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1181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: June 19, 2018, 08:00:24 AM
I've been a little lost lately and in the end I do not know what they're going to buy for mining, nor reviewing the previous posts I see it clear Undecided

According to their Telegram message June 15th, they are buying 500 Antminer S9 units, which model not specified.


Did they already place an order to buy miners then ?


They decided yesterday that ordering 500 S9's is the path to LIFETIME PROFIT.
1182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: June 19, 2018, 07:44:03 AM
Fixed it for ya.

He was right first time unfortunately; the money has changed hands.
Anyone fancy hiking thru Kazakhstan to get a refund?


nah. nobody would have been *that* stupid. even Dias.  Huh

I was referring to the current ownership of the ICO money.
That is now in IR possession, having been swapped by investors for promises.
Re S11's, I was surprised to see them as an option on the "Which miners shall we buy? Poll" as, until Bitmain release specs, prices and delivery schedule they should be regarded as vaporware for all practical purposes.
1183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 08:24:32 PM
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one guy who blinks too much and another who doesn’t at all

Exactly.
1184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: June 18, 2018, 07:50:28 PM
Fixed it for ya.

He was right first time unfortunately; the money has changed hands.
Anyone fancy hiking thru Kazakhstan to get a refund?
1185  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitconeeeeeext - next Bitconnect (Scam Warning) on: June 18, 2018, 07:47:16 PM
Don't fret guys, you want to argue with/chase scammers?
There's more than enough others to go round still out there.
1186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 07:43:14 PM

But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience Huh

You should never be disappointed by skepticism my friend, but beware complacency and assumption at all times.
Our experience of arbitrage schemes in Bitcoin?
The perfect 10/10, I think. Scams, that is.

Anyway, yeah quite a few words from some of us, back to basics.

from the other thread

please let us know the UK company name of your employer.

Yeah, like who are Arbitao?
A supposedly London based 'entity', asking for $$zillions$$, which has no company registration, no address, no legal existence in any shape or form that they can/will provide. Even in ICOland, that's ridiculous.
1187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 05:16:46 PM
Can you introduce this team member to potential investors donors:



The guy who blinks too often.

You mean the guy from Fiverr?

I'm sure he came round my place with some pizzas last week, he does Deliveroo between acting gigs.
I think the blinking is down to those stage glasses they made him wear to give him gravitas, or he may have picked up an eye infection from the dirty London air riding his delivery scooter.
Hth.




I hope this project will be advance and can be arrived the hard cap of ICO.  Good luck devs!

Hey, put some effort into your shit posting. I especially like it when you use phrases like

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Sentient website, engaging approach!

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Impeccable idea, rational approach

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A rather interesting activity, irreproachable website, believable project!

My fav so far

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Arguable plan, very nice design, spotless activity.

reported.
1188  Other / Meta / Re: let's cut the bullshit on: June 18, 2018, 11:33:10 AM
Most of the high ranks here are hypocrites as well, preaching to others that they should only be here to learn while wearing signatures for the money. 

Spread the word!  To advance past Legendary you need to have not shown a paid signature for 180 days!

True dat!  Grin Cool

Scam!!! I haven't had a paid signature for years and still stuck at Legendary Sad

Yeah, can't trust anyone these days.
Oh fuck, I used the trigger word, expect a botvanche of one liners and concern trolls...


Most of the high ranks here are hypocrites as well, preaching to others that they should only be here to learn while wearing signatures for the money. 
Oh crap! Another asshole!! Do you think you can be pushed back to your moms vaginal whole?
STFU motherfucker. LEAVE THIS PLACE if you have so many problems.

Not that I'm really interested, but do you mean "whole" or "hole" or both?

Oh crap!
...

OP is trolling, and you fed him. Tsk.

Yeah, double trolled as he's wearing an Arbitao (totes legit, no scam, they said so) badge.

