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1181  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people stay poor? on: June 01, 2023, 04:26:31 PM
I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.
Logically, if he is really smart, he will definitely look for his own way of exit, however the state of the facilities that exist in his environment, of course, will certainly be able to use it well, it is true that the government becomes a means of facilities and infrastructure in improving capabilities, but if it is just waiting for the situation, Want to wait when to wait for the government to do it, and that is a real uncertainty. Do not expect something difficult to change like that of that friend, and I think people who think like that are not smart people, but people who are lazy to develop themselves by maximizing existing facilities.
1182  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we improve our country's economy by on culture or ecosystem? on: June 01, 2023, 02:45:04 PM
In other words education must be evenly distributed to every corner, so that the education standards become high, the things you are trying to explain can be input into the education curriculum but must be divided into several department criteria, because it is not focused on financial development. If all understands investment, then who executes the financial rounds at the grassroots, in improving the country's economy is not only fixated on the financial world, but the world of work must also be considered as a means of turnover of money, that is if you talk on a state scale.
1183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to know a good bitcoin investors! on: June 01, 2023, 02:21:44 PM
i  didn't get to see HAVING PATIENCE in the list because this alone is another side of the business, no patience no chance of good reward, am likely to stimulate around the whole scenario of an investor. i see it as a hard task for me to handle.

Well the list of OPs are actually a good characteristics of a good investors. I think what you said it's already a part in the listed since for example, if you are a good planner then you would follow what you have plan right? Then that's the patience will entry, because without patience then probably you would get bored and do something risky that could result that you just wasted what you have planned. In any aspect of being a good investor patience is always a key to success because if you want to be rick quick then patience would literally be gone affecting the listed of characteristics posted by OP.

So maybe you say that patience has become a unity of what the OP conveys in the point or becomes an implied message from the points he conveyed, seen from the characteristics conveyed in my personal opinion, it is likely that patience has become a part of us Understand and must be applied in the basis of an investor, it is impossible if a person who is good at managing does not have patience, but it can be as great as he can manage there is one point of time losing patience that makes him destroyed in investing.
Patience has indeed become an important element in any case let alone invest in Bitcoin.
1184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: May 31, 2023, 06:00:06 PM
Bitcoin price growth has indeed been proven in recent years until now it still has a positive ROI,
but for investments starting this year, ofcourse we hope that Bitcoin can reach a new year again, but that cannot be guaranteed either,
if you add There are too many bitcoins in your portfolio that you really need to know when to get out.

Historical patterns of Bitcoin price have demonstrated that it is not a good item for short term or day to day trading for generating profit unless you are professional trader and fully understand market dynamics and posses sufficient knowledge/experience of technical indicators. however, holding Bitcoin for extended period of time can potentially generate significant profits, particularly after its halving event that reduces block rewards and consequently increases its scarcity.

We agree that historically bitcoin benefits us if we hold it for a long period of time, or are happy to be said HOLD.  Of course this is not a recommended thing if you want to trade short term, because the risk in this decision is indeed high enough that it will easily suck up bitcoin you if you sell it at a low price (even though you have done all your efforts to short-term trading, it still doesn't guarantee you will always be profitable).
Halving is indeed the goal of most people, because many predict that after that there will be mass adoption that will make bitcoin return to ATH, sentences like that are very common for other people to talk about bitcoin, even though basically nothing guarantees that bitcoin will re-form a new ATH in Halving this cycle.
You will only be holding on to yourself, and so will I, holding onto my bitcoins.
1185  Economy / Economics / Re: Money hardly come this days! Why? on: May 31, 2023, 04:58:22 PM
The savings fund should have been thought of earlier when we are experiencing a crisis, it will be a little helped by having savings, so even with income from work it won't make you more complicated, but we have to think that side income is also important to cover other needs.

