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1121  Economy / Economics / Re: Fake support? on: May 31, 2023, 01:49:19 PM
Things are now looking different for crypto in china right now, I thought china will be the most hateful country on crypto after they destroyed so many asics that belongs to crypto miners in the country and crypto mining was also banned.

Now china is now taking the biggest approach to embracing web3 and support some crypto projects, since china has banned Bitcoin over 6 times in the past do you think this is another fake move?

I know that Hongkong is the soul location that's doing all this crypto thing, do you think that the whole country (china) will benefit from this or this case will be that Hong Kong will be the location for crypto things?

What's your belief on these? Are they trying to beat the US to it? Because right now the US is playing dumb with crypto and china sees a better opportunity in crypto, what do you think?how will this end?

This trend is a Chinese strategy to anticipate world progress in the future, they include a point in Hong Kong as a center for developing cryptocurrency and web3 projects. Learning from bitcoin, which they banned before, if you think about it as China, which carries out strict security and has a producer's attitude to a global product I think China had fear of bitcoin before besides talking about resources in bitcoin mining, but had other thoughts in banning bitcoin mining before.
I don't see it as fake support, in fact I think it is China's move to become a country that is ready for technological advances and disruption in the banking world.
As for the US itself, I don't understand what they are planning, and they are saying stupid things about cryptos causing bank collapses like SVB in the US.
1122  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you consider moving abroad? on: May 30, 2023, 04:31:14 PM
For someone who lives in a third-world country, it is the dream of everyone here to move abroad and find a job on first world and highly urbanized country, but in my case, I cannot because I don't have a degree and this is what highly urbanized countries are looking for immigrant, it's hard for workers here in my location to move to first world country, there's a lot of requirements and you need money, it's easy if you have a sponsor.
I can work in the middle east but the salary is very far from what you're getting if you work in Canada or the US, so I just settle to work online like OP we all want a better life for ourselves and our families because of the economic situation here in our country but there are things that hold you for going abroad.
Talking about degrees, I think that's too old thinking, because if you look at it from the job market now, it prioritizes abilities rather than talking about what degree or graduate you come from.
If you have the qualifications, have qualified skills in your field, especially nowadays in the field of technology, you will get access easily, even finding sponsors will be easy for you to get if you have that ability.
In the world of part three it's quite sad when talking about job salaries, but your classmate who have a legendary account on this forum and work on Sinbad's signature campaign, are certainly quite enough for your needs there.
And you don't need to be tired of going abroad to find work.
1123  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 30, 2023, 02:39:57 PM
Halving kelihatannya semakin dekat.
Hilalnya bisa dihitung secara detil, jadi bukan kelihatan lagi, tapi sudah pasti.
Jika anda melihat di web site ini, Halving masih terhitung 332 hari lagi, dan itu bisa di katakan satu tahun kurang satu bulan, dan ya kenyataannya masih jauh dan kita memiliki kesempatan yang cukup untuk mengumpulkan bitcoin.

Posisi sekarang ini hampir sama dengan 2019 sebelum halving 2020, cocoknya memang untuk membeli bertahap atau DCA. Kalau user sabar nunggu sekitar 2 tahun lagi, mungkin baru bisa menikmati profitnya, tapi kalau user short term harus memperhatikan juga semua detil untuk bisa retest ke 30K, kalau gagal ya nahan dulu. gitu aja.

Betul mas, seperti yang saya sebutkan di reply post sebelumnya, pattern kali ini cukup mirip dengan kondisi 2018/2019, jika mungkin pattern ini terulang, maka puncak ATH akan terjadi pada 2025.
Dengan kata lain jika hal serupa seperti tahun 2018/2019 untuk mencapai ATH baru pada bitcoin yang di katakan terjadi pada tahun 2025, berarti kemungkinan Halving setahun dari sekarang tidak akan memiliki efek atau kekuatan untuk membentuk ATH barunya di tahun 2024, karena memang jika di lihat dari paternnya yang di lihat pada hari ini, itu condong lebih ke 2025 untuk ATH barunya.
Tetapi itu adaha sebuah prediksi dan spekulasi yang mungkin bisa saja salah, karena pada dasarnya tidak ada orang mampu memprediksi dengan benar perihal pasar bitcoin seperti apa kedepannya, tetapi hal yang penting untuk investor bitcoin, ya terus mengumpulkan bitcoin walaupun sedikit dengan sedikit, dengan tujuan samapai pada kepuasan atau target jual yang di inginkan.
1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time for me to buy on: May 30, 2023, 01:20:42 PM
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Buying could really be on different variations.