1189  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 18, 2018, 09:54:12 AM
Here's a nice picture of the Arbitao head honchos enjoying some London fresh air on the banks of the River Thames, with the world famous Houses of Parliament and Big Ben in the background, no doubt just round the corner from their "London HQ".
Having a "London HQ" is still seen by many (potential investors) as a big credibility factor in the financial world.

This picture was included in this May 2018 press release.



Just one thing, like most of the UK, the Big Ben tower is falling to pieces and for over a year has been covered in scaffolding...

1190  Economy / Reputation / Re: AlanTuring- Introduction and Reputation Thread on: June 17, 2018, 07:26:41 PM
Good luck, shame about the name.
1191  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!! on: June 17, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
A couple of cross posts from their self modded thread

You can buy and sell rock2 tokens here:

https://token.store/trade/0xc16b542ff490e01fcc0dc58a60e1efdc3e357ca6

They are currently under ICO price.


With all the rumors of new miners coming out soon buying bulk s9 ballzy move.


Isn't it just? I guess they feel the need to start generating some income, any income....that ROI needs paying, but they ain't going to do it with S9's.
They are immediately available and cheap tho, so maybe the cave will be humming by say early July? (Obv. no June profit= no June payment?)
On current difficulty and price, I estimate 30 days mining with 500 X 'averaged out S9's' will return something in the region of $60k gross.

That breaks down as

50% return to investors of $30k
20% retained for reinvesting  $12k
20% expenses $12k
10% IR keep $6k

Three questions:
What's the ROI on all the tokens sharing $30k return between them? "400% annualized?" Na.....

When do they reinvest the $12k what do they buy, when does it come online and start earning?

At $0.03 per kWh, in 30 days 500 S9's will use about $17,000 of electricity. How does that $17k come out of $12,000 allowed for all expenses, including electricity, staff, security etc.?

1192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: June 17, 2018, 01:05:37 PM

With all the rumors of new miners coming out soon buying bulk s9 ballzy move.


Isn't it just? I guess they feel the need to start generating some income, any income....that ROI needs paying, but they ain't going to do it with S9's.
They are immediately available and cheap tho, so maybe the cave will be humming by say early July? (Obv. no June profit= no June payment?)
On current difficulty and price, I estimate 30 days mining with 500 X 'averaged out S9's' will return something in the region of $60k gross.

That breaks down as

50% return to investors of $30k
20% retained for reinvesting  $12k
20% expenses $12k
10% IR keep $6k

Three questions:
What's the ROI on all the tokens sharing $30k return between them? "400% annualized?" Na.....

When do they reinvest the $12k what do they buy, when does it come online and start earning?

At $0.03 per kWh, in 30 days 500 S9's will use about $17,000 of electricity. How does that $17k come out of $12,000 allowed for all expenses, including electricity, staff, security etc.?
1193  Other / Meta / Re: Possible Ponzi/Pyramid Scheme - Was going to report to mods, but... on: June 17, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
It's one of those slowburn scams that seem to be a particular favorite in Russia, home of the HYIP.
Russia is not a home of the HYIP. Charles Ponzi (1882-1949) is an American of Italian descent. Generally, we do not touch on the topic of nationality here.

There were ponzis before Ponzi.
The acronym HYIP (as opposed to uncapitalized "high yield investment program) is a modern term of scam obfuscation, having different shades of meaning in different societies.
My reference to Russia was not derogatory per se, but based on my experience of analysing hundreds of these schemes.
Multi 'investment', sprawling, baroque creations such as this one are a popular template for attracting investors/players/mugs from Russia and Eastern Europe.
Other countries favor other structures: Africans have a weakness for cash gifting schemes, Americans a soft spot for miracle cures, supplements and such like, whereas South Asian schemes based on "education" are very popular.
Of course these are generalizations; there are global scam favorites like forex and arbitrage which appeal to "passive investors" everywhere.

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You can not say that anything is a scam before someone has been deceived. Otherwise you are lying.
Read Why Mercury Global work endlessly?

