.
It’s not a must you will have to join the forum services section before you can start offering services and getting paid.
You can create your own website, offer services and get paid in Bitcoin. But don’t accept only Bitcoin, make it easy for your clients to pay with their favorite payment method.
1187  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHAT IS THE BEST AND SECURE TRADING SITE IN BITCOIN? on: October 16, 2017, 06:03:45 AM
I don't think there's any right or wrong answer, they all carry the same risks keeping large amounts of crypto online.

I've had no problems with Poloniex but they could be hacked any time the same as any other exchange. I don't expect them to be hacked but its the risk they all share.

You can trade on Coinbase even, in and out of Bitcoin or trade privately....buy 1 BTC, add some markup and offer to sell it in bits privately throgh local bitcoins.
Mate! If you really want to hear the truth, some exchanges are wrong answers Grin and you would not want to even leave your funds in them at the slightest chance of seeing them and seeing what some users are passing through.

What really surprises me is why people make use of them anyway knowing how shitty they are. Different sizes for different folks anyway.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: October 15, 2017, 06:14:00 PM
Stop when there is no future or tomorrow.. But If you have even if a tiny bit of chance or possibility.. Better go forward and not to stop 😊

There's no way to know if you've got a future or tomorrow in gambling it's still a guess for everyone that's into gambling. The momentum when you gamble is happening and if you think that you are in that stage yes go for the goal but don't always go forward as sometimes you need to go backwards for you to be able to get some time to buy and relax. Stop when you are tired and when you've got a lot of loss.
I agree with you.Better stop gambling when you have loss a lot.Do not wait for tomorrow that you'll be able to sell your property just to gamble.That's why before gambling,we should set first our limitations.But if we can't control our deep interest with it,better stop gambling now.

As there are some gamblers that never stops when they loss a lot and they want to recover their losses so it's not recommended to keep on gambling when you loss a lot. Taking up a rest and stop when you loss a lot is the wisest thing to do because you can minimize your losses or you can set an amount when you loss some. It will be your key to reduce your losses because others don't know how to control their losses.
As a player or a gambling sites it is hard to stop this especially when you become addicted to this kind of game. Because every time you have bitcoin or money all are you thinking is to recover the amount you lost in gambling but I think it is wrong perception. Since you always a gambling, you always have a chance lost. Not only money or else, maybe even your family or anyone you have for now. So I guest the best thing we can do for now is to quit gambling.
Gambling sites have actually made it easy for gamblers to gamble. They only need internet connection, a device and a little amount in their accounts. Coin any gambling site for free and play it any time, whether it's day or night. At least, when there were just land based casinos, people took sometime before getting addict to gambling because they had to take time for it and walk to the place.

Now people play games even when they are doing their office work. Due to technology, things have really become easy to do.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: October 15, 2017, 10:47:54 AM
Trading obviously will not have an adverse effect on life as it does with gambling that if we feel addicted, it's likely to have a devastating impact on everyday life I guess. Beside that Trading is a business and not a guessing or should depend on luck. And indeed Trading in my opinion is better than must doing a gamble that is more inclined to the ugliness seen by peoples in general.
If someone dreams about living a rich person's life, he must go for trading. It only needs one skill and that is communication skill.

A trader must be able to convince people for either buying his product or let him buy other's product. Other than this, he must have some patience. Gambling is just a game, it can give us some entertainment but obviously, we cannot earn money from it.
1190  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin successfully defeated China on: October 14, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Its not about Bitcoin V's China, its about China being able to embrace Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in a way that their citizens dont get ripped off in a systematic way. There were a dozen ICO's a day goin on in China, and half of them were pure scam jobs, that was very bad for crypto in the long and short term. I think that there will be some form of oversight in China announced after their party conference at the end of this month and business as usual will resume (minus all the scams).
Honestly, sometimes we always end up blaming the wrong people and just like you have said, which I totally agree with, China was just trying to do her citizen a favor and some gullible people who don’t take time to research more on ICOs before investing.