1. Buy when there's a market correction
2. Buy when everyone is really on fear
3. Buy if there's some positive news
4. Buy in accumulation since you are after for long term.

Best time to buy is when everything is still cheap. Doesnt matter if you are going for short term or long term as long it would be cheap
then you would really be that benefiting when market recovers.
One thing more important than all the things you mentioned is to buy when you have money. How can you buy bitcoin if you don't have money when the market corrects and drops? So in my opinion, the best time to buy is whenever you have the money, and this only applies to long term investors, not to short term traders.

Bitcoin buying should be done slowly and gradually, do not buy with just 1 order because the market is very unpredictable. If we buy once, especially in a bear market, we will most likely miss many lower lows.
I totally agree, that the best time to buy is when you have the money, and this is recommended for those who have the intention of holding bitcoins for a long term, otherwise it will weigh you down against market volatility.
And at the time of market correction, people are panic selling, in positive news circumstances, it is a bonus opportunity to buy bitcoin because it will very rarely happen, and you need to understand that buying bitcoin must be gradual or do a DCA strategy so that all of these opportunities can be realized. we get when we still have the money to do a DCA instead of making a purchase outright.
1125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin bonus real or a scam? on: May 30, 2023, 09:31:10 AM
Bitcoin bonus is a website that claim to user can earn bitcoin for no cost. But user now have a question is bitcoin bonus real or a scam. These days people are caught in scams specially online scam so people are scared to believe online website. But bitcoin bonus is well updated website and designed and developed by professional people. The first bonus given to new comer is $5, which is a catch here, why would anyone give money just for signing up on website.

I'm trying to understand the context, basically in this case, of course there is doubt because they are giving bonus bitcoins to new users of their service, it looks real and it's not strange with the amount of $ 5 for the reward, but there are a few things to watch out for, as you can see say it's not fair to make bitcoin as a bonus today because it has a sizable fee for the amount given, if you look at it of course this makes me feel doubtful, so most likely it's all fraud and intended only for those who are easily attracted and trying their luck to sign in as a customer on their website.
What I know today is not in 2017 but in 2023, basically bitcoin is very expensive as well as transaction fees and information related to it is easier to manipulate, so be careful when participating in free events.
1126  Economy / Economics / Re: Dedollarization is here, like it or not on: May 30, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
De-dollarization is the output of anxiety towards the US which is always arbitrary towards other countries, let alone small countries, we have seen this fact for years.
All conspiracies must be related to the phenomena that are happening in the world today, and they will definitely emerge.

Indeed, the US military today is counted capable of stopping de-dollarization and invites its members in the NATO organization to assist in this matter. But if being aggressive is like saying war outright, that's not typical of the US that I know, they will always make propaganda at one key point of all this de-dollarization movement and slander and then finish them off.
I'm also quite curious, what will the US do to stop de-dollarization, while the US will face elections in 2024, which I think conditions like this will be vulnerable.
1127  Economy / Economics / Re: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? on: May 29, 2023, 01:03:36 PM
If this is for government civil work, of course there must be a limit for retirement, even if they retire, of course, their experience is very much needed so that they can be placed in special training so that what they get can be immediately adopted by the next generation or successors.
Civil servants who are retired do not necessarily have to share their experiences with other people or with civil servants who are still actively working because usually civil servants who retire are due to their old age and even if they want to be used in training places it will not be very effective because usually people who are too old, the way of teaching will be slightly different from those who are still not retired. So there is no need to force someone who has retired to share his experience through a training because retirement is a time to rest for him.
Yes, I agree that retired civil servants, on average, are old, rarely take early retirement.
And indeed, when civil servants with various experiences as knowledge only stick to their historical stories with dead-end explanations or just boasting about themselves, I often find such retired civil servants in my environment.
Of course this will be in contrast to young people who have a need for accelerated education, in my opinion, it will not be effective and will certainly be far from the target it should be.
So it's better if this is the case that the working retirement age limit is closer to me, like at the age of 45-55 years who are regarded as humans who have the maturity and maturity to share experiences with younger ones.
1128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Educating unemployed friends about Bitcoin on: May 29, 2023, 12:30:13 PM
Is Bitcoin legal in your country? If it's a no for an answer it's better to avoid teaching people how to make money through Bitcoin because you are exposing yourself, and it can lead to your arrest.