We often blamed the pandemic in the past but now we are free, meaning the economy has started to recover again. We just have to think for ourselves what it would be like when there were no restrictions, we could do even more passive work, in the sense that we had to be able to look for opportunities to get out of this difficult zone because I feel that we are always comfortable with our current job, only covering our needs, but when times are hard, you will find it difficult and stuck in the old atmosphere again.
Indirectly, in this case, especially with conditions that are getting more and more difficult, like it or not, we have to make our conditions more and more survive because that is what is being demanded at this time.
Blaming conditions and circumstances obviously won't make us much better off but instead this makes it even more difficult to deal with and in this case then we certainly have to try to survive more so that the conditions aren't too bad for us even though this obviously takes a lot of energy and thought but if it's not like that and giving up with that situation won't be too good.
Savings funds are indeed quite helpful in times of crisis, but if you only think about it now, it will only result in regret in yourself.
Yes, in conclusion, we have to move more and more today as a solution to anxiety due to difficulties that occur in the economy, complaining and lamenting the situation is just a waste of time and does not provide positive output for thinking and working productivity to bring in money. For now, maybe it's better for us to maximize the existing work to stay afloat longer.
Do the existing work, even if you only have a small income, at least enough to survive for your family, after the economic situation is better, things that have been regretted should not be done again.
1186  Economy / Economics / Re: Fake support? on: May 31, 2023, 01:49:19 PM
Things are now looking different for crypto in china right now, I thought china will be the most hateful country on crypto after they destroyed so many asics that belongs to crypto miners in the country and crypto mining was also banned.

Now china is now taking the biggest approach to embracing web3 and support some crypto projects, since china has banned Bitcoin over 6 times in the past do you think this is another fake move?

I know that Hongkong is the soul location that's doing all this crypto thing, do you think that the whole country (china) will benefit from this or this case will be that Hong Kong will be the location for crypto things?

What's your belief on these? Are they trying to beat the US to it? Because right now the US is playing dumb with crypto and china sees a better opportunity in crypto, what do you think?how will this end?

This trend is a Chinese strategy to anticipate world progress in the future, they include a point in Hong Kong as a center for developing cryptocurrency and web3 projects. Learning from bitcoin, which they banned before, if you think about it as China, which carries out strict security and has a producer's attitude to a global product I think China had fear of bitcoin before besides talking about resources in bitcoin mining, but had other thoughts in banning bitcoin mining before.
I don't see it as fake support, in fact I think it is China's move to become a country that is ready for technological advances and disruption in the banking world.
As for the US itself, I don't understand what they are planning, and they are saying stupid things about cryptos causing bank collapses like SVB in the US.
1187  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you consider moving abroad? on: May 30, 2023, 04:31:14 PM
For someone who lives in a third-world country, it is the dream of everyone here to move abroad and find a job on first world and highly urbanized country, but in my case, I cannot because I don't have a degree and this is what highly urbanized countries are looking for immigrant, it's hard for workers here in my location to move to first world country, there's a lot of requirements and you need money, it's easy if you have a sponsor.
I can work in the middle east but the salary is very far from what you're getting if you work in Canada or the US, so I just settle to work online like OP we all want a better life for ourselves and our families because of the economic situation here in our country but there are things that hold you for going abroad.
Talking about degrees, I think that's too old thinking, because if you look at it from the job market now, it prioritizes abilities rather than talking about what degree or graduate you come from.
If you have the qualifications, have qualified skills in your field, especially nowadays in the field of technology, you will get access easily, even finding sponsors will be easy for you to get if you have that ability.
In the world of part three it's quite sad when talking about job salaries, but your classmate who have a legendary account on this forum and work on Sinbad's signature campaign, are certainly quite enough for your needs there.
And you don't need to be tired of going abroad to find work.
1188  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 30, 2023, 02:39:57 PM
Halving kelihatannya semakin dekat.
Hilalnya bisa dihitung secara detil, jadi bukan kelihatan lagi, tapi sudah pasti.
Jika anda melihat di web site ini, Halving masih terhitung 332 hari lagi, dan itu bisa di katakan satu tahun kurang satu bulan, dan ya kenyataannya masih jauh dan kita memiliki kesempatan yang cukup untuk mengumpulkan bitcoin.

Posisi sekarang ini hampir sama dengan 2019 sebelum halving 2020, cocoknya memang untuk membeli bertahap atau DCA. Kalau user sabar nunggu sekitar 2 tahun lagi, mungkin baru bisa menikmati profitnya, tapi kalau user short term harus memperhatikan juga semua detil untuk bisa retest ke 30K, kalau gagal ya nahan dulu. gitu aja.