This would have had a bad or probably a negative influence most especially on ICOs eventually and wont have been good. The step will only help to sieve out the good ones from the bad ones at the long run. China still understands the gap bitcoin is going to fill and they would not want to miss out on that at all.
1191  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Restaurants accepting bitcoin! on: October 14, 2017, 05:48:34 PM
I think this situation goes two ways.

1) Bitcoin being accepted in restaurants will help the latter attract more customers because of its payment flexibility which can process all money transactions with the use of smartphones. I believe this a very wise way of enticing customers especially with the likes of tech savvy or what they refer to as the millenials.

2) In a way, it also adds to the popularity of Bitcoins!
It will most definitely attract more customers most especially bitcoin enthusiasts in a country where bitcoin is getting much adopted already. Even if it was never a very common restaurant, news travel very fast and most of the bitcoin fans will often want to pay visit to see how their bitcoin can actually be of more use in the real life.

That won't stop there, generating more interest via the bitcoin payment will gear interest as well for the restaurant even from those who would want to know more about bitcoin or has been hearing news about it.
1192  Economy / Exchanges / Re: I want to invest $200K to set up an exchange and I need your help on: October 13, 2017, 08:06:51 PM
Oh great, another "Newbie" claiming to have $200k to start an exchange. I will give you a tip - people in the cryptoworld don't trust newbies. Either back your claims with proof or be prepared to be trolled.
Lol I was about saying the same thing, and someone already said so. You want to know why people are into Poloniex ? That’s simple– it’s just because Poloniex is an old exchange and has been there for a long time offering reliable services. So if you think the people will leave a trusted site for a new site, you are just wasting time.
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker v Other casino games online on: October 13, 2017, 08:28:34 AM
Kids play slots, men play dice games and legends play poker. Poker is not an easy fun. It demands some effort and work whereas all the other casino games are just about luck. The player has zero control in the game and nobody can have the desired results by any strategy. Poker has strategies to win. It is not easy to bluff and then to catch that bluff.
What a way to categorize each and every one based on the game they play. I agree with you that poker is a game for strong men based on those who I have seen play it.
I have never seen it as a game for someone like me anyway, so one of the reasons why I never bothered learning. However, i feel it is still partly luck even if you have the ability to easily catch bluffs.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: October 13, 2017, 06:57:47 AM
better avoid things that too good to be true like making money through gambling.

Some people avoid it but some people will keep playing because they are making money. I dont think that it is suitable for everyone because whenever I try to make money from gambling, I always lose everything that I bring. Some people have some good luck and managed to win some money although in the end he will most likely lose everything again

Lol I do not think gambling is like too good to be true.  Gambling never promised us a sure win nor sure profit.  It only gives us a chance of winning.  Unlike any HYIP and Ponzi scheme that promise its investors a lot of thing that makes it look like too good to be true.  Though i always believe that investing in legit projects and venturs is better than gambling, investing in HYIPS and Ponzi's is way worse than gambling itself.  In gambling you have a chance but with those fraud company, you already lost your money once you invest in them.

Gambling promises profit, that's the main attraction. But the promise was just a bait. If in fishing, gambling is an angler, profit is a bait, and we are the fish. If we have been hit by the bait will be difficult to escape, at least our efforts must be large and luck to be able to damage the rod and escape.
I so much agree with you and I have noticed that if you are new to the system, there is always a better chance of you winning very good for a start.

I haven't seen anyone who came in immediately and quickly got burnt instantly. Then gradually they get enticed and before you know it, they are already deep and then they try their hands on bigger amount and that is where it all starts Grin or probably the streaks of losses just keeps coming more the older they get in the system.
1195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't worry volatility is good for Bitcoin- + let's work together on: October 12, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
Wow! Quite an epistle!! That could have been summarized. At this stage, volatility is definitely inevitable for bitcoin's development as we see more people craving for the value and more people HODLingbelieveing it is not the right value yet for them to dispose it. As long as we keep having demand for it and it keeps being valuable then, the volatility is normal and good opportunity for daytraders as well as HODLers too,
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Going Above 6k Soon!!!!! on: October 12, 2017, 02:49:27 PM
I think bitcoin could be hit above only $5k until the fork end. . like the other said its too early to determine that the price can be touch at  $6k value since the price still not hit in $5k value.. The price was increased these days but hoping that we can see more movement these following days. If bitcoin break $5k value expect that after fork the price was hit $6k value above..