I don't talk too much about the good side of Bitcoin if I want to introduce people to people, I always try to scare them first, to see their reaction and if truly they are ready to lose some money, talk about the volatility, talk about the possibility of losing their Bitcoin if their wallet recovery seed becomes visible to the public.

More people have walked away from me than those that really end up staying and still insisted that I teach them about Bitcoin investment, this will safe your time from people that only want to see themselves making money without any botheration.
Yes, that's probably the best way to avoid yourself from the nearest apparatus, because if it's illegal, then when we force access to it and many people know about it, of course, you have to pay very serious attention because it endangers yourself.
Because indeed if bitcoin is illegal in the country and then we expose ourselves to the surrounding environment because we invite some friends and teach them, chances are traitors will exist in that friendship environment, and that makes all the investments that are made chaotic, which was intended for good instead like killing myself indirectly, I agree that it is better for me to keep my knowledge of bitcoin than to find myself in an insecure position if I am in a country where bitcoin is not legal.

I just want to protect myself and my bitcon.
1129  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: May 28, 2023, 01:31:03 PM
Saya dapat memahami bahwa bergelut di kampanye bounties dan airdrop akan diberikan token yang belum tentu punya harga dan bayaran akan diberikan setelah kampanye selesai.
Sedangkan kampanye yang berbayar bitcoin pembayaran akan diberikan setiap minggu dalam bentuk bitcoin.
Mari kita lihat realita yang sering terjadi di kehidupan nyata, semua orang pasti ingin mendapat sebuah jaminan (meninggalkan yang tidak pasti untuk mengambil sesuatu yang pasti). Bergelut di bounties Campaign dan signature campaign adalah pilihan, buruh bangunan akan meninggalkan pekerjaannya jika mendapat tawaran yang lebih baik dengan jumlah gaji yang lebih besar. Meskipun ini bukan masalah besarnya hasil yang didapat, seseorang akan mengambil kesempatan yang bisa memberi kepastian daripada harapan.
Token atau koin yang diperoleh di bounties Campaign adalah harapan, bisa jadi jackpot atau berubah menjadi sampah, tentu ini sebuah delima bagi Hunter.
Ya ini akan menjadi dilematis, karena ketidak pastian harga pada token yang di dapat, seperti yang agan bilang itu.
Namun jika melihat dari pembayaran bitcoin dari kampanye signatur untuk sekelas rank SR hingga legendaris bisa di bilang cukup untuk memenuhi kebutuhan, ya wajar saja ada beberapa orang yang menjadikannya pekerjaan utama.
Tetapi jika dari bounties atau pembayarannya menggunakan token atau koin dari penyelenggara, itu akan sangat berisiko, jika di jadikan pekerjaan utama karena tidak ada yang menjamin harga pada koin yang menjadi upahnya.
Saya sendiri menjadikan signatur campaign atau bounties campaign jika mendapatkan kesempatan bergabung, hanya di jadikan sebagai sampingan dan hanya untuk memenuhi waktu luang saja, itu lebih aman bagi saya.
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1132  Economy / Economics / Re: Logic of life on: May 28, 2023, 11:42:31 AM
The logic of life is that you can't earn more than you know,
Any amount you are earning today is 80% as a limit of what you know.

The richest man on earth is earning whatever amount he is earning due to the advantage of  what he knows or  can do.

So, before you can move from earning $100 dollar monthly to $1000 per month,
   One of the major thing you must scale up is your knowledge.

So ask yourself, what should I know that can make me ×2 my monthly income?

