When I read this, that HONCHO says smooth has destroyed AnonyMint's reputation by hoodwinking (WTF) I understood that unfortunately HONCHO is a TPTB_need_war sockpuppet. Only the emotional and often  impulsive and sometimes hysterical TPTB_need_war says such melancholy nonsense which in the same time aggressive as well. God bless him, as I said we like him for many reasons, and I genuinely wish he be OK.

I told TPTB_need_war please start working with real people in real world crypto projects. I said to him, you need to be in a project and interacting with developers to unleash your potential instead of arguing in this forum. He said, no no, I want to work with the smartest, i.e. a person who is smarter than he is. Fair enough, but since fucking Einstein is dead, searching for the smartest than TPTB_need_war is an uphill task. So instead of working with anybody, he is go around in this forum by telling that he is the smartest. A bit bizarre as hmachado and others pointed out, but again, I wish I could help him to sort out his problems.

One thing is sure, if I am wrong and HONCHO is not TPTB_need_war sockpuppet, which I doubt very much, but lets assume the unlikely that HONCHO is not TPTB_need_war, then the issue is bigger. This HONCHO nick act even weirder than TPTB_need_war does so don't expect anything more than a drama from the HONCHO-TPTB_need_war partnership.

TPTB_need_war, please stop this comedy, as it is transforming into a tragicomedy.

By now everyone who ever spoke to the TPTB_need_war account understand that the HONCHO account is a TPTB_need_war sockpuppet. Fine. You tried to come back this way, but it is getting creepy as you try to speak for the TPTB_need_war account like "AnonyMint is one clever mofo" and "Holier than thou, as AnonyMint would write" and "fathom the possibility that AnonyMint is so clever he found a paradigm" and "AnonyMint is more ideologically driven" and so on. Nobody on earth speak about TPTB_need_war like this ... except TPTB_need_war himself.

Take my word, stop this please,  it is getting weird. We respect your intellect in many ways, don't destroy your remaining own reputation like this.

OK. I am sorry to say, but I have to conclude that HONCHO is the sockpuppet of TPTB_need_war. Nobody would act like this - except TPTB_need_war. I am really sorry, because I always liked TPTB_need_war, he is a good man. It is unfortunate that he ended up like this. He must be in desperate need for money. It's sad really.

Yes, I did. And that's why I was asking what is the business model for JAMBOX. And then he disappeared and you appeared to collect money. Now I understand. It seems the JAMBOX business model hasn't changed, but there will be a new, different coin than JAMBOX via an ICO. Is that's what happening?

The power? How about the power came from His Majesty Tupou VI the King of Tonga?

What the fuck are you talking about man? Simple question: following the long months of crusade against ICOs, suddenly who is trying to collect money behalf of TPTB_need_war ... for an ICO?

Indeed ... next time do your research before talk to me and now fuck off you WAVES shill to cheerlead your WAVES nonsense for the idiots who buy into the NXT/Waves scam.

I am 18 and masturbating 4 times a day. I also fucked yesterday my neighbour, she is 82 but still pretty. I also had sex with her husband (86 and pretty too). Now, as we answered the very important question of my age and established all relevant facts about my personal life, who the fuck are you?

At least we knew for example the IOTA scammers are David and Sergey so the law enforcements know it as well. Similarly it is important to know who are you?

Now you act like CfB from the IOTA scam. If you ask that man what time is it now or in fact ask any questions such as does a bear shit in the woods or anything really which has a question mark, CfB will offer you a 50 BTC bet to deal with the question ... since he knows nobody gives a monkey about the betting offer of a scammer.

Isn't the interest of your investors to know who the fuck you are? Why you need to complicate the simple question of who you are with a fucking 10 BTC bet? The TPTB_need_war ICO starts as he finished here: fishy and messy.

These are very valid points.

Just like the post you have replied is valid as well. It is hard to understand that TPTB_need_war has been the most vocal cyber-warrior against ICOs on this forum, and then suddenly he realize, whoops, forget about it ... now really I need to make an ICO too. Welcome to the messy Operation of TPTB_need_war.

You don't know what jl777 James does directly with what so don't talk nonsense.

Anyway, it seems HONCHO is a TPTB_need_war sockpuppet account. God bless TPTB_need_war, he always navigates himself into these messy situations. Since he has been telling everyone for long months that he is not going to do an ICO, he needed to create a sockpuppet to roll an ICO out.

TPTB_need_war has been telling everyone for long months there won't be any ICO. He said the business model to distribute the coin to the users of JAMBOX without an ICO. You are talking about an ICO. Which one is the case?

Are you jl777 James the chief wanker-scammer of supernet who roll out one money party after another, the latest is the fucking WAVES scam? If yes, don't bother to reply my question.

LoL could be the case.

LoL the only rational assumption with regards to the project could have been that it will be delayed. I like TPTB_need_war god bless him, he is a good man, but he is unable to make progress. He will also tell me that he can't give away  his JAMBOX business model here, in the public ... which he gave away several times already on this forum.

What was his jump to this anonymous thing anyway? That has been his USP and he has been arguing here for months that the anonymous feature is a big NO-NO, and then he suddenly switch to the anonymous topic. I hope he will sort out his focus and priorities.