I agree. With the upcoming hard fork this November, the price will go down. After that, it may be possible for the price to hit $6000 once it breaks above the $5000 boundary. I'll be expecting there to be a huge price increase after the fork this November, especially since Christmas season will be fast approaching. It's going to be hard to tell what the price will be by the end of the year but I expect it to be near that number or probably even higher. We are sometimes wrong because we are only speculating and the turn out is even higher than we thought it would be.
Well, how the November fork will turn out is unpredictable at the moment. But the upcoming one this October will even cause more push up in value for bitcoin. I will be dumping my BCG for BTC as fast as possible anyway once the coast gets cleared and I am pretty sure everyone have the same thing in mind. Apparently, we what we have at this stage, the price will shoot up even higher after the first fork like we had in August.
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy the dip on: October 12, 2017, 12:57:40 PM
A year ago was $700/BTC.
Do you understand the great painting?

One year ago nobody was giving $1000 but now they suddenly get bored and give $5000?  Cheesy
It is a great painting indeed. Mass adoption is what we will call it. Most people ended up realizing that bitcoin aren't the usual fiat and not a joking matter and decided to look more into it until they realized it is a value worth investing in at this stage and at any price they can get it now. Some of us met it when the value was not much and so many people in the future will even consider today's value as extremely cheap and wish they had gotten in earlier.
1198  Economy / Economics / Re: DON'T DO PANIC SELLING !!! on: October 12, 2017, 11:41:54 AM
It went up because of the upcoming fork and down due to russian News  Roll Eyes
So true, no Need to panic; get yourself some cheap alts!
Sure, the upcoming fork is really making a whole lot of people to dump their alts so as to benefit from the upcoming fork. However, I still have the feelings the market was manipulated as the alts are gradually being pumped back and obviously those who panic sold their alts for losses must be biting their fingers now.

Also, I do not really see the Russian news having any effect on the price. It is presently still at $4800 and normally, for every bull run, there will always be a point where it relaxes a bit.
1199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: October 11, 2017, 06:24:26 PM
I am thinking .. to put all my money in bitcoin what do you think? is it a good way to grow my money? or it is risky or.. ?
At the time you post this topic if you have put all your money into bitcoin then now you have become rich  Grin Grin Grin Grin
Where is he now anyway ? To come tell us the decision he made back then. Grin The thing is just that we cannot predict the future cause if there is a possibility of that, most of us won't even make the decisions we have made in the past. So at that, it is just much better to take risks that won't end up screwing us up at the end if tables didn't end up turning to our side for good.
1200  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Time management. on: October 11, 2017, 02:03:21 PM
Sometimes its really hard to manage time for bitcoins. I can sit and spend hours on reading about bitcoin here and on other places, gamble on second window, check prices of bitcoin and several altcoins. I count that as a free time when I can sit in my chair, make coffee and enjoy for some time without
anyone or anything to bother me. How I manage time is hard to explain, sometimes its easy and simple, but there are days when I barely find one free hour in all day. Many of us here work, families or just girlfriends and friends, finding time for all that some days can be very tricky, sometimes I need tell to myself that I need to sleep more, and rest more, but where to find time for that.
I really do feel your point mate and I have been in this position several times. Not because I cannot manage my time but just because there is just so much to do in a day until I find out that I am overworking myself than normal just to get the best out of every day.

Then one day, I realized that if anything happens to me based on the fact of overworking myself which can totally affect me health wise due to the increase in cortisol level which most of my work has to do with me using my brain, then who will spend the money I am even making.

All these made me to have the decision to cut some of the things I do, know my limit and work towards that.
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