Betul mas, seperti yang saya sebutkan di reply post sebelumnya, pattern kali ini cukup mirip dengan kondisi 2018/2019, jika mungkin pattern ini terulang, maka puncak ATH akan terjadi pada 2025.
Dengan kata lain jika hal serupa seperti tahun 2018/2019 untuk mencapai ATH baru pada bitcoin yang di katakan terjadi pada tahun 2025, berarti kemungkinan Halving setahun dari sekarang tidak akan memiliki efek atau kekuatan untuk membentuk ATH barunya di tahun 2024, karena memang jika di lihat dari paternnya yang di lihat pada hari ini, itu condong lebih ke 2025 untuk ATH barunya.
Tetapi itu adaha sebuah prediksi dan spekulasi yang mungkin bisa saja salah, karena pada dasarnya tidak ada orang mampu memprediksi dengan benar perihal pasar bitcoin seperti apa kedepannya, tetapi hal yang penting untuk investor bitcoin, ya terus mengumpulkan bitcoin walaupun sedikit dengan sedikit, dengan tujuan samapai pada kepuasan atau target jual yang di inginkan.
1189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time for me to buy on: May 30, 2023, 01:20:42 PM
snip
Buying could really be on different variations.

1. Buy when there's a market correction
2. Buy when everyone is really on fear
3. Buy if there's some positive news
4. Buy in accumulation since you are after for long term.

Best time to buy is when everything is still cheap. Doesnt matter if you are going for short term or long term as long it would be cheap
then you would really be that benefiting when market recovers.
One thing more important than all the things you mentioned is to buy when you have money. How can you buy bitcoin if you don't have money when the market corrects and drops? So in my opinion, the best time to buy is whenever you have the money, and this only applies to long term investors, not to short term traders.

Bitcoin buying should be done slowly and gradually, do not buy with just 1 order because the market is very unpredictable. If we buy once, especially in a bear market, we will most likely miss many lower lows.
I totally agree, that the best time to buy is when you have the money, and this is recommended for those who have the intention of holding bitcoins for a long term, otherwise it will weigh you down against market volatility.
And at the time of market correction, people are panic selling, in positive news circumstances, it is a bonus opportunity to buy bitcoin because it will very rarely happen, and you need to understand that buying bitcoin must be gradual or do a DCA strategy so that all of these opportunities can be realized. we get when we still have the money to do a DCA instead of making a purchase outright.
1190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin bonus real or a scam? on: May 30, 2023, 09:31:10 AM
Bitcoin bonus is a website that claim to user can earn bitcoin for no cost. But user now have a question is bitcoin bonus real or a scam. These days people are caught in scams specially online scam so people are scared to believe online website. But bitcoin bonus is well updated website and designed and developed by professional people. The first bonus given to new comer is $5, which is a catch here, why would anyone give money just for signing up on website.

I'm trying to understand the context, basically in this case, of course there is doubt because they are giving bonus bitcoins to new users of their service, it looks real and it's not strange with the amount of $ 5 for the reward, but there are a few things to watch out for, as you can see say it's not fair to make bitcoin as a bonus today because it has a sizable fee for the amount given, if you look at it of course this makes me feel doubtful, so most likely it's all fraud and intended only for those who are easily attracted and trying their luck to sign in as a customer on their website.
What I know today is not in 2017 but in 2023, basically bitcoin is very expensive as well as transaction fees and information related to it is easier to manipulate, so be careful when participating in free events.
1191  Economy / Economics / Re: Dedollarization is here, like it or not on: May 30, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
De-dollarization is the output of anxiety towards the US which is always arbitrary towards other countries, let alone small countries, we have seen this fact for years.
All conspiracies must be related to the phenomena that are happening in the world today, and they will definitely emerge.

Indeed, the US military today is counted capable of stopping de-dollarization and invites its members in the NATO organization to assist in this matter. But if being aggressive is like saying war outright, that's not typical of the US that I know, they will always make propaganda at one key point of all this de-dollarization movement and slander and then finish them off.
I'm also quite curious, what will the US do to stop de-dollarization, while the US will face elections in 2024, which I think conditions like this will be vulnerable.
1192  Economy / Economics / Re: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? on: May 29, 2023, 01:03:36 PM
If this is for government civil work, of course there must be a limit for retirement, even if they retire, of course, their experience is very much needed so that they can be placed in special training so that what they get can be immediately adopted by the next generation or successors.
Civil servants who are retired do not necessarily have to share their experiences with other people or with civil servants who are still actively working because usually civil servants who retire are due to their old age and even if they want to be used in training places it will not be very effective because usually people who are too old, the way of teaching will be slightly different from those who are still not retired. So there is no need to force someone who has retired to share his experience through a training because retirement is a time to rest for him.
Yes, I agree that retired civil servants, on average, are old, rarely take early retirement.
And indeed, when civil servants with various experiences as knowledge only stick to their historical stories with dead-end explanations or just boasting about themselves, I often find such retired civil servants in my environment.
Of course this will be in contrast to young people who have a need for accelerated education, in my opinion, it will not be effective and will certainly be far from the target it should be.
So it's better if this is the case that the working retirement age limit is closer to me, like at the age of 45-55 years who are regarded as humans who have the maturity and maturity to share experiences with younger ones.
1193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Educating unemployed friends about Bitcoin on: May 29, 2023, 12:30:13 PM
Is Bitcoin legal in your country? If it's a no for an answer it's better to avoid teaching people how to make money through Bitcoin because you are exposing yourself, and it can lead to your arrest.