Oh dear ... again, no wonder that after 7 years endless media hype, hundreds of millions VC investment why BTC could attract less users than a mediocre porn site has.

If delusional arrogant wankers like this one support a project then a project don't need any enemies.

Sounds interesting. Could you explain at least on high level what is this plan? You have mentioned severals times you have this business model of distributing the coins to users for free of charge. What's your thought process and plans with regards to that one? It seems you expect your platform attract lots of users and then they start using the coin to pay for the music content, which is all right, but what exactly will create value for the coin? Will be the coin traded on exchange to create some value for it? The music content providers of JAMBOX who receive payment in your coin will have to dump the income and convert it to FIAT, but who is going to buy it from them?   

It seems you are certainly not the sharpest knife in the kitchen, most likely you are a delusional one as well. Therefore no wonder you don't understand the environment in which Bitcoin operates nor you understand that governments can stop Bitcoin in many ways. These are including but not limited to legislations, ecosystem, hardware and application.

The easiest from government standpoint and the most obvious is legislation. Money laundering legislations - yes, that's how the crocks of Wall Street and IMF will play the game by presenting the dick to your delusional and arrogant ass via money laundering legislations - will ban a non compliant Bitcoin, and then 99% of individuals and businesses simply won't touch the thing. That's is the compliance level with financial regulations worldwide and therefore no reason to assume BTC will be any different. All countries on earth, including fucking Vanuatu and Cayman Islands will have to subscribe to the policies of the crocks of Wall Street and IMF.

I doubt it will be necessary at all because the legislation will be more than enough to keep the money away from BTC, but governments can also enforce the control on ecosystem level by pushing a new fork to the miners. Bitcoin is fucked on ecosystem level as the greedy, servant minded Chinese miners (and in fact any miner) will comply with laws and regulations. Yes, Bitcoin will exists, albeit it will be a money laundering legislation compliant type one.

The government can and most likely will act on operation system level. Since 95% of users use proprietary OS a non compliant BTC application will be excluded from all these users' computers.

Hardware. I doubt you know anything about hardware/firmware programming. I started that well before the average 28 years old demographics of this forum was born, and here is a news for you: there are discussions already that for "law enforcement" reasons ARM TrustZone and of course Intel architecture must implement interfaces, so "security measures" can be implemented by device manufacturers. What does that means? Even Linux (which obviously won't be the subject of the OS level measures) is fucked as no PPKI signing nor any other cryptography operations will be able to avoid this gate.

I am not a native English speaker, still, if you don't understand what I am saying, then instead of me, you need to fuck off from a rational conversation. On the other hand, your arrogant and delusional attitude explains very well that after 7 years endless media hype, hundreds of millions VC investment why BTC has less users than a mediocre porn site could attract.

Idiot. Only the legal issues of a DAO are real and here to stay.

They might come up with such design, but that won't change the attitude of governments. Armstrong is correct, history indicates the elite is mad when the money is gone and there is no other source but need to collect it from the society. They will make the anonymous BTC an illegal instrument and will enforce the law on operation system or even hardware level. 95% of the users use commercial OS, and therefore it will be a piece of cake for the government to ban all anonym cryptos when the time is right.

That is the main issue with DAO. A graduate level lawyer would be able to explain to the idiots why this is an unsolvable issue with DAO. (Not that the idiots who "invest" in this nonsense would care at all as they couldn't care less about DAO - they are involved to realize the "ROI").

http://www.coindesk.com/how-to-sue-a-decentralized-autonomous-organization/

"Second, for a DAO to operate in a world in which legal relationships are formalized by contracts, and enforced by courts, I don't see how a DAO can act unless it is either a corporation or it has no corporate form and it is simply an extension of its human members."

and this is the most interesting bit

"Among other things, the members of a general partnership can end up jointly and severally liable on a personal basis for partnership obligations. One potential flaw in their structure is that they may not have assets from which to indemnify third parties.".

However the DAO operators try to twist the facts around the legal responsibility issue, the court will enforce its orders and rulings on the human operators of the network. Would Vitalik get as far as operating a DAO? I doubt he will. It is nothing else but selling a useless, fraudulent fucking cryptoasset.

Armstrong is very much spot on with regards to Bitcoin.

There is no future for the Bitcoin concept to which we all subscribed. There will be some Bitcoin, but the global elite will enforce money confiscation and traceability measures on the network. Not that tax and law enforcement authorities need to deploy their brightest agents to trace transactions on the network which by definition stores all transactions in a public blockchain. Still traceability, compliance with money laundering laws will be introduced by new legislations to send a clear message to the libertarian crowd. Governments will strike and change Bitcoin at the moment when the network start to threaten the status quo. Currently a mediocre fucking social network has far more users than Bitcoin has, Bitcoin is a non-factor in the context of global economy, and there is no reason for governments to intervene yet.
Armstrong is correct, there is nothing to do when the elite wants to retain its control over money and society. The servant minded, corrupt and greedy Chinese miners will adopt any forks and any measures of the Troika (EC, ECB, IMF).