Seek knowledge always.
You need to understand that knowledge has many fields, has many roots and is not always about money, you must understand what is the context of knowledge, what you are trying to convey so you don't have wild and non-leading arguments.
Aren't those who are sitting in school or university studying or seeking knowledge? I think they also have knowledge of the field they are engaged in, but not every profession can be mixed. Unless you advise someone to study the world of finance, capital market investment, bond investment, bitcoin investment and others, that is already a concern for most people here, if you just stick to knowledge without having a strategy to achieve your goals you will only be exhausted in learning.
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1136  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Other Alternatives to Borrowing Money to Start Trading on: May 22, 2023, 06:33:41 PM
It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
This kind of thing is intended for suicide, making money in trading is not easy for a beginner, except maybe using cunning or deceitful methods by taking advantage of loopholes in trading programs.
but it's true, from a capital of $ 10 to get a profit of $ 50+ or $ 100 is not an easy thing to do.
It should be yes, when a trade is profitable it is better to keep half of the profit and the other half to continue trading, it may be more effective to prevent losses when not making a profit while trading.
Having targets like that is good in trading so that we have certain limits and guard against greed when trading, but usually with small capital it is very difficult to get sizable profits, unless you do it in future trades.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.
This means to me that a new trader should always be patient and not be in a hurry to trade with big amounts. New traders should not borrow a huge amount of money to finance their trading because it can easily be lost. As a new trader, you should start small if you do not have enough money to start big. Even though it is not advisable to borrow funds to finance your trading, it is worse for a new trader to do so than an old trader. If you must borrow to trade, it has to be at a stage where you are very sure of your trading, that is of course after gathering experience. If you are a trader with no experience, avoid borrowing money to trade with.
Borrowing money for the first time trading is the stupidest thing, I agree with you that it will be really detrimental, even a person who has studied for more than 3 months is full of his own money, he does not find consistent profits from his trading, it's too risky if forced, don't think too easily about profits and don't take it easy to become a trader who can produce consistently.
1137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 22, 2023, 12:09:53 PM
Guardiola should already be ready for coming across a defensive-oriented game against themselves from Inter. Because there is no point in Inter's playing with overconfidence against Manchester City. They would just give exactly what their opponent wants. Inter will need to focus on wearing out Manchester City attackers by defending them tightly.
You've got a point there. Inter don't look like Manchester City's equal but, they would put up a fight somehow and that is by playing a defensive game, try to draw Manchester City out and then go on the counter attack. Better still, hold the game to a draw till the final whistle goes and then take there chances with a penalty shootout but the question is... Can Inter Milan really withstand the pressure of Manchester City? These guys keeps coming at you and coming at you. They even get worst after managing to get a first goal.
It would take all of Inter Milans UCL experience to win this one if they could as, Pep is desperate and this is Manchester City's golden opportunity.
Even though Inter Milan seems to be quite famous for their defensive strategy which is quite strong. and Inter also have quick and sharp counter-attacks. But I doubt Inter Milan's defense can hold back the Manchester City trio who are hungry for goals in every game they play. they are Haaland, B. Silva and De Bruyne. these three Man City players really can always create gaps in the defense of every opponent they face. So it will definitely be very difficult for Inter Milan to be able to hold these players.
Simone Inzaghi should have learned from the Manchaster City vs Real Madrid match yesterday, they shouldn't focus too much on blocking Haaland's movements but they didn't let them, Real Madrid's mistake yesterday was too focused on keeping Haaland's movements and the others had freedom.
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Even as we have seen Real Madrid also have to admit that Manchester City this season has a level above them. And I honestly feel that Inter Milan does have a lower level of play than Manchester City this season. But in terms of history and experience in the UCL, of course Inter Milan has more experience as a team that has lifted trophies in the UCL several times.
It doesn't have any effect at the moment, we see that Real Madrid, which is a regular champion in a prestigious league like the UCL, was unable to hold off Manchester City today, even impressed by being humiliated in the second leg of their match,
I also have a hunch that Inter Milan in terms of performance this season is below Manchester City.
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Maybe Inter Milan will indeed make a defensive strategy and counterattack when there are gaps. But because this is the final. so I think Manchester City will be much more careful in the final match later. So it is possible that the aggressiveness of Manchester City's attack in the final could decrease slightly. Because of course they have to make sharp attacks and at the same time make a strong defense without gaps so that no counterattack can break through their defense.

the point is this fight might be more fierce than we expected.
Maybe the scenario is like that, Simone Inzaghi really has to be thorough and look for weaknesses in the Manchaster City squad so they don't focus too much on defending and only rely on counterattacks when the City's game is cut short. I also think this will be a difficult match for Inter Milan, and for some reason most people look down on Inter Milan including me, maybe too amazed by the achievements that Manchester City has at the end of this season.