I don't talk too much about the good side of Bitcoin if I want to introduce people to people, I always try to scare them first, to see their reaction and if truly they are ready to lose some money, talk about the volatility, talk about the possibility of losing their Bitcoin if their wallet recovery seed becomes visible to the public.

More people have walked away from me than those that really end up staying and still insisted that I teach them about Bitcoin investment, this will safe your time from people that only want to see themselves making money without any botheration.
Yes, that's probably the best way to avoid yourself from the nearest apparatus, because if it's illegal, then when we force access to it and many people know about it, of course, you have to pay very serious attention because it endangers yourself.
Because indeed if bitcoin is illegal in the country and then we expose ourselves to the surrounding environment because we invite some friends and teach them, chances are traitors will exist in that friendship environment, and that makes all the investments that are made chaotic, which was intended for good instead like killing myself indirectly, I agree that it is better for me to keep my knowledge of bitcoin than to find myself in an insecure position if I am in a country where bitcoin is not legal.

I just want to protect myself and my bitcon.
1194  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: May 28, 2023, 01:31:03 PM
Saya dapat memahami bahwa bergelut di kampanye bounties dan airdrop akan diberikan token yang belum tentu punya harga dan bayaran akan diberikan setelah kampanye selesai.
Sedangkan kampanye yang berbayar bitcoin pembayaran akan diberikan setiap minggu dalam bentuk bitcoin.
Mari kita lihat realita yang sering terjadi di kehidupan nyata, semua orang pasti ingin mendapat sebuah jaminan (meninggalkan yang tidak pasti untuk mengambil sesuatu yang pasti). Bergelut di bounties Campaign dan signature campaign adalah pilihan, buruh bangunan akan meninggalkan pekerjaannya jika mendapat tawaran yang lebih baik dengan jumlah gaji yang lebih besar. Meskipun ini bukan masalah besarnya hasil yang didapat, seseorang akan mengambil kesempatan yang bisa memberi kepastian daripada harapan.
Token atau koin yang diperoleh di bounties Campaign adalah harapan, bisa jadi jackpot atau berubah menjadi sampah, tentu ini sebuah delima bagi Hunter.
Ya ini akan menjadi dilematis, karena ketidak pastian harga pada token yang di dapat, seperti yang agan bilang itu.
Namun jika melihat dari pembayaran bitcoin dari kampanye signatur untuk sekelas rank SR hingga legendaris bisa di bilang cukup untuk memenuhi kebutuhan, ya wajar saja ada beberapa orang yang menjadikannya pekerjaan utama.
Tetapi jika dari bounties atau pembayarannya menggunakan token atau koin dari penyelenggara, itu akan sangat berisiko, jika di jadikan pekerjaan utama karena tidak ada yang menjamin harga pada koin yang menjadi upahnya.
Saya sendiri menjadikan signatur campaign atau bounties campaign jika mendapatkan kesempatan bergabung, hanya di jadikan sebagai sampingan dan hanya untuk memenuhi waktu luang saja, itu lebih aman bagi saya.
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1197  Economy / Economics / Re: Logic of life on: May 28, 2023, 11:42:31 AM
The logic of life is that you can't earn more than you know,
Any amount you are earning today is 80% as a limit of what you know.

The richest man on earth is earning whatever amount he is earning due to the advantage of  what he knows or  can do.

So, before you can move from earning $100 dollar monthly to $1000 per month,
   One of the major thing you must scale up is your knowledge.

So ask yourself, what should I know that can make me ×2 my monthly income?

Seek knowledge always.
You need to understand that knowledge has many fields, has many roots and is not always about money, you must understand what is the context of knowledge, what you are trying to convey so you don't have wild and non-leading arguments.
Aren't those who are sitting in school or university studying or seeking knowledge? I think they also have knowledge of the field they are engaged in, but not every profession can be mixed. Unless you advise someone to study the world of finance, capital market investment, bond investment, bitcoin investment and others, that is already a concern for most people here, if you just stick to knowledge without having a strategy to achieve your goals you will only be exhausted in learning.
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