Both of these points are nonsense.
A scam is a scam, irrespective of whether or when the victim realizes it.
Mercury Global does not and never will "work endlessly", it is a reboot of Mercury Mutual Fund which collapsed in 2016 and will collapse in due course itself.
This phase of the scam is usually heralded by signs of an exit strategy, for example when participants are encouraged by discounts or premiums to send funds outside of the normal accounting procedure, directly to the personal account of the admins.
Like this.....

The Keepers, who participate in the Leadership Summit, have made a collegial decision to hold a festive promotion for all participants of Mercury Global.

From 15 to 21 June inclusive, each participant, who transfers funds to the project management directly from the payment system Perfect Money, receives + 10% to the transferred funds.



This is getting off topic for this thread so I won't respond any more here, but have crossposted this to here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2460570.40
where, no doubt, the charade will play out. That's play out, not pay out....





1194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: June 16, 2018, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: blog
Q. What does continuous Mining mean?
 
A. Your mining services will run for 5 years, period – even in cases where your daily mining output falls below the Maintenance Fees. This way, you will always have the potential to produce cryptocurrencies as market conditions improve.

Excellent innovation, now instead of getting dust payments you will actually be able to pay them every month.

5 years mining... @ $285 and $0.14 fees that's also near as damn it the ROI.
Bargain!!!
/s
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: MERCURY ~ earnings 345% of BTC, ETH, LTC, USD, EUR ~ mining, trading, lending on: June 16, 2018, 10:06:23 PM
The Keepers, who participate in the Leadership Summit, have made a collegial decision to hold a festive promotion for all participants of Mercury Global.

From 15 to 21 June inclusive, each participant, who transfers funds to the project management directly from the payment system Perfect Money, receives + 10% to the transferred funds.

Gosh, that's good.  Roll Eyes
Do they get a receipt? /s

This really is the most obvious HYIP I have seen for a long time. (I use "HYIP" instead of "Ponzi Scheme" in deference to Russian preference for that term).
I can't be assed to pull this shit to pieces, anyone who gives it any credence is a lost cause, but for a page filler, here's a post from Meta


It's one of those slowburn scams that seem to be a particular favorite in Russia, home of the HYIP.
Naturally there are referral commissions involved, making it a pyramid/ponzi hybrid.



The shill neotronix, was a Bitconnect fan and obviously felt inspired by this wordpress wonder.

Bitconnect trades on exchanges with bots using cryptocurrencies volatility since Nov 2016 and is not ponzi.

The hard faced, hard sell ladies with names ending in V do a great line in totally believably popups.



As has been pointed out, scams aren't moderated here.

1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: ICOs are the cause of recent bitcoin fall. on: June 16, 2018, 09:55:28 PM
Or, just maybe, the BTC bull run above $10k was total bullshit in the first place...
1197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 16, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)

You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
1198  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CUBAAZ ICO Scam Exposed!! on: June 16, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: cubaaz press release
Cubazz ICO has even received the 2018 Business Excellence Awards

Citation please.
1199  Economy / Reputation / Re: Translation work plagiarism by cyberpinoy on: June 16, 2018, 08:51:09 PM
Are you aware of this thread?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4470489.0

According to cyberpinoy you should be, because apparently you and I are friends and I "attacked" him on your instruction....
1200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 16, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
it sounds kinda fishy

There's plenty about this "arbitrage platform" that smells "kinda fishy"....here's just three aspects of it that are atypical of previous scams which pretended to arbitrage.

1) The software is supposedly already successfully running and producing profit for anonymous "private investors".
2) The "Four types of Arbitrage pools" structure is exactly similar to HYIP script "investment opportunities" i.e. invest more, get higher
     return. There is no logic behind this structure for pooled equity trading.
3) Multi level marketing scheme attached.

That's without mentioning the Linkedin profiles, cliched marketing vids, emphasis on "community" blahblah, or the wallet or the internal exchange or the.......
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