But yes this is a final and as usual we cannot predict easily was the whistle is blown, anything can happen on the field.
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1139  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Indonesia harus mengikuti saran Bank Dunia on: May 21, 2023, 06:55:46 PM
Harus di akui memang orang Miskin Di Indonesia memang ada dan tidak usah ditutupi ada banyak malan. Namun katagori dari Bank Dunia menilai miskin Indonesia itu apa dulu, kalau standardnya memakai Dollar maka itu tidak boleh dilakukan karena Dollar adalah standard buatan Negara-Negara yang sudah semenjak lama menjadi Diktaktor Kolonialisme gaya baru. Karena sudah pasti juar berbeda UMR kita sama UMR Eropa sangat jauh berbeda.

Kalau menggunakan standard Dollar,Indonesia pasti akan selalu menjadi negara dengan tinggi kemiskinan karena mereka punya niat yang kurang baik kepada Indonesia, Misalnya Mereka ingin melihat Indonesia tetap miskin dengan memaksa Indonesia menjual bahan mentah Tambang seperti Nikel, Alumunium, Logam dll.

Negara-negara Barat selalu ingin melihat Indonesia miskin, tidak mampu membayar hutang, hancur, karena hanya dengan cara itu taktik mereka sebagai negara mantan Kolonialisme mampu menyedok kekayaan Alam Indonesia, mereka tau  Indonesia kaya Raya banyak kekayaan Alam dan memaksakan kehendaknya menilai miskin orang Indonesia dengan standar buatan mereka sendiri yaitu Dollar.
Saya tidak berpikir memiliki orientasi menyamaratakan standarisasi penghasilan minimum dengan negara Europa atau negara asing manapun, itu hanya perbedaan kurs saja, jika mereka mengatakan $3 berarti kita Rp 45k-an, yang bermaksud menaikkan pendapatan minimum perhari menjadi 45k sebagai tingkat standarisasi baru untuk mendapatkan orang -orang yang pada lapangannya masih masuk kategori miskin.

Tapi mungkin bank dunia memiliki udang di balik batu, untuk mengungkap indonesia bahwa sebenarnya memprihatinkan dengan tingkat kemiskinan yang cukup tinggi, dan mereka memanfaatkan situasi itu seperti yang anda katakan, mengiming-imingi pemerintah untuk menjual sesuatu atau meminjam uang ke mereka dan jerat hutang dengan bunga tidak akan pernah selesai.
1140  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Indonesia harus mengikuti saran Bank Dunia on: May 19, 2023, 04:28:07 PM
Saya setuju, dinaikan tingkat pendapatan hanya akan menambah jumlah catatan orang miskin.
Tetapi jika di bandingkan dengan peredaran uang saat ini, itu adalah langkah yang cukup bisa di pertimbangkan dengan positif.
Kita tahu setiap daerah memiliki batasnya masing-masing, pada tingkat pendapatan yang berorientasi pada kelas ekonomi bawah, menengah dan atas.  

Jujur saja penghitungan pendapatan 30k perhari itu tidak cukup bahkan di 50k.
Pandangan saya menaikan tingkat pendapatan rata-rata cukup penting karena orientasinya pada skala kemiskinan yang di beritakan menurun padahal masalah utamanya adalah masyarakat untuk mendapatkan uang lebih mudah mengejar jumlah hari ini, dengan artian 30k pada hari ini untuk pendapatan kelas miskin pasti bisa mendapatkannya.

Ini memang akan meningkatkan jumlah pendataan kemiskinan, tapi sejujurnya itu tidak memiliki pengaruh apa pun  pada sektor ekonomi, ini akan membuat mata terbuka bahwa kemiskinan memang sangat tinggi di indonesia, menaikan standarisasi rata-rata pendapatan bisa mengeneralisasi kemiskinan dan menjadi fokus pemerintah untuk memberantasnya.
Namun ya di balik ini bank dunia tidak menutup mata memiliki tujuan lain, nama indonesia ketika standarisasi di naikan akan timbul data kemiskinan yang tinggi, dan pastinya itu membuat indonesia buruk di pandangan dunia.

Saya juga akan setuju jika Bank dunia mendorong indonesia untuk aktif memberantas industri ilegal dan korupsi. Grin
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